A Conversation with Alder David Maack

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A Conversation with Alder David Maack

The Don Rosen Show · Wed Feb 12, 2025

And my guess is fourth district,

redistrict all their David Mac,

who made it through the potential

snowstorm.

Yeah, thanks.

I could have slept in today.

You know, the first thing I do when

I wake up in the morning is look

out in my driveway.

He's taking a picture.

Hi, everybody.

And just look at it.

I'm going to take a picture.

I'm going to take a picture.

Okay.

And just look at the roof of my car

my wife's car to make sure it didn't

snow overnight.

And this is all the time just because

I don't want to go out there and get

surprised.

First thing in the morning when I go out

and clean your windows off and

everything for you.

No, I do that for her.

Oh, that's nice.

Because I leave first and then I leave

about a quarter after five in the

morning.

I get the whole operation on the

control.

Wow.

Yeah. Now my biggest problem is

like when we had the big groundhog

day snowstorm, I was after three

o'clock in the morning and the

driveway cleared because it was a

mess.

Every time I did it the plow came

by and put it all back.

I was in the emergency

operation center.

Until like nine ten in the

morning and

drove home and the roads were

terrible and

some lady yells at me.

Hey, are you the older

man?

Is I'm driving down the

street?

All my neighbors are upset with you.

And it's like, all right.

Then she says, do you think you could

give me a ride to work?

My boss was supposed to pick me up

at the hospital and I'm like, all right,

get in lady.

You really did?

I did.

Whoa, I didn't know older people

giving rides to people when they

didn't do it because I was an

older man.

It's just, you know, whatever.

The goodness of your heart thing.

Yeah.

There was nowhere for me to park.

Couldn't park on Gold Street.

The alley hadn't been plowed.

And there's a little

thing over at Lakeview Park

and the parking lot that used to be

there.

And the wind drifts had

created just enough space

for me to put my car in

and I parked.

And then I got scared.

I thought, what if they told my

car?

Well, you can't talk wherever you

want to. You're an older.

Yeah, right.

And I'm walking through four foot

drifts down the alley.

And there my wife is

shoveling out a snow drift

in the backyard.

Is this this is the ground hug?

Yeah, that reached up to the garage.

Yeah, I know. I got pictures of

I just had one of those memory

things pop up on my phone.

Like I needed to be reminded of that.

But that's the day I had a walk

from Walgreens. I parked the

Walgreens on Highway 20.

And I can ask you something.

And you probably don't have an answer

to this. I don't want to ambush you

with this. What takes so long

for the roads to get plowed?

Now, victory avenue.

And I've been here 25 years.

It seems to never get plowed.

Now, the last snow we had wasn't a big

snow, but it was messy.

It took over a week to get victory

avenue plowed.

Commissioner Rooney sent out an

email to all of us explaining the

road.

So, I think it's just back years.

I mean, it's not just this goes

back to the horse and buggy.

Yeah, it's just not the current

administration. I forgot how many

miles of road we have.

So, I'm bonnanced to me.

I thought everything gets plowed.

All the arterial streets get plowed

down to the pavement.

Other streets don't get as.

Pristine of a, you know,

plowing, but they do get

plowed during a snow storm.

Well, this is a week after the

snow storm, right?

I think it was snow storm.

It was just, you know, snow.

A couple of inches.

And it took about a week to get the

street plowed.

I'm not sure why.

I would think that victory avenue

with W.R. Cheyenne would be a

major third there.

That's why it's not getting plowed.

Well, I just, you know, I know it's

a tough job. I know, especially in a big

way, you know, I don't really

understand that.

I really do.

But eventually, you know, and I

know people they're on.

I see them on this on the

Facebook page and on the ring

systems.

All complaining, you know, I live in a

street that hasn't been plowed yet.

It's been a week. I understand it.

You can't get to every street.

There's a lot of streets that we're

seeing. I understand that.

It's going to be.

Indefensible.

Is that a word?

Yeah.

But there were, there are some

challenges out there.

And I get frustrated because.

You know, I'm driving down.

The street after a snow storm.

And.

It's difficult sometimes for these

pause to get through because people

are not. Yes.

