This is the Dom Salvia show and it is on all the broadcast stations of Civic Media on this very important day.
This significant, hugely significant day in the history of America, coming to you from Radio Park in Racine, joined here in the studios of Civic Media by my outstanding producer and colleague as we talk with you today and analyze and discuss this major event in American history that's folding, unfolding, even as we speak.
Delighted to have you with me, but also my terrific producer, Jess, who's here with me, and we are going to be taking your phone call.
your comments, your questions.
Your inquiries, that number here is 855-752-4842.
I am not Dom Salvia, although I appear routinely with Jess and him on his show, typically late in the week.
Dom is away doing some important work today, and he has asked me to sit in for him on this important day in our history.
He probably did not predict that our syllabus, Jess, would be as dramatic as it has been.
but dictated by what otherwise would have been and still is a major news story coming out of Washington.
but increased in ferocity and magnitude and significant by the fact that there was almost a brawl this afternoon, this morning, today, throughout the day in the Oval Office of the White House, something that we have never seen before in American history, a contest, a fighting spat among the Vice President of the United States, the President of the United States, and the President of Ukraine.
coming here, coming here to try to attempt not only to patch over some differences, but arguably, arguably maybe sort of also
Talk about the possibility of an agreement that would have involved providing some of the minerals from Ukraine to the United States.
We'll get into that a little bit more.
It all went off the rails today.
We're gonna spend some time listening to that here on the broadcast stations of civic media, digesting it.
analyzing it and offering some commentary about why this is indeed so significant at the big levels, at the medium levels, at the small levels as well.
This once again, the Dom Salvia Show.
My name, Jim Santel, sitting in for Dom on this important day in our history.
Once again, soliciting with my partner,
Jess, your comments and questions at 855-752-4842.
You have become used to my beginning these kinds of analyses with some references to the law and to the Constitution.
Indeed, that's where we're going to begin this afternoon, even as we promise moving quickly into the major story, giving you some audio.
some sense of the calamity in the White House of earlier today.
But let's begin by thinking once again about the Constitution of the United States of America.
Whether you watch tonight on television or listen as you can in just a few moments to the audio of what happened in the Oval Office involving President Zelensky, President Trump, and Vice President Vance today, whether you do that, however you consume that particular piece of history.
going on today you will also come away thinking how is it how is it that we've come to this place that we've come to this time when we have leaders supposedly of the western world we'll get back to talk about world order concepts in just a few moments but you may also come to ask yourself how is it
that the President of the United States of America is the one who's engaging with foreign officials on these all-important issues.
That is not an insignificant question.
It's a civics question that, once again, I suspect that most of us who have gone through sixth, seventh, and eighth grade civics, maybe even later in your school years, understand.
But it's important to understand, too, that the responsibility
For international matters, yes indeed, including our relationship with Ukraine, our relationship to nations in Western Europe, in Africa, in Asia.
Australia, South America, North America, all places also derives from several different spots in the Constitution of the United States of America.
In fact, Article 2 of the Constitution, in which we talk all about the presidency setting up his, perhaps one day, her responsibilities under this terrific document, fairly sparse when it comes to international obligations and responsibilities, talk plainly in Section 1 and Section 2 about
Of course, being the commander-in-chief, that's no small thing.
And that gives rise to a lot of the president's responsibilities when it comes to overseas and international engagements.
Also talks about the capacity, the obligation of our president to appoint ambassadors, to sign off on treaties, to all kinds of other things that suggest the president does indeed have a significant role when it comes to engaging with foreign emissaries and foreign leaders.
But it's significant to note that, yes, indeed, the Congress of the United States of America, the first portion of the Constitution of the United States, Article I of the Constitution, provides an awful lot of responsibility vested in the Congress in our legislature as well.
Commerce, commerce involving foreign nations, things related to war powers, of course, that's the big one, declaring war, granting letters and rules.
captures on land and water, all kinds of things related to our movements around the globe, also imports.
significant these days as our president talks a lot about imports and tariffs in our nation and so it is important to remember even on this day when we focus upon the executive branch and its relationship to foreign nations that our Congress also has a say some involvement in this and indeed I suspect that one of the takeaways from this horrific thing that happened today in America
In the White House, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is, where is Congress?
What is the congressional response to this?
From both the Democrats, the Republicans, independents, all people across America should be asking their representatives how they feel about this.
And by that, I don't mean emotionally.
What their intellectual takeaway is from what they see and what they hear these days in the White House.
