The Don Rosen Show (Hour 2)

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The Don Rosen Show (Hour 2)

The Don Rosen Show · Tue Mar 26, 2024

So I need more money so that the other night some guy goes money can't buy you

happiness like to do my own research on that someone's always got to say that

though I don't know if it's just self-righteous or whatever. Let me can't buy you

happy money can't buy you happiness okay but can I be sad in a nicer

apartment that's what I want to be sad in a night I have a tiny apartment and

and you've got to walk five flights of stairs to get to it. Yes five flights

of stairs to get to a tiny apartment so it's exhausting. It's like taking a

really long hawk bus trip to Denny's.

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that. It was not the right one. Oh no. I had to stop it. Not the right one. All right.

Did he slot with us here? And we're talking about a whole bunch of things. You've

got some local news stories you're working on. I'm going to get your opinion

and some of the national stuff going on. And there's something with the

Associated Press has been the bastion of news gathering for years. And now some

big news organizations are saying goodbye to the Associated Press. What's

that about? That's a good question. That is a very good question. Okay so

next. We're seeing county I for people that are familiar with it and I believe a lot

of people are but some people ain't not be want to back step on that a little bit. Give

us a little deal on that. What's going on? Absolutely. So I own the I'm Denise Lockwood.

I own the Racine County I news website. I've been a journalist for 25 years. Started

the news website back in 2013 after my editors told me it's a journalism. The industry

has been really wonky for a really long time. I mean when you look statistically across

the United States 80% of the newsrooms that existed in 2008 are gone. And so a lot of

us who got laid off over time were just like well we'll start our own thing. They

think and so what that's what we did is as I started the news website with Heather

Ossiambi, my partner in crime. She was the Mount Pleasant Strait of an patch editor.

I was formerly the Caledonia patch. Yeah, technically it's owned by a venture

capital group which has all sorts of other feelings across the industry. So there's been

some interesting things going on around that that would probably make paint drawing a

little more interesting but from a journalistic. It was very big and we started we started

the patch websites here Heather and I did and we really enjoyed our time at patch so much

so that we started a company together in 2013 and then Heather's like hey so this full

time day job, night time, racing county eye job, I'm going to need to tap out for a while

but she came back. She came back a few years ago and so I've got a staff of so I've got

four people on payroll and then I've got another five. I just hired a sixth person

to start really helping us fill out a lot more political coverage because we're kind of

doubling what we are doubling down on like really strong issue oriented pieces and really

covering politics in a better way than you know is viable for a lot of news organizations.

So that's what we're doing and it's been an interesting spring I can tell you friend

and winter it's been and it's been very interesting the gifts just keep coming as far as I

mean I didn't they're not gifts their stories and their stories that are very valuable to

keep telling and there's nuance and and it just keeps getting more interesting every

day. You've been working on the Raymond School District story very much so Heather and

I have both been tag teaming on it. Okay what's the latest to that so we just had a candidate

forum last week in person and the the the whole thing is been shifted towards the finances

of the school district but there's still the litig- well not litigation but there's an EEOC

complaint that is still out there with discrimination allegations from the former principal of Raymond

who happens to be a man who is gay and he is alleging some some discrimination instances that

he feels that the school district unwrunkfully wrongful it's like a wrongful termination but it

hasn't gotten to that litigation standpoint yet. So they're working through that there's there's

some grievances I know that have been filed but one of the biggest pieces of news that actually

you're gonna get a little new news out of me today we're gonna have a story very very soon around

the finances because a lot of the political takeover from the school board have caused a lot of

legal issues so they're short the the superintendent announced last week that they're about a half

million dollars short in their budget in preparing for the next year's budget so that is going to

be an issue and there was some talk of going to an operational referendum the the the reason for

the shortfall is a myriad of reasons not just the the superintendent but the legal cost they're

they're paying are not superintendent keeps saying superintendent it's actually the principal

but they're paying for two superintendents two principles they've got legal fees from the loss

the EEOC complaint they've got legal fees from the group that is pushing back on the transparency

of how the the school district is operating it's it's a whole smattering of different things and

it's one of those stories that is not going to go away anytime yeah I mean this I you know when

