All right. It's time to go back in time. Carole G and forte, Jim Bessira here. And we're
talking about Elmwood Plaza. And he said, didn't you talk about that last time? Yeah, we
did, but here's part two. So where did we leave off?
There's a question you want to get. It was a month ago.
Yeah, that's right. Okay, so Elmwood Plaza. And once you give a little background for people
though, no, what Elmwood Plaza is not everybody, you know, travels around, but seen some people
live in just on Amazon and all the, you know, they don't go out and shop. I know people
to do that. They don't go to any stores. They do everything online, which is, I guess,
okay. But don't you want to touch the merchandise first?
There's fewer stores to go to those that travel. Yeah, a lot of empty stores. Yeah.
So want to tell a little history then, we'll plaza first. When did, you know, can you
give us a little history? I know it's out of the notes there. Okay. Well, first of all,
thanks. Thank you, Don, for having us again. We always enjoy sharing our memories of growing
up and recene during the 50s and 60s. Yeah, the plaza has quite a history. It opened up
in 1956. And of course, the heyday years were the balance of the 50s and 60s and 70s until
1981, when the mall opened up. Their claim, the fame was, they always would say plenty
of free parking, which was, I think, a ding to the downtown area and uptown and whatever,
because you had to have a money to pay for parking meters. But they offered free parking.
At one time, they had 30 stores and it was a very vibrant center. You could buy almost
anything there, including a couple of department stores. But we're going to get into that in
a little bit. But first, a little bit about, a little bit about us. Well, I was saying to
Jim, Don introduces us, Jim and Carol. Well, now we've been doing this about a year and
a half each month. And Don, I want you to know we are not college professors. We are
not deep into research. And I want our listeners to know, this is a hobby. And Jim and I grew
up separately north side, south side, baby boomers, though, and born and recene. And so out
of this at a preservation recene meeting 10, 15 years ago, we realized among other people,
like if you look at retro recene, there's so many people that do love the nostalgia of
the 50s and 60s. But anyway, Jim and I got together to make some presentations and do
some writing. And what we want to emphasize is this is our hobby. And we're trying to
stick to the truth. But a lot of it is our own anecdotes or what friends tell us. But
we're, anyway, we're trying our best to be truthful. But we are not college professors.
We're talking about it this clamor. That's what I'm doing. Right. And if we don't know
something, we just make it up. Right? At least you're honest about it. But there are people
that make stuff up and do anything and claim it to the truth. No one is written in that I know
of. But anyway, that was on my mind. So now, Jim, tell us a little bit more about the promotions.
Alma Plaza did so much to be known. So tell us about, we use the word promotions. They were,
they were best and furious. Right. Yeah. Before I get into that, let's talk a little bit about
the lower level. A lot of people don't realize that there was a lower level really at the Plaza.
Right. Now, you could walk from goldblats to the bowling lanes if you wanted to. If it was
raining out or whatever, you would just walk in the lower level. Was it like a secret tunnel?
Well, it wasn't a tunnel. It was just a wide open area. And there were a few stores down there.
There was a jewelry store there, a shoe repair shop, a record store at one time. A lot of service
type businesses, I think, were there. And I think that was meant for future development. But that
really never, never materialized. And it could have been scary if you're walking alone. It's
this vast, empty area. You could also walk from pennies to goldblats to a your major department
stores there. But yes, the promotions, they had a lot of very interesting promotions. Don,
you might know this person here, a radio disc jockey was there at one time. Dick Biondi from WL.
Oh, yeah. It was a big guy. It wasn't big. Yeah. Big DJ in Chicago. Yeah. I think he passed away
already, but he was very, very popular. Also, many of the old Milwaukee Braves players were there
signing autographs. And I had autographs from Warren Spahn and Eddie Matthews and a few others.
Still have them? No, unfortunately. I don't know where they are. Maybe my mom gave them away.
Or whatever. Yeah. But I could have had, you know, maybe Lou Berdead or Del Crandal or Johnny Logan,
maybe even Henry Aaron. I don't know. But yeah, I wish I had them now. So would they come at
different times and you would go over to the place of them? Yeah, you had a wait in line.
