Welcome everyone to WFHR's Directors Cut.
We are here to have some fun today and get into session number 53.
Our host and program director here is James J.
Mailoff with my partner in our head of production, Seth Habhager.
Well, good evening everyone.
Thanks for joining us once again and we are continuing our civic series tonight.
Yeah, with this show, we continue not only the civic series,
but give you an idea of a mind that I wanted to get you our different civic media family members out there
and get you to get to know them a little bit better.
So with that, we asked the best listeners in radio to welcome to the WFHR stage.
Civic Media Zone, the incredibly talented anchor host.
You hear her do slice of Wisconsin segments during our breaks,
a true Renaissance woman and one of the greatest voices in radio.
Just by opinion, our friend Terry Barr joins us.
Terry, how are you?
Wow, you guys, now I have to live up to all of that.
Yeah.
Set the bar high, Terry.
Yeah, we set the bar high at all here.
No, no, Terry, it's great to be here with you and all of your wonderful listeners today.
We get to hear this voice for the next half an hour, Seth.
That's awesome.
Terry, I appreciate you taking the time, joining us and everything.
And one of the ways I like to start things off is asking people their origin story.
Can you tell us a little bit about where you're from and your early days?
I would love to.
You know, as a kid, I grew up on a dairy farm just outside of Green Bay.
And I'm so proud to say that I am a daughter of a former dairy farmer.
I think that's such an important thing in Wisconsin and it's something to be proud of.
The good thing about growing up on a dairy farm, both of my parents were very, very active
in our community and in the state, things like farm bureau and other activities that would
take them all over the country.
So seeing them do that made me want to do that.
And I just am forever grateful that my parents said.
And especially to a girl on a dairy farm that I could be or do whatever I wanted.
And what I wanted to do since I was a little kid, it was go into radio and TV.
Yeah.
So my very first radio job was when I was still in high school and I worked at a little
Sean O. Wisconsin radio station.
It was an AM at the time.
And before we knew what news talk was, that's what the Sean O. radio station was.
So that's kind of where this all began.
Wow.
Nice.
That is really, really interesting.
When it comes to your parents in those early days and growing up on a dairy farm, certainly
with the early hours and the work ethic that it has to be to do something like that,
did you feel you organically took in some of that work ethic and applied that to all many
things that you have done in your life?
Oh, absolutely.
I remember the call to why haven't you fed the calves?
Yes.
But it was also get that job done and then you can go do all these other things you want
to do.
And I was so lucky.
And sometimes you think kids on a dairy farm, that's all they do.
But again, my parents were so supportive of myself and my two brothers.
We were all in sports.
We were all in band.
We were all, you know, I was a cheerleader.
We all did extra curricular activities and we all did okay in school, but I think as
you said, it goes back to that whole idea of having to be responsible by the time you
can walk.
You're in the barn or you're somewhere helping with all the things that your parents have
to do.
Terry, one of the things too that I think stands out with this and this happens.
I would say with almost every guess we've had on this show or some of the other shows
we do around here when I ask people that origin question, it so often comes back to the
parents being supportive.
I like to say encouragement, support, cost, nothing can mean everything.
And while for myself growing up, I didn't have hardly anything.
I always had my mom and dad.
And while I had an athlete for a father and a man who just loves and eats and breathes,
leaves love sports and one of his son to be an athlete and all these things, I'm seven
years old and I tell him I want to be an actor.
And the first thing he says to me is, Jimmy, okay, but be the best.
You want to do it, that's fine, but be the best at it.
And has supported me ever since.
And I can't imagine that it wasn't necessarily easy for his seven-year-old to come up to him
and say I'd rather play a boxer than be a boxer, right?
This is not our story, sets are so very similar when it comes to where we all come from
different areas and walks of life.
This similarity continues where parents being supportive of their kids.
It's a nice no to all moms and dads out there and all you parents, that's one thing that
never gets out of style.
That's right.
And still works.
When it came to getting into radio, you mentioned that early job.
How did that happen?
I just stopped in and said, do you need somebody to come and help you this summer?
Wow.
You know, small local radio, that's where it was at.
And I think because this radio station, very much like all of you, are so involved in
the community and I saw that and I really took that to heart at a young age watching
my parents as well be involved and seeing the radio station involved and I thought, you
know, if this is something I want to do, I'm just going to ask if they need some help
during the summertime and see what happens and they said, yes, and that's when I found
my love for not just being in radio, but I found my love for news and wanting to make
a difference in that aspect.
When it comes to whether it's radio or any other walks of life, who do you consider some
of your early or some of your bigger influences?
Oh, wow.
That's a really good question.
Probably for me, it goes back to somebody like a Joan London and of course Jane Pauley
is still on on CBS Sunday morning.
And you know, just the way these women would tell stories, I just, I probably did take
a page out of their books because I wanted to be a storyteller, but I wanted it again
to make it mean something to the listeners.
Maybe it's fun, maybe it's serious, but at the end you hope you made a difference with
it, whether you made them laugh or cry or make them want to step out and help somebody
out.
Joan London doesn't get enough flowers as she was so good at that job and a great talker,
great interviewer, great way, especially I remember her a lot doing Good Morning America
and some of the work there.
It's a great name to bring up.
One name that I went back when I first started doing Midday magazine and I'm not a traditional
interviewer and wanted to really learn and try to get better at the craft in a quick
amount of time.
