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Now live from the civic media studios in Madison, Wisconsin, where the political party is just
beginning, welcome to the devil's advocates radio show.
This is proving it's never personal, only politics.
And now here's your host, Dom and Crout.
Welcome to the devil's advocates radio show the Friday edition TGIF.
I got both Rich and Aaron in the booth today, lightly screening your calls.
Friday is for your grievances.
Here we go.
Bring him right here 844-967-2789, and we're going to be a little sports centric this
hour, not quite yet.
But eventually, we've got civic media's own sports reporter Mike Clement, he's going
to join me here in the WMDX 92.7 FM studios.
And Michael is in town, because today is pro day for the Wisconsin Badgers, the football
badgers that would like to, you know, see a future in the NFL.
Well, they all get together and they perform tasks of great physical strength and speed
and, you know, agility, and they let the NFL scouts watch them.
So Michael will tell us who did best.
Also, what the hell's happened?
Packers, the free agency, he is our Packers beat reporter Mike Clemens coming to 332 day.
And my little buddy, Dominic, you know, Friday, he's not mailed and he's not at the cabin,
but he'll join it for so stick around for Dom and his grievances.
I'm sure he's got a few problems with you people, but I want to start today talking about
US senatorial candidates, Eric Huddby.
And I know I've unscrewed up his name a lot.
I wish Dom had never corrected me, I just could have always had it wrong uniformly.
Eric Huddby is valuing, according to the journal sent, all is valuing, to donate his Senate
salary to charity.
He says in a new ad, he can't be bought.
Ah, what a man of the people.
What you love when the rich guys run for office, I mean, really rich guys.
How insulting is it to the working class Wisconsinite that this guy is so frickin rich?
He doesn't need your Paltry $185,000 a year, 15 grand a month, doesn't need it, doesn't
want it.
You know, because he's so rich, it doesn't matter.
It's insignificant.
So he's going to take it as a tax hedge.
He'll give it to charity.
Now, I'm not clear if he defines what charity, but is it one here in Wisconsin or LaGuda
Beach?
Ah, here is what's being reported, Lawrence, Andrea, Republican, Wisconsin Senate
candidate, Eric Huddby is pledging to donate his entire salary to a Wisconsin charity.
If elected in November, it's part of a campaign claiming he can't be bought.
Oh, you're a regular herb coal now.
The multibillionaire banking mogul in a new ad lamented that Washington has become
corrupt, saying career politician sell themselves to special interests instead of working for
their constituents.
I've worked hard, been fortunate.
I don't need their special interest money and I won't take it.
If you decide to elect me as your next sender, I'll donate my entire salary to a Wisconsin
charity every year.
Let me point out these stupidity of that statement just for a minute, just in case you're not playing
a longer thinking through logically what he's saying here, special interests are buying
and paying for politicians, right, the corruption is leveling it at the career politicians of DC.
But how does giving up his salary as a lawmaker?
How does that have anything to do with the other?
They're not being corrupted by their salaries, Eric.
It's not the 185 grand that's corrupting them.
You know, your effort to turn this into a different topic doesn't eliminate the fact that
you're a super rich guy and you don't need the money.
You're telling us it takes a hell of a lot more than 185 grand a year to corrupt you.
I mean, we've already talked about Eric Hudvey's offshore banking habits.
The fact that he's got a lot of money or at least dead through reinsurance companies
and permuta invested in tax shelters.
And that is contradictory behavior to what he personally describes is his own evocation
for a fairer tax, you know, let's tax the corporations.
That's what he claims, but that's not his actions.
And this newest action, this newest promise, this foul, either rich guy don't need your
poultry $185,000 a year.
This one brings a little hollow, I think, with working Wisconsinites.
I don't know.
Is this what you want to send her?
This what you want a guy so richies, you know, not corruptible by that, not by the
$185 grand, but what about the benefits he could garner, you know, for let's say,
buddies at the bank.
