The Epstein Plane...Kudlow Advice...Katrina Shankland...Hacked

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Now live from the Civic Media Studios in Madison, Wisconsin, where the political party is just

beginning, welcome to the Devil's Advocates radio show.

Once proving it's never personal, only politics.

And now here's your host, Dom and Crute.

Welcome back to the Devil's Advocates radio show, just Monday down, not even close to

the weekend.

Happy Monday to you, Crutey Corsbridge on the board, thank you, my friend, and you can

join us on the lines at 844-9672-789, we have a guest coming in.

The bottom of the hour, state rep Katrina Shankland, as she's a Democratic candidate for the

30 Congressional District, we're going to talk to her at 530.

Well, here is the good news, Dom.

You made it to the happier happy hour, we're rolling, rolling into it, you can be a part

at 844-9672-789, but you brought something to my attention during the break, Dom.

Trump's flying on Jeffrey Appstein's plane this week, I mean, it's, it must be Appstein's

former plane, right?

Like, Appstein's.

Right.

Or is there something they're not telling us about?

Appstein.

What do I need to know about this story, Dom?

I was completely unaware, I'm taken aback by this story.

Oh, I don't have, we're going there right away, dude, let's see.

So Donald Trump using the Jeffrey Appstein's plane from the Miami Herald, apparently he blew

in a blue Gulf Stream, formerly owned by sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein.

Now Trump in route to his own private plane, he had, he had a Montana, he had an unexpectedly

landed in Billings because of a mechanical problem.

He's supposed to be a bozman though.

You know, the Trump force one had a problem, apparently the next day he switched to a, a

bozman, I'm sorry, he switched to a larger Gulf Stream with a serial number that matches

a plane once owned by Appstein, his former neighbor in Palm Beach, the campaign confirmed

a spokeswoman said this, the campaign had no awareness that the charter plane had been

owned by Mr. Epstein.

We heard about the former owner through the media.

Now, if you'll recall, Epstein was arrested on sex traffic in charges, 2019 accused

of sexually abusing more than a hundred girls and young women over the decades.

Epstein was subsequently found dead in his Manhattan jail cell a month later.

His death ruled a suicide, long been source of conspiracy theories.

Uses of the plane is likely to add to public scrutiny regarding his relationship with Epstein,

even though no evidence has surfaced that Trump was involved in Epstein's crimes.

Now, we do know Donald Trump did make mention of Epstein at one point, saying he has,

he likes the women on the younger side.

You know, so Trump knew if nothing else, maybe he didn't participate, but he knew what was going down.

Well, the woman that sued Prince Andrew, she was recruited from Marilago, Epstein's just

Lane Maxwell met her at Marilago and took her back and apparently she was sex traffic

as a teenager under age when she was in Marilago.

He was in the same social circles as Epstein and flew on Epstein's planes six times from 1993 to

1997. All counted seven times now because apparently they got it through a third party vendor

because the Trump force one apparently had some mechanical problems.

Don't you hear on Epstein's plane? I mean, do you see the same plane that you were on before?

I mean, I'm just curious. Is this like, did you walk on? Did Epstein have multiple planes?

Was this the plane that he was on, you know, six times back in the 90s?

Like, hey, I remember this plane. Good times, great memories.

Prior DNA. Wow. Someone should go through that thing with the black light. That's all I can say.

Rose. 844-967-2789. Carol's been patient. Welcome, Carol, for Madison, what he got for us.

All right. Hey, Carol. Welcome.

Thank you. I originally wanted even governor of the share or Mark Kelly for the VP tips,

but I'm really psyched about walls. He's a fun guy, isn't he? I mean, like,

charismatic, just a jolly, happy sort of guy. He is great. And I don't think the

swift voting will work this go around because the Democrats are actually fighting it.

And information is easier to find in 2024. I was really impressed when he stopped his speech

when that person fainted. Yeah, I've been all clear the other day. Yes, ma'am.