I was growing up I don't remember any problems in my school district there was never a problem nobody

ever complained about anything we needed a new wing on a school they did it they needed a new high

school they built it well this has been brewing for I mean the the context the the rift between and

I've covered enough 25 years worth of school districts in southeastern Wisconsin so the the

tension between parents schools and administration has been a ongoing issue for many many years and a

lot of it is budgets a lot of it is teacher staffing keeping teachers on the act 10 decisions that

had had profound issues around morale of how we're teaching what we're teaching the role of school

I think is very much a bigger question now and and it also it also raises the larger question

what is public school because in Raymond one out of every three kids is is not living in Raymond

so you have a lot more kids coming from we're seeing unified and other school districts but really

it's raising a lot of question around what is public school and so for a lot of people living in

Raymond it's Raymond school is for Raymond parents only and so a few months ago they they limited

open enrollment to six children they will accept in the fall in addition to the ones that they

already have and so there's this kind of bubbling off this this is for us not you kind of narrative that

is definitely coming up so that's the reader's digest version for I know in the recent schools they

get rid of virtual learning now for K through I forget what it is this just happened this week

where they're going to get rid of that virtual learning program right now the money

don't have the money yeah so and there's also probably some staffing issues I'm hearing about some

staffing cuts the the lot of this is tied to you know the recovery from COVID is not as strong

you also had a huge massive influx of money into these school districts that were relying a lot

of the on that money from it's the S or funds it's ESS are and that was supposed to help school

districts be okay and adapt to the realities of a virtual school for in relationship to COVID so

that's one of the reasons why they're adapting that I don't know I honestly I have been kind of

tunnel visioned for the last few weeks only because I've my dad was in the hospital and so I had

to go run home to Ohio to hang out with pa lockwood no no no it's it's his my dad's name is how

I'm saying pa I know I wasn't a nun see it my speech team training filled me this morning because

I have not had enough coffee yet friend oh I knew it come back to me I knew I get the blame for

this thing and how is it going to work around all right these lockwoods here from Racine County

I at 719 WRJN we're looking for some rain and thunderstorms in our forecast today with a high

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721 in WRJN radio Denise Lockwood Racine County is here here Jerry Seinfeld is now a billionaire

really he's gay he's a billionaire now I thought it was a billionaire already but I guess he

wasn't you know he said billionaire today I could win the mega millions tomorrow and be a billionaire

instantly well good luck with that I know I bought my ticket I only buy tickets when it hits a

billion dollars and I said Jerry I think I told you once before Jerry and I grew up together as kids

I did not know that yeah I only knew about you told me told me about the crime folks from your hometown

oh again being a crime yeah they live there yeah but Jerry and I were like childhood friends like

five six years old seven years old I'll tell about 13 and then he moved to a different part of

town and got better friends and didn't need me anymore no he's family his mom and dad sister

very sweet people's a dad was a great guy very funny guy his dad was a sign painter and he painted

all the signs for my brother's band we had this you haul we bought and Cal Cal sign felled

did all the artwork on it but he always put a little picture of himself on there oh that's cute

on all his stuff it was always if if he didn't have room for a picture he just signed it but it

was a scribble signature I knew what it was so had I known Jerry was going to be a billionaire

someday I might have stayed in contact with him you might you never know yeah but five and six

years old who knows right so anyway all right so we're talking about some of the stories going on

one of the big stories in the state is the Robin Vos recall I know that because they see signs

everywhere recall Vos the people who had to get what 10,000 signatures or something like that

is almost 7,000 that they had to get oh okay but they got they got more than they had right

right but so many are so fraudulent that it's no good anymore don't they check these things out

yeah so that's actually one of the storylines we're going to be working pretty hard on and we're

working on it hard on hard on it right now as we speak so where we're at with this is there's

a couple of different things where there's a the district at Racine County district attorney