Specifically today, February 28th.
2025 here on the Dom Salvia show.
There is no doubt that the arrival of of Zelensky, Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine on Friday was a part of an orchestrated arrival.
The plan, of course, was to not only ease some of the tensions that have been growing between the current president of the United States and the current president of Ukraine, but also once again to perhaps negotiate, maybe even put the final
trappings of this deal related to minerals in Ukraine, maybe for some kind of odd repayment for the support that our nation has provided in the war against Russia.
But all of that, all of that follows an awful lot of indication that the world is changing and that world order
is no longer what it was even as late as a couple of months ago.
Jess and I are going to take you through a few of those specific indications that lead up to today's events that indicate again that over the past, frankly, weeks and certainly days, there has been a movement by this president to realign the very world order, the world order according to which we live and we breathe.
Let's begin with some things that you have all also digested in recent days.
We know that as much as we've got the routine visits of foreign officials
to the White House for various purposes.
Some of them, obviously, more closely allied to the United States than others.
One of our close allies, of course, is France.
And that goes back to the time of the Revolutionary War.
We know that well the support the French gave us in fighting the Brits.
And so, perhaps in some linear relationship between that and what happened just earlier this week, we had Emmanuel Macron.
who is, of course, the president of France visiting the president, sitting in the very chair that Zelensky was sitting in today and engaging with the president in some discussion about this issue of who is going to pay for or even repay for the support given the United States and Europe to fight the war effort in Ukraine.
The president began to talk about some of that and began to use words like repayment.
The Europeans doing the same thing.
And at some point, Emmanuel Macron, who plainly is appreciating fully what the president is saying, decided that he could not countenance that, could not stand to have what is basically a lie, not just a misstatement, a lie about the arrangements for that war support he reached over.
He grabbed the forearm of our president and began to speak and corrected our president on his basic fundamental lie about what was going on in connection with the sport given to our ally, at least up until today, and that's Ukraine.
Just do we have that cut with Immanuel
listen.
Again, just so you understand, Europe is loaning the money to Ukraine.
They get their money back.
No, in fact, to be frank, we paid 60% of the total default.
And it was through, like the US, loans, guarantee, grants, and we provided real money to be clear.
We have 230 billion frozen assets in Europe, Russian assets, but this is not
as a collateral of a loan, because this is not our belonging.
So they are frozen.
If at the end of the day in the negotiation we will have with Russia, they're ready to give it to us, super.
It would be loaned at the end of the day, and Russia would have paid for that.
This is my wish.
If you believe that, it's OK with me.
Mr.
If they get their money back, we don't, and now we do.
But that's only fair.
An incredible exchange in the White House just days ago in the very seats that the President of the United States and the President of Ukraine were seated, and along with the Vice President, just off to the side earlier today, the relationship between France and the United States has been longstanding, literally hundreds of years, and there it is cracking.
And there you not only have lies told by our president, corrected by the French president for clarity, not only today, but for all time.
But you've got a reordering in a small way, but nonetheless a significant way of the world order and the relationship that has existed between France and our nation.
And that's the other important point again that that our current president continues to bandy about not only on social media but but in his
spoken word as well.
This notion somehow that history has to be rewritten so that we understand the war's initiation as its origin as something other than what it was, all of that being corrected by an ally of ours in the Oval Office of the White House.
As our broadcast this afternoon, we're going to trace some additional cracks in the world order involving the British Prime Minister and, yes, indeed, ultimately, relationship between our nation and Ukraine, all of that, a part of our continuing coverage here, getting to this major story that changes American history, changes world history here on The Dom Salvia Show.
This is the Dom Salvia Show.
My name's Jim Santel, sitting in for Dom Salvia this hour and next hour as your host.
Also joining me in the studio here of Civic Media is my outstanding producer, Jess, and together we are taking your questions, your comments, your insights, your perspectives on this major story.
Leading into that, the two of us are, by providing some recent history in connection with other
Much smaller, it turns out, spats between our allies and the United States, also happening in the Oval Office.
We had the visit also just days ago of Kira Starmer, who is the fairly recently elected Prime Minister of Great Britain, similarly engaging in public discussion in the media, in front of the media, for all of us to consume about this continuing issue related to
repayment of Ukraine and the mechanisms through which we provided historically and continue to provide support for the Ukrainian government.
Also, also indicating that when it comes to Great Britain, England, one of our strongest, if not the strongest, allies, yes, even after the Revolutionary War, becoming just that, also some fracturing there as well.
