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Harvey, Harvey, love it when you come around, man.
A lot of folks are already chiming in and want to hear your opinion.
Lots of things to get to today, but I think we got to start really with the, the quote unquote.
potential of a constitutional crisis here, Harvey.
Professor Emeritus of Democracy, how important are the courts and their orders in a democracy and the fact that they have to be followed, I think, in order for the rule of law to rule?
How important are the courts, Harvey?
I mean, we can argue about whether or not
the framers of the Constitution got it right or not.
But it has worked in many, for many generations, that idea of checks and balances.
And when I say checks and balances, good politics can prevail, okay?
Good laws can prevail.
But it is the case that we currently have, I mean, this is being nice about it.
You currently have a rogue administration.
that when it came into office decided it was going to pursue change by way of executive orders.
Fundamentally, just executive orders.
First, and second of all, they brought in a corporate billionaire.
Well, soon to be trillionaire, I assume.
The richest man in the world.
Right.
To make decisions about government.
Now, that's utterly ridiculous, okay?
But here's the thing, they don't seem to care less about the courts.
Yeah, for a while they were sort of edging a bit and they would even reverse something and he would shift gears.
But right now, with the deportation question, it really does seem to me that they're prepared to go and they're prepared to ignore the courts, okay?
And if you get an executive who's going to...
I'm going to ignore the courts.
That's clearly a constitutional crisis.
I mean, I can't imagine what else would be a constitutional crisis.
And what we've seen as well is that Congress has yet to assert its, if you like, its power and authority to address this constitutional crisis.
So yeah, I mean, we're there.
I mean, I know that lawyers might argue, well, we're not quite there.
We're there.
especially when you consider the degree to which people's lives are being affected.
I mean, we'll get to that later, I assume.
It really is, yes, a constitutional crisis.
I mean, you know, here's something else.
I was thinking about this today.
On the one hand, Donald Trump is essentially, I mean, he's smart on certain kinds of things, but he's not terribly well educated.
And he really doesn't understand.
If you said checks and ballots, I doubt if he would understand that.
But here's the thing, the folks that they brought in as part of their transition team and as their advisors are really too smart for us right now.
That is, they're handing over to Trump a whole series of ideas and initiatives to follow up on his promises of these last couple of years, and they're doing it and pointing to things in American history and law
which seemed to be the kinds of things that would validate Trump's actions.
Now, the first time he was president, that's not the case.
Okay, I didn't have that in spite of the, you know, the attorney general being supposedly so smart and so well educated.
The thing is, at least he had some reservations about going all in with Trump.
I mean, it was scary at the time, but compared to what we see now, you know, it almost seems like moderate.
But the thing is that they are really, really equipping him, or at least cabinet officers, with a certain kind of constitutional logic or legislative logic.
The best example I can give you is they're referring to one of the four alien and sedition acts of 1798 to validate the deportation.
And it's the alien act.
Now, let me say this.
The alien act has been used in American history.
I mean, John Adams administration.
I mean, one of the reasons possibly didn't get reelected was because of the alien and sedition acts and how they alienated certain leading figures and also working class people of that day.
Okay.
Who, by the way, were not as anti French as the administration at that time.
I won't go into the whole history there.
Okay.
It's also the case that FDR made use of deportations is undeniable.
Okay.
But it's.
But really, when you're in a state of war, you know, state of war, one can more readily understand it.
And in fact, what are we in a state of war?
I don't think we are, though we seem to have been in war ever since the 1960s.
Congress
So, you know, and also, you know, one of the other things is you would imagine that after 250 years as of next year, we would have learned something about those kinds of things in the past and the degree to which if we want to be a democracy, and if we want to be a democracy guided by the rule of law, there are things that just don't do.
Okay, you know, I can also tell you that
I've read, you know, some of these stories about, you know, the Syrian or Palestinian fellow at Columbia, who's been, who's in, I guess, is in custody or in jail or in prison, whatever it is.
In Louisiana, yes,
And of course, it may, it sounds like if you're going to deport Venezuelan gangs, you know, the majority of them are going to be like, oh yeah, just go ahead and do it, right?
But you just don't go ahead and do it in a democracy.
that's committed to the rule of law.
