A Talk with the Mayor

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A Talk with the Mayor

The Don Rosen Show · Wed Mar 19, 2025

It is 708, his honor, the mayor

for seeing Corey Mason is with us.

And thanks for joining us this morning.

Want to pull that closer?

Yeah, good one here.

Every word you want to say this morning.

Thank you for joining us.

I know you're a busy guy and you got a

schlep in here when I ask and it was very nice.

I'm glad to do it.

Happy to do it.

Yes.

Okay.

So where are we staying in the city?

We're seeing what are the good things

we're seeing.

We're seeing what are the good things

we're seeing.

We're seeing what are the good things

going on today.

What are we working on?

Let's get all that out of the way

before we get to my list here.

Sure.

Before I forget what I wrote, sure.

No, absolutely.

Yeah.

So what's going on that's good

about the city ever seen right now?

Yeah.

So I mean, we have a couple of

developments coming up that are pretty

exciting.

So it'll come up at the next council

meeting hopefully if we get a

quorum to meet.

But we've got an expansion of the

hotel in the downtown hotel

Vernon.

They want to put in a spa and then

they've bought some land on the river

and what is it doing?

It's doing well.

It's doing well.

It's doing well.

Yeah.

It always takes a little bit of time

for them to ramp up.

I mean, the new is going to take a

couple of years to get the,

you know, enough people leasing out

ahead of time and booking

weddings and stuff.

But they've been, they've been

pleased with it.

And if people haven't been to the

rooftop bar to check out the view

of the downtown.

I mean, the weather's nicer.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's, it's, it's open year round.

They have a nice like wall of glass

doors that open and close.

You can still enjoy it in the

winter months, but it's really

nice.

Somebody asked me if I stayed there

yet.

And I said, no, I live six blocks

away from it.

No, I haven't stayed there yet.

But yes, I do want to have dinner

today.

It's, I mean, it's a great view.

You can, it's just, you know, you

can look over one shoulder and see

the wind point lighthouse.

Look over the other shoulder and

see the SCJ research tower.

It's a great view of the lake in

the river.

So it's really added a lot toward

downtown.

They're doing well and want to

expand.

So we're excited about that.

The breakwater over on lake,

which is our newest market rate

housing development down south

town, which opened.

You're just at the end of last

October is already half full.

So we're excited to see the

occupancy going on there.

So that occupancy is half full.

How many rooms are in there?

How many apartments

rather?

It's over 200.

I don't know.

I would, I would be guessing

if I told you the exact number.

But it's, it's over 200,

220, someone around there.

I mean, we're building it.

You were in here.

And I said, I got two levels.

Are they going to put a third?

They put a third.

Are they going to put a fourth?

They put a fourth.

Every time you came in,

where you were adding a level.

It's going up and up.

So yeah.

And that's also got some

spectacular views of the harbor.

And they've got a great

community room there.

And they managed to build it in such

a way where almost all the rooms

have a lake view might be out of

the side of the building.

Instead of,

they've been,

not surprisingly, you know,

it seems as though the

the apartments with the lake views

filled up first.

You ever get complaints when

you build something that

close to the lake,

where some other people say,

you just block my view.

You know,

there's some people who would,

there's always the risk of when

you do some development.

Somebody will say,

boy, rather, you didn't.

Right.

But we are a landlock

community.

There is a real housing shortage

that exists here in the city

and regionally.

And so, you know,

moving forward,

it means that buildings will

probably be more dense and taller

than they were before.

But it was, you know,

long ago, a place where they

stood out.

But it was, you know,

a place where,

you know,

a place where,

a place where,

you know,

a place where,

you know,

a place where they

stood, you know,

coal piles when they

would come in off of the

lake.

So, you know, the city

spent a good bit of time

before even I came in as

mayor cleaning the site out

and getting it ready

for redevelopment.

So, are we energies

building there?

It was.

Yeah.

So, first,

and so, we energies sold the

building of the city.

Oh, gosh, must be 12,

15 years ago now.

And, you know,

Eric Havdy was the developer

on it and stuck with it and

was, you know, glad to have

him down here to cut the

ribbon on it.

And it was great.

So, we talked about

blocking views.

Yeah.

Rod Lancer, he was the

comptroller for the city

of Milwaukee.

He also started

summer fest.

He was the first

director of summer fest.

He took my parents

and I had a tour.

He was putting together

tours of Milwaukee and

it brought us to the

skinny little house.

It was called the

Spite House.

And what happened was he

didn't get along with his

neighbor.

So, he built a home.