Are not following the alternate

road.

They're going to be on the street

at all.

Right.

And so you're driving down.

And your street is becoming narrow

and narrower because of all the snow

around these cars.

Yes. Yes.

So there was a, there was a street

and I park on it frequently.

It's not in front of my house.

It's more of a commercial area.

And there'd been a car there for

a long time.

And it's not in place whatsoever.

And the snow was all piled around

and finally I called it and I said,

listen, this car is not doing the

alternate side parking like it's

supposed to.

And it just creates a mess and an

inconvenience.

That is the number one reason I think

out there.

Why are streets are not better.

Cloud than they should be.

And that is not the fault of the city.

You know, you're absolutely right.

You're absolutely right.

You're absolutely right.

There was a car parked in front of my house.

Shouldn't have been there.

I don't know whose car it was.

It wasn't mine.

Anyway, it was parked there.

And the last snow we had,

they had a plow around the car.

And I get it twice because he didn't

move his car for a couple of days.

So when he finally did move his car,

we had all that snow.

And it just made a mess for like a week

and a half because this person was

inconsiderate, didn't care.

I don't know who it was.

Probably one of my neighbors.

But I didn't recognize.

Now, I have two neighbors.

Any of the side of me wasn't their cars.

They have driveways.

So I know whose car it was.

But they made a big mess in the street.

And it lasted over a week because

they didn't care.

Right.

It was not important to them.

They were there.

And I think they're seeing a lot of

different kinds of things.

Public works has had a major turnover

of both supervisors and

line operators because of

retirement and everything else.

So they're dealing with fairly new staff

who hasn't been and who it doesn't have

the experience, the institutional knowledge

that previous staff had.

Is this one of the things that Elon Musk

gutted?

They were saying no.

OK, but this.

So this will be, you know,

it's going to take a couple of years

for them to hit really dry.

You would think, you know,

just retirements.

If you look at the

you look at the demographics

and I remember Gene Jacobs

were talking about how

the

baby boomers were all

you know, reaching that retirement

age and boomer.

And it took a little longer,

you sometimes have institutions,

businesses and things like that

that you have a large pool of

employees that are around the same

age and boom, they flip.

Retire in all of a sudden

you're dealing with a very new work

for us.

I know that.

It's a it's a newer.

I don't want to say younger because

I don't know what the age demographic is.

I'll say younger in the sense of

from experience.

Younger staff both on the

supervisory level and on the

line level and that

that's going to make it that's

going to make a difference if you

get a group of people that

don't have that experience

coming into it.

It's going to take them a few years

to hit their stride and to

really know their know their job.

I'd last nine seconds

if this job is a snow plower

because I would get on the street

I just push them out of the way

and I wouldn't let them do the

stuff.

I get on the street.

It's just that nine seconds.

They pull out the street.

You're all you're all talked

done and yet you're the guy that

drives, you know, the speed limit

everything Yeah, I'm going to do

But yet, yeah.

Okay, I'd plum right out of the

way.

David Mac, fourth district

area.

Yeah, you sure.

I am definitely sure.

I thought you guys had some

amount in my driveway is on an

alley.

So it's even longer.

You got alley parking.

Yeah, I love it.

You know what?

Even in the worst snowstorm way

that big brownhog day snowstorm

by one o'clock in the afternoon.

The sun was out.

People were traveling.

There were a few days for the

alley to get plowed.

Well, it's, it's alley.

Very street.

I don't think it got plowed until

later that night.

But the main roads were plowed.

And I live on a made road.

So I don't care about your alley.

Okay.

That's just the human nature.

We had Elliott Abrams in.

I'm sure the guy that's.

Yeah, okay.

Elliott Abrams is here.

The store is load up on milk,

bread, butter, all the staples.

When in just a few hours the sun will be out.

You can go to the stores.

Stars don't last days.

They last a couple of hours.

That's it. And then they move out.

We went out to eat that night.

We actually found a restaurant that was on that.

The only restaurant in Racine was

open that night was Chubby's on state.

Yes. It's a picture of me in Chubby's on state.

You ever seen my picture there?

Yeah. I had a Bill Lawrence.

This is the contest was back in the 90s.

