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Now live from the Civic Media Studios in Madison, Wisconsin, where the political party is just
beginning, welcome to the Devil's Advocate's radio show.
Once proving it's never personal, only politics.
And now here's your host, Dom and Crute.
Welcome to the Devil's Advocate's radio show.
Happy Monday to us all!
I'm your host, co-host, Dom and Excalibur Crute is out today well deserved day off.
So it's going to be me, you and Rich.
Hey Rich, welcome, man.
You can always call us here.
Rich will lightly screen your calls at 844-967-2789.
Man, what a week!
Oh, my goodness.
So thank you everyone for tuning in, hanging out with us last week while we cover the DNC.
I also want to send some love and shout-outs to the staff over at Civic Media, a flawless
production.
These things can be very difficult.
There's lots of variables, there's lots of things happening at one time and sometimes
best late plans don't work out.
But as I always say, when things are challenging, how you rise up and how you overcome, those
challenges says a lot about the character and skill of people and everyone at Civic
Media did a bang-up job and we appreciate what they did.
You too, Rich.
Thank you, man.
So we were off last week Friday and I didn't get a chance to get reaction, overall reaction
from all of our fair audience.
And so it was crewing off today.
I want to spend some time with you, our fair audience, 844-967-2789.
We're going to kind of recap some of the speeches.
I know it was live, we were listening, but that was like a long time ago.
I didn't get to do anything on Friday, so I want to get some highlights of some of my
favorite parts of the DNC speeches and acknowledge some of the influential, strong black women
that really I think just gave the best speeches and really had an influence on me and really
made me appreciate their abilities to communicate what I think a lot of us have been thinking,
rolling around on our head, but to be able to have the skills of, you know, filter it out,
present it with passion.
It was there were some really, really good speeches all week and long talking to some friends,
well, what was your favorite speech?
What was your favorite speech?
What was your favorite speech?
And a lot of the responses were Oprah's, Michelle Obama's, of course, Kamala Harris, all
three black women.
And I think that's, it's, that says a lot about, about where we're at.
No, not, not, not any of these folks were necessarily Republicans or, or Megas, but
I would like to know the Megas, what was your favorite speech?
What was your, what was your least favorite speech?
Love to have that conversation to 844-967-2789.
We'll get to some of the DNC reviews and conversations on topics there in the four and five o'clock
hour.
But locally here, we got to start out here because of course we didn't have the show
on Friday and all my medicine friends out there.
I know in Milwaukee, I know you're going nuts.
This J Weber situation, we'll call it the J Weber situation, I, you know, it's like
the Bonnie situation in, in, in Pulp Fiction, but we're going to call it the J Weber situation.
And what is the J Weber situation?
Well, to recap, because it's been a few days and it was been a long hot weekend and maybe
some of you may have forgotten, because this is an ongoing conversation and ongoing issue
in ongoing problem.
J Weber is the host in the mornings over at 1130 WISN in Milwaukee.
This is the top rated radio station in Wisconsin, we got a 13 share, and he pulls the bulk
of that.
I think he's six to nine in the morning.
J Weber went out after Tim Walls acknowledged his family and said some really terrible things.
And I'll recap this just a little bit for specifically from reporting over at the Milwaukee
General Central Mary Spakusa.
Now, what did, what did the star of I heart WISN 1130 AM, now it does not relate to the
WISN television just for the record, but what did, what did he say, why is everyone so
mad?
Well, after Gus Walls, who has ADHD and anxiety disorder and nonverbal learning disorder sprung
up from his seat and said, I love you, dad, that's my dad, I mean, what a wonderful moment
to most of us, to some of us, but not, not, not to Jay, not to the folks over at I heart
WISN 1130 AM Milwaukee as Jay's employee of theirs and the representative and the star
holster on that network, he wrote his post on the Twitter ex, quote, sorry, but this
was a bearing for both father and son.
If the walls is represent today's American man, this country is screwed.
And then in parentheticals, he writes, as if he's talking like governor walls, meet my son,
Gus, he's a blubbering bitch boy, his mother and I are very proud, unquote.