I think they could far exceed the greater benefit of the personal salary of a U.S. Senator.
Yeah, I really do.
I really do.
Even my son laments the fact that Nancy Pelosi is a stock trader and Nancy Pelosi is
but accused of inside trading and she has garnered great personal wealth because they made
a lot of good stock picks.
Let's just say, well, that looks, you know, from the outsider's point of view, I never
liked the fact that our speaker and she was hell of a legislator, but our speaker of
the house, I never liked the fact that she's stock picking effectively.
You think relative to the hundreds of millions of dollars she made, potentially at the stock
market picking good stocks.
Do you think that could far exceed her congressional salary?
You know what I mean?
The upside.
Ron Johnson came in our studio in Milwaukee back when I was just a little broke ass radio
guide W.R.D. down on Brady Street.
Ron gave down to the studio and he brought beer, we let him in because he had beer.
And you know, Ron talked about the tax codes and trying to be a little fairer for the
little guy, guys like me, but what Ron failed to point out when he talked about cutting
the taxes and he was the sole guy that jammed in the tax cuts for what are called designated
S corporations, which are typically little LLCs that have a pass through taxation.
So devil's advocates, devil radio, we're a little LLC might crude as the member of devil's
advocates, if we ever made anybody around here, that would pass through to my taxation.
And we might designate as an S corporation, well, that's different than big mega corporation
C corporation.
So anyways, Ron Johnson in pursuit of fairness, well, he laid down the lumber on the Trump
tax cuts, Ron Johnson's personal insertion was the cutting of the tax rate for the designated
S corporations.
And he came down to my studio and he brought beer and he said, I did it for guys like you
and I, crudey, little small businessmen like you and I, now I'm certainly not equitable
to Ron Johnson.
The guy's got three private jets in a trust, but the widow Hendrix and the Uline family,
their personal benefit just in texture 2018, my understanding from the reporting I've read
those two tax filing families had benefit greater than $200 million in that individual
tax year, $200 million in one freaking tax year, they're of course billionaires.
I'm not implying because the reporting hasn't told me that hud be is a billionaire yet.
Just that he runs a billionaire bank, but here's the point.
The kick back, and I call it a kick back, I would see this as the corrupting influence
of money and politics, but the kick back to Ron Johnson from his grandiose benefactors,
the Uline family and the widow Hendrix was about 10% of their tax savings, $21 million.
That's a lot of jing, right?
Farrow exceeds the $185,000 that candidate hud be claims he's going to forego and give
to charity.
So can you see that the benefits, the large scale benefits to a guy like Eric, they farrow
exceed the salary, push off, give it to charity, we'll make it an ad campaign, I'll act like
it's good thing, but what it suggests to be is he's in the column with these very wealthy
human beings that are playing a whole different game than the rest of us, right?
$185,000 could your family give that away this year?
Mine couldn't, I don't have that kind of mind to burn, I'm not giving $185 grand, I'm
not giving my entire salary to charity because I am so wealthy anyways that it's insignificant.
But please, please do not tell me that it's the, what, the senatorial salary that's
the corrupting force, it's just ridiculous, a little bit more from the journal sentinel.
The pledge comes as hud be who owns a Madison based real estate company and a bank in California.
His said he will sell fun much of his campaign and could put tens of millions of his own capital
into the race, the unseed Democrat Tony Tammy Baldwin, he said Friday, he can't be bought
and would put Wisconsin nights first.
Are we clear that he would do that?
He previously said he would not accept corporate special interest dollars, still candidates
cannot control special interest, spending on their behalf.
You see what he say in there, well, I'm not going to encourage it, but effectively if
some super PAC want to help him out.
Now it says here, the current Senate salary, maybe I've been a little grandiose, $174,000
per year, which is funded by the taxpayers.
A spokesperson for Hudby did not say which charities, Hudby would donate a salary to,
maybe the Eric Hudby foundation, do you remember the Romney's, the Romney's got an effective
tax rate under 10% because he gave money to the Romney foundation, which was just like
a tax shelter benefit that had been grandfathered in.
