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And now here's your host, Dom and Krut.

Welcome to the devil's advocates radio show Thursday edition.

No, Dom, he worked so hard yesterday.

He had a taken early weekend, rich still here on the board,

lightly screened in your phone calls.

Rich, I'm glad you're reliable.

Well, Dom's reliable.

Reliably absent, but he'll be back Monday.

So anyways, catching up on the day job, my understanding something of this sort.

Maybe he's just day drinking, who can tell?

Well, he's doing what he does best, whatever that is, whatever that is.

He's really good at it.

So let me give you some of the headlines of the day.

You're going to have to play along today and you can always join us.

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So you can always join here are a few of the days, big headlines.

Donald Trump, a general news conference, not a specific news conference.

No particular reason why, but a general news conference he held today at

Marilago and one of the things I found quite interesting.

And I could tell he's flailing a pet, not just because he's rambling.

He always does that.

I mean, it was just a massive, long ass word salad.

I watched more than a half an hour.

He went what like an hour, something like that.

But part of what Trump had to tell the assembled, immediate Marilago,

Kamala Harris can't really draw a crowd now like him.

And you know, it was interesting.

I took a few notes here.

I'm acted like a real reporter, used the reporter's notebook and everything.

So I took a few notes from this general news conference.

And it was funny.

It was like Trump was a reverse auctioneer when he talked about Kamala Harris

and the crowd she could draw.

And he said, you know, I hear she got 2000 yesterday.

Well, let me tell you, Trump, I was there.

That was a hell of a lot more than 2000.

The campaign's estimate more than 12,000 crudey's estimate.

That seemed larger to me than a cold center crowd.

Like when they leave, you know, that's how I judge most of my crowd sizes.

Is that a camp Randall crowd?

Is that a cold center crowd?

Is that a Lambo crowd?

You know, you sort of judge crowd by just like how many people?

How big is the mass of humanity walking down the street after the event?

Relative to what it's like at a packer game, a badger game, whatever the case may be.

I would have said that was a cold center size crowd.

What she have filled every seat, I'm not clear.

But I had a guess 15, 18,000 big crowd.

Trump called it 2000.

And then he immediately, well, maybe 1500.

And within 30 seconds, 1000, if God will get to 1000 people, it's a big crowd.

He's claiming an abs, he come to Harris twice in the last two weeks, twice.

And she has become the nominee for president of the Democratic Party.

Now in West Alice, they put her in a gymnasium.

And it held 5000 and they jammed in at least 5000.

I would have guessed more than 5000.

If you included people waiting outside that weren't able to enter.

Donald Trump, by contrast, claimed a crowd size of 107,000.

You know, when I haven't really had 107,000 the other day, no, you didn't.

You have never had 107,000 people for a rally.

Now, later during the general news conference, there was a question about the January sex.

And I love the fact that he always claims nobody died that day.

But they also tried to martyr Ashley Babet, the woman breaking into the house.

You know what, when we got shot in the face that day, it she died at least one person died.

You realize that you talk about both events, but anyways, setting logic aside.

Now he's down to like 1000, right?

And he's laying out the big numbers that the rallies he goes to in South Carolina.

I had 88,000 people in Alabama.

It's 68,000 people at a rally.

And then he also talked about the record number of votes he had gotten in those two states.

And then promptly turned around and said, well, of course, it makes no sense that I lost Georgia.

If I got record votes in Alabama in South Carolina, there's no way I lost Georgia in the last election.

So he returned during his general news conference today to denying the fact he had lost the election in 2020.

And he's back to claiming the biggest crowds ever.

And he said the biggest crowd he ever spoke to was inciting that crowd on January 6th.

Never had a bigger crowd than that.

He claimed, you know, I said patriotically and peacefully, no one ever wants to report that.

Yeah.

So through that end for good measure, but the largest crowd he ever had in the amdum at the US Capitol,

claimed he'd meet him there, go peacefully.

But if you don't fight like hell, we're going to lose our democracy, lose our nation.

So go up there and be peaceful.

You know, that was sort of the emphasized pardon to my opinion.

So part of what he did is he went out there and he bragged about the most massive crowds ever.

And I'm like, where's Sean spicy, spicy, when you need him?

And anyways, then he turned his attention at some point and this now has become part of the news of the day.

But he claimed he wanted to bait Harris three times and he threw out three different dates.

