An Unhappy Anniversary Of the Dobbs Decision

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Now here's your host, Dom and Croutes.

Welcome to the devil's advocates radio show bit Monday edition the two-year anniversary

adopts the ruling that overturned Roe v. Wade, down welcome to the big show.

Hey, Crouty, happy, happy Monday to you, Aaron, work at the board part for us.

Thank you, sir.

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And just for the record, it's a big debate week, and we were having one in our one,

where were you people?

Many of the textures like your intellectual purity, I, less so, but we're moving on because

we've got some fine guests to tell you about.

We're going to move forward topically, Dr. Kristin Leierley, a congressional candidate from

Green Bay, Wisconsin, joining the show at 430 today.

And you know, the Biden team's got quite a few surrogates out and about them.

In fact, Elizabeth Warren going to be in Madison at six o'clock tonight, IR SVP, Majestic

Theater.

You can all be there.

My understanding you might have to go let the Democratic Party know who you are.

You've got to give them some personal information.

So, you know, they can solicit you for your boat and some dollars and tell you about all

the big surrogates here on behalf of the Biden Harris campaign, including Senator Elizabeth

Warren.

And Aaron's got some sound of our Vice President, Aaron, and his star classes is sitting in

for Rich Today.

Aaron, if you would please play the Vice President, marking the two-year anniversary of

Dops.

Today, in America, one in three women, one in three women of reproductive age lives in

a state with an abortion ban, many with no exception even for rape or incest.

Today, our daughters know fewer rights than their grandmothers.

Donald Trump can pick three members of the United States Supreme Court because he intended

for them to overturn Roe v. Wade.

And as he intended, they did.

So it was premeditated.

Premeditated.

That word has sort of a special meaning, doesn't it, man?

Wow.

Coming in.

It's kind of a prosecutor's mouth.

One in three.

It is a stunning number, and this is exactly what Trump wants.

This is what Trump, it's all on him.

He's proud about it.

You want more of this than Trump's your guy, and there's certainly going to be some of

those out there.

But some of the stories, man, are just heartbreaking.

People can't get the care they need.

I mean, not every pregnancy goes perfect.

Obviously, I know there's maybe some old white guys that maybe don't understand exactly

how it works.

But, you know, and sometimes there needs to be an abortion for the sake of the baby,

for the mother, for the life of the mother, and so forth.

And the Republicans don't give it to him.

They don't.

They see sperm be a human being now, and all bets are off.

Go ahead, Aaron.

I actually, I was working as a pharmacy tech when dobs came through.

And there were multiple times where things happened, but the one that really stuck with

me is we got to call, like, hey, please be sensitive about this.

This mother just lost a very desired pregnancy.

I've been trying for years, finally had a baby, and now there's a miscarriage.

They need abortion drugs in order to not have a dead fetus and carry it around.

And the pharmacist was like, I might get arrested for this.

I can't do it because then I can't help other people.

And so this woman just had to surf around for pharmacies, and I don't really know what

happened ultimately.

But having her come through the drive-through and be like, hey, listen, we couldn't

do it.

It's just absolutely heartbreaking.

Wow.

That's terrible.

And then for the state, for the government to force the mother to do what?

Pass a dead fetus, because that's what their God says, I guess.

It's just, there's such practical implications to it, and women's lives are literally in danger.

I mean, they're going to have abortions to have.

Now they're just going to start dying more from it.

And so thank you, Republicans, if that's what you want, Trump's your guy.

Tom, I know that US and Iran Johnson won reelection in 2022.

That was the cycle of dobs.

But basically, he was the only one, right?

I mean, Evers won reelection, Josh called one reelection.

And since that point, we've seen proto-sabewits when a double-digit victory to the Wisconsin

Supreme Court.

And I would wonder, Dom, Republicans in this state.

And they still don't know how to answer the question.

Do they?

You know, what's the right answer?

I mean, Brian's still out there pushing some sort of meaningless referendum.

We got to ask the people, their opinions on abortion.

Well, why don't you allow them to make their own decisions on the topic, Brian?

Right.

There's an idea.

I mean, you are the freedom party, right?

You're about freedom and personal responsibility and small government.

Well, what is your government doing in the bedroom?

What is your government doing in the delivery room or in the abortion clinic?

Well, I heard a Republican state lawmaker from the state of Wisconsin today, Scott Kruege.