He bought a little plot

of land built of building

a little tiny building

just to block his view.

And it's still there and

it's for a tour as the

Spite House because he

built it for Spite.

Yeah.

Yeah.

This is not the Spite

apartment building.

No, it's not.

And I was saying, you

know, what's lining up

behind it is a parking lot.

And, you know, and what's

nice that I really

appreciate what they did is

they also created some of

the land next to it to create

sort of some green space to

go through.

So, it really helps connect

Main Street.

If you go down, you know,

Sixth Street there to,

or not Sixth Street.

Sorry.

Third Street there to connect

with, to better connect with

the, the Marina and the

the waterfront there.

So they, they have created

an easement for some public

space to improve access

that didn't exist there at

all.

So I think it's, it's a good

improvement.

But anytime you do some

development, people will say,

gee, I remember when this used

to be Farmfield.

See, I remember when there

was nothing here.

And, you know, I, I get that

missing.

I remember when the giant

dinosaurs were rolling there.

It's a, right.

Do you, I asked people this

government and elsewhere?

But I asked, we have one of

the candidates in here for the

fifth district, Jen Strogens

and the other day asked them,

do you know how long those

white lines are in the road

when you're traveling in the

fighter lines, the dotted white

lines?

Do you know how long they are

each one?

Oh, I know, I know.

Take a guess.

What would you think?

How would you feed?

Five feet.

See, I would have thought

two or three feet.

And I measured it.

It's 12 and a half feet.

And we had somebody in here

from the,

from the building department

of the road to construction.

And you see, they're all

built at 12 and a half

feet.

It does not look like

12 and a half feet.

It doesn't.

So I waited till main street

was empty, no cars.

And I went out there and I

measured it.

It was 12 and a half feet.

I was shocked.

Wow.

I thought it was like two or

three feet.

Everybody does.

Yeah.

And then you see this.

Okay.

So that's what's good with the

city we're seeing.

We're doing fine.

Yeah.

Money, okay.

We're doing okay.

We're not broke or anything.

There's a lot of money that

belongs to companies.

They're not not going to be

sold down with the federal

government right now and I

will just say is they're

talking about freezing

Is that I that's what's

going to ask.

Is this affecting you at

all of the city?

but there's just,

I think everybody is waiting.

I mean, they really talk about

doing the Medicaid cuts

that they're talking about.

That'll have real impacts to

our public health department

if they're really talking about

limiting federal funds.

Even people don't,

I mean, just take a

transit department.

For example, that's 80%

federally funded.

I mean, the estimates are

somewhere between 30 and 35%

of the city's budget is

federally funded, either

directly from the federal

government or through the

state that hands out federal

funds.

So that makes it a real

challenge on how to proceed.

So, you know, we're certainly

looking closely at

Senator Baldwin will be here

tomorrow, actually, to talk

about her concerns about

potential cuts to Medicaid.

So that's real.

But for the 2025 budget that

passed last fall, we are fully

funded.

We've got things in place.

The community center

health clinic has broken

ground and, you know,

it's beginning to be built.

So we are moving forward on

our priorities and we'll

continue to do so.

But, you know, there's

certainly a lot of people

happening in Washington

right now where cities

across the country are

really watching for, like,

what does this mean moving

forward?

That's scary.

It is.

It is.

And I feel bad for people

that are dependent on

programs.

Yeah.

That they have no control

over now.

That's right.

And, you know,

you put these programs

and affect people

depend on them.

They set their lives

and order based on these

programs.

Yeah.

And then you snatch them

away.

Yeah.

And not everybody's that

savvy where they know how

to get around.

They're stuck.

Yeah.

And I think we have a lot of

unfeeling people in Washington

who just don't care about

people's feelings.

I think if you're removed

enough from needing those

services, you might just

think, oh, there must be

a lot of ways.

Yeah, I've got a couple

of million in the bank.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Anybody, everybody should

take their millions

and go by their own

insurance.

Well, the idea that we're

going to have billionaires

decide that the way we're going

to pay for a big tax break

for more millionaires

and billionaires

is by cutting age

and from Medicaid

or Medicare

or Social Security

or some of the other programs

that people rely on.

I just,

I think people voted last fall

because they were upset

about inflation

and the high cost

of groceries and wanted

something fix.

I don't think people

were signing up

for having billionaires

take away their benefits

to pay for more tax breaks

for really rich people.

I don't think people

are going to have

eggs decided.

Oh, my.

More than you think.

I mean, I think people

were really frustrated.

They put so much stock

in the price of eggs.

Did you see what I

paid for a dozen eggs?

