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Now he's dropped a kid off a college doing the whole family thing.
He will be joining us tomorrow back on the radio.
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As mentioned, I do want to get into some of the details of the 36 page superseding
indictment that Jack Smith dropped yesterday.
But we also got to get to this JD Vance.
You know, you know, I feel about people without kids and how offensive is that?
Yeah, you kiddin' me, but we do have a nice comparison.
Tim Walls was talking to the firefighters union today.
So we're going to have some contrast between these two vice presidential candidate picks.
But with regards to Vance, let's start with a say, they got good news and bad news.
We got a good vice president of candidate and a bad vice president of candidate.
I like to start with the bad news first.
Axe deals reporting.
Vance backlash reignites as another childless woman comment resurface.
Pardon me, the gift that keeps on given.
He is once again facing scrutiny for unsurface comments.
Again, vetting, Trump vetting or was he just a sick of fan enough, but he didn't really care.
You know, we were talking about mixed master.
If you agree with me 90% of the time you're fired must do everything all the time and agree with me.
But anyway, Vance, facing scrutiny for unsurface comments about people who arc parents.
This time blasting a teacher's union president or not having some of her own children.
Wow, we have some sound.
I believe of this.
I believe cut number six.
Let's hear it.
It's not great sound.
So listen closely to what JD's Vance said back in October of 2021.
So many of the leaders of the left and I hate to be so personal about this,
but there are people without kids trying to brainwash the minds of our children.
And that really disorients me and it really disturbs me.
Randy Winegarten, who's the head of the most powerful teachers union in the country.
She doesn't have a single child.
If she wants to brainwash and destroy the minds of children,
she should have some of her own and leave ours the hell alone.
Apparently, that is the the thought of JD Vance, at least in 2021.
As Axios goes on to report, Winegarten described herself as a mother by marriage
after rep Marge, retailer, grain and really, where's MTG been lately?
You know, I mean, you haven't heard a whole lot from large Marge.
After Marge, similarly suggested the union president was not a mother
during a congressional hearing.
As Vance said, if she wants to brainwash and destroy the mind of children,
she should have some of her own and leave ours the hell alone.
Now, the American Federation of Teachers has endorsed vice president Kamala Harris
in this presidential cycle.
And Winegarten reposted Kamala's HQ Kip of the audio shared to Twitter
and condemned Vance's jab as gross.
And here's what she had to say in response to this 2021 recording that now again,
has resurfaced.
I mean, if this is coming up now, and I can't wait to see it comes up in October,
here's what Winegarten said, JD Vance's comments are sad and insulting
to millions of modern families and schoolteachers, including Catholic nuns,
none of whom should be targeted for their family decisions.
Now, Winegarten married her wife, Rabbi Sharon and Kleinbaum,
who has two children in 2018.
Oh, oh, married her wife.
That's just two women married together.
That's, that's really tough for the Megas to swallow.
Liz Schuller, the president of the AFL CIO also slammed Vance's comments,
saying they show his true colors, a sexist, anti-woman blowhard,
who doesn't have a clue what's best for America's students.
Now, Tyler Van Kirk, a spokesman for Vance, said in a statement, provided to Axios,
that there are a lot of great teachers across the country at whom the V.P.
nominee's criticism was not directed.
Oh, really?
Okay, let's hear more.
There is no bigger threat to American children than the left wing and
Dr. Nation being forced on our schools by elites like Randy Winegarten
and with the support of Kamla Harris and Tim Wallace.
You know,
I forget which state it was now mandating the showing of the Ten Commandments,
the old testament Ten Commandments in schools.
Now, if you want to talk about grooming or brainwashing,
tell a six-year-old that if they don't believe what you believe,
they're going to burn an eternal hell.
I mean, try to get their heads around that.
Don't don't talk to me about indoctrinating kids.
Yeah, one plus one is two, you know, teaching proper English and grammar.
Maybe Trump should have taken that.
You ever read some of those tweets that that's not indoctrination?
