Pope, that's a weird job, huh?
Anyone Pope here?
Pope never goes out.
Wouldn't it have been weird to go to high school with the Pope?
You know, somebody did, somebody sit at home watching TV
and polling, they see the Pope, they're like,
that guy was a jerk.
He was so mean to me, and now he's Pope.
I got a swirly from the Pope.
I think it'd be great if you had a kid that ended up being Pope.
They're over the ultimate, Brian Rites.
Oh, your son's a doctor?
The artist is Pope.
You guys okay for him?
Oh, they have a house, he has his own city.
It's in Europe.
Do you think when the Pope was a little kid,
he fantasized about eventually becoming Pope?
You know, like, we might have been a professional athlete.
Was he like eight years old in his backyard going,
there he is, a leader of all the cabbage.
The Pope, the best Pope ever.
The Protestants are frightened of this new Pope.
It ain't no use to sit and wonder why be.
If you don't know by now,
when the poster grows at the break of dawn,
look out you window, and I'll be gone.
You're the reason I'm traveling on.
You don't think twice, and you're the reason I'm traveling on.
You don't think twice, and you're the reason I'm traveling on.
You don't think twice, it's all right.
It ain't no use in turning on your light, babe.
That I never knew.
It ain't no use in turning on your light, babe.
I'm on the dark side of the road.
Still, I wish there was something you would do or say
to try and make me change my mind and stay.
We never did too much talking anyway.
So don't think twice, it's all right.
I'm walking down that long, long, some road bane
where I'm bound and I can't tell.
But goodbye is too good a word down.
So I'll just say fairly well.
I ain't saying you treated me unkind.
You could have done better, but I don't mind.
You just sort of wasted my precious time.
I don't think twice, it's all right.
It ain't no use in calling out my name down.
Like you never did before.
It ain't no use in calling out my name down.
I can't hear you anymore.
I'm a thinkin' and a wonderin' all the way down the road.
I once loved a woman, a child I'm told.
I gave her my heart, but she wanted my soul.
Don't think twice, it's all right.
Don't you love that song?
I love everything Peter Paul and Mary does.
I never get tired of listening to Peter Paul and Mary.
Don't think twice, it's all right.
Who wrote that song?
Hmm, I can do a roadhead.
What's the problem?
Dillon to wrote that song?
I gotta look that up.
Who wrote that song?
Anyway, I tried to look it up, but it didn't take.
I just stuck my nose out the door.
It's just breathing that beautiful morning air.
The sun is up.
It's sunny out there.
Gorgeous 45 degrees.
The birds are chirping.
And also, that woodpecker that I heard yesterday,
he's still out there.
He's really going at it.
He's here!
He's here!
He's here!
He's here!
He's here!
He's here!
He's here!
He's here!
He's here!
He's here!
He's here!
He's here!
He's here!
Yeah, that's he's out there!
Woodpecker!
He's really going at it.
I don't know how hard they do that.
I mean, he's really...
I don't know if he's doing it to somebody's house.
Somebody's head.
Or he's doing it on the telephone pole or a tree.
I don't know what he's doing, but he's out there.
All right.
I did look at Bob Dylan Road.
I don't think twice it's all right.
Bob Dylan Road, a whole bunch of great stuff.
He's saying it, but he gave it to Peter Paul and Mary to do as well.
It's 7-11 WRGN Radio.
Thank you for joining me.
I'm Don Rosen.
It's gonna be a beautiful day.
Today's sunny with the high in the 60s.
Cloudy chance of showers tonight.
Lows 44.
Showers tomorrow with a high near 51.
But for the weekend, sunny on Saturday and Sunday with the high both days and the 60s,
right now, sunny, beautiful, gorgeous, 45 degrees.
And I am going to put the snow shovel away.
I know I shouldn't do it.
It's leaning up against the the back gate.
I'm going to put it away.
I'm going to take that risk.
If I put it away, we won't get any more snow.
I think we're done with the snow.
Of course, it snowed last week.
So, but I think we're done with it.
We've got the broer is taking on the Cincinnati Reds 505 on WRGN this afternoon.
Be here for that.
