Thank you so much for listening You could be a part as always 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 civic if you want to be a part you better do it today this hour This will be this is the final broadcast of the Dom Salvia show I am moving on and and just what you got going on.
No, I'm also
Also doing that.
Also doing that.
Also doing that.
And joining us today, James Santel, you can listen to his fine program.
He's sticking around.
He is sticking around.
But only Saturday mornings, right?
Saturday mornings.
That was a part of the deal, right?
Absolutely.
Saturday mornings.
9 to 11 a.m.
James is the host of Amicus A Law Review.
He's a former U.S.
attorney, a really smart guy and a friend of ours, and spent a lot of fun over the years.
Man, thank you for joining us today.
It's been a great pleasure, my friend.
And, you know,
This has been like a Wisconsin goodbye.
It's been going on for
us to sit up here and do our thing it's and we could do this in a bar But people actually join us on the radio here to do this and and I I think we have a good time And I think we talk about things that matter and then I think we have a good time And that's how you know you have a good show so thank you couldn't do it without the audience And we're gonna get to all of you.
It's really a celebration of life.
It's a celebration of you
It's
There's certainly truth to that, and I think about this.
You know, when you meet someone and you hang out, you get the connection.
You know, they're always kind of there.
You're always with you, you know, and it does matter.
My parents used to chest as me as a child, hanging on the wrong crowd, you know, that kind of thing.
And now
They'd be so disappointed with me.
But, you know, you take, you take everyone to take you, Jim, you know, I take you just our audience members, you know, people I've met over the years.
Everyone at Civic Media and the organizations and the guests and, you know, they all leave a little mark, you know what I mean?
And they're always in your head a little bit.
And that's been great for me doing the show.
over 13 years.
I can't believe I've been doing this over a third.
I've never had a job this long.
So it's a long time.
I just want to thank everyone who's been a part of the show and really been a part of my growth as well.
And there's a lot of growing to do there for real.
I mean, your New Year's resolution was to grow six inches.
So I need results.
I'm working on it.
Now that the show, I got my afternoon's free.
You can focus in.
That's right.
That's right.
I'm doing a lot of stretching.
A lot of weighted hanging apparently at the gym,
I just want to say I'm going to miss you.
Holly.
I also know where to find you.
I'm just going to miss you over the radio way.
But I just want to thank you for everything.
Not only over the radio, are you a great person to talk to, listen to.
It's also out and about.
And yeah, at 13 years, I haven't been in a job that long.
can't wait to celebrate
I hate goodbyes.
I've been listening to you guys for years!
I know!
Really sad, you know, at 70 you just, you know, you hate to lose some of the best things in your life here, so...
I hope someday you'll be back, but I got all those wonderful memories.
You are wonderful, and I hope you have a wonderful life, and you get to do all the things you ever wanted to.
So thank you, Dom, from the bottom of my heart, and Jess, you're outstanding too, just outstanding.
So guys, just keep it up, and remember tomorrow at nine o'clock, please do not miss one of the...
and I better hang up now before I start crying.
Oh,
So much.
Jeannie's been a great listener, a great caller for, for many, many years.
Appreciate you, Jeannie.
Very nice to hear your voice.
Once again, eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two, eight, five, five, seven, five.
Civic, let's keep going down the line.
Who is next?
Looks like Cam from Appleton, my old stopping grounds.
Hey, Cam, welcome.
What do you got for us?
Hey guys, um, I started listening to The Devil's Advocate.
It was one of the first shows that I started listening to and it was because you guys had some pretty nice voices and I needed some new music to Spotify shuffle.
Man, that thing sucks.
Over the years, I've listened, over the years, I've listened to you guys and then it's just like the rest of Civic.
It's like, okay, Nate's gone.
Matt Flynn's gone.
Uh, crew's gone.
Uh, Anna's gone.
It's just, it just kept going and going.
And it's like, you know what?
Dang guys, like, it's like playing whack-a-mole.
Like, now I have to find a new show.
I have to find new people to listen to.