I went back and listened to a couple of people that I really enjoy and I've been around,
but I went down a rabbit hole on Barbara Walters and just went and looked, watched a lot
of her interviews and I was watching them just basically to see how she constructed her
questions and stuff.
But what I found watching her was learning, man, you can ask the simplest question, but
the great questions that she would have are always these follow-up questions and how important
that is.
Some of these great artists I consider them at interviewing really helped shape so many
of us going forward in how we would do this game and how we would do these.
That's really cool to hear those names, so we don't get to hear those names nearly
enough.
Those are great influences.
Those are great ones.
Yeah, and everybody always said, listen, stop and listen, don't, you know, if you have
questions written down, that's great.
Maybe even a simple outline, but don't keep looking at your outline and your questions
so you're ready for the next one.
Look at the person and listen to that person and let it breathe because sometimes you
get the best stuff when you're talking to someone and the other person stops talking.
You know, it's one of those moments and there have been some of those where I just sat
there and looked at the other person and they just looked at me and then started saying
all the things that I was wishing they would say, all of a sudden there it was because
I didn't open my mouth again so quickly.
Very nice.
It's one of the coolest things that happened in the interview.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's such great points.
We're speaking with Terry Barr, Civic Media's own and Terry, I mentioned earlier that the
slice of Wisconsin segments a lot of people have heard and really enjoy, have heard many
good things from our listeners about that over the last couple of years.
You would do other things here at Civic Media as well.
We only have a half an hour just keep in mind, but can we tell the audience some of the
other jobs and the other things that you do here, not only at Civic, but just in general?
Oh my goodness.
I also write a lot for the website.
So if people are looking for information, if they're looking for some fun stories, you'll
also find those slice of Wisconsin stories on the Civic Media website, which is civicmedia.us.
I write commercials, I write promotions.
I feel like I am just a person and I feel very, very fortunate for this that if somebody can't
get it done or need some assistance or is just like here, you do this, that somebody
can lean on me to do that.
And I think it comes from, after I started in TV, I went to college for radio TV film and
I minored in journalism and political science.
And I think once I moved from radio to TV, I found that the ability to wear a lot of
different hats took you a lot of places and I think that has always been a really good
thing to remember that it is a plus, it's not a minus if you can wear lots of hats.
I want to say real quick that for everyone there that was there when we did the switch
over, two years ago, August 1st, after Civic Media purchased WFHR, one of the first voices
you heard was probably Terry Barz, because she did the initial run of the new promos that
we were doing.
You're listening WFHR, locally grown radio and everything.
So Terry has been here since the very beginning of our tenure with Civic Media, which means
for those who've known there's been quite a bit of turnover, it's a new company, that
kind of thing.
But Terry's been here since the beginning, so it's nice to have that continuity.
Yeah.
Well, thank you and it has been such a pleasure to work with all of you.
Wisconsin Rapids and the area are very, very fortunate to have people like you in the
community.
Appreciate it, Terry.
We can't handle compliments around here, so we're just going to move on.
One of the things that you noted, I think that is really cool about not only what you
do, but what we do here at Civic Media, and actually it goes back to something I told
Seth day one, when he first started interning with us, you know, you're good at this, get
good at this too, and this too, and this too, and make it so you're inval, you're so valuable
and indispensable.
Yeah, indispensable in all that, and it's a great note to, I think, younger people out
there, whether they're getting into this medium or any medium, that make yourself invaluable.
You know, that's one of the greatest things you can do, and wearing a lot of hats can also
keep the job to be very fresh and interesting.
Exactly.
There's a lot of advantages to it.
Speaking of advantages to things, Terry, my daughter is a different, but let the same
time very similar to you, and just very early in her stages, she's 27, she is a freelance
creative.
She really is out there doing many different things and doesn't really have necessarily
an overall boss.
She has a little more freedom to her career with that, but also some insecurity with some
things and some fears with some things for you, do you, for one, still consider yourself
in our still a freelance creative, because I don't want to just assign that to you, but it
does seem like you are, and how have you enjoyed that?
What are the pluses and the negatives to that, or just the pluses, if you want?
Yeah, there are definitely pluses.
It allows me to do some of the other things that I really do enjoy that maybe I don't
do at civic media.
I love social media, and I do work with a couple of musicians and help them create their
social media.
And again, because I'm working with musicians, I'm working with other creatives, we're
having fun with that.
We do videos, and we do other kinds of non-traditional posting, where if I did that with civic media,
we would be a little more on the news politics side.
So I like getting away and doing the creative thing.
I write for other people, I can even go straight, I've done some ghost writing as a speech
writer, or a commentary, or an editorial, and nobody knew I did it, but because your name
isn't on it, but if you can step up and do those kinds of things, I would certainly encourage
your daughter to do that.
And it does.
There can be days where you kind of go, oh, what am I doing?
But I have had fewer of those kinds of days than glorious days, where you just feel like,
yep, I found my spot, and this just feels really good.
You mentioned acting, our ears perked up at that, of course, because you were talking
to two fellow actors right here.
Have you gotten to do anything recently, do you have anything coming up?
Wow, that's an interesting question.
Yes, recently I was in a zombie comedy movie.
I may have cheated on this one, Terry, I may have looked at your social media, I may have
you.
Oh, you stinker.
Oddly, I said, was I type cast because I played a news reporter?
Do what you know, play what you know, right?
Yeah, right.
Right.
Oh, I got to be the news reporter toward the end of the film that lets everybody know
that basically everything will be okay.