You use the courts as the means by which you prove your case, and then you can proceed if you're found to be correct.
I read the one story, I don't know if you reported on that last hour.
So they were in route to El Salvador, somewhere like that.
Yeah, or far beyond the prisons.
And they were told by the court or the judge, get him back, right?
That is Harvey K. Professor Emeritus of Democracy from the University of Wisconsin, Green Bay.
We're talking about the fact that this administration has apparently defied court order.
A little bit here from the reporting from Slate, the Trump administration pushed forward into a new phase of the rolling national constitution crisis.
Over the weekend, reportedly defined two different federal court orders imposing limits on its deportation of immigrants without due process.
One was this kidney transplant doctor, despite a judge's
a Friday order halting her removal, they still sent her off.
And a second, as we're talking about these 250 Venezuelan migrants that Donald Trump is the son of all their gang members.
And again, to your point Harvey, okay, if they are gang members, we're criminals, we don't have criminals, but you don't know that until you go through due process, right?
You don't get to dub the criminal.
I mean, this is an animal house with your Delta name, man.
You have to be found to be, in my opinion.
Now, you know, enacting this, this, this, this law, this
very rarely used and when used historically has been bad.
Look at the Japanese internment.
That's the law we're talking about, right?
in most cases.
So it wasn't that.
They actually, it was an executive order.
And that was one of the worst civil liberties, you know, attacks on civil rights and civil liberties in American history.
I mean, FDR was, I think I've said this before, FDR was a great president, but he made some tragic and terrible mistakes.
like, you know, Harvey, even if you are, if you have a green card or if you're married to a U S citizens was always thought like, if you're, if you're married to a U S citizen, you kind of get the past.
That's always the kind of way I interpreted the whole immigration thing.
Apparently that's not the case, Harvey.
He had
And we talked in the last segment about this couple from Wisconsin, made the national news over the weekend.
Wisconsin Dell's guy, working locally at the local factory, meets a girl of his dreams.
She's from Peru.
They get married.
They go on their honeymoon.
Well, she comes back.
She's not in the system.
She's applied for everything.
She overstayed her visa.
And boom, they took her.
I know she's out and this guy's won and he voted, he voted for Donald Trump.
So I think
I mean, there are for real consequences and there could be consequences for, for these actions.
However, you only got a couple of minutes left in this, but one of our, our texture is brought up.
And I think it's a good point.
Andrew, Andrew Jackson, uh, told the Supreme Court basically to let them enforce it.
So what, what happens?
What do you think?
How does this play out if Donald Trump and the court filing is right now to my understanding, I didn't read them, but from the reporting that I've heard, uh, aren't, aren't specifically saying, we're not listening to you.
What they're saying is, well, you know, uh, we were in international waters.
It was.
It was a verbal report and the written order didn't come till later and, you know, making all sorts of excuses.
Now, apparently Friday, they're going to have another hearing
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We've got a couple of callers and some textures.
Be patient.
We will get to you as mentioned Harvey this administration apparently not following court orders at least in two specific cases.
We talked about this doctor that was deported of course these
250 Venezuelan migrants who they claimed are terrorist gangsters, without of course any due process.
A little bit from the slate article, the Justice Department claimed that it could not comply with the order barring the doctors removal because it arrived too late.
But the White House defended its defiance of the order prohibiting deportations of Venezuelans, assisting that the judge had no jurisdiction over the migrants, and that Trump holds absolute, unreviewable constitutional authority to expel non-citizens.
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We have some sound of an exchange.
with what Katelyn Collins from CNN and Caroline Levitt regarding the verbal versus written order.
Let's play that.
And how everyone gets your opinion on the other side.
You keep talking about the judge's written order, which hit the docket Saturday night about 726 p.m.
But he issued a verbal order before that at about 645 and 648 p.m.
based on the court hearing.
Does the White House feel the need to comply with a verbal order from this judge?
Again, as I said, all of the plaint's subject to the written order of this judge departed U.S.
soil, U.S.
territory before
the judge's written order.
But what about the verbal order, which of course carries the same legal weight as a written order and said for the planes to turn around if they
were needed?
