The Don Rosen Show (Hour 2)

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The Don Rosen Show (Hour 2)

The Don Rosen Show · Fri Feb 9, 2024

Now, yesterday and today, our theatre has been jammed with news paper and hundreds of

the dogs and all of the nation, and these veterans agree with me that the city is never

as witness the excitement stirred by these junctures from Liverpool who call themselves

the Beatles.

Now, tonight, you're going to twice be entertained by them.

Right now, and again, on the second half of our show, ladies and gentlemen, the Beatles!

I'll pretend that I can say, but I never see my own mistakes, and hold it at my chest

with all the truth, and I'll have a way of my own everything, and I'll say, oh, my love is

through.

All my love is through, I'll have a way of my own everything, and I'll have a way of

my own everything, and I'll have a way of my own everything, and I'll have a way of

my own everything, and I'll have a way of my own everything, and I'll have a way of

my own everything, and I'll have a way of my own everything, and I'll have a way of

my own everything, and I'll have a way of my own everything, and I'll have a way of my own

everything, and I'll have a way of my own everything, and I'll have a way of my own everything,

and I'll have a way of my own everything, and I'll have a way of my own everything, and I'll have a way of my own

everything, and I'll have a way of my own, and I'll have a way of my own everything, and I'll have a way of my own

everything, the one at the Milwaukee Arena, the 11,838 mostly girls screamed all the way through, you couldn't even hear what the Beatles were singing, and I was never right next to the stage.

Now, I saw the Beatles too at Che's Stadium in 1965, and you couldn't hear anything, because first of all, they weren't, this was like they didn't do stadium concerts back then, but they did this one, and the screening at a stadium was so loud, my mom and dad were with me,

and they said, we can't hear anything. You couldn't hear anything they were playing, and it was sad, because it just ruined the experience. But still, you and I saw the Beatles, not only do you see them, you spoke to them. Let's see, let's get right into that. How did you get the interview with the Beatles? Now, you worked at WKY, which was the top, you worked at OKY at the time, right?

That's right, and this was the... Well, we have to really start at the beginning when I got the call to MC the concert, Frank Friedo from Chicago, and he was runting all of their concerts in the Midwest, many apples with Chicago, Indian apples with all of them.

He called me, and he said, look, we're bringing the Beatles in to Milwaukee, September 4th. This was early in the year. I don't remember exactly maybe in March, and we'd like you to MC the show, and I had been making like $152, $150 for every appearance I made with Hermann's Hermits and all the rest of the groups that were coming through.

Well, I asked him, how much does it pay? He said, well, we're not paying any of our MCs. I said, well, I think I'll take a pass. And I hung up the phone, and I told the music director, he said, what was that all about? And I told her, and she said, you call them back and tell them you'll do it.

Yes, she's opened Cashbox and Billboard Magazine, and she said, they're the biggest thing in the world. And, you know, look at the Ed Sullivan show. I said, yeah, but I said, I think it's just a fad. And then she played the latest record, and she said, this is going to be huge. You know, play this, and I said, well, okay, you know, I will end the reaction I got was fantastic.

I called the guy back, and I said, okay, I'll do it. He says, well, geez, we already called WRIT and see if they, you know, had somebody who would do it. And he said, okay, tell you what, our call back and tell them that you'll do the warm up backs and introduce you and you'll introduce the Beatles.

Wow. I ended up doing it.

I like the fact you said, it's only a fad, Bob Barry, seer of the future. He could pick the hits.

Okay, so you got to interview them, no?

I did get to interview them the following day. There was a press conference on the fourth that afternoon.

And it wasn't the packed house, but you know, there were TV cameras and radio stations.

But I got to interview them a little bit at the press conference. But then the next day, they invited me to their old showroom at the Coach House in on 19th of Wisconsin Avenue.

And that's where I got to interview them, you know, 101 101.

So where did they say that I'm writing this down? So for future pictures, Barton, the Coach House in?

Coach House in, yeah, which is now a Marquette dorm on 19th of Wisconsin.

In the fact when you walk in there, you'll see a photo of what it looked like at that time.

Oh, I wonder who's got the Beatles room.

Yeah, that's funny you asked that because on the 25th anniversary, we went up there

and knocked on the door of the girl that had the room and we showed her the photo that I had taken there.