Maggie Don's going to join us.
Maggie's got some background.
She's an attorney.
She was responsible for a billion dollar compensation fund in Milwaukee.
I got to talk to her about all that stuff.
Yeah, you hear her on the radio, but you know her background.
So Maggie Don's going to join us 730 this morning at WRGN.
If you have a text message you want to send to me, you can do it.
262-300-7445 or download the Civic Media app.
You can do everything on the Civic Media app.
If you download that app and then everything else is really easy after that.
You can check out our podcast.
You can list to us live.
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And you can also send a text message.
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If you download the app, you don't have to worry about the phone number 262-300-7445
or download the Civic Media app.
All right, fake five star reviews are a very real thing.
But now the FTC is taking them making them illegal with huge fines for sellers.
Up to $50,000 for each fake review and every time a customer sees it.
How do they enforce that?
They're supposed to be charging thousands of dollars to people who do those fake phone calls to you.
The telemarketers, they were supposed to do that too.
I don't think they do that.
They threaten them, but I don't think they find them.
Be happy you don't live down south.
A couple of Louisiana surprised in the middle of the night by a five foot alligator.
The alligator snuck in through a doggy door.
Wow, imagine waking up going for a glass of water in the middle of the night.
Whoa, look who's in the kitchen and the hiss.
They go, and they're fast.
You think alligators would be slow, but they're not.
They're fast.
That's why I don't want to live down south.
All right, some wedding customers are out.
Wedding customs are outdated.
Here's what they claim the bride not being seen before the wedding.
Hmm, I didn't see my bride before the wedding.
How about the bride's parents paying for it?
If that's outdated, tell me about it because I put a big chunk of money to my daughter's wedding.
How about some new traditions?
They include non-white wedding gowns.
I don't know how I got started on watching say yes to the dress.
Remember that show that used to be on say yes to the dress?
I started watching that.
And there were brides getting married in black wedding gowns.
Blue, red, all different kinds.
So yeah, I guess it's pretty normal out there.
Put your phone on mute or do not disturb to avoid distractions.
A new study found it might actually do just the opposite.
It might just attract 138 iPhone users for four days with their permission.
The ones who set their phones to silent actually checked it more often
and experienced more phone related stress because now you got to check it
because I didn't hear it.
Did anybody try to call?
Yeah.
Well, we got down on one need to propose to her boyfriend at a music festival in England.
He got down on one need at the same time, proposed to her.
It turns out both of them had the same idea.
They had rings had planted, proposed to each other on the same day.
Odd, the true.
This is for fans of Star Wars and George Lucas's early drafts of the Empire Strikes Back.
Yoda was named Buffy.
Yeah.
Doesn't sound right.
Does it?
Buffy.
Yeah, it's kind of a Yoda.
It's funny because occasionally we will see like we saw the Godfather of the day
at the Renaissance theater Godfather was showing.
And I was telling my wife, Danny Thomas wanted the role of the Godfather before Marlon Brando got it.
And I said, I can't imagine Danny Thomas in there.
So you can't imagine it because you know Marlon Brando was the Godfather and he did it so well.
I said, no, I know Danny Thomas.
I can't picture as the Godfather.
I just did.
No, it doesn't work.
You know, Marlon Brando is the Godfather.
Same thing with Al Pacino.
You know, the original actor was they wanted Paramount Pictures wanted Robert Redford from Michael Corleone.
I can't picture him.
First of all, he doesn't let him to look Italian.
Al Pacino looks Italian.
So I wouldn't buy it.
But Robert Redford as Michael Corleone.
See, we only know Al Pacino as Michael Corleone.
So it wouldn't work.
A survey has people what streaming services they would keep if they can only keep one.
Netflix came out on top followed by Max and then Hulu, worth plays Disney Plus, Amazon, Paramount, Apple TV Plus,
and Italian eighth place between Discovery Plus and Peacock.
But those change all the time, depending on what shows these networks have.
But Netflix, number one, the Netflix started as a DVD delivery service.
So they started their company and I had that for years until last year when they discontinued it.
And I got my DVD somewhere else now.
Here's a word question for you.