We had a chubby sitting contest there.

Did you win? Yes, because he can.

And versus food with down road.

You know what it is. He loaded up with all the condiments.

Yeah. I didn't. I said make it plain. cooperate.

So I was easing from eating the hamburger.

But he had all these things dripping off the side tomato lettuce,

where I didn't do that and I just had a plane.

How long did you have to?

No, it's just who couldn't finish it first?

So our picture is there at Chubby's,

You get a t-shirt?

No.

And he ain't.

We're in Arkansas.

And I like to find restaurants that were on TV,

like on diners, drive-ins and dives.

Oh, yeah, that's food.

Any of those.

So we found in Arkansas barbeque place outside a little rock

that was on man versus food.

And we're sitting there and we're eating.

And they were known for their super hot sauce.

So my father-in-law who liked hot sauce,

he can't eat it anymore.

But he did.

He burned a hole through his stomach.

Anyway, he bought some of their hot sauce.

By the way, thank you for that image.

Head to sign a waiver.

Yeah.

Then he wasn't going to hold them responsible.

So there was a guy there that was doing the challenge.

And I don't know if it was like a pulled pork sandwich

but smothered in a gallon of this hot sauce.

And he's sitting there and he's attempting it.

He gets up and he goes over to the soda machine.

And he fills up his glass.

And he starts gulping.

The owner comes over with a rag.

And he's wiping the sweat off the guy's forehead.

And he ended up downing the sandwich within the time.

Well, then he got up.

And he started heading to the bathroom.

And they said, no.

You go outside and they had a big hose ready for them.

Come on.

This is breakfast time.

What do you think?

And I headed to the car because I didn't want to see the aftermath of anything.

Breakfast.

But we saw someone actually take it a man versus food challenge.

Well, it wasn't the TV show, but they took the restaurant challenge.

And I had to stop after a while.

The guy, the host of that.

Because it was too much.

Yeah.

This guy was, it's just unhealthy.

Here's the library.

You know, it's on the history channel.

He's doing.

Forget his name.

Yeah.

I forget too, but he's doing color commentary on the history channel and some of these

shows like he's some sort of historian from his hospital.

A little bit.

There was a hot sauce eating kind of thing at the library.

And it was in a contest, but it was a hot sauce tasting.

And there were about 12 people there in the room with the library.

And we went my wife and I.

And there were 10 different hot sauces.

They were covered.

So you couldn't see what you were having.

And they had the hot sauce.

You go up a little cup of hot sauce and they little chip dips and stuff.

And I never forget number eight.

I thought I have to go to the hospital.

And it was that bad.

And there was another guy too who just couldn't handle it.

And they had milk there.

So you could drink milk and try to put the fire out.

It wouldn't put the fire out.

I said to my wife, I was up against the wall.

I said, give me out of here.

Give me out of here.

Give me out of here.

I'm not going to make it.

Finally, after a few minutes, it's subsided.

And then I hit number 10.

Same thing happened.

So at the end, they show you what you were taking.

And remember like a celebrity taster?

No, no, no, no.

Nobody could do it.

It's just looking at number eight.

Number 10.

We're cooking hot sauces.

We supposed to take one little drop and put it in your thing.

And you took a whole chip full.

What?

Because they, it was just like the other hot sauces who were like regular, you know, hot sauce,

you know, like salsa and hot sauce.

But they didn't tell us that it was a mistake.

They should never have used cooking hot sauce as we put one little trip in there to do a whole big pot load.

But we were taking chip loads of that stuff.

I remember the other guy, too, saying, okay, I didn't do it.

I didn't do it.

I didn't do it.

And I was the same way.

I couldn't believe how hot it was.

And all the milk in the world wasn't putting out this fire.

Yet didn't face your wife.

No, don't.

Ten other people didn't face.

I don't know how much they took.

But no, it didn't bother them at all.

They were just soft.

You're soft.

Down wrong thing.

I'm soft.

I got another eating stirrup.

I'll tell you how.

I'll give you an IOU for one free brushing.

I'll see.

We'd come over to my house and shovel my sidewalk.

No, I'm, I'm 70.

These days are shoveling for me.

They're coming to a slow hand.