But like, otherwise, you know, I, I appreciate the work that you guys put into it.
I.
Loved calling in and talking to you guys and listening
Cam will light up the text.
Like, Cam, thank you so much.
I certainly appreciate it.
And listen, this isn't a personal thing with me and Civic or any of that.
I mean, this is just how it is.
This is just a business.
You can't agree on terms and things.
just move on.
That's, and that's fine.
That happens all the time.
We're all adults about it.
I mean, this is, like I said, this has been going on.
This is like the longest Wisconsin goodbye.
And they didn't pull the mic out of me.
You know, I just read the news.
Some, some cat guy let go from TMJ cameras on, uh, boom, done.
This is it.
And over the last couple of weeks, I've seen some folks, some local radio stations, you know, that happens.
It's a, you know, it's unfortunate, but I mean, it goes on and that's what's happening here.
But they didn't pull a mic from me.
They allowed me to just come out here and do the thing because that's what we do because I'm cool.
They're cool.
And we have come on the whole point of civic media and I got to give cruddy a lot of a lot of props for this man.
It was his vision to break carve this thing out of nothing.
Man, I was just talking some smack with my buddy.
That was, it was all about.
And so all of a sudden, all these years later, you see this thing evolve.
And so whether or not it came to this point, you know, people come and go, that, that's going to happen.
That always happens.
Uh, I mean, come on, 13 years doing this.
That's a long time.
As Holly says, she hadn't had a job that long.
And I certainly haven't, like maybe at six years beyond this, and I was part owner of that thing.
So it is, it is, it is special in that regard, but the mission is still there.
The point is still there.
some good conversations and some educations having some fun.
We got some great hosts on this network and I hope everyone still continues to tune in and listen and be a part.
I know I will.
And Dom, I wanted to
follow up on something Cam also mentioned and this is going to be serious when several things are probably coming out.
You talked about work and I have known you.
We'll talk more about that maybe in a few minutes for a great number of years.
You and Crudi were the ones who invited me in way back at the time on Brady Street and from the very beginning.
I came to recognize the amount of work that you put into this.
I suspect all your listeners appreciate the fact that Jess and you do not simply show up every afternoon and open up the newspaper or pull up an article or two and then begin to think about what we want to say about those things, pontificate without any preparation.
Your listeners know this.
I simply wanted to reaffirm the amount of industry that you have brought to this.
It shows it is reflected in the intelligent nature.
Yes, the humorous nature as well.
Those things can go together very, very well.
You have invested in this entity.
You will continue to do that as will Jess and all the things you do and acknowledgement and appreciation for the amount of time and effort you have put into this before, during and after these broadcasts.
That's very kind.
And it is a lot.
It is.
It's kind of a lot.
It's a lot.
It is a lot.
And if you do the show, if you have the opportunity, because not everyone does.
And people can do podcasts, and that's fine.
But you know what?
When you radio, that goes off to the universe, man.
The aliens are going to eventually
No, but that's part of it, because it's not just a job, it's a lifestyle, it's a thing.
And part of that is certainly, of course, the engagement with one of my friends and my co-workers and the audience as well.
And that's going to be the part.
I mean, I'm not going to miss getting up.
There's going to be new habits for me, you know?
And I'm going to have to fill that time, hopefully, productively.
I'm going to spend more time with family.
Oh my
Hey, we've been through a lot together.
Oh, yeah.
Very, very sad to see this show ending.
And I'm even more sad that I don't think anybody knows how to kick CJ's ass the way you did.
And that's going to be something that's going to be hard to duplicate whoever's taking the spot.
You know, that's what it is, but I would like to say that we, the people ultimately are the government and we must never forget that.
And Jeff, you have been awesome as well.
And just also, I'm actually gotten a little fired up about this whole issue with you guys going and I am going to be starting my own organization.
It's not going to be a for-profit.
And it's not going to be a non-profit or for-profit.
It's going to be a labor of love, which is going to be getmoneyout.net.
And basically what I'm going to be doing is anybody out there in the listening audience that wants to get a hold of me, that knows a little bit more about websites and all that kind of stuff.