Well, it was the last time you wrote something down with a pen and paper or pen and pencil.
Would you believe some of us never do anymore?
A poll found 3% of us have never written anything down in over a year.
Eight percent say only a few times a year.
Hopefully one in nine people use a pen and pencil less than once a month now.
I do it every day here.
I write things down a road there.
I write the weather forecast down on a piece of paper.
I write the who's playing in our sports scores sports later on of the day.
I also have a checklist.
I do every morning.
I write down.
I still use a pen.
I do it on my phone too.
All my appointments are on there.
I also list stuff on my phone.
I don't like it to do list.
But you know, you still need a pen and pencil and paper, don't you?
All right.
Odd but true.
Even a nuclear apocalypse won't get you out of paying your taxes.
The IRS manual has policies in place for collecting taxes after a nuclear war.
Mostly about shifting their focus to people in areas that weren't totally bombed out.
So if you're if you're got your counters clicking off that you're infected with, you know, nuclear waste.
You still got to pay your taxes.
17 W R J and Maggie Don coming up at the bottom of the hour.
We'll talk to Maggie.
She has her show on W R J and two to four p.m.
But she's much more than a radio host.
So we'll talk to Maggie coming up.
Don't forget it's going to be a beautiful day.
Get out and enjoy it.
Highs in the sixties right now.
Sunny in 45 degrees in Racine.
I'm Don Rosen at W R J and hometown radio refresh to civic media station.
You've got to make the morning last just kicking down the cobblestone.
Looking for fun and feeling improving.
Hello Lappers.
Whatcha know man.
I come to watch your flowers grow and
ain't you got no rhymes for me.
Do it, do, do, feel improving.
Groovy.
Groovy.
Groovy.
Groovy.
I've got no peace to do.
Process to keep.
Baffled and bouncy and ready to sleep at the morning.
I'm proud of all the tens of me.
Life I love you always grew me.
Ba-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na.
Something like Garfong will add a hit with that.
But first was Harper's Bizarre.
That was their only hit song.
The 59th Street Bridge song, feeling groovy.
59th Street Bridge obviously had Manhattan in New York City.
I've been over that bridge many times.
I never felt groovy going over it though.
I felt okay once I got to the other side, but I never felt groovy.
Oh, no down.
It moved too fast.
We got to make the morning last just kicking down.
Cowboys gone.
Looking fun and feeling groovy.
There's a word that's not in our vocabulary anymore.
What if I have another word?
I was great.
People say, hey, man, that's groovy.
How did we stop using that?
What year did that fall out of favor, groovy?
When I was in college in high school, we used to use it all the time.
And we were groovy.
Hey, it's groovy.
All the time, we can't use it anymore.
When I watch old TV shows from the 60s and 70s,
I watch the TV show The Odd Couple.
I love that show.
And there were groovies in there a few times.
What do you don't see about the movies?
Like the trip with Peter Fondet, Susan Strasberg.
Remember that movie?
The trip.
I got easy rider.
I got all those angels movies.
Yeah, they groovies in there a lot.
You see these big tough hells angels guy.
Oh, man, that's groovy.
No, it seems so wimpy.
All right.
Get to be a beautiful day today.
Sun Shiny with the high of the 60s right now.
Sunny in 45 degrees and recene 723 at WRJN.
I'm Don Rosen.
We're at 1400 AM 99.9 FM and 98.1 FM in Kenosha.
Well, here's another lesson on securing online domains.
The state of Maryland has 800,000 people driving around,
advertising a gambling website in the Philippines for free
on their license plates.
The domain star spangled 200 dot org.
That was originally affiliated with a nonprofit to raise money
for bicentennial projects and events.
But these stopped paying for the domain name or gave it up.
In any case, an opportunistic gambling website had nothing to do
with the American patriotism snagged it.
So now people are driving around the state of Maryland
with that Philippines gambling website of their license plate.
Yeah, star spangled 200 dot org.
I bet true news.
A convenience store worker helped her boss learn how to use
surveillance cameras just in time too.
Because later they caught her stealing by those same cameras
she taught her boss to use.
You know what I would say if I was caught?
