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And now here's your host, Dom and Krut.

Welcome to the devil's advocates radio show.

Those listening outside the great state of Wisconsin, I shouldn't form you.

Yesterday was a partisan primary right here in our great state.

So a little hangover today, a little partisan primary hangover.

But Dom, I am feeling great about the outcomes for the blue

team and the constitutional amendments, these referendums, these

efforts to hamstring the governor, make it harder to allocate federal funds

in time of emergency need.

Think pandemics, well, they were defeated last night by the voters, Dom,

the AP called this race at 9.11 p.m., the margin on both referendum

questions defeated 58 to 42.

Wow.

And right wing talk radio in the state of Wisconsin.

Is it morning?

Oh, they're in the Republican party.

Isn't this a rate?

They've lost their mojo according to your girl, Ficky McKenna.

And as I mentioned, Dom, her misery is my glee.

So I'm feeling damn good today, drinking up those conservative tears.

They make me stronger.

They make me better.

So good.

And here's the other interesting point earlier.

And I think he might be done now.

And don't worry, we're not going to force feed anyone any Trump broccoli

today.

Don't be no Trump.

No cheese, no broccoli, no CJ.

Not today, not today, not feel too damn good today.

But Trump did a little rally in Asheville, North Carolina.

And my wife's going to spend some time in Asheville, Dom.

She has affinity for that part of the nation.

That was a beautiful part of the country.

Western North Carolina, very liberal part of the state, though.

But a hundred thousand, the population there and Trump decided he was going

to go speak there today at a rally that had a maximum capacity.

According to the Asheville citizen times, a maximum capacity at the Thomas

Wolf auditorium of 2431 people, less than 2500 people.

Wow, big crowd.

As it was pointed out by explore Asheville.com, that's about a quarter of the

capacity of the arena where Trump spoke in 2016.

Trump had 25% of his prior crowd, max capacity.

And during comments in Florida on Wednesday, that was earlier today,

Trump continued to insist, you have the largest crowds.

I've larger crowds than the Democratic presidential nominee, Kamala Harris.

We have the biggest crowds ever in the history of politics.

The former president told reporters, apparently earlier today,

damn, we have crowds that nobody's ever seen before.

And we continue to have that.

And we have a level of enthusiasm that nobody's seen before.

You keep saying it, thinking, hoping, praying that it's true,

just because you say it, even if you say it with confidence,

it doesn't make it factually reality true.

If you had Melania at home, understand he's judging enthusiasm on a sliding scale.

The people out there love that relative to what he gets at home in the bedroom,

I suspect, but I'm feeling damn good about today,

and I'm feeling really good about this fine show because we got fine guests coming up.

We are stacked. We've got Wisconsin, third congressional CD candidate,

the new Democratic nominee, Rebecca Cook.

She's going to join us in like 15 minutes down, 10 minutes.

Rebecca Cook joining us about 420.

And then, Dr. Kristen Leierley, she is the candidate in Wisconsin's 8th CD.

And I've also reached out to Peter Barker today.

He ran unopposed in the first, and he is the first CD candidate.

But here in this state of Wisconsin, we have three really good candidates

with really good shots at winning congressional districts, competitive districts.

The third, Rebecca Cook, 420, the eighth, Kristen Leierley coming at 430,

and we'll have to get Peter on the board sometime soon.

And he is in the first CD, south of Milwaukee,

we're seeing Kenosha area.

So we could have a changing of evolving bluer congressional map.

I mean, right now, we've got eight congressional districts in the state of Wisconsin.

We've got two Democratic representatives,

mine, Mark Polkin, and one more.

One more, yeah.

We need more.

And so Trump's out there, Barnstorm and liberal Asheville,

Western North Carolina, where he's at a max capacity of 2,400.

And JD Vance is in Michigan today speaking to 200 plastic chairs,

some of which are vacant.

And the vice president, Kamala Harris, now the Democratic nominee,

or at least we'll be after next week, she's coming to Milwaukee next week Tuesday

at the Pfizer forum, which holds about 18,000 people for concerts.

We'll see if she can pack it in.