So that was really fun.
And I play piano, and all of a sudden, I am going to be playing a piano teacher in
another local film that is just getting underway.
So it's fun when you can connect some of these dots, but with the right people, too.
So you feel like you're doing something that really is worth your time.
That's so cool to hear.
Yeah.
And good on you for it.
And it also means that we have to work together.
I have to work with you.
We have to act together sometimes.
Oh boy.
We have to.
We have so much fun.
Yeah.
We have a lot of fun here at Civic Media.
We enjoy our jobs.
We love what we get to do.
Up and down to state, you'll find a Civic Media radio station.
We also take these jobs on knowing that there is a little more to the job than your normal
radio gig or certainly talk or our music where it goes.
When it comes to what it means to you to work for Civic Media, to work with Civic Media,
I should say Terry, what does it mean to you?
And I've had people ask what is Civic Media and then you tell them it's a statewide network
of local radio stations and they still kind of give you a puzzled look.
I will then often say it's taking me back to why I got into radio or TV in the beginning.
I love to talk about how stations up north that maybe had been turned off or had
been considered local in a really long time.
All of a sudden, these stations are back on their main street, they're back on the air,
they're back getting into the community.
And I just feel that in my heart that that is something so important.
Everybody wants to feel like they're part of something, but if you don't have anyone
that is talking to you about it or representing you for it, it just doesn't feel right.
So while I was at the very beginning of Civic Media and I'm watching stage while our
owner purchasing these stations all over the state and then opening the doors again,
I sat back many days and just applauded him because it feels right.
It feels like this is what radio and local TV, this is what it's supposed to be, don't
you think so?
Oh, yes.
Well said.
We are both on board for that for sure.
We went through the ringer of having a couple of different owners in a very short amount
of time.
Right.
And as somebody who's been doing this a long time myself, you know, I've been in radio
for 20 some years and I've had at least eight to nine different ownership changes I've
been a part of and everything.
You get a little bit of PTSD with this stuff of they say one thing, but they don't do it
necessarily.
We are very fortunate with Heart of Wisconsin Media that owned us beforehand.
Marcus was, you're not your typical owner didn't come from radio background.
And really when he said something, he meant it, whether he could pull it off or not,
he was going to try.
Right.
I had a lot of great intentions and great heart and we wouldn't be where we are without him.
When Civic took over, I was very on the fence because I didn't know who this company was.
I didn't know anything about them.
Nobody did.
And and certainly did my homework on Sage and immediately was very intrigued by him because
of his background and he's not coming from a radio background either.
And then you meet him and and it's hard not to immediately not only get engaged, but
get on board with what he's trying to do.
And I know no for you guys, but for me, when I came away from the first meeting as much
as the last time I talked to him just a couple days ago, I come away from talking to him
like reminding, being reminded that he doesn't have to do any of this.
Like he could, he could have sat back like, look, you know, there's another universe parallel
universe where he's sitting out of each and a why or something like that.
And he's doing this and he's investing in our state and our people because this is what
it means to him.
And if that's what it means to him, who am I or anybody else here to not get on board
and it's contagious, it really does get in your system, especially all of us, there ain't
anybody in radio that's doing this to be in the next Rockefeller that, whoa, it's that
in the old reference.
I know.
The next jobs.
How about that?
Right.
Yeah.
We do this because certainly we want to keep the lights on, but also this is a passion.
We love what we do.
Absolutely.
And I want to really quick piggyback and I wonder if you guys agree with me on this.
Sage is not one of those slick, you know, guys, hey, you know, I'm going to do this and
miss that.
I know he comes back.
He comes across as very sincere and very natural.
That's not a lot you get in radio.
My goodness, James, I'm sure both of you, actually, who've both been in radio a lot longer
than I have can talk about those kind of like slick, slicksters, you know, that say,
like James is saying, say one thing.
You and other behind your back and then you're like, what's going on here?
We have not had that with Sage.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
I totally agree.
And I could tell you and please don't laugh, but sometimes I think about my past and
I don't regret anything about what I've done on my trail to get to where I am now because
that all tells a story, but I worked at seven different TV stations and yeah, during
the TV time.
I always tried to keep a foot in radio.
So wherever I was working or living, there was still something about radio that kept pulling
me over and pulling me over.
And in the end, I'm glad I did that because that way I kept up with the changes and yeah,
you get to know the people you're talking about that are slick that maybe you don't want
to work with.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You learn a lot along the path.
That is for sure.
And you guys and Sage and everyone at Civic Media, I just feel so fortunate to work with
all of you.
Just when I thought I was out, they pulled me back in, it's just a radio, man.
That's that's radio.
Is that just that?
As we're getting ready to wrap up here, I did have just a couple more questions.
I have not done a good job as an interviewer really covering your career in my defense.
It's gigantic and you have accomplished so much.
You have gotten a chance and I've gone, I mentioned Barbara Walters, some interviewers I've gone
back and listened to.
You are one of those people, Terry.
I've gone and listened to some of your past interviews that I could find.
I really appreciate the, it's so cool to hear that you were interested in being a storyteller
because I feel like as an interviewer, you're even able to do that.
What are some of the, you know, your favorite moments, your favorite interviews that you
have had over the years?
Oh my goodness.
One, that it still stands out because growing up a Green Bay Packers fan and then working
in television in Green Bay back in the 90s when the Packers finally got back to the Super
Bowl and we had just become the local Fox TV station and everybody was like, what is
a Fox TV station?
