I'm going to ask your wife, how she handles you at home, because she, she's a school teacher.
I need to take a picture. No, she's it. Yeah, but it's my camera. You've been in the,
in the 20 minutes taken on that phone. I got you've been fidgeting with your son, boy.
I got to ask your wife, how she handles it, because in the classroom, she handles it a certain
way with cell phones, something that my school teacher has never had a deal with.
I can ask her how she deals with cell phones in the classroom, and I got to do that on my guest.
Not only you, a lot of people come in and I bring my camera to take a picture, so I
post it on Facebook. You've been on your phone for 20, 25 minutes. You've been on Facebook now
for 10 minutes. A picture that is. Okay. Well, before we talk about anything to do with the city,
let's talk about emergency management, because how many years were you working with emergency
management? He was like 33, 34 years total. I started in with the state in 1988, and retired a
few years ago. Don't ask me what year I retired, because I don't remember. And you would think
that would be a milestone number, but I walked out the door and never looked back.
Now, we don't have too many weather emergencies here. We just not like they do down south.
We live in one of the safest areas in the United States when it comes to natural disasters.
Yeah, we get occasionally bad storms. But overall, we live in one of the safest places to be.
We don't have the earthquakes. We don't have the big tornadoes. When we do have tornadoes,
they tend to be smaller. That doesn't mean that we can't have one. But generally speaking,
this is not an area that gets hit with severe weather frequently. And what we saw the other night
was straight line winds. I was terrified. I was terrified when I saw that. Now, in my, it's
just bent my flagpole over, which that's a metal flagpole. And then it took a box we had on
the aluminum aluminum. It could be a woman. It happens to an aluminum can when you step on it.
Yeah, it's, yeah, but this I could see it's shaking from the wind and then it just went over.
We have a giant box on our porch. And now they don't roll off the porch. It went into the air.
And it's a big giant plastic box. And it took off into the air. And I found it up our driveway.
I don't know what got up at that end. But that's scary to see that. Then we drove through wind point
and we saw all the trees down. But I don't mean like small birch trees. I mean giant trees
just uprooted. It's got to take a lot of force to do something like that.
Well, I don't know what the wind speed was, but you had a hurricane force gust winds. I'm sure that
that evening, I was over near your house. I was at the Eagles Club. We had a fourth fast
board meeting in the basement there. You know, the sudden things started to get dark outside. I ran
up to look out the door and things were flying all over. And there was huge hail. And I said,
and the power went out. And it's like, oops, I guess we don't
ming over. It was at the tail end of our meeting, but meeting over. Now,
we have it weren't I had to save this. But on Main Street, one side is on a certain power grid.
The other side's on a different power grid. Usually hours goes out. The other side is
blinking their lights at us this time. The other side went out. So they had no power. And we did.
We have the power. I have two friends that live in one point. They live across the street from
each other. One had power. And the other one did not have power. So it's I don't know how they
how they do that. How they figure it out. But you know, those crews are busy. I don't recall seeing
in the city of Racine, the number of poles that were either snapped, bent or down completely
as I did from this storm. And I've seen quite a few severe thunderstorms and downbursts over
the years. But this woman, the the policy utility polls really took a beating.
Now, when you were the emergency emergency management, there would have been sirens if there was
a tornado. But this was not a tornado. A lot of people think it was, but it wasn't. No, it was
just and the rain was going horizontal. It wasn't even vertical rain. You had 60, 70 mile an hour
winds that were pushing it. I saw some pictures where the hail did damage to aluminum sighting.
I remember there was, I think it was Ozaki County. Years ago, there was a severe thunderstorm
with huge hail, torrential downpour and straight line winds. And it just shredded people's vinyl
sighting when those large pieces of hail started hitting that vinyl sighting at 70, 80, 90 miles
an hour. So let's talk about sirens because they're outdated antiquated. What is that?
For number of reasons, one is outdoor warning sirens are meant to be an outdoor warning device.