I bet we'll feel like a concert next Tuesday.

I encourage all of you.

If you are dem supporters, if you've even given them 20 bucks in the past,

I bet you're going to get an invitation to go see Kamala in Milwaukee.

I'm going to do my best to attend.

We will bring you coverage as we're able, but we are bringing the week down the show,

traveling to Chicago next week for the DNC.

In Monday night, well Monday nights, Joe Biden's big night,

the fanfare well for President Joe Biden, honor, respect,

and then turn the page.

That's what I think the plan is.

But Tuesday, I think Kamala is being brilliant, involving Milwaukee in this DNC,

bringing the party what 90 minutes away from the United Center in Chicago.

So if I can make the drive and the timing works, I'll be there.

But Tuesday, Kamala is bringing the party to Milwaukee, while the DNC is going on in Chicago.

And Tuesday night, we'll bring you all the fine coverage right here on civic media,

beginning at seven o'clock.

And then Wednesday, that's Vice President Walsh's day at the DNC Dom.

And then Thursday night, well, that's Kamala's night.

And she will see the balloons drop and we will bring you there.

We will bring you all the coverage you need from Chicago next week right here on civic media on

KTNF 9.50 AM in Minneapolis and on WCPT 8.20 AM in the host city of Chicago.

I've never felt so good to go to Chicago.

Real slip most of the time, it's in regards to legal weed.

But you know, right? Love Chicago 844-967-2789.

Let's get some callers in before our guest Rebecca Cook from Wisconsin's third CD joins us

at 4.20 Cindy from Appleton. Welcome Cindy. What do you got for Cindy?

Hello, I hate to burst your bubble too much.

But Tony weed and Eric Hubby, the Trump and Dorf candidates, both one of the primaries up in my

area last night, which gives me a little pause because I was hoping that they would be defeated

by big numbers. You're an out of gaming county.

And well, but understand there wasn't a direct competition between a democratic rival

and Tony weed. Kristen Lierley, your candidate, the one that could

represent you and out of gaming county in the 8 CD, she's joining us at 4.30 today.

You're going to be incredibly impressed by Kristen Lierley, but that wasn't a head-to-head

matchup. And I would say, wait till this fall, I've never been so optimistic. If it was Mike

Galliker, I'd be having a different conversation. But the fact that Tony weed, this Trump endorsed

extremist who's got nothing going for him except the fact he's rich, if that's his claim to fame

and all the extremism of Trump and he's going to have to defend every crazy thing Trump says

throughout the electric cycle. And then you've got one of the most compelling Democrats I've ever

met. You're going to have a new representative this fall. I think it's going to be Kristen Lierley.

Well, I hope you're right, but like I said, I was kind of hoping that the Trump stuff had kind of

fallen from grace, but apparently it hasn't. Well, Cindy, but again, though, you got Roth and

you had Andre Jacques and you got weed. I mean, these all these guys, especially weed,

of course, thing he says is Trump indoors. Oh, everyone wants to be Trump. Everyone wants to be

Trump up there. So certainly the guy that Trump endorsed weed, he got it. He'll go against Lierley.

But it's not like Andre Jacques or Roth. We're not Trump supportive.

Cindy, let me give you a little encouragement. Eric Hunvey got like 475,000 votes last night.

Tammy Baldwin got closer to 600,000. Eric Hunvey only got 84% of 86% of the Republican votes.

Even if you added all of those votes on and we know Charles Barb and there were some mischievous

people that texted me yesterday. I voted no on both. They crossed over and I voted for that

barman guy. So you're welcome, Charles, our fine audience through a little weight and support

behind the guy. But they're not going to turn around and vote for Hunvey in the fall.

And I would say this math favors the Democrats in a big way. And that is certainly a red tilted

district up there in Green Bay. But if candidates matter, you got more than a fighting chance in

Kristin Lierley, 844, 967, 2789, our favorite passionate Wiscoe Paul. How you doing, Paul? Hey, Paul.

