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All right, there's a taste of what we're going to have for you this morning,
Carol G and Forte and Jim Acerra here.
We're talking about shows from the 50s and 60s on television.
Some of them still play in syndication pretty well.
You know, the early 60s shows like Dick Van Dyke, Andy Griffith,
they're still on, prime time, on the TV land and all the, you know,
the retro channels on cable.
So they're still there.
So what do you have for us today, guys?
You're very good at this stuff.
Well, you do a lot of digging.
We sure do.
First of all, it's good to be back done.
Carol and I like to share our memories of growing up in Racine.
Today we'll be talking about early TV.
Did you know that TV sets actually started to appear in the late 40s and early 50s?
Again, we'll be talking about the early TV sets and some of our favorite kids' shows
growing up in the 50s and early 60s.
Now, the early TVs, of course, were in black and white.
They were not color.
Some of the stations we listened to from Milwaukee were WTMJ, Channel 4, WISN, Channel 12, WIT,
WITI, Channel 6.
And of course, I think our favorite one was WGN out of Chicago.
It had so many kids' programs.
You're a traitor.
Watch the Chicago TV.
I don't know.
Channel 5 was out of Chicago, Channel 7, and Channel 2.
Most of these TV channels had radio stations first and they sort of migrated into television.
So Jim, even though we had all these channels, we could not see a picture at all times.
Right.
Yes, the TV, we heard the national anthem around midnight.
And then we saw the test pattern.
Remember what that looked like?
Wait a second.
Before the test pattern, it was snow on the TV.
We're going to address snow.
We're talking about that.
Yeah.
Yes.
We frequently had snow on the TV.
Oh, yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
So, yes, we recall that test pattern.
And then, again, we had those channels, but you know, it wasn't always easy to deal with those channels.
We did not know that eventually we would be able to hold a remote in our hands.
So we had to get up from the floor, from our chairs, to change that channel, to change that dial.
How did your family work?
Well, that was a lot of work, you know, being an oldest of a year older than my sister.
I always said, hey, get up there and turn that TV.
I'm the boss here.
This is another first world problem.
Who's going to get up and change the channel?
That's right.
That's right.
Yeah.
It's your turn.
Another problem, like you say, a first world problem died and compared to third world.
We had to wait because there was a warm-up period with the two.
No, yeah, the tube's had a warm-up.
Yeah, that's right.
It was not instantaneous.
Yeah.
And that took forever, if you wanted to watch your favorite show.
Right.
Now, some of the brands that you probably remember was, oh, Philco, Zenith, RCA Victor,
who remembers a Stromberg Carlson.
We had an admiral TV.
Yeah, probably.
Yeah.
That's right.
And of course, there was a month's TV.
M-U-N-T-Z, Magnovats, Crosley, GE, and a few others.
I never had heard of the months, but that was right up there, huh?
Yeah.
I think it was out of Chicago.
It would advertise on TV.
One of these guys would always highlight how great a month was.
Really?
Yeah.
Remember that.
Oh.
Well, we were so thrilled to have a TV.
We had a Zenith, eventually, but the size of the screens.
Now, we think it was possibly, possibly as small as a piece of paper, but with my heavy-duty
research on this subject, about in those early fifties, the largest screen was apparently
about 16 inches.
However, these 16 inch screens, or less, came in gigantic furniture arrangements.
They were beautiful.
Yeah.
Yes.
This was a piece of fine furniture for your home.
It had to be delivered and expensive.
Now, somewhere we found out Jim, maybe they were equivalent to about $2,000 today.
We think so.
It was a big purchase.
But there were some problems, of course, once we got one.
As Don mentioned, there was always snow to deal with.
You had to adjust the rabbit ears.
Remember that?
My dad always tried to adjust them to make sure that the snow would disappear.
Sometimes, of course, the picture tube would go out, and that was a terrible thing because
that cost a whole lot of money if your picture tube went out.
We'll get into that a little bit later.
By the way, we had a built-in television into the wall in the basement.
It was built in, and all the guts of it were in the boiler room with the oil burner was.
And every time a tube went out, we had a call, the guy from Star TV to come down again,
a giant box of tubes.
That's right.
We were doing a tube test to see which one was broken, pop it in.
And when finally the TV went on, it was like, oh.
Thank God.
We're back.
We're back.
That's right.
I can live again.
The miracle man.
Remember the antennas with the motors to turn?