I mean, I'm talking to you folks, we don't live in the same Laguna Beach world that this
guy does.
These rich people, they got a different than you and I do.
And this pledge, this pledge just tells me this guy is so freaking rich, he doesn't live
in the world that live in $185,000 or $174, that's a lot of ging to me, but to a rich man
like Eric Hudby, I think it's Hudby, to a rich guy like Eric Hudby, that's just to be
thrown in the tithing dish on Sunday.
When they go low, we get high.
The devil's advocates.
Welcome back to the devil's advocates radio show state tournament time here in Madison.
State Street, all a bustle, young people, a state boys basketball tournament, always
enjoy watching the kids play March Bandit's time.
It is also big 10 tournament time, the badgers playing right now.
If you're a big enough fan, you'd be listening, you wouldn't be listening to be, but we got
Mike Clements sports reporter from civic media joining me very soon in studio, going to
give you an update on the free agency marketplace, especially the packers as they're affected,
and other Homer interesting things about the pro day, Mike Clements in town to cover NFL
pro day for the badger football team, so looking forward to that.
But want to turn my attention back to the Laguna Beach multi millionaire, not yet described
as a billionaire, so let's not over conflate, that's mostly a Trump thing.
But there is a press release out there today from a better Wisconsin together, Eric Hunvey
shows contempt for Wisconsinites freedom by sharing the stage with the January six insurrectionist.
I told the story earlier today, Ron Johnson used to come around the Milwaukee studios,
Tom accrued, used to come hang out with us, and then the January six thing happened.
And despite the fact he would often bring spotted cow pretty good beer, love it.
He has not been invited back.
Let's just say since Ron was on the wrong side of the insurrection on the wrong side of
history, because we won't invite him back.
And Eric, I'm going to struggle with this one.
I thought it was whole, so anyways, if I don't say it, hold me, I'm struggling.
But here is what a better Wisconsin together says about Eric, the candidate for Tammy Baldwin
seat, Hunvey.
On Saturday, March 16th, Hunvey is set to join convicted January six insurrectionist branded
Stratka at the Brown County Republican Party event.
Stratka was arrested and pled guilty in 2021 to several criminal charges stemming from
his participation in the violent attack on our nation's capital building and attempt
from the mega faction to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election lost by
Donald Trump.
I wonder does Eric think Trump won the election in 2020?
I haven't seen him specifically come on, deny the big lie.
Now Stratka, who is currently serving a sentence of 36 months probation for his role on
January six, is filling in at the event for fellow election denier and bag of politician
Marjorie Taylor Greene, according to a criminal complaint struck up made several online
posts, breaking about his involvement and in support of the January six attack, including
a video of himself outside the Capitol doors, encouraging other insurrectionists to storm
inside the building.
The complaint also details witness video footage of Stratka's involvement in ripping a
shield away from a U.S. Capitol police officer during the attack.
In response to HuttVee's plans to publicly cozy up with Stratka this weekend, the following
are comments from a better Wisconsin Degethers deputy director Mike Brown, our friend.
California mega millionaire Eric HuttVee's decision to keep such company is another stunning
display of just how out of touch he is with the values of Wisconsin.
Eric HuttVee, by choosing to share a stage with Brandon Stratka, is showing support for
a mega-faction that engaged in a violent attack on our nation's Capitol.
In a criminal conspiracy, well, he is a criminal, but it was, and I agree, a criminal conspiracy
to overturn the election of the results of an election the overwhelmingly lost.
If they had succeeded, the votes of millions of Wisconsinites would have been thrown out.
Now Mike Brown goes on to say, we deserve leaders who will uphold the will of the voters,
even if they don't like the results, to associate with a known participant in an attempt
to illegally overturn an election is a blatant disregard for our fundamental freedom in the
promise of democracy, smallty, and all that all votes hold equal weight in our elections.
