
But I think the best job, like in the history of the United States, I think Banna White
got the best job ever.
Is that not the best job?
If I were a woman, I would, I would want that job so bad, like that's her, that's her job.
Like what a country, that's all she, she just turns letters, I turn letters, but only when
they go out.
Okay, so, I'm not the, but like, what was the interview like to get that job?
What was that process?
That must have been really tough.
They're like, alright, let's start, let's start the interview here, Banna White, is
that right?
Okay, alright, let's start.
Alright, are you familiar with the alphabets?
You are.
Okay.
If something were glowing, could you tell?
You could, well that wraps it up, wow, welcome aboard, it's very impressive, it's very impressive.
I could do that job, everybody thinks they can, but under pressure, would you be able
to turn over the vowels, would you be able to, would you think, if they said, I'll take
a T, would you be able to determine if it's a T, P, or B, they said, see it's a high-pressure
job turning those letters, and Banna just signed up, she's going to be with the new
host of Wheel of Fortune, so she's going and going, good for her, good for her.
I'm Don Rose, and thanks for joining us, 707 at WRJN, it's your heard, Cloddy today
with a high-tier 46, right now it's Cloddy in 45, Thanksgiving Day, looks nice and sunny
with a high-tier 45, don't you love it?
Mike Crude is joining me now, he's the host of The Devil's Advocate here on WRJN, the
Civic Media Radio Network, and he's one of the people who started this network, he is
one of the partners, and Mike thanks for joining us this morning, thanks for waking up, I appreciate
that.
Good morning, Don, there's a reason I'm not a morning guy, let the early birds amongst
us do the morning shifts, I do the late afternoon, the drive shift, because this is not my normal
time of getting up, you got me up early this morning, Don.
You know, a lot of my guests say that, I give them a choice, do you want the 6 or 7 AM interview,
oh, 7, we had one...
Yeah, no one ever, no one ever backed for the earlier slot, do they Don?
Well, I had one guy, I said to him, the show is on from 6 to 8, he said, can I come on
at 9, I said, no, no, the show is on from 6 to 8, he said, then I'll take the 8, it
was an 8 o'clock interview, no, I said it's on from 6, it's over at 8 o'clock, it ends,
he said, could you give me a wake up call then about 7.15, and I did, I gave him a wake
up, he was an older guy, and I gave him a wake up call, and he said, thanks, alright,
I'll be ready in about 15 minutes, now I'm the wake up service, like the hotel guy, that's
the way...
Where was my wake up call, why don't I get that sort of service done?
Now you're on radio, you can get up anytime, all I do is have some dead air playing in
the background, radio people, you know, I could be talking to somebody, and when I hear
silence on the radio, all of a sudden I perk up, it's just one of those things.
The Devil's Advocate, how long have you been doing The Devil's Advocate show?
It was before Civic Media started.
Oh, certainly it was, started doing The Devil's Advocates, and there's two of us, so we have
Devil's Apostrophe Act, like The Devil's Advocate would be the singular, but since there's
two of us, we also make Advocates plural to confuse the people, but we've been doing
this since, really the Scott Walker recall, here in the state of Wisconsin, we started
November of 2011, we came together by College Roommate Night, and we started doing a little
Saturday show, and by the next year, they asked, and we asked, if we could do it every
day, weekday, you know, everybody wants the weekday slot, like you've got done, and here
we are, these 12-ish years later, still doing it each and every day, and it's truly the
joy of my life, Don, I mean, my family, my wife, but from a working perspective, to get
to spend a couple hours a day with your best friend on the radio, is really a joyful thing.
You know, and people say, is it a tough job, I think it really is tough, and you know what,
it's not, let's face it, this sitting here and talking is not that tough.
This is not ditch digging, I readily agree.
You know, I was talking to the guys doing the plumber, I had a lot of plumbing done
in my house recently, it's a very old house, and we're doing all the pipes to copper, and
I see this guy up and down the steps, huffing and puffing, I said, I got to go record now,
could you imagine, I said, this is tough for, you know, I have to go out and think and talk
at the same time, without going, um, um, um, that's very tough, and he said, you have my
sympathy, but you know, as, as Michael Corleone said, and the Godfather, this is the life
we've chosen.
Absolutely, I heard you earlier talking about, you know, what do you want to be when you
grew up?
I wanted to be the voice of the Badger, that's what I wanted to be, and uh, Matt Lopez, not
going anywhere.
I've got to tell you, I am, of all the radio stations that Civic Media, uh, it has association
with, I am most envious of WRJN, because you have the full compliment of the sports down
there, you got the Badgers, you've got the Bucks, you've got the Packers, and for 2024
in the spring, we got the Drillers back on this station.