Hey, I'm not doing really good, especially you guys have pushed a no-no vote over the

finish line, which is just totally awesome. And I'm feeling really good about that because that says

a lot about where the state is. And Tammy's going to beat Hunvey. It's just a, that's, she's probably

going to beat him by 10 points. I want to say a little bit about Trump listening to him and watching

him. I hate to do that. But the man looks like he's circling the drain. Hey, I mean, you look old. I

mean, he, he, he, he, he's trying to look older than your Biden. So I, I don't even know if he's

going to make it until election day, boy, he just does not look good. And he's a cockroach. You'll

be fine, Wiscoe. But have no fear for Trump's health. I, I, I don't want anything to have to him

because I want to see him get beat and beat like a drum because I think Harris is going to take

him out big time. I mean, when I say that, she's going to win the election where he can't even

say it was, well, you'll say that anyway.

Wiscoe, appreciate your call. Yeah, Trump's going to claim it was rigged and claim. I mean,

he's claiming that Kamala Harris isn't drawing crowds. It's all AI. It's all fake. But you can go,

you can see with your own eyes. Go to the Pfizer form next Tuesday. See the future president of the

United States, feel the enthusiasm in the room. And tell yourself whether your eyes are lying to you

or whether maybe it's Trump, folks, we're the main advocates. I've been in those rooms. I've been

at those rock concert like political rallies. It's the real deal. Rebecca Cook, she's the real

deal and Wisconsin's third. The Democrats choice. Last night, she joins us next. Stick around more

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Tom, we got to find guests right now, though. She won a big primary in Wisconsin's third CD.

She is the Democratic representative running against Derek Van Orden or Drunky Van Orden,

as I like to call him, but Rebecca Cook, I'm not going to say you shocked the world less thing,

because I was not shocked at all. We've met more than once. We've had you on the show a handful

of times. I've been quite impressed by your candidacy. Again, congratulations. How does it feel

to be the Democratic nominee? Thank you. I've been kind of on cloud nine today. I'm really

honestly really humbled and I'm really grateful and I'm really motivated. I mean, we

hit the ground running this morning today, you know, while we're saying, you know, goodbye to the

primary and what that looks like today's day one of the general election. So, we have just got

our nose, the grindstone, and we've got 82 days until election day. So, we're already refocusing

our sights on the feeding Derek Van Orden. And where do you see him as being vulnerable?

Yeah, I mean, you know, we've got the kitchen sink to really throw at him. And I think, you know,

we've got, you know, like all campaigns do research teams, but he kind of has served that up on a

platter of many, many times, just his outbursts in Congress, being at the South of Steele Rally,

heckling the president during the state of the Union. The list really goes on and I think that's

only going to build. I think it's the pressure of this campaign builds and his outbursts and his

temperament really comes down to his temperament. And I think that he lacks the temperament of what

we're looking for here in Western Wisconsin. So, it's his temperament. But then his policies are

just so out of touch with like what working families here need and want. And so I think there's

going to be a mix of things that we're going to be able to come at him with, but also just presenting

an alternative to voters of like, look, you know, here's someone that you can vote for like with me

that has lived a lot of the same experience as that you have has walked a mile in your shoes.

There's going to be an real advocate for working families and not just lip service, which is very

much with Derek Van Orden's done. So, Rebecca Cox, she is the Democratic nominee and the third

CD, stated Wisconsin. Rebecca, I contemplated maybe you had to lose one to win one. Meaning,

I think you're a better candidate now than two years ago when you ran for the same seat.

And I think there's been a maturation of your campaign. What lessons have you learned and how

are you doing a different? You know, I think that there is like some confidence that you build right

of doing something a second time. There's always things, mistakes that you make, things that you

focus on that, you know, we're not the right thing to focus on. And I've reflected a lot on that

and what we did in 2022, but like we also overperformed expectations in 2022. And nobody thought that

I was going to perform and do as well as I did. And so what that really told me was like also leaning

into who I am and like some of the authenticity that our campaign has always brought. And really

understanding and talking about issues that are relevant to the district. I mean, there's lots of

things that you can talk about on the campaign trail, Democratic values, Democratic issues, but

I've always leaned hard into the kitchen table issues. Like the things I'm hearing about people,

what's keeping them up at night, right? You know, Nackendora's in Verokua. I talked to this guy

who's like, you know, I have a pretty good job. We're like a middle class family, but I still feel

like something were to happen. Like, you know, we got in a car accident. Somebody got really sick.