He threw out September 4th, claimed to Fox News debate that day.

September 25th, which Trump claimed would be an ABC debate.

Now, ABC was supposed to go September 10th.

And he claims an NBC debate that day.

And then a little bit later, he's contradicted in his own statement in that ABC news is now confirming

both the Trump campaign and the Harris campaign have agreed to a September 10th debate on ABC.

So I guess he's gay man, gay man.

We've got at least one presidential debate.

You know, give me a week or two.

I'll be claiming it's the most important debate of your lifetime.

And you should probably watch.

But maybe not today.

There's also some new market university law school polling out.

And we had Charles Franklin on the big show yesterday.

And I mentioned at that time, he's coming back today.

He's coming back for the happier happy hour at five o'clock today.

But Mr. Flank Franklin, Charles,

market university law school pollster extraordinaire is going to tell us in the national polling,

this different polling than was discussed yesterday.

But in the national polling, Kamala Harris is a head of Trump nationally by four points.

This is a stunner folks.

Just saw this on the Fox News graphic.

Even Foxy News has to report in just two short weeks.

Kamala Harris has jumped boldly into the lead of the national presidential race,

according to what is a very reputable outfit market university law school.

Among likely voters, Harris receives 53% this likely voters.

Harris receives 53% and Trump 47% that would be outside the margin of error.

Harris upon Trump 6% that is a bit stunning in a multi-candidate field.

Again, this polling just wrapped today about noon in a multi-candidate field.

In among registered voters, Kamala Harris receives 47%.

This is everybody and all the candidates.

Trump receives 41%.

Again, she's up by six outside the margin of error.

Now, Kennedy pulling 9% in this poll, Libertarian candidate chase Oliver 1%.

The Green Party candidate Jill Stein 2% in independent candidate

Cornell West, 1% again, this national polling.

And it would seem to indicate Kamala Harris squarely in the lead,

had to had against Trump and in the all candidates in polling.

Kamala Harris beaten his ass.

So we'll catch up with Charles at five o'clock today.

We'll go inside the new national market, university law school polling,

get voter attitudes on a number of issues looking forward to Charles.

Kind of feel like I got cut short yesterday.

Hopefully you didn't feel the same.

You know, not enough crudey in your diet.

Here's a little obviously and if you weren't listening yesterday,

you missed a hell of a good show.

Crudey took his ass up to Oh Claire.

And I saw Kamala Harris.

And I saw her new VP nominee Tim Walls.

And I saw a massive crowd of very enthusiastic Dems.

I asked him in the crowd greater than 15,000.

The campaign said 12,000 plus.

They were there.

I was there.

There are photos on the devil's.

I've got Facebook page.

Believe me, there was at least 15,000 people there.

There are still going to be some cars there today that I've mentioned the

field they had people parking in got very wet.

And there were a number of people.

And I was trying to cooperate before I had to run off and try to do a radio show with Dom.

I was even in the field pushing a car yesterday,

trying to help push it out five or six of us.

Front wheel drive Chevy.

And this lady's up to her wheel wells in mud.

That deep.

And I'm just at the first question before I start pushing.

Front wheel drive or rear wheel drive.

Because I'm pushing on the back.

I don't want to be too close to the backsplash.

But the other thing I could tell you.

It was hot as hell out there.

The sun shining bright.

And I got a little bit of a Rudolph nose going on here.

And I got a two day hangover or at least I feel like it.

I got a headache for the second day in a row.

I got it from being in the sun yesterday, I suspect.

You know, in the sun, in the air conditioning.

Bad on my brain, bad on my head, makes my head throb a little bit.

But I will tell you, I am nothing in comparison to

Democratic Party of Wisconsin chairman Ben Wickler.

Oh my god, he went on a MSNBC last night.

He looked like a bright red faced raccoon with white eyes.

He had sort of the Trump only instead of bronzer.

He was so cooked.

I mean, crispy sunburn.

I was thinking poor Ben, that looks painful.

It's like you were at a rally of 15,000 or more.

An old Claire for Kamala Harris and Tim Walls.

You got roasted up in that sun, just like yours truly did.

But here I am doing it.

No dumb.

He's back Monday.

But got rich and got you on the phones.

Be a part.

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I woke up this morning at the Oxbow Hotel.

Oh Claire Wisconsin right in the downtown.