The first reaction to Jay Weber over at I heart was to criticize what Gus for expressing
love and support for his father.
That's a problem to Jay Weber and I heart expressing feelings and love for one's family
is weakness, it's weakness, you're weak if you act like that.
You know, we do a whole nother show on what that really means, all this toxic masculinity
thing.
Well, let's stay on focus here.
Now, he got, he received obviously every criticism, some people saying he was fired.
So he, he deleted the initial post and then put another one out.
I didn't realize the kid was disabled.
And I believe he said you took the post down on Friday, again, this was a Thursday of
last week, Friday, hey, there's a filling host on the Jay Weber show and I heart 1130
WIS and Milwaukee, a fill in host.
Now the host Benjamin Yant said Weber's absence was scheduled ahead of time.
Yeah, it's in Thursday night.
Dude, you're not going to now technically that's, that's, you know, true, that's scheduled
ahead of time.
I guess that makes sense.
I mean, I don't know maybe there was a vacation planned, but it seems kind of questionable
to me because the fill in host Benjamin Yant and I heart 1130 WISN said, Jay will be
back on Monday.
Oh, Jay will be back on to today's Monday and we know what I did today.
I don't usually crudies on on the righty whitey talk radios for bailants pride job.
That's his thing, man.
I don't do that.
But I did plug in today, jumped in this morning, no, Jay Weber, no, Jay Weber.
So the fill in host, you just told us last week that this was scheduled ahead of time and
a jail be back on Monday was wrong about Jay being back on Monday.
So I wonder if he's wrong about this being scheduled ahead of time.
You know, I'm saying because again, credibility matters, folks.
If you say two, two statements and one of them ends up being absolutely wrong and incorrect
and false, isn't it our obligation to question whether the first statement itself is accurate?
I know.
See, I mean, you go down all these rabbit holes.
And then he said on Friday, Weber, Jay Weber now on Friday, another apology.
Let's see what this one said because the first one wasn't an apology.
It was a, I want to, I won't even say the word, but it was he's disabled, my bad, but
it gets better.
Here's what he said Friday.
I said it without thinking or having the facts, no excuses.
Having been a teacher, I had a standard of never involving children.
I broke that and I'm disappointed with myself.
He added, I apologize to the wall's family and anyone who was offended.
I feel horrible.
I am so sorry.
Okay, that's an apology.
I apologize to the wall's family and anyone who was offended, I feel horrible.
I am so sorry.
Cool, Jay, I heard Jay will call him the Jay, Jay Weber situation, but I'm just curious.
Like if I have in front of me, what are you sorry for?
Why are you apologizing?
What, what, what part of your statement do you feel bad about?
What are you so very sorry about?
I'm just curious is the acknowledging his white toxic masculinity because apparently crying
and showing emotion and loving your father and your family is weakness?
Is that what you're apologizing for?
Or you're apologizing because you didn't know the kid had disabilities, quote unquote,
as you mentioned.
Is it your categorization and your representation of the young man's challenges?
Is that, is that what you're sorry for?
I'm not clear exactly what you're sorry for because I'm going to assume you're sorry
that people got mad and started calling up and your management and probably your advertisers
and expressing their dismay with your articulation of the subject matter.
Now, as Bakusa goes on to write at the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, some after the apology,
some folks responded with screenshots of previous Weber posts, boo, but wait, there's
more.
I love journalists because you know, I thought the same thing.
Well, what else is this guy said, you know, about kids, like, you know, political kids?
Well, here's what Bakusa said.
Screenshots of previous Weber posts targeting Malia Obama, the daughter of former president
Brock Obama and first lady Michelle Obama.
In 2016, he referenced her who was 18 at the time, twerking in the video.
She was twerking, according to Jay Weber, but she's 18.
I mean, maybe you know, as an adult, that's acceptable in Jay's world.
I'm not sure.
There's any apology for that from a lady dancing.
Another one here though, a post from 2015, he shared an article about someone who offered
50 cows 70 sheep and 30 ghosts to marry Malia saying, it's not a bad deal.