And you know, informing children that, you know, maybe, maybe what they're,
what their exposure has been to is not everything.
You know, men can love men.
Women can love women.
It's some, and men can love women.
Women can love men.
It's amazing how those things work.
And just because those things happen and even,
even if you don't think that's something that you want to get involved with,
that you don't think is right, that's fine.
That's fine.
You don't have to do it.
But for these guys to excuse, excuse this comments once again,
while the single cat lady guy is, I mean, you can't, you can't.
So many of the leaders on the left, and he'd be so personal about this,
but there are people without kids trying to brainwash the minds of our children.
It's, I guess if it's not strict Catholicism, right,
then it's brainwashing.
I mean, having forbid you expose children to other cultures and other thoughts
than the ones that you were born with, because your religion, all those things,
that's all cultural, man.
Whatever religion you so dearly, dearly believe it,
unless you like convert it as an adult, you know, it's a result of your upbringing.
There's never been a, there's never been a Muslim child born of Christian parents.
You know what I mean?
That just doesn't happen.
Now, maybe they convert when they become adults, but of course you are,
you are, it's all part of your culture.
You are, I'd say it in the term of best way I can think of it,
is victim of your culture.
It could be good, or it could be bad, but you are, you are what's around you.
You don't, it's not a terrible thing, but what you recognize that,
that you are a consequence to a very large degree of the culture around you.
And that's your parents, and that's your friends, and your extended family.
Those are the things.
So, you know, education, you know, growth is beyond, you know, the one plus one equals two.
You know, there's all sorts of things to get into.
And certainly, acknowledging the rights of, of, of people who maybe love
differently than, than some other people do, is that, is that brainwashing?
That's not brainwashing.
That's, that's, that's telling people that you don't grow up being an adult,
and mind your own damn business.
844-967-2789-TOM from LA, the left is coast.
Welcome, my friend.
What do you got for us?
Oh, Dom, I got so much.
You're doing a great job, man.
Oh, great job.
You got JD weirdo.com.
It was, you know, it must have been him saying it.
You have to always say, shut the hell off, or whatever, to his kids.
Second, I don't have to have that clip or not.
That's a good one to play.
Second.
They should really try reading the Ten Commandments,
because they might want to, if they followed any of them.
Wow, they would find out that they're more like us than they are like them.
And I'm more afraid of the people, not that we're raised,
a certain religion.
I'm more afraid of the people that have messed up their life so bad,
that then they go on their high floors, and they're born again,
or whatever the hell it is.
And then all of a sudden, all they look down on everybody else.
And all of a sudden, those are the people I'm scared of.
Most of the people that are raised a certain way,
actually, like myself, whose Catholic was raised a certain way,
but then, you know, looks at it and go, okay,
I don't have to be following the doctrine of the church or whatever.
Have you?
But these people are just insane.
I don't know how it went and appeared today with him,
with JD weirdo.
But, yeah, you know, Donald Trump is just not a serious candidate
to be running for President of the United States.
He's Donald old, and he's all he wants is Project 2025.
And you know, one other thing, Dom, Peter Tiel,
who was the major funder, the reason why JD weirdo is even on the ticket,
is a self-aiding gay man.
I really would love to hear from these people,
these right winners, that hate gays, hate the gays, hate people like,
got, you know, the Department of Education had Randy Winegarten.
I would love to hear what they say about Peter Tiel,
who is the reason they got the funding that they have.
It would really be interesting that some of these right winners
would actually say, oh, I'm okay with Peter Tiel,
because he's gay, I'd like to know.
Thanks, Tom.
Yeah, thank you, Tom.
Great point.
I mean, you know, it's the hypocrisy is not lost.
There's lots of gay Republicans.
Then there might be a few, you know, maybe they're out.
You know, there's a few out one.
There's a lot of self-aiding gay Republicans.
You know, listen, it's, it's a complex thing.
Man, I'm straight.
I haven't had to go through that kind of struggle.