Got to see Kamala Harris.

Got to see Tim Walls.

And not only did I get to see them in a rally with like 15,000 or more,

I also got to see them right across the street.

They came to downtown Oh Claire.

They brought the motorcade down.

I was in the gallery at the Oxbow Hotel,

which just means they have a cool art gallery off the lobby.

And I was sitting there in the window facing the local store it's called.

And you know they got lots of neat stuff.

My wife actually accompanied me.

Mrs. Crudy went up there.

Why does he hear some Tim Walls and Kamala Harris?

So she was a stole away on the trip.

And she went in that store.

She said it was a great store.

But we saw those two there along with the lead singer of Bon Eiver.

And Bon Eiver apparently his name's Justin Verden, the lead singer.

He also came over to the hotel because apparently he's

a lead investor in the Oxbow Hotel.

Very nice little boutique hotel.

If you have the means and you find yourself in the Oh Claire area,

very nice place to stay.

I think I mentioned before they have the record players right in the room.

And they have a record library right in the lobby.

So when you check in, they encourage you.

You can check out up to three records.

And you can take them up to the room.

Final, you don't drop that needle.

Play them.

They got a pretty good record collection.

Last time it was violent films in the doors.

So woke up at the Oxbow.

And you know, I found myself looking for some of the coverage of the big event yesterday.

And Fox News found myself adaptably wondering what Fox News had to say about this rally.

Well, I did see the air quotes Trump general press conference when he was claiming,

my god, it gets 2,000 people.

They think it's a big deal.

I get a hundred seven thousand in my rallies.

And they made other grandiose claims of large crowds.

And I think I mentioned on the show before I went to De Boine, Iowa.

I once saw Trump at a rally estimated over 25,000.

I would have guessed closer to 30 or 40,000.

It was a big crowd.

And that is the biggest Trump crowd I've ever seen.

Other than perhaps this inauguration day, that was a very big crowd at least from

ground level.

If you're looking from ground level back at the Washington monument,

that's the tall one, right?

The tall one.

Yes, the Washington monument.

You look down the national mall.

And it did look like a hell of a lot of people.

But of course, I didn't have the vantage point from behind where he realized there was

like a row in front and then lots of dead space behind.

But it looked like a lot of people that day.

But this was the biggest outdoor rally.

I've gone to since 2012, the day before the election when Barack Obama came to Madison,

Wisconsin held a hell of a party on the hill, a basketball, like 30,000 kids showed up that day.

And you could tell they were feeling real good.

Well, the new polling, the Harris campaign, you know, cautiously optimistic,

but new market polling has Harris definitively up on Trump nationally outside the margin of error.

So anyways, I did flip over to Fox News.

And I watched some today and I was amazed and pleasantly surprised to see the new

market polling represented in a graphic like the Fox News audience.

Now, no, Harris is jumping ahead of their guy.

But Rich, I need your help.

Laura Ingram, perhaps you know where she's part of the prime time lineup on the Fox News.

Well, I found it quite interesting.

You know, she claimed her bonafidi's last night and

mid-nass of herself, but you can be the judge.

Rich, if we could, let's play Laura Ingram from the Laura Ingram show on Fox News.

See, if you note the error she makes in this statement, please play it for the people rich.

And these are just facts, Mary Catherine Ham.

I mean, if you know Minnesota and I don't well, especially Milwaukee, it's changed.

Milwaukee, Minnesota, it's not the same Milwaukee.

I knew when I was a kid in Minnesota.

One must assume she's casting aspersions at Minneapolis and it's just so dumb,

she doesn't know the difference, but you know, I find it quite ironic when they so obviously error

in, you know, act like you're the dumb one.

So that was Laura Ingram last night, Milwaukee, Minnesota.

Never going to be the same.

Here is what the cap times is saying.

And I would point out they're going to lean on some of the polling,

but we are very close to what's going to be, I would say, a sleepy summer primary election.

Next Tuesday, August 13th, you know, you got to go vote on Tuesday.

Some of you are like, what am I voting for?

It's a partisan primary.

So unless you live like in the third CD where there's a couple of Democrats running to have the

right to go and beat Derek Van Orden's drunken ass, well, you may not have to vote, you know,

here in Madison, there's no Dems running against my guy, Mark Polkin, for instance.

But there's plenty of heat up and down the ballot.

There are plenty of legislative races, especially with the new fair maps.