They are not meant to be heard in the house. Now, if you live across the street from one like you do,
you're probably going to hear it in the house, but they're not meant to be an outdoor or an indoor
warning device. They were meant to warn people outdoors. Number two, they're mechanical in nature,
so they may fail. And when they fail, and you say, I didn't hear the siren, so you don't want to
put all your eggs in one basket. I had this philosophy as an emergency manager, no single point
of failure. So you build redundancy into your warning toolbox. So I encouraged every household,
they have a no weather radio, especially at night time. Where would go off and let you know
outdoor warning sirens were only used for tornadoes. Not for severe thunderstorms and a lot
of people after this severe thunderstorm went through, said, why didn't my out, why didn't the
outdoor warning siren go off? Well, if you would have had a no weather radio, you would have
been notified of the severe thunderstorm. But guess what? We don't take severe thunderstorm
warning seriously. Oh, those are severe thunderstorms. They're no big deal. Well, we saw that we had
hurricane force winds. We saw we had ping pong ball size hail. And when you couple the hail with
those strong winds, you know, that does a lot of damage and can hurt people. Plus, we're lucky that
nobody got killed in this. There were trees that went down into houses, chimneys that
came and went down into buildings. We saw what happened over at Jane's school. I remember a few
years back when I was the emergency manager. There was a house where the chimney after a small
tornado, the chimney fell into somebody's bedroom. Luckily, nobody got killed. That was out in
Union Grove. So, and then the last thing is you keep talking about the cell phones that I'm holding
in my hand. So that your listeners can see I'm holding it up here. That's the problem with
radio. We get the only it up. These are the game changer. Yeah, but that I know what you have to say,
get the messages on the cell phone, put the sirens on the cell phone. Well, you don't have to put
anything on there because in a tornado warning, these go off. These will be more reliable than that
outdoor warning siren across the street from your house. In my opinion, I take out their warning
sirens out because they give people a false sense of security. And I can say that now because I'm
not the emergency manager, but I've just looked throughout the country how people rely on them,
but they're antiquated. They're not reliable. And there are other means of warning and cell phones
with the tornado warning that comes across here. There's no way that you're going to miss it.
And that's good. And you'll probably reach almost everybody on a cell phone. There are some people
that still don't have updated cell phones. And there are people like me at night, I put my
cell phone away now. I got to get away from the cell phone with the radio. Because if you
rely, I have you're relying on an outdoor warning siren when, all right, let's let's put you in
storm mode. I know your wife is shutting all the windows because she doesn't want the rain to
get inside the house, right? Well, we don't open him anyway, but still. Yeah. So you got your house
sealed up. You're in a deep sleep. I know how loud you've snored because I've been here when you
fell asleep at the council when we were doing political coverage. And so there's no way you're
going to hear the outdoor warning siren. So get a no weather radio. Well, I have one.
I have a weather radio. So what are you complaining about? No, I'm not complaining about me. I'm saying,
I know when a storm is coming. I mean, out of my windows, I could see the west and I could see
a plus I work here. So I know, you know, you know, ironically. So if you looked at all the damage
from the last storm, all the trees and branches went from east to west. So I went, I was going back
home north on Main Street. And your side of the block Main Street was all covered with debris.
And I had to drive into the lane on the other side of the block in order to get around those trees.
But all those trees seem to fall from east to west. So what it's saying is that storm came off the
lake. So what you're right, most of the storms around here come from the west, but you do get
storms that come off the lake. And I think this one came off the lake. Now I did see a lot of trees
broken right there on North Beach. They were, they weren't toppled with the roots coming up.
But you can see that they were split and branches coming off. I saw that on my property.
I was very lucky. We just had a few minor branches. I mean, stuff you can pick up with your hand
and throw it and chop up and break. So I was lucky because I have a lot of huge trees. They're
all pine trees on my property. And they just didn't topple. But I saw stuff going on on the high
street right near Chatham where trees just broke off into the lane into the street. And I saw
that over in the 2000 block of Geneva, all of a sudden I'm driving down Yalt Street and I'm looking
down the side streets. And there was a branch or something that fell on the wire, the utility wire.
And the pole is actually bending over. And then a couple hours later, there was a police officer
with the lights on still guarding it. And then we were laying in bed and it's like 1 a.m.
And we're hearing chainsaw. So the city crews who are out there cutting up trees and
yeah, her chainsaws. Yeah. And you don't really scare somebody when this is all going on,
the moment it stops you. Here sirens everywhere police cars and fire departments. What happened?
Where are they going? And it's I was terrified David. I was really terrified. I had never seen
this kind of weather before where I grew up. We just didn't have it. And even though I've been living
in the Midwest a long time, I've still never I on a trip once through Nebraska. We were next to
the town that got wiped out. The skies were black and we pulled into a there was nothing around
for miles. It kept the hotel we pulled in there. And I watched it from the distance. It was
terrifying. Also in Bloomington, Illinois, once tornadoes were all over the place, we pulled
into a parking lot and let them go by. But it's very scary when you see because you have no control
over it. Right. Nobody's got any control over it's not you can't call anybody say can you stop
the winds? It's just it's going to happen. And you just got to do your best to hide. And
now how your house did the mayor was on here saying he was out when he got home. There was glass
all over the place. The hail broke the window. Oh, and it was glass all over his house.
