A hostile takeover, but we’ll resist (Hour 2)

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A hostile takeover, but we’ll resist (Hour 2)

The Dom Salvia Show · Thu Feb 20, 2025

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9 to 11 a.m.

on Saturday

exactly

right man appreciate I hope we don't use up all your material

but you know we both know that 17 more things will happen between now and Saturday morning

right man well one of the things that happened today counselor

Cash Patel Cash Patel Cash Money Patel man.

He is now in charge of the FBI and Wow, he's an author of children's books Tom,

right?

He is an author of a

book.

One of his books from two thousand and twenty three according to notice.org government gangsters.

You know the guy named cash is talking about gangsters kind of gets me going.

Here's the title.

government gangsters, the deep state, the truth and the battle for our democracy.

He made a list of 60 public officials and staffers, which included members of Trump's first administration as well as former president Joe Biden's claiming they were members of the deep state.

He also claimed the FBI.

Now this is the organization he is now leading.

He claimed the FBI instigated the January six capital riots.

It's the FBI.

It's like Ukraine made Russia.

Invaded

right

now.

Why did you make me hit you again?

You

know what I'm saying?

What are we talking about?

It's the same complete on his head

Not logic, it's mislogic, whatever the opposite of logic is.

And yes, indeed, sometime between now and tomorrow morning when he'll go into that building, that J. Edgar Hoover building, that's the 1970s, kind of an ugly building right there and right across the street from the Department of Justice.

And he'll be in charge of quite literally thousands of special agents, both there in Washington, D.C.

and around the country.

And yes, to the extent that, again, this is a man who's talked about enemies, he's got them in that book.

He's talked about turning the Department of Justice into a museum on day one.

Well, hopefully he won't do that, but we'll see what tomorrow brings.

But this issue, once again, of believing that somehow the special agents, the leadership of the Department of Justice and, yes, indeed, the FBI in particular, orchestrated January 6th.

Again, that should have disqualified him.

from the get-go.

And I realize it doesn't because we've got this extreme loyalty inside the United States Senate these days.

But this is the man who now maybe believes in these kinds of conspiracies and the people around him playing that we know they're also leaving.

They're also leaving because they cannot tolerate the craziness on this, right?

And here's the fine point on it.

We talk again with someone with tongue in cheek, but again, I've often said this and you've said this as well, Dom.

The investigation is the punishment.

right?

You don't necessarily need to get down the street to the Pettyman federal courthouse and get a grand jury to indict.

You open that file.

It says, Don McSalvia on it.

And let's take a look at what he may have done.

Truly a fishing expedition, no basis whatsoever.

Those kinds of cases, they're really begun at the FBI.

At some point, they're walked across the street or they're brought to U.S.

Attorney's offices around the country.

And then the question is, does U.S.

Attorney want to put her or his imprimatur on those and pursue in a grand jury matters?

That new

U.S.

Attorney that was just appointed by Donald Trump?

There you go, right?

Martin, who quite literally is a couple of blocks away in the U.S.

Attorney's office right there.

But the investigations themselves, those can and do begin at the FBI.

And that should send chills, once again, up and down the backs of everybody who's thinking about America and the possibility, once again, that you could be targeted.

if you are, and indeed, their request for your testimony, your statements, your all sorts of, we want documents from you, Mr. Santel, about what you have done about, you know, and again, at the other, at the Treasury Department, right next to the White House there.

By the way, our other friend there, Musk has got access to your tax returns, so maybe we'll get those very easily without going through the process before.

It is just right for all sorts of abuses, absent those checks and balances.

This is a man who has everything about his history up to this point and what he has said, what he has done suggests he has nothing but contempt.

for not only the FBI, but for the process by which investigations are properly undertaken.

Properly.

Is

that subjective?

If he opens the file on me, Jim, it's going to be because I'm guilty of kicking all the ass and taking all the names.

Right.

Right.

And

that

was your New Year's resolution.

Right.

Right.

And again, we haven't chatted about it yet, but I suspect we will.