We had a photographer, a WKYT photographer, and he took a photo of us.

And the past mansion was behind us out the window, so you could tell exactly where we were.

We were on the 7th floor. We were not in their room. Their room was a mess.

I mean, they had Coke bottles and sandwiches and everything.

And pillows that were busted open and the feathers were all over the place.

They had the pillow fights. And so they said, no way can we do the photo here.

So we went to a room down the hall and that's where we took the photo.

But this girl was so excited. She couldn't believe that she was in the room with the Beatles.

Now, keep in mind that there were teenagers. I think it was George Harrison 19 years old.

Yeah, they were young. But what's amazing is that Paul and Ringo are still going strong.

I saw Ringo a few months ago and they're still, they haven't missed a beat.

Where did you run into Ringo?

They were at the Milwaukee Center. He'd be in his group.

Is it the All-Star group?

Yeah. Yeah. What a group. Oh my gosh.

You know, it's really amazing is Paul McCartney in his 80s is still performing.

Sounds great. The songs are great. And he's still performing.

I just I find that amazing. Even Mick Jagger is 80 years old.

And he's going on a tour sponsored by AARP. Who would have funk that?

Do you find that young people today even know who the Beatles were?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, definitely. And when I show them the photo or oh, can I have a copy of that?

I mean, they're they still want to end. They asked for an autograph.

So it's great.

I mean, that's people come up to me and then grocery stores and talk about it.

I mean, they just it's 60 years later still going strong.

And everybody thinks, oh, they came to the Ed Sullivan show.

The first one to play was I want to hold your hand. And it wasn't.

It was all my loving was the first song. Now they did three appearances.

Actually, the first song they did was I saw her standing there.

They they usually open with twist and shout, but John had learned jealous.

And so he could not sing that part of the screaming in twist and shout.

So they they did I want to they did I saw her standing there.

Yeah. And it's funny. That was the flip side of I want to hold your hand.

That's right. Very few groups had an A and B side.

And there's something young people don't know what I'm talking about.

The 45 RPM's had a side, which was the hit side, the B side, which was the also ran.

But the Beatles didn't have any B sides. Every single one of their singles,

their 45 RPM's both sides were hit songs.

That's right. And I don't think we'll ever have a songwriting team again,

like Lennon and McCartney, where every song they played and wrote was a winner.

Yeah. Yeah. Of course they had the you know, the butcher album,

where they were getting to get upset because the capital was releasing everything

that they put out immediately and they had no control over it.

And so that's when they came out with this butcher album, which was really gross.

They took it off the market right away because the parents complained.

And for those of you who don't know what the butcher album was,

it was a photo of them like in a butcher shop with the white butcher

garb on and holding parts of dolls and quivers.

Yes. Yes. I vaguely, vaguely sounds familiar to me.

And that came out and went off. They pulled it off.

I had one and there was a guy that just for Minneapolis,

it just insisted that he have it.

And so I did sell it to him.

I wish I would have gone to it, but this guy just wanted it something.

We got so many things to talk about hanging there. Bob Barry is here,

legendary radio air personality from Milwaukee.

We'll talk about some of his past as well.

And we have more to talk about the Beatles on their 60th anniversary

of their first appearance in America on the Ed Sullivan Show 60 years ago today.

I'm Don Rosen. Thanks for joining us here.

It's a civic media station home tab radio refresh WRGN719.

And I say that something. I want to hold your hand.

I want to hold your hand. I want to hold your hand.

And we're talking to Beatles with Bob Barry Beatlebaum.

This morning at WRGN, Bob worked at WOKY,

which was the hottest top 40 station in the area.

I guess she had WLS and WCFL in Chicago,

but when it came to Milwaukee area, WOKY was it.

And you did mornings at the time, right?

Or in evenings?

That's right.

Well, no, I wasn't doing mornings then.

I didn't do start doing mornings until 1970.

But on 64 I did the nights at 7 to 11.

So that was a really big time for the kids.

They all listened and I was playing every Beatles song that came out.

As soon as it came hot.

In fact, there was a while.

There was a time where I was playing every other song, a Beatles song.

Would you believe that?

And so, of course, that's how I became Beatlebaum.