I never really thought about it.
And I, but just because of that,
doesn't mean I don't empathize and understand,
know the challenges of those that do.
And when you're growing up, man,
kids, kids are ruthless, just his kids, you know,
because kids are kids, you know,
and we've got to hopefully you'll bring them along
and teach them the empathy.
You know, teach them the love and respect.
And those kinds of things that, you know,
generally, I would think most religions
and would try to teach people.
You know, I was shouting that kill.
You know what I mean?
Don't cover my neighbor's wife, Trump.
You know what I'm saying?
I know a few of them.
But it's, you know, if you wrap yourself in the flag
and you carry the Bible and you justify
terrible awful behavior based on your sense of patriotism
and your sense of religious belief,
whatever that religious belief or hell even don't believe,
doesn't justify that mindset.
Well, since we are the devil's advocates,
come back more of your phone calls
and we will get to Jack Smith's
super seating indictment as well.
Plus, I did promise you some sound
Tim Walls. We heard a little bit of the other guy.
Let's hear the actual who we hope to be
the next vice president of the United States.
He was speaking today as well.
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Well, we played a little bit of JD Vance,
you know, blasting women with no kids back from 2021.
Again, so more of the same.
But Tim Walls, who was speaking today
at the International Firefighters Convention,
rich, you did the hard work.
Thank you. Let's hear what Walls had to say.
Cut number one, please.
We believe that workers deserve to collectively bargain
for fair wages, safe working conditions,
good health care, and secure retirement.
No interference from government.
Well, one extreme position.
You know, workers should have a say in those things.
Yeah, of course.
This is an 1820.
Let's keep going to Walls cut number two.
When Republicans used to talk about freedom,
they meant it.
They meant it.
Not anymore.
These guys over there, they want government
to have the freedom to invade every corner of your life.
Well, only, only if it's to push on you what they want.
You know what I'm saying?
Other than that, do what you want.
You know, they don't want, they don't want any sort of regulation.
We don't need regulation until they want regulation.
They, you know, they want free market capitalism
until they want to push tariffs.
You know, I mean, there's no absolutes.
And if you're going to have a philosophy,
a guiding principle, you know,
it should be pretty consistent.
I would just think, but call me crazy.
That's how I was raised.
One more from Tim Walls, the current governor of Minnesota
and hopefully soon to be the next vice president
addressing the International Firefighters Convention.
Cut number three, please.
Every hero deserves to come home at the end of every shift.
And know this.
We see your noble courage.
We're forever grateful to you.
We're going above and beyond to keep all of us safe.
And we're committed to building a future
that you and your families deserve.
Here you go, Tim Walls.
Now, if I recall and you know,
Curtis not here, so I don't have my extended memory.
But I'm pretty sure the firefighters union has not yet endorsed.
So, you know, Walls out there making a pitch to the unions.
844-967-27-89.
Let's get to some own callers, Lisa,
from Racine County, Wisconsin.
Welcome, Lisa. What do you got for us?
Hello, Lisa.
Oh, hi. Sorry.
Hey, there we go. Welcome, Lisa.
Hi, hi.
Good afternoon, I'm sorry.
I had to take it off speaker.
So, anyway, his analogy of pointing out
that you have to have children in order to somehow do a job well in education.
Well, I'm a nurse.
I've never had a broken leg.
I've never had kidney disease.
I've never had, you know,
I've never had a multitude of things.
But does that mean I don't understand my patients?
Does that mean I can't be a nurse?
You know, I haven't had twins.
I mean, I could go on and on and on.
Yeah.
I mean, none of us do necessarily what our jobs are.
We don't necessarily, yes, we live them,
but we don't have to live them to be good at them.
And another thing, just to point out there,
I couldn't have 34 felonies and have my job
because I'm a nurse and my credentials are higher
than the president of the United States.
I just want to point that out.
That is a great observation, Lisa.
Great points all we appreciate you listening
and calling the devil's advocates 844-967-2789.