I am so pumped about the sports coverage, uh, especially on WRJN, that is, to my opinion
Don, that is the best radio station in the state for, for sports coverage.
And you know, I'll, uh, little shop talk here, when I first got to Milwaukee radio, I was
in Milwaukee for 10 years, WTMJ radio had the exclusive on all the sports.
They owned everything, and nobody can get near it.
And now here we are, just a few miles away, and we've got everything.
I don't know how that happened.
Well, that was my greatest desire, was to stack up all the sports.
And when we purchased WRJN, and just so we're clear, uh, Sage Weil is the owner of, of Civic
Media, uh, I, I am like the junior, junior partner, but I got to be the guy that went
out and got to make the deals.
And I am the acquisitions guy for Civic Media, effectively, for both stations and also sports
partnerships with all these different franchises.
So first I got to buy the station, and then I got to cast all the sports.
And what that means is you make partnership deals with the broadcast networks, uh, in
this case, Learfield for the Badgers and the Brewers radio network, and we still work
very closely with WTMJ and, uh, for both the Bucks and the Brewers partnership, uh, WTMJ
and Craig Carmeson's always been a really good guy to me.
We actually are operating some former stations owned by Craig Carmeson.
He's, he's been a guy I've done a lot of business with through the years, uh, the owner of WTMJ.
And, uh, you know, we're, we're not that, we're not WTMJ, but from a sports perspective,
we have the Packers they use to have, we have the Bucks, we have the Brewers, and we have
the Badgers and I don't know if they've ever had that here in the Milwaukee market, uh,
but we do.
And I was very excited about that.
Before we get to our lineup here, uh, there was a time years ago when I said, let's get
some bowl games on the air.
Now we had some networks that gave us some of the major bowl games.
We had ABC, we had Mutuals, so we, we had some of the bowl games, but some of them were
mom and pop operated bowl games, hard to believe, but they were some of the lesser bowl games
are these mom and pop operations.
So I contacted them and I got some more bowl games and I got this, this thing about me where
I had to get them all and we had 31 bowl games on the air, every single one possible.
And so I went to the general manager and they sold it like that.
They said, have a commercial in every single bowl game.
Now, what we had to do was we had to record a lot of them and play them back because some
of them were at the same time.
So we were running bowl games all night up to five o'clock in the morning because they
run four hours, three, four hours sometimes.
And so we're running them all night long and but we got 31 at the time they had 31 bowl
games.
We got them all in and they said, what about next year?
I said, never again.
You know why?
Because you had to track down these mom and pop operations that own the rights of these
bowl games and they'll give them to you.
Then you had to be able to tune into the satellite to get it.
And luckily we had a giant, you've seen this, I don't know if you've seen this, a giant
satellite dish in our backyard, but we were able to get all the satellite channels for
the bowl games, but I would never do it again.
It was towards trouble.
It wasn't just trouble getting them, it was trouble making sure they all got on the air
because you'd have three games at the same time.
So we're taping them on different reel to reel tape recorders at the time.
There was no internet or anything like that, but it was fun doing that.
Who comes on?
Let me swap you back to a quick radio story.
The gentleman that sold Civic Media WRJN is a guy by the name of Dave Magnum.
And Dave's and I through the process of negotiating the deal.
And there was more than one station involved in that deal.
But Dave and I became pretty good friends and Dave and I don't have the same politics.
I've always been accused of being a little lost at center.
And Dave ran for Congress as a Republican once upon a time.
But I heard you talking about the Friendsgiving.
We had a Friendsgiving at our lake cabin this weekend.
And lo and behold, one of my honored guests was the guy that sold me WRJN.
Dave Magnum.
Oh, okay.
Dave and I, I've never worked so hard to make a radio deal.
Then through the purchase of WRJN, we had 51 hours of negotiations face to face
and over direct negotiations between Dave and I to bring that deal to the completion.
So I feel like the guy's part of my family now.
And, you know, be careful what you wish for.
Now I've got a Republican uncle.
And he's got two great sons who I've worked with out of us here.
Reed and they're quite a family affair.
And I admire that about Dave and I know he, I'm also a family guy.
And I know that we admire that about each other.
You know, we have a lot in common in that we, you know, what do you know?
We love our families and we care about, you know,
the sort of world that they live in.
Yeah, radio people, you know, you bump into radio people all the time over all
the year and radio and I've never run into one I didn't like, you know,
sometimes you disagree with them, but we have just a, I'll tell you what,
after the break, we'll discuss it in detail.
But who comes up after me today?
It's Earl Ingram.
The Earl Ingram and not only that, but he's got Gilbert Brown.
They do under the helmet on the Monday mornings.