And then we have an awful lot of commentary by our president himself, who begins to talk about other world leaders, including a fellow named Putin.
He is, of course, the president of Russia.
And just I think we've got some tape of him, some audio of him talking about whether or not.
Putin is a dictator.
His status on the face of the planet.
Can we place some of that?
dictator?
I think that we're going to see how it all works out.
Let's see what happens.
I think we have a chance of a really good settlement between various countries.
And, you know, you're talking about Europe.
And you're talking about Ukraine as part of that whole situation.
The other side has a lot of support also.
Indeed.
That's what we call non-responsive in my industry, and I suspect certainly in yours, in common language, right?
That's not responsive to the question.
Plainly, our president could not publicly state.
that Putin is a dictator, something that everyone who understands recent history not only appreciates but is not afraid to articulate to describe something as what it is.
could not be better stated exactly and so that leads just into yet another clip that we have in which in the wake of of this commentary this general language that we have going on now in the White House about who is a dictator and who is not we know that our president also on social media other venues referred to Zelensky again plainly before he's arrived today
as a dictator, suggesting once again that the war in Ukraine somehow was the product of aggression by Ukraine and by Zelensky himself, which is not only laughable, but horrifically, again, in the category of a lie.
But we've got a reporter also asking the president, again, in a very recent news presentation, a news engagement there in the East Room of the White House,
whether or not the president, our president intended to apologize, apologize to Volodymyr Zelensky upon his arrival for describing Zelensky as a dictator.
Just do we have that tape as well?
Mr. President, tomorrow you're seeing President Zelensky to sign this deal on minerals and energy that could be hugely important.
to the United States.
Will you take the opportunity to apologize to him for calling him a dictator while praising Vladimir Putin, who is a dictator?
I think we're going to have a very good meeting tomorrow, 11 o'clock, and I think we're going to have a very good meeting tomorrow morning.
We're going to get along really well, okay?
We have a lot of respect.
I have a lot of respect for him.
We've given them a lot of equipment and a lot of money, but they have fought very bravely, no matter how you figure.
They have really fought.
Somebody has to use that equipment, and they have been very brave in that sense.
Maybe not complete word salad there because we do get some things that just finally lead into our major story of the day which should have all Americans quaking, all Americans not just scratching their heads about what happened but fearful about the world order today.
Recall again what you just heard, which is yesterday, the president of the United States of America anticipating this hastily organized visit by Volodymyr Zelensky to the United States.
He described it as anticipating a very good meeting.
We're going to get along very well.
Justin, I hear that correctly.
We're going to get along very well.
We've got those verbs rebuked, tussled.
Let's set this up and then we're going to be hearing some cuts from this calamitous event in the Oval Office again.
Zelensky is coming to Washington, D.C.
today.
It was meant to once again, as I've said, smoother than this rift that has developed between Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelensky, maybe to seal this agreement that was demanded by our president, according to which Ukraine would
presumably hand over maybe billions of dollars worth of mineral rights.
Maybe to repay somehow the military aid that was provided by our country under the administration of Joe Biden.
I suspect he did an awful lot of things to say about what happened today as well.
And also approved by the Congress over the past three years since Russia, and let's say it once again to be clear, is full-fledged invasion.
in 2022 of Ukraine.
All of that, all of that, anteced to what happened.
Donald Trump seemingly ready to make nice, as he said with Volodymyr Zelensky by telling reporters on Thursday that he could quite remember that dictator comment again, he expects expressing his respect and welcoming him to the White House.
And that brings us to the door of the West Wing just hours ago with an honor guard, shaking hands politely, but without a great deal of warmth.
As we come back here, the encounter that followed that initial greeting went very, very bad.
They were going to recount that, going to play some clips of this calamity, and then do some analysis on the far end here on the Dom Salvia
show.
My name is Jim Santel, sitting in for Dom this afternoon, this hour, next hour as well, joined in the Radio Park Studio here of Civic Media by my outstanding producer, Jess.
And together, we're taking your calls, your questions, your comments, already receiving some terrific texts.
expressing your interests, your concerns about what's happened today in Washington, DC.
Len from Madison writing again, Trump as president has again exhibited another really foul movement in America and the world.
A
I like that, Len.
Vowel, vowel movement to America and the world.
We also have Len also.
Todd, rather, saying, think about this.
He called Zelensky a dictator, yet met with him, refused to call Putin a dictator.
And yes, indeed.
