And if I go to Burger King, if I get an order of onion rings, there's always a couple
of french fries mixed in there with them.
Oh, he's, but if I get the french fries, there's never any onion rings mixed in there.
Are they in the same pile or aren't they?
You know, sometimes you go to McDonald's and Burger King, sometimes the people that work
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We're gonna have you watch an eight minute training video, then we'll put you on the
front counter.
People get their own drinks, and I just gotta hand them a cup.
Oh, when you hand them a cup, make sure your fingers are sticking down inside the cup.
That's our policy.
And just give them a bag of food and you're done.
There's no need to say thank you because we wrote that on the trash box.
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Early in the morning, very rare we get a guest who actually wants to come in at 6 o'clock
in the morning, but the knees lock with us here.
She's a CEO founder and that's a Racine County I major new source in Racine and she started it.
It's not a print publication, although I guess you can print out the stories if you feel comfortable holding a piece of paper in your hand.
If you want to go old school, correct.
I guess you can print it out on your printer and I'm carrying it around with you.
It's a thing.
You put on the front make a banner.
You carry it on the train, the Amtrak train, and we're here to talk about some of the news stories going all around Racine.
Excuse me.
Early for me too.
And before we begin on the stories for people tuning in for the first time and say, Racine County I, is that like an optometry place?
What is Racine County I?
How did it get started?
Let's run through the beginning of that story again.
Sure. So I'm Denise Lockwood.
I own the Racine County I and I've been a journalist for 25 years.
It's been a day or two.
The Racine County I is a really strong local news source for Southeast from Wisconsin.
We focus on everything from when your roads are going to get paved to weather and traffic.
But we also do some really good, strong, deep dive.
What we affectionately call butts in the seat kind of reporting where you've got that meeting coverage, where you're really focused on really reporting out on things that impact people.
And we our tag is journalism that serves.
And it's online and it's online.
Racine County I dot com, right?
Correct.
Okay, just want to make it simple.
Okay, so that's what and you do break stories.
We do.
And I'm going to ask you a little while.
I don't want to name sources or anything like that.
But how do you find out about these stories before they break?
I mean, you always see that on TV too.
My congressional reporter found out today.
How do you find this stuff out?
You can't ask people because.
Oh, you can.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And they'll tell you.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Oh, really?
People who are interested in the truth talk to me.
That's one of the things that there are people interested in the truth.
That's the story.
There's the breaking news.
I, you know, it's interesting.
And it's, it's really developing relationships, right?
Journalist currency is not just how they write, but who they talk to to develop those
source lists, right?
And so that's, it's institutional knowledge of like how things work and relationships and really trying to show up.
And if you went, you wouldn't, you keep showing up.
People talk to you.
The big story you broke recently is the Raymond School story.
What tells about that?
Because it's, last time you were here, you teased it.
I did.
You said watch because Raymond School, and you didn't tell us what it was, but now you can tell us.
Yeah, absolutely.
So Raymond, let's kind of do a little scene setting first, because I think it's really important to know where Raymond is, what it, you know, some of the demographics a little bit.
So Raymond, oh, Wisconsin is a very small town.
It's, it's a, maybe a few thousand people.
It's, it's right on the corner.
If you understand that Racine County is, is bisected by interstate 94.
It leads up to Milwaukee.
Racine Raymond is borders the Racine, you know, Milwaukee County border.
And then it also is just to the west of the interstate.
And it's got a really kind of an eclectic kind of mix of people.
So you've got a lot of people who are moving there from Milwaukee.
You've got people that are from, that have been on farms, family farms for multiple generations.
It's where you buy your fireworks.
You know, you've got a couple of fireworks companies.
You've got seven mile fair.
So there's a lot of like disparate kind of groups of people.
And so Raymond School is, it used to be about 7, 800 kids.
I'm told now the, the enrollment at Raymond School at the K through eight is about 400 kids.
Now the breakdown though, one out of every four of those children is present in school because of open enrollment.
So you have about a hundred, about a hundred kids that are coming from out of the district.
And this is part of the equation of the keep Raymond Raymond kind of movement.
And then so you've got a lot, a lot of feelings around that piece of it.
So the, the story that we broke and there's been multiple stories probably we've probably been writing about this for a couple of months now.