Hey, I was just testing out.
See, I just wanted to see if you can figure it out.
See?
All right, you can figure it out now.
Call the cops off.
Fun facts.
Billboards are banned in the state of Vermont.
And they have been so since 1968.
Hurricanes with female names killed twice as many people
as hurricanes with male names.
And a can of Coca-Cola is 90% water.
However, a can of diet coke is 99% water.
Looking for a fight with the games begin one out of nine people
have seen a physical fight breakout over a board game.
And the games that start the most fights monopoly,
Uno, sorry, Scrabble and Jenga.
The most common things that cause board game fights are someone
quitting because they're losing.
In other words, a sore loser or using someone else of cheating.
There was a funny picture somebody posted once.
I guess it was around Thanksgiving time when the families come over.
And it showed a monopoly game board laying on the ground
with all the money in the hotels and the houses laying all over the place.
And it said, the family was over for Thanksgiving.
That's so true.
Someone's always accused of cheating.
That's why I was never wanted to be the banker.
Because that was the two cues you were cheating.
Wait a second, you took a hundred dollars out for yourself.
No, I didn't want that.
Hey, looking for your name for your new born daughter.
All right, Karen's might be on the brink of extinction.
Only 325 babies named Karen were born in the US recently.
And now it's the 831st most popular name for a girl.
That's the lowest since 1927.
And then Karen has become synonymous with a stigma.
A derogatory sense.
The name has been falling in popularity for a while, though,
even before the whole Karen thing started.
The lady at my ENT doctor, your nose and throat doctor,
her name at the front desk is Karen.
And the first time I met her, I said, your name's Karen.
I said, you have trouble with that name?
She goes, not until recently, I didn't Karen.
Wow.
How do you act in public with your sweetheart?
People who are asked to rank the most annoying and uncomfortable types of PDA.
PDAs are public displays of affection.
Atop 10 include openly making out in public,
talking with baby voice, oh, you do a sweetie.
One person sitting on the other person's lap
and staring deep into the other person's eyes.
I don't mind that.
You know, groping in public, you know, make me feel a little uncomfortable.
Maybe kiss somebody.
I mean, if you're going for those passionate, you know,
really passionate kisses in public.
No, double peck on the lips is okay.
But, you know, the make out session like you're in the passion pit
at a driving movie theater and you're really just sitting there in a restaurant.
No, I don't go for that.
I put true.
A woman in the Philippines ordered some fried chicken from a fast food place.
And one of the pieces turned out to be a deep fried dish towel.
Cops in Washington DC found a woman's stolen car
and watched.
She was waiting for it to be towed to her house.
I want to stole it again.
An annual study found the best cities for her staycation are.
Honolulu and Orlando.
Do.
Of course there.
If I lived in Honolulu, I do a staycation as well.
Yeah.
Orlando as well.
You know, my, uh, my first, um,
a heart doctor.
What?
So I'm a cardiologist.
He was the guy who first told me you're dying.
If you don't get your heart fixed.
So he eventually retired and moved to Orlando.
And I said, what is he?
Work or work in the rollercoaster or Disney world down there?
Why would he retire there?
What's the purpose?
All right.
A kid in Minnesota asked for a Lion King cake for his third birthday.
Get this.
Specifically, the scene where Simba's dad falls off a cliff and dies.
Kind of interesting request, right?
All right.
But there's a, uh, motive here.
She said she wanted it like that because everyone at her party
would feel too sad to eat it and she would get the whole cake for herself.
Smart kid.
That kid's going to be a success someday.
The kid is the little kid.
All right.
I like that.
A study found it's safe for your heart.
If you drink it up seam line of coffee on a daily basis for searches found,
people could drink up to 25 cups a day without having any extra risk of hardening
of their arteries and having a stroke or heart attack.
Is the thought of 25 cups, huh?
Wow.
All right.
729.
WRJN Radio.
Maggie Don coming up at just a few moments here.
We're going to talk to Maggie.
And although you hear on the radio here at 2 to 4 p.m. on WRJN,
just got an interesting background.
We'll talk to Ms. Don coming up in just a few moments.