Discuss the fact, you know, you got to, you got to set some limitations on the women.

Otherwise, they're out there like infants carrying around guns.

And I thought what a strange analogy because you barely limit infants from carrying around

guns, but somehow you analogize that women are infantile in their decision-making process.

And therefore, sir, you must step in and make the very important decisions for them.

Because otherwise, they would make dangerous decisions if left to their own devices done.

And it is a bit of a paraphrase, but barely, barely, I mean, he was talking about, you

know, left to their own devices and be dangerous.

Women would be dangerous if left to make their own decisions.

That was his conclusion.

On Meg Alphasons, show, listen to a little Rady Whitey talk radio out at the Northwoods

on the way home this morning.

Oh, so that was, that was, this weekend, that was the Wisconsin, what state Republican legislator

had.

That was this morning driving down the road this morning, listen to the local, local get

interviewed.

Well, next thing that they're going to want to have, you know, credit cards, their own

bank accounts, and no fault divorce, I mean, what are we getting into here, Scott?

Longing for the good old days.

Eight for four, nine, six, seven, two, seven, eight, nine, I am not clear that Republicans

can win the state of Wisconsin without resolution to this issue.

That is satisfactory to women, not Republican lawmakers, but the women.

And we don't have resolution.

I mean, the immediate aftermath of the adopts decision was the reversion back to an 1849

law.

As Dr. Kristen Lierley pointed out, and again, she's our 430 guest today, you know, when

that law was made, they didn't know what germs were.

They didn't know that germs caused disease.

You know, this is the level of science when the law was made and women didn't have the

right to vote at that time.

And this was the error that set this law, which a Dane County judge, where Madison Wisconsin

is located, has said, it's not really about abortion.

It's about inventive side, about killing a baby, what, like punching the mom or doing

harm to a baby while in the womb.

For malicious reasons, you know, that's, that's something different than a mother taking

some control over her own body, but it's still not decided.

And although they are now performing a board of care in a couple of the major markets.

And I'm talking about plan parenthood.

The services are greatly diminished in women are driving a long way.

So anyways, two years time.

And again, the environment has gotten no better for the Republican party.

And Donald Trump's going to go on the debate stage this Thursday night.

Is he claiming this one, or is he going to give this offshoot?

Is he going to give the Scott Walker the, well, you know, it's a difficult decision to

be made by a woman and her doctor.

Remember when Scott Walker lied through his team, the campaign had in 2014 seeking reelection

against Mary Burke and basically said, you know, this is between a woman and her doctor.

And then came back and promptly defunded plan parenthood as much as he could.

So Trump is either going to have to get up Thursday night, lead debate format and lie.

Or he is going to have to say what he's been saying, which is, I did that.

I picked these three judges, these justices to the court.

I stripped those rights away and he continuously claims this is a good thing.

Leave it to the States.

State by state.

I heard Laura Trump saying that over the weekend, well, you know, he did the thing.

He did it.

Took it back to democracy.

Took it back to the States.

Well, that's what they tried doing with slavery, Dom.

You know, when there is a federal right that is taken away, it's not usually beholden

on many of the Southern states, the red states and those that are governed by Republicans,

you know, somehow it doesn't balance out.

The rights are no longer extended to the women, often it's the women loose in the right

style.

Yeah.

Funny how that works.

A New York Times reporting here briefly created a Democratic leading group.

And now it's the Monday, the beginning of a seven figure campaign to focus voter attention

on the importance of the Supreme Court, the presidential election with a heavy emphasis

on the court's role in issues like abortion, gun safety, voting rights.

The group stand up America is kicking off the $1 million campaign on the second anniversary

of dobs.

Again, in the New York Times, one statistic they put out there based on their research,

internal polling conducted by stand of America found that nearly 75% of voters said that

whom a presidential candidate would appoint to the Supreme Court will play a role in their

selection in November.

A lot of people very aware of this issue.

Folks, we have the devil's advocates.

I do so wish Sarah got Lewesky and stated that primary race.

He given the voters an alternative and not that Mandela wasn't a great candidate.

We always love Mandela Barnes.

But that campaign that 2022 against Ron Johnson suddenly became an issue of women's rights.

And there was no woman there for the electorate to choose from.

Not on primary day.

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Down to Ka, interesting you would play the legalizer.