It raises serious questions about Eric HuttVee's judgment, his ethics, and his values.
This is a bad call, HuttVee.
You should not be appearing on the stage with January 6th insurrectionists, and I don't
care if it's you as Senator Ron Johnson, stay away, sir.
Now I don't know the band yet, I don't know we've reached out to his campaign, been vocal
if you're listening, bring the man around, I don't have an axe to grind.
You know, I'm going to call him out the way I see him balls and strikes don't that kind of
stuff, but I think this would be a poor choice of this candidate to go appear on a stage
and a fundraiser to get to know you event in Green Bay with a known pled guilty,
still on probation, January 6th insurrectionist.
But you know, here in the state of Wisconsin, there are so many of them,
it'd be hard to differentiate.
I mean, how Andre Jacques who wants to run for the eighth congressional district,
that's Green Bay, while Andre Jacques wrote a letter to Mike Pence on January 5th, 2021 saying,
you know, let's not count the votes.
I just give us 10 days, we're going to ruminate on it back here in the state and
you know, see if we can find a differing outcome.
Well, that was Andre Jacques, of course, we've got the third CD guy, you know,
that's Derek van Norton, evil clowns, he's now been come to know and I prefer angry drunk
Derek van Norton. But Derek, he's also an alleged insurrectionist.
And Scott Fitzgerald, he was willing to throw out the electoral outcomes at his home state,
the same ballot, he was elected to the first time, as was Tom Tiffany, 14 other state lawmakers
in the state of Wisconsin, and we got 10 fake electors, one of whom is still a Wisconsin election
commissioner Bob Spindell. Joe for Madison, welcome, I leave anybody out. I mean,
it's hard as a Republican to appear on a stage and not be present with an insurrectionist.
Well, one good choice and if Eric, Eric, have you wanted to indicate that he has some
interest in the state of Wisconsin, how about appearing, you know, with a group of people who
are looking at the problem of PFAS or appearing with a group of people in the part of the state that's
just been hammered by this loss of the hospital in O'Claire and Chick-World Falls at St. Joe's
and Sacred Heart? How about meeting at a community group there and finding out what are people
thinking about what they might do? What I see as a rich guy, Sashanian, got money from his
dad and then grandpa and did quite well by himself. Well, okay, that's fine, but he's going to donate
his salary to which I would say so. So you're rich enough that you don't need your salary,
lucky for you. So you're going to spend your own money on the campaign. How fortunate for you
that you are in that circumstance that you don't have to spend. No, he's nobody's, nobody's
man except Eric Husby. Except we hear him say he's only going to be working for Wisconsinites
to which I would say which Wisconsinites. If you weld a delineated, here you got the U-lines,
the Bradleys, all those people that have done real well with these tax cuts. The salary is
pitifully insignificant compared to what the tax breaks are compared to what the donations are.
And I think the fact that he thinks we're so stupid that we can't parse that out is just
appalling. It puts him puts him in the place of a rich banker who's trying to pull one over
on the person who's getting a home loan. And I, you know, where's the fine print? Where's the
fine print, Eric, in all of this? Thanks a lot. Well, I know he's in Madison today, glorious
sunny weather that we had. He shot a video this morning. My understanding again, you know,
he's trying to play local. He's trying to be local. Maybe he's watching the Badger came right now.
Maybe someone you know is as well. We'll come back. We've got to find gas. He has
bike clements. He's our sports reporter. We'll check in on Bucky. We'll check in on the Packers
and Badger Pro Day. Lots to cover. It's a Friday. Thank God. More Devils.
The Devils Advocates. Sausage making never looked so good.