And from this big giant window, he said, and it was everywhere. Now I felt the hail hitting my
windows. And I was looking all over the place to make sure it didn't break because I want to know
immediately if there's a window broken. How the storm by you, you didn't lead over that far for me.
No, um, we actually feared pretty well. I think we had some shingles hit blew off. Yeah, I didn't
wanted to with us, but not not too bad because that's I checked everything afterwards. Um, you know,
it's it's really interesting how a lot of the damage was due. I think two trees and branches.
And so I always look at these storms as nature's way of pruning because you look at what comes down
and it's the stuff that you know, it's dead. It's been dead. Finally, you know, the winds broke
it off. What's amazing sometimes is you look at a tree that looks healthy, but then it breaks off
and it's been all rotted from the inside. I talk about, um, I do some classes on ethical leadership.
And I talk about that. How a person will look whole from the outside, but they've allowed things
inside internally to corrupt them. And it's like those trees eventually they're going to fall.
You know, you mentioned the cell phones. I whenever there's an amber alert or so, my phone
goes up very loud. I think it goes up for tornadoes too. Yeah, it's yes. It's tornadoes flooding.
There's like five or six different things that it will go off for. And when that came out,
at that point, I said, this is a game changer because
um, everybody carries their cell phones, you know, meeting and all of a sudden they all go off
at the same time and you look at your, you look at your phone and we don't have that many tornado
warnings in a year. As a matter of fact, you know, this wasn't a tornado here. We were under a tornado
watch, but this was a severe thunderstorm. And as we had a severe thunderstorm warning, people
just don't take severe thunderstorms seriously. But when they pack hurricane force winds,
torrential downpours, lightning, uh, hell, there's no way you could have driven in that, uh,
that rain that was coming down. You couldn't see in front of you. Well, when I think I don't know
if I've told this area in the air, um, we were on a Route 66 trip and we were coming back.
And this is the Bloomington Illinois story. My wife was driving. She really drives on these trips,
but I said, it's a nice day. You drive. It turned out to be not a nice day. Let me guess,
you took a nap. No, I was, uh, it just started to rain and it was high force winds. You couldn't
see the interstate. Couldn't see it. I said, there's a truck in front of just follow his lights
because you can't see anything else. You don't want to stop because they'll apply in on the back
so they can't see that wherever that truck is going, you're going and he got off on an exit
and parked at a school. So park at the school. And so we're listening to a radio station. And on
Sunday, they haven't have a live announcer on the air. And we're listening to him and he said,
you know, you could see the moving of the clouds above you. And we pulled in there. And after the storm
passed, we pulled out and there was the radio station right next to the school. We didn't know it.
It was in Bloomington, Illinois. It was terrifying here. I thought you you were to see you followed
the truck and you ended up in Otomo, Iowa. But when you can't, no, Tom, by the way,
on the home of radar, or rally, yeah, they have a great, uh, they have this little restaurant.
Remember Cupies when it was underneath the parking garage? No, I don't remember that.
I don't know. Okay. So Cupies was underneath the parking garage and the city
had to tear the parking garage down. And the original Cupies had to go. Well, we go to Otomo,
Iowa for a, what a loose meat sandwich. This place was famous for it. And it's this little place
that reminded me of Cupies, small little diner underneath the parking garage, just like the old
Cupies. And it was our 20th anniversary. And I sat down at the counter and I said, my wife and I
have our anniversary. And this is her anniversary meal today. That's when you take your wife for
an anniversary loose meat sandwich in Otomo, Iowa. Do you know how far Otomo, Iowa is from here?
That's where you took Amy. All right. Port district older David Mack is here with me today.
And we were talking about emergency management weather in the first half hour. If you want to hear
that, we'll podcast it. You'll be able to hear it. And I'll tell you when it's up.
It should be up by later today or tomorrow. And we'll tell you about that because it's an important
information you need. I love the idea of putting it on a cell phone, which has always been.
But you're right. It's probably because it drags your get your attention. And then you can
read what's going on with the size. Go off. You really can't read. I know the first Saturday of
the month, they always test them at four o'clock in the afternoon. People say, is it bad weather coming?