There wasn't even, we didn't have a national Fox brand then.
Yeah, so we were doing hours and hours and hours of news and then just some other programs
but we had the Packers and that was huge and we traveled with them.
We covered every game.
We did hours before the game, hours after the game, interviewed anybody and everybody we
could grab.
And it often included the players after the game and I have to say those were some of
the best days because in the end the nationals were not around, the ESPN's were not coming
around.
It was all once again, oops, you have to depend on the local folks and it was wonderful.
Yeah, it was wonderful.
Yeah.
Terry, we appreciate the time so very much.
This has been a blast.
I do think that you did too good.
You're going to have to come back.
We're going to have to do a part two of these because there's just so much else I want
to get into with some of the other more questions but we do have one final question for you
in it.
It may be the most tough one, the hard ball question, the hardest.
If you could have coffee with any historical figure, who and why?
Oh, wow.
I told you.
I tried to watch.
Same reaction.
Yeah.
The tough one.
It's tough.
Yeah.
Oh, see, I should have, and I know we never give questions ahead of time but I should
have said, what questions are you going to do?
I know we don't like to do that.
Is it fair if I say I want to sit down with all of the members of the band, Kiff?
Oh, my gosh.
That's awesome.
That is.
That is.
Yeah.
There is no wrong answer but you may have come up with the perfect one.
That's a great answer.
Oh, that's a fun answer.
Thank you.
That's a fun, fun answer.
I have enjoyed them since I was a little kid, got to go to the final concert in New York
City at Madison Square Garden and it's just something I'll never forget.
So the music just takes you places and makes you remember things and there's just something
about that.
I would love to say some news figures but I'm going to stick with the fun side of this
fun.
Let's go go.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I got to see actually my first real big concert or true concert was seen Kiss in 96, 97 over
at the Cole Center and I went into it.
I went because my best friend, one of my best friends is a diehard Kiss fan as a Kiss
Army tattoo, justice up as Gene Simmons every year for Halloween, a big kiss guy.
I went to go with him so he didn't have to go by himself and all this and I thought
it'd be kind of cool as an entertainer, as an actor, I like dissecting this stuff.
If I wasn't a big kiss guy beforehand, I was after.
I don't know how you can't be.
They are a perfect balance of a theater, of music, of a circus, it is so amazing and
how they've been doing it for as long as they have and had done, I should say, is so
impressive.
A great choice is great choices, right?
Excellent.
Terry, you described it perfect.
There you go.
It was perfectly described, yes.
A follow-up question to that one.
If you were a member of Kiss, do you have an animal you would be, do you have a make-up
or anything you'd be?
They got a couple animals already covered.
That one's animal.
I think that's too hard, man.
It's too tough.
That's too tough.
I would say cat, but the cat man's already been a parent.
Yeah, Peter Chris.
There you go.
Yeah.
It wasn't a fair question.
Yeah.
It wasn't a fair question.
It was a fun one.
No.
You're the best, Terry.
We appreciate you so much.
We're looking forward to hearing your voice on our stations, I should say, going forward
more and more.
And again, you're going to have to come back because this was a lot of fun.
This was wonderful and thank you so much for asking me and thank you to all the listeners
for listening.
Oh, and don't forget to catch her on Max and Gradio as well on Saturdays because Terry's
there as well.
I almost forgot to mention that.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah.
Oh, thank you for that mention.
Yeah, we are live from six to 10 and then we just play great music from 10 to midnight.
But we have a live day and in studio at nine o'clock every Saturday night.
Yeah.
So jealous of that.
I love that.
Keep that alive.
Keep that in the radio.
Great work, Terry.
Thank you so much for joining us.
We'll talk again real soon.
Okay.
Thank you.
We'll be back with more directors cut here in 97 5 FM 13 20 AM WF HR locally grown radio.
Welcome back everyone to directors cut here at WF HR 97 5 FM 13 20 AM Seth and James
here with you want to say a big thank you to Terry bar for joining us.
That was awesome.
She's great.
She's got to talk to her for a long, long time.
We actually have about seven to 10 hours of extra interview footage that we just weren't
able to use.
We had to cut it out.
We've got several episodes in the can.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But as we wanted to kind of wrap up the show here, we wanted to have do that in a fun
way.
I do want to remind everybody that we will be continuing the civic series.
After next week, we actually have an interview set up with our own Brittany more low.
We're going to be talking with Brittany and getting to know her a little bit more.
Other civic media family members will be joining us and our own because after this, we're
going to be kicking off our local civic series here.
We're going to talk to Melissa and Seth.
We're going to talk to Laura and Tim and we're going to talk to Pam and Chuck.
I cannot wait for all these interviews.
Man, that's all good too.
And James, of course, because we don't know enough about James.
Yeah.
You never hear me talk about myself or anything.
So God, how else will anybody know how else will we know I'm doing my homework, my back.
I'm going to find some interesting facts about all these people.
I'm going to we're going to get to know them a little bit better and most importantly,
I will.
Yeah.
The most important thing.
But one of the things that we wanted to do with this wrapping up the show was coming
up.
We get these topics that we just never get a chance to talk about.
Right.
It was a fun for us, the audience, and interesting and movieweb.com put together a list of actors
who have been in the most movies.
Okay.
And I've never really thought much about this.