Look back to the Devils. Epcot's pretty show the Friday edition. Thank God. I've got
to work sport cowbell in. Got to find gas. Got to work him in right now. He has sports reporter
extraordinaire Mike Clemens from civic media. Mike walk back to Devils. Advocates. Great to have
you in the WMDX studios. Hi, Crude. Yeah. I came to Madison today. I'm based out of our Milwaukee
stations, but today was the pro day for the Badgers where they've got their, you know, the NFL
Scouts come in and take a look at the Badgers football team. So we saw Braille and Allen. And
that was all excited because I went down to the combine in Indianapolis. Yes. The NFL scouting
combine is where they bring in about 320 players from all over the country. Yes. And they run
the 40 and they lift weights and they interview with the teams. I just missed the combine. Did you
know you were gonna go? No, like as a player. I'm joking. Oh, he did. He did as a player. Yeah. Sure.
Turn your head and come straight from high school. Anyway. So, so down there at the combine,
and then Braille and Allen, the Badgers running back decided not to run the 40.
And at the combine, at the combine, how about today at pro day? No, no 40s. I was kind of surprised
by that. Aren't you? I am. Well, because he's fast. He was. I thought he was a track guy.
It was nice enough to come over and talk about it. And you know what? It was a high ankle
spray. And he had last season remiss those games. And he just doesn't feel like as 100% yet.
I saw him run those drills. You know, they got to catch the ball, run the shuttles,
that kind of thing in Indianapolis. And I was impressed. I was really impressed. He did it again
the day. And I thought, but you know what? There was times where he looked a little gassed,
a little out of breath. Maybe hadn't been getting the, uh, the aerobic work. Maybe. But at whatever
the case, um, he said, I'm, I just don't feel right about it yet. And so we've decided we're still
not going to run the 40 until he's 100% come out with that high ankle spray. So now he's a big boy.
A really big boy. 6245. Is that what he's bigger in person than you think?
He was the biggest back at the combine. Seemingly, when you some all stand in there, he was like a
man amongst boys. And these are some big ass NFL soon to be NFL picks. And he's bigger than all of
them, especially his height. Although, I don't know, that kind of style of running back is a little
out of style these days. You know, you know, the only problem I ever had with Braille and Ellen,
few fumbles. Yeah. And, and he's going to have to prove that on the on Sunday. He's just going to
have to be there when it matters when they need to grand out some clock, whatever team he goes to.
But I got to ask you might the Packers. I mean, they didn't take TJ. Why they didn't take a lot of
my favorite former Badgers that I watched up close and personal. I'm thinking this guy's going to
have a great NFL career on Sundays. And the Packers never seem to grab a Badger. Now, I see AJ
Dylan is apparently coming back into the fold with a reduced contract, very Packer club favorable
contract. But Braille and Ellen had looked damn good in a green and gold. What do you think, Mike?
As the number three. Or as the number two, as part of the stable. Who knows?
Start part of the stable. Yeah. You know, whoever's your hot back, you go with that guy today.
Let's think about this because they just pulled off this deal. And you know, let's talk about this
Aaron Jones thing while Aaron Jones isn't there. Yeah. Seven years with the Packers came in as a
fifth round pick, worked his tail off. And then last season, that first game against the Bears,
ran in that touchdown down at soldier field, about 35 yards, grabbed the back of his leg when he
got in the end zone. Yeah, hamstring. And then the locker room down in Chicago said, I think I
just tweaked it. Well, he missed like the next five or six games. Then later gets carded off the
field with a knee injury, tears in his eyes, thinking, you know, maybe not only his season,
but his career could be over turned out to be an MCL, not an ACL came back and pretty much led the
Packers into the playoffs with that fast burst that he had coming on the back field. I remember
being down in Dallas for that playoff game against the Cowboys. Micah Parsons is that outstanding
pass rusher on the Cowboys defense. And he was, he was going to drill Jordan love. He beat
Zach Tom at right tackle. This Cowboys pass rusher is headed right for Jordan love. And who got
in the way? Aaron Jones blocked him. So not only a great running back, but a good blocker. Last week
Drew Rosenhaus, the famous agent, he's, he's a ballbuster. He is. He came in and said, okay,
our guy, my client took a pay cut last year, 11 million. So we're not going to do that this year.