And that's probably why this guy called me to MC the show

because all the kids were listening.

Now, our VP of this company, Chris Marrow,

worked at WOKY when you were doing mornings.

And yesterday he sent me a note.

He said he used to work overnight at the station when he was a young guy.

And he used to pull your get your stuff ready in the morning.

And he was so nervous when he got to meet Bob Barry,

when you got on the air.

He got off the air of the overnight shift.

But I thought I'd say hello from Chris Marrow,

who is our VP of this company.

He's a very good talent.

He is very talented.

And he's running the VP of this company right now.

VP of sales, so good for Chris.

Now, I worked at WOKY for a short time too.

I think a lot of people did.

I worked later years when they were not quite the station they were when you were there.

But I got to work there for a short time as well.

But a lot of this jockies across the country wanted to hop on the Beatle wagon.

And some of them were calling themselves the fifth beetle.

And that was Murray the K in New York City.

Called himself the fifth beetle.

Although he didn't know more than you did.

I mean, you got the interview of the Beatles.

You MC this show.

And that's all he did, Murray the K.

But he took that moniker, moniker.

And the WABC radio at the time was calling themselves WA Beetle C.

They actually had jingles made WA Beetle C.

Seventy cents.

I didn't blame that.

I don't know if you know I wrote a book.

Yes.

Rock and roll radio Milwaukee.

Yeah.

And there's a chapter in there all about the beetles with the photos and everything.

And it covers the entire time that they were here.

But the publisher decided that they would say stories from the fifth beetle.

And I had to explain to them.

In fact, we had a local personality here that when the book came out.

He went on the errands and said, how does he get to, you know,

of all the nerve to call themselves the fifth beetle.

I explained that in the book.

The reason they called the, you know, the guys that went on stage to introduce them the fifth beetle.

Because obviously they were on stage.

And they were, you know, and they were the fifth person with them.

But I was actually, if you want to be honest about it,

the 13th beetle because this was the 13th concert in the United States.

So if you're going by who was on stage with them, I wasn't the fifth.

That was the 13th.

And the beetles weren't around that long when you think about it from,

I guess they were 1963 when they formed.

And they were only around till 1970.

That's right.

They were only around a few years, but look what they did in those few years.

The music, man.

And the artists that have played their songs, you know,

you name an artist and I'm sure that they've got one of their songs on their album.

And they opened the doors for all these groups.

They called it the British invasion.

They opened the doors for the Rolling Stones, the animals,

hermits, hermits, you mentioned earlier.

Every group that came from England has to thank the beetles for that

because it was at one time you couldn't listen to a song on the radio

where it wasn't some British artist.

I mean, even the solo vocalists like Dusty Springfield

and all the groups that came, it was like 1F Cliff Richard,

another guy who had a couple of head songs.

They all were owned due to the beetles.

And their five was, they were huge.

They crossed a riot at the George divine's ballroom.

The Dave Clark, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Now their first concert was it, was it in Washington, D.C.?

Their first one?

But yes, that's correct.

Okay, and their last one I think was a candlestick park out in San Francisco.

So from the East Coast to the West Coast, and that was it.

We never saw the beetles again after that.

I saw them with the help concert at Chase Dadia when they were pointing the movie help.

But I followed them to Minneapolis and Chicago.

I'm telling you, they changed the face of rock and roll forever.

I mean, if it wasn't for the beetles, and you got to talk to them.

So when you did interview them, who was kind of the spokesperson?

Who was the guy who led it? Was it John?

No, it was Paul.

Really? Okay.

Well, as I mentioned before, John had learned jiders.

So he wasn't talking at all.

He was under doctor's care.

And he really didn't have to say much because he couldn't hear him anyway.

Nobody knew whether he was singing or not.

So, you know, that didn't matter.

But Paul was really the spokesperson for the group.

Ringo was, you know, screwing around like I said, you know, we got all this stuff from the kids they sent you.

I got a couple of mail bags full of mail here.

And I've got the bears and watches and rings and champagne and ringles.

So can I have a champagne?

And Paul said send everything to children's hospital or an orphanage.

And we'll take the mail.

So they took the bags of mail and that's it.

No drugs on the tour, either, right?

None of that I could, you know, sniff out.