I know Cam does.
But we need to get money out of politics.
It's the biggest problem.
We need to restore government back to we the people.
Call me every year, don't call me at all.
You leave your PC on, that's your call.
And never.
drag something
last something out, Dominic.
I have spent the past two week working my tail
There's a plan.
James Santel, host of Amicus, a law review broadcasting right here on the civic media radio network on Saturdays, nine to 11, eight AM.
He's joining us for the day.
Jim, thanks for sticking around and joining with, you know, I gotta, I gotta tell you when,
whole thing came down on, on the radio show thing and, and you know, the whole crew thing blew up.
That was like Labor Day of last year after the DNC and had some bad broadcast.
Wasn't happy with that whole scene.
So, you know, Civic and I continue to just make a deal, just go forward as this and we'll figure it out.
Like, all right.
Like, Hey, what about, you know, I haven't like, you know, a cascade of
Co-hosts.
I'm like, well, that's a terrible idea.
You know, I was like, come on, man.
I could pull two hours.
But it has been so much fun.
I'm so glad.
I'm so glad I didn't, like, poo poo that whole thing.
And at first I was like, you know how I get just my idea?
What's my first answer and everything?
No.
No.
I'm always a no.
I'm always
our
And Justice Studies.
And
And
Of course, I did with Maggie Dawn.
We did some overtime.
And in case you had missed it, we kind of go on each other's shows.
And on Wednesdays, Matt Rothschild will come around, man.
And then Earl on Thursdays and Jim on Fridays.
And these schedules kind of came and went and changed, depending on people.
it's kind of been that thing, and it has been an absolute blast to be able to do this, not what Jeff was just, but with all my friends.
You're all my friends, and we were friends before this, we're gonna be friends after this, and that is one of the most joyous things about the job that I will miss the most.
And it's a familiarity, right, that also promotes exactly that.
The listeners, as you said before, they bring a huge amount
to this, that conversation also.
And even if the insights and perspectives that they bring to the conversation aren't always yours, ours, mine, that's a good thing too.
And that affirms the power of speech and what radio should be all about.
Well, and it fires up some of the other callers.
Hi, Dom.
Steph told me I needed to call.
You guys are going to cancel the baby shower tomorrow.
done.
No, you got me through the first nightmare eight years ago.
So I'm just going to call and say thanks, buddy.
Thanks for being my friend on the radio and
getting me through the first time.
Sorry.
I didn't catch up with the second time, but it's going to be an empty spot in my heart for you.
it.
Oh, tomorrow.
yet.
I'm
You know, we went all the way back
Heartless Radio days, and we partied together.
And
never forget.
Yeah.
explore.
Yes.
And I remember finding out Donald Trump won in 2020, excuse me, 2016 at Fox with you and Crudi.
Oh, God.
a night.
And here we are again.
through it
support.
Yes.
And I wish you the best of luck.
You and Jess.
Jess is awesome.
You know that, right?
got a joke for you.
good.
One last joke.
last joke.
What's the difference between an oral thermometer?
and a rectal thermometer.
What's
difference?
The
I was thinking that, but I'm not gonna say that.
Yup, that was it.
The one time I got Claire's joke, I'm like, I can't say that.
Thank you, Claire.
Appreciate you finding us again, and we'll find you again soon, I'm sure.
855-752-4842-855-755.
So the Kurt from Madtown, you are up.
Welcome, Kurt.
What do you got for us?
13 years, huh?
Yeah,
you add in the days and months that you were gone?
No.
No,
So, you know, it was really nice of that, uh, nice lady to compliment you on how she's going to miss you.
I have the other hand, hope you trip on every other crack in the sidewalk as you walk in Milwaukee.
Why would
Well, I think I speak for many.
We're, we're, we're kind of really bummed that you're bringing this to a close, but I wish you the best and.
And, uh, by the way, I've been listening to you since you guys started with, uh, crew.
I want my money back.
It's free to the listeners.
appreciate it, man.
Always a pleasure to see you and hear you.