He was six, she, the Obama child was 16 years old at the time.
So there's a trend of this guy attacking political rivals, children dating back to 2015.
And now he's sorry about this one.
I got some more thoughts on this topic.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on this topic.
Again, Jay Weber, I hired radio, 1130 AMWISN, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, number one radio station
in the market, pulling a 13 share.
He's really, really sorry.
He got caught.
He's really, really sorry that you're offending, because I'm not clear what he's sorry about.
I got some more thoughts on this one here.
Your thoughts as well.
844-967-2789.
Does I heart putting this guy, pulling him or Friday and Monday?
Does that mean anything?
If he's fired, if he remains employed, what does that mean?
Let's talk about that.
844-967-2789.
The devil's advocates may not agree on much, but funny is funny.
Welcome back to the devil's advocates radio show, phone lines open, 844-967-2789, talking about
the Jay Weber situation here in Wisconsin conservative radio, what he talked, radio
hall is talking some serious trash, yet again, about minors of his political adversaries,
I guess you've called.
I don't want to say.
He was pulled from the air on Friday, who was not on the air today, despite the musings
of his replacement last week, who said that Jay would be back on Monday, and I just wonder,
is if there's already been some minor consequence to this behavior, by I heart, obviously, evidence
by the fact Jay Weber was not on the air on Friday and not on the air on Monday.
How is that a suspension, is that a firing, is there into go-shitting terms of his retirement?
All fair questions, apparently, we don't know the answers to them yet, as Mary Spakusa
in the General Sentinel wrote that, I heart has not responded to a request for information
from the General Sentinel.
But here's my overarching thought on this, if this ends up as something more than just
a couple of days' suspension, if this ends up as the firing, which I'm in the industry.
If I say some stupid things, there's a consequence to it.
People can get pulled off the air, yeah, because you represent the radio station and the
ownership group.
At the end of the day, we're an independent product in civic media, but if I went out
and did some terrible stupid things like that, they have the right to do what they need
to do to protect their brand.
And if I heart feels like this kind of behavior is a detriment to their brand, because why?
Because maybe they have a little bit higher expectation of civility.
Maybe we bottomed out.
Maybe it's been evident and clear, especially the contrast we've seen between the Republican
mega candidates, let's just say mega, because the Republican Party, the mega's put a cigarette
out on the Republican Party.
I mean, that thing is dead.
And the language of the general language of the DNC and the Democrats, again, this is
not to say that there's not crap talking going out all the time.
And I'm certainly doing my fair share of it, but certainly don't attack children expressing
love of all the things in the world to be super critical of all your taxes.
So too high, you know what I mean, we don't want the important, I mean, there's lots of
things you can have disagreement on.
How is it now?
What is it about the expression of love for family that that's the hill you're going to
die on?
Well, of course, it shouldn't be, but there should be a level, an expectation of civility.
What do we talk about?
I always, I'm least flabbergasted the fact that I got to talk about character and values.
Some of my old menus and my mother and father, both of them, the character you go out here,
they represent this family, oh, man, they got really mad when I did some stupid things.
Oh, okay, I get it, I got kids, I totally understand that.
So there's, there's character and values and if these things do matter than those that
lack the character, those that lack the values that you prescribe to as an organization,
then if, if you don't deal with it, if there are not consequences, I'm not talking
mind your consequences, get pulled for a couple of days, if there's aren't real consequences
from these organizations to those, their staff members who behave in this manner, you
know, it's like anything else, it's going to continue to happen.
Why would anybody change?
He got a bunch, he got a bunch of collects.
I think his apology, Jay Weber, the Jay Weber situation, when he put that out on Twitter
and I don't have it in front of me, but I'm pretty sure the apology went like two over
two million views.
So hey, man, he's going viral, right?
Those sorts of things is bad press, right?
I heart, I heart, you know, so when Crudey and I first started, we worked at I heart,
you know, from affectionately called him heartless radio over in the Madison, 92 on the
mic, and also as an independent product.