That's exactly what Jess and I have been presenting here as a predicate, a preliminary to all of this in the days
Immediately before this, we've got a text calling in, a text coming in from Kimber outrageously disgraceful conduct on the part of this administration.
And so we have Volodymyr Zelensky up to the West Wing and the Oval Office of the West Wing sitting down with the President of the United States of America earlier today.
He is in his usual dark long sleeve shirt.
He begins to explain.
the history of the war with Russia.
Again, that's for everyone's consumption, probably for the consumption of our president as well.
Notably, it went back to 2014, when Moscow first seized Crimea and occupied territory there in eastern Ukraine, and then things began to go badly.
Our vice president was also sitting there on an adjacent couch.
Indeed, even before we get to his intercession, hear the things that he said that began to set this conversation on fire.
Note that JD Vance also began to recraft the world order that we're talking about a lot this afternoon.
Recall that not too long ago, he was at the Munich Security Conference, and he delivered a speech to our European so-called allies, the 61st Security Conference.
described backsliding on freedom of speech and democracy among the European nations regarding the relationship between the United States and the European allies began to indicate that the problems lie not with our foes but internal to Europe described an ideological war.
That's beginning to happen.
There are a culture war against the United States European allies That's the way many people have begun to regard this speech again a real chasm in the relationship between our European allies in the United States all of this all of this Leading up the wrecking ball of Munich it's sometimes called but all of that leading up to our hearing once again my vice president adjust this afternoon after Volodymyr Zelensky politely and diplomatically explaining the
predicates for his coming there, explaining why it is his nation, has had its sovereignty violated by the invasion by Russia.
And that is when J.D.
Vance, our vice president, interrupted and began assailing Volodymyr Zelensky.
I think we have got that tape
as
I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to end the destruction of your country.
Mr. President, Mr. President, with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office and try to litigate this in front of the American media.
Right now you guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you have manpower problems.
You should be thanking the President for trying to bring it into this conflict.
Have
I have actually watched and seen the stories, and I know what happens is you bring people, you bring them on a propaganda tour, Mr. President.
Do you disagree that you've had problems bringing people into your military?
And do you think that it's respectful to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America and attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of your country?
A lot of questions.
Let's start from the beginning.
Let's start from the beginning.
That is the president of Ukraine, our ally, I think, to this moment, but maybe less so after this afternoon.
not only trying to explain to his counterparts here in the United States why his country is being overrun by the Russian invaders, but also the continuing need for support.
That's why he's here.
And maybe this mineral deal that he was about to sign in some way would cement, maybe not completely cement, but strengthen in some ways the tough thing that's been going on recently.
What happens, of course, after that is the accusations, again, being made by our vice president right after that, the vice president accused Mr. Zelensky of mounting a propaganda tour in the United States, and again, questions him on whether it's respectful to come to the office, the Oval Office, as you just heard, and disrespect the very...
President who has been supporting him.
Volodymyr Zelensky tried to respond to our vice-prince assertion and said that the United States could feel threatened by Russia someday.
And isn't that the truth?
Isn't that the good instruction just provided by an historian plainly?
This is why these overseas matters, these challenges, these wars, these attacks upon other democracies are appropriately viewed as threats to our nation as well.
That's the point that Volodymyr Zelensky is making so clearly and so easily today, not sinking in.
Volodymyr Zelensky says, you have a nice ocean.
and don't feel now, but you will feel it in the future.
He's telling our president about international things, the way the world works, and that one, that ocean that maybe seemingly protects you, in fact, will not protect you for all time.
This is the time to stand up, he is saying, to the Russians, prevent them from taking over my country, he says, as a way of protecting not only Ukraine and Europe and all other nations where freedom reigns, but also this nation as well.
And then that triggered our president.
The president of the United States of America then sitting just to the left of Volodymyr Zelensky triggered him and cut off Volodymyr Zelensky.
And we've got the tape of that as well.
I believe we've got that and began to talk about the ways in which Zelensky was engaging with the vice president, Donald Trump saying basically, don't tell us what we're going to feel.
You're not in a good position.
I think, Jess, we've got that tape as well.
this.
very good.
You will feel influenced.
We're
to feel very good and very strong.
You will feel
yourself to be in a very bad position and it happens to be right about
You're not in a good position.
You don't have
Stunning exchange going on again between the leaders of two allied nations, at least until this afternoon.
Perhaps it will continue for some time.
Gambling with World War III is what our president said about what Mr. Zelinski was
saying diplomatically and in a straightforward fashion.