Well, there's actually questions about whether a verbal order carries the same weight as a legal order, as a written order, and our lawyers are determined to ask and answer those questions in
you know they've got an answer for everything and most often it's not an answer right um and and that's what that's what's happening now when people challenge anything that they do and they keep hoping that time is on their side you know the plane's already gone and the guys are down there and you know what are we gonna do kind of it you know
And then they'll say, you're making us spend all this money to go back and get them something.
I mean, you'll come up with all that kind of stuff.
They'll, they'll, they'll manage it in a way so that most Americans will say, oh, well, you know, that's, it's tragic.
I don't know what to say.
Thanks.
Uh, yeah, just want to say, you know, with everything going on.
People are kind of gained what they voted for and it's sad but true The one thing that really upsets me is that I I really don't care who you voted for because I think we're at that point where If you vote for Trump for Harris sir or independent Democrat Republican, whatever It's gonna take everyone to stand up and fight this administration because the people that are elected an officer aren't gonna back down against Trump because
they're too afraid to do anything because they think their jobs are online.
You know, and this weekend was, I believe, Ruth Bader Ginsburg's birthday or what would have been, and she would always quote the Constitution.
And it started with what three words?
We the people.
And I think it's at that point where, no matter who you voted for, if you see this injustice going on, please get a backbone, roll a pair of, you know what I mean, stand up against this because this is going to affect you, me,
family, friends, coworkers in some way, shape, or form.
And unless we come together and do something about this, this is only going to get so much worse than it is right now.
Sorry, man.
I got to cut you short here.
Got some other callers holding it is it is certainly disturbing and certainly folks need to stand up and shout out from the rooftops.
Man, that's what I'm talking about.
But you also be careful.
As mentioned, you know, if you're if you're on, if you're not a citizen man, you know, I don't know if now's the time because these guys are coming after your left to right.
And whether or not it's constitutional, whether or not it's legal, they don't seem to give a damn.
You know, you know, they'll do it and then you got to try to, you know, stop them after the fact.
And that's, that's not how it should be in my opinion, eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two.
However, anything to add to that?
And I'm solidly with Brian that people are going to have to figure out how to come together and mass to oppose these things.
Now that's tough to do.
I mean, people have.
You know, it's just plain tough to do to all of a sudden organize this.
And at some point, I do want to talk about today.
Let's make sure to talk about Bernie's and what he's been doing, because I think he has the answer to.
at least part of the problem as to how to confront the Trump administration.
Let's take one more caller in this segment.
We'll come back and talk about Bernie Sanders.
We'll talk about AOC.
We'll talk about what's going on in the Democratic Party.
You'll have to hear your thoughts on that as well, Harvey.
Cam from Appleton, you will be next.
Welcome, Cam.
What are your thoughts?
Hey, Dom.
Hey, Harvey.
I was over the weekend, I saw the deceased veteran, Charles C. Rodgers.
He's an African-American gentleman on the Department of Defense's website.
It goes into how he ended up getting a Medal of Honor in his life, and they removed his page.
But if you go through the normal means of going through the Department of Defense's website to get to the page, and this gets buried in a lot of the articles, it's not the headliner for a lot of them.
But if you dig into to find his page, it will pop up saying, 404, page not found.
But if you compare it to a web archive link showing like what it originally had looked like compared to what it is now, the link is appended to say from Medal of Honor Monday Army Major General or Gen Charles Calvin Rogers to DEI Medal of Honor Monday Army Major General Gen Charles Calvin Rogers.
They added DEI medal to it.
What?
Yeah.
All right.
We'll have to check that out.
And they're going, thanks for the call, Cam.
Thanks for getting us even more mad.
I mean, they're going after everything all the time.
They're pushing all the buttons.
I saw it described like, like velocities of the velociraptors from the movie, you know, testing the fence lines, trying to find a point of weakness.
Well, you know, if we stand united, it won't be us.
Come back with us.
Let's talk about where perhaps those points of weaknesses are.
Come on, Senator Bernie Sanders, AOC, Chuck Schumer, Democratic Party and you and Harvey.
K. Professor Meritus from the University of Wisconsin at Green Bay, come back with us.
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Harvey, you are a big fan of FDR and we are big fans of Bernie Sanders.