The grave digger joins them.
The, the Gilbert Brown, who was on those Burger King commercials or whatever
they're always eating.
Backer Hall of Favor.
Yes, sir.
You know, I'm going to tell you something real quick here at the Packers
where I'm going to be buried in Union Grove.
I am up at my plot is there's a, there's a member of the Green Bay Packer
fan hall of fame.
He was inducted into the fan hall of fame in Green Bay, Lambo.
If you, if you go to his grave site, take two steps back four to the left.
You'll find mine.
Oh, jeez.
That's mine.
Well, that's how you find it.
I mean, that's how you find me.
Hold on a second, Mike, my crew is here.
We're talking about the lineup coming up here on WRJN.
So you'll know what's, what's ahead this morning.
You don't have to guess anymore.
That's all straight ahead.
Looking for some clouds today with a hot air 46, maybe some rain after 11 o'clock
tonight, rain ending before noon tomorrow and Thanksgiving day, sunny with a
hot air 45 right now.
It's cloudy and 45 degrees in Racine.
Don't move.
Yeah.
My crew is here with me from Civic Media and the Devils Advocates Program.
You know, did you ever hear the story of what happened to Mark Cohen from the guy who sang
this song?
Did you ever hear that story?
He was in a parking garage and he was carjacked and they shot him and he survived.
But the guy walked up and get out of your car and just pulled a trigger on him and shot
him and just like that.
But he's okay today.
So that's kind of a weird story, huh?
Ever?
No, and I've never been a thing of violent crime, so I've never been, you know, a victim
of it.
But that's got to be frightening, huh?
Yeah, I've got to tell you, driving sometimes in the Milwaukee Metro and I've had the chance
to drive in a lot of big cities and just driving in Milwaukee sometimes, I think, at some of
the craziest drivers in the world.
Oh, come on.
You always have to be fearful on 43 North and South, I believe.
I used to drive in Manhattan.
I used to show for people around in Manhattan.
That's, you know, it's not that the people are running, it's that they drive crazy, you
know, because there's so much traffic, there's so many red lights and they don't want to
wait.
They've got places to go and everybody's double parked and I used to double park, too.
So let's start.
So we got Erlingroom and he was next on WRJM.
Yeah, he's on right after me and 8am until 10am as was as was as goes Wisconsin is at
10 o'clock.
As goes Wisconsin and unfortunately, well, fortunately, the host, Kristen Brigh is a
new mom and she is in the midst of a maternity leave and she's coming back very soon.
We look forward to her returning to the show full time, but Jane Mant Near, anyone that's
listened to a little bit of radio in the Milwaukee Racine Kenosha areas, probably heard Jane
Mant Near before.
She is, I'm, I'm not going to call her a legend because that implies he's been doing it too
long, but she is something of a radio legend.
She is.
Yeah.
She is.
She's been around a long time.
She's been on as goes Wisconsin.
And then we turn to a guy who came from the political side, Todd Alba.
Todd was the chief of staff to Dale Schultz, who's a Republican former Republican state
lawmaker.
He's a Republican former twice selected state Senate leader.
And Todd brings some pretty interesting insights, insights sort of baseball on the political
side from noon to two.
And then, and then it's the twice selected Democratic Party chair of the state of Wisconsin,
a guy who ran for governor once, once upon a time, ran against Tony Evers in 2018.
Matt Flynn, attorney Matt Flynn, and he is direct, Matt Flynn, direct.
And then we ease into the late afternoons with Crudy and Dom on the devil's advocate
show.
And then, uh, Maggie Donne, Milwaukee County Corporate Council, the fact that he puts in
a full day at her big day job and then comes and does one of the most insightful radio shows
at six to seven o'clock, Maggie Donne, the Maggie Donne show.
I got to tell you, I think of myself as the second best broadcaster on the, on the network
and Maggie Donne, I have no doubt that she is worth a listen each and every day.
I never miss the Maggie Donne show.
Good.
And but, and after that, there's, there's an array of varieties, there's one, a different
one each night for the next hour.
Correct.
So we're easing in, starting in December, we're going to ease into a little more entertainment
centric.
There's so many games on WRJN, uh, Pete Schwabba, who actually does a show on Wisconsin Public
Television is a, uh, has put together Hollywood movies before literally raised money, made
movies, and Pete has got quite a resume as, as a sort of an entertainment person.
So, um, watch it is kind of the, the underlying concept, you know, there's so many different
ways to consume media and Netflix and all this stuff, your ways to act your night learning
what's on.
So Pete's going to do an entertainment centric show from eight to 10 o'clock.
That's going to start in December on the Civic Media Network, including WRJN.
And I liked Pete Schwabba a lot.
