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Judge Crawford joining me today.
Let's get into perhaps, of course, why you're here running for the Wisconsin Supreme Court.
Why is it that you're running judge?
What are you hoping to accomplish here?
What drives you to seek this office?
Yeah, you know Dom I've always just throughout my whole legal career look for ways that I can use my experience and my skills to protect Wisconsinites under our laws and Constitution and I've been doing that now for about six and a half years as a circuit court judge case by case family by family and this is an opportunity for me to take that really to a statewide basis to take part in decisions that will protect Wisconsinites under our laws.
You know, the, the role of the Wisconsin Supreme Court is, as I think is, is confusing to some folks.
And if we, if we allow ourselves to look at the many, many plethora of ads that are just all over the airwaves, I think people will get a, a misimpression.
What judge, do you consider the role of the Wisconsin Supreme Court here in the state of Wisconsin?
Yeah, so the Supreme Court is the final court in our state court system and that means that cases come to them after they have gone through the circuit court often after they have gone through the court of appeals and then you know lawyers for their clients can ask the Supreme Court to take up cases and they only take up cases if at least three justices on the court believe that the case raises an important issue that needs to be decided by the Supreme Court, so there's
You know, usually a lot has happened.
There might have been a trial or hearings where evidence was presented.
And by the time the case comes to the Wisconsin Supreme Court, it boils down usually to just one or two really central legal issues that the Supreme Court has to decide.
So there are no trials heard by the Wisconsin Supreme Court.
The hearings that happen in front of the Wisconsin Supreme Court are called oral arguments and their opportunities for the lawyers to present their arguments on the legal issues before the court and for the justices to ask them questions about their positions and really kind of dig into
the precedents that they're citing and the kind of finer points of interpreting the law.
She is a Dane County circuit short court judge.
She is seeking a spot on the Wisconsin Supreme Court.
We're happy to have you with us, Judge Crawford.
What do you want people to know about you?
Why should people vote for you?
What do you want people to know about your record that would encourage them to get out and support your efforts
Folks are listening to the Dom Salvia show judge Susan Crawford.
Perhaps we can reconnect that at some point.
We'll make the efforts again running for Wisconsin's supreme court.
She's a Dane County circuit court judge and we've been saying it the whole time folks go vote for her.
Don't vote for the BS.
Stay away from the BS.
We have the judges back.
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Welcome, Susan.
Sorry about that.
Not sure what happened there.
Welcome back to the
I have really broad legal experience, both working as a prosecutor, working in our court.
Courtrooms as a lawyer to fight for the rights of Wisconsinites, and now six and a half years or so on the bench as a judge.
So I have, and I've argued several cases in front of the Wisconsin Supreme Court.
So I know how things work up there.
And I want to bring all that experience as both a lawyer and a judge to the highest court to help out Wisconsin families and communities.
They take up cases every year that affect our fundamental rights and freedoms.
So those might be issues like the right to vote or our fair elections or women's reproductive health care rights.
So that has certainly been a
an issue that is occupying the Wisconsin Supreme Court's time this very term.
There are two cases pending before the Supreme Court that'll decide whether women have the right to make their own health care decisions during pregnancy.
And you can foresee in the future that the Supreme Court will take up cases.
This is just based on past experience, but they will take up cases that involve
community safety, public safety issues, things like the safety of our drinking water in Wisconsin.
That's been a really hot issue in courts across the state as communities are dealing with things like PFAS contamination and issues like that.
Any number of issues that involve health and safety of Wisconsinites and our ability to
make our own decisions about our private and personal lives and, um, to, you know, exercise the freedoms that we have under the constitution.
That is judge Susan Crawford, candidate for Wisconsin's supreme court, uh, judge, uh, the money in the race.
And, and on this program, we talk in lament a lot about the money in politics in general, and it just keeps getting more and more to our opinion out of hand.
Uh, Wisconsin democracy campaign, estimating that perhaps this.
election cycle will blow past a hundred million dollars and we have the richest man in the world who is not a wisconsin citizen uh jumping in and funding your opponent in this race what's what's your sense on where we stand uh not only in in your race susan but certainly as as a country with with the money in our politics in our elections
So he has spent upwards of $20 million to prop up Brad Jimmel's campaign.
He's out there funding paid canvassers who are going door-to-door handing out leaflets that say things like, support the Trump agenda, put Brad Jimmel on the Supreme Court.
And that is absolutely not what the Supreme Court is for.