Along the way, our vice president jumped back in and had to say this.
He said, have you said thank you once?
The answer is yes, Mr. Vice President.
Far more
He has gone to the well of the Congress and thanked the Congress for a huge amount of support.
Military financial support.
that our nation is given, also thanking other European allies for the support they have given to push Russia back.
Yes, the answer is, yes, he has thanked our nation.
He has thanked the former president.
He has thanked this president.
The answer to that question, Mr. Vice President, is yes.
And then along the way, Jess, we get this other rant by our president.
And again, it's more than word salad.
It is plainly calling up all the demons in his head that somehow were unleashed.
by virtue of this conversation with an allied leader in the Oval Office of the White House.
Do we have that?
Let me tell you, Putin went through a hell of a lot with me.
He went through a phony witch hunt, where they used him and Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.
You ever hear of that deal?
That was a phony, that was a phony Hunter Biden, Joe Biden scam.
Hillary Clinton, shifty Adam Schiff.
It was a Democrat scam.
And he had to go through that.
And he did go through it.
We didn't end up in a war.
And he went through it.
He was accused of all that stuff.
He had nothing to do with it.
He came out of Hunter Biden's bathroom.
That's the level of the discourse.
The level of the diplomatic engagement by the President of the United States of America just a few hours ago.
What we know of course is that in the wake of what can only be described as a diplomatic catastrophe People in the State Department whether they are political appointees or the long-standing civil servants were there people in all branches of government that knows something about international affairs and domestic affairs are looking at this today and saying absolute calamity absolute destruction of a relationship a leader of Ukraine
coming to our nation again to maybe bring to some conclusions, some initial negotiation that would have strengthened our ties.
And in fact, we get into this, not just disagreement, but shouting match inside the White House in the Oval Office.
Absolutely.
Many people have noted already that this was not a match at all.
This was simply bullying and shouting.
The reporting is also that the Ukrainian ambassador, who is of course there, that always happens whenever you've got a foreign leader coming to the United States.
The Ukrainian ambassador to the United States is there.
Apparently she has her head in her hands while this is going on an abject disbelief, seeing all of this destroyed.
There is no doubt that she and her staff have spent a huge amount of time, it's not just about her and the staff, but a huge amount of time putting this all together, maybe looking for a time at the end of today when there might have been some glimmer of small hope for a restoration of this breached relationship and maybe some way.
for the Ukrainians to continue to get support from the United States and this president in particular by signing a document.
There was supposed to be a press conference after this, which of course was quickly canceled, and we know what happened afterwards, and it's all over the news as well.
Volodymyr Zelensky, our ally.
quickly got back into his van, left the West Wing and took off.
After that hostile exchange in the Oval Office, President Trump issued a statement saying that he and Zelensky had a very meaningful meeting.
But that he had determined that the Ukrainian leader is, quote, not ready for peace if America is involved.
Trump said Zelensky can come back when he is ready for peace, reiterating some claims that he made during that...
Explosive meeting, words fail in describing it.
Saint Dilsonsky disrespected once again the United States of America in its cherished Oval Office, pleading his case for the country's security by pressing for more than just a ceasefire.
Yes, Mr. President, that's what the Ukrainian president was there to do, to press for peace, but also to press for peace in a way that would ensure the future of Ukrainian sovereignty.
Much was learned that could never be understood without conversation under such fire and pressure.
That's what our president said.
It's amazing what comes out through emotion.
Oh my, oh my.
All of that following this calamitous engagement, which is a very diplomatic way of saying something else completely in the Oval Office today.
We also know that as a footnote to all of this, Donald Trump then said,
Wow, this is going to make great television.
This is going to make great television.
Indeed, among the commentary that I will offer this afternoon, inviting yours as well.
And yes, we're going to go to the phones in just a moment or so.
Part of the outrage of this is that our president concludes all of this by talking about how the television images will look.
And that obviously animates a lot of his focus when it comes to the presidency itself.
We know as well, President does have a capacity for turning these kinds of things, at least for his base, and people don't understand what's going on here.
That kind of visual imagery, that fight, some of his supporters like that a lot, in fact.
all Americans should recoil in horror in seeing and understanding what happened today.
When we come back here on The Dime Salvia Show, more analysis, your calls, your comments as well here on the broadcast stations of Civic Media.
We're-
My name is Jim Santel, hosting in the final segment of this first hour of our broadcast.