Sniff out.

Like I said, the room was a mess and everything, but I could, I could not tell you that.

Sounds like they were, you know, I remember when they showed them at the warwick hotel in Manhattan,

when they were appearing on the Ed Sullivan show, they were at the warwick and they were poking their heads out the hotel windows.

That's when you can actually open hotel windows.

And the girls were in the streets causing traffic problems screaming every time they poke their heads out.

And that became a hotel you wanted to stay at the Beatles room at the warwick hotel with the Beatles stayed.

That's right.

And wow, I mean, just to be around in those days, I remember they had TV specials on called Beetle Mania when they were touring America.

And wow, so they would never in the W.O.K.Y studios, you went out to interview them, right?

With what? A tape recorder?

That's right.

Put it live.

You know, they didn't see anything of Milwaukee.

Nothing. They saw the airport.

They saw the streets as they drove through in the limousine with the police escort.

And there were a lot of kids along the line, you know, the route.

How they found out.

I don't know. Maybe in the police kids, you know, telling their kids and then other kids, you know, knew about it that way.

And they showed the hotel and the arena.

That was it.

We're going to go in there.

And that was the same thing in every city.

Once in a while, they would sneak off.

They did not in Milwaukee, but in some of the cities they would put on disguises, you know, and sneak off for a couple hours.

Bob Barry is here.

Bob, hold on through the break here.

We're going to go into the break with a song.

The Beatles actually did.

It was from a Broadway musical.

A hit Broadway musical.

It was from The Music Man.

We're talking to Bob Barry here.

We're talking to Beatles on their 60th anniversary of appearing on the Ed Sullivan show.

Here's the song the Beatles had that was on their first album.

From...

Dylan was you?

Yeah, from The Music Man.

There were bells on a hill, but I never heard them ringing.

No, I never heard them at all, till there was you.

There were birds in the sky, but I never saw them ringing.

No, I never saw them at all, till there was you.

And there was music.

As I ride this ladder, send my love to you.

Remember that I'll always be in love with you.

Treasure the issue once, till we're together.

Keep all my love forever.

Be as I love you.

Hey, Bob, that was the flip side to Love Me Do.

There's another B-side that was just as good as the A-side.

Yeah, they had a trinable.

And I kind of like this better than Love Me Do.

Now, Love Me Do, I think, was their first hit song.

That's what I wrote.

Yeah, I guess.

Yeah, I think you wrote on that time.

Everybody thinks it's time I want to hold your hand.

You know what the problem is, they all these songs came out around the same time.

And we were talking about, you were talking about Capitol Records, but the Beatles actually

sent music to other record companies before that.

And that's why you find some odd record labels like VJ Records with Please, Please Me.

And she loves you, was on Swan Records before they had the bill.

They had five top 10 charted songs at one time.

So it was, you know, about today.

Now, I don't know if Taylor Swift has done that or not, you know, five in the top 10.

But there's not many artists that have done it.

I know that.

And they were all different record labels.

The other record label they recorded on, other than Apple, their record label, was United

Artist because when Hard Day's Night came out, United Artists owned the rights to the

soundtrack of the entire movie, everything, and they released all their songs on the United

Artists album.

So at that point, they were on Swan, VJ, Capitol, and United Artists.

And you don't find that anymore.

Usually when an artist is on one label, they're on one label for life.

And that's it.

That's right.

But you don't find that.

Now, in the years to gone by, have you ever talked to, you said you, you emceed Herman

Tirmitz, right?

That's correct.

Now, we're with times.

Yeah.

Yeah, they played all the rolling stones.

Did you do the stones too?

Oh, yeah.

Where was that?

That was also at the arena.

Wow.

They're on a Torium.

They're not the auditorium one time in the arena.

They're the second thing.

Now, let's talk about you for a few minutes here.

Where did you get your start from in radio?

I started at WTKM in Hartford, Wisconsin.

Ah, the polka station.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was playing Polka, Dixieland, and then I finally insisted that I have an hour of rock and roll show.

And so they finally let me do that in the afternoon.

And then after that was an easy listening show.

So we had every, you know, we had Polka's, we had Dixieland, we had rock and roll,

and we had a lot of money.

Very easy listening.