And then you waited this seemed like forever, but it was well worth the wait. So over a few years,
you got all those autographs. Yeah. Those mothers cleaning house.
Little Jimmy is back at him with plaza. Little Jimmy is here for his autograph. He's a real
pest. He's been there every time we can't get rid of him. That's how it was.
Well, another promotion downtown, I think, too, but a big event in summer sidewalk sale days.
Oh, yeah. I remember sidewalk sales. Yeah. And I could have, Jim and I have just discovered,
Jim has a whole collection of newspapers. We've seen journal times, especially from the 60s.
And the ads that Alan would plaza put in full page ads. And what is so surprising is you might
say, well, was the newspaper thicker at the time? It was not only thicker. The pages were huge.
Nothing like the size today. So when they had sidewalk sale ads, I mean, that covered a
whole bunch of print. So it would be a hot summer day. And the moms would take the kids in the
station wagon and probably go for ice cream, velvet freeze or something. Absolutely.
We had a shopping center near me. It's much like Elmwood plaza. So I don't think it was a maybe
a tad bigger if anything, but it was much like Elmwood plaza. It was called the Bar Harbour Shopping
Center. And they had a, they put out their own little newspaper and they put it in the mail
every month. The Bar Harbour Shopper and all the stores had ads in it. And it's funny. I remember
this. They had their 6666 sale. I still remember the ad. It was a little Bar Harbour Shopper. It was June
6, 1966. And it was sidewalk sale. Yeah. And it was the 6666 sale. How do I keep with all the
stuff cranked into my head from 1966? It's still jammed in there. And I remember the front cover
of that Bar Harbour Shopper newspaper. And every June 6, I think about it. I said to my brother,
6666 sale. And your mother would go too. Everybody would go. It was the 6666 sale. Wow.
Along with the sidewalk days that Carol talked about, the kids could enjoy stage coach rides,
complete with horses. They would take you around the plaza. And the kids of course would love it.
But I think their most famous promotion was an actual helicopter would actually drop ping pong balls
for some special promotion. And people would scatter and get those balls because some of them were
good for cash and for gifts at stores at the plaza. And everybody was just waiting underneath that
helicopter for a chance of getting those ping pong balls. Did you get some? I did, but there were
nothing. Is that like the WKRP and Cincinnati promotion where they dropped turkeys from planes?
I know. I know. And the general manager, the people were getting these turkeys for things
giving hitting them on the head. They were running for their lives. And the general manager,
Art Carlson said, as God as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.
Well, we were much more safety conscious ping balls. Yeah, I think you survived.
Right. Yeah. Well, Santa Claus, he was various places downtown,
zones for one, but he was also at Elma Plaza and a trailer every year in front of Goldblats
and complete with Christmas music being piped outside. Christmas at Goldblast was Santa Claus.
It's a big time. What else Jim? Well, you know, there was other promotions there too.
They had carnival rides. Every spring, a carnival would come to town and it would set up on a
west end about where the Walgreens is located right now. It was just something to do for the teens.
Everybody went there at my age. A lot of games and rides and things like that.
Another thing they had there, and this involves my wife too, they had a Miss Elma Plaza contest.
Actually, it was a sweet 16 contest and that was held in 1972 for the Plaza's 16th anniversary.
And my wife Lynn was representing Plaza Shoes. Oh, look at that. Yeah. And most stores sponsored a
16 year old girl in the contest. And this was actually a three day event. And the winner was
determined by the number of votes or ballots. So if you had a lot of friends or relatives,
you stuffed the ballot box and made me, you know, she would win. And the drawing was held
on that Saturday, the last of the three days for the event. And my wife actually finished
in second place or the first runner up. And she received a gift certificate for her sponsor store,
which was Plaza Shoes, as well as another gift certificate to any store at the Plaza.
This was really something to brag about back then. Actually, the winner was actually going to be
on the 4th of July float. So that was something to really hope that you would win.