Hopefully we'll keep in touch all of our audience members.
You know, most of you, you know, I'm on the socials.
I don't know what, I really don't know like all that.
Like what do you do?
Right?
Is there an outlet?
I've had friends of volunteer like, Hey, you need to talk some politics.
I'm here for you because, you know, this is kind of some third.
This is where you get
Thank you everyone.
Come back more of your phone calls, eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two, eight, five, five, seven, five civic.
Maybe, maybe we'll get to some Josh call attorney general from the state of Wisconsin.
We'll see what happens.
That seems like work.
Salvia show eight by five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two, eight by five, seven, five, civic.
We all die someday.
Hopefully not today.
Well, the show is going to be dead at the end.
At six o'clock.
That's it.
This is the last live broadcast of the Dom Salvia show, just PS on the board as usual.
And it's Friday.
So James Santel, host of amicus, a law review, a broadcasting here on Saturdays.
in the morning, nine to 11 a.m.
Makes you check out Jim.
Thanks for joining us today.
Maybe we'll get some callers and the textures.
I mean, and that last song, that one goes a long distance dedication, goes out to our pal, Casper.
We sent a very nice text and thank
Kester is a ride or die.
Lots and lots of very nice textures.
Am I going to read them all on the radio?
That's what that's why we call.
You call colors always get priority here on the down salary show for the next 24 minutes, eight to five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two.
Uh, looks like we have Tom from Madison.
You've been holding the longest.
Thank you, buddy.
Welcome.
What do you got for us?
Hey, man, terribly
I mean, going back to, uh, go back to the protest, the uprising, uh, the nights at Hawks, uh, the, uh,
The rotunda, the solidarity thing, all of those things, man.
And coming across you had a polka-fest.
Milwaukee, absolutely incredible.
You guys created this and no one will ever forget.
That is just the best thing that could ever happen to media in Wisconsin.
You lasted longer than Air America.
And what is the question I'm going to miss?
I'm going to miss you.
I'm going to miss Jess.
What is CJ going to do?
sure.
Yeah,
I don't
Who's he going to troll?
Tom, man, thank you so much.
Always great to hear you.
And it is.
You know, we've moved there.
Tom, you know, for a very long time, you know, and you start throwing out some of those things, you know, of course, the uprising and the solidarity, sing along.
Of course, my, my very unconstitutional arrest for just looking like a hippie.
He can't, I mean, man, on a Trump.
I'd probably get arrested again, given what's going on, but it couldn't do that at least back then.
So I had to take them to court and
And it's not only about those memories, but it's also again about the things for the future, right?
Again, as Tom just said, you never forget those things.
There is a wonderful play called The Sum of Us and talks about how we are the products of all the things we've done in our lives at the end.
And again, this is not the end.
Let's be very clear about it, right, Jess?
But we are the sum of the things that have populated our lives and that's who we become, that's who we are.
We are the sum of us, right?
And again, this thing, this radio network that's been created, you know, and people have bought into and invested their time and energy and efforts into, and what is the point?
The point is to present, you know, another perspective.
I mean, right wing talk radio has just dominated the state for years.
And I think to a large part, we are paying that price right now.
right now.
And yeah, people like Charlie Seif can roll over to the other side, quote unquote, or you can have some never Trumpers out there.
But you know, in large part, they help facilitate the plant of the seed cord and watered it and let this thing grow.
And now next thing not now you can't get it out of your yard.
And it's an infestation.
Well, at least we have we have something else here, man, we got people that ran reaching out to the the folks that are protesting for this weekend, this hands off protests all over the country.
If those folks wanted to get a message out or had the commerce
and I initiated that.
I was the one being bombarded by friends and family about, hey, what's this protest, what's this protest?
I didn't know, so I reached out and they showed up.
Well, they showed up because we had a broadcast number for them to talk to, for people to talk to, to have this discussion, to tell us about why it's important, why there are protests and what to do and where to go.
Without that, there'd be one more topic that would not be out on the airwaves being discussed.
right now because I doubt they're talking about it on the railing talk radio.