But if we crap the bed on the air, they had every right to pull us and something like
this, if you think of your attacking minors in that way for those things, I mean, it's
I don't know what would be worse.
And again, a contrast here, one of my favorite speeches, I think probably my second favorite
speech, other than Kamala Harris's speech, was former first lady Michelle Obama, here's
what she said, according to Mary Spacuzzi at the general set, no.
I was touched to see Gus Wells' joy when his dad Tim Wells took the stage last night.
Thankful for you showing us all what real love looks like, Gus, let's be a nation that
embraces this kind of warmth and vulnerability, instead of making fun or mocking it, we could
all use some of Gus's example in our own lives, oh, yes, what a perfect reaction to that.
And Jay Weber, if you had reacted like that, if you had seen the appreciation and think
that this is what love looks like, and maybe you don't know what love looks like, Jay,
I don't know, but that kind of love and affection is real between a family, and you mock
it like that, and look at the words that came out of your mouth, your Twitter, and look
what Michelle Obama said, at which one, what of those responses to the very same situation?
Do you think is more uplifting, has shows more character, shows higher value?
You know what I'm saying? So if I heart, does the right thing, is the right thing getting rid
of his ass? Let's not forget, he was doing this kind of thing back in 26th, 2015,
and they're talking about selling off Obama's minor child, who was like 15, 16 at the time,
for goats and cows and chickens, and Jay Weber said, hey, that's not a bad deal. What do you
negotiate? And so I'm just wondering, what is a bad deal to buy a 16 year old? Is it 50
cows, 80 chickens? Or maybe it's 100 cows, is that too much? I'm just wondering if that's not a bad
deal, Jay Weber, what is a bad deal? And since those cows and chickens and livestock ultimately
translate into dollars, well, then let's put it out there, Jay, what's the good price, cash-wise,
American dollars, you know, not just chicken and cows, for a former president's 16 year old daughter.
10 grand? 20, and let's just throw it out there, Jay, I'm an open invitation, tell me what's
not a good deal to buy a child. 844-967-2789. Well, we got some callers on, but you know what,
we got to go to break it a little bit, so callers, be patient, we will get you. I do want to know
what you have to say, because this drives me nuts. These guys, they own the market, you know, they
talk all sorts of trash. They're in the same industry, I am, and I am just a fennel, and I say
some crazy things, and I'm offended by this, this reaction, man. I can't, and even other Republicans
were, as well, Craig Peterson was watching, his long-time Republican operative watching Waltz's
reaction made of him think of his son Hunter, who has Down syndrome. He called Weber immediately
after seeing the post. As soon as I saw it, I called the station, left a message for him and just
said, you know, you should really apologize to all of us who have kids with special needs,
because that could have been my son. Last night, as I'm watching, the all I can think of is that's
my son. Peterson added, I love how the Waltz's referred to his disability as a superpower,
which is cool. I'm going to start using that with Hunter. Yeah, apparently even some Republicans
were offended by the J Weber situation. Eight, four, four, nine, six party, we'll be right back.
The devil's advocates, tackling the issues you're not allowed to talk about at the dinner table.
I'll come back to the devil's advocate radio show. I'm going to go to the phone lines here at eight,
four, four, nine, six, seven, two, seven, eight, nine, colors, be patient, ritual, screen every single.
One of you, we will get you on the air. One of your opinions is J Weber situation. This I heart
superstar out of Milwaukee, Wisconsin owns the airways of 13 share talking smack about Gus
walls. Eight, four, four, nine, six party. He's been off the air on Friday. He's been off the air
on Monday. What do you think should happen? What are your thoughts? How does it make you feel?
Let's go Paul. Happy Monday, Paulie. What do you got for us?
Hey, thanks for my call. First of all, on a high note, thank you. I thank you and
Cody for going down to Chicago. I was great coverage. You got a lot of local feel of it,
which is really great. And I applaud both of you for being down there and covering that.
Yeah, it had to be an awesome convention. I'm keepers. And some of the speeches were just off
the scale. Okay, you brought up Paulie. Let me ask you. What were your favorite speeches?