And the president again, two days ago, says, you know what?

I am now in charge of the FCC.

And I'm in charge of all of these other independent agencies.

when the president, as he did, said that, and that's the other big one that's out there.

I don't want to leave Cash Patel quite yet, but that's the other really big news story, in addition to this musk stuff at the Social Security Administration at the IRS.

When the president of the United States of America, yes, once again, issues a piece of paper with his very elaborate signature on it, but says, you know what, I'm not going to embrace this thing called the Unitary Executive Theory, and all those independent agencies out there

All of them are now in my control and an interpretation of the law, as you said, that contravenes what I say, what the attorney general says is not the law.

Meaning

only I and the Attorney General can tell you what the law is but and of course as part of the That that that smell of authoritarianism

that we've had

burning the last couple of days specifically I mean I guess this week I mean he started out with the with the Napoleon quote, you know You know breaking law if you save in the country comes up exactly with that and then yesterday or the day before yesterday He's the king, you know, there's a very specific progression or at least at least consistent attitude Coming coming out of this administration.

Absolutely.

And again, well

Will those kinds of things be challenged?

Sure they will.

Federal judges, trial judges, and probably appellate judges will similarly stop this from going ahead in terms of the President exercising rulemaking authority and other things with respect to these agencies.

But once again, I've said it now three or four times just this afternoon, once it gets up to the Supreme Court, it's told them back in July one, you got to be able to do what you can do, what you should be able to do to make sure the government goes.

And there is an argument based upon that.

Trump versus the United States case, the first few pages that what he's doing again in undermining not only the Constitution, but basically the very ways in which all of these independent agencies have been established, maybe just maybe the Supreme Court says, yeah, we've gotten it wrong since FD.

and the president should have responsibility.

That's the country in which we're living right now, and that's the specter.

Well, the good news is this is a second term.

We can't run again eight

five seven two four and so he may have authority over the Federal Election Commission, which is also an independent agency.

What do they do?

They establish rules and regulations for federal elections.

Huh?

We're going to have another one and the

commission bipartisan

and they

don't do squat because it's always by you know, it's a republic as a Democrats equal number each or nothing gets done,

right?

And all the more reason then he will say that's the reason why

I need to be the one to supplant these board members who are not doing anything.

We don't have a quorum.

We can't can't get things out of there.

And for that reason, too, he will say, Donald Trump, my president will say, I need authority to direct the the FEC to do what it should do, including the election in 2028.

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Mark, from the SAC, you will be next.

Welcome, sir.

What do you got for us?

You know, let's just remember that none of Musk's little minions have been vetted at all.

We don't even know if they're American citizens.

You know, at least when I started with the state of Wisconsin years ago, I mean, that I had to sign off on an ethics agreement.

I agreed to, had to read the ethics code and agreed to comply with it.

These guys haven't had to do that.

They haven't had to go and gone through any, any particular screens, any background checks or anything like that.

The fact that they're digging into our personal information, and Trump is not questioning this kind of thing, we should just put a little bug in Trump's ear and say, hey, Mr. President, those guys are looking at your information too.

Maybe that

would shut everything

down right quick.

And Mark, again, when you work for the state, again, I have myself not worked for the state, but I'm federal government, I know that on your first day and probably once a year, you had to sign off on all those commitments to uphold the constitution of the state of Wisconsin, the United States, and to do things according to rules and regulations, and to do things ethically, and not make disclosures, right?

That's a part and parcel of every employment situation government.

Thanks for the call, Mark.

Appreciate it.

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James Santel, host of Amicus, the Law Review, broadcasting on Saturdays 9 to 11 a.m.

Right here on the Civic Media Radio Network, giving you a little preview of that fine conversation.

JustPS is on the board.

You folks are on the lines.

Whisko Paul, you will be next.

Welcome, sir.

What do you got for us?

Thanks for taking my call.

Great show today, you guys.

First of all, I'd like to start off by thanking

Eric Garland for not doing his job.

That's a biggie right there.