You know, the big debate coming Thursday night between Trump and Biden.

And most of right wing media right now is saying Joe Biden's got to do a drug test.

I know.

I'm like the guy's 81, but what do you think he's spoken?

Very little.

Maybe some out of the weekends when he's back in Delaware.

Who knows?

But I don't think I don't think Biden's on drugs time.

And it's interesting, you know, sleepy Joe.

They're all saying, well, they're kind of jack him up.

That's the term they're using.

It's going to be all jacked up.

And I even saw Ronnie Johnson don't call him Jackson.

But Jackson don't call him Johnson.

Well, his real name is Jackson.

But since Trump started calling him Johnson, you know, he's had to do the Glenn growth

man.

They started calling himself Johnson.

But the congressman, former White House, what, physician, Dr. Feelgood, Dr. Feelgood.

The guy that apparently was giving out all the drugs, he's loudly calling for the drug

testing of Joe Biden.

And I'm thinking to myself, A, takes one to no one, Dr. Feelgood, but B, who the hell are

you?

You partisan hack.

Why do you get to say it?

Whether or not Joe Biden's going to have a drug test, you know, just because Trump

allowed you to examine him, you know, if Joe Biden was as feeble and incoherent, can't

string two sentences together and all the, all the things, he can't stand on his feet

for 90 minutes.

He's a stutterer and all the things that they claim he's to be, he should be easily defeated

by the widely business man executive former president that is strongest man ever, Donald

Trump.

I mean, so that's the continual lowering of the expectations.

I mean, at least the show in the hands, they're telling me if their behavior tells you exactly

what they're thinking.

It's like when Donald Trump in February before the election, when we're still following

COVID, what's talking about mail and ballots, he's going to cost me election and a whole

thing's rigged.

And he kind of laid out his laid out what his thoughts were.

There you go.

That's going to be the thing.

And now these Republicans are all apparently it, you know, Joe is now the great debater.

And he's, he's, he's too good.

He's going to be wired up all jacked up and, and, and that's not great for our candidate,

I guess.

Dominic rep Ronnie Jackson, Republican from Texas, Dr. Ronnie, Dr. feel good.

Jackson made his request for a clinically validated drug test in a three paid message,

three page message to Biden in his physician, Dr. Kevin O'Connor.

So you're not Biden's physician is what you're saying.

This drug test should be administered both immediately before and after the debate and

should include, but not limited to performance enhancing drugs, what would, what would

like take an anabolic steroids to help Joe Biden.

He said debates have given the American public the opportunity to gain critical insight into

specific policy positions held by individual candidates to demonstrate each candidate's

leadership qualities and style and to observe the candidates ability to perform an unscripted

and high pressure environment.

American citizens must have absolute confidence in their president's ability to perform his

or her duties as the head of state commander in chief and a debate performance absolutely

should be indicative of an individual's ability to perform these critical duties free

of any performance enhancing drugs or mood altering medications.

Why no, why no, he pointed to a recent Wall Street Journal report.

Now, I'm reading from Fox News, understand the Wall Street Journal also a Rupert Murdoch

ranked these days, damn Jackson pointed to a recent Wall Street Journal report that cited

interviews with more than 40 people to paint a picture of an 81 year old leader losing

his sharpness, even it's even as problems at both home and abroad grow more complex.

So lots of people say, Joe's old, therefore, he must replace them with a 78 year old

people, man who's losing his mind, talking about batteries and sharks, I mean, even if

you take everything they say for grant as truth and logical and factual, then their bright

ideas to replace that guy with Donald Trump, no drug testing for the Donald man, no cognitive

test for the 78 year old, it's all about Joe, I've literally seen things fly out of that

guy's nose when he's speaking, you know what I mean, I'm not clear that this is something

we really need to go down the road to, but I mean, you know, if you got the regiment,

you got the regiment, man, I mean, 81 years old, he's probably taking something if you're

not good on you, Joe, I hope I'm like you when I get to be that age, but I'm not clear

that I'd Jackson Johnson, wherever the hell is name is, is anyone to give any suggested

about anything to do with drugs?

Joe's going to test positive for metabuse, so I feel quite confident, is that performance

enhancing maybe just not live on the stage?

We've got a fine guest coming soon, no drugs required for her.

She's a smart lady, Dr. Kristen Leierley and Dom, the future opponent, she, you know,

is the only declared Democrat in the ACD Congress person in waiting in the state of Wisconsin,

her opponent's Tony weed.