Like what struck you the most? What stuck with you after the convention concluded?
I would say, well, because I'm a big fan of Bill Clinton, but when you look at Michelle Obama
and all the trash talking that has been done about her, that's, that lady is off the scale. I mean,
it's just, I don't know what you saw that down, but I mean, that's moving. And I'm not really,
a guy that shed the tear, but why can you start listening to some of this stuff after you know
what she's been to? She's the one that started when they go low, we go high. So she took a lot of
criticism in eight years there, but her speech was, I don't know. I can't remember one that's
much better than that. So that was my speech of the year convention. Hey, I'll, but anyway,
address the, how about the J Weber situation, Paulie? Yeah, as far as I'm concerned,
he should never be behind the microphone again, but when you're pulling poll ratings,
you know, if this was the first thing he's ever done, yeah, you know, but he never really
apologized. I have a good friend that has a special needs child. And when I don't think you
can go any lower and I've talked to him and he certainly is not happy about the situation,
because I don't know how to go there with this. It's not an easy thing to raise a special
needs child to begin with. I don't think, of course, I'm not in a situation, but I don't think
he can go any lower than that, Dom. And I'm going to tell you what. And I believe this that if you
include or anybody on your station would have made comments just this time, you'd be off the air.
And I thought it's acidic. In fact, I feel acidic when you guys would be off the air period.
I mean, I don't think that, you know, because that's about as well as you couldn't go. And if this
was the first time it would be one thing, but he said many, many other things. I mean, it's just,
the list is pretty long and I don't want to say anything that he actually didn't do. But anyway,
if I let him go back on the air, then there's something wrong there. So I hate to see anybody
lose their job. But again, this is as long as you can go. And to my knowledge, I can't remember,
I don't remember people taking Republican kids to task like that. I just can't, at least
center, left, radio. So anyway, hey, you guys are cool. So thanks, Tom.
Cool, Paulie. Thanks, man. Appreciate you listening. You know, I think Clinton's daughter,
I guess Clinton would have been the dem. Yeah, I don't know that the, you know, the Bush girls got
get any sort of grief. Yeah, that's a great observation, Paul. I mean, there's always someone
out there, right? And the technology's gotten better over the last couple of decades better in
that you can put out for the universe's consumption, all sorts of crazy stuff. But also,
I think it shows a little, to some degree, privilege behind the mic, you know, I,
when Kurt and I first started doing this thing like 13 years ago, we were just trying to have
some fun and bicker with each other back and forth. But I quickly realized, you know, there is,
there's a, there's a responsibility when you're talking to the mic and you're talking behind
this microphone, there's people listening, you're going to talk about, you know, issues that
matter to people, whatever your, whatever your topic may be, you have a responsibility not only
to yourself, but certainly to your audience and certainly to the, the platform that allows, allows
the speech to be, you know, this is that free speech, you know, they're saying, if I want to stay
these same things, I want to go get a soap box and stand out in the park and the old clouds,
you know, I can do that. This is, I don't have a right. Nobody has a right, a right,
a constitutional right to call into a radio show, to host a radio show, to have their letter to
the editor printed. No one has those rights. And I think the privilege, perhaps to the J Weber
situation, you know, gets to his head a little bit. Mom, he didn't say it on the air, he just
said it in the social media. You know what I mean? I've probably got a whole lot more reach
than his radio show does, even though it's Paul in the 13th share from my heart here in Milwaukee.
Wisconsin. So I perhaps there's a combination of things. I appreciate every day and take
seriously, generally, the responsibility of being truthful and now being truthful,
try to be a little funny and being up on the topics, man, you know, if I had some of the
callers calling some very topics, when we first started out, I'm like, uh, who, what, where,
you know, you find out real quick, where the audience, where their heads are at. So,
you know, you try to be prepared, try to have a sense of, now's what you're talking about.
You know, and being responsible to yourself, to your partner, to crew, to, to, to, to, to,
to reach to everyone, man, you know, those things matter to me. Maybe they don't matter to J Weber,
maybe they don't matter to I heart. I would hope they do. I hope we, I hope we hit the bottom.