And then there's another gentleman named Jim Comey was out of the FBI that opened up an investigation on Hillary that should have never happened.

So they're very implicated in this too.

But I want to bring up one thing here.

And that's Trump actually has an army now.

He's

got 1,600 people out there, Paul, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, I think it's because the top of the republicans are scared to death of them.

And I don't, I don't see this ending well.

I think I

just lost the

Supreme Court.

The Supreme Court's going to have to step up here.

And then when you think about that also, maybe he has another army, maybe the United States army, because it's

Minion is in charge of that also, but I will just leave you with this.

The financial times that I read today, that in the current course of things with what Mark is doing in the government, shutting down all these research things that are going on, we're headed for a recession in the next six months and not an easy recession.

So there's a lot of things to look at here.

And that's why I'm going home and drinking some Johnny Black.

Usually, it's the spot of call for Pauli, but when it gets a little heavy, you've got to go to the heavy stuff, little Johnny Walker Black.

Thank you for the call.

Wisco, your thoughts, Counselor.

Again, Paul needs to continue to be out there, as do all the other Americans, continuing to highlight these things.

And again, it's happening quickly.

Again, we already highlighted the notion that it's been just one month.

It seems like it's been several years, but it's been just one month, and even with all these numbers of executive orders out there.

Yes, there are people today and do not mean to minimize the dramatic impact upon all these federal employees out there who no longer have jobs today And they're no longer doing their jobs.

There's nobody replacing them right away The consequences of this are immediate.

They're happening right now and again to Paul's good point whether it's six months or eight months down the road Let's take the temperature of the country once again and let's draw the line right back to today And make certain we all understand that this happened because of these things going on in the White House right now

folks.

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We can, we can draw this line back to, to 30 days ago.

And, and what's going to happen in 30 days from now and 60 days from now and 90 days from now, his poll numbers are already declining as the results of some of these 70 some executive orders, historic beginning of the Trump administration.

Some folks aren't very happy, including some Republicans and Megas come back with us.

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We got a YouTuber comment marks his cash for shells confirmation as FBI director is a massive win for accountability.

He'll expose the deep stage rot.

and refocus the Bureau on law enforcement, not political vendettas.

Didn't he publish an enemy's list today?

I mean, he literally put it in his book, dude.

It is in

his book, yes.

Yeah, the people were going to go after.

And again, the President of the United States of America has said, I am, right, your retribution.

Right?

And the president, as we know now, can pick up the phone and talk to his attorney general about how that retribution gets enacted.

And it's not too much to assume that he'll also call Kashpatel and say, you know what, here are the people we need to go after.

And Casper said, we'll take that call.

We'll take that call.

You better be loyal.

That's how it works.

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Callers be patient.

Want to talk about this in the break.

I don't want to kind of throw this one out there as well.

Vanity Fair reporting.

They're scared S-less.

Crapless let's call it the threat of political violence informing Trump's grip on Congress with the president smashing norm after norm Even lawmakers within his party have feared for their personal safety And at least one is told confidence that it has swayed his decision-making wait what I mean If you're a member of a political party and you're scared of your constituents, maybe you should not be a member of that political party I'm

just

saying according to one source again

this is Vanity Fair reporting this, according to one source with direct knowledge of events, North Carolina Senator Tom Tillis told people the FBI warned him about credible death threats when he was considering voting against Pete Hage's death nomination for defense secretary.

I'm thinking, so I go across a couple of them.

Number one, if that's true, oh my God, I mean, really, absolutely.

That's crazy.

That is out there.

But now I think about what Senator from Wisconsin Ron Johnson said one time when he was informed by the FBI that he was parroting Russian propaganda and talking points.

He thought he was getting set up by the FBI.

Now, if I'm gonna take the Ron Johnson view of this, is it possible?

Is it probable?

Is it likely that...

There was no death threat, but Trump uses FBI to go tell Tom Tillis that there was, because they needed his vote.

I think the future FBI may well do that.

We're not certain.

Right now, again, I don't think that Cash Patel has brought his family pictures into his office quite yet, but tomorrow morning he'll be

there, right?

