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Friends proving it's never personal only politics.

And now here's your host, Dom and Krut.

Welcome to the devil's advocates radio show.

Dom, I am on the road God's country lacrosse Wisconsin.

I find myself in the lacrosse center, the occasion, a Trumpian

town hall coming up at six o'clock central time.

How you doing little buddy?

Krutti, I am a fantastic thank you for going on the road and bringing

a truck to everybody.

I'm so excited.

Krutti in the room in lacrosse.

It sounds like a material disease when you say it that way.

And the lines are always open for our fair audience at eight four four nine six

seven two seven eight nine.

Krutti asked me before the show.

Well, this is the first concert I saw in lacrosse when we were in college

there together.

Oh, so many years ago, man, it's been so long.

It's hard to remember.

But I remember the last concert I saw there Rob Zombie.

Of course you did.

Of course you did.

Man, this has been a strange day.

I find myself where it all began, Dom and I right here in lacrosse

Wisconsin, dropped my kid off at college took him out to breakfast, cool

place downtown.

Uh, I forget what it's called.

I'll think of it somewhere during the course of this program, but it's like

phases is closed.

I have no idea what's going on here, dude.

I went to phases and the doors were locked and they're open every day.

That's what it says on the door.

And I absolutely I was taking my kid to phases.

First thing you do, tell him how to get rid of that, you know, had a few too many

beers, get up in the morning, go to phases.

And phases, phases might be out of business, talking about a, a world

gone mad, Dom.

There is no more phases for the drunken college kids.

Oh, no, it's too bad.

I know.

And not only that, I went over to the Eagles nest that find little bar over

on Campbell over by Mitchell Hall in lacrosse.

The Eagles nest.

Oh, we're not open until three today.

You know, higher and no college kids get a job.

They're higher and over at the Eagles nest.

Cancer be a burger before three in the afternoon, apparently, Dom.

So, you know, I was two strikes and before I could even, I mean,

there's a bite in the air.

Yeah, fade out town.

This Biden and Harris economy is just failing the citizens of lacrosse,

pretty.

I got to tell you after feeding you breakfast in Chicago, all last week,

Dom, feeding two boys plus myself, my, my son and his college roommate,

shout out to Bryce.

Cheaper than feeding the two of us in Chicago was three of us, three big, big

dudes, big dudes, leave lacrosse Wisconsin.

It is inexpensive to live a glorious life, along in the Mississippi.

Staking eggs and the woman, the, the, the.

I'm interested in what sort of toast would you like?

And you know, I'm not a big fan of the toast.

So I'll just, you know, just for kicks and giggles as they say, I threw out

I'll take the marble rye.

It's an old sign fell looking up.

It was a funny episode, but.

And she said, okay, and I was a little perplexed.

I said to you actually have marble rye.

They do.

And it was delicious.

And it was, it was themed like cousin Joe's basement.

This, this cool little cafe, this Main Street, down off a third street

cafe, they've got like all the old movie themes.

So like in the bathroom on the, on the hand dryer, it's like,

last year hands, you have filthy animals.

Kevin from home alone, you know, but the sort of movie posters and stuff

dot the scenery.

So it was a cool place and there were a couple of trump dudes there.

And the guy, the first guy I met all day and I told my son, I'm like,

I got to go meet this guy, you know, because he's, he's got Trump on his back.

And I'm here with James Kelly, fine reporter from civic media.

James is going to join us later this hour.

If he doesn't mind, we are here at the lacrosse center, a Trump town hall,

supposed to be a special event right here this evening, the special event is

you're listening to it right now.

But I meet these guys and this guy's wearing the Trump shirt and on the back of

the shirt down, Trump with double fingers, middle fingers pointed, right?

And it says impeach this classy.

And so anyways, he was a real friendly guy found out he was from the lacrosse area.

They were very excited to have the former president here.

Obviously this part of the state, a very important part of the swing,

theest of purple states, the great battleground Wisconsin.

And you know, there were some out front time and again, we will play you some

of the mega faithful sound.

You know, Crudy's here.

I'm doing man on the street going to save it for a little bit later.

But there was hope in the crowd that this visit by Trump was going to turn this

area just a little bit redder.

And also there was at least one guy, a guy wearing a cheese head with back.

I said,

debating his democratic opponent, Rebecca Cook.