You got to go vote.

You got to go plan to vote.

And also, there are a couple of constitutional amendments on the ballot.

And I'm going to recommend you vote no.

And I'm going to read a little bit from Dave's Weafel at the cap times.

Share this with you, our fair audience.

A new market university law school poll conducted, pardon me,

in a market university law school poll,

conducted earlier this year.

The Wisconsin legislature did not fare well.

In February of 24, the polls showed that the Republican controlled legislature

has never been more unpopular.

And its presumptive leader, Robin Voss, sometimes called the state shadow governor,

has never been more unpopular.

Only 34% of voters approved of the job of the state legislature

with 58% opposed.

And of the three branches of government in the state, the legislature was the only one with

a negative rating, minus 24, to be exact.

The governor, Tony Evers, has a plus 751% favorable, 44% unfavorable.

While the state's Supreme Court was at 45% favorable, 43% unfavorable,

Voss himself was given only a 13% favorable rating by the polls participants.

And a major reason for those dismal numbers is undoubtedly the

atrocious, exhibited by the GOP legislative leaders in working with their

Democratic governor the past six years.

It has refused to release funding for the programs already approved,

and it is thwarted.

Thwarted, I tell you, gubernatorial appointments for no other reason than it can.

So why should Wisconsin voters turn over to them?

What is now the governor's job to spend federal funds like the state receives for things like

the environment, health care, roads and disaster relief?

Well, you shouldn't.

I'll give you a little more of the Dave's Weafel, but the moral of the story,

vote no twice on the constitutional amendments.

And then come back and listen to the next Tuesday.

Devils have gets, uh, still got plenty of this show.

Stick around.

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Have kids ready to show the Thursday edition.

Rich, you playing the vinyl version?

Be nice if we had some turntables in there.

Two turntables in a microphone and rich,

lightly screened near phone calls at 844-967-2789.

A little bit more from Dave's Weafel at the cap times.

We were detailing the unpopularity of the Wisconsin state legislature.

I mean, from a polling perspective, they suck.

And you wonder why?

Well, Dave's Weafel tells you in part why it is that the voters and the people

pulled here in the state of Wisconsin have such a god-offel opinion of the state legislators.

When it couldn't get, according to Dave, conservative legislation passed the governor.

Things like outlawing private donors from helping fund elections.

They, the Republican-controlled legislature, used their jerry-mandered dominance

to put constitutional amendments on the ballot.

The 23-24 legislature has considered more constitutional amendments

than have been proposed in the last 20 years.

In the last two years, we've had more of these than the last 20 years.

In the two that would take away the governor's power to direct federal funds are just the latest.

Although the Republican leaders were perfectly fine with former gubernator,

Scotty Wanker, I mean, Scott Walker, dispensing federal funds.

They didn't like Tony Evers having the same power, especially when federal funds directed.

And COVID relief, and later the sweeping infrastructure act

significantly increased Wisconsin's share of the one-time federal aid.

So, GOP legislatures engineered a way to get around the governor by passing

two proposed referendum questions to amend the state's constitution.

The proposed amendments would give them power to approve or disapprove the governor's decisions.

What could possibly go wrong here, folks?

And just to give the pair of referendums a better chance at election time,

they placed them on the August 13th primary ballot, which will undoubtedly be a low turnout

election, where perhaps 12 to 13% of the state's voters could easily be enough to pass them.

Aside from the machinations behind the two proposals, one would declare the legislature

can't delegate the power to appropriate money, the second would give legislators veto power

over the governor's funding choices. It would subject the timely dispersal of funds

to the chaotic whims of 132 legislators who rarely can agree on anything.

We saw a costly example of that when Wisconsin legislatures failed to convene in time

to get $25 million in funding from the Federal Care Act that was provided, you know,

extra unemployment benefits during the height of the pandemic.

To get the money, the legislature needed to tweak its jobless rules.

But Republican leaders didn't schedule a timely session.

And the League of Women voters pointed out that, unfortunately, the proposed constitutional

amendments questions threatened to delay the federal funds we rely on during times of crisis.

Here's a quote, our federal tax dollars are essential, supporting everything from farmers

and small businesses to food banks and education. Adding unnecessary red tape will only slow down

the process, keeping crucial resources from reaching those in need. We must ensure that our

governor can allocate those funds efficiently and effectively. But, Zweifel writes,

there's nothing nonpartisan about the two questions voters will be asked to approve next week.