Bernie Sanders out on the oligarchy tour.
And he did a couple of stints here in the state of Wisconsin sold out.
packed crowds, people waiting.
Obviously, Bernie Sanders continues to resonate with the people, man.
What do you think the overall goal is here?
What was he trying to accomplish, man?
They want to have another election for a couple of years.
Why is Bernie out there and is he having an impact in your opinion, sir?
People are turning out.
Well, we we need to clone Bernie as fast as we can.
OK, we need to get lots of Bernie, lots of Bernie Sanders literally out there doing this.
I mean, everyone wonders, what are the Democrats doing?
And the fact is that they should be embracing Bernie Sanders on this.
And Bernie Sanders, wherever he goes, should make it a point.
And if they if they refuse him, let it be no, they refuse.
He should be bringing.
the leading democratic politicians into the show with him.
I know he's got AOC coming with him soon.
It's imperative that people start to see the Democratic Party as basically the source of Bernie Sanders, both angst and potential.
I mean, Bernie is not, he's obviously outraged with the Democratic Party.
He's not in the party.
He has caucused with the party.
Okay.
But it's also the case that we don't hear much about what the party might be doing to build on the rage.
I mean, people are angry about what's happening.
And one of the things that is just so beautiful, there was this article that I sent you guys today from the New Republic by Jason Lincoln's in which he actually says, Bernie seems to have this answer as to how to respond to the Trump folks.
It won't overnight change anything, but it will build a momentum.
You build
off of the rage that Americans are starting to feel.
As he said, look, people are angry.
So what do you do?
What Bernie's doing?
You put a human face on the harms of Trumpism.
OK, so for example, look, think about what's going on.
We have the NIH has been under siege.
Hell, cancer research is in jeopardy.
The affordable housing that's being denied, the
foodborne illnesses that prevail, not to mention the measles cases that are erupting.
Put a human face on all of this.
We know that each one of us, by our own experience, when we read about these things, it occurs to us, this is ridiculous.
This is absurd.
This is tragic.
What can we do?
Well, Bernie puts the human face on it.
We need to find the folks who are being affected by this, and we've got to push them forward into the media.
to speak of their, you know, of what's happening to them and to their families.
And, you know, I think I said to you that, well, I have said that Thomas Paine knew how to call out the enemy.
He knew how to do it.
Bernie, I think these were his words in the article, said, there's no quicker path to good, cheap conflict, because you want to get the Trump administration to do battle with you.
He said,
President Deals, capital D, President Deals and his ketamine adult freak sidekick are screwing you over.
That's got to be the best line I've heard since the election.
My God, even now, even the sound of it just resonates so powerfully.
It's like the kind of thing I wish I had thought of that.
And man, that's it.
So you've got to find these folks, not just us who are all angry, you got to find folks who are literally ready to punch.
this administration in the nose, get them into the media, let Americans hear that they're not alone in their rage, in their outrage, their frustration, and their worry, and get this to become, if you like, the grounds of a movement.
The grounds of a movement.
Look, deaths have already occurred.
Deaths will ensue, okay?
I'm not looking forward to that, but if they are going to take place, we have to have them attended to.
not only by, you know, medical authorities, but also by the media.
And Bernie, I think, is a vehicle for that.
And I know AOC is going to be coming on the road with him.
In every state, Democrats should go on the road with him.
Labor leaders should go on the road with him.
I mean, I can't stress that enough.
And I do want to say one other thing.
So when I was down in Sarasota a couple of weeks ago, and you will notice, for your sake, I have my siesta key.
Okay, I was there because of a veterans group that I've been working with for almost 20 years Okay, and what what is the case is I've talked to them and they're revved up They want to make they don't want to put up with this any longer.
They were first organized against the second Bush administration of the second is George W Bush not George HW
You know, in some ways, marginal in veterans affairs because you're a progressive group.
But this is the moment where other veterans groups from the American Legion to veterans of foreign wars may well join you because the veterans administration is also under
And, you know, we look at this continuing resolution that went through last week.
And everyone in all the Dems in the House save one voted against it.
Then it gets over to the Senate and, you know, Chuck Schumer, the leadership over there, they all vote for it.
They all vote for it for their reasoning.