You always had to aim it towards Chicago or Milwaukee, depending on what station you wanted to watch.
Most TV antennas were, of course, on the roof.
Every house had a TV antenna on a roof, if you remember.
Some had towers, of course.
And where did we buy TVs?
Well, the main thing about buying a TV, I would say in thinking about this,
was the guidance that you received when you went to buy the TV.
Because this was a very huge purchase and a new invention for most of us.
But I think what comes to mind is lay through a hardware.
Novak on Charles Street.
Keystone.
Fish furniture on Maine.
Allen's merchandising over by the Harlow plant.
Christians and brothers on Maine Street.
Gay heart and Walker on Taylor Avenue.
And this purchase was so important.
I thought my family was never going to get one.
So that heightened the excitement when we did.
And so the one book I have written about growing up in a recene,
buying our TV warranted an entire chapter.
And you would have been better off without it in the long run.
You didn't make it with the mystery, buddy.
Well, TVs often needed repairs, of course, like everything else.
And where did we get our repairs?
Well, some of the repair shops were Keystone.
Which is still there, by the way, on Douglas Avenue.
I've seen a sign.
I've seen a sign.
I've seen a sign.
I've seen a sign.
Yeah, I've seen a sign.
Well, Delits on State Street.
A place called Television Engineers on Douglas Avenue.
But those TV trucks were everywhere, just like the milk trucks or the coal trucks.
And these guys would come in their green uniforms, green shirt, green pants.
They'd bring this huge, you know, this chest or whatever.
And they'd open it up and it'd be tubes everywhere, just like Don said.
And I remember my dad would always say,
I hope it's not the picture tube.
And you have to take out a loan just to get another one.
But often at times, like Don said, you would just replace a bad tube.
And you're on your wake and watch your favorite TV show again.
We're going to take a quick break.
We're talking to Carol Jean-Forty and Jim Messier,
we're talking about TV in the 50s and 60s.
Just stay with radio.
I'm on the television.
Nothing.
I can learn anything new from TV anyway.
Speaking about timeless.
Carol, not that you guys are older or anything.
Carol, we're talking about timeless rescuing.
And all the things we went on and we're talking about television sets now.
These are TV sets, TV shows from the 50s and 60s.
And we take it for granted now.
This is a big screen TV there, but it wasn't always like that.
Some of the early TV sets had little tiny pictures on it, the size of a tube.
Because that's what they were.
They were just tubes.
They were one big tube.
And people used to gather around that little tiny tube and black and white
and watch some really bad television.
That's not right.
Yeah.
Well, back then, we repaired.
We didn't really throw out our TVs.
Unlike today, of course, that's a different story.
Well, and how we watched them, Jim.
Oh, yes.
As kids, we had no trouble getting on the floor or getting up from the floor.
So we loved the floor.
We loved the floor.
And we weren't sitting on our floors with deep pile carpeting.
It was a wood floor, a very thin carpet.
But we pretty much had our spot on the floor.
That also gave us an advantage because we could creep close to the TV screen.
And that's when our mothers said, you're going to wreck your eyes.
You're going to wreck your eyes by staying too close.
You're going blind.
You're going to wreck your eyes.
My grandma said, you're sitting way too close to TV.
You're going to go blind.
Yes.
Right.
And she was kind of right.
My glasses are kind of thick.
And some people preferred to watch in the evening in the dark.
My husband's grandparents watched always in the dark.
Another thing that occurred about how we watched,
lo and behold, now the dining room or the kitchen table was sometimes forgotten.
Because now we had TV dinners and TV trays.
And if the shows were good enough, sometimes we had to enter that new era
and watch together the one TV that we owned all together in the living room with our TV trays.
Yeah, that's right.
As Carol said, we only had one TV.
So that meant we had to watch pretty much what our parents watched,
whether you liked it or not.
And I think the biggest culprit I think was Lauren Swellke.
Who had to watch Lauren Swellke?
You know, because your parents did.
My mother and father never watched Lauren Swellke in their lives.
When my mom moved to Racine in the last few years of her life,
she found Lauren Swellke on PBS.
And every Saturday night she watched the reruns of Lauren Swellke.
But she never watched them when they were in prime time.
That's right.
But the reruns used to watch all the time.
Now Lauren Swellke actually performed with his orchestra in Lake Geneva.
Oh, yeah.
That's very nice.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
They have a big picture of him connecting an orchestra on the stage at Lake Geneva.