I do 70.

Down your 70 years old.

I know.

I never talk about it.

You don't have any gray hair either.

Wow.

That's gray hair.

Oh, a little bit.

There's a couple of strands of it up there.

Years ago, back in the,

because late 90s, we had a young lady working here.

And she said,

what do you dye your hair?

And I said, I don't dye my hair.

They said, well, your hair is black.

I said, my hair is black.

But nobody's got black hair.

I say yes.

There are people in the world that have black hair.

My dad's 79 years old and has very little gray in his hair.

And I've been white, you know, gray hair.

I know.

I was in my 30s.

You know, my mother was 92 and she passed away.

I get a picture of her hair.

She had a little bit of gray hair on this little,

and that was it.

She just had black hair.

It's just my father was like you.

We had white hair when he was like, you know, 18 years old.

My, my five year old.

I'm like, I'll, I'll say to him.

Tanner, you, you look just like me.

No, I don't.

We're, uh, we're different colors.

And so I'll pull up my sleeve and I put it next to his arm.

I said, we're the same skin color.

Yeah.

Well, I don't have white hair like you do.

My hair is black.

I don't like white hair.

He says, I don't like people with white hair.

Oh, really?

A little runt.

You want to get white hair real quickly?

Go to become a president.

Yeah.

These guys age so fast in the White House.

I mean, it's, it's amazing.

The truck looks the same as he did.

You know, he does.

And his hair is not that, that yellowish hair.

It's, it's getting white now.

You could see it on his eyebrows.

So he was an orange or the other day?

Not his hair.

No.

His, his hair is white now.

You could, he's, it ages.

You could, you could see them.

You know who age real fast?

Obama.

When he was in the White House.

He came in with black hair.

He left the one.

Like Santa Claus.

He had white hair on his head.

Same thing with George Boyce.

The, the most recent one.

I was a convention page at the 1984 Republican National Convention.

I remember, I was Texas.

I met him for the first time at a press conference.

They allowed us pages to go to a press conference that he was doing.

And then he lingered around.

And we shook his hand.

Everything.

And then I drove in his motorcade.

He was vice president running for president and talk about a wild experience driving in

a, a presidential or vice presidential motorcade.

And you're zipping down the freeway at 80 miles an hour and you're going through red lights

and all this fun stuff.

And then they arranged for us to have a meeting greet with him on the floor that they were

holding him on.

So, you know, those were a couple of the times.

And then W, the first time I met him.

W.

We were at the.

I was at the.

A governor's conference on emergency management in Ampleton.

He was speaking across the street.

And after he got done speaking, we were having lunch.

He came over.

And he came in through the right door behind the stage.

And I thought, oh, I'm on the left side.

No chance of shaking his hand if there is.

And.

Also, I see him looking at the secret service.

They point to the left door.

He's got a beeline over to the left side almost get tackled by the secret service.

And he comes in.

He does a short, you know, rope line type thing.

He came over to me.

I said, Mr. President, I just want you know, we're praying for you.

He said, thank you.

That's that's very nice.

And he turned around and he started walking away.

And he turns back and he comes back over to me.

And he says, I just want to thank you once again.

That is just a wonderful gift.

Well, that is nice.

And I'm like, wow, the president of the United States took the time to actually turn around and come back over and say a few more words to me.

I was like, wow, that is really cool.

So, you know, it's a handsome, unique experience is watching the inauguration and the fact that it got canceled outside reminding me in 1985.

I went to Ronald Reagan's second inauguration.

And it got canceled.

It was the coldest one on history.

The pre got canceled, the outdoor swearing in got canceled.

But I did go to the inaugural ball that night.

Had a great time.

By the way, I canceled.

You know why they were too soft.

Yeah, they were soft.

See this picture now.

You can't see it on the radio.

I'll describe it to you.

See that picture.

That picture before.

Yeah.

I just show it to you.

Okay.

That's a picture of John Kennedy with a little girl next to her name is Nell Minow.

Okay.

She's my guest from time to time.

She'll be on the first week in March again.

Right.

And her father was Newton Minow, chairman of the Federal Communications Commission.

So here's what I say.