Amazing. And what I really loved about it is he's doing his speech. He sees the person go down

and what's the first word out of his mouth? Oh,

somebody said, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, we need some help here. Yeah, first thing he said was,

oh, and then he drove the guy home, but first he made sure he had his belt on before he started

to park, drove him and sat in the driveway till the guy got in safe. And then he moved the

wand. Carol, that sounds like a Trumpian exaggeration in some way, shape or form, but it

sounds better when you do it. It's a meme I saw. It's a clever one. Carol, thanks for joining us

today. 844-967-2789. I had seen, and if I can't find it, I'm not going to go there. I'm

guess I'm not going to go there, because I can't find it. 844-967-27. Great.

Great segue. Yeah, I really made that smooth for the audience to see it tonight.

Great, great lead for me as well. I actually wanted to talk about, well, here's where I want to go.

And I would support it, but I don't need to support everything I say with somebody else's

work or thoughts. Here's what I would say. This campaign, this Harris-Walls campaign is more

successful for fighting back, for standing up to it, for calling them freaking weird for

taking a little pot shot. I'd love to, I'd love to debate JD if I can get them off the couch.

See what I did there? That to me is the way you fight against the bullied like Donald Trump,

right? I mean, Democrats, Michelle Obama said, you know, when they go low, we go high.

And that worked okay, but they continued to come after her husband in part of the way that

Donald Trump built his political reputation was delegitimizing Barack Obama.

I need his log for a burst of good. We're sending investigators to a white. I mean,

how does this freaking punk what the TV show get to make statements about the

veracity of the presidency of the United States? You know what I mean? Like, how did he get

a good mind for Barack Obama? You can do whatever you want. You can say whatever you want.

So long as you're not libelous or slanderous, I'm not going to have my other than the fact that

Barack, if Barack Obama was not a public figure, I think he probably crossed that line.

I want to see your long form burst of difficulty. I don't have one.

Good luck. You American citizen. I don't even have any. How do I know that you even went

to UW lacrosse? Well, yeah. Yeah, it could have been me. This was all in my head. It's the matrix.

No, but listen, I mean, the guy could say what the crazy thing is again, if he was up in a park

out of soapbox, you'd be calling the cops on this guy. But you think he's got four billion dollars

and he's not like, oh, hey, we love rich people so much. We're going to put this narcissist a hole

in the office once. No, twice. We're trying to do it again. No, for the third time to try and

because of what you got you got Rob last time election integrity. The whole thing, the whole thing.

I can't even, I can't get past it. It's insanity. And to have a regular campaign with candidates

that are that are that want to serve that have, you know, policy ideas that at least coincide

of something I want. I mean, what is it? What's that? What's not of Trump's policies tax cuts?

You got small hands. Tax cuts. More tax cuts. Well, that never solved.

2025. Oh, that wasn't me. I have no idea of those who those people are. What did they actually

said? Although I didn't agree with some of the things that were said. So it just whether it not,

it's it's the AI. The most recent thing of this is madness that there's nobody showing up for

Kamala Harris's crowds. And even the, even the writings, man, I mean, what Kevin McCarthy

saying, talk about the issues. Don't insult. You don't talk about the crowd size. Get on to other

things. Donald Trump cannot help himself. Dominique Fox. And this is what I was looking for.

A Fox business host and Kelly and Conway, both former Donald Trump advisors are on the outside

looking in and either likes what they're soon. Yeah, right. Speaking Monday, Larry Cudlow,

that guy's never been right about anything, but Cudlow ranted. Don't water off. Don't call

her stupid and all kinds of names. Well, that's probably good advice. He went on to urge Trump.

Take it. Well, he went on to urge Trump to stay on message, but didn't mention what that message

is. Conway claimed there's a winning formula for Trump and even called it plain to see her instruction

less insults, more insights. I've been given that instruction often. And I don't take that advice

either. Yeah, exactly. Trump's not going to either. I did read another, you know,

righty consultant type say, you know, Trump's got to do two things, not doing either one. One,

he needs to define Kamala Harris. And he's not doing that. She's doing that. And he needs to redefine

himself. Good luck with that. Yeah, good luck with that. He can't mean he is the king of insults.