Is it bad weather? But it's a test. And that was a very good half hour. Enjoy. Thank you, David.
I appreciate that. By the way, I want my own pump for music. Or, you know, the song should say
David Mack and Don Rosen in the morning. Yep. So work on that performance next time I come in.
I want bumper music. That's the first thing I'll do as soon as you'll be work on that. Okay, now you
have a new committee assignment now in the council. Your fourth district told me they had different
committee assignments. And you just got a new one. Well, I or different one. I was on the
when I got elected last year. I was assigned to the Public Works and Services Committee.
Now what are they first meeting was like three hours long. What do they do, by the way?
Spend a lot of money. Okay. We probably spend more money than any of the other committees,
because we are overseeing the Public Works projects, the roads, the building repairs, those type of
things. So we're dealing with change orders. We're dealing with pay final payments. We just had
two public hearings. In last year, those public hearings, there were a lot of people that
turned out for them this year, not so many. But if you have a road that's never been paved in
concrete, and the road is failing, they will send out an order saying Don Rosen, you live on
the 2300 block of Kinsey. And your road has never been paved before and it's failing. And we're
going to charge you $120 foot, frontage foot, to repave that road. And you're going to come to
the public hearing and say, that road isn't that bad. You know, I've been driving on that road for
50 years. And it can go another 50 years. And if the majority of your neighbors agree that,
you know, the road shouldn't be redone, you know, the council's likely to say, all right, we'll give
you another two years. But some point Mr. Rosen, we got to redo your road because it's now reduced
down to gravel. And we're not going to maintain it. So we had public hearings on
roads at staff or other people had requested to be redone. And also on alleyways. And then we
took that long list. We listened to the public comments. We looked at the feedback that came back.
We looked at how bad the roads were. There's a rating system. And then we as a committee decided,
okay, this one will do. This one we won't. This one will do. This one we want. This one we
won't. This one will do. And came up with the list. So the list got approved last night at the
council meeting or council meeting with three and a half hours long. But anyway, back to. So I
got appointed to public works. I had previously in my previous 10 years in the council. I served eight
years on public safety and licensing. My parting gift was being sued in federal court. John
Gotti and I have something in common. It's a four letter word called the Rico. I beat my Rico
charge. He didn't. But that was quite the ideal to go through this federal federal lawsuit.
The Teflon Oldman. Yes, the Teflon. And then I spent two years on finance. And then
Corey Mason appointed me to public works last year. Never had served on it. And so I'm learning
something new. Well, last year, Molly Jones stopped coming to the meetings and she didn't let
us know that she was sick. And so by default, I started sharing the meetings. And then with one
meeting to go, the mayor appoints me as the chair of public works committee, one meeting to go.
And it's like, okay, I could have taken that action a little sooner, but
whatever. And then we changed the rules on the council so that the council president
appoints the committees, but that the committees elect the chair. So my committee elected me as
the chair and they elected Alderman Perez as the vice chair. And so in the past, the mayor appointed
those. Now you should have Sandy Widener on here. She got elected the chair of public safety
and licensing by a coin toss. There were four people that showed up to the meeting. The vote was
two to two. And Jeff Cole happened to be there and he had a Susan B Anthony dollar and his pocket
and pulled it out. And he flipped the coin. And she won. Heads, I win, tails, you lose. Yep,
something like that. Yep. So now the net, the the committee, you're the head of now is called
public works and services. Now you're in charge of streets, right? Okay. And you must get,
this is why I would never be in politics at all. You're very recognizable. When you go on public,
you have people come up to you and complaining. I used to, I'm not talking about me because I would
never do that. My previous stint on the council, we couldn't eat at a restaurant without the store,
the restaurant owner coming up and sitting at our table and talking our ear off for 20 minutes.
And that was fine, you know, but it's interesting when people recognize you.
Not sometimes I play coy like they're like, you look familiar. And I just shrugged my shoulders
like, I don't know, you know, I guess you want a date line. They were looking for you like Keith
Morris. I was looking for you on date line. Now, if I mentioned something to you,
it's not, I'm not going to be bothering you, I assume. And that doesn't matter who's in charge.
When Melissa Capprillian was in her, I used to tell her about it as well.