I want them out.

I will also say this

about government.

Because, I mean,

you know, the city deals

with the federal government

all the time.

And, you know, I'm not

somebody to say that

the way everything works

in government is perfect.

There is more bureaucracy

than you like there to be

sometimes.

There's more, you know,

hoops to jump through

in me as somebody who

partners with the state

and all the time.

We bring resources here.

There's a lot of work

that goes into that.

And you often think,

well, there's got to be

an easier way to do this.

I mean, you know, we'll use

one out of five federal

dollars from the housing

and urban development just

to comply with all the rules.

Right?

And much rather put that money

into home repairs

and some other programs.

I've been, you know,

filling out pipe paperwork

for a bureaucrat in Chicago

or Washington DC.

So I think we should acknowledge

the piece of it that's true

is could government work

better?

Could it be more efficient?

Yes.

But that doesn't mean you take

away people's health care

benefits or their social

security or the things that

people rely on to be healthy

and have some dignity

in their old age.

They have no money to deal

with. That's right.

That's right, you know,

I'm very fortunate I can deal

with it.

A lot of people can't deal

with it, yeah.

W. J. N.

Whoa.

He's not, what?

Just what I opened the

microphone.

He's under the mayor of

Racine.

He had Corey Mesa

who istill here talking

about a variety of topics.

His one, one of our listeners

wants me to bring up.

Kid, which is, it's money

for repairs for your homes.

And his question was, why is

his neighborhood not in it?

Everybody else's neighborhoods

are in it.

Well, it's not everybody else's

neighborhood, but there are five

what are called neighborhood

tax increment districts that

we have set up for people in

those neighborhoods to do home

repairs to get their homes up

to code or to do some

improvement to their home.

Those five districts roughly

run between one of the

neighborhoods.

One of them runs between

Gould and Melvin.

If you live over in that area,

another one sort of on the

south side historic district

to 23 and that runs between

12th and and decoven and as far

east as center street.

So if you're in that neighborhood,

there's another one in the west

Racine area sort of if you're

if you're between victory

and Linderman and

Washington and Ohio that

that qualifies for some space.

And what do they get?

What are they looking for?

Oh, it's a great question.

Yeah.

So what do you get?

So you can get up to a $10,000

home repair loan.

It's a loan.

It's a forgivable loan.

You got to stay in the house.

But you've got to match.

If you want to do an

improvement, it's a one-to-one

match.

If you want to, you know,

if you're lower income and you

need to repair like you need a

new roof or something like that.

But what we found is a lot of

these neighborhoods as we've

seen houses falling to

disrepair, you'll run into a

homeowner who might be on a

fixed income and say,

look, I'd love to repair the

roof or put on, you know, new

steps on the porch.

But I just can't afford it.

And so what we were finding is

it was a good way to reinvest

in the neighborhood that helps

maintain property values and

stabilize the neighborhood.

And helps, you know, people be

able to stay in their homes

longer than they otherwise might.

It's been a very popular

program.

The other kids are around the

Springs Creek corridor,

basically from 38 to

spring.

If you're in one of those

areas, you can go to our city

of Racine Housing Repair

program.

And those are the $1

forgivable loans.

We also have forgivable

loans for everywhere else.

But those are income

qualified spaces.

So you have to make less than

80% area median income to

qualify there.

So we do have loans and

grants for just about everywhere.

It might not qualify for

everybody, but for just about

everybody.

If you need help with either a

low interest loan or a

forgivable loan slash grant to

do some home repairs, we want

to invest in you and in the

home that you own and live

in to help stabilize the

neighborhood and help people

out with their home repairs.

How do you decide which

neighborhood to get these

grants?

It's a great question.

So state law dictates how you

create what are called tax

increment districts, right?

And so, and the way that

works, people say, well,

well, you're raising my taxes

then.

We're not.

What we're basically saying is

in these districts that we

create as the home values go

up instead of putting those

taxes into the city for revenue.

Instead, we put it towards

these home repair programs.

And you do that for the course

of 20 some years of the life

of the kid, and you can

really reinvest in those

properties and make that happen.

So we're basically taking the

new value on the properties,

the additional value on those

properties and reinvesting it

into the neighborhoods.

You create them at least half

the area has to be blighted

to qualify for a neighborhood

tax increment district.

But then the other part of it

has to be doing well enough

that the area is still increasing

in value, right?

So there's sort of a very,

we couldn't just pick anywhere

to do a neighborhood improvement

did.

There are some areas that are not

increasing in value, and that's

a different set of problems.