The principal, just a few days ago, was his contract was not renewed.
His name is Jeff Peterson.
And he's the principal.
Yes.
One school there, the Raymond.
Raymond School.
It's K through eight.
So those, those kids then kind of quasi graduate and then go to Union Grove High School.
Okay.
So Jeff Peterson and the interesting thing about Jeff Peterson is this is a guy who went to school at Raymond.
Okay.
He also taught at Raymond, but in the late late 90s early to actually I think he left in 2001.
He was there for seven years leaves and becomes gets as administrative license and then becomes principal at other schools.
And then ends up getting recruited back when he was from Yorkville school in back into Raymond school.
And his family has a really strong kind of tie to the school.
His dad was on the school board.
His mom was on the PTO, his aunt would like literally was serving the school lunches.
So he's, he's a Raymond guy, right?
So he becomes the school principal back in 2001.
Right as COVID is kind of wrapping kind of winding down a little bit, right?
They're just going back to in person school.
And COVID really had a, took a really big toll as it did all over the United States.
Because you had COVID, you had the race riots, you had the elections all at the same time.
And this kind of manifested itself.
So on Wednesday night, the school board decided to not renew Jeff Peterson's contract.
And what does that mean?
He was put on paid, on paid leave in September based on allegations of misconduct.
That was based off of a performance improvement program.
And we can kind of get into the weeds a little bit about that because it's really interesting.
But this is also, there's another dynamic here in play.
The school board has changed drastically over the last couple of years and has been taken over by a group called Moms for Liberty.
And Moms for Liberty is a kind of a grassroots organization that has really made its mark in banning books, curriculum changes.
They have also really ousted a lot of principles and superintendents.
And this is happening all across the nation.
And so that's the kind of the conflict that we've kind of got going on.
So it's a very, it's very divisive.
Like I'm told, my sources told me that up until COVID, nobody used to go to this school board meeting.
And now, like probably at least 150 people that show up to a school board meeting.
And what's been also interesting is there's been a number of shifts of how the school board conducts its business.
So they haven't been been allowing public comment.
They do majority of their conversation actually happens in closed session.
And so this is really kind of spurred on a lot of conflict.
So you've got the principal who is gay now alleging discrimination against the school board and the school superintendent.
The school superintendent is leaving.
He's resigning as of December 31st.
There's a lot of people.
So the staffing level of this school is about 30, 30, 35.
They've lost 99 staff over the last year.
Also, a lot of parents are pulling their kids.
And this is really putting things into some pretty big conflict and up people.
We're going to stop right there for a second because we're going to take a break here.
We're talking about the big story and more to it, right?
Yep.
That's more.
Boy, this and the victim's a little kids are trying to get, you know, reading, writing, arithmetic and all this is going on behind the scenes.
And how do you learn in that atmosphere?
Anyway, more with the needs coming up in the morning.
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It's 621 at WRJ and Radio.
And I've got Denise Lockwood here from Mercy County.
I were talking about their story that they broke on the Raymond School.
And continue the story where you left off Denise.
So I'm going to kind of start like at the beginning,
because I kind of gave you the summary, the reader's digest version.
So my sources were telling me that this all started kind of the tinder,
you could say, of this whole fire started back in like spring of 2001.
And in 2001, you had an election.
And it was an entirely new school board that came on.
And then also you had COVID, the race riots, you had the elections,
and everybody's home and together.
And so they had virtual school, right?
And some of these kids were really struggling with this virtual school thing.
So they basically started changing their profile photos to Black Lives Matter,
Pride, Trump, Confederate,
fell eggs, and the school's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, let's tap the brakes on this.
And they send this letter and say, basically, look, these are extensions of your classroom.
We just don't want to need distractions.
And some of the parents were like, why are you telling my kid what to wear,
what not to wear, and what they can have in their room and not have in their room?
And this is a freedom question.
And don't squash my rights to speak, correct?
And so that kind of carried over that tension,
carried over when they went back to school into the playground in the classroom
and their interactions with teachers.
And so I was told by a parent, and I can't name them because this was told to me in confidence
that they didn't want me to use their name.
But there were some issues with regards to racial bullying in that context.
I'm not going to go into a lot of detail, but...
So the school basically took a step back and said, what can we do to help kids
stop bullying each other, right?