Oh, that's...
He was going down.
He had the champagne lady.
Oh, yeah.
The Lennon sisters.
Yep.
That's right.
Byron Floren, the accordion player.
Byron Floren's got his accordion here.
We got the Lennon sisters coming up next to one and a two.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I hate to watch him.
I know it.
I hate to admit it.
But we still watch him on PBS.
Yeah.
Now that is news.
That is new news.
Yeah.
But some of our favorite kids' TV shows back then, other than cartoons, that could be a whole
separate program.
I think how de Duty might have been the most popular.
That was on Saturday morning.
I don't know what time it was, but it was on from 1947 to 1960.
It just tells you how popular that was.
Well, Buffalo Bob would always ask the question, say kids, what time is it?
And the kids, we were known as the peanut gallery, would say, it's how de Duty time.
And of course, the song would play scary puppets.
Yeah.
Well, you're probably referring to Floppa dub, I think.
No, how de Duty themselves.
Oh, I do.
Scary puppets.
Yes, that's right.
Yeah.
There was also Princess Summer Fall Winter Spring, if you remember her.
But that was a very, very, very popular show.
Clara Bell.
Clara Bell, he never talked.
He never talked.
He never talked.
Except at the very end, the last show.
Yes.
You said, by kids.
Yes, that's great.
Oh, the ending of some of these.
Oh, it's romantic.
Yeah.
That's kind of teary-eyed.
We have very, very much.
So the only time we spoke was by kids.
Oh.
Yes, that's right.
Who remembers Bozo Circus, out of Channel 9, out of Chicago.
That was on weekdays at noon.
And I was told you had to wait years to get on that show.
You're still waiting.
I'm still waiting.
You're on the list.
But he did comedy skits.
He showed the cartoons.
A lot of kids games, of course.
Keep going.
Yeah.
Also Garfield Goose.
Channel 9 at 6 o'clock.
Host Fraser Thomas.
And, of course, Garfield Goose was known as the King of the United States.
And speaking about going back in time.
We're talking to Carol D. and Forty and Jim Messier talking about TV in the 50s and 60s.
Don Bosn is the morning.
WRJN.
My parents went to a white rudder, a water rafting once, after they retired.
And I said, what are you thinking about?
What are you crazy?
You can't swim.
Have you ever been in a boat before?
What are you doing this for?
You have your life insurance up to date?
Well, it wasn't really dangerous.
But they went in one of these raps down the Colorado River.
And were you thinking?
Are you crazy?
You lost your marbles?
Yes.
Is your life insurance up to date, please?
I think you had another story a year ago.
Our month back about your mother on a tobagan.
She was on a sled.
This is back when I was a little kid.
And my father jumped on her.
And she was going down the hill.
And her glasses smashed into her face.
And she still had the scar of her entire life going across the face.
They look dangerously.
We're talking about 50s, 60s TV with Carol D. and Forty and Jim Messier.
And let's continue on.
Okay.
Well, we really had these wonderful TV programs that were gifts to us, I would say.
But what amazes me is how we do remember them.
And not only TV, it's amazing the memories that, as we get older, are still so vivid.
But let's take Ding Dong School, 1952, with Miss Frances, who had actually been a preschool teacher.
I just was looking at the Ding Dong School song and her welcome.
Can I say a matronly type person?
And she began by talking, what have you done this weekend, children?
Very, very intimate with them.
At one time, there were three million viewers of Ding Dong School.
And then she would say at the end, children, go and get your mother's very few who were working.
So the mother's dutifully probably came back to the TV to hear what had happened in this preschool.
Then another preschool that was to teach us etiquette, romper room.
And that was about be a doobie.
So I just listened to romper room.
Did you clean your plate today?
Remember that phrase?
I remember she had a viewer thing.
She used to, this magic dress.
Yes.
And I used to think she could actually see me.
Yes.
And it's to sit on the chair.
I get off, trying to make sure I had food on my face.
So we had a neighbor who was on that show.
One of my neighbors was one of the little girls on the show.
Well, my friend, excuse me, Pat Nielsen.
I still remember is that magic mirror.
That's what it was.
The magic mirror, yeah.
And Pat waited for her picture.
You know, she waited and waited.
I guess she gave up waiting, you know, maybe a couple years ago.
And then we have Kukla, Fran and Ali back to puppets with Fran Allison.
And Oliver was nothing other than Oliver J. Dragon.