And there are a lot of different reasons why Elon Musk might be doing this, not the least of which is that his company Tesla filed a lawsuit against the state of Wisconsin within days of Elon Musk starting to spend millions of dollars on the race.
So he's got some financial stakes here.
I think he is making this a test case to see whether he can be successful in buying a justice on the Wisconsin Supreme Court.
And if he manages to do it, I think we'll see him doing this around the country.
There was an article recently, a Canvasser, recorded in the suburbs of Milwaukee.
And my point to the question here, Susan, is they redacted.
They didn't put out the person's name for fear of retribution.
And we're certainly seemingly in a different environment than we were years ago.
And safety can be a concern.
Have you had any issues, personal safety threats of those kinds in the selection cycle?
Something that I can't answer personally I will say more broadly that Judicial security has been a growing concern across the country and certainly a concern in Wisconsin It's something that the state court system is paying a great deal of attention to right now And we have taken precautions as a campaign.
That's about all I can say about that But there are people who are threatening our judges.
We're seeing that happening nationally
when lawsuits have been filed against some of the actions taken by the so-called DOGE that Elon Musk is running.
And Elon Musk is calling for the impeachment of judges, not even because they're ruling against him, but because they're just saying, hey, we gotta put a halt to what's going on to give the court a chance to take some evidence and figure out the lawfulness of some of these actions.
Elon Musk is saying,
get those judges off the court.
That is just un-American, and it is unconstitutional for him to be saying things like that.
But, you know, an unfortunate side effect of it is that those judges are being targeted and threatened, and, you know, Wisconsinites and Americans should not stand for that.
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I mean, I may have been sneaking into some of those bars when she was in school there.
I mean, I'm just saying it's entirely possible.
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Welcome, Dale.
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Yeah, thanks for taking my call, Dom.
On the Supreme Court race, you know, it would be good to have a top echelon person from Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce on one of the shows to give their thoughts on Judge Schimmel.
There's 9,020 of us companies that are part of Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce.
And I would like to think, I would like to find out exactly what our group, Wisconsin
Manufacturers at Commerce, think about voting for Judge Schimmel.
I guess in voting for anyone, it's fair to hear both sides.
And so it would be good if we had somebody from Wisconsin Manufacturers Commerce speak about Judge Schimmel.
Yeah, it's, it's over, over the top.
That's for sure.
And, you know, just kind of decide here.
I guess that's that's what it comes down to and who and who do you believe has the character?
You know, I mean, how do you how do you you know?
How do you judge who you sit next to the bar man?
How do you judge who you work with?
How do you judge who you hang out with?
You know, I'm saying what are what are those things that are important to you?
And you try to find you know the candidate that the best matches that and that's the most basic part of it So, you know what what drives you, you know politically what are your concerns about?
locally from a from a legal perspective hell if you're an if you're a manufacturer
What are your concerns on that regard?
What do you think about guys like Elon Musk coming in and spreading that kind of money around?
Dale, I mean, you know, how do you make those determinations and what's important to you, sir?
Well, it's it's hard for me to believe that that all 9,020 of us companies that are part of the Manufacturers of Commerce all agree,
know where the other
And so that certainly isn't the case in any group of 9,020 people or entities.
What is what where has WMC come down on this?
We can do a Google search and find out see if they've actually made any public statements on that on that yadda let me ask you are you in manufacturing and has this current and Call it business climate and this under this administration have any impact on you yet Or do you think maybe it will in the future with regards to tariffs and and whatnot?
I'm scared
you scared of what what's coming
coming down the line here and what has already transpired.
Thanks for the call.
I appreciate you chiming in and giving us your opinion.
I think there is a reason to be concerned.
We did just see yesterday, and perhaps we'll get to it today as well, that the administration down Trump is imposing 25% tariffs on automakers.
That they're bringing their cars in Ford is down almost 4% today GM is down over 7% today Tesla up just a little bit There's real there's real impact on that again There's the initial shock of the whole thing and then there's you know what eventually happens and what you know It's one thing to say what you're gonna do is something to actually do it
But Dale, yeah, man, we need people of good character, people of good business sense, people that are more concerned about us as citizens versus their own eagle or their pocketbook, man.
That's what I'm looking for.
And you can see with people how they've conducted their lives.
If you look at BS and Crawford, what's their history been?
Who did they support?
What causes did they take up?
That tells you a lot about them, man.
So if I were you...