This is another good guy.
I am surrounded by really good people.
And it is.
Yeah.
It is wonderful people in this company and radio and my wife and I listened on the weekends
when we're traveling around and it's, they had a show talking about the sand cranes,
which I never heard of before, but for some reason I found it fascinating and we're driving
around and we had to get out of the car and wait a second, I got to hear more about these
sand cranes up in northern Wisconsin.
And it was really good.
It was on the weekend.
I don't know the name of the show, but we enjoyed listening to it while we're traveling
and it's just one of those things.
Great programming on the weekends.
So you may have heard it on the up north news, uh, with a guy named Pat Crite Lowes, a health
of broadcaster in his own regard, or a different take raised in the WISCO, which plays at 11
on the weekends, uh, both Saturday and Sunday, if they're not interrupted by sports, uh,
raised in the WISCO is Joel Clayfish.
She is a nationally renowned hunting guy that got out of politics and now hunts full time
on the outdoor life channel on television and does a hunting centric show outdoor centric
show that plays out each 11 noon on Saturdays and WRJN and replays Sundays.
So I don't know which one you are hearing, but yeah, man, we tried to pack it full of
great great weekend programming and some of it's really, it's lightweight.
So you don't have to think it's not a heavy program.
It's just something to relax to, especially if you're driving around.
It's just something light to have on your head and the civic media has got the whole
state covered practically.
I mean, there's a civic media signal just about everywhere in Wisconsin.
There are very few places you cannot hear one or more of our stations.
We have big rural AM stations and then we have SM's like in WRJN.
We've got the 1400 AM, the 99.9 FM and the 98.1 FM.
But we have another station in the, in the, uh, Lake country and then the southern part
of Milwaukee and that is WAUK 540 AM.
Well if you're going north of Milwaukee, that station will take you all the way to Green Bay
and then we got a great station up in Green Bay and we've got stuff in the Fox Valley
in the Northwoods and all across western Wisconsin.
Uh, we have 20 stations, 11 of which are programmed similarly to WRJN.
But again, none of them have the benefit of all the sports that we have on WRJN.
That is our best news talk sports station in the state.
I'm envious of your perch in the morning fair done because that's my favorite
station and I, I do not get WRJN.
Excellent, excellent, excellent.
You know, uh, before we go here, just one little trivia question about WAUK.
They're in 540 AM when I first came to Milwaukee, their call out is for WYLO.
Way low, we're way low on the dial at 540.
That was pretty cool.
Yeah, I thought that was pretty clever.
Hey, my crew, you got to come back.
We've got so many radio stories.
We've got to talk about more about the company, more about the programs.
We didn't have a lot of time, but you got to come back.
I'm going to wake you up once again some morning when you're in the middle of a
dream to get up for you down.
It's merely worth it.
The devil's advocate.
Listen this afternoon at WRJN right here and it comes on at 4 PM, 4 to 6 PM.
Okay.
Thank you, Mike.
Hold on a second, Mike.
Don't go anywhere.
Hold on.
It's WRJN.
Cloddy and 45 degrees now.
Cloddy with a hot air 46 today.
It's 729.
Hi, we're the tokens and you know this song.
Oh, the place for you and the place for me is a local public library.
They have books and things that they lend for free.
It's the latest.
It's the greatest.
It's the library.
Today's public library is more than books.
And if you haven't been there lately, you're missing plenty.
Read, listen, look, take part, learn, grow, enjoy yourself and your public library.
Educational, informational, entertainment, that's sensational.
It's a way of life.
It's for you and me.
It's the latest.
It's the greatest.
It's the library.
It's the latest.
It's the greatest.
It's the library.
Your public library.
Yep, that's it.
It's my public library, the Racine Public Library, and Ashley Sedanio is here.
And thank you for joining us.
Thank you for having me.
And I'm saying it correctly, right?
Yes, yes, you are.
I just want to make sure Sedanio.
Yes, a little tilde over the.
Yeah, I know.
Most people get it wrong.
I know it's a tilde.
Yes.
Thank you for noticing.
How long have you been at the library?
A little over two years.
What did you do before that?
Before that, I was actually a bilingual case manager at a birth to three program.
So working with kiddos with developmental disabilities.
And that leads us into your job at this library, which is not too far from what
you were doing before.
What do you do with the library?
Exactly.
So I am the library social worker.
I am the first full-time social worker that the Racine Public Library has had.
My job, basically, short story is to help folks that come into the library with
social service needs and connecting those folks to resources in the community.
I'm not going to tell you what I need to go to the library and reserve because if
I do it, somebody's going to reserve it and listening on the radio.
So I'm going to keep it a secret.