I

still have enough confidence right now, even though there have been resignations and other departures from the FBI, that there are enough mainline, kind of high-level...

people there at the J. Edgar Hoover building who have once again the legitimate assignment to keep people safe.

And if you do, remember Christopher Wray, the former director, talked about this a lot.

The threat to America being a domestic threat, right, and our own people threatening each other, threatening federal judges.

My sense is right now, if someone came to Tom Tillis from the FBI, again, the non-Cash Patel FBI and said, Senator, we have some legitimate and they're not going to go public with this.

We've got to make this a confidential briefing.

We've got credible reasons to believe that your life may be in danger.

We're going to probably even protect you somewhat.

As this goes forward, that it would put some stock in the Ron Johnson piece.

Again, the FBI has a legitimate interest in letting him know that what he's advocating here or what he's articulating the public domain is pulled right out of Putin's playbook, right?

And what Ron Johnson says, rather than embracing that, oh gosh, I guess that's not a good thing, he then turns it around.

And then that's when it does become made up.

My point here is just that

under the FBI that I knew, under all administrations, Republican, Democratic, they would do this apolitically and tell a Democrat, tell a Republican, if indeed they're legitimate threats, question, question, will Kash Patel continue to do that?

I certainly hope so, but time will tell.

Once again, that's another reason why Paul's got to continue to monitor all this.

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Uh, Senator Ron Johnson and articulate are not two words I use in the sentence at the same time.

Eight, five, five, seven, five, Civic Dynamo Dave calling from Duluth, Minnesota.

Welcome, Dave.

What do you got for us?

Thanks.

Thanks for taking my call.

It was wondering, uh, you and your fine listeners recall back, uh,

Then it was Charlie 26 when Trump was telling a group of Christians at the turning point action conference in West Palm Beach, Florida quote In four years you don't have to vote again Have to vote and I was wondering if that relates back to what you guys saying in regards to federal elections

So among the agencies, as we said, that are in this executive order from 48 hours ago, that consolidate power.

And again, you can't overstate the significance of it.

It's ridiculous.

It is craziness.

And yet, there it is.

It's by the President of the United States of America, drawing inside his ambit, the Federal Trade Commission, Federal Communications Commission, which is the one that Dom's afraid of now, right?

The National Labor Relations Board, right?

The Securities and Exchange Commission.

Oh, yeah, I gotta get that

money.

The Federal Reserve.

Right?

All these things that have dramatic impacts upon the way in which we live.

If this president executes not only this executive order, but then works under this theory and nobody pushes back.

And even though these people challenged, if in the end the Supreme Court says, yeah, you can do this, Donald Trump.

That's when I think you're concerned about what happens in 2028 is a whole lot more realistic because you've consolidated all the executive power.

You've got the United States Senate.

plainly cowed by what you're doing here at least the the present majority here

at some point though Jim aren't they're gonna have to go back to you know they're gonna have to get elected again you know and certainly the senators have longer terms obviously but you know there will be consequence to these actions and if it's beyond it's called the the pilfering and the corruption but real you know downwind consequence to these actions you know they're gonna have to come back and push back simply for their own political survival now the question I have is an at what point

does does the mega senator or congressman you know balance their their political survival versus their actual survival i mean if you are literally physically scared asless as vanity fair is reporting and the republicans are scared to death of mega they're scared of their voters their constituents they're scared of the trump supporters well where are we man they're gonna get rolled over

right where where is where is your ethical a lodestone there it doesn't exist anymore it's nowhere to be found

i got plenty

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wrapping up kind of the cash Patel situation here now, the new head of the FBI.

Well, he'll be, I'm sure very happy to learn that the Oath Keepers ex-leader convicted of sedition wants to work for the FBI.

Oh yeah.

Albert Stewart Rhodes, the third founder and former leader of the Oath Keepers.

told reporters at CPAC he would enjoy working for the FBI or for director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabber.

Rhodes was sentenced to 18 years in prison after being convicted of sedition after the January 6 insurrection, but of course was pardoned.