But that was really an eventful day. So you married a beauty queen. I did a beauty queen.
Look at you. She is. Yeah. And is that when you decided to marry her right then in there?
Well, I think she was 16. But yeah, when I saw her pictures, yeah, that did it.
I also wanted to ask you about the carnival rides. Did you have a favorite?
I think the tilt the world. Yeah, something very easy. That's the only one that I ever got sick
on the tilt the world. Really? Yeah. The spinning. It was very, it was very, it was not for me either.
Right. Yeah. I know. That one bothered me. It's not for me.
The carnival rides, you know, a few hours before you're on them, they were laying in pieces on a truck.
And now some guy who just got paroled from prison is putting them together.
Do you remember some of the operators? Do you want to trust this guy here?
Yeah. I don't like the fact that it was in pieces on a truck an hour before.
Now here I am, risking my life on it. Yeah, those promotions, risky, risky.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, we got, we're going to go through now today a number of these stores.
There were 17 stores that opened Elma Plaza. And we found out from your newspapers in the 60s,
there were 30 stores probably in the heyday. So, you know, women, girls, shopping, mothers, daughters,
very, very big duo. Now, the stores that began, what, at the part of the 17,
at the famous name of Vegas, Vegas brothers, they were downtown. And here they came to Elma Plaza.
But there was Jane Lee and three sisters. But then in time,
Lepp and company, very high end, came in from Kenosha, new mode, Hozary, because you did not have
bare legs. Everyone wore stockings. My favorite store. Oh, that's dangerous. And the rich
hat shop, because we dressed up. Plus, we had goldblets and pennies for women's clothing.
So, we all know how we did dress up. Now, in high school in the 60s, we wore skirts,
knee socks. We did not wear warm-up pants or anything like that. Our teachers, suits,
high heels, at church. Oh, my goodness. I mean, if you see some black and white photos of
the congregation sitting there, women all in hats, men with suits, and even at home,
our mother's wore house dresses, and maybe even aprons to cover the house dresses.
So, we were shopping for very dressy clothes, beautiful clothes, really.
Some of our teen fashions in the 60s. What were we looking for? Moe hair sweaters, pleated skirts,
knee socks, the Liz Taylor blouse, which was filled with ruffles.
Then, though, you know, that pleated skirt, even I was part of this. We began to want shorter skirts.
And so, it was common for us to leave home in the morning. And outside the door,
we would do what we called, we would roll up the skirt. We doubled over the waistband,
and then when we got home, we undoubled the waistband. But the mini skirt came in,
and then capris in kool-ots. Another one is almost all of us wore. Can you imagine head scarves?
Walking to Washington, Jr. High, if my coat didn't have a hood, we were wearing head scarves.
And Pat Nielsen, my friend, tells me about reminding me about new mode hosiery.
There, there would be hundreds of very thin boxes, and the clerk would take one out,
very carefully, open up the tissue paper, and then Pat reminds me, very delicately,
this clerk would put her hand into the stocking, so that over her fist, you could see how sheer it
was, or the shade that it was. It took a lot to be a clerk at new mode hosiery.
And the prices, we had fun looking at these old newspapers. Now, the word acrylic,
that was a new fabric. There were acrylic sweaters in the journal times, four dollars.
A washable pleated skirt, five dollars. A mohair sweater, seven dollars. A head scarf,
just two of them for one dollar. So, but a lot of these prices, we gals, especially as teenagers,
we were babysitting to actually afford these items. The interesting thing though, two about clerks,
wherever we were, Vigus, three sisters, everything we tried on looked just great on us.
It was until you got home. Yeah, and you paid good money for that item. What color was that?
No, we looked great in the start. Yeah, when they used to get a suit or something,
look great in that 360 mirror they have there. Yeah, I get home and say, is this the same one I picked
out? Yeah, that's true. No, I'm married and look the same. They were swimming years, weren't they?
Well, on Seinfeld, the, what's your name? Elaine gets home and the dress looks terrible on her
to go, you have skinny mirrors here. I know you do. Yeah, we were suspicious. The skinny mirrors.