This is what he does. He's the Andrew Dice clay of presidential politics. And the stick is getting

really, really old, especially when you see, you know, the headline or come on stage. You know what I

mean? Hickory dickory duck. Do you hear this one? I feel like I told this one before. I know,

right? It's rigged. They cheated me. I'm going to build a wall must be going to pay for it.

What was going to go away? So we're done a really good job. I mean, everything. There's a

litany of asses and nine crazy ass things that this man has said and done and continues to do.

And if you ask my humble opinion, he continues to get worse. Here are a few others, Tom.

Biden's prepared to have the FBI assassinate Donald Trump.

All right. Don't forget. Don't forget that one. Democrats messaging is to blame for the

assassination attempt on Trump. It's all the dems fault. Right. It is. Biden fake COVID.

Faked it. Oh, yeah, yeah, that wasn't true. Did he mention he went down in a helicopter with

Willie Brown, Trump 10. Come back. No, no, he didn't. I got a whole list.

The devil's advocates, political commentary from the back of the class.

And welcome back to the doubles of a kid's radio show,

phone lines grow up and go on their next eight, four, four, nine, six, seven, two, seven, eight,

nine, stick around Wisconsin State Rep Katrina Shakeland. She is running for Wisconsin's third

congressional district. Got a primary going on tomorrow. She's going to join us the bottom of the

hour. I'm on the tax line. Lama's got my back here. I will back, Rudy. He reads our tax.

No matter how bad the spelling is, I try to clean him up. You know, I tried to absolutely

see and all that. Here's the question from Lynn in Oh, kind of a walk.

Hey, Rudy, as a convicted felon, can Trump vote? When is he being sentenced? The sentencing

is scheduled for September 18th. I've got that day circled on my calendar. Yeah, that's

come a question. As far as him losing his ability to vote presumably for himself,

one thinks he would vote for himself. Narcissist and all. But I don't think the felony will be

in play because he will have stated or the courts will have stated. He will appeal post-sentencing

our understanding. We've asked a few legal experts. And he apparently is registered in Florida.

And those are New York felonies, right? And a typical felon in Florida, our understanding,

would lose the right to vote under the fact that they're a felon in a different jurisdiction. But

I'm not clear. It would not shock me if Trump didn't bother voting. That's for the little people.

Suckers and losers vote. I need your vote. But I'm not going to vote.

I'd be even if you, and even if I get your vote, but I don't get enough of your votes. And like

the other team gets more votes, I'm still going to stay and say it was stolen because I'm a

narcissist weirdo. Damn, I bet it's about 50 50 if he gets Melania's vote. It's a coin flip at

best. At best. 844-967-2789 Don from Millie Walker. Welcome Don. What do you got for us?

Hello Don. Hi, hi, a gentleman. Say, a Saturday they had a Saturday news. I've maybe heard about

this. And I didn't know what the point of it was. Trump was supposed to have been said he was on a

helicopter flight with Willie Brown. And that he was supposed to have said some terrible things about

Kamala Harris. And then they asked him about, they asked Willie Brown about it. I guess he's the

mayor of San Francisco. Well, he had been many years ago. Well, yeah, right, right. And what was

this one thing? Why he brought that up? What was his, what was he trying to prove that it came

out that he's an old man with a faulty memory. Don because it was a different black man, not Willie

Brown, the former mayor of San Francisco. He apparently was on a flight. And I heard it described

by someone else that was on the flight. This was not a near death experience. This was like some

turbulence. And, and Don nearly crapped himself. And, and the person telling this story said he was

terrified. But it wasn't even Willie Brown. He was on the, the flight with our part. Well,

I don't know if the former governor of California was on the flight or not. I had heard that as well.

Yeah, it was, it was a different black guy. It wasn't even the, the former mayor of San Francisco.