Trisha Hanson has started an investigation into the validity of these signatures now it's

they're let me let me frame this for you Mr. Rosen about so Robin Vos's own name is showing up on

his recall Vos petition also a fellow by the name of Preston Kite who was a Racine County Sheriff's

Deputy who was charged with with some felony charges recently his name was on it there's also

there's a lot I've been we've been digging into this pretty hard but I think one of the the context

of some of this story is is twofold one is this brings up the the control of the Trump

administration not the Trump administration but Trump's campaign on this election so you had a

fellow by the name is Conrad and I you know what I do not have enough coffee and I'm having one

of those moments he was a colonel is from Arkansas he was put in charge of the robin recall Vos

campaign and so you had Mike Lindell the Mike pillow guy um he campaigned for rallied for

this this campaign because of the allegations around election voter fraud which were unfounded

in Wisconsin but this was also very much a retaliation against Vos for not getting rid of the

Wisconsin elections commission director Megan Wolf and so this is the stage that is being set

for the November election and ironically the recall is is interesting and interesting move by

them primarily because robin is up for reelection this fall anyway I mean there's have me feeling

bad for the guy I mean and I don't feel bad for robin Vos but they I must felt bad that they'll

these fraudulent signatures were on there there are people there's a website I guess you can go

to to see if your names on it yes and I yes there is one and so that's one of the things that we're

actually working on as far as kind of identifying some of the people of where who hired the question

we're trying to really flesh out is who hired the the firm and I'm not going to say who it is

because I've got to verify and I'm a really big fan of that and you guys all want me to do that

but we're trying to to map out who it is that they hired and so if anybody's listening who

knows who who hired and who the actual company was I need to talk to you um primarily because I

want to really map out what happened um in this process because they collected 10,000 signatures

and if you look at the map of where people uh were they were all over the state of Wisconsin

collecting signatures to recall robin vos whose district is very small it's like basically western

roughly western ricing county and so now the recall is dead they don't have the

number of signatures right now they're going to re they wanted to recall the

price up for the elections coming up anyway yeah so the banks well it begs the question of why

they wanted the publicity of it yes and so there are two what's interesting to me

and so these are things that raise questions right so you have a group called hot government

and then you have the robin recall uh recall robin vos group right and so these are two different

groups but my press releases come from the same person and the same people that are

are not most of the same people that are part of hot government are part of the robin the recall

robin vos campaign and so I want to understand how did we get here and so we're going to be

digging into that over the next couple of days boy all this crime busting going on um they still

have the uh I thought there was a rule that after your thing was over you had to take down the

yard signs but I still see them all over town recall vos it's dead I mean they they're not going

to recall them you know I I still see that picture of the guy carrying those Tupperware containers

of the the signatures and everything and it was such a smug look on his face like I know what's

that Matt snorkels yeah he's just very smug looking I got it right here why you should have

looked at the signatures first if forget everybody else who didn't sign robin vos's signatures there

didn't you notice that thing when you brought it in didn't you think people were going to check

this stuff over well and this is one of the things that the the press releases and I literally

just got one uh probably about 20 minutes ago too so they're using this this as a platform also

to talk about why didn't Trisha Hanson and the state uh look into the voter fraud allegations

because the Racine County Sheriff's uh Sheriff Christopher Schmailing he brought up these questions

around collecting signatures in assisted living facilities and so that was never

resolved and they're using that as a as a way to kind of research this question of our our elections

honest remember the movie just that recently got zilla minus one was in theaters no I do not

anyway I'm very spilt and overseer right now totally politics you're Denise Lockwood minus coffee

it's 729 W R T and hometown radio refresh to civic media station where you can

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legend bones and who what kind of mad man let me have the bones and hooves I've got an idea for

a kid's desert it'll be huge we'll get Cosby to do the commercials everyone trusts him