But over the weekend, I got this DVD flyer for a Christmas thing.
And I said, I wonder if the library's got it.
Now that there's a library habit, it's at the Racine Library.
Oh, nice.
But it's out.
Oh, OK.
But that doesn't mean I can't get it.
It means after they return it, if they return it, I will get it.
But I'm going to run down there today, stamp my name on it and get it.
But I found out the Racine Library had it, so I don't have to buy it now.
Nice. Yeah, that's what the library is for.
And it wouldn't have it in time for Christmas anyway.
If so, this way it's kind of fun.
I won't tell you what it is because people say, oh, really?
I'm going to get down there.
Yeah, they're going to beat you to it.
There'll be 100 reservations before me.
So so at the library now.
So when do they call you in to do your job?
When do you go into action?
So every day, I work there Monday through Friday.
So I am a full time social worker there.
So it's a newer career with to have social workers in the libraries.
It's not very well known, but it is a growing field.
The first library social worker was in California, I believe in like 2009.
Don't quote me on that, though.
2009, let me write that.
Yeah, fact check me.
But it's it's definitely slowly increasing,
but libraries are seeing an increase in social service requests
from patrons that come in.
And so libraries are starting to see that trend that a lot of librarians
aren't trained to handle specific questions or specific situations
that go on in the library.
So it's kind of just that perfect setting.
And it just makes sense to have someone who is trained
and has that background and education to help folks meet those social service
needs or help with mental health issues or very different array of issues
that come up. So having someone that can assist those folks directly
is is a really great thing.
You know, that's interesting because when I was a kid going to the library
and we had a beautiful.
Actually, we had two libraries in my town.
The librarian heard we didn't have a male librarian.
It's always female librarians at the time.
And their job was where you want it.
We didn't want to find the book. It's in the card catalog over there.
Let me help you find it. That's it. Yeah.
There was no social workers.
They didn't have programs there at the library where they read to kids.
It was just you come in, you get your books.
They stamp a card. They stick it in the book.
You better have it back or it's two cents a day.
Let it went up to a nickel. People were out.
Well, you don't have to pay the nickel.
Just return it on time.
Yeah, the word about.
But that was the library and it changed so much.
There are so many programs there at the library now.
We were going to go to breed or disagree the other day,
which is like a talk thing with different couples.
And it's just, you know, I get up at 430 in the morning to come here.
And we were just both so exhausted.
And I said, I'm just going to fall asleep at the table if I go.
Because it's, you know, that time is seven o'clock.
I never thought I'd say that.
And so I just I was so tired, I couldn't go.
But there were so many. I will go next month.
But there are so many programs there at the library.
And for children, too, we had in Melissa last week
and she's in charge of innovation and digital.
I didn't know any of this stuff went on at the public library.
Yeah, lots of people don't.
How to play with how to build robots and 3D printers.
And who knew that stuff went on behind the scenes.
It's so cool.
We did a hot sauce tasting at the library.
I talked about this a couple of times.
I would probably not do it again, burn the inside of my mouth.
And I thought I was going to the hospital.
But it was fun. There were 12 people there.
And there were just two people that couldn't stand number eight
and wanted to go to the hospital.
And we said, what's your problem?
And they're drinking it like it's a milkshake.
And I said, my mouth is on fire. Oh, my God.
And I'm drink.
They give you milk there to drink to kind of cool the fire out.
We'd never do that again.
But it was fun.
Yeah, definitely.
And I think that's what I think a common theme is,
is that libraries are no longer just a place to get books.
Libraries are places to access resources.
They're a necessity in the community.
They're the one place that anyone can walk in
with absolutely no judgment at all.
No requirements are needed to walk into the library
and to use the resources.
So that's why it's just that great bridge
to help folks in the community with almost anything and everything.
At this library, there's something real special, too.
If you want to just sit and it's not like, you know,
Barnes & Noble, where if you take out a book, you sit down and read it.
I mean, it's not that's not what you do.
But the library, you do that.
There's a picture window overlooking the lake, Persian Park.
And you could sit there and just read a book
with this giant window on the second floor of the library.
For hours.
And just, you know, sit on the couch
and just look out the window and read.
It's beautiful. That view every day gets me.
I feel so lucky to get to see that view every single day.
And it's all free.
You know, have to pay for everything.
Exactly.
Used to be, if you wanted a brand new DVD, they charge you, but they stop that.
And now you just get them for free.
It's not a big deal.
And you do sell off some of the stuff occasionally, which is really nice.
So they put their books up for sale.
The ones that nobody wants to read anymore, or they're just out of shape.
And there is a book at the library.
It used to be a reference book, but now you can take it out.
And I have the name of it. It's the history of Racine.