It's
Yeah, right.
For real.
Again, Jim always brings it back to the dorky Supreme Court, you know, the marketplace of ideas, right?
Where you have always welcomed
everybody who wants to call in, and yes, sometimes we'll take them on and we'll explain to them why the legitimacy of their position is not clear, so to speak.
But that marketplace of ideas is what this show has provided.
It is a forum for information sharing.
And again, the value of that cannot be overstated.
You can learn what to do.
There's always a lesson.
Like I always told my kids, I am not a role model, eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two, eight, five, five, seven, five.
Civic John from Madison.
You are next.
Welcome, John.
What do you
got for us?
I call it, uh, I call it Dom's liberation
lot of
lot of tequila.
is what you
Yeah, man.
Speaking of tacos and tequila, I remember, I remember show, I used to, I used to go to that bar, that Casa de Lara.
Is that?
I remember sitting there with my girlfriend at the time.
And we're just sitting there, mining our own business.
And then all of a sudden I hear this loud, dirty laugh of three, four stools behind me.
And, uh, yeah, sure enough, you and Dom are, uh, sorry, Mikey, my
And, uh, yeah, I went over there and talked to you.
And, uh, yeah, you guys were just like on the radio and you know, pretty down to earth, you know, approachable and getting drunk.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So yeah, it's, uh, I've been trying to listen to you as much as I can ever since.
Uh, it's been, uh, yeah, I'm going to miss you.
I'm going to miss you.
I appreciate it, man.
Again, blast from the past, bringing up costs and all.
So now this was the Mexican restaurant up the street from.
Uh, I heart, uh, in Fishburg and we, we just kind of roll up there after the show.
And that's where we'd have a couple of drinks and then I drive back.
I mean, John, if you recall, man, I was, I was drive was commuting to Madison when we started doing the daily show that, you know, it started out as a hobby with me and cruddy.
I was like, Oh, let's do this.
And I'll be a Saturday, one hour big deal.
I was finding
I'm not a broadcaster.
Uh, and then next thing you know,
Oh, we, we, we get two hours on a Saturday and then we get the one hour daily.
Not that started changing things, you know, cause even back then we'd have like the greatest capabilities to do this kind of remote stuff like we do now.
I was, I was on the car, you know, just leased a Cadillac back that boy blew that thing up 50,000 miles in one year.
But, you know, that it just kind of evolved.
And at some point we're just like, well, now we're in, you know, now, now that's what you do.
And so it kind of evolved wasn't, wasn't a carefully laid plan.
Let's put it that way.
got?
Hey, Dom.
Long time listener.
I'm not a very secret caller, but you've been such a part of my life since way back in the days of the Mike.
Yesterday when you were...
told me your plans to move on.
I tell you, it was like a gut
And I don't know what I'm gonna do in the afternoon without you bud.
It's been such a pleasure having you fill my ears with different thoughts.
And I just wish you the best of whatever life can bring because you certainly deserve
Oh, Gordy.
Thank you so much.
Very, very kind words.
You've been a doll as well.
Copies, Copkeys greenhouse, man.
Go check Gordy out, man.
He does great stuff.
And it is, you know, and, and, you know, we, we did some sponsorship stuff back in the day.
And you got to go out and, you know, go to the greenhouses and it's just been like,
even folks like Gordy and other advertisers that come around, you develop relationships with
got?
No, I know you guys were bailing.
Yeah, because crew left, I never heard why he bailed, but I heard him on 820 out of Chicago, and he's got some kind of convertible car business, and I'm like, all right, they're all bailing.
And I'm hoping that the radio wasn't going to go corporate and Republican like what happened a long time ago when the 92 won.
Yeah, man.
No, and I was listening to you guys right when you came on and it got switched to 927.
And then listening since then, I'm like, why is everybody bailing?
Like what's coming in?
when we got pulled from the mic back in the day, like there's the music and then they flipped over like classic rock, I think, but yeah, we were doing pretty good over there, man.
