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Dominic, great news. There has been a prisoner exchange and three Americans have been released.
And Joe Biden apparently made this deal reportedly hours before relinquishing the candidacy,
the nomination of the Democratic party. He made this deal on the same day he chose to withdraw
from the presidency. Maybe I would do that. This was a big deal. You give up, you know, the political
win, Krut. Uh, what I think it says so much more about about President Joe Biden, uh, well done.
And it is kind of a BFD. Evan Gershkovic, others freed by Russia in landmark prisoner swap.
The United States, Russia, in Germany, and four other countries swapped at least two dozen
people today in the largest prisoner exchange since the height of the Cold War. Those released
included American journalist Evan Gershkovic, my bad former Marine Paul Wheelan, Russian
dissidents and others from the United States, Germany, Poland, Slovenia, Norway, Russia,
and Belarus. In my understanding, Dom, they're in American custody. They are safe at this point.
These these Americans. And last I saw there was a picture of them in Turkey, uh, in a airport
lounge. But the president, and I'm talking about Joe Biden in this case, the president had
plenty of things to say. He give statements from the White House. He took questions today.
And he ended on high note, um, and I appreciate this high note. So rich with your cooperation and
assistance. Let's play for the audience. This a very important day. Let's play President Joe Biden
addressing it. Cut number one, please.
This is an incredible relief for all the family members gathered here. It's relief to the
friends and colleagues all across the country who've been praying for this day for a long time.
Uh, more from the president cut to presidential Biden.
We're anyone to questions with allies matter. They do. They matter. And today's a powerful example
of why it's vital to have friends in this world. The prison or swap included political prisoners
according to Biden cut three. It says a lot about the United States that we work relentlessly
to free Americans who are unjustly held around the world. It also says a lot about us that this
deal includes the release of Russian political prisoners. They stood up for democracy and human
rights. Their own leaders stood them in prison. The United States helped secure their release as
well. And more from the president from the White House today, Joe Biden on this historic prisoner
swap deals like this one come with tough calls. There never any guarantees. If there's nothing
that matters more to me, protecting Americans at home and abroad. And we've got one more
from presidential Biden. Actually, I think we've got two more, right? We've got one more first
presidential Biden describing the conversation with the prisoner families. Play for the people,
cut five please. Moments ago, the families and I were able to speak to them on
the telephone from the Oval Office. They're out of Russia. Earlier the day, they're flown to Turkey
and soon they'll be wheels up on their way home to see their families. Wheels up. I love that term.
And then before Joe Biden exited this press conference at the White House,
he did take one question. And it was a question should have been right out of Peter Ducey's mouth,
although I know it wasn't. But you've got this for the people of rich. Let's hear the question
and the president's response. And then as the network takes the coverage, they also had a comment
about the president's response. Let's play it for the people of rich.
Any grid? Any walked out? What they call a mic drop moment at the end there. Why didn't you do it
when he was president? What a historic moment. Watching and listening president. So almost immediately,
almost immediately today, Dom, I heard Donald Trump on righty whitey talk radio. He called in
the clay and buck. And you know, of course he says this is a terrible deal. It's terrible deal.
You know, because some concession was made to the Russians. And he wouldn't made any concessions
because, you know, Pudi never made any concessions to Pudi. And I'm thinking I saw you and I'll
say, man, you're right, man. It was really profane what you did to the man on the international stage.
And by the way, if you wonder, Gersh Kovic has been in custody in Russia for about a year.
But the former Marine, Whalen, it's been over five years. He was captured during Trump's presidency.
So his Trump talks a big game literally. President Joe Biden says then why didn't he do it
when he was president? And it stinks because it's true. It is true. A huge deal. Nothing like
this since the Cold War, today's swap of 24 prisoners surpassed a deal involving 14 people
that was struck in 2010. 24 prisoners like six countries plus Turkey involved. According to the
AP, the Biden administration has now brought home more than 70 Americans, detained in other
countries as part of deals that have required the US to give up a broad array of convicted criminals,
including for drug and weapons offenses. You heard Joe bring him home. And two, you know,
the Republicans to mega wasn't Trump out there saying, I'll bring him home. I'll make it happen.
Only I can make it. And apparently this deal has been in the works for a couple of years.