The, and this is not just in for scene. I ran into a lot of places. The manhole covers are so
recessed into the street when you hit them with your car. It's like you're going to crack a ball
joint in your wheel. All right. So the manhole cover is in the middle of the street, Don. You shouldn't
be riding down the middle of the street. Nope, nope, nope, not by the street to the, to the right
of the center lane. Okay. Not, not by the zoo. They're not in the center. You can't help it
because if you drive it, never hit it. And I live over there. If you, if I drive over it,
I'll take a mirror off one of the park cars. You can't move over that much. I've tried it.
How come I've never hit it? Because you're amazing. I'm not. But this is really recessed. I don't
know. And it was going to take a picture of it the other day, but it was raining. And I didn't
want to run into traffic with a ruler and start measuring it. It's got to be a good three,
a summit, a plus inches below the street. I want to get a picture of you jumping out of your
car measuring the manhole cover. You know what I did do? Do you know how long those,
the white dotted lines are in the street? Yes. I mean, no, but I know that you got out and
measured it. I don't think there's as long as you say they are. They are because I talked to
somebody who's actually 22 feet. No, 12 feet. They're 12 feet long. Really? Right. And I talked
to somebody who was in here. They were in here with the Racine Traffic Safety Commission.
But their job was doing that kind of stuff. And they can still have the Racine County traffic
signature commission. Yes. You know, who started that? You? No. Tom Carco's dad. Oh,
did he really? And then Tom Carco? Yeah. And then when Don Carco got off the Traffic Safety
Commission, he wrote me into being the chairman of it. And so I used to organize all that stuff.
And it's I'm glad to see that there's still. No, they're not still. They stopped. They stopped.
And I called up and I found out who's in charge who could be a Tom Nitter. Okay. And I called him.
I said, can we start it up again? And he said, yes, we will. And they started from scratch. And
they started up again with a new group of people. And the beginning of every month, I think it's
the first Wednesday or first Thursday of the month. They're in here talking about their new
poster for the month. It's not a physical poster. It's online now. But yeah. So it we got them
back. Wonderful. But it's 12 feet. If you can measure it, if you have a 12 foot shoe,
12 and shoe, just measure it. You'll see they're all 12. And this is standard. You jumped out of
your car. No, no, I live on Main Street. So I go, when I got out of my car, I just got out
there. And so there's Don Rosen measuring in the middle of the day, walking down the center
of Main Street, measuring it. People are thinking that young man had a little too many
homeless man. Crazy. Get the net. Yeah. So I measured it. And it's 12 and somebody verified
you. They're all 12 feet. You know, at some time, you see a white line with some black
data at the beginning of it to make it 12 feet. All right. So you should know this. This is your
committee. So we've jumped out and walked down the center of the jump out. I live there. So I
just walked in. We're gonna jump out of our car, measure sewer manholes. Yeah, that's
one of their weird stuff. No, because it's got to be done because it's once someone's
going to break an actual cause of traffic accident. And you're going to say, gee, I wish somebody
would have measured that. If we only had one good citizen who would have jumped into the street
with a ruler, would have measured it and got back to me. We got a text message from one of our
listeners. Let me guess your wife. I can't give that name to just tell you. It said,
tell David, I am riding now in my car. Yes, some of the manhole covers are in the middle lane.
However, if I try to avoid one of those middle lane manhole covers, I'd be riding in the bike path.
Shouldn't be texting and driving. That's not good. It's got a Bluetooth. She doesn't have to
do anything. Really? Drive and just talk and it comes out on that. Oh, wow. I know, you know,
you know, you know, you know, you never, you never did come back to a Tomoa Iowa and why I was in
on Tomoa, Iowa. What are they? So the home of radar rally, Elden, Elden, Iowa. Do you know what's
famous about Elden, Iowa? No. Have you ever seen that picture of that old farmer and his wife
holding? Oh, got the got the American got the American got the American got the American got the
houses in Elden, Iowa. And I read a story in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel about this woman
who bakes pies and she lives in the American gothic house. She rented it at the time and she had
a pie stand on Saturdays. So I said to my wife and she used to bake pies for like Barbara Streisand
and she wrote a book. So I said to my wife, let's go for anniversary. We'll drive down on Friday night,
stay in the Quad cities where my aunt lived at the time. She lived in Port Byron, Illinois across
the river from La Claire, Iowa. La Claire is where the American picker story is antique archaeology.