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Interesting call from our guide Dale up in Wausau.
Appreciate the thoughtfulness.
If you don't know, don't know, you can be difficult and it takes a lot of time to evaluate, right?
How do you do it?
You know, my mind's changed over time, man.
So really, where are you at today and what's important to you today?
And then hopefully we can, you know, kind of step outside of ourselves and say, okay, what's important to my neighbors, my friends, my family, to our community, to our state, right?
To our country, to the world, you know, depends on how you want to look at it.
But specifically, as Dale was inquiring about Wisconsin manufacturers and commerce, apparently, Dale, a member thereof, 9,000 members, he was saying, jumped on the Google machine, found this.
Polling, released by Wisconsin manufacturers and commerce, WMC, from earlier this month.
Polling conducted March 9th and 10th, shows, quote, a 4747 split.
between former attorney general BS and our favorite judge, Susan Crawford.
5% of voters are yet undecided in the race.
So this was earlier this month, a couple of weeks ago.
Scott Manley, I know that cat.
Like many Wisconsin statewide elections, this race is very close and will come down to the wire.
This is a winnable race for either candidate right now and will simply boil down to whichever side does a better job of getting out their voters.
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you
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For what?
one of
Hey, sir, you guys are doing great today.
you.
Yeah much like Dale
I'm having some difficulty making sense of this race.
And when we hear about Elon Musk putting money into the campaign for Schimel, what I haven't heard is the money from George Soros that's gone towards Crawford's campaign.
And my concern when I hear that is that all of the other jurisdictions around the country that have had elections of attorney generals or district attorneys in big cities like San Francisco or Los Angeles or
Whenever Soros has backed the candidate, a couple of years down the line, the electors are all having buyers remorse because of the politics, the policies that are put in place by these Soros candidates.
And I think almost universally they're getting kicked out because of the.
I would
Number one, my understanding is Soros is nowhere near the amount of money that
Musk has put in, right?
Two million versus 20 million.
So that, that's, that's, it's not even in the same.
It's still a lot of money, man.
You know, and I mean, the money in the politics of money in, in, in electing judges, it should not be like this.
It should not be a hundred million dollars.
That is outrageous.
Now that being said, um, listen, I mean, you know, Crawford worked for, uh, uh,
pro-choice organizations, right?
I mean, that's one of the things that she did in her career.
And we know, you know, Brad Schimmel worked for WMC, you know what I mean?
So I think that the, the, the lines are pretty much drawn here, Len.
And, and so I think we both agree money and pop.
Do you agree, Len, that the money in the politics that we're having right now is, is, is over the top and should not, should be addressed.
Do you agree with that statement?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I'm with
So that's beside the point.
Now it comes down to the background of these judges.
Now, of course, as you know, I'm liberal these days.
So I guess that means I'm voting for that liberal justice.
But I mean, really, I'm down.
And I've been able to be a little
I'm going to say up close and personal with Brett Schimmel, but I've been doing this radio for like 13, 14 years, something like that here in the state of Wisconsin.
And I've gotten to see that cat over and over again and color me unimpressed, man.
Uh, just, and I'm not, I'm not being personal about it.
I'm just saying, no, that's not me.
And if you trust by judgment, then you can take that for what it is.
But if you're down for someone that wants to do the bidding of Elon Musk and WMC, well, then that, then that's your guy.
If you're down for someone who has a history of fighting for women's reproductive rights, which I'm down with, that doesn't mean she's gonna vote this way or that way on things, but that's her background.
That's where she came from.
And I'm more down with that, man.
I mean, Brad Schummel thinks it's totally fine.
It's 1879 law, abortion law, no exceptions for rape or incest.
What's wrong with that law, he said?
I mean, man, I mean, I'm not, I'm not a single shoe guy, but that's a deal breaker.
I mean, the guy has literally no concept of that.
And just the way he cares himself, it is demeanor in the ways he says things.
And when I've heard them over the years, uh, and, and the rape kit thing was, was an issue.
And then when people come out and they, the office, get the lie, they spin.
And it wasn't what it was, man.
I mean, those, those are just constant tells.
constant tells.
And Hagedorn is a Republican, and he worked for Scott Walker during the Act 10 thing.
He's been fairly objective.
A couple of those rulings have gone against Republicans, and they're freaking out about it.
Hell, you even have Brett Schimel saying we can't have another Hagedorn on the bench.
I mean, Hagedorn now is what, a Rhino?