And Navalny, the Russian dissident who was murdered was originally supposed to be part of it
as well. But obviously that did not happen. Tough calls. The president of the United States,
Joe Biden talked about the tough call. The tough part of that is a Russian killer was included
in this exchange. And he had been captured by the Germans, multi-national exchange here. It's
reminds me of like the trading deadline in baseball when they make like a certain player deal with
players to be named later and all that kind of stuff. Not nearly as not nearly as fun,
but certainly joyous for those families. Certainly joyous for the families and a major
accomplishment. You know, it's funny. Rap Nancy Mace today, you know, one of the
many magas out there talking trash about the president, Joe Biden. Joe Biden's been MIA,
she claimed. And three minutes later, this news dropped. And I'm just thinking that didn't
age well. Not age well. Not at all. And not at all. Do you think the Republicans would be
celebratory on behalf of these now return prisoners? Do you think they'd be happy for the American
people? Hell to the nose, the answer, man. I heard your girl, Vicki McKenna sing. This is the worst
deal ever brokered in American history. And Trump's already out there trashing it. Oh, yeah, here's
what Trump had to say now. Let's see if you can tell what he didn't say. We never made good,
we never make good deals at anything, but especially hostage swaps. Our court of
court negotiators are always an embarrassment to us. I got back many hostages and gave the
opposing country nothing and never any cash to do so as a bad precedent for the future. That's
where it should be or this situation will look at worse and worse. They are extorting the United
States of America. They're calling the trade complex. That's the nobody can figure out how bad it is.
Not welcome home to our fellow citizens and he didn't acknowledge any of the prisoners by name.
Oh, a victory for diplomacy, right? I mean, there's always tough calls to be made. Certainly,
President said that again, and it's always going to be the case in these kinds of situations.
But I guarantee you those family members are happy that their home, even if Trump lost this
particular political hammer, where is the love for the citizens? Man, are you happy
their home? Can you even acknowledge it? Of course, he cannot because to do so would do what
gives some positive remarks about the current administration, even though that's not who he's
running against. It's just terrible. He claims to be this big patriot, but when people are
actually released and coming home, you can't muster up the courage to actually say something
nice about them. Interesting. Last night, not only did Trump apparently
crap the bed and rolling it at the National Association of Black Journalists, he standard
dumb, never crap the bed. Never ever. By the admission of writing commentators, this was a
God awful performance, but let's not forget. No, Scott Jennings said that. That was not his only
appearance last night. He also had a little rally in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania right down the
road from the prior shooting at Trump, right? And during his campaign rally in Harrisburg,
Trump relived the the moments he would be assassins bullet nearly missed him while speaking in
Butler earlier in the in the month, Trump held the moment of silence for Corey Comparatory. I'm
sorry, if I'm mispronouncing the name, the former fire chief killed during the rally,
but not without adding his flavor of commentary. Here's what he said.
But you know, Corey's wife said, I'd rather have my husband. Isn't that good? I know a lot of
wives that would not say that. Sorry. You mean Melania. I think you're expressing a little too much
about your own marriage. Sure. You say Melania must like you or love you because she's so upset
she can't talk about it. I'm sure. I'm sure. What's this nice? I think she's still in
mourning for what could have been. I'm just saying. Some way terrible thing to say
about about what I mean, for real, you get really, man, this is what if you lost her husband and
this is this is the love and compassion you can muster. Yeah, some of them want to kill their
hosts. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, Melania, you know, are you listening? What?
This is just so unfit for everything. I bet he's got a clause in the prenup
just to try and keep himself from taking a bullet from the misses. You know what I'm saying?
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I want to give a little more coverage on this historic prisoner swap. The eventual prisoner swap
that saw Gersh Kovic in Whalen returned to the US took place five months after the death of
Russian opposition leader, Alexey Navalny in the Arctic prison camp despite talks to get him
released involving both the US and Germany. And two allies continued working on a deal
for other prisoners up until Biden's surprise announcement, according to the Wall Street Journal.