I mean, as it's not just, you know, an individual troll with four followers, you know, leave
a stuff on your Facebook page. I mean, this guy represents I heart. 13th share in Milwaukee. This
is a big reach. And is this, is this your leader? Is this who you want to represent you?
Because right now he does. And if he comes back on Tuesday, comes back on Wednesday, he will
continue to do so. 844-967-2789, Joe from Madison, you're up. Welcome, Joe. What do you got for us?
Well, I echo the sentiments of, um, probably previously. And I just, I think that
the arrogance of this man that he presumes, um, he will never be touched by such tragedy.
I, you know, maybe he has a special needs child in his family, in which case, um, I find that
even more appalling. But anyone can have a special needs relative. In a second, all it takes is
a car accident, a bike accident. Oh, wait, a shooting in a mall and all of a sudden you are dealing
with a situation where, um, your relative is, is having a real tough time getting around and
deserves sympathy and care and compassion and not being ridiculed in that way. What I find interesting
is the comment that this is not just a one-off. I mean, the comments that he made about Malia, um,
Obama, I mean, he's talking about slavery, right? He's talking about buying a slave, a woman's
slave. And he still has his job. I am amazed. And I'd be interested in your reaction to this,
Cody, because I mean, it's not only the station, um, it is the advertisers. Do the advertisers want to
be associated with this kind of garbage? I mean, surely within the realm of, of the advertisers,
there must be author to people who have in their family, someone who's bearing this kind of burden.
And to think it's not just, you know, at birth, I mean, my extended family, we have a young woman
who, um, was fine until age five. She got a very bad viral infection that left her damage,
neurologically damaged and has been a lifelong struggle for her family. Financial, emotional,
you know, the couple split up. It was brutal. It's really, really hard. And for this little arrogant
guy to pull this off. And, you know, if you do something like this, man, you ought to be on
air the next day saying, I apologize. I really apologize. Let's have a show where we can talk about
how I screwed up so bad. And we know what could be done better, because his just hiding like this,
he should not be back on the air. I mean, if this is what I heart wants to represent them,
don't you think that they're, they're going to be bearing this for a long time, because you're
going to have mothers and fathers and sisters and brothers of people who are, uh, relatives and
people who are in this situation that continue to say, I'm not supporting I heart if this is who
they keep on air. Who cares if he has a big share? He's a, he's a icky, awful man. You know, at a
certain point, do the advertisers want to be associated with this? I'd be interested in your reaction
Cody. Excuse me, Don, pardon me. Uh, Joe, uh, you know, that, that, that's certainly the thing.
Well, the advertisers are buying the share, right? That, that's what's important to them. There's
a lot of people listening to it. Uh, but once, once it bubbles up, once you find out, certainly
some of those folks could, could have a problem with it. I don't know how you couldn't. Uh, Joe,
but what, what, what, what, what you thought? You heard me read the apology, the actual apology,
he said, you actually said he was sorry, and he feels terrible. And there, there was an actual,
by the third, maybe the third, maybe the fourth quote from Jay Weber, there was an actual apology.
But do you know what he's apologizing for? No, no, and it's just, I mean, do you think that, I mean,
do you think that's relevant? It's just a general, hey, I'm sorry for, or should we just say
as I mentioned, what are you apologizing for? What, what level of disgusting action that you took
in such mindless statements? Are you apologizing for? It's almost, it's almost not enough for me, Joe.
Yeah, I think you need to say, I mean, three, three, four short sentences. What I said was cruel and
awful and indefensible. I owe the family a huge apology. I owe our community, our huge apology.
I owe our advertisers in the station of huge apology. If they can't find it in their hearts to forgive
me, I understand. But it is important for me to make this statement that what I said was
indefensible. There's no excuse for it. And the fact that he doesn't eat just like garbage human
being and it's kind of say goodbye to garbage human beings. You know what I mean? Isn't it time to
see? Yeah, I hear you, Joe. Absolutely. Hey, thank you so much. I always love to hear from you, Joe,
844-967-2789. Oh, man, is this a canary into coal mine? Is my expectation in my two,
thinking too much that maybe, maybe, some folks are done with the roll around in the mud kind of
thing, just for some clicks and for some some listenership, 844-967-2789, civility, values,
character. As far as I know, conservatives used to think like those things were important.