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and let's have the weather now in sports. Carol G and Forty is here. I gave you first
filling now. Jim Masira is here too. We're talking about Elwood Plaza in Racine on Durand Avenue.
It's still there, still thriving. And we're doing the history of it. And this is part two
the last time last month we did part one, part two right now. And we left off with men's clothing,
right? We left off with men's clothing because I'm not going to cover that, Jim. No, I know. That's
your, that's your area to cover. So go for it. And I wasn't about to cover women's clothing either.
Guys were a lot more, I think, easier to shop for whatever because all we wanted was just what,
maybe shirts and pants and maybe an occasional suit once in a while. But we did have a number
of men's stores at the Plaza. Herbert's men's shop was there. Richmond Brothers was very popular.
Bell's men's shop, the leader's store, of course, and also pennies and, and goldblats.
Now, some of the styles for the guys back then, of course, we all wore suits for special events.
We had skinny ties, peg pants. Who remembers peg pants? I never heard of it. You never heard of it?
Where you can barely get them on because they were just so tight. We had fashion over here done.
Yeah, right. Yeah. Oh, thank you. You were on the East Coast. You know, what do you guys know about
that? Brooks Brothers, nothing. When peg pants, I got a lot of demerits at St. Catherine's High School
for wearing peg pants. You couldn't wear that in high school? Well, you could wear pants,
obviously, but you couldn't wear them that tight where you around your legs were, you know,
it was considered obscene, I guess. I don't know. You know where I got in trouble? In middle school,
wide belts were in them in the, like 1967, the white belts. Yeah. And these, the history
teacher, he was a nice guy. I haven't a love his class, but he looked at my belt. He said,
good out of the principal. You can't wear that belt here. It was a stylist. That was the fashion.
He said, those are garrison belts. I didn't didn't know what that was. He said,
can't wear it. So I went down to the principal and he had to call my mother in to bring a new belt,
which didn't fit the pants because the, the loops were big and it looked weird.
And eventually they caved in and let you, yeah, schools are the first to say no, no, no,
until it became so fashionable. They got to say yes after a while. So I put the belt back on,
but he said, I mean, out of the principal's office, it was the fashion. I should have got you as
my attorney. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I remember the
Madras shirts. Yeah, shirts. I love them. Yeah, I still have them back in the mid 60s.
You can wash them and they would change color. They would bleed together or something.
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Some guys wore some new fashion thing called Nehru jackets.
My brother wore Nehru jackets. No kidding. They, they look like,
Nehru, they look like Nehru from India. And they, they were, that was like, you were almost
like a priest wearing the jacket. They were right different colors. Yeah. My brother had,
but if you look at the old rock groups, like the strawberry alarm clock in sense peppermint,
they were wearing Nehru jackets in the group. No, they were wearing all different pastel colors.
They weren't pastel. They were different colors. They were like psychedelic. Yeah. Oh, they were.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So those were allowed at high school for you. Or is this
no, of course, no, no. You wouldn't do that. I'd be kicked out. A little Jimmy was expelled for
wearing one button down collars. I remember them. But like Carol said, all the clerks would always
say, Oh, that looks great on you, sir. Everything looked good on you. And the salesmen were very
attentive. They were all dressed in their suits, of course. And everyone I remember had a tape
measure draped around their neck. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But now we have to say that you were one of those
salesmen. I was for a while at Penny's downtown. Yes. Right. And my husband was at Penny's
Alma Plaza for one one Christmas season. Yeah. But I never asked him if he was coached to tell everybody
how good they are. Oh, yeah. We had to do that. Did they tell you that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. He
is always compliment the person. You know how great he looks. Well, there's a nice way to say it
compliment the person. And you could also buy children's clothes there. It was a store for that
Carol, right? Tots and teens, that was very special, I would say. This is a perfect store for
holiday dresses every day too. But it was definitely a notch above, even though we had Penny's
and Goldblets too. Again, like we've just had Easter. Well, Tots and teens would be a place for
a little girl with white pat and leather shoes, a little purse, a hat with maybe daisies on it.