Here's what they said. President Biden about an hour before he notified the world he was
dropping out of the presidential race on July 21st called the prime minister of Slovenia,
whose country was contributing to convicted Russian spies to the swap to secure the part necessary
for the deal to proceed. CIA director William Burns traveled to Turkey last week to meet his
counterpart there and finalize the logistics of the swap. That's where his mind was before he dropped
out of the presidential race. And as people were pressing him, remember it was all about the poles
and the fact that Joe Biden was perhaps a drag on the Democratic Party, pardon me.
But that's where his mind was, securing the release of Americans in hour before he declared
he was dropping out of the presidential race. And in retrospect, I mean, what important moments, what
the gravity of the decisions he was making in real time, dude, I admire more for this knowing this
news. Now maybe this was part of the delay in him choosing to drop out of the presidential race,
maybe had big deal. He was working out. And only today we find out about it.
And to his point about having friends, obviously had that there are other countries involved.
And I did hear him the president reference the German chancellor because that was a big fish
that assassin that Germany had caught in prison. And he was personally called by the president
to my understanding and acquiesce to it. So yeah, it does matter, you know, relationships as the
president said, those things matter. A break according to this reporting, a breakthrough in the
negotiations came in February. This has been going on for months, folks, when German chancellor
Olaf Shoals, not with the president that's Joe Biden in the Oval Office, and they discussed a
potential offer to Russia that would have included. Cress, I cough, that's the Russian assassin,
Whalen, Gerskiewicz, and Navalny. I believe Cress, a cough is the assassin they wanted back.
For you, I will do this. Shoals told Biden, according to senior administration officials,
maybe that's some of the friendship he's talking about. Right. Now Navalny died seven days later
under mysterious circumstances. I would suspect he was murdered. And the offer collapsed
before it was presented to Moscow, but vice president Kamala Harris met privately with Shoals
any conference in Munich, distressed the importance of releasing, again, this Russian assassin
a convicted Cress, a cough, and she met with Robert Golub, the prime minister of Slovenia to continue
the negotiations. So the vice president also involved in putting this deal to bed. The negotiations
reportedly continued into the summer before Biden finalized the deal. He then released a statement
announcing he would not seek reelection and then endorsed his vice president for the democratic
nomination. Joe said a little busier summer than we were aware. Yeah, 11 days ago. Right.
844-967-2789. And of course, Donald Trump's claimant, I would have done it better. I would have
given no concessions because, you know, I got such a great release relationship with Putin.
Don't believe it for a minute. 844-967-2789. When people start asking you, can you help me? What are
some of the accomplishments of vice president Kamala Harris? Well, apparently she was instrumental
in negotiating the release of these prisoners from Russia. She helped put this deal to bed. She
personally met with the prime minister. She personally got involved. She went to Munich to make
this deal. What did Trump do? Oh, yeah. Nothing. 844-967-2789. And Jack, you've been very patient. Thank
you. Welcome to the show. What do you got for us? Hey, Jack. Thank you.
Yeah, it seems that the surrogates for Trump are calling Kamala Harris not competent, not prepared
to the presidency. Well, she's had three and a half, almost four years now of essentially working
as an understudy to Joe Biden, who is phenomenal on foreign policy. I personally think, regardless
of whether you agree with that or not, but she's had a lot of time to learn that job from somebody
who is clearly a political nafter. To say she is not competent is just absolutely outrageous.
What are they supposed to say, Jack? She's so clearly better than our crazy guy. I mean, what are
they supposed to say about her? I wouldn't make the racially tensed in the misogynistic attacks. I might
go after policy, but when she is so much better than the candidate that they galvanized around,
you better tear her down because your guy's no good, Jack. Yeah, well, he's not my guy by the way.
No, I know. I know. I clearly, Jack, we know you to be a sensible caller. He's not your guy.
Anyway, I volunteer with a couple of theater companies and I see a lot of plays and I see a lot
of understudies with only a few weeks of experience going on and doing an incredibly good job.
She will do an incredibly good job when she gets elected. I am confident of that.
Anytime, virtually everybody except Trump's relatives, who ever was in his White House,
has stated how incompetent and crazy he is. It's like the, I think it was Joseph Gibble,
who was Hitler's Minister of Propaganda, said something like accuse the other side of that of which
you are guilty and boy, there's your doing that. Absolutely. I hear Jimmy just call it gaslighting,
Jack, and they do it, they do it all the time. And it's not just the capabilities of Kamala Harris.