anyone using the eyeballs I can make an abacus I've got tons of ideas

they say laughter is the best medicine and it is after you've received real medicine

from a real medical professional prior to that you don't want any laughter you don't want a doctor

giggling during an exam oh my gosh this is your body a nice man boos

one another turn and point a fork stuck in the road time grabs you by the rest

direction where to go so make the best of this task and known as why it's not a question

about a lesson learning time it's something unpredictable and in the end is right I hope you

at the time of your life

so take the photographs and snowfriends in your mind hanging on a shelf in good health and good

time textures and memories and their skin on trial through what it's worth it was worth all the

wild but something unpredictable and in the end is right I hope you at the time of your life

let's tell Denise this song was a recently called good riddance then in princess time of your life

he wrote this because his girlfriend took off to Ecuador or some country with an E and he

used ticked off it or wrote this song most songs are written about breakups and people you're

ticked off at me Taylor Swift made a whole career writing songs about breakups with her boyfriend

pain and joy man pain and joy

that is the show I was watching and the guy wrote a song about the breakup and he was all upset

about it and the guy said hey I'll have more breakups you got an album right

that's truth in that I think we have news here but hold on a second I think this is a new

segment we're talking about do we have it yet no we don't have it yet still we're promised

you would be here all right it's not here okay so let's talk about um I watched 60 minutes the

other day and I haven't seen 60 minutes in decades I just for some reason didn't watch it

but this one caught my ear and eyes and it was about the misinformation on website social media

on the internet and they took examples and put them up there there was a video somebody posted on

one of the social media sites and it showed tanks coming into Texas on the border it was nice

except it was Central America it was chilly it wasn't it wasn't Texas but you couldn't tell that

from well watching this you know clip of tanks coming in it looked like it was chilly there was

another one they showed is some soldiers killing people and they said it was the Israelis killing

the Palestinians I see and it wasn't that it was not even that part of the world it was a different

part of the world yeah I see this is such a massive problem but you know one of the things that I

really wanted to kind of interject into this conversation around social media and truth and facts

so um you know when I started the when we started the news website 10 years ago we got 90%

of our traffic from Facebook okay now I get three percent three unless I pay a hundred dollars

per story two yes this is a very relatively new thing but we in the industry knew it was coming

so Facebook has literally deprecated its news feature they took the news tab off

of the their the menu of of choices to to to experience Facebook so we're seeing a lot of drop

in in how much people are interacting the other thing is that election information

so in Rissing County I we we had candidate bios for every candidate that we had a contested race

in east of the interstate right and in order for me to elevate that that uh that that content

it would cost me one hundred dollars every single story and so people need to understand that when

you have a platform any type of platform you're getting the version of that story as that platform

determines you to see that but you know I I don't think people are as stupid as some people think

I really don't think so so when they say well the Russians are putting fake stories on the internet

and they're trying to sway the vote are you that stupid to know that you can't believe anything

you read on social media it's not it's not well now you're not getting anything

like the especially from a local news standpoint that was one of my main platforms for a really

long time now luckily our industry so you went on do you put stuff on you had a news thing on

Facebook oh yeah we have 27,000 people on our Facebook and you say they want how much from

you to every story they want in order for me to access the the audience I built it's a hundred

dollars per story that you go bankrupt yeah yeah but one of the things that we're doing you know

from an industry standpoint and I'll let this part go but I wanted to bring it up because we

realized very early on probably about a year and a half almost two years ago when Facebook announced

this this move was that we couldn't rely on social media to distribute our news and that's one of

the reasons why I need people to go to Racine County i.com and I need them to sign up for our free

email newsletter primarily because that means you don't have somebody else determining

what stories you see and what you don't but to your point as far as the misinformation piece of it

that is something I'm seeing the Raymond groups so there are actually two groups that are kind of

competing around storytelling around what's happening in Raymond and it's and one is a closed

group and the other one is an open group and I see misinformation coming from both sides of that