Absolutely should.

I said, have you met the man he said, I have.

I said, you should tell him that because he didn't hate last any.

He said, who's that path?

I said, yeah, right, path.

You know, they never debated and it was your guy not willing to do the debating.

You know, if you see him, will he be here tonight?

My understanding is, Dom, Derek van Orden come to the stage.

Not more than a hundred feet away from me.

He's going to, you know, it's interesting.

Let me describe the scene I'm seeing here at the lacrosse center.

It's a basketball stadium and there are seating on what is tradition.

And in the middle of the arena, you know, sort of an oval.

They've pushed the stage to one side and there's two white chairs.

Presumably, that'll be for Trump and Tulsi Gabbard.

What an interesting choice for moderators tonight.

The pro Putin former democratic presidential candidate and Congresswoman.

Tulsi Gabbard.

Oh, they're playing some Trump video in the house.

People, people start to perk up for a little Trump.

So anyways, they've got this stage.

But next to this apparently moderated town hall, we can expect.

They've got nine chairs on one side and like 10 chairs on the other.

So there's like two rows of people that have to sit there on the stage and be human props.

And typically for a campaign rally, I could see that.

But for a town hall, what are those people for?

What are the 20 people on stage for?

I don't understand.

It's the reason that's why you're a little bit of, you'll report it later.

So we'll understand.

Of course, they got to be the props.

Wait, let's hear a little.

All right, go ahead.

Let's hear a little of the Trump video.

I'm going to play it just a little.

Let's hear what he's got to say.

Oh, they're kind of hot on their mics.

Let me see if I can turn that down a little.

See if this sounds a little better.

Nothing anyone wants to hear a Trump, but

hear him okay.

No, don't hear it at all.

Okay.

Well, we won't play this game.

I'll let you continue talking.

What were you saying?

All right, Krutty in the lacrosse center former president Donald Trump darkening the doors

of our former Alma Mater UW lacrosse dropping the kids off.

It's been a hell of a day.

Certainly, I would do have some updates.

Want to share with the audience again.

You can join us as well anytime.

Happy Thursday to us all eight four four nine six seven two seven eight nine.

You know, I've been talking all week about the J Weber situation, the J Weber situation.

Well, Daniel Bice over at the first day.

Where's Jay?

Bice picked it up and he is reporting on it today.

Here is the current update from Bice conservative talk show host J Weber has

now been off the air for a week since mocking Gus Walls, the 17-year-old son of Democratic

vice presidential nominee Tim Walls for his emotional reaction to his father's speech

at last week's Democratic National Convention reached Wednesday night.

Weber responded.

No comment.

Now, Jeff Tyler.

We know Jeff.

Metro president at I heart radio.

We do don't you end Milwaukee has not responded to repeated calls and texts over the past

week now host Benjamin Yout and Dave Michaels have filled in for Weber for the past five shows.

Now, just a reminder to everybody what we're talking about last week Gus Walls,

who has ADHD and anxiety disorder and a nonverbal learning disorder received widespread

attention when he stood at the DNC during his father's acceptance speech and

terribly shouted, I love you dad.

That's my dad.

Now, Weber, who has the morning show on WS IS and AM 1130 responded by posting

on Twitter quote, sorry, but this is embarrassing for both father and son.

If the walls is represent today's American man, this country is screwed.

And then he quotes as if he's Gus Walls.

Meet my, I'm sorry, he quotes as if he is Tim Walls.

Meet my son Gus.

He's a blubbering bitch boy.

His mother and I are very proud.

Now, vice continues.

The post came under widespread national criticism and Weber has since taken it down.

He's also apologized twice saying he took it down or having the facts.

I apologize to the walls family and anyone who was offended.

I feel horrible.

I am sorry, Weber posted the Milwaukee radio station last suspended one of its

hosts in 2004 when it took when it took conservative talker Mark Belling

off the air for a week.

We're using the ethnic slur wet backs at your regulatory term for illegal Mexican

immigrants.

W I S S suspended Belling amid protests and the withdrawal of several advertisers.

So not the first time I 20 years, I guess every 20 years,

one of the conservative host goes off the rails, but let's not forget.

It wasn't that long ago when Jay Weber was 20 years.

When Jay Weber was saying over 20 years was to buy one of the Obamacans for,

you know, 10 cows and some chickens and some goats or whatever.