Gary's from Sussex. You're conservative. Welcome, man. What do you got for us?
Well, I didn't hear what he said, but he said something to me one time or actually,
he didn't say it to me, but he was talking about people who adopt kids that they're all messed up.
Well, I do have an adopted daughter that I adopted as an infant and I feel blessed that God gave us
our little girl. And he said on the air, well, all adopted kids are all screwed up and messed up.
Well, that really hurt. And I stopped listening to him for many years and then I started listening
again, but when I, he does say things. Now, in defense, he did say, sorry, and I think he'll still be
sure. You know what he's sorry for Gary, you know what I mean? Is he sorry for mocking the
that got caught? Well, thank you. That's not really, that's not really an apology, is it?
And like, is he sorry that you mock the public showing of love and affection between a son and
his father? Is that what you're sorry for? Are you sorry for calling the kid disabled and dismissing
him in that regard? What exactly is the apology for? Yeah, I have a very, very good friend that
their son has autism. And when I saw Tim's wall son going, you know, clapping like crazy and
stuff like that, it just kind of brought back memories to the friend that I have with his son.
And, you know, when you're born, it's certainly not the child's fault that he has autism and,
you know, nobody knows what causes it. Sure. And if you're, you know, Jay Weber could be writing his
bike down the trail and hit a rock and fall over and hit his head and being a very similar mental
situation. You know what I mean? So it's not just whether you're born at that man, you can get,
you can get things and things can happen. Actually, it's happened. I mean, at the end of the day, Gary,
you know, we're all susceptible to this humanity. When, when are we doing dinner? I owe you
dinner. All right, man. I want to, I want to, I want to get, I want to write your number down right
now, man. I'll text you after the show. Gary, real quick, before I run out of time,
did you watch any of the DNC and the Japanese speeches that you loved or hated?
Well, this is, this is, I started drinking the water and then I started throwing up. So,
but my wife drank the Kool-Aid. I mean, she drank the Kool-Aid and I was sipping on it and I started
throwing up. But the next day we talked and she said, well, you know, they do make sense. I had a
deep programmer for a couple days, but she's back. Any particular speech that you thought was
over the top or totally lacking? No, I, I, I thought that they're all good. And I did watch four
years ago with, uh, or actually eight years ago with Hillary. And I, I, I enjoy watching both sides,
because you know me, I'd like to listen to both sides. How about, how do I put out Adam Kinzinger,
uh, 30 seconds, Gary, Adam Kinzinger saying, you know, Democrats are patriotic too. I thought
that, that was valuable. Yeah, but you know what? He's, he's no different than Cheney and some of the
other ones that left, uh, you know, uh, Republican Party and they're off to, uh, Gary, the Republican
Party left them. Apparently, you know, they're not down with the insurrection. Thank you, Gary.
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there next. eight four f four nine six seven two seven eight nine. That's an appropriate
seven two seven eight nine. Now that's an appropriate song rich, you know, we can only
hope. Now did I, not rich, if I may, because if you text me, that you, you know, Jay
Weber, right? Well, we worked together many, many years ago. And I never detected this type
of streak in his, in his soul back then, but I guess things were required as partisan and wicked
and evil, then as they are now, was that some kind of a role producer, uh, show host kind
of role? Uh, no, he was, uh, he was just a straight news reporter.
Is this a news reporter? Yes. Back in the days when radio stations had, uh, news departments
staffed for more than three hours. And, uh, when, uh, you know, 10, 3, 11 o'clock
world around now, we were on a bar stool. And we'll just kind of leave it there. I understand.
Yeah. But you didn't see this kind of thing. You didn't hear this kind of thing. I mean,
back then, not then, not them. That's, this is not the guy that I knew once upon a time.