So, and then from there, I went to WEMP in Milwaukee, WRIT, and then WKY.

You made the circuit in Milwaukee, huh?

Oh, yeah.

And then from there, I went to W...

Well, I went back to EMP, then I went to ISN, and then ZTR,

the only FM station I ever worked for.

Which is, ZTR is now WRIT, which is funny.

They went back to the original call letters, WRIT.

And so, yeah, you made the...

Those are the days when you never had a leave town to work on the radio.

That's right.

I had an opportunity to leave in Minneapolis, LA, Chicago.

I had the job that Bob Collins took at WGM.

I was offered that job.

And then he took it.

But I just...

I don't love to hear.

Like one guy who kept me on, this new program director came to town in 68,

and he said, I'm going to fire everybody.

So, he fired everybody, but he kept me because I could pronounce her kind of mark.

I mean, literally, this is the reason he kept me is because I knew the area.

I can handle that.

And I came from Milwaukee.

So, he didn't care whether I understood the Beatles captured or anything else.

But the main thing was, he knows the area.

You know, he's sort of our director of the Milwaukee English.

Oh, there was a program director that said, it's not Milwaukee, it's Milwaukee.

That's right.

It's funny, everybody pronounce it.

I want you to pronounce it that way.

I said, you're kidding.

I'm not going to do it.

It's funny when you mention that because when they hired me to come to Milwaukee

to work in 103.7, I was in Atlanta at WSB.

And the guy sent me Bill Moose who just passed away recently.

Bill Moose sent me this list of names to pronounce.

And there was Wawa Toza.

There was Ocona Milwaukee on there.

There was Manitouwak.

All these names that would come up.

And when I came here, there was a woman on Channel 12.

I forget what her name was.

And she kept saying Milwaukee, MUH, Milwaukee.

And when I started, I said, you want me to pronounce it, Milwaukee?

He goes, oh, you've been watching.

And I forget what her name was.

He said, you've been watching her, haven't you?

I said, yes, I watched all the, I was at the hotel watching as much as I can

to get these pronounceers the way you want them.

I want to sound like the locals.

He goes, well, it's Milwaukee, not Milwaukee.

So it was Kathy.

I think it was Kathy something or other.

I'm trying to remember what her name is.

Yes, Michael B.

No, wasn't Kathy Michael B.

Not one there.

I forget what her name was, but she was on Channel 12.

And that was 1980.

Did you ever do the Channel 10 auction?

Yes.

That's where I met you.

That's where I met you.

I did it for like 37 years, 36 years.

That's where I met you with the Channel 10 auction,

which they don't do anymore.

But yes, I said, at last I'm talking to Mo Wawa.

I said, I'm not, I'm not very before.

Where do they meet him?

And it was, it must have been the Channel 10 auction.

It just occurred to me.

Absolutely.

Okay, so today you still, you know, we talked off the air that radio people,

they never retire.

They just, you know, do other things.

And you are doing podcasts through the tune of over it.

You have over 200 interviews, right?

Yes.

And we're kind of all kinds of celebrities.

I mean, you know, from the music celebrities to,

actors and actresses.

You know, it's like one of them that's coming up as Jack Mercer,

who did Popeye.

So.

Hallelujah.

Yeah.

Wow, I love my spinach.

You can, you can, you can, you can take over.

Yeah, right.

And so how can we hear the podcast?

Just go to Bob Berry podcast or Bob Berry W.O.K.Y.

If you put Bob Berry W.O.K.Y, you'll get all kinds of stuff.

But the Bob Berry podcast, they're on YouTube, Spotify,

all the podcast channels.

Now, you're also, now a lot of people don't get this because they don't think about it.

But I hear them from the Wisconsin Broadcasters Association,

the WBA, actually post them on Facebook.

So that's the way I heard some of them.

Yeah, you can go to WBA too.

And you'll find them there.

Yeah.

Okay.

Now, when you introduced the Rolling Stones on stage,

something I didn't know until just now,

did you, did you meet them or just a straight interview?

You never met them.

You just went on and say, hear the stones and you walked off.

Oh, no.

No, I was, I was backstage with them.

He's quartering one on.

And we had some photos taken.

And it would you believe all of that stuff was lost.

I just have no idea.