Russ ball, the finance director for the Packers said, well, as a matter of fact, we were thinking
more like six million this year. Outrageous. Outrageous. And by the end of the week, they weren't
going to budge. And then the Packers say, told ESPN, we told them we're going to move on. If you
don't, if you don't come down to six, because he's 29 years old, he'll be 30 in the season. I know,
but it's still somewhat disrespectful to the chemistry of the team. Is it not? When he got a guy
like Aaron Jones, who took you, I mean, that team was different with him in the backfield. It
was not the same team until he came back. And his dynamic play, I think opened up Jordan love and
made him a better quarterback. How do you disrespect your guy like that? And I can tell you to,
since he was a rookie, Aaron Jones is one of the smartest running backs I've ever, I've ever
interviewed. You know, you talked about, hey, what happened on that touchdown? This happened
in a preseason game in his rookie season. And he told me player by player left to right. Well,
I saw the end do this. I saw the linebacker do that. I saw the safety shift over here.
Then our guy moved over here. So I knew that that hole would probably be open instead of the one
that they call it that Aaron Rogers called a nuttle. I mean, he's that smart of a guy of a football
player. He sees the field that well. Anyway, the talks broke down last weekend. And the Packers
true to their word, they went to the personal board said, okay, who else is out there? And
somehow they talk, Josh Jacobs, lead running back for the Raiders, who's got a burst.
There's a lot of them looks like Aaron Jones, only he's 26 years old. Let's wear a tear on the
body. And he agreed to a deal now that it's four years and 48 million dollars. And you know,
these NFL contracts. It's like, yeah, take that and cut it in half. Really? We'll see.
Because we see how much it's guaranteed. And they'll want to restructure in a year or two.
If the cap requires, well, let's talk about age. Then the Braille and Allen has been famous
for being a young guy performing like a grown man from age 17 on. He came to the Badgers,
played, you know, reclassified to play as a freshman. And you know, they were going to break
up and it's a safety. So today, it got a fondle act, right? Yeah. Yeah. Today, I got a chance
to talk to Braille and Allen. He kind of recognized me from the combine. And there's across the way
is Brian Guderkins and his top scout milk from the the scouting department of the Packers. I said,
hey, so did you get a chance to talk to Goody? No. They didn't even talk to the know who they did
talk to the center. Tanner Borolini, typical Packers. They're out looking for linemen. They know
what they're doing or running back. The NFL has put a lot less premium on the running back
of late. They have they they've sort of de-infacized. They they seemingly think, you know, these are
replaceable parts. They always had a very short shelf life. Three, four years, the average NFL
that's it running back. And I mean, it's brutal sport. These guys are taking a beating.
Yeah. Um, does that benefit a squad? I mean, the fact that Braille and Allen is 20 years old. He
he doesn't have a lot of rough miles on him yet. Yeah. Although he did play in the big 10.
I got to believe that the Packers still have a philosophy that they had the year that they won
the Super Bowl. And they got so far into the season. And then, okay, let's activate the rookie.
James Stark's and he took him all the way to the end zone and beat the Steelers for, you know,
in a Super Bowl. I think that's that when you talk about the value of the position,
that's probably where they're at. Folks, you are listening to the Devils.
After this radio show, I'm right here in the W MDX studios in Madison with my pal Mike Clements
sports reporter, especially Packers beat reporter for civic media. And I think we're going to have
some badger happy Badger fans joining us here in a moment. It looks like the Badgers will prevail
over Northwestern 70 to 61. So they're going to go on to the final four of the big 10 tournament.
They'll play tomorrow, I believe midday game, but we'll confirm the times once the game is final,
it's final. Bucky wins 70 to 61 over Northwestern. So go Bucky. But pro day here in Madison,
borderline you mentioned, we've talked a little a lot about braille and who else, who else worked
out for the scout? Who would press today? Nobody else really jumped off the page. There's about
eight players out there. I'll tell you what, I wasn't impressive. Was there's one guy I thought,
wow, he looked pretty fast. He looked really fast. He ran a four four six. I just got the times
from the university. It's Tanner Mordecai, the quarterback, the quarterback ran a four four six.