I'm trying to remember the name of it. I have it in my phone.
But it's the history of Racine.
I had somebody from the Racine Heritage Museum the other day.
Oh, yeah, we know that book.
It was published in 1977, but it goes to 1975.
You got to pick up this book if you can get ahold of it.
There's two copies, one at the Racine Library and a really bad copy.
We'll hold it together by scotch tape at another library, but it's very old.
And you can't take it home.
It's the history of Racine from day one to 1975. Wow.
I was interested to find that my home when it was built in the early 1900s
was not even part of Racine.
It was part of nowhere. I mean, it was a county. Yeah. Yeah.
And then Racine kept creeping up.
I saw the history of a house two doors down for me.
It's the latest. It's the greatest. It's the library.
We'll talk about some of the programs coming up.
You may not be familiar with all these programs, but I do want to talk about them.
Yeah, sure.
First, I got to find it on my phone because I just had it here.
And when I was leaning against the phone, I shut it off.
I can't believe it.
I had it all set up and then all of a sudden I just I'd leave it.
That always happens, right? When you need it the most, it doesn't.
It's not there.
Battle of the Books.
It is a battle of the books.
It's an annual Literature Contest in which fourth and fifth grade students
from Racine New Fife School District and Private Racine County Schools
form teams to compete over their reading skills.
That's kind of neat.
Yeah, definitely.
Encouraging literature and reading.
It's it's all great. Yeah.
I like that.
I wrote my autobiography in the third grade, I think it was, and I still have it.
Oh, my gosh.
And when I tell you the opening sentence,
I remember the doctor picking me up and slapping me.
Wow. What a start.
I mean, I remember the moment of birth, according to this biography.
Anyway, what a great memory.
And years, years, decades later, I was reading it.
The people that we had to get together at my mom's house.
And they said, what did the teacher do?
She must have been laughing when she read this thing.
How did she ever think this thing was legit?
Anyway,
upcoming programs, teens, hooks and needles.
By the way, a lot of these programs are for young people,
but they're also if they have adult programs there as well.
And let's see, a senior paint and sip.
I don't know what that is, but it sounds like you can drink
and paint at the same time.
Yeah. So one of our senior staff,
a residential staff that he is a painter, he teaches folks how to paint
and you just have a nice little drink and you just paint.
I'm jealous because I want to take it, but it always gets filled up very fast.
You have to register in advance for it.
Paint and sip. Yes.
What is the
what is the other program we talked about?
Where is it here?
I just keep the hooks and needles.
I assume that's what it sounds like knitting or crocheting.
Yeah. And that that group is for teens.
And that one is also really, really great.
Again, most of the programs at the library really are
the goal is to build community, right?
And to get folks in to use the resources to learn a new skill,
to be able to access different stuff.
So having all of these types of things,
whether that's arts and crafts, tech stuff.
I also run a program called Coffee and Conversation every other Thursday.
And that's just a space where we create community.
And we all sit in a circle.
There's a prompt that said and you wouldn't even imagine
the types of conversations that we get to all the time.
And it's folks that you would never expect to sit down together.
People from all different backgrounds.
And it just allows a space to come together and form community.
So deeper than the conversation I had with Mike Crude and you.
I don't know, maybe you'll have to find out.
Come check it out.
How about rough and rough readers?
Now, this is reading with a therapy dog.
Yeah. So that's also a really great program.
We have really great community partnerships.
And so there are people who bring in their therapy dogs
and it allows kiddos to be able to read to therapy dogs.
And it's like kind of that idea of having that a non-judgmental pet,
non-judgmental animal being able to read to them.
So that's really fun. The kids love it.
I used to tell people, people said, oh, I wish my dog can talk.
I always said to them, before you wish your dog can talk, remember what he's seen.
Yeah, be careful what you wish for.
You may not want that stuff getting out.
And that's for young people.
Yes, correct. That's for kiddos.
Oh, kiddos, you call them.
That's why I heard you say that.
Senior UNO. Is that the UNO game?
Yeah, it is. Yeah, there's lots of senior programings.
Yeah. So lots of, like you said, there are programings for all ages.
So there are programs specifically for young children, like grade school.
There are programs for teens, programs for adults and seniors as well.
And then programs that are also for all ages.
Senior UNO.
My uncle's piano lessons and the girl came over with UNO cards,
but they were like big magician cards with a one foot version of them.
OK. I play UNO all the time.
Yeah, it's a fun game.
Traverse license reinstatement clinic.
Yes. That sounds ominous.
What is that? Yeah.
No, so we also have a like speaking of partnerships.
We have a really great partnership with Lift Wisconsin.