Yeah, but I couldn't understand what the, what did he, if he losing his, you know, because his dad

had all timers, you know, I don't know if you know that at all. But, uh, so I'm wondering if he is

catching the same thing, you know, so, yeah, just a thought. So,

appreciate your call. Appreciate it. Yeah, thank you, John. It is, I mean, I, I, yeah, I'm not

wanting to analyze someone, you know, via the tele or the, the YouTube's, but, man, the guy

certainly got problems. I would certainly say that. And I mean, if it was, again, if it were Joe Biden

saying, Hey, I got a, I was on a helicopter ride with was staying from the police. And we almost

crashed. And the good came up and said, Oh, man, that was never me. What do you talk? I mean,

you think, Oh, my God, this guy's losing his freaking mind. And I mean, it's just, it's just

another thing of Donald Trump. I don't, I don't know, trying to inject himself in the story. Stay

ahead of something to make himself to prop himself up. It's a defensive mechanism because he's so

ungodly insecure is evidence by the massive amount of narcissism. Yes.

844 967 2789. So, and someone should

read ahead before we report this to the audience. I'll use the commercial break to get ahead of this,

but new breaking headlines at the Washington Post. The FBI probing alleged a ran hack attempts

targeting both Trump and the Biden campaigns. Now, earlier, we had understood that it was being

reported that Trump's campaign had been hacked. But we didn't really believe it, did we?

We, we question. And then this guy says everything that comes out of this campaign is certainly

under Trump's mouth has to be questioned. First, we're asked to be certainly. But now it also

would appear the Biden campaign was targeted. So let me read ahead in that during the commercial

break. Let's take Tom from Jackson. Welcome Tom. What do you got for us?

Hey Tom. All right. Hey, I'm wondering, um, is smart going to be the VP debate? And if so,

are you guys going to be saying it? The VP debate actually the only one I've heard proposed was

September 3rd. And I haven't seen that anyone's accepted it yet. I don't think we've got a VP

debate yet. Um, the, the claim being is, you know, they might still switch out to walls, I guess.

But after the DNC, the DNC starts one week from today. So they're not going to jam anything in

between now and the big democratic show next week. Dom and I will be down in Chicago. We

pulling the best damn coverage ever next Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. And I would say

as Labor Day happens as we turn to September and back to school. And, you know, we're in that

final 60 day sprint. I think we will see at least one vice presidential debate between

JD Vance and, you know, Tim Walls, of course, Tom, if they can get Vance off the couch.

Off the couch. Thanks for the call. Um, eight for four. We can go there readily, easily,

often. I just prefer that, you know, walls and hairs keep it a little more buttboard than us.

Can I like to be the lowest bar? Can we be both insightful and insulting? I, I, I think that's

what we do best. I think you're right. We got to find, yes, we'll try to bring you insights

and not insult her, but, you know, no promises. You know how we are. Uh, she is Katrina Shanklin.

She is running for the nomination in the third CD wants to go up against drunky van

and the general. And she's got a opponent Rebecca Cook. We'll talk about the

contentious race for the dem nomination in the third CD. We'll talk with Katrina Shanklin,

a state lawmaker. She's next. You want to insult anyone before we go to break?

I see CJ in the queue. He would be an obvious target. Keep hold on CJ. Today could be your day for

shursies. Hold on, baby.

Charged, never convicted. The devil's advocates.

Welcome back to the devils. Advocates radio show it is partisan primary

Eve Monday. And it is a happier happy hour. I'm going to get to better right now. We got

to find guess she's joining live via phone. She is Katrina Shanklin currently in the state

assembly. She is running to be congressperson congressman. I guess tactically Katrina, you'd be

congressman. Katrina Shanklin. If you win, uh, Katrina, welcome back to the devil's

advocates been too long. Hi Katrina. Hey, it has been too long. Thanks for your patience. You guys,

we have been all over the 13th congressional district hundreds of miles a day and not everywhere

has reception. So we are, we are sitting at a park shelter in Plattville right now. We've got

great reception. I'm so glad to be here with you. My understanding is you have been on the barn

storming tour and are you companion with David Hogg? Is that my understanding?

