The Don Rosen Show (Hour 1)

Follow people love fall. It's my favorite season.

People that love fall, they go crazy for the foliage through it.

The foliage! Let's drive by the foliage.

It's so beautiful the way the leaves die.

They're so pretty right before they fall to their death.

We think it's beautiful. It's the leaves hospice.

It also helps that the leaves can't talk.

If they can talk, they'd be like, ah!

Get me chlorophyll!

Why are these people driving by and smiling at me?

You're rather insensitive to the leaves tragedy.

They die, they fall to the ground, we just rake them up.

Kids, you want to jump on this pile of dead leaves?

No, alright, I'll just light them on fire.

Wooo!

Just see the sleigh bouncing and ringting and tingling,

Just feeling, feeling, feeling, I make it to lovely weather.

For sure I took yellow with you, feeling, feeling, feeling.

I was like a snow is falling and friends are calling you.

Baby, baby, baby, I'm here.

It's the lovely weather.

For sure I took yellow with you, feeling, feeling, feeling, feeling.

That good morning, it's 8 minutes after 6 o'clock.

I'm Don Rose, and thanks for joining us here at WRJN.

Home town radio refreshed.

At 1400 a.m. 99.9 FM in Rze 98.1 FM in Kenosha.

I take the nicest of the FM in Lolli.

Looking for some beautiful weather, sunny with a high near 35.

Plenty tonight, lows around 29.

Tomorrow, sunny with a high near 40.

I did see the forecast of Christmas.

I'm not going to tell you what it is,

because I know they're not going to get it right a week in advance.

I went to the Del's this past weekend for our Christmas party,

and the kept saying it's going to be sunny, sunny, sunny, sunny.

It was pouring rain the entire time,

so I'm not going to give you the Christmas one.

I'll give you a hint, chance of rain.

How's that?

No snow, no.

We're going to talk with Christy,

a sergeant, Christy Wilcox,

at the Racine Police Department right now,

and we're going to talk about how to secure yourself

for the holidays, how to be safe.

It's not like there's a crime spray going out there.

It's just that, you know, things happen,

and you don't want to be a victim,

and Sergeant Christy Wilcox is going to help us with that.

First of all, thanks for joining us this morning at 6 o'clock

in the morning.

Thanks for having me.

You don't do one of these early shifts, do you?

No, not anymore.

Not what you did.

I used to.

Yep, 6 a.m. to 2 p.m.

People say, oh, you must be a morning person.

No, I don't like getting up at 4.30 in the morning.

What are you crazy?

There are, there are possums running around me back here.

At 4.30 in the morning.

One day we turn on the light,

and I see these two jewels looking back at me.

The possum was sitting on the fence staring at me.

And I said, who makes the first move?

Right.

It was like, it was like 4.30,

it was taking on some garbage and just staring at me.

It's either two jewel eyes.

You can't see them.

Just the eyeballs from the light following me.

Is this a different time of year for people to be extra careful?

Or is it just a regular time and we just more cognizant up?

Because we get more packages this time of year.

Correct.

With more packages, I think you should be a little more cognizant.

The thefts of packages happen year-round,

but because there's more of them, I think they're outlooking

for the packages.

You know what, here's the thing against me.

It used to be, when you got a UPS package or a FedEx,

you had a sign for it.

They knocked at your door,

and you had to sign for the package.

Even the post office made a sign.

Now they just throw it from the cards on your board

and hope for the best.

Correct.

When did that all change?

I'm not really sure.

I don't know if you can make an option to have all your packages

signed for, that would be something that would be...

But it wasn't an option.

They used to get a note on your door.

Stop by the post office, pick up your package.

Or if FedEx was here, call us,

we'll deliver your package.

No more, it's just laying there.

And if you have like a ring system on there,

it could tell when someone's on your porch,

but they don't come on the porch a lot of them.

So they'll do it from the sidewalk

and they'll just like push it on there

so the camera doesn't get a chance to tell you they're there.