Sunny, today with the high in the 60s right now at Sunny in 45 degrees out.
Gorgeous, beautiful morning and received.
I have two daughters, 16 and 19.
So my life is pretty much just pure bliss at this point.
The 16-year-old thinks I'm an idiot and the 19-year-old knows I'm an idiot.
It's a progression.
The one good thing about having teenagers is you can speak to them in complete sentences.
When they were small, they're only going to hear the first three words you say when they're little.
So you got to talk in those idiotic three-word parent sentences all day.
Hey, hey, hey!
Stop that now.
Stop it now.
I said now.
Yes, you will.
Yes, I will.
Yes, we will.
Turn it off.
Turn it down.
Turn it off.
Shut the door.
Shut the fridge.
Shut your face.
Go to sleep.
Clean your plate.
Have a bath.
Pick it up.
Put it down.
Don't touch that.
I said no.
No, I said what I say.
Say that again.
I dare you.
I hate you.
I hate you.
I hate you.
He said something interesting.
He said.
He wrote the music for the lion king.
I'm not the lion king.
What was it?
It was the movie Tarzan.
He wrote the music for the movie Tarzan.
The Disney animated film.
So when they brought it to Broadway, they said we're going to use the songs.
And he said, yeah, yeah, just use them.
He said, no, no, no, no.
We have to rewrite those songs for Broadway.
He said, what do you mean?
He said, you're using them from the movie.
He said, no, it doesn't work that way on Broadway.
We've got to rewrite them.
He thought it would just go transfer the songs over.
He had to rewrite all those songs for Broadway.
He had 737 WRJN, I'm Don Rosen.
And with me is Maggie Don, host of the Maggie Don Show, 2 to 4 p.m.
right here on WRJN and the Civic Media Network.
Good morning Maggie.
Hey Don, really great to be with you.
Yeah.
So what made you get into radio?
Well, it's a long saga, but the root of it, the quick version,
the elevator speech version, is that when Sage asked me this past holiday time,
I really felt like if there was any time to get on radio,
it was this year considering the importance of everything that's going on.
And it was simply an opportunity that I couldn't say no to.
Now that perhaps the more self-aware version was someone offered me money
to say what I think on the radio and give my opinion,
which sounded pretty much like a dream job, so I had to say yes.
It sounds like the Godfather.
Somebody may be an offer I couldn't refuse.
Good refuse.
Yes.
Absolutely.
Sage Wilde, the Godfather.
Sage Wilde, of course, the owner of the company's Civic Media,
she's talking about.
But you have a really great background because you're an attorney.
Thank you.
And you worked for the City of Milwaukee,
and you were in charge of a billion dollar compensation fund.
Am I right?
Yeah.
So I spent a number of years working on Wall Street as a corporate lawyer,
and then more or less Don burned out doing that figured I should use my superpowers for good.
And so what better way to do that than to come back home to my hometown Milwaukee
and work for the City of Milwaukee?
I worked in their City Attorney's Office.
Did a lot of advising of their pension plan,
as well as some of their other financially focused litigation that would come up.
And eventually was asked to take over their 401k style plan.
Now in the public sector, it's not a 401k.
It's either a 403B if you're a teacher or a 457 plan.
And we've gotten into the internal revenue code and everyone's tuning out.
But I joke.
So I helped them with their 401k plan,
which was just under a billion dollar retirement plan,
which was really a great privilege to serve my fellow employees in that way.
Once I was in charge of code for the children here at the radio station,
and we had $100 left in the fund, and I had to go spend it,
you know, different clothing for needy children.
And I thought that was a major,
you're leaving me $100 to deal with?
Am I going to deal with $100?
And you had a billion.
And I was sweating at $100.
Well, of course, helped out by a wonderful board of trustees
who also were each one and then collectively my boss.
So I wasn't going to be making any mistakes that they wouldn't catch.
I have to ask you some attorney questions.
My uncle, my uncle was an attorney in New York City,
and he was for years and years and years, but he's up there now.
So some of the questions I ask him kind of go right through his years,
and out the other side, I should have talked to him more
when he was in his prime working in the city.
But I watch a lot of date line shows.