David Hogg is right next to me. Do you want to say hi? He can certainly say hi. We would

say hi David. Hi David. Excellent. Hey, I was listening to your radio show on the way in from

Madison and I called up Katrina and I was like, you got to get on this and what it turns out is

that she's been traveling so much around the district constantly. I had no idea how bad the

reception is out here. So it's been really hard to get to the center of you but I'm really glad

that she's on now. Also, you guys have some great cheese curds out here. I've been learning about

the different types and I got to give a shout out to a special spotted cow beer that Katrina

introduced me to. I've been getting the whole Wisconsin treatment and I love your show as well.

Thank you so much for having us on and I ask that anybody that's out there please support Katrina

coming up just tomorrow in this election. I'm out here and there aren't really any other

congressional I'm working in this election. It's because I really, really believe in Katrina.

She's not taking corporate money and that's one of the reasons my organization leaders

we deserve is supporting her so much. We wanted to stay out of the primary but it got really

nasty with lies being spread about her and I knew that we needed to have the strongest can of

possible to defeat this insurrectionist Derek. Yeah, Derek, I won't put words into your mouth,

sir, but I consider him something of a day drunk Derek fan ordinance. David Hock, thank you.

Are we speaking with Katrina or David at this point? I'm here. You're on the ballot. I mean,

that's quite an impressive companion today out on the stump. Again, David Hock from leaders we

deserve. Katrina, it's been a lot of mileage. It's been a lot of barnstorming. Tomorrow is the big

day. Tell people why you're the right candidate to represent the third and win this seat back.

Absolutely. Well, I'm the only candidate in this race who's held public office,

won a tough election or won an election at all and passed a bill into law. Experience really

matters here because we know we get one clear shot at taking on and defeating Derek fan ordinance.

And I believe strongly we could have won two years ago, but there was a lack of investment

national partners last time. That's not the case anymore. They have made very clear that this

is going to be a key priority to them. And the difference this time around is I have built a

winning coalition that's really unprecedented in a competitive primary. We have 20 labor unions

from both AFT and we act the state statewide teacher unions to local firefighters,

bricklayers, plumbers and electricians. We've got UAW and UFCW as well as Alliance for

Retired Americans in the state AFL CIO. And it isn't just labor standing with me. It's pro-democracy

and good government groups like end citizens united and social security works which works hard

to protect social security and Medicare. We also have two environmental groups,

the National League of Conservation Voters as well as Clean Wisconsin's Action Fund.

So we have a diverse and amazing coalition and we're incredibly honored to have recently picked

up the leaders we deserve endorsement because they are all about elevating bold leaders,

unafraid to take on the challenges of this generation and to win. And so I think my experience

is what really resonates with voters. We just finished our ninth stop in three days

across the third congressional district and we're really proud of the support we've been gaining

along the way. Folks, you are listening to the Devils advocates radio show that is state

legislator Katrina Shanklun. She's running for Congress in Wisconsin's third congressional district.

Katrina is always a pleasure. The the the the chippiness between your campaign and some of your

rivals. Cook, some of the the issues that have been written up about in the cap times,

they didn't editorial on your position on badger care, what your objections were, what your

positions have been, what you tried to accomplish. I want to give you an opportunity, Katrina.

What have you done to try to expand health care in the state of Wisconsin?

Absolutely. Well, thank you so much for that opportunity because I've actually passed bills

to lower prescription drug costs, including increased access to up and effort and cracking down

on PBM's pharmacy benefit managers and the gate clause. I've also passed bills to make

healthcare more accessible, including launching the state's community paramedicin program

and mobile integrated telehealth, which all that means is if you're urban rural or suburban,

you have increased access to care because of my work. Over the last 12 years, I've had my name

on the badger care expansion bill to cover 90,000 more people and saved two billion dollars

of taxpayer money for 12 years straight. And you can take that to the bank. That's why

Governor Evers got involved. That's why legislators from the third got involved and assembly

Democratic leader Greta Nubauer got involved because to see a dark money group and my opponent

spread false negative attacks and a democratic primary is wrong period.

Katrina, I mean, certainly your opposition cannot coordinate with these third party groups.

You put the blame for these misleading ads at her feet and her campaigns feet.

Who do you hold responsible for the misleading ads?