Uh, that again, that's the mentality.

That's the update in the J Weber situation.

Where's Jay?

Jay'll be back on the airwaves very, very soon.

Dom as I told you, he is a ratings machine and in conservative circles.

That kind of matters.

They care about the ratings.

They try to get listership.

It's an amazing concept.

I wonder if the left is ever tried it.

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A town hall, some Elvis plane into building.

I think we're going to see perhaps a little fat all this a little bit later.

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Rich, I saw what you did there.

Well, Rob Zombie bringing me back to the days.

Appreciate that, man.

Dom here in the arena better off with trumpet says here at the lacrosse center in this place is starting to fill up.

Donald Trump doing a town hall at 6 o'clock tonight, a special event coverage going off on civic media.

We got James Kelly here.

One of civic media's fine reporters.

He is in the house.

Cody also, I'm in the house, I'm I am here in the lacrosse center where it all began.

This is where my little media career began and this little pussy when he down, I came to so many events here lacrosse capper games.

I didn't go with the concerts as you.

Don't have a musical tasty classic musical taste that you have down, but I did.

Well, I want to show up here and lacrosse the sky said, you know,

before I'd be going to the middle of cross area and I get to check the TV and TV mobile.

You remember that you sucked in the driveway once or twice.

I don't know if you're listening to the devil's advocates radio show crudey up in the lacrosse center.

Apparently the comms getting jammed a little bit.

We'll see if we could square that away and bring crudey back the fact that Donald Trump is in Wisconsin.

You know, it again shows the both political parties are paying lots of attention to this very, very important swing state.

But I want to I want to throw this out there and because it's been a weird couple of days for Donald Trump and we haven't really like gotten there.

So let me throw this one out there for your consideration considering this guy is here in lacrosse today.

So what's he been doing?

Well, according to axioms during the past 48 hours, former president Trump has boosted a barrage of social media posts that included.

Threats to jail critics and opponents repeated Q and on slogans and a suggestion that vice president Kamala Harris slept her way to the top.

How very, very presidential of the former guy now Trump's truth social musings have reposted and repost have grown more frequent and more vitriolic as new polls suggest he's losing ground to Harris.

Well, they're unlikely to win him new supporters, yeah, of course he's he's freaking out as it gets tighter and tighter as backs against the wall.

He lashes out that's what Trump does and this is his way of doing it with his truthies.

I mean, when you're when you're saying you're going to jail your critics and opponents and you're repeating Q and on and doing the whole hair slept away to the top thing.

Mr. former president, can you please stick to the policy? Yeah, good luck with that.

As axioms reports, few undecided voters hang out on true social and Trump's posts there don't draw nearly the level of media coverage has tweets did in previous campaigns, but the posts provide a taste of the stew of rage and conspiracy theories Trump and some of his most ardent supporters are consuming again, this guy's tweeting out Q and on.

You don't say this is this is craziness he's a he's a leading president or can he is the guy for the Megas for the GOP and this is what he's sharing this is what he posting this is him these thoughts and messages represent Donald Trump's line of thinking these are him when he puts it out there, it may as well be him saying it on the microphone.

Now, in addition to the implied threats of vengeance against his critics and the sexist attack on Harris, the post also signal how Trump is laying the groundwork to cry fraud if he loses on November 5th.

Yeah, again, again, this guy's been saying fraud. Of course, it's a projection. He's actually been convicted of fraud. He's engaged in fraud in the multitude of ways over many, many years. So he, he knows a little bit.

But he's claimed, of course, oh, if if I lose again, it will only be because of fraud.

Just in the past two days, Trump has reposted a series of true social messages that quote frequent Q and on sayings among them.

The world will soon understand nothing can stop what's coming, a popular saying by Q and on conspiracies.

W W G one W W G a short for another Q and I'm saying where we go one, we go all and another quote here, hold the line, justice is coming.

Now, other posts by the 78 year old former president include fake images showing prominent Democrats in prison, Garb and a call for former president Obama to be subject to quote military tribunals.

Military tribunal, you guys been president for a while, man, well, why you want a military tribunal for Obama? And whatever he did, isn't enough time passed, we could be charged. I mean, you know how it works.