But then again, you know, that's 30 plus years ago. So that can change. Well, you know,
I'd like to think I changed for the better band. I mean, I try to become, you know, more
knowledgeable, more empathetic, you know, more understanding, more chill, you know, not
react like a 12 year old man, baby, uh, to situations that make me uncomfortable. I must
say I shake my head when I shook my head when I heard it. I said, my, uh, what in the
world? But again, we're talking about the, uh, the J Weber situation. Here's what he wrote.
Sorry, but this is embarrassing for both father and son. If the walls is represented
today's American man, this country is screwed. And I'm just curious, uh, Weber, do, do you
serve represent today's American man? And what is today's American man? Maybe we should
have a conversation about that eight, four, four, nine, six, seven, two, seven, eight,
nine, I am today's American man. Dick from Madison, you are the next man in the queue.
Welcome, sir, what do you got for us? Hello, hello, Dick. Hey, real quick, um, would
you expect anything different with the guy that he's advocating for for crying out loud?
I mean, no, I think that's part of the problem, right? This, you know, the guy's advocating
for, you know, endorses this, this, this kind of behavior, this kind of attitude, right?
He gives, Trump gives permission for all of these things because he does it.
We Trump was mocking the disabled reporter back in the day before he got elected.
Trump was mocking John Cain. You know, I mean, all these things, no, he, that this is certainly,
I mean, words matter, leadership matters, character matters, value matters, and you see how
that translates and let's call it trickles down. You know, there's any trickle down from
those Republicans. It's, it's the slot coming out of their mouth, uh, during, during the
Trump years. Okay, he asked about speeches. I like all, I know that sounds crazy, but
Oh, come on. It's like, it's like, what? Sarah Paylon reads all the newspapers. Top
reading. Very brief. Right. Well, no, I'm going to give you what I've seen of the whole
thing. Okay. A very obscure person appeared, uh, a lady who worked in the Trump administration
in some capacity. Now, she didn't speak, but she was on between speakers. And she talked
about how awful this guy talks about everybody like a dog behind closed doors. Oh, yeah.
And okay. So it came to mind. Okay. And she said the main thing is that these people,
Omega's just cannot bring themselves to say they were wrong about something that I analyzed
myself. I did the same thing in all four. Dude, I was so down with, with, uh, carry and
Edwards. And then when you found out what Edwards was about, I didn't like anything about
it, but, you know, it was hard for me to swallow. And I had to swallow it. But, um, the other
thing, I'm the, I'm the Trump thing with the children. I mean, I think I told you guys
last week, he was trying to get Baron out there at their convention and use them as a prop
for current out loud. And then, you know, I think Melania came to his rescue and stopped
that from happening, thankfully, but this whole election to me, uh, Dominic is this. It's
almost a referendum or a trial of us, us. And whether we're going to elect somebody
like that again, who's a 34 time convicted felon and all the things he's about, are we
going to do the right thing? It's a referendum or a vote or you could call it any of the
above on us as a country. Yeah, Jack started because of short. I want to keep going on
the lines. It certainly is. We, you know, in some regards, always say, we get the government
that we deserve. And unfortunately, you know, he clicked and got the popular vote, Trump
got the electoral vote. We didn't give what we deserved, necessarily not by it, not in
that, that stance. Uh, but I, I, I grew through 100%. Thanks for the call. Andrew, let's sneak
you in from Motown. Welcome, Andrew. What do you got?
Hey, Devils, I did not know who this conversation was, but I did not hear what he said. I know
it was awful, whatever it was. I think one of the biggest problems for our site now is
letting these morons take space in our heads, red freight. We need to stop listening wherever
this nonsense is coming from. I think we should only be listening to shows like yours,
aggressive radio shows, the rest of it. If we are like myself, where I go around the
dial trying to hear something, it's for comedy sake only. They cannot take that space in
my head. The space in my head is Paris and Walt. That's it. That's it. The rest of it
is comedy stupidity. It makes no sense. And they are just looking every time somebody comments
on what stupid thing they say they have. Sorry, got to cut your sword, Andrew. Amen. But
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