I mean, really, I mean, you don't have to have an expertise
or to have children or whatever the case may be.
You're going to tell me that someone without a child
cannot understand what it was like to be a child.
Is it so far gone that you can't understand,
you can empathize, appreciate, understand, remember,
know how it was.
I mean, and even if you have kids that somehow
gives you an expertise on everything,
no, of course not, of course not,
to make such bold judgments and just bold ignorant judgments.
I mean, JD Vance has never been the vice president
of the United States.
So should JD Vance be the vice president of the United States?
You know, no one, and you're not the president
until either president.
So you're not that thing until you're that thing.
And once you're that thing, you know,
maybe you have, it comes with some experience
because you built up to that thing, you know,
a minor league baseball player, major league baseball,
whatever the case is, experience gets you that.
You know, trips around the sun gets you that.
Some things take time, but some things, you know,
you can just, all you need is understanding to appreciate it.
You don't need to, let's just be real here.
Well, I was, I was involved in the child birthing process,
but my wife had the kid, my wife carried the kids,
wasn't me.
So I don't have kids, quote unquote, JD Vance.
Do you, because because I'm a man,
I haven't had to deal with the effects of incest,
or rape, or a birthing process that somehow went bad
that have to abort the child.
That will never understand those things.
Doesn't mean I can't appreciate what women have to go through
in those circumstances.
I mean, according to JD Vance, if I'm understanding this,
at least up to your point, JD Vance is not a woman.
JD Vance has never had a child.
Therefore, given JD Vance's philosophy here,
and if I'm extrapolating the logic, as it is,
then JD Vance and all men, no man, no man should have any input
on abortion policy whatsoever, right?
But somehow, they sure got lots to say.
844-967-2789, we'll stick in CJ for a minute
if you got it.
Are you there, CJ?
Hey there, Tom, thanks for taking my call.
You're welcome, man.
What do you got?
Well, you know, as I listen to you,
criticize JD Vance, I don't hear you criticize
that public schools and this Ms. Vanguard,
it wouldn't be an issue if public schools
was doing a good job teaching our kids,
because they are not doing a good job.
And that's quite obvious in the result.
So that's, if you play the whole thing.
Did you go to public school?
CJ, did you go to public school?
Oh, yes, I did.
Did you go to public school?
Okay, and how do they do for you?
Are you a failure of public education?
Are you a success of public education?
That depends who you have.
But I'm asking you, man.
Well, it took COVID, it took COVID to find out
that they weren't teaching reading.
Listen, man, you didn't answer the question
but I appreciate you playing.
You, I mean, I went to public schools for up until eighth grade.
My parents willfully pulled me out against my will.
It was their will and sent me to Catholic school.
I had to deal with all that.
I thought I turned out all right.
Everything's a challenge, man.
It's a matter of degree.
You're going to tell me that private education
is that much better?
Come on, but everyone deserves a shot.
And for work for the public schools,
most kids wouldn't have it, CJ.
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Party, Eric Fomall.
Stuck in low-die.
Again, welcome, Eric.
What do you got for us?
Yeah, so JD Vance likes to make a big deal
about childless cat ladies and not having skin in the game and all that.
Wasn't his own mother kind of, she had a kid, right?
JD Vance, his own mother was kind of a train rack, wasn't she?
I mean, you know, just goes to show it,
just because you have a kid doesn't mean you're going to be a good parent,
doesn't mean you have any more insight.
And I don't know the entire backstory.
I didn't read nor did I watch the movie, Hillbilly,
LG, but my understanding mom had somewhat of an opioid problem, Eric.
So what does that mean?
She doesn't have any right to vote for whatever.
I mean, what did her addiction, if I'm understanding the story properly,
what does that limit her as far as her citizenry,
as far as her ability to engage in American experiments?
I mean, if it's JD Vance, apparently she has no place.
All right.
Thanks for the call, Eric.
What happened there, but good points, you know,
it's always the day they, they, the other, the other, the other.