I fully expect she'll bring together a competent team, a competent team that are more than just her
son-in-law and some sick of fans. You know, I understand JD fans have been the understudy in
summer stack. You know the play, Taming of the Shrew. Maybe you're unfamiliar, Shakespeare. Look
him up. Kind of a big deal. Like us. You wrote some books. More Devils Advocates. I think it was mostly
plays. Occupy didn't start on Wall Street. It started on our street. The Devils Advocates.
Welcome back to the Devils. Epcot's video showed the Thursday edition. We'll take your calls in
just a moment. 844-967-2789. I'll be monitoring the text line because someone's got to do it.
But um, there's only one logical conclusion on this prisoner swap today. It's a testament to Trump's
strength. That's what his vice presidential candidate has sent his statement down.
Senator JD Vance Republican from Ohio suggested today that the fear of a second Trump administration
motivated Russia to agree with the historic prison swap with you prisoner swap with the US.
Vance former president Trump's 2024 running mate called the prisoner exchange great news.
In an interview with CNN, we certainly want these Americans to come back home. It was ridiculous.
They weren't present to begin with. But we have to ask ourselves, where are they coming home?
And I think it's because bad guys over all over the world recognize Donald Trump's about to be back
in office. So they're cleaning house. That's a good thing. And I think it's testament to Donald Trump's
strength. Wow. I didn't know you could sick of fans so much. That's some serious sick of
fans and going on there, baby. Months long multi-national negotiations. Months long. Years long, dude.
Thank God for Trump. That's all I've got to say. 844-967-2789. LA time. Welcome back. How's it going
on the leftist coast? Hey, hey, guys. First off, I'm sure, gosh, no radio rules. First off,
we the people ultimately, I'll be government. I'll never forget that. I just hope that Joe Biden
keeps on stealing the news cycle every day from here until the election. Because the best thing we
can do is just not even just ignore Donald Trump. Because you know what? He doesn't answer question.
I want to know what you guys think about the idea from now on, whether it's a democratic candidate
or Republican candidate, that when a journalist asks a question and they don't answer that question,
can they say this interview is over? To what end? To what end? Sure. We could have had Ron Johnson
on 25 times and he wouldn't sufficiently ask the question as we posted to him. Interview is over.
Tom, come on, man. It is the journalist job to continue to strive for the truth, not to give up
after one no. Well, I know, but like, when that woman yesterday asked all those questions to Trump
and he started going off in a totally different direction, she should have been able to say right
there. And then sir, if you can't answer the questions, then this interview is over. And I think
she would have got a lot more out of it. I also think that, you know, you look at Kamala's rally
yesterday. What did she talk about? Child care, child care tax credit, health care,
taxing the billionaire class, rent control. That's what she talked about. He didn't even talk about
anything that has to do with the topic of the questions that were being asked. And I think that
we, the people should be holding him more feet to the fire somehow. So it just doesn't become where
he gets the news cycle. I just don't like it. So Joe Biden gets the news cycle every day, because
that will drive Donald Trump. I'm sorry, man, your phone's a little loud today. Sure, I don't
dislike that plan, but I would rather see the Democratic nominee featured in the news cycle
more often. And I think Joe probably has been standing back a bit. But when something like this
happens, he is the president of the United States. He made this deal. And we now learn he made
this deal before he pulled the trigger and stepping down as the presidential nominee of the Democratic
Party, which to me adds more gravity to both decisions. But I still like to hear what Harris is
doing each and every day. She's coming to Western Wisconsin next Wednesday, damn, I'll be there.
We'll talk about it all day long on the devil's advocates. But we still got some stuff to talk
about today. But to two to LA top's point, thinking for the call time, appreciate. I mean,
it's certainly something that I kind of struggle with as well. We have this conversation.
You do, would you, is there anybody you wouldn't interview? That kind of thing. And when you do
interview them, yeah, you don't have talked about this when Ron Johnson specifically, but hell,
is there any historical figure that you would not interview if you had the option to do it? Right?
Well, there's some I wouldn't care to interview, but there's no one I would refuse to interview.
But by the fact that you interview them, you give them a platform that could be, you know,
terrible, terrible people giving them that platform. Well, it's my job to bring out the truth
of their beliefs or their ideologies. It is my job as a journalist. It's the questioner,
as the interviewer, to help present that information to the people and let them judge.