The only photo I have is with Bill Wyman,

but all the rest of them with the entire group.

The photographer has no idea whatever happened to him.

And he died a few years ago.

So I guess we're never, ever going to find him.

He took him to the grave.

And also, we did channel six.

Did these, as I mentioned before, they did all,

they followed me around when I did all these concerts.

Not the Beatles, but the Rolling Stones,

Hermann's Hermits, Paul Verne, the Raiders.

And I would interview him backstage and they filmed it.

And we'd have it on the, on the afternoon,

where I was doing an afternoon show at channel six.

While I was on WHOI, we taped that.

And they, when they moved, they threw away all of the tapes.

And they threw away all the news stuff, everything.

They just, instead of calling me and saying,

hey, would you like this stuff?

We're going to throw it away.

They just, they tossed it all.

So I have a few, but not the Rolling Stones.

The ones I really wanted.

Let's have more.

I talk about throwing things away.

I've told you off the air.

And I think I've told the story on the air before.

That when my parents moved from New York to Florida,

they threw everything out.

They threw up my high school diploma.

They threw out everyone.

My brothers, medical textbooks, they threw everything out.

Including my beetle ticket stubs from 1965.

They were yellow ticket stubs with blue.

They had the blue beetle logo on them.

And they had the picture, a picture of the beetles on the ticket stub.

And I saved them and my mother threw them out.

And she said, she said, if they were important to you,

you would have taken them with you when you moved.

Because I moved when I was like 20 some years old.

I got out of the house.

You would have taken them with you.

I said, you could have called me.

What had my brother run over there and get them?

And she kept saying they obviously weren't that important to you.

Thanks mom.

Also, I had a picture taken with me in the group America.

At this time, they were, it was 1970s when they had all their hits songs coming out America.

They were at the NASA Colosseum on Long Island.

And backstage, we took a photograph.

And it's me in the center and they're all around me.

And we had to hang it up at the radio station.

And when I left that radio station, I said,

if you ever get rid of it, let me know.

Well, the station was sold and I called the general manager.

And I said, if you ever get rid of that picture,

I'd let me know.

I'll come get it.

He said, it's yours.

A couple of years later, they moved from the building.

I said, where was it?

Oh, we had to toss it.

Oh, man.

Yeah.

Oh, my whole show.

There's a million stories like that.

I know.

And you know what?

They're in your head.

You know, you did it.

I know you did it.

And that's all that's important to this point.

There's one of the piece of musical history

that Milwaukee has.

Didn't the winter concert with Buddy Holly,

the big Bob and Richie Valens play Milwaukee?

Was it?

Didn't they put it right before they went to clear it?

Right before the surf, surf ballroom, right?

That's right.

Yeah.

And what?

Where was that?

That was at the Eagles Club.

The Georgia Lions Ballroom.

And then they went off to the surf ballroom where my wife

and I went there to the surf ballroom.

And it's almost like it's frozen in time.

They didn't change anything in that place.

Then we went out to the actual site where the plane crashed

at a farmer's field at 115th and goal.

That's the intersection.

You walk a quarter mile into the field.

And there's a there's a memorial set up there.

But Milwaukee's got a great rock and roll history.

Oh, definitely.

Yeah.

I'm still back on the fact that you talked to the rolling stones.

I'm still stuck.

I didn't know that.

So let's wrap up on the Beatles talk here.

You interviewed them in person.

The room had feathers from pillows flying all over the place.

It looked like a like a frat house, right?

Yeah.

Great sense of humor, too.

You know, I asked Paul, what do you do with all the mail?

And he said, we soak it overnight and eliminate frat for two minutes

and deep fat garnished with a cucumber and a turbid piping hop

to wrinkle for breakfast.

I mean, those are the kind of, you know,

great answer.

As George, what are you going to do when you're not popular anymore?

So I sit home and count my money.

And you know what's interesting?

The year that they came to America 1964 was also the year they took a chance

and put these guys in a major motion picture.

That's a four star movie.

They always run on TCM a hard days night.

I mean, what a great movie.

And then they came out with help after that.

Then they decided they were very innovative.

They came out with yellow submarine, the animated film.

And then they came out with their final movie, let it be,

which I actually have a VHS copy.

It was released by CBS Fox Video and United Artists.