This was a topic that up until I got this article and I got this article, being honest
with the audience, almost a year ago, I've had this and did I've been sitting on that
we just never had really the time to get into or anything, no time like the present.
But since then, I've thought more and more about this.
And certainly there is, I think it's noteworthy to say that when it comes to actors, there is
no 401k.
There is no retirement plan for actors.
So being able to get a big body of work doesn't just mean, oh, I'm a big actor.
I've been in a lot of movies.
It means I've had a paycheck all of this time.
I've been in the job.
Take care of my responsibilities, my family, all of this.
Actors are different and are no different at the same time than any other blue collar
worker or anybody out there.
Trying to make it check to check, trying to live, trying to survive.
And to see this list, I thought it was very noteworthy.
Now, for me, in our generation, I should say, Seth, I don't think we have seen many people
that have done what Samuel Jackson has done.
You can honestly say that Samuel Jackson has been in a movie almost every month of our
lifetime, of our older adult lives, I should say, of our adult lives.
And what I think is also really cool about this list, we're going to go through the list
with you.
We're going to give you the numbers.
Going through this list, I want you to note out there how many of these people are stars
but maybe not household names and not the names you would think of necessarily.
But we're like the superstars, right?
The names above the marquee, as I used to say, not really a thing anymore, but the ones
the first on the poster kind of thing, yeah.
And so many of these people, if not all of these people, just doing my little back reading
and stuff, all come from working class families and have that work ethic in them.
And I thought that was interesting, as noteworthy as you're not going to see Tom Cruise on this
list.
You're not going to see some of those big, big names.
You will see some, but you're not going to see necessarily some of the names that are
household names, but great, great legendary actors like at number 25, Clint Eastwood with
82.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Did not know that.
I think a lot of people out there that know that are younger and may know only Clint Eastwood
as the older man or the director, which is not even that, and even some younger people
from the 80s and stuff may think of Dirty Harry and some of those, but Clint made his bones
in spaghetti westerns and did a lot of those really early on.
In fact, was type cast early on, Dirty Harry actually helped him break type, which is fascinating,
but also created a whole nother type for him that he had to live up to.
Right.
Right.
And I think part of why he went into directing was to try to get away from some of that
stuff, not that he didn't like westerns, because he continued to make them even like
unforgiven in the 90s and stuff like that.
So no, but that's remarkable.
I think another thing about that.
We don't have to do it with every actor, but I think another fun thing is your favorite
role these actors have played.
Oh, yes.
Did it played 82 roles?
It's pretty hard.
What?
Which one do you really like?
But I would be, I have to go with my dad on this one, Fistful the Dollars and that
character he played in those three movies, those are the, the preacher, you know, some
of these.
He said some great roles.
Absolutely.
Robert DeVole comes in at number 24 with 93 roles in his career.
Wow.
Really?
Yeah.
That's a shocker to me.
Yeah.
Because I, of course, another well-known name, but wow, I didn't realize he'd been in
that many.
I never thought of that.
Never thought of it.
I actually think of him as more of a select actor and I would have gone into this conversation
saying, oh, well, he's probably not on this list.
So to see him at number 24 was interesting.
That's good to know.
And it's nice to know as we go through this list that there are some bigger names and
they're still working a lot.
Again, a lot of it's just because they got to live, man, you got to keep working.
At number 22, a tie between Anthony Hopkins and Betty Davis at 99.
Oh, my gosh, Anthony Hopkins will get over 100.
I'm guessing by the time he's done.
Well, I brought up when this list came out.
That's true.
That's right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Since then, he has moved ahead of Betty Davis.
Yeah.
Okay.
But he is still behind the great Christopher Plummer who is at 21 with 119 roles.
Wow, that's a big jump from like just over 100 to 119 Christopher Plummer, man, man,
the thing of some of the roles, you know, sound of music, I think it's probably one of
his bigger ones.
I think of Star Trek 6.
He did it.
He played a Klingon in that one.
Oh, man, absolutely great.
In some of the older roles he did, roles he did when he was an older actor and everything.
But yeah, yeah, boy, he's a, he can add a lot to a movie.
Christopher Plummer.
Very good.
Very good.
It's such a good care.
Such a good team actor.
Yes.
You know, brilliant.
At number 20, Ray Meland, 132 for Mr. Dial M for murder.
Yes.
That's probably one of his best known for the one he won an Academy Award for was The Lost
Weekend, where he plays an alcoholic for one of the first movies that really dealt with
alcoholism in a big way about that kind of thing.
And I believe, if I remember, I might be wrong and say, Billy Wilder, trick to that.
Yes.
I might be wrong on that.
But I should double check it.
Yeah.
I feel very confident about that.
I'm pretty sure you're right about that.
At number 19, a name that wasn't long ago, you and I were highlighting James Hong.
Oh, yes.
119 roles for Mr.
Hong or 133.
I'm so sorry.
133.
Don't show him.
Don't show him.
One of the greater characters.
If not, you, if somebody wants to say the greatest character actor of all time, no argument
here.
No argument.
No.
No bones about it.
Boy.
And if he is any, if you've ever seen him speak, he's, he's like as like unglamorizes acting
like anyone.
He's just like literally Mr.
want to work every day.
You know, he's just like, yeah, that's my job.
That's what I do.
All right.
Let's do it.
So many great roles over the years, especially as he got a lot of work in the 80s and everything
and a little trouble, a big trouble, a little China, and he's like that.
Have played a villain so often in his career.
He has.
It's so cool to see.