It's not your job, but the interviewer is to go score points. It's your job, but it's not true.
But this is that's the prompt that you present a guy like Donald Trump, who's involved in
his direction and rape and et cetera, et cetera, and put him to the same platform and the same,
oh, well, what do you think about Tech's rates, sir? And he presented as the same platform is
formally Biden or now Kamala Harris says, hey, these are two normal candidates. These are two
normal times and an act like one is not just a biggest POS ever and tried to overthrow the
government, man. I mean, isn't it to Tom's point, some of the media's responsibility, our
responsibility to point out, hey, this is not normal. This is not the same. These two people
are not the same. These two parties are not the same. Well, I would do that. I would certainly blame
the moderators, the commentators at the first CNN debate. I don't think they did a good job.
Of demonstrating how different these two candidates are. And obviously Joe Biden
faltered. And the next time we see candidates on the stage, it won't be Joe Biden and Trump.
It'll probably become a Harrison Trump, right? So we will see how the next debate runs.
But I thought Scott, I thought Rachel, Scott, I believe her name for me, you see, damn,
I don't think you could do journalism much better than that. She has very pointed question.
She set context very nasty question. I can't believe I've never been asked the nasty or question.
Well, we saw his reaction to being pinned down. He's very nasty, very nasty.
I can't believe it. And then she asked the series of tough, difficult questions.
The January 6th stuff. I'm pretty sure that was Scott that was trying to pin him down,
whether or not he would pardon these people that attacked cops and did all the different stuff.
She enumerated the actions. Oh, yeah, pardon him. Oh, if they're innocent,
well, by virtue of the fact they're convicted, that's why they need the pardon.
They're not innocent. I was there convicted in DC. Hard to get a fair trial there.
You know, it's like New York. And also, I'm not sure which one of the ladies.
But it was we talked about as we talked about. Now he's all over the front new.
Oh, there's no bad press for Donald Trump. And now he's back in the side.
I was talking about his misogyny and his racism. Okay, Trump doesn't mind.
His mega don't mind. I mean, certainly there's a few that would think he crapped the bed.
But to hit if his goal was to get back in the papers, man, he did it. And the journalist
that interviewed him, I think she did a great job. But the fact that you're doing it,
provided that platform. Some folks at the association resigned when this went down.
So I'm just saying there's and it's it's no right answer. Perhaps, you know, it depends on
the journalist. It depends on what you're what you're trying to accomplish. But, you know,
giving giving nut jobs platforms. I mean, Charlie Manson for crying out loud, right?
You know, you're going to give him a platform to continue on. I mean, this is basically what this
feels like to me. Well, as far as I know, Trump is not a known or convicted serial killer.
Nor has he directed the serial killing of the neighbors to this point. I mean, he had a
hell of a COVID response. But, you know, I don't think it's right to compare him with Manson to
attack the Capitol, bro. I mean, it may not be as fancy as the 60s and weirds that was in
California with Charlie Manson, but he sent his family out. You know what I'm saying?
Those cats went to the Capitol and they beat the hell out of those cops in order to what?
What are you trying to convince me that there is someone I shouldn't interview in history,
Dom, because I have no fear of interview subjects. I've stated this many times. Don't be a
voice. Even if even if you pin them down, she did a great job. I can't think if anything from
the cut-size saw that Rachel Scott, I believe her name was yesterday, uh, could have done any better.
But his goal was accomplished. He's all over the newspapers.
To what? I forgot awful crap in the bed reasons, dude. If you think the American,
you learned anything you didn't already know about Donald Trump. Did I learn anything? Yeah,
I think I did. I learned that he is willing to go on a national stage in front of journalists
and express racially insensitive views about his running mate. He hadn't done that publicly,
right? He had never... Well, I mean, not to the running mate, but certainly,
now that those folks coming over some extra, I'm sure it's a very nice. If you'd never
asked the question, no one ever gives you an answer and they never make any news. So,
unless you're saying we should all advocate journalism, which I kind of feel like Tom said we
should, I don't agree. It is our job to ask the questions. We can't make them answer the questions,
but they are exposed by their failure to answer directly given questions. They're exposed by the
crazy ranting stuff they do. Now, the average reasonable American person who's not
drank the Kool-Aid or the diet, do or whatever it is that you got to do to join that cult.