And it was a legal copy until Yoko Wonu demanded it be pulled off

because they didn't have the rights to put the music on video back then.

And so, but I have my cousin told me about it.

I got it on eBay.

So I've got that sitting at home.

Well, that's good because you can watch that with all the streaming.

You went to the theaters to see these rights.

You couldn't hear half of it because the girls were screaming.

Bob Barry, legendary radio personality.

You sound great.

You sound like you did on the radio back then.

Thank you so much.

And it's really a pleasure to be on with you and to be on the radio again.

I'm not kidding.

You sound exactly like you did back in the radio.

Your voice hasn't changed one.

I owe to Bob Barry.

I'm very kind.

Thank you.

I want to know, I want you to know that I am probably going to call you back some time

because we've got rock and roll radio history to talk about on this radio station.

And you're the guy.

And you sound so great doing it.

You have all the great stories in your head.

So you will come back at a time, right?

Have you seen my book?

No.

I've got to get the book.

I'll get you a copy.

All right.

We'll get off here.

I'll get our information from you.

And I will send you a copy.

And maybe we can talk about that the next time or odds.

Rock and roll, radio, Milwaukee, from the fifth Beatles.

Not for the judges.

Not okay, but they're not in there anyway.

Bob Barry, thanks a lot.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Hold on the line.

You know, if you break my heart, I'll go.

But I'll be back again.

Because I told you once before goodbye.

But I came back again.

I love you so well.

I'm the one who wants you.

Yes, I'm the one who wants you.

Oh, oh, oh, oh, you.

Good.

I made up things to do.

I love it when things work out.

That CD won't play.

We've been playing Beatles old Beatles CDs for the past 45 minutes.

Well, forget that because we're talking Super Bowl.

My Clemens is here and he's out in Las Vegas, the land of Viva, Viva Las Vegas.

And that's a great place to hold anything because the city never sleeps.

Literally never sleeps.

It's up 24 hours a day.

And it must be packed there in Vegas right now, right?

Yeah, you know, this is my 18th Super Bowl.

And there used to be some of these guys that were sports writers.

A guy named Jay Marriotti, I think sometimes out of Chicago,

who really would write mean and nasty things all the time.

And he made Rex Grossman the Bears quarterback at the time.

You know, just paranoid of the article that's going to come out.

And then they would rip Super Bowl cities like we were in Jacksonville that year.

This is like 2005.

Oh, this town's already and they've got too many bridges and the people don't know what's going on.

And they really mean stuff.

And I was on the air with a national show and I said, you know,

why don't they just build a Super Bowl stadium in Las Vegas?

Because there's no city better equipped to handle a huge convention.

And that's really what the Super Bowl turns into being for a week.

All the sponsors that come in, oh, ex-players, et cetera, the media.

And Bedouin Vegas, he goes, are you kidding me?

That will never happen.

The league doesn't have anything to do with gambling or mob connections.

Well, that goes back to 1963 or so.

Like when the Beatles landed,

Paul Harning and Alex Cares, a defense alignment for the Lions,

got to spend it for you for gambling games.

So here we are.

The sports betting rules changed a couple of years ago in New Jersey.

And now you got this online betting in states across the country.

And now, you know, the NFL saw a revenue stream and they've jumped on it.

And so instead they're now having lectures to the players that are in the Super Bowl saying,

please do not bet on anything while you're here in Vegas.

Where is the stadium?

The last time it was in Vegas was back in the, where was it?

Oh, I went to a winning there back in the 2000s,

but it had relatives living there.

So I went to go visit them.

But where's the stadium built?

You know, the part of town where is the famous Las Vegas.

Welcome to Las Vegas sign in the big gold Mandalay Bay Resort.

Yeah, that's where it is.

It's right across the street.

It's right across from Mandalay Bay and the Luxor, the big triangle,

or the black pyramid in town.

And I'm hearing that if they open A's are coming here,

and the owners really want to move them,

because Oakland's really got some serious problems with crime,

that they're going to tear down the Tropicana and build the ballpark there.

Whoa, Vegas is always changing anyway.

They're always tearing down things and rebuilding them.

I saw the movie Casino with Robert De Niro and Joe Pesci.

They're always tearing things down in Las Vegas.