It was all a political witch hunt, Jim, but you know.

only the finest applications for the FBI going forward.

There you go.

And quite literally, once again, the inmates have taken over, right?

Yeah.

Right?

And we don't even have to draw a line from one to the next.

That is happening now.

Literally.

Literally, right?

And this is a man, once again, who wanted to overthrow the government, not just on January 6th, but even before that, he is a violent person.

There is absolutely, positively no way.

under any circumstance that he would pass a background check.

So that means he'll be joining the FBI

soon.

Apparently so.

Apparently so.

Background check.

We don't

do that.

We're efficient.

If you do a background check to slow things down, you're going to slow down with that government bureaucracy by doing a background

check.

Apparently there's a thing called the Department of Government Efficiency, and it's out there.

And presumably once again, if that should happen in any way, all these things, we're not just drop kicking.

regular rules, we're threatening our national security.

It's nothing short of that.

If someone like Stuart Rhodes can get access, if someone like Elon Musk can get access to all this social security information, treasury information, IRS information, if somehow in some way Stuart Rhodes and others get into the FBI,

We need to begin to think we'll talk to our local law enforcement about providing protection that the FBI will no longer be providing to us and they do a huge number of things preventive law enforcement on a regular basis They intercede to stop things from happening.

Will that be a part of the mission?

They do a community outreach to talk to to elderly people about scams out there is the I'm told that's being stopped all kinds of things that are beyond the core work to see us to stop the bank robbers and the human traffickers and the

methamphetamine lab purveyors, those kinds of things, huge numbers of things that we do not see in a regular basis that keep us more safe and more secure.

Stuart Rhodes is not on that plan.

I mean, but if cash Patel, you know, I mean, it's his call, right?

We'll see.

We'll see folks.

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Our buddy cam from Appleton miles dump and grounds.

Welcome cam.

What do you got for us?

Oh boy.

Thanks for taking my call.

Uh, where to start?

Cash potato looks like, uh, you know what stare that he has?

He looks laser locked on the nearest woman that's in her menstrual cycle, uh, in his vicinity.

Um, for,

uh, I get that.

I get that.

I didn't quite get it, but please continue.

I don't think I need to hear anymore.

Go ahead, Cam.

That's okay.

That's okay.

Um,

Folks don't understand what they're doing for letting go the federal employees.

They're using a clause in their contracts because they first are gutting the probationary employees, the ones that had just started.

They're going under the clause that it's for performance reasons.

And then they're also extending that to people that aren't even in their probationary periods anymore, even some people that have got or received many awards.

I need to extend to people like CJ that exist out there.

God forbid that they exist.

Would you let a 20-year-old tell you how to run your business?

Would you let a 19-year-old named Big Balls?

tell you how to sell homes or rent homes out CJ, CJ, ask yourself those very easy questions or just divert and start talking about Biden or whatever you want to complain about because you can't focus on anything in the future.

Cause you'll never be happy.

Well, yeah, there, there's a lot of that out there.

Cam.

Thank you for, for your calling your thoughts.

And I think a lot of folks won't really appreciate the,

enormity of what might happen until it affects them.

And I've been seeing some articles recently, Cam and Jim and Jess.

about, you know, some, some, you know, Omega, who, you know, voted for Trump as a veteran and at this place or that place.

And all of a sudden they got the

leather out.

They literally do not have the support, sometimes a physical sport.

Um, the agriculture department, right?

Our, our farmers out there who depend centrally upon that partner agriculture, not only for subsidies and monies, but also basic programming.

You get rid of those people.

There's nobody is on the other end of the phone.

And yes, maybe eventually you're going to put some loyalists in those positions who once again,

do not know how the Department of Agriculture works.

The reason why all of these firings are also catastrophic for the individuals who are losing their jobs, but also you're losing a huge amount of experience and expertise.

Institutional knowledge.

Absolutely.

And when you lose that.

Of how to

work at home for free

without

working.

Right.

I mean, that's what they're saying.