That's we are. Wow. But how do you think he will project late round? Bordecai, will he get drafted?
Maybe, maybe. He's a big kid, right? He's average size. He could be a third string quarterback,
maybe a camp arm and a practice squad guy. Make a lot of money doing that in the NFL.
If you stick around enough, you know, practice squad wasn't so long ago, you maybe got 40 or
50 grand a year. Yeah. And I think that's already up to like 250,000 a year now. So you can do.
Okay. Mike Clemens, sports reporter, packer, beef reporter, you've been covering the packers for
years and years. This has been an aggressive offseason. I mean, there's always the restructuring
necessary to make cap room. It's it's a business. First and foremost, the NFL is a business.
But I was a little surprised. That was a lot surprised that Aaron Jones out. And that they
signed a new tail back, you know, I read somewhere for like 31 minutes. We had the best backfield
in the NFL. Right. Monday afternoon. But that was short lived because, of course, they moved on.
Then they brought AJ Dylan back, Quadzilla. So they've got a one and a two. Maybe they go after
a guy like Braille and Alan, but I'm not going to hold my breath. What are the packers needs in
this draft? They got their safety. Yeah. Tell us about this safety before we go on. Tell us about
this. I don't know that much about the giant sky. Yeah. Xavier McKinney, 24 years old now.
The best thing I saw in the scouting reports after they signed them was tackling his
efficiency in tackling, which completely replaces Darnell Savage, Jr. Who started out from
Adam Maryland as terrible as a guy put his head into it. And but, you know, how many times do we
see that guy pull up on a tackle? Yeah. In the last year or two, he'd still has got great speed.
He got picked up by the Jacksonville Jaguars, a minimum three year deal. But that's what they're
looking for. And this new defensive coordinator that they've got wants to base the defense more
on the secondary, the back end of the defense than necessarily the inside linebackers.
What about inside linebackers? My understanding is to successfully play this sort of defense.
We're going to need some better, some better backs, some better inside guys. What we cut Campbell,
right? We cut Campbell. And he just got picked up by the 49ers today. You know,
why? Remember, if you're watching the Super Bowl, one of their great linebackers,
Dre Greenlaw, suffered the torn Achilles tendon in the Super Bowl. Yeah, running in from the
sideline. Yeah. Yeah. So he'd had a sore Achilles for several weeks. But, you know,
the thing snapped on him in the game. It's a brutal sport, man.
So they've got a kid named Isaiah McDuffie to back up Kway Walker, their first round pick.
And they're putting all their chips in those two to get started. Then they'll see what else
they could pick up in the draft or maybe in free agency as well. I heard they wanted to move
Walker over to the weak side. So we'd be less involved in the play call. Could be more of a flow
guy. Right. I mean, he's a brutal and all the right ways. I love that Kway Walker kid out of
Clemson, right? Uh, yes. No, no, Georgia. My bad. I think he's Georgia. I knew it was these SEC.
Yeah. Yeah. You know, they they do the best football. I think sometimes at least as it translates
to the pro game down there from the high schools on up. Well, you know, they got all the weather down
there. So Michael, what we got what the draft happens about a month from now.
The player evaluations, you had mentioned your in Madison today. You're at the UW
pro day in Braille and Allen and Ortolini were the two stars. If there were stars on the
badger team to evaluate. And you mentioned, Braille and didn't run his 40s. But, you know,
he's got some film. You can look at his film. You can see there's some breakaway.
You know, he's got enough burst. I think he's not, you know, a speedback.
But is this all just strategizing and doing the mock drafts or what comes next year, Mike,
for the Packers, for the NFL more pro days, but then the interviews. These teams not get to
interview 30 players. They can bring them in or do a Zoom call with them. But they get that last
minute evaluation to get to know these guys. A job interview. Yeah. The job, real life job interview.