Like, I don't know what we would do, right? Everybody feels like they're a little bit on the brink.

You know, conversations I've had with folks like this woman Megan, she's in one of my TV ads.

She's a conservative comes from a conservative community, but she's voting for me because of

my stance for reproductive freedoms and that I want to be in a doctor's office making decisions

for her and her family. And so, you know, I think that showing up and listening, leaning into

that kind of stuff and sharing those stories authentically, I think is important. And I think

that this kind of rural working class message has really connected with people.

Oh, cheerleaders, listen to the devil's evocates radio show Rebecca Cook, Democrat running for a

third congressional district of the state of Wisconsin. Good to see you again, Rebecca. Congratulations.

It was a competitive primary, although it might maybe indicate it by the final result.

And they got a little chippy. What's the process? What's it look like to bring all the

dams? All the dams are going to be needed and independence perhaps as well to come together as a

team to defeat Van Orden. What's that healing process look like to your Rebecca?

I think it's incredibly important for all of us to bury the hatchet. And, you know, I think it's

something that we talked about, frankly, throughout the campaign, that no matter what happened

in a primary, those things can get messy sometimes, that we were all committed to coming together

for unity to what really matters, which is flipping the seed. And so, that commitment remains

the same. And we have a unity tour that's launched in tomorrow, starting in Steven's point,

in Representative Shanklin's hometown, which she'll be at as well as Eric Wilson, my other

opponent. And we're all coming together for what we know is the right thing to do for families

in Western Wisconsin. And so, you know, it starts with this tour, but there's so much more of it

on the phone all day long, talking to people throughout the district and throughout the state,

and people that have supported at the national level as well. And just continuing to, I think,

trumpet what the real things are here that the people are concerned about, and like,

keeping all eyes on this race, right? Because we're going to need resources to be able to compete

against somebody like Derek Van Orden, which he has a war chest as we're coming out of this primary.

Rebecca, I saw you tweeted out last night. You celebrated at the restaurant where you

wait tables. I thought that was a wonderful, wonderful thing. I want to know what was it? What did

it feel like to do that? Did you get a free beer and does that count as a campaign contribution?

Yeah, it was very funny. It was very surreal to be there. Like, I was running dishes through the

dishwasher and stuff. And like, if you're cleaning it up, like, my boss has just let me use this

face. Like, it wasn't, we didn't have restaurant food. We had some pizzas and just like beers and

stuff that we brought in. But it was really surreal to be like, here I am, like, a farm cat,

a waitress at this restaurant. And I'm now the Democratic nominee for Congress.

Rebecca, that means you're going to need some money and some volunteers. How can people get involved

in the campaign? Heck yeah. Go to cookforwisconsinco.com. So cookforwisconsin.com. There's

donate button on there. There's a contact us volunteer button on there as well. So we're going

to need all hands on deck. This is going to be, we've got to be taking this all the way down

to November. And we're going to need every hand in this district and beyond to help us.

So Rebecca, Derek van Orden hasn't shown a lot of courage up until now. Never debated bread path.

Would you accept our invitation? We will host a debate on the airwaves, make it statewide,

all across the third. Would you show up if we also could get Derek van Orden to do so?

Oh, yeah. Anytime any place. Well, we'll offer him a beer and maybe we'll trick up.

Rebecca, cook. Good luck. Congratulations to you. Very excited for your campaign. Very excited

that you will soon be the Congressperson from the third CD. Let's make it happen.

Awesome. Appreciate it very much. Thanks so much to everybody.

Thank you, Rebecca. And bear audience. Stick around. We got another congressional candidate.

She is Dr. Kristen Liarly and OB-GYN. She's running in the 8 CD that's Green Bay, Wisconsin area.

You're going to want to stick around very impressive candidates, very impressive Dems.