I watch a lot of the 2020s.
And I know everybody's entitled to a defense.
I know that.
And every lawyer's job is to defend their client the best they can.
I know that.
But when you know your client is guilty of a crime like murder or child abuse
or something like that, how do you defend that?
How do you make up a story in court and try to blame somebody else for it?
When you know your client is guilty.
Now, my uncle said to me,
you're not required to defend anybody.
I mean, you can bail on those things.
I think your client's guilty of murder.
You can say, listen, I have a conscience.
And I can't, in conscience, let this guy go free on the streets.
But there are attorneys who will take those cases.
And they'll say their client didn't do it.
He didn't, there's no way.
And yet later on his client will confess.
And say, yeah, I did it.
Here's where the body's buried.
But you never hear that attorney come back and begin to view it again after that.
So have you ever been involved in anything like that?
Well, you know, it's wrong or how do attorneys handle that in their heads?
Yes, so there's a whole lot going on in that question.
First, I have never practiced criminal law.
I have no stomach for it.
So nope, I've never been in that situation myself.
But when you look at, I think the situation that you've described
is likely rarer than you may think.
In other words, a truly egregious crime
that the defendant readily admits to,
to at least his or her lawyer.
And then the lawyer can cocks some sort of defense.
In reality, if a lawyer knows something to be untrue,
they should not actually be presenting it in court.
And so most of the time, defense lawyers will tell their clients,
I don't, don't tell me that.
I need to be able to defend you and I cannot knowingly present false facts
or make an argument based on false facts in court.
And so what you will see in those instances
where it's very clear to a lawyer that it seems to him or her
that the client did the crime is that they will effectively test
the evidence being presented by the prosecution,
which is what makes our criminal justice system function.
It doesn't work well most cases, but it functions.
And this is the system that we've got.
And so testing the state's presentation of evidence to be sure
that that presentation meets a standard of beyond a reasonable bout
is whatever person in this country is constitutionally guaranteed.
So the defense attorneys in that frame serve a really important purpose.
I often say it's my personal opinion.
The criminal defense lawyer that knows their client is guilty as sin
presents false facts and makes false arguments should be disbarred.
It's the same argument that I've made on my show about some of the lawyers
that participated and got themselves involved with election denialism.
When you know something to be false, you should not be arguing in court.
When you know that there's no evidence to support it,
you should not be arguing in court.
And so I think that those lawyers have really failed their oath that they take
in each state's bar to protect and defend the constitution.
And it's just very broadly done. I'll say this.
Every single lawyer, it doesn't matter who your boss is or who your client is,
is individually required to meet the standards of practice
and to fulfill their oath, which basically in every state's bar includes
some kind of moral perpetude language,
which is fancy lawyers speak for.
Don't do, knowingly, do the wrong thing.
Don't lie, right? Don't misrepresent things.
Don't misrepresent the law. Don't make fake arguments.
Don't make arguments based on in-answer it or made up facts.
And every lawyer, I would promise you at some point in their career,
has had that tested.
I certainly did, and it's one of the reasons that I left large corporate law.
I could not, at a certain point, trust some of the people that I worked with.
I felt like I was put in some very uncomfortable position.
I declined to do what I was asked to do.
And as a result, frankly, I knew that I wasn't going to make equity partner at that law firm,
and it was time for me to go.
I can listen to you all day talk about this.
This is, this fascinates me because I'm...
I'm fascinated by date line in 2020.
All these crime shows, the true crime.
I'm fascinated by this stuff.
You know, my wife and I saw the Godfather in the movie theater the other day.
They showed up at the Marcus Renaissance.
And there's...
Oh, I love that.
We know all the dialogue from it.
So, you know, it's just fun watching it again on the big screen.
But there's a scene in there where Michael Corleone,
he murders the police officer and Salato in that Bronx eatery.
And they ship him off to Sicily to get him out of New York for a while.
And his girlfriend, Kay, played by Diane Keaton, wants to know where he is.
So she goes up to Robert Duvall who plays Tom Hagen, the family attorney,
and says, I have this letter for him.
And he says, I can't accept that letter because a court would say,
if I accept that, I know where he is.