piece and some and I don't know that it's some of it I think is intentional some of it is not I mean

calling the the principal a pedophile when he has not been convicted nor accused of pedophilia is

is an issue um also you've got people see if you did that or a newspaper did that that's a liable

right then it's a liable problem yeah yeah but when somebody does it on Facebook they get away with it

right and so there's a level of responsibility that journalism has and I'm not saying that we

get every single thing right because I'm a human and sometimes I do get things wrong and I we

work really hard to use the best practices that are in our industry that guide us and so

there's this mediation process and so you have a sender and a receiver and so I have a responsibility

to make sure that my my information is accurate at the at that time that I'm publishing it I also

have an obligation to update things so those are things that I'm always struggling with as a journalist

but also I feel very strongly that audience needs to have responsibility to when the things

they're posting on the internet as well so like when um you know the when I was talking earlier

about the superintendent the finances of Raymond school one of the things that came out was that

the superintendent that has resigned um had put numbers in the wrong places in the budget right

and so this was interpreted as misappropriating money which is not an accurate statement because

he's not been convicted nor has as any allegation been made could that happen yes has it happened

right now no and the nuance of story and story telling is so important especially in the context

of political discourse on social media because there are consequences of of not only me as somebody

as a human being who has a Facebook page okay but also me as a journalist is a business owner

because I have liable insurance and I don't want to use it right because I have an obligation to

my people to my readers to everyone to make sure that my stories are factual right now the supreme

court is going to make a decision about social media do they have the protection that newspapers have

where they have freedom of freedom of the press freedom of speech so much you know with the

newspapers or do they not have that protection on social media and that's a you know these are

things that we're going to have to deal with because there are more and more sites coming up

it got Trump's truth social which is just a one-sided lopsided type of right social media post you

know there's no opposing opinions on that thing then you've got the I'm sure there are left-wing

ones as well which you know it's kind of lopsided so the supreme court is going to have to make a

decision well I also think as a as a consumer and I think it also comes down to the reader as when

the viewer as well as the responsibility of what is truth to you right but also knowing like so if I

if I report out that it's raining here okay and it is not raining where you are is that a lie

or is that the truth well that was if I'm doing the things that journalism does I make sure that

I say the place and time so that it's clear as to whom where it it is raining and where it is not

so if it's raining in Racine and Kenosha counties at 2 p.m. that's a much more specific way to write

it than saying it's raining here so be here means that I'm talking about where I am as the author

and the authority and so that's what journalism teaches you is to be responsible for your writing

and it's it's it is not an easy political cycle I can tell you and there are some big consequences

to not valuing accurate information and so you know truth changes right but these these groups

right have fact checkers correct now Twitter got rid of all their fact checkers they don't have

many more they're going X X X X Z Z Y whatever you want to call this week it's so hard to change

a name of a product that everybody knows right it's like changing and when Tylenol had that big

scare with the over the tampered Tylenol things right back in the 80s wherever it was people were

tampering with it putting poison in there Tylenol said we can't change the name of the product

we've got to just make it better and advertise it is more you know sealed now so they couldn't even

change the name of Tylenol because it's Tylenol it's it's like it's like a generic name Tylenol

it's not a set of midifin or something like that is a generic name for but people use it's like

Kleenex got a Kleenex Kleenex is a brand name band aids brand name anyway so they were they

interviewed some of these fact checkers and their job is that they fact check the fact and then

contact Facebook and all these organizations and see you got to either get rid of this or label it

yeah and they're paying less and less attention to them because people don't want that

I don't know when they drag up Zuckerberg before a congressional party oh see you know