If there was a guy that merited a drug test, it's Tony weed, is it not?

It's in the name, you know, don't forget there's Andre Jacque and the other guy.

Jacque's just high on God and Roth, if Roth had anything, it's valium, some, some, some

general role should, should, I mean, we give drug tests for, you know, employment sometimes

and depends on the person employer, but should we instill, should there be some sort of drug

test for our elected officials, is that something we should be concerned about?

Well, if they don't take drugs, they don't deserve for your vote.

I don't know, apparently coming back after one of Trump's, you know, trial days in New

York, some of the Republicans were pretty lit up on the floor.

Obviously, we know Derek Van Orden has a principal appear.

Oh, he's a, a big loser, Dom, it's totally different.

Oh, that's the good, that's the good drug.

Okay, okay.

Oh, that, whatever you get from Dr. Ronnie, he's got the good stuff, just ask him.

I got a prescription for it.

It's totally fine.

The doctor said it's okay.

We got doctors.

Dr. Kristen Leierly joining us next, maybe she'd give us a script for something.

I am.

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We welcome back.

A fine gas.

She is a congressional candidate, a doctor in OBGYN by vocation and hopefully a friend of

artists, Dr. Kristen Leierly, welcome back.

Thanks, guys.

I am a friend of yours, and I'm so excited to be back with you, especially today because

you may have heard it is the second anniversary of the dog's decision.

And man, we have a lot to say about it.

Kristen, you started the day doing a press conference with Ben Wickler, right?

The Democratic Party Wisconsin chair.

How the day started?

How's it going so far?

Yeah, I actually started the day with Tadalba on Pat Craithlow show up north news this

morning.

And then yeah, we had a press conference, did a little bit on MSNBC.

We just had a listening session over in Shano.

You wouldn't believe in places like Shano, Wisconsin.

Tonight, we're doing a rally in Kiwani at six.

If you're in the area, come and join us.

We're going to be shouting the word abortion in Kiwani.

Who would have ever expected that?

But that's where we're at right now in this country.

And it's because it's not just about abortion anymore.

It's about contraception.

It's about IVF.

It's about our existential rights, our freedoms.

So there's so much at stake here, guys.

And it's full court press for us.

Dr. Wierley, how much has your life personally changed in the last two years since the dobs ruling?

Entirely, I started working outside of Wisconsin, delivering babies, helping people with

general OBGYN, like metapause issues, birth control, that kind of stuff.

Because of the dobs decision, because I stepped up and I joined the attorney general's

lawsuit over the 1849 criminal abortion ban.

And I'm really proud to say that it's my name that's on that judgment that returned

abortion to Wisconsin here in Dane County.

But because that suit is still working its way through the courts, it's been appealed

and it's likely to go to the Supreme Court in Wisconsin.

It's still not settled law.

So I continue to practice outside of the state to avoid things like pro-life Wisconsin attacking

my medical license in a totally unwarranted way.

I'm a target because I'm using my voice because I have to use my voice.

My patients need me to use my voice.

Actually, I was just in chaude earlier today and a woman who is an old farm wife, she

describes herself as probably in her 70s, I walked up and she said, I don't like abortion,

but I stand with you and she handed me an envelope and it is her story with her reproductive

history and why she supports people's ability to receive abortion care.

These are the stories that people are telling in all of these unlikely places.

That is how I know that even though abortion doesn't pull high when people are asked about

the political things that they care about, we know that it is compelling and we know that

people are going to get out to vote on it because they care about it.

Well, it's your listening to the devil's advocates.

Radio show Dr. Kristen Allirely joins us.

She is a congressional candidate for Wisconsin's AIDS.

Kristen always a pleasure.

I'd like to say happy anniversary, but it is not a happy anniversary.

The Republicans continue their post.

It's not just on abortion, it's also on contraception as well.

And some of the statistics and things that I've heard about the pregnancies that don't

go right.

I mean, how often, from your experience or even statistics that you can throw out there,

does a pregnancy just go normal or how often is there a miscarriage?

I know that's the 10% is the 20% because there's lots of things that can go wrong and in

some of those cases, there needs to be additional care that might have to be an abortion for a family

that wants the baby and it's breaking their heart to do so, but something goes south

in the pregnancy.