And you know, the public school is like, oh my god, are you kidding me?
I mean, if we're for the public school,
I mean, if you don't have the ability or the money to send your kid to a top-notch private school,
and yada got all that stuff, how are you supposed to get educated,
especially in today's world?
I like, you know, go back over the course of hundreds of years,
and how, how kids were raised, and how kids were taught.
You know, I mean, it's, I would, I would submit to you without even doing the research.
One of the reasons why we are where we're at as a country is because of public education,
because of only the top 1% of the 1% have the ability to get educated.
Well, you know, we're, we're not going to have an educated workforce.
We're not going to be motivated workforce.
You know, I'm saying it is, it is imperative that education is so super important.
Not, and not just the, you know, the one plus one, not just the mathematics and the arithmetic,
the reading right and arithmetic, right?
It's everything.
It's the social part of it as well.
Of course it is.
And what do we see now from the private schools?
Oh, vouchers, baby.
vouchers.
Well, what else have we seen?
Well, many of the private schools, especially here in the state of Wisconsin,
I would imagine this is the case all over.
I went to a private school,
Appleton Xavier, the Hawks, baby.
And my parents paid out a pocket.
They made the determination.
They didn't want me to go to a Hortonville High anymore.
Go polar bears.
And they wanted to put me in an Appleton Xavier.
Better, you know, college prep, better, better education.
Okay, maybe got a good education.
I thought, Mr.
my friends still hung out of them lived way out.
But the education that I got from first through eighth grade was fine.
I came in well prepared.
I was ready to roll.
But now, now these days,
you know, a lot of folks church attendance is down.
And when church attendance is down, typically that means that
tithing is down.
And if tithing is down, that means revenues are down.
And if revenues are down, that means you're probably losing money.
And if you're losing money, you can't keep the doors open.
So what do we do?
Oh, well, here in Milwaukee, I think Milwaukee started this whole mess, right?
Well, I mean, let's give the vouchers out.
And then the parents didn't send the kids to a different school.
Now, let's never mind the whole,
they get around the, you don't want religious and
indoctrination of public school,
seen by giving the money to the parents.
You know, so they can make that determination.
Oh, okay, but give me a break, ma'am.
Come on.
My parents and they did not get a tax credit.
When they sent me, there was no deduction.
There was no voucher.
They went to their pocket and spent that money.
And to them, that was a good investment.
And I would say, wow, private school parents,
why don't you do it like my parents did?
Why don't you go into your own pocket
and send your kids to private school?
Why do, why should you rely on the socialist taxpayers
to fund your private school religious indoctrination?
Because let's, let's, let's be real here.
Most of these private schools are religious based.
And, and if you got someone who's a rabble rouser like me,
I sat in the back.
Like I said, I didn't go to religious school
for my first eight years of my career.
I wasn't until ninth grade.
And I ended up going to a Catholic school.
And while the Italian side of my family,
you're growing up Catholic, it was baptized,
but not confirmed.
My parents were already waffling by that time.
I went to church a few times.
You know, not, not really though.
They weren't, they tried.
I remember, you know,
oh, we're going to sit down and read Bible verses.
You know, okay.
That didn't last very long either.
So I go into, I go to school.
It's like freshman year and I don't know.
I guess I didn't know if you're, if you're not baptized,
you're not supposed to take communion.
You know, eat the, the dry ass cracker.
So I go up and I'm like, well, all my friends are standing in line.
I guess I'll go, I'll go do this.
Stand up, walk in front.
Body and blood of Christ.
And I think you're supposed to say, amen.
But I may be in the polite guy in a situation that I'm not normally in.
I said, thanks.
So there's a learning curve.
And it's part of that learning curve.
I sat in the back of the class and religion.
Because of course, this is a private school.
And much like I would imagine many of these
private institutions that are taking public voucher money.
There was a religion class.
And I sat in the back of a religion class.
And it happened to be this religious,
religion happened to be Catholic.