Kukla was the leader.
And then one of the very most popular and one of the longest running until
Mr. Rogers, Captain Kangaroo.
And oh, my goodness, he had a big cast of characters.
Remembered like Bunny Rabbit, Mr. Green Jeans, Mr. Moose,
Grandfather Clark, the dancing bear.
He was on for 29 years.
You know, my uncle was the property master.
We called him uncle, but he wasn't a property master for CBS.
And I was on the city one time.
And I was in there and he brought me into the Captain Kangaroo studio.
I should never have gone in there.
Did it burst your bubble, so does it.
The cabinet where the Mr. Bunny was in and all the carrot they were sitting on sticks.
Oh, no.
It was so he's very tiny.
And I said, oh, I should never have flew this room.
Oh, reality.
I know that Rick Bonanno, another friend, is amazing how he remembers this.
Right down to the characters, the pockets, the train day.
So, yes, a gift to us all.
Our foundation that we've all shared.
Well, the weekends were a great time for starting our kids' shows, of course.
We didn't have school back then, of course, and we still don't under weekends.
But we would start our kid shows on Saturday morning by watching Ray Rayner on Channel 9.
And he showed cartoons and very, very entertaining.
But I think my favorite was one called two-ton baker.
And he was a rather large man, very, very funny.
He was dressed as a pirate of all things.
And he was a piano player.
He would lead us in song and games and everything.
But he was great.
I remember him very well.
Following two-ton baker was a program called the Pied Piper, which started at 1230.
And one thing I always remember, there was a bubbler, a waterfall, and that was always running.
And every time he tried to take a drink, of course, it would stop.
And then we all remember Paul Winchell with Jerry Mahoney and Knucklehead, you know, the puppets.
Knucklehead Smith.
Knucklehead Smith.
That's right.
Smith with an app.
Yeah.
Knucklehead Smith.
Smith, yeah.
On Saturday morning, I think.
You know, Paul Winchell did later on.
He went to the artificial heart.
No kidding.
Yeah, that was Paul Winchell did that.
Yeah, he was a quite a versatile man.
Yeah.
He went from Jerry Mahoney to inventing hearts.
Yeah.
He invented the Jarvik Seven Heart.
Oh, my goodness.
He was also the voice of Tigger.
Did you know that?
Oh, no, yeah.
On the Winnie the Pooh thing.
Yes, that's right.
Very versatile.
Yeah.
Well, we were all members of a very, very great club, though.
After school, we rushed home four to five o'clock, the Mickey Mouse Club.
The Mosketeers on all, there were 39 of them, according to my research.
But Jimmy was Jimmy Dodd was the host.
And then we would have roll call.
And each Mosketeer would come forward from that day.
We had a T-shirt or a turtle neck with their name on it.
So we got to know them very, very quickly.
Then we had to sing goodbye when we did get to that point.
And that was its own song.
Now it's time to say goodbye.
But.
You all are family.
M-I-C-K-Y-M-O-U-S-E.
You know, was a Mosketeer later on?
Britney Spears.
Oh, really?
And Justin Timberlake.
Really?
And Ryan, I can't think of the actor's name.
They were all in the Mosketeer club late in the later on series.
But Britney Spears was a Mosketeer.
In her area, she was not born.
That's right.
Yeah.
But Pat Nielsen, again, was reminding me, we all knew it.
A net.
She was perfect.
She was perfection.
And she went out to make all those beach movies.
Yeah, beach movies.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Perfection for a long time.
Right.
Yeah.
The youngest ones were Covey and Karen.
Covey O'Brien was a drummer later on with rock bands.
He went on to that.
And the Karen went on to anything else.
But the Covey O'Brien became a rock and roll drummer.
We're in state of former Mosketeer then.
Yeah.
But Pat, oh, she waited to get a turtleneck with her name on it.
That never happened.
But Pat did get cleats put on her shoes so she could dance along with the Mosketeers.
What I loved were the cereals, spin and marty, and also the hearty boys in the tower treasure.
They were all done so well.
Introduced me to the hearty boys' books right then and there.
And then, continuing with Disney, we had Walt Disney.
The program on Wednesday nights when it began was Wednesday night.
Now, I found out, not talking to any professional, but looking at the internet,
that Walt Disney was ready to launch Disneyland.
And he had been on radio, but he wanted a TV show to promote everyone eventually going to Disneyland.