That's what we bring you here. We say yes, Dom. Yes. We're feeling damn good today.

Yes. Yes. The word the day.

Charged, never convicted. The devil's advocates.

Welcome back to the devil's advocates radio show the Humpty edition a partisan primary hangover edition.

Want to thank our most recent guest, a fine one. Rebecca Cook running in Wisconsin's third CD.

Thank you. Rebecca and Dom were joined by another fine guest live via stream.

She is Dr. Kristen Liarly. She is the Democratic candidate in Wisconsin's 8 CD that's

the Green Bay area, the Door County area, up in those parts of the state. Dr. Liarly, welcome back.

Thanks, guys. You know, we're from Niagara down to the bottom of Appleton. We're from Washington,

Island to Whitonburg. We're urban. We're rural. We got it all in the 8 CD.

It is a great part of the state. And I love going there. And Kristen, I'm very optimistic about your

chances. And maybe you don't see all the tea leaves that I'm looking at. But if you'd ask me yesterday,

were these referendums, these constitutional referendums, were they going to pass out about

you money yesterday that they were going to pass because they always pass these low turnout,

partisan primary sort of elections. That's exactly why the Republicans put it on the ballot on August

13th. But Tammy Baldwin got 600,000 votes. And Hunby got 475,000 votes. Kristen, I think the tea

leaves are all blue. I'm feeling great. How are you feeling now? You've got an opponent.

I was feeling good before, but I'm feeling even better now. And we saw a great turnout

for the referendums up here. And you would think in the 8 CD this was an important primary

for our congressional districts, for our congressional districts. We had three different folks

who were running. So you would have thought that there would be a ton of Republican turnout.

But the referendums did not do well up here. And that, to me, is an example of how fired up

people are to save our democracy. They recognized how much this meant and how important it was

to get out and vote, even though it was only a primary, even though in the past, they might have

just let this one go. No, they were not going to give up on it. And in fact, one of the wards in

Green Bay ran out of ballots. And I am told they ran out of ballots because they had so many young

women coming into vote. You're not saying you're just saying. She's not saying, but that's what I've

been told. She's Dr. Kristen Lierley. She is the Democratic nominee and the 8 CD ran unopposed.

But now she's got competition. The Trump endorsed Tony weed. And if you could have picked an

opponent, I might have picked Andre Jacques for you for the contrast. He's such an extremist.

But weed's got his own extreme attitudes. How would you describe your opponent?

Well, here is how my opponent describes himself, Trump endorsed. And that's really important to him

because he puts it actually on the top of his yard signs. Before it even says his name,

it says Trump endorsed. The other thing is he's a conservative. And he is not a politician. He's an

outsider. Well, so am I. I'm really curious to see how he is going to get beyond these three

defining points that really have been the only things that he's talked about and start addressing

some of the problems that Wisconsinites are asking for help with. They're concerned about the

economy. Number one, this is a guy who owned gas stations, sold his gas stations, and then went

on a vacation for a year to think about what he wanted to do next. People in this district cannot

understand that because they're struggling to put gas in their cars. They're struggling to put

food on their tables. So he's out of touch with what people want to see with the type of leader

people are seeking. So we're going to see how he ends up defining himself. But I suspect that

it's going to be very difficult for him. Well, he self-funded in the primary to the tune of at least

a half million dollars. I thought I had seen from his disclosures. And I don't know how much

wealthy may have accumulated through selling off his gas stations or his daddy's gas stations.

But do you fear the financial hurdle that you're going to go up against? If this guy's got the

Trump endorsement and he's got his own money, how do you compete financially against that Christian?

Mike, I'm so glad you asked that question because he might have a couple of friends with the

pockets, but I have a whole heck of a lot of friends who are pitching in $40, $50. We've had over

35,000 individuals pitching in from across the country. We don't have very many big donors.

This is all people wanting to step up, doing what they can, volunteering, putting yard signs in

their yard, helping out with our social media. We have a real grassroots campaign here,

and it couldn't be a greater contrast to Tony Weeds, a couple of rich friends kind of campaign.