She was standing next to John Kennedy.

She knows John Kennedy.

I know, Nell Minow.

So I am one degree away from John Kennedy.

John Kennedy instead.

But still one degree away.

Doesn't matter if he's alive.

A one degree away from Bill Clinton.

I have a friend in Washington who is John Kennedy.

This is John F. Kennedy.

But he's gone.

You can't.

You're not a one degree away from him.

You know, let me enjoy it.

Please.

I can put you in a picture next to Donald Trump.

If you want, then you'll have zero separation.

No, I'm one degree away from him.

I dad met him when he was three or four years old.

I'm one degree away from Donald Trump.

I don't need your help.

But did your dad have Donald Trump's phone number and his role at X?

Donald Trump didn't have a phone.

Now, my cousin was James Rosen from Fox News.

And he interviewed Donald Trump many times.

So that's your one degree of separation.

Well, my dad too.

Right.

No.

And you know me.

So you get two degrees away.

See how they work.

I was just going to ask you something.

I don't think that one degree works like that.

You have to.

The person has to be able to.

Still contact that person.

No, wait.

No.

No.

Yes.

No.

No.

So I have this friend in Washington.

She worked for Governor Clinton.

He brought her to Washington.

We're having dinner and she's texting Bill Clinton.

I was one degree separation away from Bill Clinton at that point.

I could have said, hey, let me borrow your phone.

And I could have got on there.

Hey, Bill, it's me, David.

How are you doing, buddy?

The our general manager here.

Uh, once before Barack Obama was even in politics at all.

He saw him on the street in Chicago when he was standing there with him.

And he said, uh, Barack Obama said, you got a cigarette.

So Chris Moro gave Barack Obama a cigarette.

Does Chris Moro have.

Barack Obama's phone number.

If phone numbers don't matter with the greatest separation.

It does.

No, it doesn't.

Can Chris Moro get you a meeting with Barack Obama?

Yes.

No, he can't.

He said he'll call them up.

I said, do you still need cigarettes?

I got another one.

Yeah, one cigarette.

But you said Chris Moro doesn't have Barack Obama's phone number.

I don't know.

He can't call him.

Maybe he does.

I don't know.

I didn't see his roll of deck on his phone or anything.

Look at you getting upset about this.

I gave Ryan's previous is starting politics.

Okay.

And where is he now?

He was chief of staff.

Where is he?

He still has Donald Trump's phone number in his roll of debt.

Oh, that's been changed many times.

All right.

So as Ryan's this number, I'm sure we're talking to, I get it.

We have to talk about Molly Jones when we get back.

We'll talk about her.

A couple of other things we want to talk about.

Dave McForth District Alder is here.

Dave McForth District Alder is here.

Fourth District Alder, David Mack is here today.

We'll talk about Molly Jones.

He recently passed away about a week ago.

And she was one of your fellow Alders in the, I think she was second district.

I'm trying to remember where she's.

She was in the 13th.

She was up there.

It was 14, not number because we got sworn in at the same time this past year.

Yeah.

13th, I think.

Last, last day, bro.

15th.

Yeah.

She's up there somewhere.

She was in the south end of the city.

And she was there for a number of years.

Very nice person.

I had her on the air with me.

And the podcast, if you want to check it out of our website, you can't go to Don Rosen's

show and you'll see on March 20th last year.

She was in here.

Very sweet person.

And I was going to have her in again.

And then she said, well, I'm not feeling well today.

And I did.

You know, people don't feel well all the time.

I never knew it was anything bad.

But you work with her.

Well, I used to.

I met her before I came back onto the council.

So I wasn't an alderman at the time, but I would run into her Mary land.

And Tracy Laren, who is Alderman of the fourth district.

All the time downtown every first Friday.

They were walking around.

And we'd take a picture of them with little Kai back when he was.

Yeah, when he was just a baby and everything.

And we would chat for a few minutes and then move on.

So then I'd run into her on the 4th of July.

And she was just real active in the community.

I was talking to the mayor about her.

And she was one of these people that she knew every nook and cranny in her district.

And if there was a pothole, she knew where it was.

And she was calling up and demanding that it got filled.

That sort of thing.