Trump also reposted an image of Harris and Hillary Clinton that included a comment about how oral impacted both of their careers. I can't even say it because I mean, this is, you know, it's 330 of the afternoon and the president, former president, who's

going to be in La Crosse was casting today is out there spreading these things. Now, the Trump campaign spokesperson at Caroline Levit told axios, the American people don't care about social media posts and memes.

They care about the problems plaguing our country because of Kamala Harris's failed policies, the Harris campaign declined to comment.

And axios concludes that while much of Trump's most outlandish statements come on to social, he's also bearing off message in other forums and an interview with Dr. Phil this week, he suggested Harris may have wanted to have him shot.

He also claimed he actually won California in 2020, a state he lost by 5 million votes. And I believe I did see some of that. He said, if Jesus came down and counted the votes in California, Trump would win.

Well, tell me more Trump campaign about how Americans don't care about the social media posts and memes. Tell me more that Americans don't care about character and values and competency and decency and truth telling. Tell me more. I mean, convince yourself that you're never going to convince me.

And as it gets tighter and tighter, of course, let's not forget the indictment dropped, right? Again against Donald Trump polls are shown even from Fox News that he's slipping, slipping, sliding away. And this, of course, is his visceral reaction because he doesn't know how to comprehend. He doesn't know how to stay on message.

And it's not really about you, it's about your votes. Folks, we are the Devil's Advocates Crudy in La Crosse. We'll see if we can get that fixed. Join us on the lines as well. 844-9672-789.

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And Crudy in La Crosse Wisconsin, the reason former president Donald Trump holding a town hall, Tulsi Gabbard, the moderator, I guess, at the La Crosse Center in La Crosse Wisconsin.

Of course, we're Crudy and I went to college where we met, we were roommates for a couple of years together, that's where it all began.

Having some technical issues, Crudy is going to recombobulate and plan on joining us back at 4 o'clock.

So in the meantime, this is you, me, and Rich. But there are lots of things to discuss, and I saw this one over at the cap times.

And this strikes a little home to me. If you know me, all the kind of that third party guy, well, Andrew Ball writes, and ponders will independent presidential candidate swing Wisconsin results.

Oh, man, this would be the worst year to do it. But let's dive in here again, coming from me.

Now, Wisconsin, it's will have more third party candidates to choose from than in the past two presidential elections, a dynamic that could shape the results in one of America's most closely watched battleground states.

The potential impact of those six independent candidates was evident as the Democratic and Republican parties actively sought to either support or oppose their names appearing on state ballots.

There have long been fears from both parties that one of those campaigns could siphon off enough votes to deny Harris or Trump victory.

Democrats have been thwarted in their efforts to get to left leaning candidates barred from Wisconsin's November ballots prominent independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr will also be listed despite suspending his campaign and endorsing Trump.

The fights over ballot access provided ample entry for politicals, but observers aren't convinced that any candidate not named Harris or Trump will have much of an effect on the outcome of the November 5 election.

Barry Burden, a professor of political science at the University of Wisconsin Madison said this, I think all of these non major party candidates are quickly shrinking away in voter support.

I was kind of some elections that commissioned on Tuesday certified that there will be and get get this there will be eight presidential candidates appearing on the fall general election ballot the most since 2012 eight eight.

Now I know a lot of the folks out there like wow I'm so sick of this two party system and I always I've always said well there's way more than two parties while they're the ones that get all votes.

Well yeah, but it doesn't mean that you don't have options and again now this is again eight being the most since 2012 but there's always other candidates on the ballot unfortunately most people don't vote for them.

All continues at the cap times the elections the commission vote came 24 hours after the Wisconsin Supreme Court declined to hear a lawsuit brought by the Democratic National Committee which challenged green party nominee Jill Steins status on the ballot.

Such political maneuvers are nothing new in battleground states like Wisconsin independent Ralph Nader eventually made it on the ballot in 2004 after a protracted court battle.

But in an election that could be decided by a few thousand votes in the badger state the fight has taken on new energy and the debate might not be over state election officials that decision on who to allow on the ballot and who could to deny could still be challenged in court.

Elections commission chair and Jacobs said this I rather imagine no matter which way we do it will have a lawsuit tomorrow morning.

Oh yeah, everybody gets sued right now Republicans and the green party have argued that Democrats were acting in bad faith by seeking to blockstein and in the notion of removing her from the ballot harm democracy by denying voters a possible option or who to vote for now let's think about that statement for just a minute.