Correct.

I know some...

Some as motion activated.

Yeah, they are motion.

But you got to be there.

Correct.

Now if you turn it up all the way,

every time someone walks past your house,

it's going to go off.

Correct.

And that's when you drive in nuts all night long.

Yes.

So yeah.

Let's talk a little bit about you

before we get started here.

How long have you been with the street?

We're seeing police department.

Over 23 years.

23 years.

Would you start when you were like 12?

Not quite.

I was...

I was actually a late bloomer.

Why would you go to the police department?

Why that jump?

No, I know.

And we've talked before we went on the air.

I know a lot of people in the police department.

Why would you do that?

At the time, I wanted to help people.

My background was in forensic science.

No, well, okay.

That time trying to get a job in forensic science.

They wanted you to have a master's degree.

And I was done with school at the time

and I just wanted the job.

So...

So you would be...

Like, I told you what Julie's police shows.

Forensic files, I want.

I had the creator of that show on the air with me once.

And he was telling me how it got started.

And they solved the crimes now through DNA.

It's so easy to solve a crime these days

because there's DNA.

And DNA doesn't lie.

No.

You can't dispute it.

It is.

Or it's not.

Is that what you were going to do?

Yes.

No, I mean, there's different aspects of forensics.

The DNA at the time was very complicated.

It's still complicated, but I think they've figured it out.

It's a lot more streamlined than it was back in the 90s

when I was in school.

But yeah, I mean, it's fingerprints.

It's ballistics, which is your bullets

and how to compare casings and spent cartridges.

It's so difficult to not get caught these days.

They got your cell phones.

They can track your phones through pinging on towers.

Correct.

Your car's got GPS in it, even though you don't know it.

It's in the engine, though, some cars.

It's so hard to get away with things these days,

especially when they do the forensic stuff.

As long as you brought that up, what takes so long

when the police give a DNA swab?

They said, well, now we got to wait.

And they got to wait a couple of weeks.

Is it just a backlog of stuff?

Or is it take a long time to get the DNA profile?

Well, some of it is a backlog of, I mean, Milwaukee Crime Lab.

I can speak from the medical examiner side.

They deal with a lot of jurisdictions just dealing with their cases.

So I'm assuming the crime lab is the same way.

And their backlog is, I'm sure ridiculous.

But the testing does take hours at a time.

And they run it through different types of machines

that all of the, sometimes you have to let it go overnight.

It takes that long to process some of the tests.

You know what I think they're going to have one day?

You ever see those, it's like a radar gun, I guess.

Yeah.

And we'd aim it at the DNA.

And it'll give you the DNA profile right on the screen.

That's going to happen.

You know what's going to happen?

Because 20 years ago, they couldn't even do what they're doing today.

Correct.

Yeah, there's been a lot of advancements.

And I think the best way is these genealogy people

who figure out who the perpetrator is.

I mean, that's just amazing how, just give us a little information.

And we will tell you what the person looks like.

We will tell you who it is.

They had this genealogy person on ABC for a while.

It was called the genetic detective or something like that.

And she was really good at this.

But it takes a while because they have to,

they have to check obituaries and everything.

But they'll get that genealogy that, that ancestry right down to like one or two people.

Yes.

And they say, we know who they are.

There's two brothers here.

One of those two brothers.

And that's it.

It's the brother with green eyes.

Oh, okay.

Look, I mean, it's so hard to get away with the crime.

I watch all these date line shows.

Now, they don't always get the person.

My sister-in-law was murdered.

And in Chicago, in the 70s and my wife, a couple of years ago,

saw online the Chicago PD posted something.

And I said, cold case.

Still looking for the murderer of Dale Rosen.

And it listed all the information.

They just never caught the murderer.

She was murdered and that was the end of that.

And that was in 74 or 75 around there.

So I guess, you know, some slips through the crack.

But that's before they had DNA and everything else.

Correct.