Also joined here in Radio Park with my wonderful, fantastic producer, Jess, and together we're taking your comments, your questions, your calls, including a call from Brian, calling in from Milwaukee.
Brian, being a part of our conversation this afternoon, thank you for doing just that.
Go
ahead, Brian.
My call is always in a great show.
Um, my big thing is that just hope that those that are listening that are mega supporters, Republicans and whatnot, I hope that today is the wake up call that they need, you know, because this is just, this was the last straw.
I mean, it
It should be.
And I still have friends that are backing and saying, Oh, no, this is a great thing today.
I listened to previous shows like Megan Donnan.
I'm glad that she stood up to some of those callers because it's like, what are you guys thinking?
And for Trump to say to Zelensky, well, you're the one that's going to start World War III.
No, Trump, you're the one that's going to.
And this country is so divided that I'm afraid that we are going to have another civil war in this country.
I don't want to be sitting there shooting up family members or, you know, battling the states or whatever because our
how political views are so different.
And I'm afraid that's what's gonna happen.
And all these other countries like Russia and China, they want us to fall apart.
They're thinking this is great.
A couple of very important things to unpack there, Brian.
One is just your final point there, which is there is an audience out there that is clapping, applauding, right, Brian?
And it is people in China, people in Russia.
We're seeing this once again as the devolution, the destruction of the world order in particular, this alliance relationship there, right?
And so a very important posture here.
And your first point, Brian, no less important.
This was an opportunity for our president to show what every president
Almost every president before him has been, which is a statesman, someone who, again, can put aside a lot, if not all, of the animus that may animate him, perhaps one day her, when it comes to relationships with foreign leaders, and say,
This is a time for unity.
We need to push back not only on the forces of evil and of autocracy that are right now, not just knocking at the Ukrainian door, they've busted through.
They've taken Crimea, they've taken a major portion of the Eastern geography of Ukraine.
This was a time for our president to show something beyond himself, beyond just his campaign rhetoric and show that he is a unifying factor.
In the wake of all of that, in the wake of the Emmanuel Macron disaster and the Keir Starmer disaster and the vice-president Vance disaster overseas, all of these other indications that the world order is coming apart and it is changing dramatically, this was an opportunity for our president to say, no, Americans, you can be assured.
Brian, that the war that you're predicting here with a small pee will not in fact happen.
Be safe, be secure.
And we're going to put together an arrangement here.
Donald Trump would call it a deal.
We're going to put together a treaty here, some arrangement pursuant to which we can ensure our future longevity both in the United States and also the security of our ally in Ukraine in Eastern Europe.
And he didn't do that, did just the opposite.
A lot of the headlines that Jess has also digested for me and for all of you this afternoon suggest wildly, appropriately, that Donald Trump threw through the president of Ukraine out of the White House.
just hours or so ago.
Brian, I appreciate very much that comment.
Also noting that in connection with the hope that you've articulated that others would finally understand the seriousness of this president.
We've got others who are weighing in on just what happened here.
Bill from Waukesha, saying Zalewski was the only adult in the room.
Indeed.
Right.
Right.
Exactly.
We've got Robert from Fond du Lac, noting that Trump is a communist pig, a draft dodging coward, grifter and con man.
But tell us what you really think.
Right.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Robert apparently coming out of his shell today.
Appropriately, I should all Americans.
Volodymyr Zelensky, Robert says, has more courage in his little finger than Trump and Vance have in their entire bodies.
Appropriate to
talk about that.
And we've got Kenneth from Stoughton also saying that the S&D, there are some who looked at this, including one of our congressmen, Direct Van Orden, claiming today, according to Kenneth, that today was a great day for America.
I'm not going to... I would
Robert from West Dallas saying this show that Vice President Vance is not a serious person.
What a great, great way to describe.
Not a serious person.
Not a serious person.
A serious person.
He's in the vice presidency, second highest office in Orlando, and he's not a serious person and also not ready for prime time.
Maybe invoking a little bit of the president's own apparently glee.
Is that what it is that this would make great television?
We've got Robert Tulso, Dana I'm sorry from the cross also saying that Trump and Vance told the world today to all of us that the US now sides with the axis of evil and that is a perfect lead-in into my final comments which are the changing of this world order.
We have seen perhaps now, today, not the complete consummation of that break from what has been the history of our nation since World War II, but close to it.
When we come back in our second hour, more about that commentary, about the change in world order that happened today in the West Wing, the Oval Office of the White House, stay with us for more discussion here on the Dom Salvia Show.