But kids wouldn't work there

because there would be no new

revenue to capture.

There are other areas that have

no real blight in them at all.

So there would be no

justification to do it.

So you kind of have to

sort of a Goldilocks approach

to it.

You know, the porch can't be

too hot.

The porch can't be too cold.

It has to be just right.

So we've identified these

neighborhoods that have some

housing challenges, but are

still increasing in value, helped

stabilize those neighborhoods,

and really helps community

members reinvest in those homes.

See, I can never be mayor.

I can never be anybody in

government because I don't know

these things.

And I understand you're

explaining it, but I could

never tell somebody,

no, you're not getting money.

Well, again, that's like

I can't be under jury.

You can't send someone to

the gas chamber.

I could never do it.

Well, you have identified one

of the most challenging parts

about being a mayor.

You know, you'd love to say

yes to everybody all the time.

Anyway, you could, right?

You want to help as many people

as you can for as long as you

can.

But you don't always have all

the resources or all the

authority to do all the things

that you like to do for everybody.

But we, you know, these

programs are going to put about

four to five million dollars

a year back into home repairs

in the community for decades

to come.

And we think that's going to

help stabilize those neighborhoods.

And again, if you don't live

in one of those districts,

but you need help with a home

repair loan or a grant, we do

have some for everybody else

under some other programs.

So if you're interested, I

encourage people to give my

office a call, two, six, two,

six, three, six, nine, one, one,

one.

And we can put you in the

folks in touch with the

folks in the development

office and see how we might

be able to help you out.

You know, my mother gave me

advice from my daughter was

born.

She said, I did this with you

and your brother.

You can't say no every single

time.

You eventually you're going to

have to break down even

though you don't want to.

You've got to say yes every

once in a while because of

that child.

Here's no every single time

they're just going to give up.

Yeah.

And you've got to say yes

sometimes.

And that's.

Well, last year over 200

homeowners got to hear yes.

I'm doing some home repair

grants.

So we're excited about the

opportunity.

That creates is on air the

mayor for St.

Cory Mason is here.

We haven't for a few more

minutes.

Uh, we've got a clock a drop

dead time from to get out.

So, I'm going to stick to

that.

His honor is here the mayor

for St.

Cory Mason.

What they're talking about the

elections coming up April

1st.

There's a lot of things on the

belt.

There's referendums on the

ballot.

And people were not going to

might do it.

You know about that referendum.

Yeah, but I want to know.

Here's what I want.

Do I vote yes or no to get that

to happen?

And that's the trouble with

some of the referendums.

Yeah.

Both of them.

You do.

Yes.

So I want to talk a little bit

about the fire department referendum.

So we have a federal grant that

ends in the year ahead that

funds nine of our firefighters.

Right.

And so we've had it for a few

years.

The grant ends.

We really need to maintain

those nine firefighters.

If we don't have those nine

firefighters, it makes

response times take longer.

And it's relatively cheap.

Right.

It's about $30 a year for

every $100,000 value of your

home.

So for most people, it's, you

know, three or four bucks a

month that it might impact their

taxes to make sure that we've

got good and safe response

times from the fire department.

The fire department does a

great job.

Their calls for service have gone

up.

So we're getting more and more

calls in a given year.

We really need those nine

firefighters to stay in place.

So if you want to make sure that

we can get here house timely.

If if a loved one needs an

ambulance or God forbid, there's

a fire that we need to deal with.

And that's what I want to do.

I want to talk to you.

I want to talk to you.

I want to talk to you.

I want to talk to you.

Yes.

The fire department.

If you want the fire

fired.

Vote yes.

OK.

What else?

You know, the other

references?

There's the school referendum as

well.

And so that's the add resources to

the school district, you know,

for whatever reason the state is

not done.

It's fair share of sending enough

resources back to school

districts like receiving that

they have needs.

And so the school districts

essentially saying, they need

more resources just to maintain

the level of staffing and education

that they have now.

So another important measure.

If you care about the public

schools and making sure our kids

have a chance to get a decent

education and bounce back from

from the COVID and everything else.

We really need we really need to

invest in those schools.

So if you believe in those things

and want our kids to have successful

public schools.

And frankly, you know, as we're

trying to get people to live and

receive and or stay and

receive how people feel about

those schools really matters.

That's what a lot of families

look at before they decide to

live somewhere.

They will tell me what the

schools are like.

You know, when I sold real

estate for a short time.

Two questions.

What's the house made out of?

And how are the schools?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So it's important thing.

If we want to keep people

here, we want to recruit families

to want to live here.

You really got to invest in public

schools.