And so there's a thing called social-emotional learning,
and it has been taught in schools for 40 years.
It's the be kind to others and keep your hands to yourself, Johnny,
and stop bullying the girls' pigtails in front of you, kind of stuff, right?
And so this curriculum has changed and it's been a very big source of controversy
within a lot of conservative groups.
And there's the levy or the pushback is, you're indoctrinating my children to be gay,
you're talking too much about gender identity and gender bias.
And so this is one of the motivating factors for a lot of the conservative groups
to take over the school boards.
So this happens, they have this pretty big incident that happens on the playground,
and the school's response was to bring in two authors that are black from Chicago
to talk to the kids about racism, and they wrote a book called Brotherly Love.
And the one man, I'm not enough coffee moment, I can't remember his name,
but he's a school principal down in Chicago, and basically they have this,
and so the parents, some of the parents really reacted to them saying
that they were teaching their kids to ignore their white heritage,
and this was the tender that fanned the flame, right?
And so this is what Jeff Peterson walked into, all right?
And so he's really wanting to build collegiality within the teachers,
so he starts having doing the thing he does,
which is like, let's do a scavenger hunt.
Let's do, you know, to unify the teacher's boost morale,
because during this time frame, there's also COVID,
and a lot of people in the school system were like, we don't want masks,
we don't want to go back to school, we want to go back to normal,
which is not an unreasonable thing, right?
And there was this really big struggle, and there was this,
there started to be a lot more kind of visceral reaction towards teachers,
and it was a really hard time for a lot of people,
because you also had parents who were like stuck at home with their kids,
like there's just a lot, right?
And so as Jeff is really trying to kind of navigate this,
the teachers, there was this divide then,
and there's this discussion around social emotional learning,
and there was a new superintendent brought in,
and then there was also an investigation into Jeff's handling
of these specific efforts to unify the school.
So there was a scavenger hunt, and basically the scavenger hunt,
there was a whole laundry list of things that they wanted the teachers
to get to build community, right?
So one of those things was that he wanted the teachers to go to the,
there are some of their students' houses,
and take photos of them reading together in their rooms,
and to like if they had a pool, they could take pictures of themselves
with the teacher in the pool, or at the pool side,
or something along that line, and they're bathing suits,
and having fun, and this became a bigger issue,
and then there was a couple of other things with regards
to his behavior, and so that was the source of this divide
that had happened, and also how he handled it as a principal
to navigate these things, right?
So this was one of those things where the school board
was really adamant about trying to kind of get everybody
to really focus on learning, right?
And there was a lot of pushback on Jeff
to bring these teachers together,
but the problem that I was told from my sources
is that there wasn't a divide between the teachers,
so there was this survey, bottom line,
Jeff was supposed to fix the divide,
and there's disagreement of what this divide was,
was it between the teachers, was it because of the social-emotional learning curriculum,
they ended up throwing the social-emotional learning curriculum
in the garbage, like physically threw it away,
and for several months, they started this year
on not having any social-emotional learning,
and so this created a lot of tension between parents
and then the idea...
Oh, you didn't have to stop him for a little word.
Hold it right there. It's like a date line episode.
I know, right? Hold it right there.
Denise Lockwood, Racine County Eye, is here
telling about the story involving Racine, the Raymond School,
more coming up in just a moment, 629 at WRJN Radio,
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Denise Lockwood is here from Racine County Eye,
we're right in the middle of this story.
This is like a 2020 story or a date line story
about the Raymond School and the principal there,
and what's going on there, and you broke this story,
and let's continue on what we left off to you.
Yeah, so there's conflict between the parents
and the administrators and the principal,
and so the school board, during the same time,
this is kind of like there's two, three story lines going on
at the same time.
So, some of the school board members,
there's a woman by the name of Gwen Keller,
and she is emailing the superintendent Michael Garvey.
Basically, the school board meets at a retreat
at one of the school board president's homes.
They don't want anybody from the public to attend
because it's a retreat, which is not legal,
but it's one of those things where the Sheriff's Department
said that it was fine.
There's some questions around that,
but basically they set this goal,
the goals for the district,
and all of the school board members
were to submit their goals for the district,
so that they could have some consensus
and drive policy through those goals.