So this show had four segments, just like the park was going to have.
And we remember Adventureland, Fantasyland, Tomorrowland, and Frontierland.
Well, here's some of the famous Mosketeers.
We got those Justin Timberlake, Christina Aguilera, singer, Britney Spears,
Kerry Russell, the actress, Ryan Gosling, Don Grady.
Remember him from my three sons?
Lisa Wechell from The Facts of Life was a Mosketeer.
Boy, there's a whole list here.
Bobby Burgess, who went on to the...
Oh, well.
Yeah, he was a dancer.
Yeah.
He was on the original.
Yeah, Bobby Burgess.
Yeah.
Johnny Crawford from The Riflemen.
Yeah.
I mean, there was a list of people, Dennis Day, from...
He was one of the people on the show.
Yeah.
A lot of people, Mickey Rooney Jr.
A lot of famous people went on to the show.
Well, in other words, these Mosketeers had a lot of talent.
Young talent.
They were proven later on in life, too, but they were picked well.
Now, I know that in 1955, with Frontierland about Disneyland,
we were introduced to Davey Crackett.
King of the Wild Frontier.
King of the Wild Frontier.
Best Parker.
And the millions of dollars in clothing that was purchased.
Every boy in my third grade class, I think, had a Coonskin cap.
I have one.
I think they could wear them to school, too.
Friends.
Mm-hmm.
But watching it at my neighbor's house,
oh, it was a terrible night when they did portray Davey Crackett
dying at the Eleanor.
Mm-hmm.
That was one of my childhood.
Well, they couldn't change history.
That's right.
Yeah.
Well, they didn't cut it off before his death.
They included it.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, my, guys.
We think we can break Carol G. and Fourtage and Missyra is here.
We're talking about TV shows in the 50s and 60s.
If you grew up really anywhere in America,
but if you grew up in Racine, this is what you saw.
So more with Jimmy Carroll coming up in a moment.
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Jim, Missyra, Carol G. and Fourtage are here talking about TV
from the 50s and 60s.
We're not going to leave Black and White TV today to order color.
That's on another date.
Color is coming.
Yeah, so let's go.
Well, about Walt Disney at that Wednesday night program,
it's amazing what we do remember.
Cindy Marigost remembers even the yellow popcorn bowl
that her mother popcorn for she and her brother
as they watched it from the floor.
Amazing.
Of course, our program wouldn't be complete
until we talk about the Westerns.
This was the guy's thing.
Every boy in town would always have his favorite Westerns
and you had your choice.
We had Wild Bill Hickock with jingles, of course.
Roy Rogers and Dale Evans, the lone ranger,
Wattanto, Jean Ottry, with his sidekick, Pat Buttrom.
And of course, there were so many more.
I'll just read them real fast.
Death Valley days have gun will travel, wagon train,
gun smoke, one of our all-time favorites.
Ren, tin, tin.
Remember that?
That's a good one.
Broken Arrow, hop-along Cassidy.
Sergeant Preston of the Yukon.
And of course, Wyatt Earp.
No, you're leaving my favorite one out?
I still watch it.
What's that?
On TV, I have all the DVDs of the series,
The Life and Legend of Wyatt Earp.
Ah, okay, Wyatt Earp, okay.
Good thing we have you to help us out here.
Wyatt is Wyatt Earp.
And it was even one for the girls.
Right, Carol?
Yeah, Annie Oakley, she was the sharp shooter.
In a town, not on any map, but Diablo Arizona.
Horse target, little brother Tang.
She took care of all the outlaws.
Now, for a highly educational program,
we had, of course, the three stuages.
Now, I used to watch it out of a Milwaukee channel.
It was the Pop's Theater.
And Pop's was dressed as an old usher in an old theater.
And he had, as his guests, in the audience,
cup scouts and boy scouts.
I remember being there with the recene scout
from the Bugle Corps once.
It was really a nice experience.
He was famous for his role and blester
when he started cartoons or to three stuages.
Some guy named Blester, I guess, was responsible for, you know,
doing that.
So that was a famous saying for many, many years.
That's right.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
But who is the rush home from school just to watch the three stuages?
We didn't stop for anything.
We just had our rush home just to watch our three stuages.
Not for like somebody getting cocked off the head
of getting their eyes poked out.
Right.
We're did all this violence come from.
Yeah.
Well, that already brings us to closing our program today,
really.
But next time we are going to continue with the TV shows,
we had one TV.