And so they help folks who have issues with their driver's license,
whether that's they they need to pay a fine or their driver's license is suspended
or they have a driving record or whatever it is.
They kind of they have attorneys that volunteer their time at the library
to be able to help folks kind of connect them to the right resources
and kind of walk them down the steps so that they can get their driver's license
reinstatement because a lot of times there's financial barriers.
There's barriers of not knowing what to do when you go to court.
So these attorneys help folks.
And it's great. Yeah, it's really great.
It's a really great reason to drive without a license.
You got to get it reinstated. Definitely not.
Yes, I got a license and you get caught and you may not get caught.
But you may get caught.
You don't want that happening.
Citizenship classes, I know what they are.
Yes, definitely.
That's another great partnership with Voces de la Frontera.
They come every Wednesday for citizenship classes.
You have to register through them, but that's also another really great resource.
When my grandparents came over from different countries, Hungary and Poland,
I don't think there were any citizenship classes.
You just came in and you learned what you learned on your own.
So that that was now you don't have to do that.
And when you learn on the streets, oh, that's great.
The virtual 80 racism book group, that sounds good.
Yeah, that meets every Monday from one to three, and that's actually virtual.
So if you're interested, definitely feel free to have those conversations
and and and look into how to access that.
Never had a virtual class when I was growing up.
You say to have computers.
Now you've got so much of this.
And, you know, and I I harp about this with everybody who comes in from the library.
I like the card catalog.
I know it doesn't exist anymore.
I know we have computers.
I understand that it's much faster.
It's easier to do.
At least a love.
It's way before you give her.
Oh, yeah, 100 percent going through the card catalog.
We used to take field trips to the library when I was in school and the
librarian would teach us how to use everything at the library.
And there wasn't much to use except the card catalog.
My guess is Ashley Sedano.
She is here from the Racine Public Library.
We're talking about her job and some of the things programs at the library.
That's coming up.
Plus, I got some news headlines from Stuart J.
Wattles coming up in just a moment here.
I'm Don Rosen.
We're looking for a cloudy day today with a high near 46 rain after 11 o'clock
tonight into tomorrow.
Thanksgiving Day looks sunny with a high near 45.
It was cloudy when you came in, right?
Yeah, it was cloudy and 45 degrees.
Now it's seven forty nine at W. R. J.
And stay where you are.
Hi, we're the tokens and you know this song.
Oh, the place for you and the place for me.
It's the local public library.
They have books and things that they learn for free.
It's the latest.
It's the greatest.
It's the library.
Today's public library is more than books.
And if you haven't been there lately, you're missing plenty.
Read, listen, look, take part, learn, grow, enjoy yourself at your public library.
Educational, informational, entertainment, that's sensational.
It's a way of life.
It's for you and me.
It's the latest.
It's the greatest.
It's the library.
It's the latest.
It's the greatest.
It's the library.
Your public library.
That's library.
The library.
People still say that kids.
I would assume so.
Yeah, it's like February.
Yeah, February.
It's February.
It's library.
Add about some news headlines to which a wattles in our news center today.
It might be a year or two before shopping carts show up, but the parts of
Regency Mall should be coming down soon.
The Milwaukee Business Journal is reporting on the Woodman's grocery store.
And Racine says 300 apartments are also part of the development.
The Boston store and part of the mall structure will be torn down, making way
for the grocery store and more.
The plan has already received approval for nearly $40 million in tax
incremental financing demolition expected to commence in the spring.
And that's going to be sad to see that Kenosha's first deputy friendly has
passed away and memorials being held later today for Bill Metallo, an
Air Force veteran and the very first law enforcement officer in Kenosha County
to be dedicated to teaching children.
Many Kenosha will remember him as the face behind safety patrol trips,
bike rodeos and neighborhood watch meetings.
He passed away late last week at the age of 82.
The Kenosha Police Department Meanwhile released body camera footage showing
the events leading up to a viral arrest at an Applebee's with an outside
agency's investigation, deeming the officers use of force justified.
However, two officers were suspended for policy violations.
The footage captured the officers pulling the man down when officer
reportedly repeatedly punched him while he was on the ground.
The incident arose from a mistaken suspicion of the man's involvement in a
hit and run crash as the police eventually arrested a different person
at the same Applebee's location.
The missing 82 year old man who has been found, police say Jose Porellis
was found on Washington Avenue in Racine after walking away from his assigned
group home on Wright Avenue.
Police brought him home, excuse me, brought him to the hospital for evaluation.
He's been assigned to the group home for only two days, but had a history
of walking away and cell phone use in schools will be building by building
policy in Racine Unified.
In January, committees consisting of students, parents, teachers, staff and
school administration will be established setting cell phone policies.