And they probably never thought of getting a DNA swab back then.

Probably not.

But they're still looking for the murderer.

But, you know, the 70s, the chances are there.

And an old age home where they're dead.

You know, so it takes a while to find people.

So this is the line of work you've chosen as Michael Corleone said.

This is the business we've chosen.

Yes.

Yes.

Do you have a family?

Do they have a problem with this line of work?

They have just kind of gone through it with me.

It's been ups and downs over the years.

But they just kind of deal with it with me.

Now, that's good.

Now, they were seeing police department has a lot of programs.

Yes.

To help people.

They don't just sit there and write tickets.

Although, when I come down 16th Street and people, I'm going 30.

And they're buzzing around me at 40, 45.

I wish I had a like a light in my car to make a citizen's arrest

like an Andy Griffith who and Gomer made a citizen's arrest on Barney.

That's, I just want to pull them over.

It's a citizen's arrest.

Yep.

Tell us about some of the other programs.

Like for the, you have the community policing, right?

Yep.

The community oriented policing unit.

It's comprised of six houses throughout the city.

Each is staffed with an officer.

Each officer out of those houses has programs that they conduct within their house,

within their neighborhoods.

It could be free meals, could be game night.

One of our houses, he has haircuts twice a year for haircuts where local

barbers come in and it's supported by educators in Andes.

They're big supporters of it.

So yeah, free haircuts for the community.

You just have to sign up.

Free grocery giveaway.

That's every third Thursday of the month out of the Anthony,

Anthony Street COP House.

Let's see what else.

Yeah, different like school drives we've had out of the houses.

So it's a, it's a big program throughout the city that I think is helpful to a lot of the community.

That's good.

And one of the biggest things people can do is lock their cars to be safe.

Let's talk about some of these safe things again.

Lock your cars.

Now you don't have to go overboard like I do.

Beep it.

Go in your house.

Run back on.

Try the door again.

Go back in the house.

Beep it.

Run back out.

Try the door again.

One of the guys who checks the stove for five minutes before I leave the house.

We have a comedy bit on that.

Not a horrible thing.

I know, but it's annoying to people around you, especially when, let's go already when I'm checking the stove.

And then you take a picture of it.

When I check the car under when I get into the parking lot or I pull the door, I stare at the car.

I pull the door again.

I beep it again.

Make sure your things work, right?

Yeah, come on.

Lock your vehicles.

And you know, you'd be surprised how many people don't do that.

Correct.

They just jump out of their car.

And it's so easy.

Beep beep.

I mean, you can't make it any easier than that.

We're going to talk about in just a moment here.

We're going to talk about some of the ways you can keep your house safe, especially at Christmas time.

And they leave their windows open to see their Christmas tree.

Correct.

I can't believe people leave their windows open to their house.

We seal ourselves in like we're in a tin can.

But people, and you can, I drive by the neighborhood.

I can see everybody in their living room.

That's, you know, it's nice at Christmas time, but it's kind of dangerous.

We'll talk about that.

It's arching Christy Wilcox.

We're seeing polices here.

And we're talking about your safety.

Some other things as well.

And keep it right here.

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Underneath the mist of the rest night.

She didn't see me greet.

Down the stairs to have a view.

She thought that I was tucked up in my bed.

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Sargent Christie Wilcox from the Racine Police Department is here.

Okay, let's get serious about some things here.

Especially at Christmas time.

People we were talking about leaving their windows open.

And with the presence under the tree.

And you get some nasty people out there.

Most people aren't.

But you get an occasional nasty person who will say,

huh, I see presence.

I'll come back when they're sleeping.

If they tell you don't put the presence under the tree,

unless you have the windows closed or on Christmas Eve and stuff.

But I drive through my neighborhood.

My neighbor across the street with me is this big screen TV.

I can set a chair on his front lawn and watch the television.

I mean, I don't do that.

But it's pretty safe to close your windows at night.

Wouldn't it be?

Yeah, that would be ideal.