How often do those kinds of things happen, Dr. Well, I'll tell you that one and four women

in this country have an abortion and that there is data that supports that up to 50% of

pregnancies and in miscarriage.

Some of them occur very, very early and people might just think they're having a heavy

period, but miscarriage is actually really, really common.

The heartbreaking stories we hear are typically people who have a desired pregnancy and they

get to that point in the pregnancy where all the fetal organs are developed so that

we can do an ultrasound and just make sure everything looks good.

At about 18, 19 weeks, we look and we find out that maybe this baby doesn't have a brain.

Maybe this baby has some other major problems that we know the baby won't survive, even

though this is a very wanted child.

These families are then faced with incredibly difficult circumstances.

Do they continue the pregnancy?

That should be an option for them.

Should they be able to deliver early and maybe hold their baby until they die?

Yes, they need to have all of their options so they can make the best choice for them

and they need to receive that care in their community where their support is, where their

people are because this is not, we're not just talking about getting your oil changed.

This is a huge event that happens in people's lives and it affects them now and far, far

into the future.

We have to take care of each other.

Dr. Sancho is not just Democrats or liberals' lives, it's conservative Republicans, it's

independent.

I mean, this happens to everybody, is there a silent majority, but I mean, I have to assume

there's some folks out there, perhaps like the elderly farm woman who gave you her story

that aren't maybe as vocal about it, but still have gone through some challenges and

recognize that although maybe they're politics or the religion may not allow for it, it's

something that they think that is necessary for those who might want it.

Do you think there's a chunk of those people out there?

I know there are people out there like that because they're my patients.

You know, it is not uncommon for somebody to come to my office.

There are two different levels.

We think about it on this big, high political level, like what would you do with?

But when it's actually happening to you, it's a very different situation.

And there have been many times where people have come to my office and said, I am pro-life

and I've always been against abortion care, but now I'm in this situation.

And for many of them, it is an added stressor because their ideology and their belief system

is different than what they're actually facing.

And that requires a whole different level of care from me, from my care team, from the

support people in their community.

It's challenging, but you know, you're right, Dom.

Everybody has the potential to face a challenging reproductive scenario like this.

And it isn't just limited to reproductive health.

This happens with cancer diagnoses.

This happens when someone has a cardiac heart issue, which is actually very, very common.

We have to have the ability to make our own decisions about our own personal health care.

Folks, she is Dr. Kristen Leirely.

Reproductive rights are a financial issue.

Women must have some control over their own bodies.

Or they really don't have control over their own finances, do they?

No, that is a huge piece of this.

Earlier today, and I can't substantiate and give you numbers, but I heard that one of the primary

reasons that people get abortion care is because frankly, they just can't afford to add another

child to their family or to start their families right now.

That's another conversation I had with a friend in Toronto today.

She said in the future, I'd love to get pregnant and have a family.

But now it's not the time.

I can't support a baby.

My husband doesn't have a job that can support a baby.

We just can't do this with our family.

And I need to know that I have access to reliable contraception.

And that's why opening this door when we see Republicans threatening to take away our contraception,

that's a whole different ballgame.

Right now, we as women as families can determine what's happening in our lives now,

and what the next step is, what the course of our future is.

But without that, or on the other hand, without IVF, where we can start our families and

determine that path for our future, that is absolutely devastating for people and families.

We have to give people the ability to control their own destinies.

Kristen, if elected to Congress, what is the path to codifying Grovy Wade?

Is there a legislative path?

There is Tammy Baldwin just introduced it.

It is the Women's Health Protection Act.

She introduced it, I think earlier this spring.

But this is a piece of legislation that has been introduced maybe three or four times already.

It codifies row.

It ensures access to birth control.

It is a really great piece of legislation.

Currently, it has not been able to get it to hold.

But, you know, Tammy Baldwin does some pretty tough things.

I don't know if you remember when she ensured that gay marriage was protected after dogs.

I mean, she can really make things happen.

So it is my dream to work with Senator Baldwin in the future to get the Women's Health

Protection Act across the line.

Dr. Kristen, when we were discussing your appearance here on the big show today,

you told me, and I had heard a quote from Reed Ribble, a former congressman,

and Reed said, effectively, a candidate just like you could win the 8 CD.

And did you think he was basically describing your resume?

I think he was.

I, first of all, I have so much respect for Reed Ribble.