And the Catholics believe in one God,
the father, son, and Holy Spirit.
I'm like, wait a minute.
I just got out of Mr. Denise's class and math.
And the father's one, Holy Spirit son,
two, Holy Spirit three.
That seems like three gods.
Those kinds of things, right?
So I was having those discussions.
I'm disrupting the class, necessarily.
I'm eagerly trying to learn.
And eventually after over and over and over again,
I'll spend maybe the second semester of my freshman year.
Maybe it was my first semester of sophomore year.
I was miraculously excused
from having to take the mandatory religion class.
Because apparently,
Nick, I was Nick back then,
some things are a matter of faith.
Fair enough.
Got it.
So how about we don't waste our time with it?
Because for me as the non-believer being forced into a religious
indoctrination, a religious brainwashing,
JDVS, I don't know what you call it,
but I had questions.
And ultimately, the answer was it's a matter of faith.
And I accept that.
And I no longer had to go to class.
So I got to hang out and I got like an extra study hall
and hung out with my mung friends
and to hang out with the assembly of God people
because there are other people that they didn't believe.
They had a different religion
or they didn't believe that particular strain of that religion.
And now, now, not then,
not back in 1985 to 1989,
but now that religion class that I was forced to take,
that I asked questions on,
well, that's funded and financed by public tax dollars.
And when 9-11 hit and everything went to cramp
and everyone's like, all these,
the Muslims in the, all these terrorists
and all these kinds of things,
we don't want to surrealize.
And all that, all that,
well, what about canon law?
I mean, would you be better?
Would you be more happy
under the auspices of a Catholic fascism?
You know what I mean?
What do you, like literally,
what are you talking about?
So the fact that we now,
and have this conversation,
we got to this because of the,
you know, the whole public school thing.
Thank you, CJ.
We now, we now subsidize
religious indoctrination
or children with our tax dollars.
The only difference is those that are receiving the tax
sell is they want to do that.
They want to do it.
They're fine with that,
particular strain of indoctrination,
of brainwashing.
Oh, they're fine with that.
But if you tell kids,
it's okay to be gay and gay people can get married
and they have every right to have every right
of every other person,
apparently that's just a bridge too far.
Because what?
Leviticus.
I'll show not lay with a man.
But also, you know,
shellfish is bad.
So's bacon.
I love bacon.
You know, so is that why red lobster?
You know, you don't see,
you don't see all the religious folks
boycotting outside the red lobster.
Not that there's many more around anymore.
No, that part of Leviticus,
they're fine with that.
You don't see them outside of Cole's corporation
headquartered here in Wisconsin.
Thank you, Herb Cole.
Uh, you know, apparently they're they're they're
they're prophets were down this this quarter,
uh, you know, bad for them.
That sucks.
But you don't see them outside.
You don't see the religious folks outside of Cole's
lamenting the mixing of the linens and the walls.
No, no, they'll save that for their very specific issue
being apparently the gays.
So yeah, you know, uh,
it's not like the and and and further.
I'm not clear that there's any indication
that the outcomes for public schools are any better or worse
than the outcomes for private schools.
I know there's studies done.
My my my general recollection again,
Missy Crudy, is that man?
Eh, it's it's kind of the same.
And a lot of it comes down to the socio economic status
of the children that are involved.
Certainly.
There's no cure all.
There's no there's no there's no wavy
of the one.
You know, people flunked out of Appleton's
they've heard people flunked out of Hortonville
polar bear high school.
Man, I mean, that that happens.
But the fact is we have an option.
You know, parents are able to send their kids
off to school where there's professionals
that understand their craft and their trade.
Generally unionized, you know, Hortonville
has a big problem back in my day.
I remember they went against the union
and finally they formed their own unit.
So this day, I don't know if they were in part of the
actual state union.
It was it was a big thing.
I remember it was a kid someone shot
like someone's dog.
I mean, it was it was really ugly back then.
I was a kid getting an education.
I didn't really think much of it.