I mean, we're just getting pulled so hard, Len.
It's just, it's, it's, it's overstepping its bounds and it's like they're trying to outright each other.
Uh, and, and I don't think, uh, I mean, I think the background from, from what I know of, of Judge Crawford, I'm totally down, especially when I have to compare it to the guy I know real well in BS.
Len, your thoughts.
Uh, if you had to, uh, give arguments for why Crawford or why, uh, a Schimel would be
Uh, tough on crime, which is a big thing right now.
Um, yeah, but they're not doing that man.
Hang on.
Hang on.
They're not
That's why these ads are so fricking stupid, Len.
None.
And that's why when you had the conversation with Crawford in the first segment, that's why I brought it up.
I mean, these folks aren't, this is not what they're doing, man.
They're not at this point at this level.
That's not their thing.
And if I'm to believe any of the ads, Len, everybody sucks and we're all going to get raped and murdered.
And they're, and the, the, the, the perpetrators of those crimes will be let go.
if I'm to believe these ads.
So I just discount that stuff, man.
And certainly there are going to be cases and situations in everybody's career, I would imagine, that could have gone a different way or should have been something handled.
I think Crawford had a staffer that didn't file some paperwork on time.
Yeah, okay, that falls under her preview under that umbrella.
Okay, fine.
But this isn't what's happening.
Right now at this level on this court, that's not what they're dealing with.
So now it comes down to, you know, what is your, how do you interpret the Constitution?
What do you value as the rights and supporting of your constituents?
How do you base that?
Does it ebb and flow based on the win, based on the money, based on the influence ban?
I mean, I don't want that, man.
I don't want that.
Final thoughts, Len.
I'm just glad that Crawford is willing to
consider changing the maps and we might get a little bit better representation with a couple more Democrat representatives if she's elected.
And I'm with you 100%.
I just hope that if she gets elected that we don't have the biology remorse that the other candidates across the country that were supported by George Soros have elicited.
Well,
and again, man, I'm not I hear I know the crime up and down in Santa Fran I hear what you're saying about sorry You could go down the list and they could who the you lines have supported, you know on on the right At the end of the day, it's kind of a pointless not pointless But we both agree the money is is a big problem that that's a big problem We shouldn't be in the situation and as I mentioned to Judge Crawford and what bothers me man is this is this vitriol this this angst you know judges are getting threatened right now
You know this this canvasser that's getting paid for by must to support BS You know What they the newspaper when they did their story didn't want to release her name out of fair retribution for her and I am I applaud the General Sentinel for not doing that because this is real.
It's unfortunate
But I can't believe that this is the situation we're in.
That should never happen anyway.
And no Musk truck should not be being fire-bombed.
That's not an answer.
That's not okay.
So, I mean, I'm hoping consistent in that.
And people's personal safety should not be threatened because they uphold the law or they view and rule on a case a certain way.
I mean, my God, if I acted that way, but every time things didn't go my way, I'd be like Donald Trump.
Join us eight five five seven five two four eight four two eight five five seven five civic Genie from old Claire.
You are up.
Happy day, Genie.
Welcome.
What do you got for us?
I was gonna have you refresh my senior memory regarding, you know, the Wisconsin manufacturers and commerce.
I remember all the people coming from my side of the state to speak to, you know, um, their representatives, you know, in a hearing and
they had to wait for hours and hours while wisconsin manufacturers and commerce and american prosperity were sitting in the top chairs and they totally ignored all the people that you know spent the day trying to talk to the representatives and you know and that was the time when you know people were sitting in the capital i remember seeing it they didn't cover it on my side the state watching it and other means and in crying when they were
a hand cupping people in their seventies behind their back seventies eighties
genie octogenarians putting old older women you know their their hands behind their back with zip ties like like that's necessary uh yeah that's that's that's that's not great stuff and genie thank you for the call we certainly appreciate you listening up in oh
Claire, you know, the money, the money, they always get it, man.
You know, I mean, they're, they're, they're always going to be, unfortunately, this is how it is, at least as it stands now.
And again, as a, as a citizenry, as we the people, we can change that.
We could absolutely change it.
We could change it.
So those money influence cannot spend that kind of money.
It wasn't always like that.
We could make it not like that again.
If, if we came together and agreed that that's how we want it to be, you know, how, how about genie that our voices are equal?
to the, you know, whatever, whatever lobbyist.
And now when we talk about, our proud Tom talks about lobbying.