So, Gwen Keller submits an email to Dr. Garvey,
and it's this laundry list of,
I think it was 32 points,
and all of it was focused on the Moms for Liberty agenda
around woke culture, getting rid of woke culture,
meaning that they wanted to review
and approve all of the training for the teachers,
the curriculum, no BLM or Pride decorations
in the classrooms,
and they really wanted to get rid of social emotional learning
because they felt like that was indoctrinating their children.
And so, there's several questions that she asked,
Dr. Garvey around whether or not the teachers,
they could make a policy around having teachers
not talk about sex.
There's also a couple of months later,
she starts asking, telling Garvey,
that some of the parents were uncomfortable
with him teaching human growth and development
to the boys because,
and she doesn't say it's because he's gay,
but she says, I want another person in the room,
and this is a man who's taught,
had been in education for 29 years.
So, the argument on his side is like, look,
this is not, I'm not turning your kids gay.
And so, she, there's this conversation
that she, that Gwen has with Dr. Garvey around that.
And that's, in a sense, what happened is,
there were people that were supposed to be in the room
while he was teaching human,
the boys, human growth and development.
And the reason why was because he, the school,
they had lost several, like, nine teachers out of 30, right?
Not necessarily teachers, I am a spoke, the ninth staff.
They had lost that, the person that did that, that work.
So, there's this big uproar
about the performance improvement program.
There were, there was also a part,
as part of this, and you asked me when we were off air,
how I know this is true.
I know it's true because the open records requests,
they posted all of these emails online.
Because I asked you because if one person tells you something,
how do you know that I have a grudge, they didn't get it right?
Right.
So, you have to have a backup.
Yeah, so I have what's called primary documentation.
That's a fancy journalism word where you need to get original,
like, what we call kind of closest to the fire
of, of, of, had the highest invest information.
So, that's how I know this, this is true.
Also, I talked to a, probably a half a dozen people
that worked there.
And one of the things that is,
that Jeff feels is mischaracterized,
and a lot of the teachers do as well,
is that the school district kept saying
there's a divide between staff.
And I talked to the teachers,
and they say, say, no, there's no divide between staff,
but they did have a divide between the teachers
and Garvey.
And because he came in,
and the testimony from this public hearing from Wednesday
was that Dr. Garvey came into clean house,
that he had told teachers,
but said he did not recall these conversations.
A number of teachers told me that they felt like he was telling them
about all of the people he had gotten out the door
so that they, he, they knew that they were on thin ice
and to kind of tow the line with regards to how they were teaching things.
By the way, this is all going on,
while kids are trying to learn in the classrooms.
Right. Yeah.
And he wanted one of the things,
so I'm a very big, I'm nerd, news nerd,
so I look at data.
So the, and the meantime,
you've got a lot of kids who are not doing as well.
So, Raymond School has always really enjoyed
a very strong testing performance review.
So they used to be at 80,
I think in back in 2021,
2021 school year in 21-22,
it went from 77 and now it's down to 70
for their, their total overall school performance report.
And so this has had not just COVID,
but this conflict between,
on the politics,
a lot of the people that I was talking to
is they, they don't want politics in school,
but that's in essence what is happening.
And so.
The kids know any of this is going on?
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
And this is playing out more towards like the middle school.
One of the things that I've also,
I've talked to a lot of parents who have,
and I've talked to parents,
and Raymond School is about 88% white
and you've got probably about,
a handful of kids who are black,
and then the rest of the kids,
kiddos are Hispanic, Latina.
And so the,
there has been issues,
and it's not in everyday occurrence I was told,
but that they really struggled with how to treat one another
because they were seeing mom and dad
and family really struggle with politics and race.
And so this is one of the things
that social-emotional learning addresses.
So, you know, when you're talking about social-emotional learning,
you're like,
okay, how do you build relationships?
How do you problem yourself?
Those are the elements of social-emotional learning.
Now here's where it kind of went sideways.
So there was a class.
One of the things that was talked a lot about
was the, there's a gender bias class.
And parents who,
some parents took a really big issue
because there is a girl in this video
that was dressed like a boy.
And so the mindset was,
you're teaching my kids to be gay.
And the school was saying,
that's your inference,
not what actually is shown to be valid in their portrayal.
They're, they're thinking on this.
Now the state
has standards around this.