They are part of a concerted effort by this highly partisan Wisconsin legislature to weaken

the executive branch, a process that began even before Evers assumed the office after winning the

2018 election. Alarmed that their leader, Scotty Wanker had lost, the Republicans quickly convened

a lame duck session to remove some of the governor's powers that Walker had enjoyed during his tenure.

And in the year since the GOP legislatures have been unrelenting and throwing monkey wrenches into

the machinery of state government, refusing to release approved funds for PFAS cleanup,

secretly withholding money and land stewardship programs,

blackmailing, and this was very calling. Blackmailing the university system by withholding funds

unless it stopped diversity efforts, making it next to impossible for the governor,

to fill vacant positions at everything from the board of regents, to the national resources

boards, and all kinds of commissions and committees. Zweifel concludes,

little wonder that just a third of Wisconsinites would give the legislature credit for doing its job.

He encourages, as does Crudey, vote no next Tuesday to keep them from creating yet more mischief.

Yeah, that's one way of putting it. 844-967-2789, I see you mark, be a little patient,

you could be first today, and the rest of you join in behind mark, a little more descriptor

from the data bank over at the UrbanMilwaukee.com. What Tuesday's elections tell us?

Bruce Thompson writes, a little bit more, I know it's reading the louding, but you know, bear with.

Wisconsin's primary election next Tuesday is likely to be a low turnout, sleepy affair,

in the partisan part of the ballot, many of the lines will be blank, except for an opportunity to

write in a name. You know, you could always write in my name, folks. You ever need a fill in the

blank name Crudey fits nicely in every fill in the blank. Candidate's names will appear only

of two or more Democrats or two or more Republicans are running for the same office. In with

one exception and two constitutional amendments, no statewide races will appear on the ballot.

The exception is the Republican primary for US Senate to watch three candidates running

against Tammy Baldwin in November. However, of the three only Eric Hudvey has gained much attention

from the press and or other places. Despite this, the run up to the election raises several ongoing

issues for Milwaukee and Wisconsin. Now, data, Wank, Bruce Thompson's going to take a look.

The first is a tendency for some suburban politicians to blame Milwaukee for their problems.

The second is the illustration of the tendency of Republican leaders in the state legislature to

try and expand their powers over the other branches of government, i.e. the constitutional amendments.

So he continues to recent Milwaukee Journal Sentinel articles illustrate the tendency to play

Milwaukee. Claudia Levins and Eva Wynn, the reporters covering the two candidates running for

Waukesha County District Attorney, note that both candidates have been blaming residents of

Milwaukee County for most of the county's problems. That's Waukesha County's problems.

You know, our problems all stem from a different county. The article is examined the two candidates,

both Republican running for Waukesha County District Attorney and since no Democrats running for

the position, the winner of the primary is the effective winner. Now, examining the historical data,

reporters conclude the cases involve residents of two counties are about equal. However,

they found that Waukesha County residents outnumbered those from Milwaukee County in more

serious misdemeanor and felony charges. By comparison, they found that significantly more

Milwaukee County residents than Waukesha County residents were charged with lower level traffic

offenses such as operating a vehicle with revoked license or suspension. Now, they quote Brown

University Scientology and almost its Scientology. It's a different thing. Sociology professor Jason

Eason is noting that violent crime in particular doesn't spill over from neighborhood to neighborhood

across racial lines. Data from the Milwaukee Homicide Review Commission's dashboard were considered

with Eason's comments. Now, he's using graphs. They don't work on the radio, so I'm going to skip that,

but let's talk about the constitutional amendments for a minute. The second interesting aspect of

the upcoming primary election is Wisconsin's Jerry Mandered Legislature attempt to use the constitutional

amendment process to shift power to itself from the governor and there are two elements to this

strategy used by the legislature to ensure the proposals would pass. First, the proposal was

structured as amendment to the Constitution rather than as an act that's avoiding a veto from

the governor. You know, their job is to pass acts and the governor's job is to decide whether or not

their meritorious becoming law. Well, Tony doesn't sign so many of their crazy bills. Certainly not

ones that would handcuff him and make our government more inefficient so they could have some sort

of partisan, whatever. So, you know, that's hence the constitutional amendments. They write on