And I always have, he is a conservative.

He is a Republican, but he is a fellow who believes in community.

And he believes in working together.

And that has been his entire history.

I remember when I took my oldest son to Washington, DC, he welcomed us into his office.

We had a delightful conversation.

I just, again, I have so much respect for him.

And when he came out and acknowledged that this district is not what it looks like on paper,

you know, things are changing in this district.

And that an authentic candidate with great fundraising numbers could bring this home to the Democrats.

Hello.

Christian from Wisconsin dot com.

Let's go.

Folks, you are listening to the devils.

Advocates radio show.

We got fine candidate for Congress on the show.

She is an OB-GYN, a doctor by trait.

Dr. Liarley, obviously, a board of rights and reproductive rights have

dominated the conversations.

But what else are people telling you?

What else do you think are the issues that I'll hopefully help you with in this scene?

As an OB-GYN doctor, people feel really comfortable just coming up to me and sharing their deeply

personal stories.

And I love that.

But in greater conversation, you know, these are not the conversations that we're having like

at breakfast on the farm for the most part.

People are wanting to talk about things like the cost of gas.

Or how expensive it is to put groceries on your table.

Or I'm always hearing people who are concerned about the border.

They're tired of politics.

They're tired of these political footballs that keep going back and forth.

And solutions are not happening.

I was watching an old debate between George W. Bush and Ronald Reagan from 1980,

from their primary.

And it was fascinating to see them talk about the border.

And to hear Ronald Reagan actually saying things like,

we should open the border and let them go back and forth.

And then they can pay taxes on the wages that they earned.

And I thought, man, we have really shifted in the last, what, 50 years,

44 years, you know, people just want solutions.

They're tired of politics.

And that's what we're going to give them in the eighth congressional district.

We're restoring that sense of hope that they so desperately need right now.

Kristen, I happen to be listening to right wing talk radio at North Central Wisconsin today.

And they were talking on righty whitey talk radio about how they think they should be doing

some outreach to Latinos.

And do we know any Republicans that speak Spanish?

Well, Green Bay, that Brown County media market, like 18% Latino.

It's a huge part of the dynamic in the Green Bay electorate in the HCB.

Kristen, how do you reach out to Latinos?

Well, I think you have to be there.

You have to meet them where they're at.

You have to talk to them and use community messengers and go to

La Musca de la Spanish speaking radio station here in Green Bay that my friend Gabi runs.

You have to actually hear just like every other voter.

You have to hear what they're saying.

And you have to be able to respond to them in a meaningful way.

It's trickier when you don't come from that community.

But that doesn't mean that you're not invited.

You just have to go there.

Kristen, if you're offered the opportunity to debate, let's say,

Andre Jacqueser, perhaps the Tony weed guy.

Will you demand a drug test of your opponents?

Boy, that is a question that I had not considered in advance.

Mike, I'm going to have to think about that one.

Put it in your arsenal, because that's what they're asking you'll Biden for.

But please, I'll take you to the school.

Oh, literally, we're going to be short on time here.

They came for abortion.

They come for IVF, kind of for contraception.

Going after one, you think like, well, they're not going to go after IVF.

And they're going after, they're not going to go after contraception.

And then they are.

What's left?

Is there anything they haven't gone after?

Or you think there's something that's going to come up with the next 60 seconds doctor?

Project 2025, I mean, read it.

You know, they're going after the federal government.

They're going after you name it.

It's there.

Acquaint yourself.

It's incredibly important.

Dr. Kristen, earlier, people want to get more involved in your campaign.

Find out more about you.

How would they do so?

Kristen for Wisconsin.com

and all of the socials I'm on.

Kristen for Wisconsin.

You know, some day we're going to have to call you Congressman.

Dr. Kristen, laterally, thank you so much for coming round.

It'll be a little weird, but we'll acclimate.

We'll acclimate.

I think you're all right.

Thank you so much, Kristen.

Thank you.

Have a great day.

Thank you.

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That's the Green Bay area.

She's Dr. Kristen Lierley, a OB-GYN by vocation.

I can get used to calling her congressman someday soon.

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Bear not drug test me.

Steve from Milwaukee says, why are we the only nation that has

politicians in the exam room?

It's a fair question.

Only nation that politicizes health care.

And it tears families apart.

Lynn from O'Connor, walks as he crudy and dumb.