Oh, we have you know, substitute teachers.
You know, they call them scabs,
but you know, we had substitute teachers.
So, but if it worked for that,
what I would have been
been to the going to the private school from day one,
I guess because good luck if you don't have public education
getting a step up.
All right, let's get some phone calls.
844-967-2789, Jim from Appleton.
Hey, man, what's up?
How you doing?
Hey, Jim.
Hey, welcome.
You're from you're from up here.
Well, yeah, you're from up here in the valley area.
Do you remember in old school called JFK craft?
I do not.
I do not know.
Okay, well, it was it was a private school,
but it was not religious.
I sent my kids through a religious school from fourth grade
through eighth grade, and then they went to public school
kind of the opposite of you.
Back then, through religious schools,
we're scared to death of taking government money
because they thought that the government would apply
the same standards to them
that they do through public schools.
Yep, but we started giving money to private schools
and said, oh, you don't have to worry about the standards
and that's where the biggest problem is.
Yeah, it is.
The inequities, Jim, is very specific.
I mean, if you're taking that money as a private institution,
you don't have the standards.
You know, public schools have to take those kids
that have, you know, if you have a learning disabilities
or your troublemaker, whatever the case may be,
the challenge and, you know, pick your list.
The public schools don't have the option to say,
no, we're not accepting.
Private schools do.
They don't have to do that.
So what, they, if they reject, let's say,
because they don't, maybe they don't,
it's not necessarily a bad will.
But if you just don't have the facilities,
you know what I'm saying?
If you don't have the,
the handicapped accessible hallways and bathrooms
and those kinds of things,
it would take a lot of money and effort
to upgrade to do that.
And of course, a lot of these places are already
skating by anyway because they're living off of the tithing.
You know, they're selling a dream, man.
So it's not necessarily all bad,
but if you're able to take, let's call it,
you know, the cream of the crop and the less desirable.
Well, we're going to kick them off to public school.
We don't want them.
Well, that's not equitable.
That's not fair.
And it certainly can impact a statistical outcome.
If you compare, you know, the results of those two,
of those two institutions.
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I'm going to get to every single one of you.
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Got a few holding.
Let's get right to it.
The Falcon.
Ooh, that's a cool name from Madison.
Welcome Falcon.
Where do you got for us?
Hey, JTS.
I was just listening to that yesterday.
Love it.
Say, the public schools, the Republicans have been
destroying the public schools since Ronald Reagan in 1980.
And they keep on taking their money.
They're killing them by starvation.
Teachers don't get paid anything.
Schools don't get any money.
Because guess what?
Dumber, the smart people don't vote Republican
unless you're a billionaire or a hardcore racist or both.
Well, what about those that want to be a billionaire someday?
Falcon, you know?
I mean, if I get to be that rich, I don't want to pay any taxes.
Hey, go, go to it.
That's fine.
But I'm just saying it's no surprise that they want to destroy
the public schools because look at your mega people.
What do they know about anything?
Nothing.
They know nothing about nothing.
That's probably school, baby.
And when you keep taking the money from them,
that's what's going to happen.
Thanks for the call, Falcon.
Certainly don't want to broad bust.
There's lots of smart.
There are a lot of smart Republicans out there.
Man, don't let them fool you.
And many of them are making the calculation
that maybe they don't like this part.
They don't like that part.
Maybe they don't agree with Trump on everything.
But, you know, God forbid, they vote for a Democrat.
You know?
Well, and your point on the schools,
and it's a continual erosion.
I mean, if we put the priority on funding, the schools,
like we used to, we would have, we would have better outcome.
And not only that,
it's not not only the lack of funding.
You can do it on the K through 12.
And certainly here in the state of Wisconsin,
we lack the proper funding to my humble opinion
for a university system as well.
It's not like the money's not there.
It's not being allocated.
It's just not a priority.
For some reason, I mean, if you don't want, you know,
an intelligent population asks questions,
a less intelligent population,
asks less questions.