And, you know, she was just real vibrant and full of life.

And when I came back and I hadn't seen her for a while.

And I came back last April for the swearing in.

And I looked at her and I was like, wow, she looked really frail.

Really?

And I didn't know her that well, so.

It wasn't the Molly that I remembered.

And then the mayor put me on public works.

And she was the chair of the public works committee.

And I would just sit there and sometimes she'd wear a big hat.

Sometimes she'd wear a scarf around her head and other times.

You could tell she had, she had a wig on and she never talked about her illness.

She never told anybody she was sick, but you could see it and sense it.

And you just didn't talk about it.

And one day she made a comment about her hat.

She says, do you like my new hat?

And she says, sometimes she wears a hat because she doesn't want to.

And so she kind of acknowledged at that point that, yeah, I been through something.

So it's October.

We're all up in Madison, Middleton for the League of minutes,

Bally's conference.

And I sat with Molly and Mary Land quite a bit during that three days that we were up there.

Well, there was one evening where we were all in the exhibition hall and there's exhibitors in there.

Giving out swag and stuff like that.

And I said, Molly, I said, could you go get me something?

And she says, sure, no problem.

So she takes off and she goes over and I'm going around the exhibit hall and I'm talking to people.

And I come back an hour later and Mary lands as if you've seen Molly.

Well, she went and was going to go get something for me.

And she, you know, and then we're like, is she okay?

Did something happen?

And we both kind of got scared.

So now I feel like it's my responsibility to go find her because she was running an errand for me.

And I'm walking around the exhibition hall and I'm going up and down the alley aisles.

And, you know, I'm probably looking for her for 20 minutes.

I can't find her.

And I'm thinking, maybe I need to retrace my steps because what does she move from here to here?

And then the worst, what is she went up to a room and she fell or, you know, who knows?

I was just, I was really worried.

And I come back to the table and there was Molly sitting with Mary land.

And she's like, we found her.

And Molly had got sidetracked talking to somebody for an hour.

But she had us all scared.

You always have people that you want her to do an errand for you.

You want to meet and clean your car off.

You always have people that you're the one that offered.

Well, we'll miss her.

And again, I didn't know her well.

Only for when she was in here.

Yeah.

And she was a very nice or a switch once.

And two things we have to get in.

You want to talk about Godfather three?

I was just joking.

All right.

So Don Rose, it sends me a text.

Give me some bullet points of things to talk about.

Well, they don't want to bring up, yeah.

So I thought, you know, I'll make this really funny because he wants to talk about city stuff.

But no, let's.

Oh, so you didn't want to talk about Godfather three?

Do you know there's another version?

Well, you know what?

The Godfather three was the best one out there.

Do you know there's another version of it called Godfather Koda.

Yeah, D.A.

I watched it.

The death.

It's the death of Michael Corleone is the name of it.

It's actually Godfather three, but it was remastered and they changed some scenes in it.

Yeah, not a lot, but they changed some scenes.

But they added or or tweaked some scenes.

Well, the last thing he died.

Oh, Sean, I just blew it.

But it's called the death of Michael Corleone.

He died it.

He died in the.

No, he's sat there.

He was an old man.

He just sat there on the bench in Godfather Koda.

He dropped dead.

Yeah.

Kind of like the old man and Godfather one, two.

Yeah.

No, Godfather one.

Brandon was at an orange in his mouth and just killed over.

Jerry Kramer.

You ran into.

Yeah.

You know, but let's tell people who he is first.

He came into football in 1958 for WRGN.

No.

Him and didn't you and Jerry Kramer used to do a party on the pavement?

I think I had a picture of you too.

I have a picture of you and me doing party on the fence.

Is that Tom Kramer?

Tom Kramer.

Yes.

Jerry Kramer came into the NFL in 1958 and the Packers he played with for years.

He's 89 years old now and still going and you ran into him recently.

Yeah.

You know, I don't like paying for autographs.

The thrill of getting an autograph sometimes is getting the free ones.

So public appearances that like pick and save and all that.

And I've met Jerry Kramer a couple of times.

First time Amy and I met him was in the mid 90s.

We were at the state fair.

And he had a booth there and he was selling his book.