And I don't.
I don't agree with that.
And I don't AOC, hell, even Pelosi, I think they're going through the roof.
People are
I mean, and I understand that because they're essentially shutting the government down now anyway.
And I don't think, you know, if you look at the polling that the Democrats would have been blamed.
Now, certainly there's got to be a longer term solution than a 30 day, you know, delayable vote on it.
Then maybe they could have gotten something through, but.
Where where is the fight in the Senate man?
I mean if you you lose all the leverage you have no levers now this thing goes out to what?
September if you if you're gonna take some heat for pushing back and fighting now You're never gonna be any further away from the midterms than you are today.
You're a little bit closer tomorrow You're a little bit closer to day after that.
I don't I don't get it
And I think there is there is there is a disconnect to some degree in the Democratic Party.
I mean, you know, Schumer is not out there with Bernie, but he is going to be.
What does that tell you?
Harvey,
And what do I mean by that?
Well, go back go back to the very beginning of the Biden administration when Bernie was doing his very best to try to get the minimum wage raised to $15 an hour.
And yet, eight Democratic senators said no.
Eight Democratic senators.
I mean, I wouldn't have been shocked if it was Manchin and Sinema who tried that stunt.
But it was eight of them.
And Biden didn't do anything to pull them into line.
I mean, if it was just Manchin and Sinema, he could have said, OK, Sinema, I got a job for you.
You're going to be the next ambassador to friends.
You like wine, I bet.
Go
over,
Manchin, you know, Manchin knew he might have trouble because his wife
was right on the on the on the edge there of losing whatever it was that she she was doing.
Now the fact is that they just aren't willing to do that.
Look, we've seen the first the first time Jeffries has actually spoken by not speaking.
Yeah.
When they asked him questions about Schumer and what happened.
No comment.
Next question.
I mean, maybe he can be pushed another, you know, one more step, but that wouldn't unseat Schumer.
Here's the thing.
Here's the other thing.
Bernie should have joined the Democratic Party after the 2016 election.
If he was in the Democratic Party, then maybe now he could have organized an overthrow of Schumer.
I can't explain Schumer's actions.
He rationalizes it because, well, it'll shut down the government.
We don't want to be responsible for that.
But as you said, they're doing it bit by bit anyhow.
And those senators, and some of our textures points out, it wasn't, you know, that all the Dems didn't vote for it, but only a handful shamefully did.
As Uncle Tony mentioned, well, yeah, Uncle Tony, but it was the entire leadership.
It was Schumer.
It was the whip.
It was, it was the leadership and a few others.
They got, they got it through.
And what did they get for it?
You know, the Republicans knew they were going to have to get some Democratic votes.
And their effort to reach out across the aisle for four Democratic votes was to stick it to them.
And the Democratic leadership of the Senate said, thank you.
Yes, we want nothing for this.
And we'll go along with it and basically justify your step-by-step dismantling of the institutions of our government.
They went along with it.
I mean, I don't...
Donald Trump is a is a is a threat to democracy and and Elon Musk and the way they're going about this process is a threat to democracy well and and the Republicans are saying hey they're gonna be some you know short-term pain for long-term gain I mean they're giving you all the ingredients you need to lay it in their lap they didn't even reach across the aisle they didn't offer a damn thing and Schumer just took it Harvey I
You know, to go across the aisle to try to figure out a deal.
Something.
Something.
The deal could have been, hey, how about if you start holding Trump accountable?
How about if you demand that Trump attend to the Supreme Court, not to the Supreme Court, to the judges who are saying to him, you can't do that.
Stop.
I mean, what's going on?
And I thought to myself, well, what could be going on?
Are the hedge fund hedge fund folks in New York who
And by the way, he's the hero of the hedge fund folks.
He's always defended them.
Justice Biden was the hero of the credit card companies.
Each one of these leading Democrats over years became the champions of some corporate cohort.
Well, did the hedge fund folks call him and say, hey, you don't want to shut down the government.
You're going to be jeopardizing our economic wherewithal.
Who knows?
OK.
Right.
But the fact is that I'm I've been fed up with the Democratic Party for years.
I vote Democratic, people tell me, well, why do you waste your vote?
I said, because there's no other way to vote.