I thought that was...
Wow!
You're right.
You can't accept that letter because the court would say,
well, if you accepted that letter, then you must know where he is.
And so he couldn't accept it.
Yeah.
That was brilliant.
I just...
Whoa!
Yes, which speaks to this point...
The point that I was making that a lawyer cannot go in and offer,
well, my client didn't do it.
There's other guy killed so-and-so.
If he knows, he or she knows that to be false.
That, those are the bounds, the bindings, the oaths that lawyers take.
Now, one of the reasons that I think lawyers oftentimes are held in low esteem,
by people, is because they can think of examples where someone was very guilty
and yet they had this slick lawyer defending them.
And I also think what we've just experienced collectively as a country,
you see lawyers, straight, basically, making some pretty absurd arguments
that had no purchase, right?
That had no purchase, no precedent to support them.
No, I'm getting to that.
Well, all the Trump trials growing on...
I don't know how this guy doesn't take value of it at night before he goes to sleep, Trump.
If I think there's one person upset with me in this world, I can't sleep at night.
This guy's got 91 indictments against him.
Holy mackerel, how do you go to sleep at night and, you know,
close your eyes and wake up feeling refreshed in the morning.
We're going to have to take a break in a moment.
Let's get started on this.
So Donald Trump has all these lawyers and they're...
I believe their goal is not to defend them.
It's to delay the trials.
Just keep delaying them on and on and on.
And hopefully he'll be president and he can make them go away.
Well, there's going to come a point and they're doing it now with the Stormy Daniels trial.
The judge says enough.
We're picking the law...
We're picking the jury in five more days from now and the trial's going on.
You can appeal it all you want, but the trial's going to go on.
So I think they're at the end of the line with that one.
I think they're out of the lay tactics.
But that's who those lawyers are doing.
Delay, delay, delay.
Well, and as we all know the saying, justice delayed is justice denied.
And so to here, when Judge Aileen Tannen,
which is the federal Trump appointed judge that's overseeing the Mar-a-Lago documents case,
began embracing some of the delayed tactics that Trump's lawyers had engaged in that case.
It was very concerning to me.
Now, it's happening in all of his federal cases as well as the state cases.
But the reason that that case was particularly disturbing to me is because it truly is the most straightforward case.
Every single one of us can understand that, yeah, you probably shouldn't have the nation's war plan
sitting in your golden, gilded bathroom at your resort property.
You know, imagine going to your friend's lake property up in, you know, devil's lake.
You go to use the loo.
Oh, and there are some top secret documents.
Yes, this is not how we protect our country's most important secrets.
Well, some people, some people have magazines in their bathrooms.
You just have to have top secret documents so you can read it while you're sitting there.
Hold on a sec.
It's truly perfect reading, yes.
Relax for a few minutes.
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And we're talking, I just, Maggie is an attorney and I just have a million questions for her.
And I, you can listen to her every afternoon but I want these questions answered right now.
So we're talking about all these, how many lawyers do you think Donald Trump has?
I see those two people sitting with him in the courtroom when he was going through the,
the $500 million one where he got charged $5 a quarter, a half a billion dollars.
And where the, where the judge had to tell his lawyer now is when you stand attorney Hava.
Yeah, that, that trial.
Yes.
No, there's a, the woman on his left and there's a guy on his right.
Now those are not because there were different attorneys.
So how many different attorneys is this guy paying off?
I mean, he's got to, he's got to cost him a four, actually it's costing his, his constituents,
the people who want to see him in office.
They're actually paying the attorney bills.
So how many attorneys does this guy have?
Well, I have to, of course, first observe that as you were describing that,
the musical line, Joker's to the left of me comes to the right here.
I am stuck in the middle with you certainly popped mind, but my guess in a very serious response to your question
is probably at any given point in time across all of the cases that are proceeding.
You've got the New York Attorney General case with Heisha James.
You have the Alvin Bragg bribery payoff lie about it,
campaign finance criminal case in Manhattan court.
You have the Florida documents case.
You have the Jack Smith Washington D.C. in the direction case,
and then you have the sprawling state law-based RICO dial conspiracy case in Georgia.