Because then people can't peep in your house.

Now, ordering online, there are several ways to keep packages

from coming into the doorstep.

I think Amazon scared a great way.

They have these lockers all over town.

Yeah, they've got hubs somewhere.

Yeah, well, you just go to the locker, pick up your package.

If you're not going to be home all day.

Correct.

And you don't have a barking dog to scare people.

Correct.

Or you have a beagle like me who didn't bark in 13 years.

You come home and all these packages are sitting there.

And it's amazing they didn't get stolen.

Because it's even people that aren't thieves.

See a package still lifted.

Yeah, and people take your stuff in broad daylight these days.

Sometimes they don't wait till it's dark out.

And they'll do it right in front of a ring camera.

Correct.

I mean, you get the camera right there and they don't care.

No.

Do you ever catch those people?

Yeah, sometimes we have.

We actually just had a successful one a couple of weeks ago.

Maybe last week.

Hmm.

Let's see what else they have.

What else can you do to prevent packages being stolen?

I like that name porch pirates.

I mean, it's pretty descriptive.

Yeah, you could leave certain instructions to have it left somewhere else.

That's it.

So not it's visible.

You could have it maybe left at a back door where it's not as visible to everybody.

Maybe a neighbor who you know is home or somebody else that you know is home during the day.

Have it delivered there.

If you can maybe have it delivered to your job.

That's an option that gets delivered during the day while you're there.

And you could just take it from there.

I don't know if that's possible for everybody, but another option.

You can have it delivered to work.

Yeah.

How about this?

You leave directions.

Stand in front of the palm tree or the palm tree.

The pine tree.

Take 20 paces straight.

Two steps to the left.

You will see a wagon under the wagon.

You'll see instructions.

That might be a little too much.

Let's see if it gets there.

It's hard to find that good to help these days, I think.

Now, here's something I think all people should do.

I don't do it.

Turn on your porch lights at night.

Turn on the porch lights.

Thieves do not like light.

No.

They're like cockroaches.

Correct.

They scatter when there's light.

Emotion sensor lights for, you know, the side of your back house.

You're back at the house.

Yeah.

Well, we have motion detectors in our backyard, the lights.

And I don't know what happens, but like at midnight every critter in the world comes out.

And they start walking the fence line, walking your yard.

Yeah.

Because when it snows, we see where these footprints come from.

There's thousands of footprints all over the yard from the animals.

And then you never see them.

No.

But they're out at night.

It's like a zoo in my backyard.

Right.

Let's see what else we got here for you.

We don't leave the visible packages under the Christmas tree.

Correct.

That's a good idea.

If dogs bark in the middle of the night, don't say be quiet.

Right.

They bark for a reason.

They do bark for a reason.

That's my dog that doesn't didn't bark.

I couldn't even get him to bark.

He did bark in a sleep though.

We go.

We hear that in the sleep.

And the feet are going 100 miles an hour.

Are we dreamt to get a possum in the backyard?

Oh, doors and windows locked.

Now, I don't know if they call them Charlie bars anymore.

But we put little, we put downlings in the windows and the thing is they,

they can't get to the lock.

But what if?

So it's just, it's just not the line of defense.

Correct.

Yeah, if you can't, if you don't want, I mean sometimes they have those.

So, so little alarms for each window.

But I think you have to alarm each window.

We do.

Yeah.

So the dowels is a good idea because then they can't open.

Yeah, we have the alarm at each window.

So we're going to lift up and, you know, sirens go off.

What else do we have here?

Set your tree lights on a timer.

Yeah, especially if you're going to be out of town.

It's suggested put them on a timer so then they know they think somebody's home

if the tree lights are on.

You know what people do all the time?

And I, I know why they do it.

I don't think it's a good idea.

All they travel plans are listed on Facebook.

I'm going away at two o'clock this afternoon.

I'll be catching a flight at four o'clock.

I won't be back for a week.

At that time, I'll be back at 8 p.m.