You know, you work in, and the whole, I mean, come on, you gotta, today's technology, you gotta go to the office.

Is that a thing?

You can't do your work remotely.

I think they're just sitting home watching Netflix all day long.

Right,

right.

And it's absurd.

In my own sense, having worked inside the federal government, and actually I worked in Capitol Hill many, many years ago, and in the White House for a very, very period of time as well, the great majority of people are there because they want to serve their nation.

and they do it with varying levels of expertise, but that expertise is all premised upon how long you've been there.

You know how, and I don't mean this in a bad sense, how the systems work and you can make those systems work to the benefit of your constituents.

People coming in after all this expertise is shown the door.

Our government begins to fall apart.

And when you go to your local social security office and say, you know what, I've got a concern about the benefits that I'm getting and nobody is there or you've got to travel to Chicago or to Cleveland to find somebody to talk to.

You better be calling your congressman and your senator

and lighten them up.

It's almost

like the short-term gain, if there is to be any, would be lost by the long-term lack of efficiency when you got people that cannot or do not have the capabilities to properly and efficiently.

do the same job that perhaps someone who's been there for 20, 30 years could do.

And for those residents, those citizens who are dependent upon social security checks for their livelihoods, heaven forbid that at some point we have health concerns or worse among that population as well, because literally their monies are not being sent into their accounts.

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85575 Civic Jeannie from Eau Claire.

You are next.

Welcome Jeannie.

What do you got for us today?

Hi you guys.

First of all, I strongly recommend Saturday mornings.

I can't wait.

Anyway, this is still troubling to me because in all honesty, we've seen attempts in our area, in the Eau Claire area, of a unor oil takeover.

It was a hostile takeover, but they brought it up.

However, this reminds me of a hostile takeover.

You're not going in to fix the problem.

You're not getting ideas of people who know the business.

You're just firing everybody.

And then what they would do is take retirement funds.

They'd run the business to the ground.

take the retirement funds and then leave the people.

And this is just a reminder.

It's just kind of a scary thing, you know, the way that they're going after our government like this and totally gutting and starving and going everywhere.

Everything that the people depend on.

So that's just my personal biased opinion.

And I'm happy about it.

About you guys, Civic Media and all of you for doing such a great job keeping people educated.

and have a great evening.

And I look forward to Saturday morning.

Thanks so much.

Call in

as well.

And we can talk more on Saturday.

Thank you for the call, Jeannie.

Appreciate your input as always.

I mean, a hostile takeover they were voted in, you know, uh, unfortunately, and Trump said he was going to do some of these things.

I don't know that, you know, 76 or whatever executive orders is, is a

Wonderful thing.

I mean, I think if you think you've had to have a mandate to have your Congress behind you, you have your party behind it, you need to go through the legislative process.

We are working on a budget right now.

The government could be shut down in the next six weeks.

We haven't gotten there yet.

I mean, because this is all just, this is just 30 days in, man.

There are going to be some real deadlines that are going to have to be met.

There's going to be some real consequence if those deadlines are not met.

This is all

just noise right now.

It is.

And again, as we said before, it's one thing for the president to sign a piece of paper on Tuesday.

It may well be that it's going to be six Tuesdays down the road before the impact of that really happens.

And to Jeannie's point, it appears more and more with each passing day, more and more polling indicating that the American people

Have some buyers or most or at least least almost half of the American population that voted for him looking at him and saying this is not This is not what we intended if we even talked about Ukraine But that

he is

off the charts on that when he is

pointing

up to to Putin right the Americans are not supporting that and Donald Trump is a product of the media right NBC and others you wonder if at some point he Again, I would like to think that at some point he would say

you

know what we've got him

You've

got to try to address those bad

numbers.

I'm tanking here very badly.

But he will plainly just lie about that and move on.

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Margaret from Cottage Grove, you are next.

Welcome, Margaret.

What do you got for us?

Well, it occurs to me, and this is probably more directed at Jim.

What kind of moron fires FBI agents?

and CIA agents and think that there's going to be no retribution at all.