I and a lot of that origin that originated those lawsuits originated here here okay and so I think

it's interesting and that's actually going to have some decisions if it hasn't happened already

and so you have to forgive me a little bit because I've been working on doing some grant funding

and we'll talk a little bit about that yeah do we need to roll up or you do what should I keep

going I don't know that I have not had coffee friend I know it's all coming back to me every

one of your problems this morning is coming back to me and that coffee I could have sworn we had

coffee cups here because we did see now I got to find that he took them I know there's got to be a

public flogging in front of the building we'll get one of the you know those things they have

we just take your head and it arms in remember the old 1600s these people people in the town square

people threw tomatoes at them we're going to get one out there in front of our building

Denise Lockwood is here from Racine County I and 749 WRJN Radio

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Denise Lockwood is here from Racine County

you had some good fortune recently

I did I'm so excited so like nothing to do with coffee

I didn't I mean we kind of need to let that go

for it I'm sorry

it's all I mean so yeah so we one of the things

as an owner of a news website I am always looking for

how do we fund journalism how do we make sure that the

really strong investigative journalism gets told

is we apply for grants and so there's a

journalism school down in Florida called the pointer

I think it's just called pointer now it used to be called the pointer is

I think it's about why yeah yeah it's fabulous

actually there's a lot of history between my

the reason why I do what I do is because of pointer

because the 20 years ago or so I went to a boot camp there

to retool my whole career because I was just trained as a

print person and the industry was changing and so

there was a movement back in 2008 actually wasn't quite 20 years ago

to retrain a lot of us just typers and make us

some more digital and and savvy on the internet so

one of the things that we just did was we applied for a grant

to start looking at how the ARPA the American

rescue plan and the there's a reinvestment act

that was passed by the federal government a lot of millions and

millions of dollars were spent in the

Racine County area so we want to track and we want to

look at this through the lens of housing

in Racine County because it's such a huge impact

of how much we spend on housing and rent and homelessness

it's all very much aligned in in what we have

available to to stabilize the county so if you're

looking at the data about 80 75% actually of the houses built

in Racine were built prior to 1980

and so this is the first time that this money is being spent to actually

build houses rehab houses so there are big

questions that need to be asked around like

was it how was it spent where are we at with the process what is the

the return on investment and what are some of the

challenges and success stories that come out of that so

that's one of the things we got a $10,000 grant

which will pay for quite a few freelance

people so I'm super happy about that happy for you me too you try to do good

things and you're not one of the big giants like Gennett

you're not like the old Polish newspapers of the early 1900s

you're not the New York Times you're not the Wall Street Journal

you're the Racine County eye correct he's just keeping an eye on the neighborhood

for us yeah I'm working really well and we also started this thing called

Sippin Saver which is a video series around like

restaurants in South Eastern Wisconsin and our good friend

Corey Sebastian she owns Sebastian's restaurant she's the host for that

and so she's been doing a fabulous job and shout out to

fellow by the name of Matt Benetti who puts it all together Matt is a fabulous

videographer and the two of them do a fabulous job so

go visit that too because we're putting a lot of energy into it

just keep an eye on everything for us you know there's uh

there's a thing at the end of the movie The Burbs I don't know if you've ever

saw that with Tom Hanks the Burbs one of my favorite

movies of all time I've watched it I've watched that more than any other movie

I've ever seen and at the end when the whole neighborhood is on fire

because of this it's a whole comedy but anyway he says to Corey Feldman

he says keep an eye on the neighborhood for us he goes I will

and that's what I keep an eye on the neighborhood for us okay we need

we need somebody watching our politicians we need somebody watching our

school boards we need some gotta keep an eye if you don't keep an eye on these

people they run wild right right and they got to be held accountable

I mean think if if two little reporters from the Washington Post

didn't investigate Richard Nixon we would never have known or show up to that

court hearing right so yeah the the boring stuff can get real

exciting real quick yeah you know just you got a nosy around a little bit

like lowest lane nosy reporter that would be me to me listen

snoopy reporter Denise Lockwood thank you it was fabulous thank you next time

a lot of coffee comes here I promise all right I've done Rosen thank you for

joining us here today and we'll back you in tomorrow at six o'clock

jimner seared and Carol chicken forte reminiscing about recene

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