DataWonk Bruce Thompson at the online daily UrbanMilwaukee.com rights. Second, when it turned out that

last year, spring election was likely to have high turnout, the legislature delayed action on the

amendments so they would be considered at this month's election whose turnout was likely to be

very low. The assumption here is low turnout, elections, favorite Republicans. And two constitutional

amendments are on Tuesday's ballot. The second, when in the governor's ability to spend federal

monies without the legislature's approval, thus ending the governor's ability to react quickly in

crisis. What a time to handcuff the governor in the middle of a crisis. And nobody seems to know

what the effect of the first would be. It would provide the legislature may not delegate its sole

power to determine how monies shall be appropriated. Now, Thompson writes, one possibility is that it

aims to inject the legislature into the execution of Wisconsin law. If so, it would seem to violate

the principle of separation of powers. So we got constitutional amendment one with an unclear

motive. It's not written for clarity, say, none of these are. They're written really to confuse

the electorate. You don't know what the hell you're voting on here. I know there are some very good

people that have early voted that I've heard reports voted yes. No, that's not the right answer.

You vote no on these, but they didn't know. And they were confused. Why? Because they're written

in a confusing fashion. The wording of these constitutional amendments don't tell you what they do.

They don't tell you anything. It's very can, it'd be like putting a trigonometry, a trigonometry

question on a test, not giving you the input numbers you would need to actually answer the question

and saying answer the question. Well, I don't know the answer. You still got to pick an answer.

Hamburger A or hamburger B. I'm going to tell you, pass on the hamburgers. You don't need them.

And they aren't really hamburgers. They probably have E. coli in this bad analogy. So anyways,

vote no on the constitutional amendments. Vote yes. I'm calling the devil's advocate show.

Doesn't cost you nothing. It's free. You can do it. At least once per day. I'm trying to bring up my

little thing here, but Mark from the sack, you're going to be first today. Thank you for your

patience. What do you got from me, Mark? Yeah, thanks. Thanks. And maybe those for those folks that

voted yes, they should reclaim their balance because they voted early because you can reclaim

that balance and recast it. And we'll actually vote no. I mean, that that anytime anything is so

confusing, you should actually just vote no as a matter of just to be your gut reaction because

you should know there's some referee that they're trying to pull over Scotts and Legislatures trying

to pull that it is just sad that they're, you know, that the fact would just gals me to no end

is that these are not written in the constitutional language. They're written in confusing language as

well, we'll come up with something later on for the actual language, but you just let us do this.

And that's just nonsense. I mean, that it is an anthem. It should be an anthem of any citizen

that to allow the legislature to pull this crap because the Constitution is too important

to allow them to play these kind of little games with it. I mean, they should be ashamed of

themselves. But you know, Mark, they're going to say this is direct democracy. We're taking it to

the people of the state of Wisconsin. You're voting on these constitutional amendments, whether or not

we've written them in a cogent way, whether or not you could possibly discern what we're asking you

to determine or whether it's going to look like trigonometry on the page. Mark, they're claiming

it's democracy at its best. Hogwash, it's fascism at its worst, pure and simple.

Well said, Mark, appreciate your call. Thanks for listening. Folks, we are the devil's

African radio show. And there is a proper way to eat the cream puff. And we have a Tony

Evers cream puff tutorial. I don't know if you know, but what the state fair going on, Tony Evers

has declared August 10th. What is that? Saturday, August 10th, this Saturday, cream puff day,

all across the great state of Wisconsin. But the question becomes, how do you eat the cream puff?

Tony says there is only one proper way. So I'll share it with you so you can enjoy

the way the governor enjoys them. Holy mackerel. Stick around more devil's

advocates. A cream puff tutorial is only Tony Evers can give it. And you can also join us

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Welcome back to the devil's Appetites radio show. It is a Madison night market evening right

down here on state street. I'm looking out the window. Much hubbub going on. They're assembling

the wares. People are coming down. They're closing down state street. You know, so you can walk

and be safe down here. But come on down state street. A Madison night market evening. I believe

there'll be a contention of civic media people down there. I bet they got swag. Come see them.