You know, for a progressive station in Madison, we were pulling some of the
better numbers you can get like nationwide as a percentage of the audience.
But, you know, again, as things happen, people have other ideas and, you
the good news and bad news the bad news is I don't remember most of it The good news is there's a podcast or a video somewhere There's evidence where we did this or but you know your words can be used against you But you know and all the years I gotta tell you what one of my biggest disappointments after 13 years and I thought we were provocative and pushing buttons and you know all the things mm-hmm never ever Got one death threat not even one
Not even one.
Dominic, you're a slacker.
I know, I know, I know.
What we got
time?
8-5-5,
Shall I open this?
Is there quite power in there?
8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.
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So if you got something to say, hit us up right now, eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two, uh, callers, textures.
You've been very generous.
We appreciate it at all, but be patient.
Uh, uh, my co-host for the day, James Santel, host of amicus, a law review broadcasting right here on the civic media radio network on Saturdays, nine to 11.
8am and Jessps on the board gonna give them a minute or two each to say their piece.
Say
Um, back in September, when I got a call from Luke,
It was a weird day.
It was a weird day.
I got told that my show that I had been working on for a couple months, Busted Pencils, was coming off air.
And about in the same breath, Luke Mathers, who is our production manager here at Civic Media, he goes, and how would you feel about boarding for Dom Selvia?
And I go, um, huh?
He goes, oh yeah, Dom's gonna be taking over that time slot.
You just be, you would just be.
Yeah.
And it's all been worth it.
Every single minute.
Every article coming in at one in the morning.
Every time we roll in and you haven't told me about a guest.
Today.
I count you as a close friend, and I am so deeply grateful to have had this time with you and audience.
I'm so grateful for you.
I never meant to get into media.
This has been a wild, wild ride, and I am forever grateful.
So thank you.
Don, we're talking today about origin stories, apparently.
And you recall that many, many years ago, seven or eight or so, you and I were sitting around a banquet table and you leaned over and said, here's my card.
Come and visit us sometime.
And I did.
You were my entree into radio as well.
It has been nothing.
short of spectacular and again not only a friend of great dimension but also hugely professional.
I've learned a lot from you and your grace and your intelligence and your humanity speak to me every single day.
So I'm going to get a little bit literary on you here.
Final lines of Alpha Lord Tennyson's poem Ulysses are these.
Though much is taken, much abides.
And though we are not now that strength which in old days moved heaven and earth, that which we are, we are one equal temper of heroic hearts made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find, and never to yield.
You, my friend, you, my friend, are in heroic heart.
To me, to all your listeners, to everybody here at Civic Media and Beyond, and throughout your life.
as you go on to the next great adventures, the legacies that you pursue here, ever striving, ever seeking, ever finding, and never yielding.
Godspeed, my friend.
Thank you, James Santel.
Beautiful man.
Appreciate you.
Welcome.
Hey, thank you.
And I wrote a little poem for you.
This is part of how I feel about you.
Kick tack goes the clock.
Long may you rock.
Super smart celebrity.
Shine your light bright.
Way to be funny and free.
Thank you, Don.
that's great.
Whoa, I know I texted this to you, but I wanted to share it with the audience.
This is years ago.
There's a panel discussion in Milwaukee and McKenna and O'Donnell, and Earl, and Trude, all there, and you're sitting in the front row and we were getting on McKenna a little bit and you turned around and there's no way you could, this is one of the greatest ad libs I've ever seen, you could not have planned this, you turned around and backed us off of the chair with, just changed everything.
It's made it turn from a tense time to like a time of some real jocularity.
And I just want to know how much I appreciate you guys.
And I'm going to miss you and.
you know, wish you the best of
you, like I
It was funny.
People are getting mad and pick up the chair like back on like the lion's man.
Folks, it's been a ride.
It's been a lot of fun.
Thank you to everyone who's been a part.
Thank you, James Santel.
Check him out tomorrow, every Saturday here on the Civic Media Radio Network, 9 to 11 a.m.
Amicus, a law review.
Thank you, buddy, for everything.
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