We had those TV tables.
We had those TV dinners, perhaps.
And we had our family all around one TV in the evening.
And that meant we pretty much watched our parent shows.
But there were tons of them, dragged net,
leave it to beaver, honeymooners, Milton Burrell, so many.
So this is what we're going to do next, Don.
You know, it's funny.
You mentioned leave it to beaver.
When I went on the universal tour, we went to the Libert to Beaver House.
Oh, yeah.
And there's an homage to that in the movie The Burbs with Tom Hanks.
They do it.
They zoom in on the universal logo, the earth,
and they keep going and going.
And the street sign, when they finally get to the street,
it says Mayfield Place, because they filmed the burbs on the street
where the Libert to Beaver House was.
Oh.
And it says Mayfield Place on the side.
Yeah.
And looking forward to December, we're going to ask you
to come shopping with us.
We're going to take a walk down Sixth Street
and visit stores like More Jones for toys,
Ruth Karnes, Georgian Lesters, Mr. Junior,
and so many more.
So start your Christmas shopping with us in another couple of months.
And we have that scary story about Sixth Street.
We can review again.
The haunted building on Sixth Street.
Yeah.
The Blake Opera House.
Bring all your programs together.
Yeah, I'm going to tell you about that stuff.
I want Sixth Street at night again, scared.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And just a real fast year Carol has a fast story too.
When my wife got her first color TV as a kid,
she told everybody in the neighborhood that we're going to get a color TV,
the first kid on the block.
So when the delivery truck came, every kid in the neighborhood was there
watching it being unloaded.
And then when they turned it on, all the kids,
all you could see in the front window was just hands and noses.
Watching something new, a color TV,
like you were talking about, Don, it's really something.
Well, and then about mine,
mine goes back, my personal story goes back to watching TV,
watching Disneyland.
My parents, we didn't have a TV yet.
So it was really major when we finally got one.
So.
And your book, you mentioned how you get it.
Your father drove halfway across the state.
Yes, to a trusted boyhood friend to tell us what to do about buying a TV.
A thousand miles away.
He even came from Jefferson, Wisconsin to check out what our needs were.
But anyway, I would walk two houses down to Jackie Olson's, my friend.
She lived upstairs of her grandma.
And I was thrilled to go to watch Disneyland.
So I can never could tell my parents how scary it got.
Cold, dark.
I'd go to her back door.
I'd have to walk up this creepy, creaky stairway above her grandma.
But suddenly the door would be open.
The three Olson kids would be on the floor.
I would join them.
And there was Tinkerbell, just like Cindy Marigold said.
Tinkerbell floating across the screen.
Walt Disney welcoming us.
Always good.
Wow.
You know, my brother could probably relate to more of the 50 shows than I can.
But even the Liberty Beaver shows, I got to meet Tony Dow once.
No kidding.
The strangest story.
I worked at a radio station on Long Island.
There was a bar across the street.
Tony Dow was doing a soap opera in New York City at the time.
He was a guest star.
So he was in the bar.
And the bartender who I don't drink, but I was there, you know, across the street.
And he said, I want you to eat somebody.
Tony Dow is Don Rosen from the radio station across the street.
And I got to meet Tony Dow.
And I said, it's really wildly clever right in front of me here.
And he's just doing it.
He was just there visiting a friend.
And I said, wow.
And then I got to correspond with Jerry Mathers on Facebook once.
And I said, wow.
The beef.
You know, you meet these people from your childhood.
And I said, wow.
You've had a very fortunate life done.
Why, because I met Tony Dow.
I talked to the beer.
Yes.
It's truly unfortunate.
Yeah.
Remember Eddie.
He was my favorite.
He has to go, yeah.
People still talk about him.
Yeah.
They still compare people to be.
They ask, Livia, if you're a con artist.
Jesus Cleaver, you look very nice.
You're very nice.
You keep a very nice house.
Hey, well, I come to your mother's let's make it.
Do it.
Or he'll miss something.
Oh, you know, we want Bieber to be with us on our trip
to the to the amusement park as we think the older boys
to carry the young boys and teach them the ways
that she leaves the room.
And we have to take this court with us.
He became a police officer.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
He was he had a great career.
And he just he never did any other television,
except the new lead to beaver and still to be.
Yeah.
But that was his career.
Well, he was type cast.
Jim is here.
Carol June 14.
We'll be back again in November and December.