I would say almost his last like 10 roles have all been like grandfathers and like good
guys and good and it's really cool to see.
Yeah.
He deserves it.
It's such a great actor.
Maybe as hard as this is for me to say, as a Thesbian, maybe even a better person than
an actor.
That's tough.
That's tough because he's an amazing actor.
Very good.
One of my biggest influences, one of my favorite actors when I was a kid, Mr. Anthony Quinn
comes in at 18 with 145.
Oh, wow.
Man.
Of course, probably one of his signature roles, Zorba the Greek, that's probably his most iconic
role.
But again, he popped up in so many movies, man.
He was one of those guys that once he got a name, people wanted him in their movie.
Yeah.
And because of his background, his heritage, a lot of this was very, and because he did not
necessarily look, and this is for Mr. Quinn himself, not like your stereotypical Latino star.
Yeah.
It also gave him versatility back then, did not just play Latino roles.
Right.
Exactly.
Not a lot of actors had Mr. Hong as one of them that it wouldn't able to do that kind
of thing.
Anthony Quinn, also one of the more like vibrant, like why, like just energies, especially
the older he got the more you got to see the real Anthony Quinn.
Man, and he was one of those guys that could lead a movie, he could be the lead role,
or he could be a character in it.
He had so versatile, he could do it, just about anything.
I, it's because of that that I think Zorba is noteworthy, but his performance in Lawrence
of Arabia is arguably his most noteworthy performance in part because it's such a legendary
movie.
And he's such a good compliment to that movie.
I can't imagine a movie without him.
I can't.
Right.
I couldn't picture anybody else.
Yeah, exactly.
Also at 17, Michael Cain with 147.
What can you say about Michael Cain?
I mean, we could take a whole show in the middle of it.
One of the most brilliant, most versatile actors ever.
He could do comedy, he could do action, he could do drama.
The man could do anything, anything he wanted.
One of my biggest influences, one of my favorite, and he had a voice in an accent, second to
none.
Love to hear him talk.
Ernest Borden 9 at number 16 with 148, a beautiful actor, wonderful human being.
It's not counting the TV, Michael's navy, he was in as well.
Think of some of that, okay, Marty is the one he won the Oscar for, probably, I don't
know any more if it's this is most famous role, but that's what he was known for.
But playing like from here to FATSO, and from here to eternity, a pivotal role in that
movie.
I thought about that role.
Yeah.
Just a real nasty role.
You don't think of nasty when you think of Ernest Borden 9, but he plays up.
That's why I didn't think of it.
Yeah.
I'm imagining in my head Ernest Borden 9 in red.
You're like older Ernest Borden 9, the lovable, like a little, oh my God, that's such a
good mention.
How about the wild bunch?
That was what I was going to bring.
He plays just kind of a reckless, you know, wow, I mean, that's a great, that movie,
I don't know if it's so good, but I hope it does because I saw it a few years ago, man,
it's still good.
It is still a good movie.
I'm marking, yeah, I'm my bookmarks because I want to go back and watch it, I haven't
watched it too long.
We come coming up next after him, the great Donald Sutherland with 156 recently passed
yeah.
Yeah, and just I'm so thankful that when it comes to some of these actors that you and
I growing up when we did got to experience them and to a younger generation, they know
these guys as something else and got to experience Donald Sutherland from the Hunger Games, right?
Yeah.
When it comes to Christopher Plummer and some of the Lord of the Rings or some of that
stuff that he was in, these actors that get to stick around a little bit.
Even in Anthony Quinn that was in that cloud movie, a walk in the clouds with Keanu Reeves
and these stuff.
Oh yeah, yeah, right.
So I like to see that some of these actors have been able to stick around.
Absolutely.
You think about our parents, they knew Michael Cain is a one thing.
We knew Michael Cain is one thing and then a younger generation knows him as a whole other
thing.
It's really cool to think of.
Yeah.
Donald Sutherland in number 15 with 156.
At number 14, wonderful character actress Best Flowers with 165 roles.
Oh, wow.
Now that might be a name a lot of people don't know and for myself too, I don't think I'm
sure if I saw a picture of her, I'd know who she was, but I don't think I could name
anything that she's been in.
Born to be bad, a woman of Paris, sudden fear, good neighbor Sam, the opposite sex I
think is a famous one of hers too.
I don't know if you're getting a good image of her there.
But she was from the classic age that continued acting well into her late years, yeah.
Miss Flowers was considered the queen of Hollywood extras.
That was a nickname that she was given for a long time.
How about that?
That is pretty cool.
That is pretty darn cool.
I would be pretty proud of that.
That would be cool.
Yeah, me too.
Then next up at number 13, Susan Sarandon with 168.
Wow.
Really?
There's a couple of names on this list.
I would have never, you gave me a supposing guess would have never guessed that.
And I'm sure it's a lot of movie, smaller movies that, you know, probably don't have a lot
of, you know, never had a lot of publicity when they were released and all those kind
of things.
That's what I think a lot of people don't get with, especially even with bigger stars.
They're going to be doing independent films in between the big ones.
You know, maybe some script they really liked and they're not getting paid nearly as
much as they do for like the big blockbusters they're doing, maybe, you know, the minimum
that required minimum for the union kind of thing.
And it's, I mean, just think about it.
Think of that.
If you're a fan of Susan Sarandon, think of the trove of movies that you didn't even
know, maybe she was in and that you can go back and look at them.