The house will be empty.

The doors are locked.

But there's an open garage door and they put all their travel stuff online.

Yes.

I don't know why they, I have never done that.

But people do it all the time.

So the thieves are looking, oh, good.

I'll just print this out.

So where is this now?

And they're just giving you the word that this house will be empty.

Correct.

You know, I, I don't want to date myself or anything here.

But back in the early 60s when we used to go on vacation,

I lived in on Long Island.

And we never locked the garage, the back door by the garage.

We never locked the back door to the house because my mother said,

well, somebody has to get in.

Well, who has to get in?

Well, if we have a neighbor that has to get in and do so,

I said, I just, they never locked it.

We used to go over there for two weeks at a time.

Two, and there were no cell phones.

I mean, you can check up on your house.

When you left, you left.

And that was it.

You hope your house is going to be there.

Right.

In all the years, they lived there.

They never locked that back garage door.

And they lived there from 1955 to 2000.

Wow.

But they didn't have any problems doing that.

Did they?

Neighbors did.

Neighbors had houses.

We had houses broken into.

Not a lot.

But we had some broken into.

They just never did.

They were very trusting people.

And they locked out.

They were on the good side.

But you got to lock the doors.

Right.

And, you know, even the combination locks.

Because you can pick a lock with a key.

Sure.

But you can't pick a combination lock.

Correct.

I mean, you can be lucky on that, you know,

out of one trillion combinations.

But yes, you can hit it for digits on the first one.

But, especially going away during the holiday season.

So you say, leave a light on in the house on a timer.

Yes.

And leave the porch light on.

Yes.

But it's a porch lights on during the daytime.

Is that, give a clue to somebody?

I mean, oh, I see what they're trying to do.

They're trying to think when they think they're home.

But you said that on a timer too.

Oh, you can.

Sure.

Oh, look at this.

It's a learning experience for me.

How about the people that spare key under the mat?

Yeah.

Nobody's ever thought of that before.

No.

Why do people do these things?

I mean, I, or there's a note, spare key with an arrow.

Correct.

Right.

The spec.

And people do that.

I know it sounds ludicrous.

But people do this kind of stuff.

Sergeant Christy Wilcox, we're seeing police department is here.

We're going to talk about more safety for the holiday season.

And, and your cars and so forth.

I know they, my wife puts a club on the car.

Now it's going to be a key up.

And we put the club on the car.

But it's a good safety device.

I have the same police.

We're handing them out for a while.

Yeah, we still might have some.

I never.

Yeah.

Once the second round came.

We never.

Oh, you have to shut up.

Oh, sorry.

It's 20 minutes after six at WRJN.

Oh, Merry Christmas, and Christmas comes this time each year.

Oh, well, away up north where the air gets cold.

There's a tale about Christmas that you've all been told.

And real famous cat, all dressed up in red.

And he sends the whole year working out in his sled.

It's the little Satan.

It's the little Satan.

It's the little Satan.

It's the little Satan.

Just a little pop slip.

We call it a little Satan.

But you're walking to the park and with the coast eastern.

She's candy apple with a little skateboard.

And we're Santa Claus, the gas man.

Just watch her.

It's the little Satan.

You get me here, the beach boys connection to the mansion murders.

It's interesting.

It involves Daris Day's son.

Daris Day, the actress, and saying,

what happened with Dennis Wilson from the beach boys,

somehow became friends with Charles Manson.

And Charles Manson, what they get into rock and roll.

So he wrote a song and the beach boys turned it down.

And he introduced him to, I forget Daris Day's son's name.

So his lesson started to get it melted.

I can't think of a source name.

His lesson was a melted.

And he said, I can't do anything with this guy.

He can't sing.

He can't do anything.

So Manson was all upset about it until he heard the beach boys

on the Mike Douglas show sing his song.

The one that Charles Manson wrote, the beach boys actually sang it.

And he said, Dennis Wilson said, we're not going to do anything with it.