Yep. She sent out two mailers with the exact same information that was on her website.

On her website on July 25th at 4.20 pm, she put these attacks three different lines of attack

on what's called a red box, which is asking independent expenditures to spend money

a certain way on your behalf as a candidate. And I put out a press release within 12 hours

of seeing that and calling on her to step down and stand down on that negative false attack

because it doesn't just affect me. It affects literally dozens of other Democrats in both houses.

Some of whom are running in competitive districts down bail and for Congress, not just me.

And so I think choosing to take this race negative is deeply disappointing.

It's harmful to democracy, calling on dark money groups to attack another Democrat in a primary

is wrong. And I think it's important to point out that, you know, she has falsely accused me

of starting the race negative when she's called me a career politician since October.

And when we chose to highlight the fact that I've been in public service for years,

delivering results for working families and seniors with a funny ad,

that the majority of folks in fact almost unanimously across the district really liked we get

comments about it every single day positively. She called that an attack. And I think,

look, if you can't handle and add like that of me cutting my husband's hair and factually

pointing out that she's never helped public office before, you certainly can't be the Navy seal

and serving Congress. Katrina Shanklin, if you get to Congress, what was your position be

on a national health care, a universal health care? What would you like to see done if we were

able to somehow wrestle away, control Congress, have a Democratic president? What would you endorse?

We have 15,000 lobbyists in our nation's capital and many of them lobby on health care

and prescription drug costs. And I'm proud to have been not only the candidate, the only candidate

who's gone to uncitizens united endorsement, but who's also been taking the lead on

disavowing corporate pack money. And that gives me the independent and leadership ability to really

lead on making health care more affordable and expanding opportunities. And so I've been on a bill.

There's a Badger Care Public Option bill. I've had my name on multiple times in the state

capital. I support a public option. I know that that at a minimum is where we need to start when

House Democrats take the majority in January. And I think it's important to recognize that some

of these special interests that have been spending money against me with false attack ads probably

are motivated to not see that happen because they make money after killing health care reform.

So I'm taking not only a bold stance on ending corporate money in politics and ending

citizens united by also know we have a mandate to protect the promise of Medicare and Social Security.

We know that by 2035 there is going to be solvency issues. So we have to do more to make it more

affordable and to make it cover more things, whether it's dental vision and hearing or whether it's

not only expanding Medicare Part D, but also ensuring more people can buy into it. And that's

something I'm committed to. Katrina Shanklin, our fine guest, she's running for the U.S. Congress

in the third CD. Now Katrina, let's assume you win the primary tomorrow. Come Wednesday,

you would be more than willing to be the recipient of D-triple C-money, would you not,

whatever it takes to be Derek van Orden. And I guess here's my only question. I don't mean to

frame it through my own ideology. I'm not down for money in politics any more than you are,

Katrina. But should any campaign unilaterally disarm or aren't you all out there using whatever

tools are at your disposal to train win a primary and ultimately to train win a general election?

My opponent has been falsely, she's been creating false equivalency between me saying clearly,

openly and repeatedly that no person in a democratic primary should ever ask dark money groups to

come in and go negative with false attacks against another Democrat. She said very differently than

what I just said. And I want to be clear, there's a reason why. It's because she's the one

who's benefited from conservative winning dark money groups like welcome pack. And like the

new D-majority pack, which has been falsely attacking me and other Democrats with the same voting

record. And that's the difference here. So I want to be clear, come Wednesday, we are doing

everything possible to be Derek Benwarden. And come January when we not only take office but

have a House Democratic majority, we're doing everything possible to reform the system in the same

way that Russ Fine gold did. We know that these big packs that take over elections and not only harm

our democracy with these false attacks are having in some cases in some elections more power than

the voters than that's wrong. And so for me, campaign finance reform is about putting voters back

in the driver's seat. And when it comes to ensuring that people in Congress are doing the right

thing, there's 69 end citizens united pledges this Congress, 17 end citizens united senators. So

total we have just over 80 folks who have taken this pledge. I will be I think the 86 person or 87th