And the reason why they teach SEL
is because they know
that when you teach kids to problem-solve
manage their emotions,
be more mindful.
They graduate.
They, and there's a lot of data around this.
And this is one of the,
like keeping the peace in the classroom
is definitely a good thing.
But also it helps kids learn better.
That's why they do it.
And they've been doing it for like 40 years.
But it's kind of morphed to address different issues.
And one of the things that happened,
probably I want to say,
2015, 2016,
is you had specifically in this area,
a lot of suicides and kids
that were identifying as gay.
And they were being bullied.
And so the suicide rate
for, among teens,
had skyrocketed.
And so the schools basically said,
look, we want to make sure that
the kiddos are okay
and that we've got.
We're addressing this.
Because a lot of this plays out in the classroom
is what I'm being told by my sources.
So those are some of the things
that they were trying to address.
And politics have kind of
warped the conversation
and it's supercharged.
And it's really interesting
from the perspective of a communications professional.
And how we're taking these elements
and how we're reacting to it
on social media
and in the school board meetings.
So there's a moment in this school board
at Raymond's school where the curriculum director
is making this presentation.
And one of the parents is saying,
you're teaching my kid how to be gay.
And she's like, no, we're not.
And then the district decided
we're going to get rid of
social-emotional learning.
And the superintendent, what's interesting.
And this is kind of how things played out.
So the superintendent gets,
they didn't have a curriculum committee to begin with.
They make this curriculum committee.
He appoints two of the school board members
that identify, have been carrying out
this mom's for Liberty Agenda.
And they stop inviting
the curriculum director to the meetings.
They also have the principal take a look
at three different programs.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The bottom line is at the end of the story,
they throw away the social-emotional learning curriculum.
So it went in the garbage.
And they were already paying for it.
And so those are some of the things that happened
to the parents.
Then there's two different parent groups.
One that supports the school board
and ones that do not support the school board.
And so there's an effort to recall
two of the five school board members.
There is a Jeff Peterson
has a complaint about the school district
around the discrimination.
There is also a lawsuit,
a lawsuit that the pro,
or I'm sorry, not the pro parents,
but the actual parents that are against the school board,
they are asking Judge Mark Nielsen to intervene
because this all came to a head in August.
So in August,
there's this thing called an annual meeting.
And it's called the Raymond School
as a common school district,
which means they have an annual meeting
and a ton of parents and teachers
and community members come to the school
and say,
we want you to do,
to stop using money,
our taxpayer money to fund the defense
against this discrimination lawsuit.
We want you to not fire the principal.
We want you to make sure that there's another element
and I'm having one of those not enough coffee movements
and I apologize.
But there's this lawsuit against the school board
basically saying they want,
oh, they want to fire Dr. Garvey.
That's the other thing.
Is he going to clean house?
Yes.
And now he's the guy who's on the hot seat.
Yes.
Okay.
So there's a lot.
Now that's what the micro story is.
The macro story of all of this.
I talked to,
this is happening.
What I just told you is happening at Raymond School
is happening all across the nation.
Okay.
So the Brookings Institute,
I spoke to a woman by the name of Rachel Pereira
the last week who has explained to me
they're doing research around board governance
and the influence of moms for liberty
on these school boards.
Wow.
This is some story.
We're not done with it yet.
No.
Oh, wow.
Wow.
I just thought we're going to be like five minutes.
Oh, well, the guy got fired and now people are upset.
No.
All right.
Denise Lockwood is here from Racine County.
I was talking about the Raymond School
and the controversy going on over there,
which she broke the story,
which is an amazing story.
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We have Denise Lockwood from Racine County Eye here.
And we're talking about the story of the broken Racine County Eye.
Big story about Raymond's school.
Now do you know exactly where you left off?
I do.
Okay.
Let's go back to that story, Denise.
All right.
So let's zoom out a little bit.
So all of this political discord and
is happening in Raymond's school.
And so to understand the mobs for liberty movement,
I think is really important because it's really interesting.
So in 25 years of being a journalist,
I have never seen a takeover of a school board like this ever.
And one of the things that is unique about how this is happening
is that the mobs for liberty group
is definitely a force to be reckoned with.
It's also been listed on the Southern Poverty Law Centers.