And then the next morning we'll get up early and we'll drive another three hours to Elden,
Iowa. So we go to Elden, Iowa. On the article, she said that the loose meat restaurant in
a Tomoa was her favorite. So I planned it so that we went to Elden and then they have a visitor
center there and they have this backdrop and they have a place to stand on the patio and they
loan you the clothes and a pitchfork and they set it up so you can get a picture in front of the
gothic house just like the painting. All right. So then we did that and then we went over to the
house, knocked down the door and usually she doesn't let people in the house. She has a pie stand
outside, but that day she was peddling the pies out of the kitchen so he stood in the living room.
So we actually got to go inside the American gothic house, got to meet her. I brought her book,
got it autographed and we sat outside on the picnic table. We bought a slice of pie and then we
bought a couple pies to go excellent pies. Where are they? How come they're not here? That was 15
years ago. Don't you bring that was 15 years ago. If you want me to bring you a pie that's 15
years old. Now go back, but there was a TV show that recreated that a very popular TV show popular
recreated what my trip to American gothic. Okay. It was at the beginning of green acres. Don't
you remember? Yes, I do. Eddie Alperton and Avigabor did. They recreated the beginning of it.
So anyway, your wife would probably cannot. You guys would probably do something like that too,
but we do we do a ton of road trips and we get all these. Yeah, you know, how else you celebrate
your 20th wedding anniversary and then that then we drove back. We brought my aunt a pie and that
night she treated us to we all went on a riverboat on one of those paddle boats on the Mississippi
River and we had a dinner cruise. So it was really neat. Well, I'm coming up to my 20th. Next year,
it's been that long already. Yeah, don't say it like that. I knew your wife before you did. I know
used to work with her at Racine County. Yes, she was she still works there now. She works at
the hospital. She also works for the county, but she worked for Caledonia police for a number of
years. I found out she married Don Rosen. It's like, wow, she must have what happened to her.
Must have been some kind of bump on the head and she woke up. We we're watching on CBS Sunday
morning that show on Sunday morning. They did a story on them on this. These two old ladies
that make hamburgers in Moonshine, Illinois. Never been to Moonshine, Illinois, but it's it's
got to put down the list. It's about a block. Anyway, they say they're the best hamburgers in America.
So we took a drive down to Moonshine, Illinois, you know, just a day trip to get down there and we
went down and there's a line going into the store. They don't it is just ground beef. They cook it
and they put it on a burger. There's no seasoning. Nothing. Loose meat. It was not loose meat,
but it's I know what you're talking about. You say loose meat. This is just a hamburger.
It looks like a quarter pounder, but it's okay. And they do it until a certain hour. I think it's
like noon or one o'clock and then they stop and it's all over. And if you're online too bad,
the curtains down, the audience is filing out. There's a place near Casey. I put it, I put it
to you shirt Moonshine, Illinois. Yeah, there's a plate. I wonder if it's the same place.
Not just outside of Casey, Illinois. There is a place that was on like good morning America or one
of those. And same thing, they serve to one o'clock and that's it. You could be online. The curtains
down, the audience has to file out. You've been to Casey, Illinois yet? Yes. One of the big things.
Yes. I've been there. Yeah. It's a fun rocking chair and everything. Yep. Yep.
Been there. So we were right years ago. I was headed down to Springfield, Missouri. And we stopped
off of routes 66 there. Forget what town it was, but there was the world's largest rocking chair.
And then these guys in Casey, Illinois built one slightly larger and then this little town,
no longer the world's largest rocking chair. So twice now I've had a picture taken in front
of the world's largest rocking chair in different stages, in different state, two different states.
They said, even David's getting smaller or the chairs are getting bigger. We do road trips.
We remember the Route 66 Association of Illinois. So we always go to their bankwits and everything.
I love road trips. We couldn't crimp in it when they had COVID because a lot of the places weren't
open. But we're back. We were just in Monroe, Wisconsin the other day. And doing everything
cheese in Monroe. I loved it. A big event to see more. I think so. See more. I think it's a hamburger
cap, but over the hamburger. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Right. Right. Right. So I love a hamburger
museum there. I haven't been there yet, but it's it's on the list to do. I love having you in.
I wish I have a good time. We didn't talk about a lot of city stuff, but I had a good time with
you. Thank you very much. Yeah. We never got to talk about the Curse of Oak Island, but I didn't
get to watch it last night. So I don't know if they found the treasure or text message. The heck is
this guy talking about? What do you want to talk about? So I put, let's talk about the season
finale of the Curse of Oak Island. David Mack is our fourth district altar for the city
of Racine does a lot of other stuff, but that's why he was in this morning.