Well, it's your listening to the Devils advocates. Radio Show, Dr. Kristen Lierley,

Democratic candidate for Wisconsin's 8th CD. Kristen, good to see you again. You know,

the political efforts of defining your opponent on the issues. You talked about the economy a little

bit in how you might contrast. I know you've been out talking a lot of your constituents,

there's lots of people who have lots of things to say, lots of concerns, lots of wants, lots of needs.

What do you think the biggest contrasts are philosophically, politically, between you and your opponent?

Well, certainly, I would lead with abortion. I mean, me being an OBGYN doctor who,

100% supports my patients, right, to choose their own pathway, their own healthcare decisions.

Tony Weeds' anti-abortion. When we talk about the economy, it's all talk on his side. I have ideas.

It involves paid family leave. It involves childcare. It involves affordable, accessible healthcare.

When we talk about the border, he's talking, he's following the Trump line of

mass deportations and all of these other things that we know, frankly, won't work. I want a secure

border. I do want to stop the flow of drugs over the border. That is critical. I mean, don't even get

me started on the fentanyl crisis and the opioid crisis. As a physician, I see that. But we need a

safe path, an efficient path to citizenship. And frankly, we need immigrants to help us out

with our agriculture here in Wisconsin. We need immigrants to work in the meat packing plants

here in Northeast Wisconsin. We need immigrants to help us in the nursing homes and so many of

these other jobs that are currently now unfilled. So there are solutions. We're talking about solutions.

He's talking about problems. We're talking about hope and change. He's talking about fear and

division. Well, and you mentioned that. I'm glad you did. A lot of the immigrant labor makes up

the labor for the dairy industry. And you mentioned meat packing. I mean, if there was a

quote-unquote successful effective mass deportation, you know, the cows would go

unmilk. The meat would rot in the factories. I mean, it is, and I would imagine lots of these

folks that are employed by quote-unquote conservatives or Republican time of employees. That's just

how it is. I grew up in out of game. I saw it for myself. Specifically, is there a path to

citizenship? Is there open workers visas? Like, how can that be addressed? It's got to be some

bipartisan effort because everyone's going to need, you know, we need the labor. If nothing

else, and it shouldn't be underground. Dom, I did not know you were my homeboy because I grew up in

Chicano. Yeah. All right. No, you're right. We, there is. There is a solution. And in fact,

there was a bipartisan deal that was put together by some of the most conservative and some of the

most liberal members of Congress. They came together. They compromised. They figured out a path

forward and Trump squashed it. Donald Trump wanted this issue to be active so that he could use it.

And it's the number one thing that he talks about when you listen to him, which is hard to do.

He brings it up over and over and over again. There is a solution here. We can make this happen.

We've just got to find the political courage to do it. And, you know, I would add one more thing.

Tony Weed as the owner of a chain of gas stations did not use the e-verify system. He did not

ensure that his workers were actually documented. That was choice. So I think that's an important

consideration for somebody who is so concerned about immigration.

Kristen Lierley, Tony Weed, your opponent, you anticipate there will be public debates,

televised broadcast on radio. Are you open for debate? Will you challenge him to a debate?

Could we host a debate right here on the numbers, advocates for you? How could we help in this regard?

Yes, yes, and yes, I would absolutely love to debate, Tony Weed. We need to know the people

of Northeast Wisconsin need to know where he stands on critical issues. There are so many

problems that need to be solved. And they have gone unsolved. This last Congress has been the least

effective Congress in decades, if not ever, and people are desperate for solutions. So bring us

questions. Have us answer your questions. Make sure you know where we stand. This is how democracy

works, whether it's Tony Weed or any other candidate you deserve to know who you are voting for.

Not just whether they have a D or an R by their name, but what do they actually stand for?

Well, here's a question for you and perhaps for Weed as well. Top the ticket. You've got Kamala Harris

and Tim Walls and you're running as a Democrat and they're going to be in Milwaukee on Tuesday.

The DNC is this upcoming week. Obviously, Tony Weed is Trump endorsed.