That's one of the cool things about this.
I think Thelma Louise, Rocky Horror picture show certainly stand out, but she was in,
that's my boy with Adam Sandler and, and, and, um, um, uh, uh, uh, uh, 정부.
That's alright.
I'm like, oh, no.
I got to think of this guy.
Yeah, look it up, Adam.
Adam Sandler and Andy Sandberg.
Andy Sandberg, I couldn't think of, but yes, those two, she was in a bolder, of course.
Yes.
One of her most iconic roles.
She was recently in the movie Enchanted a while ago.
She's been all over and a lot of great TV work herself over the years.
And so it's something you forget about.
They also work in TV.
How do they have any time for any of that?
I couldn't think of the name because I was trying to think of something else real quick.
Continuing with our list at number 12, a name that we are all waiting for, Samuel L. Jackson
with 174 movie credits.
Oh, that's great.
I think, will he make 200?
I think he's probably getting closer now.
That was a, he made a little bit over.
He may have made 200 as we were talking.
That's true.
I almost guarantee he did, um, and, and while it would take a long, uh, once we get to
number one, you'll see how long of a way he has to go.
Yeah.
I don't think any of us will be shocked if he was number one on this list.
I actually thought he would have been in top five, you know, and, and, and first of all,
he doesn't look as age.
So he can play so many different roles.
And yeah, I mean, the man, again, Michael, like Michael Cain, versatile can do anything.
He can do basically anything you want him to do.
I will admit that, um, there is a little bit of selfishness in this, uh, in my, when
I'm about to say, but I do want it.
I do mean this for all of us out there, uh, all of these names, so many of these names,
the majority of the names on this list, all these people got their breaks late in life.
That's true.
And, and got a chance to really hit the ground like, I'm not going to stop.
You got me, I've often, uh, joked in my head into some people that I've told that if
I ever were to win an award, the first things out of my mouth, this is the biggest mistake
you all ever made.
Haha.
You will never get rid of me now.
That's right.
Uh, and, and that's how I felt about that break, Samuel Jackson is one of the people
I've learned this from, uh, he works every month.
He takes one month off a year to be with his wife, go on vacation, otherwise he's working
every month because he, he knows how hard it is to get to this point and he is never going
backwards.
Right.
Um, I, and you must love the work and he loves what he seems to really love the work.
And he appreciates this.
He appreciates it.
You'll never hear this guy, uh, talking about anything other than I am humbled.
I am lucky to get to do what I do.
Exactly.
Uh, also one of my favorite lines I've ever heard.
Jesus, a mirror, we're interviewing him and they asked him, Sam, every actor has to do jobs
just for the money.
Everybody has to do jobs that they may not like.
Did you ever do a job for the money without blinking an eye?
Every one of them.
Every one of them.
Like, this is my job, you know, uh, certainly there are certain jobs he took because, oh,
I, I always wanted to fight monsters or something like that or whether to be in a Marvel
movie or whatever.
Yeah.
But overall, I mean, the jobs, the job, all of them, uh, it's a great, yeah, it's a great
job.
A tie at number 10 between Jackie Chan and Mickey Rooney with 190 and that's the first
time in human history.
I believe the Jackie Chan and Mickey Rooney's names have been said together mentioned to
the same breath.
It's pretty cool.
That is cool.
Mickey Rooney, of course, was a child star.
I mean, he, he owned the box office in the thirties and then later became, you know, kind
of a famous voice guy and it wasn't lots of different movies.
But Jackie Chan.
I mean, uh, uh, all the movies he made in, in, in Hong Kong and a thing.
What a career.
What a guy.
Singular talent.
Absolutely.
Uh, and a game changer with the way he did his own stunts and some of those.
At number nine, wonderful character actor Harry Strang has 196.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, wow.
Uh, I think, uh, Mr. Smith goes to Washington, maybe his most famous, uh, but certainly the
grapes of wrath have to be mentioned.
Uh, I was in some good movies.
He, I believe he was in the original King Kong.
I'm not 100% on that.
I'm pretty sure he was.
Uh, but Sergeant York is one of my pop-a-who made a mention.
Okay.
Great performance in Sergeant York.
Yep.
Uh, continuing a very similar one, Wagon Train Star Ward Bond comes in with 200 Ward Bond,
not only, not only was he, uh, in a hundred, like you just said, the movies he was in.
He was also a very prolific radio actor at the time too, which he must not have had
time to do anything.
Oh my gosh.
He was a busy man.
I don't believe he had any personal life whatsoever, but yeah, you can't, um, if you're
a lover of the old Western TV shows and movies like me and Seth and stuff, you, you can't
not mention the Ward Bond, yeah.
Coming up at number seven, Richard Ryle with a hundred and two, two hundred and nine.
Oh geez.
Another great character actor.
It's a little lost in the shuffle with these things, but you know Richard Ryle, uh, you
know who he is.
Okay.
As soon as you see him, all a hundred, a hundred and ten poor cents, you've seen him in many
movies over the years.
I want to say I believe I saw him in a Guthrie theater production of Oh Wilderness, the
Eugene O'Neill play.
He was on, they were doing a traveling show and I saw it.
And yeah, again, I also have theater actor as well.
So yeah, I think one of his more famous performances is an office space.
He is one of the, uh, the, the, the consultants that come in and are talking and everything.
You know, he's that guy.
He's, he's a heavy set guy.
He's got this walrus mustache and he's beautiful and he has, you have seen him a hundred
times.