Okay.

So the answer, if you want to

invest in the public school referendum

is yes.

Is yes.

And the reason Mary and I were

talking about this off the

year.

Sometimes they're written in such

a way where if you answer yes,

well, then you meant no.

If you know, then you meant yes.

And that's why I get so confused

on these.

And I'm sitting there reading

these things.

Like I didn't get out of grammar

school.

And I'm looking at every word

just to make sure I got over.

Then I get done.

And my wife says to me, well,

you didn't vote yes.

Did you?

That means you voted no.

Right?

So, man, we'll say they're worded

in a clunky sort of way.

State statutes requires that the

city and the school district

write them that way.

It's written in the laws.

How must be clunky?

Almost.

Almost.

No, it's actually the language

you have to use is actually the

verb you just actually listed in

the statute.

So we have to sort of copy and

paste that and then insert the

numbers as they may need to appear.

But it does create a challenge.

The other thing I guess we'll say

about the fire referendum.

Well, if we vote for this,

are you guys going to spend it

on something else?

No.

By resolution, it can only be

spent on maintaining those

positions and making sure that

we've got a good fire department

that can respond to emergency calls

when people need it.

Okay.

And finally this morning,

Stuart J. Wattles in our news was

talking about the meeting last

night.

He didn't have a quorum.

Yeah.

The thing was over in 30 seconds.

The meeting.

What's that all about?

What's going on there?

Because I don't understand it.

And I heard Stuart explain it.

And I still don't understand it.

And I went to college and I don't

understand it.

Right.

Right.

So the way the state law works for

any city council to meet two thirds

of the elected officials have to be

there to have quorum.

There's other committees or, you

know, nonprofit boards who might be

on where you have to have half the

people there to have quorum.

But under state law it's two thirds.

So we have 15 members of the council

with 15 alderman who get elected

around the city.

If 10 of them aren't there, we can't

have a meeting.

So this is the second meeting in a

row where we've had enough absences

that we couldn't convene a meeting.

And so what was the meeting about?

We had a number of things.

We had a couple of developments up.

We had a number of proposals to go

through.

We had grants to apply for.

It's a normal.

Of course, we need to usually a

16 page agenda with quite a few

things on there.

There were liquor license items on

there.

There were a number of things on

there.

We need to have a meeting that we

need to do approve.

And some of them are timely.

So, you know, we need people to be

able to, look, I get some people can

get sick.

And I think that's what happened in

some cases.

I've missed meetings in the past

because I've been sick.

I'm still getting over.

You can hear my voice a little bit,

a bit of a, the neurovirus that was

going around.

Oh great.

So, that can happen.

So, that can happen.

Why?

But I will say, you know, if the

council's going to function, we do need

people to show up so that we can

conduct our business.

So why wouldn't somebody show up?

Not saying.

You're right.

They could be sick.

They could have had an emergency.

Why would they not show up?

What would be the purpose?

I think you would have to ask them.

Why?

I mean, I can't speak for the

other elders.

I just know for us to do the work.

We have to actually show up.

I mean, there was a time earlier this

the last year where they were

intentionally not showing up to

pursue an agenda that they wanted to

get done.

I hope it's not a return to some of

that.

But, you know, we need people to show

up and any show up for work to do the

work of the people.

And I think that's what we need to

do.

We need people to show up.

We need people to show up and

show up for work to do the work

of the people.

And I hope that this is the,

we're not going to see a third

meeting where we can't conduct

business because people don't

show up to do their job.

Okay.

Hey, I appreciate you coming in.

Yeah.

My pleasure.

I told you to be up.

I courted too.

And minutes to spare.

So I keep my word just to have a

seat.

It's honor the mayor for seeing

glad to see you in here.

By the way, how did you knew

office staff?

They're great.

They're great.

Yeah.

Because Ellen in the office

retired.

So we got a great new guy named

Nick Wilkin.

Shout out to Nick.

And a Coast Guard guy who's,

you know, is working to the

Milwaukee D.A.'s office before

he came to us.

He's doing a great job.

So if you call my office,

Nick's very friendly.

So shout out to Nick.

And he's been great and keeping

me on the straight narrow and,

you know, sent me the text

message really this morning.

Don't forget.

You've got to be on WRJN by

seven AM.

So I appreciate that very much.

Did he send you the picture?

Yes.

He did.

He did.

We are a little Facebook picture

of you.

Yeah.

There you go.

We send that out every day.

Thank you for coming in.

I appreciate it.

I appreciate it.

Have a great day everyone.

And I'll see you next month.

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