Are you going to have to answer questions every time Harris makes a statement? Are you subject to

defending her record and should Tony Weed be subject to defending Trump's many, many statements

between now and election day? I am a Democrat and I do support Vice President Harris and

Governor Walls, but I don't have to defend their record. They have their own campaign. I have my own

campaign. Tony Weed is so closely linked to former President Trump, but I think it's really

impossible for him to unlink. When you hear him talk about his campaign, he leads with

I am the Trump and Dors candidate and it's almost become a joke up here in the Green Bay area

because it all goes together. Tony Weed, the Trump and Dors candidate, so it's impossible for him

to separate himself from former President Trump, whereas I get to work together with Democrats

who have different ideas. I'm working with lots of the folks in the state and assembly candidates

and Senate candidates who are talking to people in Wittenburg and Shano and El Goma. We're just in

El Goma the other night. It is so cool to hear their take some things and how they foresee solving

these problems. That is the beauty of democracy. Everybody doesn't have the same idea. You don't

agree with everybody on everything, but you do come together and you have discourse and you solve

problems and you compromise and you figure it out. It used to work that way in our government

before we became so divided. We're going to bring it back together again.

Kristen, sort of a unique part of the demographic in Brown County.

High Latino population, you talked about the the Massey partations proposed by Trump

and endorsed by Tony Weed. How do you outreach to Latinos and how can you get them involved

in your campaign and what do you think your support is right now in the greater Green Bay Latino

community? I think it's strong and we're continuing to grow that support. I am involved with a number

of nonprofits. I have a number of friends from the Latino community. We are going to continue to

focus on how we can elevate them, address their issues and just make sure that we're solving problems

as a full community. I think this is a group of folks who have been underrepresented,

and as the population continues to grow, they have a greater and greater voice. We have no

representation in Brown County or on the City Council here in Green Bay, no Latino representation.

So that's something that I've been working on as well. I know we're going to get there. It won't

be long. Stay tuned. But yeah, this is a population that 70 percent of Brown County is Latino,

is Hispanic. So we're going to get there. And Dr. Kristen Lairley, I'm not going to say you're

running a broke ass campaign because I know you've got lots of grassroots support,

but you're running against a rich guy and you're going to need probably more support here in

the general. How can people get involved in your campaign, give you money or volunteer? How do they

get involved? Kristen for Wisconsin.com. There's a link there to donate all our social media stuff

is there. You can volunteer, get a yard sign, and might I add Mike that once I am elected in November,

I will be the third woman from Wisconsin to serve in Washington DC, the third. And then Becca

Cook will be right behind main number four. That's excellent. We look forward to both you and Rebecca,

joining the Wisconsin congressional delegation. I am so sick of all these Republicans. They do not

represent us. Kristen Lairley, you're a little closer to what I would see as good representation.

I wish I had a vote in the eighth. Kristen, again, thank you so much. Where's the first

campaign stuff? Where are you? Where are you going? First, Howard in about two minutes.

Well, let's go then. Thank you so much for the time you made for us. Again, congratulations.

I know you ran on a pose, but now you got an opponent totally weed. Go whoop his ass. Thank you,

Dr. Lairley. You got it, brother. Thanks for having me, guys. Thank you, Kristen. Folks,

we have the double sap kits. I play favorites around here. She's one of mine. Come back. You can

be my favorite dial us eight, four, four, nine, six, seven, two, seven, eight, nine, more Devils,

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Dominic want to thank our most recent guests. They find one one of my favorite congress people to be. She's Dr. Kristen Leierley and OBGY and from the Green Bay area running in the 8 CD. Support her if you can. I think she will do a fine job in Congress. I can't wait, damn. I could see cook winning her race. I could see Kristen Leierley winning her race. I can see Peter Barka theoretically winning the first CD. That'd be a big

shift. Could you see going from two congress people in the blue team to five in a state where we have eight congress people marginalize them down to grotty growth men and toxic Tom and Fitzgerald and Fitzgerald. You know, the deepest reddest parts of the state and all the cherrymandering benefit they have. It would be very hard to turn those districts. But we will continue to

introduce you to the democratic alternatives, Tom, because you know, you never know and a race like this, JD Vance. What weird thing has JD Vance said lately? Oh, God, is there a website? There should be. He did a podcast. Our friends at Heartland signal. They're the owners of WCP T8 20 a.m. We're going to do some broadcasting for them next week at the

DNC. Hope you all tune in right here. Whatever your normal station is. We'll be playing there. But new audio reveals JD Vance's view on the whole purpose, a postmenopausal females.