And so we got a picture with them.

Well, a couple of days before I saw him last Friday here in Racine,

a Facebook memory came up.

Him and was it Ray Lewis?

Was Ray Lewis the football player?

Anyway, we're elected to the football Hall of Fame at the same time.

And so I met both of those guys and I congratulated them and put a put the pictures.

So I pulled up the picture when I went and saw Jerry Kramer.

I said, hey, Jerry, I found this picture of us.

And he looked at me and he says, when was that taken?

I said, had to be the mid 90s at the state fair.

He goes, oh, 30 years ago.

I was like, yeah, well, it's been the, I mean, time flies.

And it was, it was just, I said, you know, you're one of the last of the old timers.

And not too many of those guys left anymore.

So every chance I get to meet or see one of them again, I take advantage of it.

Because, you know, they did something that no other team has three time Super Bowl champions.

Technically, it wasn't the Super Bowl, but that's okay.

Well, that's semantics.

Yeah, it wasn't the first few games weren't the Super Bowl.

The Super Bowl champions, but you know, they did it three years in a row.

They had a dynasty going on, you know, a free agency and everything else.

You don't have those dinosaurs.

Hey, the trophy's named after a packer.

Yeah, exactly.

The Super Bowl trophy is named after a Green Bay Packer.

The smallest city in the NFL to have a, have its own team.

It used to play Milwaukee for half their games at one time.

They stopped doing that.

Yeah, the old county stadium when I first moved to Milwaukee.

I don't know what I understand.

And even worse to play County Stadium.

Yeah.

I mean, it's a parking lot.

Yeah, I have to worry about it.

Okay, the last few moments here, anything in your district we should know about?

Well, that's, that's what I'm going to write Donald Trump about is I want to see the name

of County Stadium restored.

And I also want to see the name Sears Tower restored.

And I'm thinking that Donald Trump, if he's renaming things, he can help us rename County

Stadium and the Sears Tower.

You can do both.

Just come up with enough money for naming rights.

And you can do it.

It's not that different.

You can do it by executive order.

No, that's not what it is.

Okay, so anything in your district we should know about going on?

You're, you're my older man.

Yeah.

I'm on the Douglas Avenue bidboard and we are going to.

Business incremental development.

Something like that.

What is that?

Business improvement.

So they're busy promoting things on the Douglas Avenue corridor.

There might be a couple potential development projects coming up.

The city development director wants to meet with me and brief me on something.

So I don't know what that's involving yet, but that could be good news.

You know, things are kind of quiet right now.

It's wintertime.

Not a lot happening, which is.

Good to some degree.

So when do you start getting the complaints about snow removal?

Will it be this afternoon or tomorrow?

Yeah.

I got plenty of the last.

Really?

Yeah.

And you know, people are understanding.

They know that.

Not much I can do about it.

I'm like, you know what?

Thank you for letting me know.

I will pass it along to public works.

Do you really pass it along?

I do.

Okay.

You know, they need.

I know that they're getting the complaints to.

But they need to know, hey, we as all the men are getting the complaints.

I can't.

Pick up the phone and say, send a snow truck over to Don Rosen's house.

Why can't you clear out the snow in front of his apron on his driveway.

But I can say, you know what?

Don Rosen on Main Street said his.

The snow removal was lost.

He.

And you guys left, you know, three inches on the surface.

Oh, I'll never say that because I'm one of the people gets my street plan first.

Right.

So I'm never having a problem with it.

I have a problem with the people parking on the street that shouldn't be there and causing the plow to go around it.

That's not the city's fault.

That's inconsiderate people.

You know why you get your street plot first is I call him up and say, you know, you don't have to go to Don Rosen's house.

You know, he's a key constituent of mine.

And he's on the radio.

He's a radio personality.

I want his vote.

David Mac you're a great guest.

Thank you.

Have a good time with you.

Yeah.

We laugh a little bit and don't take life too seriously.

Thank you very much.

David Mac our fourth district alder.

Hey, coming up with the next hour.

I've got tickets to give away to the happy together tour coming to state fair.

We're talking August already here.

Yeah, I went to that one time.

Good show.

Yeah, it is.

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