But it's right.

It was a desert town.

It wants with nothing.

And then who was the gangster who started the whole thing?

He eventually got his eyes shut out.

Bugsy Segal.

Bugsy Segal.

Bugsy Segal.

Yeah.

He had this idea and they gave him all this money and he built it.

And they said, this is a train wreck with you built here and they killed him.

And little did they know he was actually right on.

Okay.

So let's talk about the game because I have two things here.

One, we're a guy who's, who's called the winner for 16 years and failed for 16 years.

He's never picked a winner in 16 years.

He is picking the chiefs to win, which means the 49ers are going to win.

And then you've got the Madden game, the Madden John Madden video game,

which is calling for the chiefs to win.

So, and really nobody knows until you get to the games over.

Nobody's going to know who's going to win.

But do you have any insight of how these teams,

have you been to any of the practice sessions?

Were they?

Every one of them.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

Actually, we have pool reporters, guys like Peter King that are allowed in.

But I've got to talk to the players every day.

You know, the 49ers are at their peak in terms of all the weapons as they call them.

But they've got between Christian McCaffrey, a very strong, you know,

hard, bowl-rushing running back.

George Kittle, one of the best tight-ends ever to play the position.

A young flashy receiver named Brandon Ayuk,

who made some spectacular catches in their last game.

You know, Kyle Yusek is an old-fashioned, you know, fullback and non-non.

And Kyle Shanahan is a really smart coach.

He displayed that yesterday in the press conference.

But the fact is Andy Reed and Patrick Malms are just a deadly combination.

And Patrick's been in 17 playoff games.

17.

That's like a whole season.

That's some experience he has, and he's still only 27, 28 years old.

And so that makes them very dangerous.

So I, in the end of the day, coaching wins this game.

And I still got to give it to Andy Reed and Patrick to be able to figure out a way on how to get past the 49ers.

You know, with this whole Taylor Swift phenomenon going on now,

we read a story this morning where dads love it.

Because for the first time, their daughters are sitting with them and watching the football games.

And they said, because they just, they're big, big, big girls love Taylor Swift.

And now she's part of the NFL needles to say.

So that's a whole big phenomenon going on right now with her.

And it's probably going to bring a lot of people to watch the game just to see what happens.

It has, the ratings are up on the cheese play.

And Taylor Swift is up there and they can track that.

And what's so funny is somebody kept counting this because there's some of these people that say,

oh, I'm so sick of her.

It's like, well, you're the same people to complain about Ron.

She entertainers.

What, what more do you want for, for youth in America, for anybody, then Taylor Swift.

Her stuff is great.

It's, you know, it's, it's, well, so many hits.

You can't blame her for being so successful.

But it's so, like, it's, it's like two minutes that they've, she's taken up time.

They're good. 30 seconds cut away.

Yeah, it's not even two minutes.

They clocked the game.

They took a three and a half hour game.

And she was on screen for 25 seconds out of three and a half hours.

Right.

But the image is she's, she's on every break.

And she's not.

She just wants to go see the game.

She's in love with one of the football players.

And it's not her fault the cameras are focusing on her.

She's not doing anything.

She's watching the game.

Right.

It's not like media critics.

This is what people are putting on social media.

I'm trying to do a trick.

Well, you know, come on.

Really?

Well, then I'm covered then.

Yeah.

Don't, don't mention it.

It's you.

But this is going to be a big game.

Two great teams, the 49ers and the chiefs.

And we've got you out there.

Wow.

Yes, sir.

I'm looking.

And he bet his mortgage on his house and everything out on the tables.

And he's doing very well.

No, you didn't.

You always hear these stories about guy betting their kids college education on the tables.

Hey, Mike, I want you to have a good time.

I want you to have a safe trip back and take care of yourself out there.

Okay.

Don't make any big wagers.

All right.

I heard that there's one major guy and he says I'm making a small wager.

I have $1,000,000 on the table.

Because there's somebody doing that.

I know.

Very well.

Well, thank you, John.

Have a good, have a good weekend.

You too.

Mike Clemens watching the Super Bowl.

For us here at WRJN Radio.

Home tab radio refresh time, Don Rose.

And I will catch you once again Monday morning.

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Have a great weekend.