That is a lot.
My guess is that at any one time across the various lawyers and law firms,
you probably have easily over a hundred, maybe close to 150, lawyers.
And then I'd add, you know, maybe 20 to maybe 40,
parolegals, and other paroperfessional.
I mean, it's a huge, but here's the thing.
And when I moved into the public sector and was representing the city of Milwaukee and Milwaukee County,
I used to joke all the time because sometimes I would find myself at opposite sides of council table
from fancy corporate lawyers, and I used to be one, right?
I used to always say, it's not the number of lawyers, it's the quality of the lawyer.
And I think what you've seen for Donald Trump, as well as Rudy Giuliani,
who stopped paying his...
Many of these folks, these aren't the cream of the crop anymore.
Most lawyers have started to basically, especially the very good ones,
view representing Donald Trump as kryptonite.
The ones that are willing to take some of this work are those that frankly are...
seem to me to be a bit famed-seeking, and think this might be their big jackpot day.
And hence you see some of the buffoonery that transpired in the New York Attorney General corporate fraud case.
I mean, Alina Haaba was just an absolute embarrassment.
Any other lawyer would basically be afraid to show their face ever again in a courtroom.
But we're through the looking glass of wee bit here.
That apparently resulted in her bikini shops on Instagram,
which works for the former president apparently.
I mean, not the volume of the lawyers, the quality,
and I think he's got a slight quality control problem now.
I like the value called him kryptonite, the old Superman.
Oh yes, indeed.
Superman's power is taking away.
Two quick things for you.
First of all, Alan Weiselberg, I heard, is going back to Reikers Island for three months.
He was the head of the Trump Organization there, finance guy.
Now, he would rather spend three months at Reikers Island,
for people that don't know Reikers Island in New York.
It's not a pleasant place to be.
This is not a country club prison.
This is where the hardest of the hardest criminals wind up in New York at Reikers Island.
It's really bad.
And he would rather go to three months than testify against his boss.
All these people are going to prison rather than turn evidence against Donald Trump.
I don't get that.
Now, the other one I would do.
Well, he actually, yeah, just very briefly, Alan Weiselberg did testify against Trump, but he lied.
Right, he lied.
That's why he's going back to Reikers.
He's already spent some time there.
By the way, Reikers Island, there's basically a lawsuit a minute coming out of the treatment
and the conditions at Reikers Island.
New York City just settled the case, I think, for a historically somewhere north of maybe $12 million
for a guy that tried to hang himself while Reikers Island guards watched him do it.
He hung there and now has permanent brain damage.
That gives you a flavor of what's going on at Reikers Island.
Yeah, this is not a country club.
The other one is, I said to my brother the other day, we only have a minute here, but I got to get this answer from you.
Let's say Donald Trump is found guilty in these criminal cases.
Are they really going to send him to prison?
I mean, are they really going to send the former president behind bars?
My brother said, well, some of these cases, they don't have a choice of judge.
They got to go to prison.
Are they going to ever send this guy to prison?
Your brother is exactly right.
Here is why I'm disturbed by the fact that it's only the Hush 20 case that seems likely to be heard before the election.
That one is the least likely to produce a prison or jail term.
And the biggest point here, not as just we understand the thing, just as delayed as just as denied.
But the American people, especially if you believe Mr. Trump is innocent, deserve to hear the evidence presented against him and tested in a court of law.
And all of these judges, especially Elaine Cannon and Florida, that are denying us all our right.
BD trials work both for the defendant and for the public so that we can see that evidence tested.
It is a damn shame.
Yeah, I just, I don't know if the, my brother said they have no choice that he's got to go to prison.
I can't picture it, but we never know.
Maggie, you got to come back.
This wasn't enough.
I need to do a whole weekend with you alive on the air, even though I don't work weekends here.
I got a, what we, I'll tell you what, we're going to cancel the brewers game this afternoon at 505.
I got three hours with it.
Maggie, thank you.
Don't do that.
I hate you for that.
Maggie, thank you very much.
Maggie Don, host of the Maggie Don show to the 4 p.m.
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