He's been in so many things.
He's 76 right now.
Looks great.
He has not aged in the time that we have known him.
He has not aged.
He looks the same.
And while I've seen him a bunch, you know him as soon as you see him, two hundred and
nine rolls.
I did not know that.
I would have never known that.
Yeah.
And I'm sure he's done plenty of TV as well and commercials, commercials.
He's been to commercials.
Yeah.
A major standing ovation to that, sir.
That is, that is a living, my friends.
Incredible.
I think the rest of the names on this list are going to be familiar, but you might be surprised
still.
Okay.
At number six, Christopher Lee with two hundred and eleven, not too surprised.
No, he worked well into his eighties, uh, was in a hundred horror, uh, horror, uh, hammer
horror movies.
Uh, yes.
Very, and man, one of the smartest people you ever meet, too.
Wow.
Yes, yes.
What a great interview.
Getting to the top five, Danny Trejo comes in at two fifteen.
That's a shocker.
That's the biggest shocker on this list.
Oh, second biggest shocker on this list.
Tell me.
Uh, how would he have to, I mean, he didn't get started acting till well after, I mean,
he was at prison at one point.
He was incarcerated for the, uh, for a good portion of his life, his early life, uh,
his early life.
And got out.
And I want to say he was in his forties when he got out.
So the fact that he's got two hundred and, uh, I'm two hundred and eleven was the credited
acting, two hundred and fifteen, I'm sorry, two hundred and fifteen.
That's insane.
That's insane.
And, uh, boy, talk about a person who, uh, knows, uh, how lucky they are.
He talks about it all the time.
Wonderful interview.
Yes.
Get a chance to listen to him talk about that.
Um, Danny Glover comes in at number four with two hundred and nineteen.
One of my favorite people.
Danny, I love Danny Glover, fabulous actor can do anything.
Yep.
I would have never guessed in the top four of most roles though.
Yes.
That's impressive.
And that's a little surprising.
At number three, John Carradine with two hundred and twenty two.
Oh, yes.
Oh, John Carradine, the voice, uh, you know, I also had some famous kid actors, you know,
his son, David and his son Keith, both were in a hundred movies themselves too.
Uh, but John Carradine, you've, you've seen him use this super skinny guy was in a million
horror movies.
And at a very deep voice.
Yeah.
Amazing voice.
Yeah.
It's interesting to see how many of these actors worked with each other.
Uh, I mentioned the grapes of wrath.
Both John was in as well as Richard Ryle was in, um, uh, Ward Bond.
I think might have been in that.
I think he was in it too.
Yeah.
So it's interesting to see how many of these guys, especially earlier actors were in these
movies together.
We're down to our top two, everybody.
All right.
And I don't know if anybody had these two.
Okay.
At number two, all time, uh, for most acting performances, accredited roles, silent film,
legend, gird, gird chewed, aster.
276.
Okay.
Man, when back in the day, when you didn't have to worry about sound, you could crank out
movies like nobody's business, those silent movies, you could crank them out.
There were shorts.
There were, you know, full length ones, my goodness.
And that, that is so cool.
I love that idea that someone from like that age of movie making is like number two on
the list.
That is so cool.
At 276, I don't know that anybody is getting close to that.
I don't think you can.
And I don't think anybody has ever beaten Eric Roberts with 455 roles.
What?
Eric Roberts.
Eric Roberts is the number one on this list.
If anybody had that, you're lying.
You had nobody had that.
Nobody, not even Eric Roberts himself.
You know, he didn't even know that.
You didn't even know it.
I bet you.
It's insane.
Wow.
It's insane.
He is 68 right now and he has not stopped.
He's not stopped.
He's still in movies right now.
You can see him like anywhere right now.
He's the consummate actor, I guess.
I think younger people would know him from the dark night.
I think that other than that, it's all roles that you've seen, but you didn't know
you've seen him in things.
I think the pulp of Greenwich Village is a no where there was probably one of his more
dating life.
No, but you're right.
But earlier in his career, he had bigger roles.
You know, maybe because he was, you know, he's the brother of Julia Roberts.
But since then, he's been in just working.
Boom.
Movie.
In Eric, unlike some actors, there is no role, no big, too small.
It doesn't matter.
It will take it.
And it might get lost in the shuffle and everything with him.
This guy loves to work.
Loves to act.
It has to.
It wasn't evident.
Yeah, yeah.
For that many roles, yeah.
Which is, I think, noteworthy about just all of these names that we put on here.
And again, it just is noteworthy.
All of these names, again, people that had to come up from nothing or worked from hard
times or certainly appreciated what they had.
Yes.
100%.
100%.
And that's what a great list.
Oh, that's fun.
You know, this shows you the people that Hollywood isn't always what you think it is.
You know, the movie business isn't always what you think it is.
These are still workers.
They're doing their job.
They're going to work every day.
And yeah, sometimes they get more, you know, they get more pay than your normal person would.
But a lot of them don't.
And they got to just keep looking like you've talked so many times, got to keep looking
for the next job.
Look for the next job.
Look for the next job.
The soul of the entertainment industry is made up of these kinds of people.
And it is, again, noteworthy that you are never too old for any of this stuff.
No.
You could always, you never know when that break's going to happen, whatever it is in life.
That's right.
Great show today.
Yes.
And that's going to do it for us, everybody.
We'll be back again next week with a new director's cut here on WFHR.