We called white socks with the shoes anklets. So Tots and teens, yes, was a cut above.
But then also we have to say that is where I got a poodle skirt. No, the poodle skirt is worth
some discussion here. I actually did some research on the poodle skirt, would you believe?
And there is a person credited with creating the poodle skirt. I would have never guessed it.
Have you ever heard of Julie Lynn Charlotte? No. 1947. The first poodle skirt made out of felt.
She had docks on hers. So can you imagine? I don't know if she's had royalties or whatever you
call it ever since. She'd be a millionaire billionaire by now. Her name wasn't last,
her last name wasn't poodle by any chance. So anyway, Tots and teens got my poodle skirt there.
Jim, how about shoes? We were always looking for shoes. Oh, yeah, we had a number of stores
that sold shoes at the Plaza. Kinney shoes, I think, was very popular. Plaza shoes,
Richmond shoe store. Both had, of course, men's, women's and children's shoes. For guys,
I remember, some of the guys wore to penny loafers. Kordavans, wingtips or oxfords, if you prefer,
we usually wore them for proms or special events. But sneakers, I remember that was very popular,
who remembers P.F. Flyers. P.F. Flyers. Yeah, yeah. Keds. Keds, that was another one. Keds, right. And of
course, Pat Boone always wore his white box. That's right. So a lot of teenagers would want to imitate
him. And of course, they would buy white bucks. Same thing when the song Blue Swade Shoes came out
by Elvis or before that Karl Perkins, everybody wanted Blue Swade Shoes. But these shoes salesman,
I remember, they were what we consider career salesmen. They were all dressed up in their suits.
And of course, they would measure your feet by using that Braddock device. It would measure
the length and the width. It was that metal thing you put your foot in. And it would, by moving
different things, they could, they could see here. I don't have them anymore. I don't know. I think
they. Oh, they do. You don't really have many shoe salesman anymore. You got the box on the
shelf. Amazing. We can put ourselves. That's right. X-ray machines. We had to put our foot in this X-ray
machine. And I don't know how we're still. There's a lawsuit waiting to happen. They're totally banned
today, of course. But we're still here, Carol, you know. Yeah, wonder we're still alive.
So what were some of the women's styles? Oh, shoes are all with such a fashion statement.
I had white bucks. I'm surprised that I actually did. I didn't have any blue Swade Shoes. But
patent leather's with the Mary Jane strap, saddle shoes forever. Now we have a cute story about
penny loafers. Jim and I met Marsha Connott. And she was talking to us in one of our programs about
the outdoor. How she was at the outdoor with a date that she did not want to stay with. So she
had was wearing penny loafers. But I was reading about penny loafers again in my research.
It started with the penny because it caused a penny to make a phone call. Now Marsha's story,
she tells she went to the snack bar. She got out her dime from her penny loafers.
Called her father to come and get her. So she was saved by her bed was this date.
She was saved by her penny slash guy. What was it? Jack the Ripper. Look at her. We're going to take
a quick break. Jim and Carol are here with talking about Mwood Plaza part two. A little bit of
history for you today. Talking to Jim and Carol. And we're talking about Mwood Plaza part two.
And I just found inside information that we might have a part three. There's just too much.
Because there were 30 stores down. What can you say? This was very, very exciting to have a
place like this. We left off at your blue suede shoes and your saddle shoes and the white box.
That's right. So now believe it or not, I was again, my research, Birkenstocks.
They came in in 1964. I never had a pair at that time at all. But that began. But what was
the event in 1966 about footwear? Nancy Sinatra. These moops are made for walking and they're going
to walk all over again. Yeah. And so that went to boots, especially we call them
Google boots brand new fashion. My Google boots store real quick. My brother used to play with a
lot of groups of the 1960s Shangri-La's leader of the pack. That was a big hit. And my mother was
there in the dressing room. And one of the twins. There was a young woman, a blonde woman who was
the lead up front at her. The two twins were in the back. And one of them, their white
Google boots were hurting them because it was too small. And my mother said, well, I'm wearing
Google boots. You want to try them? She said, OK, I'll give you a bet right after the show. I'll
give them back to you. You know, I gave them back. So the Google boots by mother head or from the
Shangri-La's. Wow. And are they on your mantle right now? They are throwing out when she moves.