person who's taken that no corporate pack pledge. I want to see 535 people in both houses take that

pledge so we can end citizens united together. And I think that's important. Katrina Shinklin,

our fine guest, Derek Finn, Orden is the current congressman in the third. It hurts me a little

bit to say that Katrina. I was in ochler the other night post Kamala Harris rally. And I did watch

the local news. I watched actually out of lacrosse. And I saw Derek Finn, Orden Ed. He's already

running his general election ads. Obviously he's got something of a war chest. And he sort of makes

himself out to be this grand fatherly gentleman farmer type. Well, how are you going to characterize

this man? If you have the opportunity, if you win the primary and you're the democratic representative,

what would you say about Derek Finn, Orden? You go low or you're going to stay high and above the

fray. How are you going to how are you going to fight this guy? This guy gets my goat. I saw

that ad just like you did. And you know what? I think at the end of the day, we need to take him

on without reservation. Derek Van Orden was at the Capitol on January 6th. He was wearing an

earpiece and he crossed the police lines according to photos published by the Daily Beast. Let's be

clear. That's just qualifying. He has no business serving in public office, let alone Congress.

The only thing this man has delivered on is embarrassing national headlines. He can't pass

bills. He barely understands how to serve on the agriculture committee. He withdrew an amendment

for dairy farmers and dairy innovation instead of getting a pass when he has the majority.

And so I think the best candidate to take Derek Van Orden on and win is a candidate who's passed

225 bipartisan bills into law under governors from both parties to advance not only health care

affordability and prescription drug affordability but also support our farmers and first responders

and invest in infrastructure. So we're working hard to make Derek Van, we're going to one

term member of Congress. There's a place where people like him, it's definitely not Congress. I'd

love to send him back to Minnesota while we get people like Tim Waltz and Kamala Harris elected to.

And that's our goal. It's our mandate and I think we're going to be as factual as possible when we

hold him to account. We have his voting record, the bill he's failed to pass on behalf of his

constituents and the many ways he's embarrassed us from screaming at kids in the Capitol to screaming

at a library, a teenage librarian in the district in Prairie to Sheen. And so we know that's not

acceptable behavior. And the best candidate to take on someone with no character or temperament

is a candidate who's gotten things done for workers, farmers and families and that's me.

Katrina, if elected to the Congress, we pledged up. Always have a cold beer in the morning for your

constituents like Derek does. You know what? I don't take many pledges. The no corporate pack

pledge is the big one because I believe so strongly that we have to take on these big powerful

special interests and win so that people can truly be represented by their federal representatives.

But I do pledge to have an open door policy in my office and meet with folks so that we can really

work together to protect our democracy from extremists and expand voting rights and to

codify Roe v Wade and strengthen reproductive freedoms, including IVF and contraception.

Katrina, real quick, sorry. I want you to be able to tell people how they can

find out more about you before we're out of time here completely.

Absolutely. I want folks to go to Katrina, shanklinforcongress.com. You can also click on facts.

If you have any questions about the attacks that you guys mentioned today,

we also click on issues to view my thoughts on many issues.

The big and tall of political talk, the devil's advocates.

And welcome back to the devil. Having its radios. No, we are all crazy. Now it's our last segment

of the day. If you want to get crazy with us, hit us up on the lines 844-967-2789.

Want to thank our most recent guest, Katrina Shinklin, state lawmaker, running for Congress

and CD3 that's most Western Wisconsin. And then there's that thumb out part that

goes and grabs Steven's point. You know, this was a jury-mandered map and the congressional

maps are not being changed. So we are still using the least-changed maps on the congressional

side from like 10 years ago. Yeah, they're still in place. But Katrina Shinklin running in the

third primary tomorrow. And don't forget vote against the constitutional amendment. No,

is the correct answer. No, no, no, no, let the misleading Scott Walker. You wouldn't want

Scott Walker spending federal monies unchecked. Would you? I can't believe they're using

Scott Walker for evil. Well, of course they are. Sort of a typecasting, isn't it?