I'm thinking these people that have been fired or are going to be fired might be upset.

Just

a thought.

Absolutely, Margaret.

And again, there is no good news here, but the small glimmer of hope is for them, for those people who are now being illegally fired.

As a previous caller said, yeah, the probationary employees, maybe you can get rid of them without showing some performance issue.

But these others who've been there for a long time, the CIA folks and the FBI folks who you were just talking about, Margaret,

And coming to them after five, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30 years and saying, you've got performance problems and they can come forward to what's called the MSPB, the Merit Systems Protection Board, and challenge this and talk about putting a burden upon that agency now and what hundreds, maybe thousands of employees who've been there for a long period of time are now appealing through this administrative process, either to get their jobs back, which they may not want, or to get what?

compensation for the damages they have suffered by not being in employment situations, for the pain and suffering they've suffered, that's also a part of this process.

And yes, they can also appeal that to the federal district court if they're unsatisfied with that.

The consequences here are so broad, exactly, Margaret.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

Tom from Jackson, you are next.

Welcome, Tom.

What are your thoughts?

Well, if it's something good.

My phone says Monday's 42, Tuesday's 42, Wednesday's 41.

It's warming up in Wisco, baby.

That's a good thing.

And, and I think that, um, I think some on the right are finally starting to see that, um, there's something big happening and they need to open their eyes.

I think that's good.

Right on, man.

We appreciate it, Tom.

Thank you so much.

855-752-4842-855-75 civic.

We only got a minute left in the segment, Jim, but he did mention Ukraine and Trump and his foreign

policy and

that what I don't hear it again.

Consider the source Trump calling Zelensky the president though of Ukraine a dictator, right?

He's

not

having elections and

by the way

you brought this war upon

your own nation

Yes, this

is all your fault

and it's certainly you know contradicting the Republicans and in the Senate and in the

Congress a guy named Mike Pence going public today saying you know no Mr. President It was and a war of aggression brought on by Vladimir Putin.

You've got it wrong.

Mr. President.

That's his former vice president saying that

Well, hang my pants.

Right,

right.

That's exactly the first thing.

You think Trump

gives

a damn

about what hang my pants had to say?

Hey, folks, come back with us one final say, but tell us something good when I end the day on a positive note with a cherry on top, maybe a little whipped cream, whipped cream, 855-752-4842 more with just PS and James Santel on the other side.

And welcome back to the Dom Salvia Show, our last segment of the day.

If you got something to say...

and something good to share, 855-752-4842.

Tell us something good, 855-75 Civic.

Jess, let's start with you, since this was your bright idea.

Why do you make it sound like it was such a bad idea?

It's a great idea.

I love this spectacular.

It is a

great idea.

It just makes me work hard.

I gotta come up with something good.

I'm such a negative Nancy all the time.

So, Jess.

It's good exercise for

you.

Yeah, tell me what's good for

me.

It's part of my

job.

I'll tell you what's good for me.

Something good.

Yes.

This isn't necessarily bright and cheerful and happy, but this is just good.

Okay.

I've been rewatching the West Wing.

And last night I got to the season two finale, which if anyone who is familiar with this show, the season finales of this, they're always very big, very dramatic.

And this

There's a very dramatic death that occurs in a reckoning with it and the acting of it, the production of it is just incredibly done.

It is so deeply artistic and so emotional that you cannot help feeling things and processing through some things that you're feeling while watching it.

So I watched it last night.

I had a

really good cry from it.

So, you know, I always kind of bust your chops because I reference things that you haven't seen yet.

I

have

not watched West Wing, so you

would

recommend.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

Big fan of Aaron Sorkin, who's the author of that and NBC producing that.

And it also, if I can just follow up on just good thought there.

And to make this not darker, but the importance of the arts, right?

And conveying those kinds of things.

We've got creative

people in

this nation who can change the ways in which we think and move ourselves to not only emotions, but also good intellectual things.

And my president is now the head of the chairman of the board or in charge of the Kennedy Center, where they're canceling performances right now.