They changed the lyrics around a little bit.

And Charles went nuts, Charles Manson.

And that started the whole thing.

He went to that house where a melted lived.

And that's how the whole thing happened.

And while Dennis Wilson of the beach boys,

and that great story.

That's how the whole thing happened.

He got mad at the beach boys.

He got mad at everybody who wasn't going to make him a rock and roll star,

including Terry Melcher.

Terry Melcher was Daris Day's son.

And he got angry.

That's what Terry Melcher lived at that house.

But he didn't know that he'd Terry Melcher left

and Sharon Tate and Rowan Polanski took over the house again.

Oh, wow.

And he didn't know that.

But he went there.

Didn't know.

He never showed up there.

But he wasn't there doing the murders.

And he sent people to get them.

Because he thought Terry Melcher still lived there.

And when he heard the beach boys singing his song on the Mike Douglas show

with the lyrics changed a little bit.

He went berserk.

And I know.

I know.

So I don't want to make mad.

Holy cow.

Well, now I don't care.

He's dead.

But yeah, he thought he was going to be the next Beatles, the next rock and roll star.

And we know how it all turned out.

You ever see that movie once upon a time in Hollywood?

No.

With Liam out of the capriot.

Right.

And Brad Pitt.

I'm not going to ruin the picture.

But it's about the Manson murders with a special twist at the end.

It's a very good movie.

You should see it.

Let's talk about some of the other things people could do safe, safe wise this time of

year.

And you know, you mentioned something on the list here that I never thought of before.

But people do it all the time.

Leave a ladder right there on the side of their house.

Leave a ladder.

Nice to continue to get up to that window up there.

Correct.

Because people have the ladders out for their Christmas lights.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Don't necessarily think to put it back in the garage or wherever you store it.

And then people don't necessarily always think about locking the second floor windows of

your residence.

You know, that's absolutely right.

I never thought about it.

No, I don't have a ladder in my back here because I would never climb a ladder.

But you're absolutely right.

You put a ladder in the backyard.

Yep.

I don't think we have.

No, we don't have one in the back here.

People have burglar alarms.

And they say, I'm going to be out for just about 20 minutes.

I'm not going to bother setting the alarm.

Yes, set the...

What do you buy it for if you're not going to set it?

Correct.

What do you think the burglar is saying, oh, I got 20 minutes.

It's not enough time to go into the house, break a window and get stuff.

We have stuff on our alarm system where if you break a window, the alarm goes off.

Right.

Yes, some alarm systems do have that breakage alarm.

Yeah.

So if you break it, the alarm goes off, goes off on my phone, it goes off.

You know, you can hear it everywhere.

It's a lot of screeching noise.

Yep.

Let's see.

We talked about the boxes.

Don't leave them under the tree with your window open.

Not a good idea.

These are all the safety issues for the holidays.

But once the holidays are over, I mean, people still break into homes.

They don't just work Christmas time.

Correct.

Yeah, these are good practices to keep thinking about year round, especially at Christmas time.

But year round, because you're right.

People are going to look to see, especially after the holidays.

Well, what did they get?

They're going to have new TVs or they're going to have new stuff.

Oh, yeah.

Another thing.

They put the boxes for the new TV out, for the garbage bird to get all these boxes out.

Oh, let's see.

The Rosa's got a new TV, they got a new computer.

Oh, thanks for the update.

Yeah.

Yeah, they put the, but I guess you cut them up in the small pieces, put them in the recycling bin.

Right.

But they put the boxes out there that shows the brand new TV they got.

Oh, I never...

It's good advertisement.

That is a good ad.

Now, what do you do?

And I don't know if you have an answer to this.

What if you're sleeping in someone's in the house?

I mean, what do you, and we don't, you know, people don't, and everybody's got a gun in their house to protect themselves.

What do you do?

Well, you call 911 right away and hide.

Some people hide in the closet.

Some people lock themselves in the bathroom and they'll call us from there.