844-967-2789. Also, I told you I would keep an eye on the breaking news that we are seeing

at the Washington Post. I guess I saw it reported first. But both the Biden campaign and the

Donald Trump campaign apparently were hacked by Iranians, or at least there was some

effort made. And in the case of the Trump campaign, they apparently got the Apple research against

JD Vance and dumped a 278 page file with political, all the worst things about JD Vance and his

entire history. He cleansed his soul on paper and the Iranians hacked the, what do you think

the Trump team's password was? MAGA, MAGA 2024. Admin, lowercase. Rigged. Stop the steal.

So I'm sure there'll be more reporting about this. But anyways,

foreign interference and elections, that never happens in this country.

844-967-2789. L.A. Tom. Welcome back, fellow. What do you got for us?

Hey, Tom. Well, Trump probably sold the information to Iran and Russia.

And that grouping of people in the first place. I'm going to say, of course, both now with my own

two propositions. Like, yes, that. And I think it all turned out there in both between the

shank when she saw somebody that's getting money in politics instead of his soul. So simply, like she

did, you know, I know me if the money out politics is my number one issue of all. So if that's a

person that gets behind in systems and I had to give her the mad, then I would say everybody should

both for her in terms of getting money out of politics. And as far as that story goes about the

Trump and Brown. Yeah, it was Jerry Brown or White Governor. Actually, it was also Gavin Newsom.

And Trump was on a plane with them because he was going to a paradise fires.

Had nothing to do with Willie Brown with a black man. So I really think Trump

down old with a whole LD and dementia kind of need to go together and people need to start questioning,

especially our media. Why is this guy not stepping down? He's so old and he's got so many issues

going on right now that, you know, what, you're going to have JD weirdo, being charged of everything.

Scares the hell out of me. I'll tell you that much. So yeah, I hope I really just out and

vote tomorrow because polls don't matter. It's what voting is what matters. And I hope for the

best of you. Are you a cat lady Tom? Are you a childless cat lady Tom? Yeah, sure.

Childless cat lady, my friend. Absolutely. Where it was fried. Just like Taylor Swift.

I hear him meowing in the background. I'm like, what? I thought there was a kid. At first,

I'm like, you know, maybe he's babysitting the friend or neighbor's cat or whatever,

but then I start hearing something. I heard it. Yeah. Yeah. It was his cat, I believe.

Here is what I was referencing in regards to Donald Trump.

Former California lawmaker Nate Holden says he was on the scary helicopter ride with Trump,

not Willie Brown. So former Los Angeles City Councilman and California State Senator Nate Holden

said Friday that he was with former president Trump in a helicopter ride that made an emergency

landing. Despite Trump saying it was former San Francisco mayor Willie Brown. Willie is a short

black eye living in San Francisco holding set an interview. I'm a tall black eye living in Los

Angeles. I took this to mean, well, he said it for me, Dom. I guess we all look alike.

Not crude. He's words just just for clarity sake, but apparently Trump must have mistaken his

black lawmaker. Shocking or a black friend. The Washington Post reporting regarding these alleged

hacks, a wildly FBI suspect he ran is behind the fishing attempts that were tracked in June. It's

less clear to investigators if the nation is also responsible for sending of internal campaign

data to reporters. The Washington Post and political have both reported they were contacted by

a person claiming to have access to internal Trump campaign documents, used an AOL account and

the name Robert. Hmm. Last person I knew that had an AOL account was always president Mike Pence

did not also get hacked his password or didn't get his password hacked.

Pretty sure. I remember you had the AOL. Folks, we had the novels have

got thank you all for listening to this show tomorrow's election day go vote vote no on the

constitutional amendments in the state of Wisconsin. Thank you to our fine guest Katrina Shanklin.

She is on the ballot tomorrow. If you live in the third CD and that's most of the left side of

Russ fine gold's hand and then like the bowl in the middle that Stevens point that mole on Russ's

hand. Thank you Rich for what you do glad to have you back little buddy one week from today going

on the road for the greatest DNC coverage anyone's ever heard on the radio. I feel quite confident.

You will listen. Thank you for doing so in advance. Thank you in advance.