The average American person saw that and thought this man crept the bed. This man is racist.
This man is a misogynist. Even the Republicans are asking him, can you just get on board with your
own campaign and please stop doing this. There are people from the Republican side two days,
saying Donald Trump is so bad he should step aside. Not Democrats, not guys like you and I,
but Republicans are saying that based on his performance yesterday, I'd never seen that before.
So, I would say if he wants to go and be that kind of awful in this fine radio program,
hell-to-the-eyed interview him, and if he didn't answer the questions the way they were
posed to him, I would expect no less. I've never met a politician that answered the questions
that were posed to him. Very few. 844-967-2789 Chris from Sun Forever. You are next welcome, Chris.
What do you got for us? You Chris. Hi, wow. I kind of talked about Biden, but I like this
subject. Yeah, I kind of agree with both of you. I think the reporter asked great questions. I
think she asked the questions that everybody wanted to ask, but maybe couldn't because they were on
the network. And I think it was great getting him on the record saying the things he said. I hope the
Democrats use them in every election ad they have. And I think it just shows who he was.
Biden, I really worry, the original cause is going to make I really worry about what was
happening with president time. Like you said, he was making big decisions. And I still feel like
even bullied women news by networks and people that have a lot of money. And I don't think that
should happen. I don't think that should be something that should happen. I believe in freedom of
speech, but I don't believe that that's what that was. Well, Chris, what was I doing when I expressed
that I thought that Joe Biden could no longer win the race? When I came on the radio program,
I'm media just like any other media source. My platform may not be as big as ABC news. But I
was calling for Joe Biden to step down. I was expressing my first amendment opinion. I don't
have any sway over that. But cumulatively, a lot of media outlets were doing the same thing at the
same time. But we saw Joe Biden, Chris, you were at the very more theater that night. You saw him.
That guy wasn't going to win the election. I disagree with you still. The polls tell me
otherwise. Chris, I mean, come on. He was so far underwater, he was not going to win.
After he was driven down and down and down for weeks in the polls by people in the news, I agree with you.
Well, I don't think we're agreeing, Chris, but I appreciate the generosity of your sentiment.
I don't think we made Joe into Joe. I mean, Joe is not as sharp as he once was.
Joe, still, a fine man. This is a major accomplishment. I'm not trying to denigrate Joe.
But Joe was the only one to make this decision. And you could say he was pressured. Sure.
That's how people make deals. There is pressure exerted all the time. There is
friendship and pressure and cajoling. I mean, hell, Donald Trump's never done anything that
wasn't a quid pro quo, man. But I'm just telling you, that is the nature of politics and life. People
persuade us. I would never wear pants if my wife didn't make me. She is very persuasive.
Well, you know, why would you wear pants? It's much more comfortable not to.
She's a persuasive woman though. She makes me wear them. Come back with us. 844-967-2789.
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I'm going to go back to the phone shortly at 844-967-2789.
Based on the advice of L.A. Tom, and seemingly, and I'm not trying to put words in your mouth,
Tom, but there were many aspects you seem to agree with him. It's all platforming Trump,
and it's all to the negative. Shouldn't even give the guy a platform. Shouldn't even ask the
questions. Well, by that logic, should Kamala Harris debate him? Because isn't that just
providing a platform for him to speak to the American people? Why even go to a debate? Why even
accept the invitation against your opponent if it's just going to lift up his candidacy?
I would disagree with that. I would say that's where you go in contrast. That's where you go
and you hold him accountable. This will be her only opportunity, talking about Kamala Harris,
to hold him accountable much as the journalist tried to do yesterday.
Tom, you were the first one to notice this. Rostra is reporting. They had someone on the panel
on MSNBC yesterday. I believe they were on the morning show. And the panelists said, at one point,
he even reached over to Titan, ABC news, Rachel Scott's water bottle. And you're the first person
that brought that to my attention time. I was watching it. I didn't see it. You and this journalist
sought, which is just an expression of dominance. He couldn't help himself. She elaborated. It was
almost as though he could not take personally take the fact that these black women on stage had the
platform. And this woman was being interviewed by Al Sharpton. Sharpton said, they belong on that
stage. You are a black woman. You shouldn't be questioning me. Right. Gay agreed.