Oh, there's one whole purpose interesting new audio.

According to the roster, Adam and this again, originally sourced from Heartland signal. New audio reveals what Donald Trump's running mate, Senator JD Vance, Republican from Ohio said he believes is the long purpose of women who no longer

ovulate. The political new station Heartland signal took to Twitter Wednesday to share a podcast interview from April of 2020, in which Vance discussed the role his mother-in-law played in raising his son. It makes him a much better human being to have exposure to his grandparents fans said.

Now, the host Eric Weinstein of the portal said the whole purpose of the postmenopausal female. Now the host said that. And then JD Vance said, yes, yes, he agreed with that sentiment, Dom. Now the pair continued to discuss what the

podcaster described as the weird, unavortized feature of marrying an Indian woman.

Here's it gets a little stranger. Listen, because his mother-in-law is a very talented woman in her own regard. Vance explains how Lakshima, Chilla Curry, mother of his wife Usha, is a professor of molecular biology.

And she took a year-long sabbatical from teaching to help her daughter take care of JD Vance's baby. And I would ask, what was JD Vance doing? Just being the man in the house? That is what you do Vance said, apparently talking about his mother-in-law, the molecular biologist who took a year sabbatical.

Weinstein clarified this again, the podcaster, a biology professor, PhD, drops what they're doing to immediately tend to the needs of a new mother with her infant. Vance confirmed that characterization was correct and described the decision is not physically efficient, arguing a college professor would have had the disposable income to send her daughter money for childcare, but it was worth it.

That is the thing that hyper liberalized economics wants you to do, Vance said, the economic logic of always prioritizing paid wage labor over other ways of contributing to society. It's actually a consequence of a sort of fundamental liberalism that's ultimately going to unwind and collapse upon itself.

My God. The fact that he thinks his mother-in-law, the molecular biologist, teaching other molecular biologists, the more important role for her to contribute is to watch JD Vance's kid, not JD Vance's role as the father to contribute to the household, but his mother-in-law's role.

Now, Vance's repeatedly dubbed childless American Americans, it's sociopaths. Mox single women is cat ladies and managed to outrage the Pokemon fan community by admitting he told his son to shut the hell up about one of the characters.

My God.

Responded former prosecutor and political commenter Andrew Weissman on Wednesday, it just gets worse. It just gets worse. They're just weird.

Weirder, right? It just gets more weird.

And, you know, if you have the ability and my mother-in-law was, was a Ronald, we lived across the street.

She's the same. I met your mother-in-law.

I know. She's awesome. And she took the kids a lot when we were, when they were young.

We sent them out the front door, the little suitcases. They walked down the sidewalk and into Emma's house.

Literally, down the street. She lived on the same street. How convenient.

But to think that that's her, this is while she was working. You know what I mean? I wish you were tired. I thought, I also take the kids all the time.

Well, I saw her less, but she retired.

But what to say that that's her only role in life is to care for my kids?

Yeah. Man, this guy is weird.

Damn, as near as I can tell, you barely saw that as part of your role in life.

The kids are better for it.

Truly, they are.

It's a thoughtful notion. The less I am involved in my children's life, the better they are for it. That's probably true of both of us.

Come back with, I just found out my son going to college at our alma mater.

He's going to live in the same door I lived in.

Which was Sanford.

Sanford.

He's going into Sanford.

Good times fellow. Good times.

Is it the same building as they tore a router down to rebuild?

No, it's the same Sanford.

I was in room 315, like on the short wing.

You know, you could smoke down on that end of the wing.

The good old days.

That's nothing but the good old days right here.

I'm feeling yes.

And good.

And it's a happier, happier role in it.

Bill Press is next.