The Republicans and the green party so the Republicans are down for the green party in this regard because Democrats are acting in bad faith deny her access to the ballot.

You're harming democracy.

I quote from Pete Harris who was constantly green party official I think voters will look at the Democratic party and say they're actually the anti Democratic party.

Way to dig deep and people are fed up with these major corporate political parties playing these games.

Now the Democratic National Committee maintain that the green party would have no presidential electors to nominate in October because the party didn't field any state legislative candidates in the primary election.

The green party quote did not meet either of Wisconsin's two simple requirements to nominate candidates.

So it should not be on the ballot in November.

DNC spokesperson Adrian Watson said any written statement.

Now on Tuesday, the Elections Commission also rejected a separate DSD led effort to keep left wing commentator Cornel West off the ballot on the grounds that he did not properly notice his nomination papers.

Now Democrats have seized on the fact that Republican aligned groups helped gather signatures in support of West a long time by a brand who has been fiercely critical of President Joe Biden.

They believe the GOP is boosting him not for the sake of democracy but to derail Harris's odds.

Another quote from our pal.

Vegas Joe Zapecki. He's a Democratic strategist.

There's a fanciful idealistic dream where a dream world where a third party candidates rise above our politics and find a way to unite people from across the political spectrum because we all agree on most of these common sense things.

That is not what is happening here. Zapecki said.

And the question is, if any of the candidates are not going to vote for the election, I would say the question is, is the vote of the candidate removed by from the ballot by the state elections commission.

Is sheba, I a Duri.

Sorry for butchering the name, who has spread misinformation about the 2020 election and the COVID-19 pandemic.

A staffer for the Republican National Committee had filed complaints about that candidacy.

Now, burden the UW Madison political professor said he thinks only a small number of voters will be bothered that the major political parties took sides and whether other candidates should appear on the ballot.

That includes Democrats disillusioned with a Biden Harris administrative support for Israel during the ongoing war in Gaza.

Voters whom Stein has been trying to reach with her campaign.

A quote from burden. I could see that having an impact still not big, but where a small set of people where a particular issue has gotten under their skin.

And those folks are there. And again, I'm talking here now, not burden, but you know, it doesn't take months. We're talking about 20, 30,000 votes.

And every little bit matters. And I know, you know, back when I was the Gary Johnson libertarian guy, everyone, you know, knocks on Jill Stein for grab, but you know, 20,000 votes, but Gary Johnson got like 100,000 votes in the state of Wisconsin.

Oh, they would never were to vote for the Democrats anyway. Well, maybe, maybe not.

You know, it's easy to say now, but, you know, that those are those are big swings when you're talking about a difference of victory or defeat, like, you know, 20,000 votes.

I kept times that goes on talking about Robert F Kennedy Jr's impact the most high profile candidate from outside of the two major parties was almost certainly Kennedy in part due to his family ties.

Supporter support for Kennedy started strong and Wisconsin was pulling from March showing him pulling as much as 16% of the vote. That's from March.

Now his supporters had little trouble filing around twice the number of signatures required to get them on the ballot.

Oh, single digits after gunmen tried to assassinate Trump and Harris entered the race in lieu of Biden.

Now, after he suspended his campaign on Friday, Kennedy staff sent a letter to Wisconsin elections commission in an effort to remove his name from the ballot.

But, but, but state law requires he remain an option for voters and fall in the fall unless he dies.

The commission ruled five to one five to one that's three Republicans and three conservatives five to one that Kennedy will remain on the ballot.

I wonder who the one was because Bob Spindell, the fraudulent electric commission guys still on the commission even though he's involved in the fraudulent.

I mean, the still thing is this so gross.

To the extent, the extent to which Kennedy's supporters might boost either Trump or Harris is unclear a memo from Trump campaign operatives indicated they believe more of Kennedy's backers would migrate to their side.

The most recent market university law school poll found Kennedy had eight percent of the vote before he dropped out with the race between Harrison Trump projected to be a statistical tie.

I don't need to see here. That was eight percent. What was he pulling in March 16th percent?

Ouch. Maybe it was and that was before the the chain sign of the whales head on the beach story came up.