So if there's a grand conspiracy,
I'll just throw that out there.
But above and beyond that, the legislature is also here
in the state of Wisconsin.
Well, now if you want, they don't want to go through
the process of raising taxes.
Ah, no one wants to raise taxes.
Of course, raising taxes is tough.
It sucks.
No one wants to pay more taxes.
Ah, maybe you do, though.
Depends on what it's for.
So now, now if you want to, you know,
address the challenges in your local district,
you've got to go to referendum.
So the people raise their own taxes.
So they go to referendum.
They're going to raise their own tax.
Well, now people were doing that.
Now the government, at least here in the state of Wisconsin,
we've got to limit that to a degree.
I mean, it's just, it's just a continual erosion.
And really, you got to wonder why?
I mean, if it's just a straight line bottom,
you know, financial net,
you know, outlaw of money to things
that Republicans may not necessarily want.
Because of course, they're about the tax cuts.
Oh, you got to, you got to kill the,
with a learning disability.
Oh, here's a tax cut.
Right.
That's their answer for everything.
Oh, you need more money for schools?
Oh, don't worry about it.
Here's a tax cut.
Tell me how that relates to any of that.
So no, man, I, I,
you know, once you start diving into it,
once you start thinking about it and,
and coming from a public school and a private school
and having, you know,
the run the game, but on all these kinds of things,
it's tough to understand the motivation,
but that really doesn't matter.
What matters are the outcomes.
And the outcomes are the schools get less funding
over and over and over again.
Thanks for the call, Falcon.
Let's keep going.
Chris from Rice Lake.
You're welcome.
Chris, what do you got?
Hi, I'm, how's it going?
Good, man.
Yeah, you know, I think,
I think no one in, in, in the state of Wisconsin
or around the country should complain about public schools.
As long as we allow and encourage all of this homeschooling,
these kids, these kids, you want to talk about people being caught by dummies.
I mean, so these, these kids, I see them in the,
I see them in the stores.
I see them running around in neighborhoods.
I see them in restaurants during the day.
They're not being taught.
They're not being, I mean, they just,
they look through a book or, or maybe they do a worksheet or something.
And that's their day.
I mean, they're, they're small.
There's an absolutely no,
you know, accountability in this homeschooling business at all.
I mean, for anybody to complain about what the public schools are doing
while homeschooling is allowed to go on is, I'm sorry, it's 100% wrong.
Thanks for the call, Chris,
I want to get some more out there.
I would say this, there are some parents
and I have family members at homeschool and, and very dedicated into it.
And I think the challenges are getting a social part of it.
And so there's homeschool groups and all those kinds of things.
So it depends, like, like many things, depends on the parents.
It depends on the teacher.
I've had good teachers.
I've had bad teachers.
The problem is if you have a parent who's a quarter-quote bad teacher,
the chance that you get another one next year is pretty low.
Chris, I'm sorry, let's go jack from the back.
You are next welcome, jack, what do you got?
First of all, a little perspective.
And I'm coming at this from 40 plus years of teaching.
I'm retired now.
But I taught in public private parochial schools at grade levels from six
up to about sophomore college level.
All right.
First thing I'm going to say,
I'm going to say is that
still-called school choices, exactly that the school gets to choose
who they want for students.
All right.
Second thing I'm going to say is that
I have been when I was in private school.
I was told, well, this is the college prep school.
Even though I had at that time about 15 years of teaching in the sciences,
I was told, your students have to have higher grades.
And I basically said, well, here are some of the kids that have special needs.
And they need, you know, they need this kind of help.
And there are people on the staff.
Well, we don't have enough money to do that.
But your students still have to get higher grades.
The statistics show that these private schools don't get any better quality results if they
do standardize testing, which is a goal standard for these conservative.
They don't do any better on standardized tests.
They may go-
Sorry, Jack.
I got to cut to short.
Thank you for being a teacher, Jack.
Didn't know that folks, we appreciate you listening and hanging out with us.
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