She threw that out along with my high school diploma and my beetle ticket stubs. Those mothers
cleaning out. She said, if it was important to you, you would have taken them with you. I
remember that phrase. Well, along with our clothes and our shoes, we had our hair and women had
our makeup to be shopping for at Elma. And especially as teens, but but moms too. Now, we had at
the Elma Plaza, one particular hair salon called Miss Marges. But we had goldblets and pennies.
And we talked about last week that goldblets. It was the hair salon that started the big,
big fire. Yep. And that was 1981. Wasn't it the big fire from the hair salon?
Is that where it started the hair salon? Yes. Yes. Right. Yes. Yes. I've seen pictures of it.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Those curling irons. Was it a curling iron? No. Do we have curling irons in?
I don't know. I better. I didn't do that research. When was the curling iron started to be used?
I do. I've asked to me. Are you? I have curly hair, but I don't go with a curling iron.
Oh, but anyway, permanence. Oh my goodness. We had permanence. I always had very much trouble
with permanence at hair salons because for some reason, I'm sure people want to know this.
My hair is very coarse and it took that solution like you wouldn't believe it. And I would come out
of there very curly when pretty soon we all wanted straight hair, but I had a lot of trouble.
Don't tell me about curly hair, okay? Yeah. I wondered if you would chime in there, but we also
had so much teasing of hair. We had these very elaborate hairstyles. Curlers were needed and the
hairspray and the teasing. So we had these hairstyles that had to be worked on. So so diligently,
we had the French twist. The flip was maybe the most important. If you looked at my high school
your book, I bet almost half of the gals, they were, they had the flip. That took a lot of rollers
and a lot of hairspray. We had the beehive, we had the bubble, but we also wanted to do things on
our own. And that was the Red Cross drug store at Elmerd. There, you could buy your own Tony and
Lilt home permanent. Tony home permanent. I remember the ads for those. Yeah. So I looked them up.
I looked them up and all the the comments seemed to point to and I didn't remember this, but I guess
it was made out of pure ammonia because they talked about the smell. And so we weren't even wearing
masks in those days. Can you imagine in the hair salons and even with the toes? I remember them
because when I used to go there with my mother, you know, when I was a little tight, she said,
it's wrecked me to the beauty parlor with her. Yeah. And the stench in that case, from the
permanent. Yeah, it's right. Can you imagine a fumes and everything that we endured? Oh,
boy. Well, and I think you said your sister was all in mom. They were doing a little home
rooms. Oh, yeah, all the time. I remember that smell horrible. That stench. All this in the name
of the beauty, yeah, a tempted beauty bottom of the barrel stench. Oh, no, how about you guys?
Yeah. Well, the plaza did have a barber shop on a west end. They had actually five barbers
there. And these were actually career barbers. I remember paying a dollar and a quarter back then
back into 60s, fucking a quarter for a haircut. And us kids, we never gave any tips or anything.
So it was simply a dollar a quarter. Now, some of the styles back then, I think everybody had
either a crew cut or a butcher. I don't know what the difference is between a couple cut and a
butcher. Okay, the butcher used that stick, the wax stick. Oh, okay, put your hair up at the front.
Yeah, at the front. Yeah, the crew cut was just a short haircut. Okay, like an army cutter
something, I suppose. I'm glad you know your hair style is done. My brother had the butcher. I
didn't know that stick that made the hair go up the front. Yeah, the regular haircuts, of course.
And some guys even had what they called a greaser look. He just load your hair with all kind
of tonics and everything. But what happened back in 1964 or 65? The Beatles, they changed everything.
Now, my brother, my brother saw the Beatles on the Ed Sullivan show. The first time they were on,
she was screaming those animals. Look at their hair, those animals. They're filthy. Look at
their hair. It was pretty short. And what's short back then? Yeah, animals. Look at their
filthy. Yeah, she did it with like a Polish accent. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that changed everything.