There's all sorts of... Exactly.
I mean, the way the people is getting is being challenged by, you know, they, the billionaires, man.
And for these Democrats not to step up, not to recognize that, not to demand something for their vote, I just don't know what the point is.
I mean, what's the end game for Chuck Schumer?
Do you think AOC should primary them?
They're both in New York.
Uh, you know, she's in she's in Congress.
He's a senator.
I
Okay.
I would like to see her starting to build a more statewide presence.
Look, she's popular.
She's a she's a celebrity in many ways.
But don't forget Gillibrand voted with Schumer, I believe, and she's the senator.
New York always seems to have one senator from the city and one senator from upstate.
And we don't want to waste her in a primary if it's guaranteed that she can't win.
It's possible she can, okay?
I'd love to see that.
I think she should, but I'm not telling her to announce today.
I think people have to organize and start calculating the numbers.
How much money would it take to match the...
Dom salvia show that is Harvey K professor emeritus of democracy from the University of Wisconsin Green Bay I'm mad about that folk man.
I mean, I can't believe there was nothing gained it literally zero is basically an endorsement of what Trump is doing I don't know how else to look at how else to spin it, but you know what?
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He's been around a long time.
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The roads are, there's no salt.
Everything's nice.
It's shiny.
Occasionally, maybe you get some sand, but that's the worst thing, man.
No, I get you, man.
A clean car.
I need to wash my face.
We had five inches of snow in Milwaukee yesterday.
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Five inches of snow.
Yes.
Really?
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That's how much?
Yes.
I know.
I couldn't believe we're supposed to get like an inch.
So I got cars a little cell phone.
Yeah on Saturday, I got together with my husband's Dad and stepmom and a cousin who my husband had never met before and so I had never met before
And we just had a great time.
We had dinner.
We played some games.
And it was just wonderful to connect with this woman who I had never met.
He had never met.
But, you know, they shared that bond.
And we just, we had a great time.
We played some apples to apples, played some illustrations.
It was a good time.
It was fun.
And it was just a reminder that, you know, get yourself out there, connect with people.
Even if you haven't talked to them in a long time, even if you have a bond, but you've never actually really connected.
Give it a shot.
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Patrick's Day.
So happy St.
Pat is a, but much more importantly, my baby girl turns 20 years old today.
Can you believe it?
I know I was at even possible.
I'm only 29 myself.
It's amazing how that happens.
And so we had the, we had family over nine of them came over to the, to the place and
cook some food, and Izzy picked up some ham and rolls from Gloria also.
Man, that place
And same thing, manual family and hung around the dinner table and just hung out for a few hours.
It was.
great.
We'll laugh at our asses off.
And my mother-in-law is swearing.
So we all started swearing.
It was a great celebration.
And so today, today is her birthday, 20 years old.
Happy birthday, Izzy.
Can't believe it.
My son turns 23 next month.
I know.
A lot of birthdays in the air these days.
Also, I got to say, I had some hum and touch.
Haman Tashin, they're cookies that we make for the Jewish holiday of Purim.
They are a soft, triangular cookie with jam in the middle.
Traditionally, some people also do like chocolate or something.
And yeah, they're supposed to represent the...
the villain of the story of Porum, either his hat, his ears, or his pockets.
We're not totally sure, but apparently he had some triangles going on, and so he was real bad, so we eat his hat or ears or pockets in a delicious fashion.
Yeah, I tell you what.
In my news feed, there's one source of positivity right now, and that is in the world of astronomy with the launch of the James Webb Telescope.
Yeah.
All the data is getting.
finding new stars, new planets, new galaxies, new black holes, you name it.
The amount of data we're getting is amazing and our ability to process it, use that data, turn it into beautiful pictures.
Just amazing.
And it's bringing up other things in the Hubble telescope now.
It's doing amazing
Yeah, Elle, thank you so much.
Talking with my daughter, she's also a space nerd.
Now we watch the spacey stuff.
Sometimes stuff, my wife just falls asleep because it's so peaceful and serene and then the announcer's voice, you know, it's calm.
But yeah, the space stuff is super cool.
And, you know, some people still believe the earth is 6,000 years old.
You know, I mean,