Well, what do you think it's going to be like when black woman, Kamala Harris debates against
racist misogynist Donald Trump? Should he? Should she not debate him? Because she's going to what?
Inside him to say terrible things. He's not going to ask the question, answer the questions being
posed by the debate host. Of course, he's not. Of course, he's going to say outlandish and crazy things.
But shouldn't she want that contrast in his journalist? You're taking this conversation from
what do journalists do to what does a campaign do? What does like? Well, I would have brought
it back around. And while those are two totally separate entities and how do you get to the
missions? How do you get? Okay, fair enough. What's our mission as journalists to get to the truth,
right? To expose the truth, to report the truth as best we can. Okay. And did you learn anything
more about the misogyny or racism from Donald Trump? I learned a little something even when the
guy screwed the cap on the water bottle, which I was unaware of until that was reported until you
told me until I saw it in print. That is something new. I learned about the guy. He is so freaking
impulsive. He had a reach across stage and grab a water bottle and tighten the lid on so the woman
couldn't get her water bottle accessible, right? Wow. That to me is a sign of character that I
didn't know about this petty little piss-and-of-a-man before he went on that panel. And I would say the
only fault I would have with Rachel Scott was Harris Faulkner sitting down there trying to cushion
the blow of the questions for Donald Trump, you know, because I've tried to ask some questions in
panel style. And it's more difficult when someone else can interrupt your flow. Where do you want to
take it? Because sometimes you've got to set up the question. If Trump had any complaints about
Rachel Scott, she didn't ease into it. She didn't wind into it. She laid out the facts and she
hammered them with them. And he faltered. He crapped the bed. And that was absolutely newsworthy.
And the American people need to know it. And even if that gets Trump back in the news cycle,
so what? He was going to do something, say something, break something until he did. But he is the candidate
of the Republican party. It's not like no one's going to cover his ass. So I think it's very fair.
If I was offered the interview, I would absolutely take it because I trust that I'm going to see
through the BS. And I'm not going to allow him to snowplow me for an hour straight. I would fully
expect a handler to say we're done here. And in the interview early because he's getting asked
tough questions. 844-967-2789 Joe from Madison. Welcome back. Joe, what do you got for us?
Well, speaking of pissant, I'd like to return to Eric Hubby if I could. Sure, I'd like to
go away from Laguna Beach. I just wanted to look at the article that you mentioned from
Urban Milwaukee Bruce Murphy's article. Very, very good. And I'm curious. I wanted to just respond
to Mr. Silver Tongue from Laguna Beach. He was describing, he said, that there is advanced
your career through political appointments and she can't string sentences together. Okay, let's
talk about a woman. Okay, a woman who has degrees in polysigned econ who graduated law school,
University of California, San Francisco. And then more importantly was elected district attorney
of San Francisco. And then was elected attorney general of, yeah, attorney general of California,
and then elected senator of California. Understanding that this is California is 39 million people,
our biggest state, fifth in the world, largest economy in the world. But yet she feels that she
can't string sentences together and that these were all political appointments. An election is
not a political appointment. She went out, presented herself to the voters and they voted her in.
But clown boy from Laguna Beach really can't seem to grasp that particular idea that a political
appointment when you appoint someone to be, you know, ambassador of Switzerland is not the same
as going out and running for elections in the largest state in the union and making it. I don't
know. I'm just embarrassed that this guy is from our city and from our state. And I wish you
go back to Laguna Beach, which seems to be home for him and leave us alone.
Well, I think there's a strong possibility that will happen because the only political
appointment appointments Eric Hudby is ever going to get are going to be bought and paid for.
Maybe in Baster if he gave enough money to some elected official, right? But that doesn't make
me pay to play an elected official. Kamala Harris, she soon to be elected president of the
United States. I strongly suspect. Come back with us. We are the devil's advocates.
I would interview her as well. Would you give her a platform dime or are you afraid of her?
Absolutely. Oh, right. And nothing to do with being afraid, man.
Playing favorites. What is it then? Sure. Absolutely. Every time. More devils will play