Oh, the shock of it all. Yeah. Well, anyway, um, skincare too. Now, Almond Plaza had its very
own skincare shop called Vivian Woodard. She probably came from New York City, the chain.
And then we learned this phrase in the 50s and 60s, skincare. And skincare probably done
properly had you bankrupt because there were probably five to six different parts to your skin
care that everybody needed. But if you didn't go to Vivian Woodard at the Plaza, you went to the
Red Cross Rook start. And there you could get Max Factor, Hazel Bishop. Oh, yeah, Hazel Bishop.
Hazel Bishop. I did a little research on Hazel Bishop. She was famous for her red lipstick.
And that it was no smear and long lasting. Then there were perfumes, especially in the holidays.
We talked a couple of times back here, but done. There was a real prince matchability.
Windsong. There was a real, real man prince. We did at the Red Cross RPEG,
Cody evening in Paris. But the guys, Jim, what were you getting at the Red Cross?
Well, at the Red Cross, we would get primarily hair tonics and after shave lotion. I remember
some of the hair tonics were Vitalis. Yeah, Vitalis. Yeah, Vaseline.
Brill cream. A little dab will do you. There you go. Okay, Wild Root was another one. And
somebody after shave lotion is our remember were Aqua Velvet. Brute was very popular. Yeah,
high karate. Remember the TV commercial with that guy? Remember the high karate TV commercial?
Oh, yes. Yeah, he would go like this. He'd do the once you put the high karate on,
he was able to do karate. It's a funny commercial. Yeah, JD's was another one.
JD's English leather. I remember English leather. And I still have some I bought in 1963.
Okay, that ought to smell good. Yeah. I put it on the smoring. Can you smell it, Carol?
No, no. You think you got that order eater thing on it? That ought to corrode the flesh off
your face. It still works, apparently. No, Jim, I just am thinking you did not mention old spice.
And anytime I hear of old spice, I had a uncle when he would come for uncle and aunt.
He had so much old spice on that it would really just gag.
Sickening the cable. Yeah. Oh, I still think old spice with my
I thought when you get somebody in your car, you pick them up and they're wearing so much
cologne. Yeah, yeah, your car because it's a small space. Yeah, right? And then you want to
open the windows, but you don't want to open them and, you know, insult them. So you just say,
oh, it's really hot. Yeah. Let me just like in your gagging, you can't breathe. Yeah,
you're talking blue. Yeah, it's like they marinate it. No, also the real cream. Well,
that wasn't too in. That was just a shaving thing. No, that was hair. Yeah, that was hair.
It was like a wet cream because that had all those the signs on the highways. No, you're
thinking that's that's that's the Burma shape. Burma shape. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're
got there. You're all confused. That's too much research on the cream. They were the cartoon
characters, brule cream, a little dabble. Yeah, brule cream. Yeah, I remember that stuff.
Yeah, I never used anything. Am I here my entire life? I have never put anything on it.
Does your brother have curly hair as well? No, no, no, very straight hair. Oh, yeah, because he had
the crew cut. Well, yeah, the the butcher. The butcher. Yeah, yeah, he had straight. He has
got straight here. I'm the only one who got curly hair. So did your mother or dad have curly?
My mother did. Okay. My dad had wavy hair, but my mom had curly hair. All right, enough of my family
genealogy. We need to know these important things. Okay, so next time we have more to do with them
we'll have three. All right, three is coming up. Carol G and 14 Jim Maseer. I can't wait to you guys
go back to the golden rondale. Well, we are going to go back to the living faith church in August.
Okay. And that's open. That holds about 300 people. That's good. That's good. That'll do. Yeah,
and we're adding. Yeah, but we're adding going to the beach north beach segment. All right,
the beach party. Oh, beach party segment. Yeah, Frankie and that stuff going on.
All right, thank you guys for coming in. Do you really appreciate it? Good luck with your
Jim's got an open house.