I mean, lobbying is, you know,
getting redressed from your government.
You gotta be able to ask for something.
You know what I mean?
I know lobbying in a sense is a bad word, but at the end of the day, if I couldn't go and try to get in front of my congressman or my senator and plead my case, if I can't lobby, well, then I really can't go to your government to get your grievances addressed.
You know what I'm saying?
We have to be able to lobby.
So again, but there can be restrictions in the professional paid lobbyist thing.
There are, we can address those.
We can do that if we choose.
But we have to, I think you gotta, what do you gotta do?
You gotta identify the problem, right?
You gotta recognize this real.
Oh, I'm an alcoholic.
Hi, Dom.
Hi, Dom.
You know, first you gotta recognize it.
And, and I think, you know, some of those folks, some folks out there, you know, right-leaning, independent, whatever.
Oh, the money in politics makes, it makes everything worse.
It just does.
And even, I'm gonna keep on saying it.
If you believe that money is speech, well, speech can be restricted.
You cannot yell fire in a crowded theater.
Don't give a damn what you think your freedom of speech is.
And if we're gonna use our freedom of speech to burn down this country in our election system, I think we have a justified position that we can convince righties, lefties, middles, those that don't engage just because, you know, no one wants to see the commercials.
Or, you know, maybe public financing, maybe a window of 30, 60 days, something along those lines.
We can do it.
We're the American people.
We can do whatever we want if we...
Put our mind to it.
Come back with us.
Put your mind to it.
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We talked about Elon Musk, a couple of things.
That's always commuting today.
I was caught in some traffic at 43 south on just north of Milwaukee.
And so I was just kind of going out of the traffic and looking at my phone and I saw an article from the journal Sentinel anti Elon Musk plane flies over Milwaukee days before high stakes, Wisconsin Supreme court election.
I was like, huh, that's interesting.
And I look up and there it is.
That's amazing.
That's a good reporting.
It's a little weird.
But you'll look at that.
Right.
Journal Sun also reporting that Musk threw another million into next week's Supreme Court race But unlike his most recent spending on attack ads and canvassers He said the sum went to just one voter Musk took to X to announce Wednesday that Scott a
From Green Bay had won the sum for signing Musk's petition in opposition to activist judges
I'm not when I when I saw this initially, I was like, well, I don't remember him saying he has someone who's going to win a million dollars.
Correct, but he's got some dealerships.
He wants open.
So he, you know, he's busy.
He's busy.
Uh, yeah.
So there you go.
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Kurt from Madison.
You are next.
Welcome, Kurt.
What do you
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Oh, it's working on my breathing exercise
well.
Very good.
Very good.
I want to use your conversation with Len to try to cite an example.
of critical thinking.
So if people are on the fence and they look at the money, ignore the money, ignore the commercials, and just go off the facts that you can find at your own fingertips on the computer.
He lied in the debate about the rape kits.
If that alone isn't enough to get you upset, just think of it was your wife, your daughter,
A relative, I don't care who.
This is a guy who does not care about the better interests of the people of this state.
So, for Plexities out there, you can ask it just about any question you want and see what comes back.
This should not be a hard decision for people.
It simply should not.
And I just stress the critical thinking skill level of this.
If you're confused, call the Dom Show.
Get your answers or...
Or you can just get on the computer and ask perplexity your question.
Perplexity.
I haven't used perplexity.
You'll have to check it out, Kurt.
Thanks for the comment.
Thank you so much.
Do appreciate it as always.
Yeah, people critical thinking.
That's a good thing.
You could use that.
Yeah.
And if you don't know, you can look things up.
Do your own research, as they say, but also be careful of your sources.
See, there's a lot to it.
Not only did.
did BS lie during the debate about the, the, as Kurt says about the rape kids, he lied at the time when he was attorney general about it.
So he's, he's not gotten better.
He's not corrected his, his misdeeds, his lies, his misinformation.
He continues to do it.
And then I will throw on top of that, uh, Len and perhaps Dale from Warsaw, if you're on the fence, um, he continues to bring up.
Milwaukee voting accounting Milwaukee County City of Milwaukee counting the votes the late-night ballot drops I don't know if there's fraud or not man.
That's just how they do it They wanted to change it, but the Republicans wouldn't let them here in the state of Wisconsin So what happens they count those ballots then Brad Shim will continues to deceive don't vote for him vote for Susan Crawford come back eight five five seven five two four eight four two