Yeah, they got rid of those gay dancers.

Exactly.

I can't have that, yeah.

And

so we can't have the arts anymore.

And again, it's the juxtaposition of those two amazing things, West Wing, Aaron Sorkin, Jeff Bartlett, our fictitious president for all those years, right?

Oh,

man.

And now we

have a real president who is just the polar opposite, right?

All right, Jimmy got something good.

I do.

We talked a lot of today along with your colors.

You're one real Jean Margaret Paul mark everybody Tom about all up

All of these federal workers and contractors who are losing their jobs So if you happen to be in the Washington DC area and you're fun suddenly finding yourself in the receiving end of a pink slip You should know that there are all sorts of corporations and companies there who are paying it forward So for example, there's a flower shop in Alexandria It's offering free bouquets for any recently laid-off federal employees and contractors you go forward you identify the date of your furlough and what happened to you It's called the right proper brewing company if you want to buy a federal worker

for a beer, Jess.

The Shaw Brew Pub has a paid forward program allowing customers to just let you buy a beer for $8 through an online program called Executive Order Me a Beer,

okay?

Nice, right?

You've got the DC-based Choir.

The 13th Choir is offering two free tickets for its upcoming performance to the field of stars for any federal workers who've been laid off recently.

Lyman's Tavern, once again, hosting a happy hour on fundraiser.

federal workers alongside the federal unionist network on February 21st.

That's tomorrow.

All kinds of good

things

on

behalf of federal employees finding themselves out of a job inappropriately illegally today in our nation's capital.

Well Ron, James Santel, I appreciate that.

Tell us something good.

Well Mary, she texted in.

I am a new grandma.

Amelia Joan was born yesterday.

Congratulations, Mary.

Congratulations.

That's fantastic.

Hope mommy and the baby doing well.

Tom from Madison.

He's got something good.

You know how to play the game.

855-7524842.

Tom, welcome.

What do you got?

Hey guys, I'm working with a group called Fermat's Last Theater Company and they

doing a play that I'm performing at Muso Madison, the new music space on Winnebago, called Joe Hill Alive is You and Me.

If you want to hear about the labor movement back in 1910, 1915, it's Muso Madison, 2040, Winnebago.

It's free, though donations are accepted, and we handle all those really scary terms like anarchy and communism and socialism.

And I think you'd really like

it.

Tom, you're on stage.

What part do you play?

Everything.

Everything, okay.

I do the songs and I gotta tell you, I didn't, when I first got approached to do this, I didn't know anything about Joe Hill except that Joan Baez sung about him at Woodstock.

And when you take the deep dive into the IWW and, you know, the back in the day when corporations had armies and there were massacres of

coal miners and things that, you know, might be creeping into our national history again today.

Couldn't be a better time to see it.

Right on, Tom.

Thank you so much.

Appreciate you sharing folks.

Go check it out.

It's free, but it do take donations.

855-752-4842.

I want to share just a little bit since we're running out of time.

J.B.

Pritzker, governor of Illinois, did his state of the state yesterday.

A couple of paragraphs I want to share with you right now.

There are people in my own party who think that if you just give Donald Trump everything he wants, he'll make an exception and spare you some of the harm.

I'll ignore the moral abdication of that position for just a second to say.

Almost none of those people have the experience with this president that I do.

I would swallow my pride to offer him what he values most, public praise and the Sunday news shows in return for ventilators and masks in the worst pandemic.

We made a deal.

Turns out his promises was broken as the biped machines he sent us instead of the ventilators.

He concludes Pritzker.

tyranny requires your fear and your silence and your compliance.

Democracy requires your courage.

So gather your justice and humanity and do not let the tragic spirit of despair overcome us when our country needs us the most.

Folks, this is the Dom Savage Show.

Thank you, James Santel, former U.S.

Attorney Checkers show out on Saturdays 9 to 11.

Thank you, Jess P.S.

Folks, stick around.

Beach Wabba Nightlight coming up next.

Have a great night.

We'll see you tomorrow.