200 block of state streets. I may even poke my nose down there after six o'clock. Sort of red

and sunburned Rudolph style. Appreciate you listening 844-967-2789. I will be checking the

text line. Haven't done so yet. Because I've got important news. According to the governor of the

great state of Wisconsin, you know him. You love him. He's Tony Evers. And he's got some advice

on the proper way to eat a state fair cream puff. And he has declared August tense cream puff

day all across the state of Wisconsin. That used to be something you said about your opponent,

right? This guy's a cream puff. I want to whoop his ass. Apparently not in Wisconsin. And I will

make a small confession. I think I've eaten one cream puff in my life. Not a fan. And the reason

I'm not a fan is because they're so freaking messy, which I guess is the point of why Tony Evers

has a special way of eating the cream puff. According to the journal, this is the most important

journalism you're going to hear all day. How do you eat a cream puff at the Wisconsin state fair

without making a mess? Tony Evers style. Governor Tony Evers, arguably one of the most

focal supporters of the annual tradition has a way to enjoy the sweet treat in order not to make

a complete fool of yourself. Well, that never stopped me before Tony. You have to get it in half.

That way you're not getting it all over yourself. According to Evers, you kind of take it,

twist it a little bit. And then one side comes up. And that's the only way to eat it. Evers says,

I know it's a lot more fun to get it all over your face and all over your clothes. But I prefer

eating it rather than worrying about taking a shower. It's still okay to take a shower, Tony.

Another part of the eating a cream puff, Evers style, taking a view home, put them in the freezer,

and later cutting them in half with a sharp knife that cuts down the mess even more.

It's a perfect food, Evers tells the journal Sentinel at the Wisconsin state fairer Wednesday

afternoon. Now, there is a history of politics and cream puffs at the state fair.

Wisconsin governors and cream puffs have a long history. The original cream puff debuted

at the fair in 1924 at the request of John Blaine, Wisconsin's 24th governor who wanted to showcase

the state's dairy industry, former Republican gubernator Scotty Wanker championed the cream puff

because he's a loser. No, I'm just reading here. Former Republican governor,

Scott Walker also championed the cream puffs at the state fair requesting $6 million in a state

budget in 2017 to renovate and expand the cream puff pavilion.

$6 million Wanker, and in 2021, Evers encouraged people to get a COVID-19 vaccination at the state

fair and sweetened the deal with the free cream puff. Oh, those were the good old days weren't they

Tony? This year, Evers issued a proclamation declaring Saturday, August 10th is cream puff day

across Wisconsin in honor of the foods, 100th anniversary at the fair, and there was some pushback

on the governor's move. Of course, there was. You know, Robin Voss took objection with it being

declared cream puff day. Let me read from this reporting. Speaker Robin Voss said Evers should

be paying more attention to issues like crime and inflation rather than cream puffs.

They should recall your ass again. I read on state far, uh, fairs are a common summer appearance

for governor senators and other politicians, especially in the Midwest, neighboring governor Tim

Walson, Minnesota, the new running made advice president Kamala Harris recently went viral for

going on a slingshot ride with his daughter in 2013. And Evers said he's been attending the

state fair with his wife Kathy for 55 years. Tony, that's longer than I've been alive. Sometimes

he can be spotted serving up the cream puffs, the customers. Here's quote, we usually end up

talking about politics, something that's concerning them or something that they think went well,

Evers said they don't usually ask me about cream puffs because they're already in line. They've

already purchased it. It's mainly how's it going? Or why did you do this? Or why didn't you do that?

Oh, Tony, he's, he's a dynamo of this guy. And a big cream puff fan apparently. Evers also

attended the state fair last week posting a video of himself standing with a brat in a cow-printed

baseball head at his hip. It was a reference to the brat summer, a meme that is resonated with

young voters after pop singer Charlie XC X endorsed Harris. It's just a fun place. People are here

not to talk about politics too much. They're here to have fun. It's always fun having people

recognize you and having a chance to talk to them. Yes, it is a brat summer here in the state of

Wisconsin. You know, it was funny. I think it was Tim Walls yesterday at the rally in O'Clair. He

was talking about things that that paired. Maybe it was Evers. Evers did a little preliminary speech

before Walls came to the stage. And he was trying to pair up things. And the thing that

gained the most enthusiasm from the crowd of about 15,000 in O'Clair, the pairing that just

says Wisconsin. Broughtson beer. And 15,000 people just said that's enough. They'd heard

their epiphany. That's all they need to hear. That they roared for. Folks, we're at the

doubles. I have kids. David will get you next hour if you stick around. Thrust you. Be like David,

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