And that was, yeah, but, but, but since then, since then, there was the dead bear that he dropped in New York Central Park, right?

I mean, why would you want a vote for a guy like that? And Donald Trump, you know, plus 48 hours, tweeting out Q and I conspiracies and massage and his sexual jokes about Clinton and Harris, because, of course, he did because he's a 78 year old dirty old man who has nothing to offer.

Now, we talked about the eight percent. Now, Stein and libertarian chase Oliver were pulling at one percent while West and the Constitution party candidate Randall Terry were pulling at less than 0.5%.

Now, burden noted that it's not automatic that Kennedy supporters will flip to another candidate as possible. They just won't vote at all.

Hell, I would say it's possible. They'll still pull the lever for him.

If you see a man, they're like, oh, I didn't always run in the vote for him anyway. So, you know, lots of things can happen. Again, eight, eight presidential candidates on the ballot in the state of Wisconsin, a plethora to choose from.

A burden goes on to say many of them are interested in that candidate just because of that person or they are who they are or their platform or something else.

But once they're absent, there really isn't a substitute for that.

Now, our pal Joseph, he was skeptical voters would take on take a flyer on any non major party candidate in meaningful numbers.

His quote, I am very confident that people will understand there's only two people who are going to possibly be the next president of the United States and they're going to vote like it.

quoting Joseph Becky journalist Andrew ball at the cap times.

Now, as I mentioned, this is, you know, it's a little close to home for me.

I am seeing the libertarian state party convention in 2016.

It was a paid gig, man. You know, the checks clear.

And I introduced Gary Johnson. I think it was in the Dells and I did vote for Gary Johnson, that cycle, you know, whatever.

So now, but now here we are. And did those votes, did that vote matter? Yeah, probably.

100,000 voted for Gary Johnson, they have been split up some way somehow between the Republicans and the Democrats would, but Donald Trump have ever been elected.

Maybe not.

So there are consequences to it, whether or not I take personal responsibility for it or not.

I don't.

But they're.

I love you folks.

But there are certainly consequences. And I would say as, as that guy, as that guy, as the guy who voted libertarian, you know, voted for Scott walk on a recall.

Crudy will never let me forget that. You know, voted for bear first, but you know, votes for Scott walk in the recall.

You know, voted for Bernie Sanders in the primary voted for Joe Biden.

He can't tell me that I'm just, you know, one way and he's a, he's a flaming this righty flaming lefty flaming this flaming that man, a bounce all around.

And now that I've got a few more years under my belt, little wisdom, perhaps folks.

Six of those candidates have zero shot of winning the other two are Harrison Trump.

Trump is a narcissistic psychopath who has no business being anywhere near the White House.

He doesn't respect anything.

He doesn't love anything. He doesn't care about anything but himself.

He does not know what service means.

The other is Kamala Harris district attorney for the city of San Francisco attorney general for the state of San Francisco winning statewide election.

A senator from the state of California, a senator from the state of California.

And then vice president for the last several years.

And we can get into the weeds on policy or what she did here or should she legalize weed or was she too strong on this part, too weak on that part.

Great. Love to have those conversations, but there is zero comparison between her capabilities and her philosophy and the Kamala Harris for the people.

And Donald Trump for himself.

See what I'm saying?

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Get the feel for what the megas are saying.

Man, the Trumpsters are out in force in lacrosse.

Crude is of the man on this street.

He's got some sound.

We're going to share it.

We're going to talk about it.

We're going to, you know, maybe mocking a little bit.

You know, when you got the guy on the t-shirt with the Trump with the two fingers up, you know, saying impeach this.

I mean, I get the funny, but then I wonder, do you think you should have been impeached?

I mean, are you down with overthrowing the government?

Sir, just wondering.

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Crude is on the road in La Crosse.

Wisconsin recombibrating going to join us at the 4 o'clock.

Oh, of course, the former president.

Working the crowd in the cross.

I'm understanding that the facility holds around 8,000.

So if they got forced sitting, could be a little bit more.

Crude said it wasn't too busy at first, but it has been filling up.

I will bring you some of that sound in the next hour.

Talking about the folks on the ballot here.

Again, eight candidates.

You got eight folks.

Oh, there's never a choice.

Yeah, there's a choice.

You got eight.

You feel better?

Oh, we want more.

Okay, well, then you should try to get more.