I believe I saw a video of Roger, Ron Johnson being interviewed

regarding abortion.

He said, we might lose a few women.

She asked, are we disposable?

Well, Lynn, as Ron said, it's going to get a little messy.

They might get a little messy.

And you know, some of you might, you might die.

But if you have the resources, you can go to Illinois.

Thank you for that, Ron.

WMDX Texture says, drug test them both before the debate on Thursday night.

Cam's got a whole different idea.

He thinks Biden should

shack on some Viagra.

And then whatever results

is going to create a weird optic

for his opponent on the stage.

And he'll be drawn to it.

You know, I think as much as I can read aloud, Cam.

Right, I got I got you.

I think I think Joe Biden should get a really good tan and die as hair.

That was totally throw Trump off.

Sure.

Maybe cancer and blood here.

A Texture says, man, woman, person, camera, TV, still got it.

If they're against drugs, they should be tested.

Well, even the Biden administration has been somewhat against drugs.

And that is liberalism.

Angie from Rose said, some of their drugs runs out of their system quickly.

Unlike marijuana, if you counted that,

well, I counted marijuana is not a drug.

I won't say the rest of it.

Okay, Bob Sagan.

You want to be you want to really see the candidate?

You know, how I like to do it.

They should both smoke a joint before this thing starts.

Pull a street like the Bongo Lemtics in college.

Yeah, yeah, just, you know, take a couple of hits, you know, pass, pass, you know,

and then see how they play and let's see how they let's see how they react.

Let's see how they are when they're a little T.H.C. action going on.

Well, I prefer to think, um, anyone that can make a cogent argument wild drunk

because that's a rare, that's a rarely.

Some people can do it, but that's a rare, rare thing.

Almost people think they can do it.

Most people cannot.

Oh, we have some buddies in college.

I know. Do you ever know Kelly Deesey and that crew?

Those guys used to do the Bongo Lemtics.

And what they would do is there'd be a shot.

I believe of like wild turkey, some sort of brown liquor.

And then there would be a beer and then there would be a three-foot tube

or maybe 18 inches, two feet.

I don't think it was the true three-footer.

And you would have to do each of them in sequence.

So you would pull the tube, you would do a shot, you'd drink the beer.

And then, and only then, could you release that tube?

Smoke for your whole, your breath the whole time as you're holding that hit on.

And if you could do two of those, you deserve to be on the U.S. Olympic team.

Or a president, because I'm telling you, it is a very difficult task to achieve.

That's one of my greatest accomplishments that this radio show,

eight four, nine six seven, two, low bar, baby, low bar, seven, eight, nine, bill from O'Connor,

Milwaukee. Welcome, what he got for us. Hello, Bill.

Oh, well, good afternoon, guys.

With the upcoming debate, I'd like to make a few predictions.

One, we're going to hear the word rigged for hours and hours before and after.

That's going to happen.

Also, this drug testing, that'll come to new heights.

What's so hilarious, they already believe they're going to lose.

That's how much they're panicking.

If you knew you were going to win, you went to any of this.

And so to my, the crazy gun, right side of the aisle, I'm saying,

boy, you guys are really worried about Biden.

You're already thinking of quitting.

You're already thinking of charging them with drugs.

You're thinking of calling it rigged.

God, if you don't stand a chance, do you?

Uncle Joe is in their head, Bill.

That's right. I think they ought to buy not to give Trump at least the majority of time

and say, I've got plenty of time to be amused.

Donald speak and sit down with a big smile on the face.

Thank you, guys.

Thank you, Bill. I'm not sure that they're supplying chairs, though.

967-2789, Mark of Squeezzy in the last 60 seconds of the hour.

What do you got, Mark? Good, Mark.

Yeah, thanks, guys. I don't even remember the old thing called the power hitter,

where you put the joint inside this little plastic squeeze bottle,

and then squeeze it out where you just just can heal it in through your nose.

So that was something that was brought back in my day.

I had seen, I had seen like a face mask turned into a bomb,

like where the whole face, you know, like a reverse gas mask,

only it would trap the smoke inside.

Yeah, this thing was, I think it was called the power hitter.

I mean, I haven't seen one run for, you know, 40 years now,

but that used to be, you know, back, back of the day, back in my day.

The pads probably expired.

You could probably roll those hot all over again, Mark.

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