Hate group lists because of its anti-government, anti-black lives matter,
LGBTQ focus.
And a lot of it,
I was talking, there's also a stop the mobs hate group as well.
And so there's a battleground that is happening not only locally,
but it's starting to form nationally.
And yesterday I spoke to a woman from the stop the mobs hate group,
which actually started in Florida around the very same things
I'm telling you about have played out in Florida.
That's kind of where it grew up and was started.
And so there's a lot of political gain
that can be happened here now.
Why would I say that?
So there is a video on the mobs for liberty Wisconsin website.
And it is from during the presidential debates in August.
And the organizers are talking a lot about the reason why
they want to have people join these school boards
is to help the up-ticket.
Now that's political strategy, right?
But there's a larger piece to this that I think is interesting
because one of the other things that locally has happened,
which is my lens, right?
My little local news nerd lens,
is that you're also having a very big impact on school budgets.
So I told you a lot of parents are pulling their kids.
Raymond is not a large school district.
It is not a rich school district.
So now they are paying the contract out for Jeff Peterson
for the end of July.
So they're paying that amount.
They also have hired an interim school principal.
They're losing this superintendent.
They've gone through six principals
and six superintendents within the last 11 years.
There is a lot of instability in this little school, right?
And they're also paying for another school curriculum
they're also defending these lawsuits.
I want to get my hands on Dr. Garvey,
that school budget that has line items
and I'm going to kind of call him out a little bit
because this is one of the things that I really need
because it is an open,
I had to file an open records request to obtain a budget.
And we can give it to you, huh?
They just went hand it over.
So there is the serve,
the school, the budget summary.
That's what I got.
And there is the full budget with all of the line items.
It's a nerdy thing and I need it
because I want to understand these things.
And so that has been,
from journalistically a big challenge,
the other challenge that I've had
has been getting people to talk to me on the record.
People are very scared in Raymond.
To talk, they're very divided.
I'm hearing a lot of retaliation stories.
And so like even on Wednesday morning,
I have emails from the administration telling teachers,
we're going to investigate you.
The morning of this hearing, which was Wednesday, okay?
So there's a very big chilling effect.
This is making people very nervous
and these are our kids.
And so I have been told by numerous sources
that there is a limit to how much people are going to take.
And you're seeing that play out within the legal system.
You're seeing it play out in how many students they've lost.
One of the school board members even pulled her children
out of Raymond's school.
So this is, this is an interesting dynamic.
And from a journalist standpoint, it's a challenge.
Is it your match?
That's on the Harper Valley PTA.
Remember that song?
You know, that's, you know, it's funny.
That was filmed in Lebanon, Ohio.
And I used to live there when I was a little punk.
That's what this reminds me of.
The Harper Valley PTA song where all this stuff
is going on in this little tiny town of Harper Valley.
But it's not just, I want to make sure that you understand.
It's not just Raymond, okay?
Dr. Eric Gallian, who used to be the superintendent
for Racine Unified, went to Charlotte.
This same thing happened to him.
Oh, it doesn't go all over America.
Yeah, yeah.
So it's, this is destabilizing the American education system.
All this going on under everybody's nose
when they go to bed at night.
Mm-hmm.
Hang in for a few more minutes, okay?
Okay.
You got, I know you didn't bring your coat.
Then we have a problem with you in the coffee last time you were here.
I know.
I didn't have time.
You don't learn.
It was, all I could do to print for this morning.
Yeah, because it's on TV.
I know, right?
You want to make sure that gets done.
All right.
Denise Lockwood from Racine County, I answer.
That's some story.
It is.
And we're going to do one quick wrap up on that story
when we come back to let us know where all the players are right now.
And the story's not over, right?
No.
It's just getting started.
Now, did somebody, did other people pick up on this story?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
So the ACLU hasn't picked it up.
But they're paying attention.
Yes.
Okay.
Clear sky.
I think it's maybe Sunday.
Now, I got to hook my beak out the window there and find out.
46 degrees.
A beautiful day today.
With a hundred fifty-five.
Some rain tonight.
Maybe.
Lose forty-four.
But becoming mostly Sunday tomorrow with a hundred fifty.
And Sunday.
It's going to be cloudy with a hundred thirty-six.
It's six fifty-nine.
At WRGN News, coming up right now.