But you got eight.

That's what you got.

And we'll see.

I mean, there's lawsuits could still be filed.

But you got eight.

That's more than two.

I'm sick of the two party system.

You got eight.

Well, they're not going to win.

Yes, Anne.

You know, hard for me to swallow, too.

You know what I mean?

To win Trump or Harris is going to win.

Politician.

That there's no way the other six candidates are ever going to win.

Well, then.

Don't.

Don't stay home.

Go vote.

And then I would ask you what is what were the reasons you would vote for some of those other candidates.

And if those.

Things are important to you.

Well, look at the other two remaining candidates.

If you acknowledge the fact that Cornell West is not going to win.

If you acknowledge the fact that that Jill Stein is not going to win.

That's a protest vote.

Okay.

But what are you protesting?

And what what matters to you and then take that thought and apply it into the other two candidates who will probably win.

What would Donald Trump do to that in that scenario that is driving you to vote third party?

How would he address your concerns?

There's driving you to vote third party.

I would come all the Harris and Tim Walls.

What would they do to address your concerns that are driving you to vote third party?

Because again, I'm here to tell you as the third party guy third party isn't going to win.

It's not a throwaway vote.

I get it.

I just throw my vote away when I voted for Gary Johnson at 16.

But it may have damage Hillary's chances and because of that.

We got Trump.

So if we don't, you know, acknowledge the history and the circumstances.

Of course, I do because I lived it.

I know what I'm saying it now.

And I appreciate.

I appreciate it.

I do.

Man, party to party system, the corruption.

Those things are there.

But also again, remind everybody.

Whenever you get more than two people in room together, hell, when you get two people in room together.

It gets tough.

You can't control the machinations or the attitude or the philosophy of every single person you come in contact with.

So when you're talking about, you know, huge political parties, huge political parties around forever these parties, right?

And you talk about the myriad of issues and platforms and planks that concern them.

And the people that come and go and all, well, this guy got arrested for that or that girl got arrested for this.

Yes, and yes, and corruption.

All those things apply in any, anytime there's a group of people, I don't care if it's a big family.

I don't care if it's a political party.

People are human.

I try to take advantage for their own benefit.

I don't care if it's a corporation.

I don't care if it's a church.

Anytime you got a bunch of people together, you're going to have conflicting motivations.

And you're going to have to deal with those things.

So what can you do?

You can acknowledge it.

Try to make it better.

Move on.

You can do that.

Or you can ignore it and try to think, well, you know, the green parties were my home is.

Or the Constitution parties were right or the libertarian party.

They're for me.

Oh, I get it.

As they got the voted for the libertarian party, I get it.

As they got the voted for the Republicans at one point, I get it.

You know, it's not, I'm not going to tell you what to do.

I would highly suggest that you really, really evaluate what drives you.

electorally.

And if you think that you care about the people in Gaza, the Donald Trump's the one to do something about it.

I think you're wrong.

If you think, you know, global climate change is a problem.

And you think that Donald Trump's going to make any impact.

Make that less of a problem to invest the money and resources and change, you know,

of our world view and lifestyles to address, you know, burning the ground beneath our feet for our energy.

Things pretty, you know, in the scope of existence.

Pretty futile.

But if you think there's, if you're concerned about that issue, you think Donald Trump's going to be the one to fix it for you.

You're concerned about the aggression of Russia or North Korea.

You're concerned about those things on the troops out in the field.

Do you think Donald Trump's going to be the one to address those and alleviate your concerns?

I just don't think so.

I just don't.

And because I know he's not, that means Harris will be better.

She's not going to be perfect on everything, certainly not, man.

But at least you'll try.

I think she'll try.

I think she'll try.

I think she's about the service.

She's not about the person.

So the other choices folks.

Six of them aren't going to win one of them will.

And I hope if there's anything that I can pass on to you from the years of me being me.

That maybe you both for Harris.

And work on it.

You don't like what the party's doing?

Join the local party.

Change it from within.

Do your thing.

But the Dems and the Republican, well the Megas.

Now there's only one political functioning political party left.

There's only one.

It's not even a two party system anymore.

There is one functioning political party.

And that is the Democratic Party.

The GOP had a cigarette put out on its ass by the Megas.

All those folks are anyone who was quote unquote reasonable.

They're gone.

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