This initiative stems from Racine Unified School District's efforts to
reduce cell phone usage in schools and the reducing impact on student learning
and behavior.
Good luck with that.
I don't think kids are giving up their cell phones.
Are they crazy?
It could have happened.
Well, they could try.
You know, I don't think I'm trying to remember what the big thing was in our
school. I don't think we ever had anything.
We can never bring anything in.
There were no cell phones.
Times are very different.
Yeah.
I don't know how people, how teachers prevent students from using chat GPT and
all these resources, doing their book reports.
I don't know how you prevent that.
I know when you stole them from Wikipedia, they could say, well, I found out on
Wikipedia, but with chat GPT, it's a lot harder.
And, you know, you, a quick story here.
I have a lot of stories.
My typing teacher was three feet tall.
She was a dwarf and, you know, she had the large head, little arms, and she
stood on a box in front of the class, but we had big manual typewriters.
When she got off the box, she couldn't see over the manual typewriters.
You could hear her coming, but you couldn't see her coming.
And as long as we didn't hear her, we would cheat.
We'd have the little typing thing on our hand because the letters were all
moved out all over the keyboard.
And we used to type and she stood up there one day and looked at all the boys
in the back of the room.
The girls were up front, boys in the back.
And she said, I know you're going to cheat.
You're going to get your A plus, but I promise you, you won't know how to type.
Yeah, yeah, go back to Emerald City.
They'll leave us alone.
I think of Ms.
Cole every day when I have to type something, because I type with one finger.
Oh my gosh, would you look at that A plus in typing?
Oh my gosh.
And I think about that lady every day of my life.
You're scarred.
Ms. Cole.
And she was such a sweet lady and she was so right.
And she knew her, she knew she couldn't see over the typewriter.
She's only three feet tall and a very tiny person.
And we all took advantage of her that she knew we were doing this and there's
nothing she could do about it.
Yeah, maybe you should take a typing class at the library.
That way you don't type with one finger.
I can't believe that.
And I got an A plus in typing.
That's hard to believe.
Storytime of the week.
You can find our story times and youth services on the first floor.
Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Thursday.
We went to not a story time.
We went to a person there who wrote a book, I think was about some
scary subject in Wisconsin, and it was pretty well crowded.
It was on the second floor.
It wasn't far from that window we talked about.
And it was at night and she and it was great.
There was a guy who gave another one.
And it was just interesting to hear them talking.
He had questions and answers and Q and A.
And it's a fun thing to do.
Yeah.
I mean, get away from the TV and you saw everything on Netflix.
There is to see already going to turn it off and dancing with the stars
isn't good this season anyway.
So shut it off.
And unless you're watching The Amazing Race, that's pretty good.
And you might want notary services.
You can get your notary free, right?
Yeah, correct.
Notary services.
What they do is they don't validate anything you're signing.
They just validate that you signed it.
That that's you.
You show them an ID.
You sign it and you just show them that.
Yeah.
Those are the services I have currently on here.
But there's so much more.
If you go to the changes every month to.
Yeah, exactly.
And like I know we that we touched a little bit on community partnerships.
Ever since I started at the library, we've established a lot of partnerships
in the community.
One of the ones that come to mind is I actually partnered with
well, we actually partnered with the American Heart Association.
They reached out to us and they were like, what can we do
to bridge the gaps of health in the community?
And so we kind of brainstormed and with that partnership, we actually built
blood pressure kits for folks to check out.
So the same way that you would check out a book, you can come into the library
and check out a blood pressure kit that has a blood pressure monitor,
educational information and resources so that folks can check their blood
pressure at home.
So that just goes back to the thing that a library isn't just about books anymore.
You can access programs, reconnecting with the community, but then also those
tangible resources that people need.
And thanks for reminding me of my physical on Wednesday.
Yeah, there you go.
This is what I wanted to remind it of.
I shouldn't have said Emerald City for Ms. Cole, but that's what we said
back then, and I shouldn't have repeated that.
She was such a sweet soul.
And I think of it.
I have a picture of my yearbook, too, when she signed my yearbook and everything.
Enjoy your typing. You got to make plus. You can't type.
I thought you so.
But yeah, I should have said that.
That was a bad comment.
Politically incorrect.
Wasn't incorrect when we said it, but it is today.
And I shouldn't have said that.
She's such a sweet soul.
Ashley Sedanio, thank you very much for coming in.
Yeah, of course.
I know people don't like coming in first thing in the morning, but hey, folks,
you know, I don't mind it. I'm a morning person.
So good for you.
You look like it with your 30 gallon bath of water.
You're brawling today.
Thank you. I'm Don Rose and everyone.
Thank you. Back again tomorrow, 6 a.m.
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