I watch Dateline.

You watch Dateline?

Oh, yeah.

I mean, if you watch Dateline, you would never leave the house as long as you live.

Never make friends, never talk to anybody.

You'd lock yourself in the closet and live there permanently.

It happens where people are in the house.

It does.

And the person who was sleeping, and confronts them.

I mean, you, I would call 911.

The worst thing that can happen is the cop show up and you say, oh, it was a mistake.

My son came in late and that's it.

That's the worst thing.

You interrupt some cop is having lunch at one o'clock in the morning, eating something and you interrupted his food.

But that's the worst thing that can happen.

Yeah, agreed.

And so, you know, better to be safe than sorry.

Absolutely.

There was some other things I had on my head here before you came in today.

I said, don't forget to ask.

I can't say what if you see something.

If you're driving on the road, you see something suspicious.

I hate to call the police on something like if you see somebody walking around somebody's house.

Oh, there's their own home walk around.

I do it all the time.

I'm looking at stuff, making sure everything is in place.

The garbage bales are away.

You just ignore that kind of stuff.

No, I mean, we have a saying that says if you see something, say something.

Yeah.

So I mean, like you said, better safe to call than, than not call.

Yeah.

Now, talk about some of the other programs the police department might have.

Are you going to schools, right?

Because here's the thing that gets me about burglars.

When I see these date line shows or 2020, they show this 16 or 17 year old kid up there.

And you either rob something or you killed somebody or you crashed into something or you're selling drugs.

And then we say to myself, where were the parents when all this happened?

I mean, my father would never put up with that kind of stuff.

He just, he wouldn't do it.

He just, you know, my brother and I were on the straight narrow.

He never touched, he'd never let a hand on us.

But we always said, what if he snapped some day?

Right.

You know, and then we're going to feel the wrath of God come down on us.

But he never did.

You threatened us.

You're too good.

She brought him.

Tell him, if you do this, you're going to see trouble.

Never touched us.

But the scare was there.

Yeah.

I don't know how parents let their kids get away with this stuff.

They can't not all know their kids are out at one o'clock in the morning.

Do we know good when they're 16 years old?

I mean, how do you get to these kids?

How do you get to them?

I know it's tough.

And you're not, you're not the mother and father in the parents of all these children in Racine.

But you're going to schools and help, right?

Yep.

We do go into schools.

We have a really good relationship with Racine Unified, especially our COP unit.

They go in more often than the rest of us.

And they will go in and talk to students.

They'll do talks.

So it's good, I think, for the students to see us in the schools for everyday stuff.

So they get to know you.

We have school resource officers that get around to the schools.

And so a lot of the students know them and have they've built a trust with the students.

Students can go up to them and they have problems.

And it's helpful.

It's helpful to be in the schools that they see us in there that not always for bad things.

Well, you know what?

And I don't know what changed.

And I hate to sound like this.

That's not like my grandfather talking to me when I was little.

But when I went to school, it was never a police officer, every step foot in that school.

And you know, I come from New York and you know, you know, New York is.

And I came from there and we never had a police officer in there.

And now when you're going to schools, there's police officers in stationed in the schools.

I mean, I know why it has to happen.

You see so many times a year, some kid comes in with a gun and decides to take out all his frustration on everybody.

I winded all this happened.

When did we start getting police officers in the school now?

When you first started the police department, whether it was cops in the schools?

Oh, yeah.

There were, there were cops in the schools when I was in high school.

Oh, really?

Yeah, so that was late 80s at Park High School.

Hmm.

I was there in the 70s, early 70s in high school.

We never had a police officer in the school.

We never had reason to.

There was never any trouble.

Right.

And I'll tell you how many people were in our school.

Our high school had almost 4,000 people.

And my class alone had almost 1,000.

That's, that's a big school.

It's a big school.

Right.

And the figure you'd have some nuts in there.

But no, never had a problem in my school.

And now you get going to a school in there.

Police officers and even have metal detectors in some schools.

And I know why you need them.

I understand that because you got nuts out there going in.

And they have a case just recently were last week.

The mother of the kid who went in and shot his teacher.

Yes.

She lived the six year old.

The six year old.

She was fine.

She swears the gun was locked.

The kid said, nope, I got it from on top of the dresser.

She had it on her nightstand or whatever.

And she's going to prison now.

Yep.

Two years, I think.

Yeah.

She got it.

Because, first of all, she lied.

And this kid got a hold of the gun six year old.

And shot his teacher.

Again, she lives, she's fine and everything else.

I mean, parents have to be careful out there.

Now, if you have a gun, you're supposed to take a class for it.

No.

Well, you don't have to.

Do you have to?

I don't know anything about guns.

To have your permit for concealed carry, yes.

What if you just want a gun to keep at home safe just in case somebody comes in.

You don't need a license.

Oh, you need to register it, don't you?

You do need to register it, yes.

The gun's got to be registered, but you don't need a specific license.

I guess it's good to go to a gun range and learn how to use it properly.

It is because it's good to get comfortable with it.

So in case you are confronted, you want to use it if you have to.

Like if someone is in your house and confronting you and threatening you,

you want to be able to have the confidence enough to use the firearm.

And if you're not going to, you're going to be too scared, then there's probably not a reason for you to have it.

Well, one of my wife worked for the Caledonian Police Department.

One of her good friends was a sergeant lieutenant there.

And I was thinking of getting my wife a gun a couple of years ago.

This for protection and stuff.

And I said, would you go with us to buy it because I know nothing about guns.

He said, I will go with you.

We'll go, we'll go buy the gun together.

We'll see what's right for her.

And then I will take you to a gun range and show her how to use it properly.

And I said, that's great.

COVID hit.

Right then, right when we were going to buy the gun,

all the everything was closed and you couldn't get into gun.

You couldn't go anywhere, you know how it was.

And so we just never did it at that time.

But I still think it's a good idea.

Oh, absolutely.

Now, I have never held a gun.

I've never fired a gun.

I've never done a rifle.

I don't think I've ever seen a real gun up close.

No, do I want to?

But she, she felt comfortable.

But she's been with the police department.

So she's been around guns.

Sure.

But I don't know.

They kind of scary to me because people get hurt.

Absolutely.

I'd rather use a baseball bat and not a swing bat and it people.

But is there an uptick in people owning guns because of crime?

And then recently, I don't know.

That's a good question.

I'm not sure.

Yeah, you must, you over your 20s of my years,

you must have seen some things.

These high speed changes I want to talk about too,

because they happen around here.

They just went on the interstate not too long ago here.

And I noticed them when I watch these high speed chase shows.

I'm there everywhere now.

Everything is a true crime channel, a true crime channel.

And I don't know when the police are supposed to chase and when not.

I guess if you got somebody with a gun, you got to chase them

because you don't know what they're going to do with it.

If they just came out of the crime.

But still, I pour people on the roads when this happens.

I mean, and sometimes innocent people pay the price.

Yeah, and that's a shame.

I love when they catch them.

And I love when they get punished in court.

I love that.

I just say, yeah, it is.

I'm screaming at the deep.

Oh, I just stopped yelling at the TV.

Yeah, but it just got 20 years in prison.

It doesn't sound like a lot for committing a crime.

20 years in prison.

But when you think what you would do in 20 years ago,

that's a long time.

That's a long time.

And it's not pleasant, I heard.

I'm sure not.

I had the sheriff in Racine County take me for a tour of the prison once.

I wanted to see what it was like.

And you can call up.

They took me for a tour.

I wouldn't want to hang around that place.

They were pretty undesirable.

And they give you a look with your pass by.

Oh, yeah.

And I even want that.

Ooh, I get the creeps thinking about it.

I try to stay out of trouble.

Sergeant Christie Wilcox is here from the Racine Police Department.

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