I've been through a few. Yeah. Okay. So it's the employer. Once or twice as the seeking to be
employed. Uh-huh. I don't think I'd have made an NFL team. No, probably not. I'm too truthful.
They asked me my 40 times. I'd say five plus and they'd say, goodbye. Come back. My Clemens,
the sports reporter for seven media got lots to talk about badgers. They won. They beat Northwestern.
They'll be playing on a weekend. 70 to 61. Go Bucky. More Devils Afghats.
The devil's advocates making radio great again.
Welcome back to the Devils. Afghats radio show. Got my buddy Dominic joining soon.
They'll start airing your grievances. No problems. Badgers beat Northwestern today.
70 to 61. They'll be playing on the weekend in the big 10 tournament. And you can always listen
across the civic media network. I recommend the WRJN. The game will stream there. You can listen
over the air on 1400 AM 99.9 FM or 98.1 FM. And I got civic media's fine sports reporter. My
Clemens right here with me. Man, you, we were talking about the 32 hour work week yesterday on
the show. You sent me a text. What do you say about 32 hours a week? 32 hours. I'd do that on the
weekends, man. I know you do. You've always got a game. You've always got a game. Yeah.
Well, and you know what? This is a legit statement because you know, you go down to Indiana.
You go down to Chicago. And it's like, how do these guys in sports radio do this? They're all
losers right now. The Cubs might turn around. You mean if your team sucks. Yeah. And I mean,
look at this between the Packers and the Brewers and the Bucks and the Badgers. They're all
respectable programs teams, right? They're in it. They're in it. So, you know, that makes it a lot
easier to cover as well. I don't care if the team wins or not. It's my job to tell listeners,
what is your team doing today to win the next game? That's what I'm here for. See, I'm a
homer. Those are questions. I'm cheering for one of them. I'm not a journalist. You can do that.
You can do that. And you've got that role. I just think of it. And I, and I don't go through,
you know, coaches garbage or anything like that. But usually if you go and you pay attention,
you start to see some problems and you ask questions directly and you just take it from there.
There were, I tell you what, there was one time where we were in the Packers locker room and
it was during training camp. It was about four or five years ago. And Aaron Rodgers, it was one of
those years where he'd come in and then he started saying, you know, I don't, I don't really need
to be here for many camp and the OTAs and all that. We've got a great receivers coach and we've
got Randall Cobb here. And those guys can talk about, you know, the things that when I get here
for the required many camp and for training camp, you know, we can talk about it then. And so
they got halfway through training camp and he was just saying, oh, you know, this young receiver
is screwing up and this young guy and this free agent we brought in doesn't know what's going on
yet. And you know, we're two weeks away from the state from the start of the season. And we'd
better start cleaning this up. Pause. And I said, you know, Aaron, when you came to camp, you look
great because you know, Brett used to come in here to take him two or three weeks in training camp
to get it going to really get it back in shape. Yeah. From the off season drinking program.
This is an accurate statement. That first day, he's like, oh, my God, just, you know, you watch,
you've been watching Jordan Love and these other backups through May and June. And now it's,
now you're into July and August and like, oh, there was no, there was no comparison.
I said, but don't you think that some of these younger receivers you're complaining about
would be further along if maybe you'd come to some of the OTAs or many camps.
Anyway, and he said, well, you know, there's one on one receiver and then there's the
sophomore level. Okay. So the one on one, that could be up to the receiver's coach and to,
you know, maybe a Frandel Cobb is here and those guys. And then, and then I come in for the
sophomore sessions, you know, during training camp. But I left, there's a couple of the beat guys
who looked at me and said, I can't believe you asked that. I said, well, it's, it's the truth.
It's the truth because they thought for sure he was going to like shut us all down and walk out
or store modern or anything. But he accepted that. I don't, I don't think that was the right
thing to do. But he accepted that. And of course, what do you do last year when you went to the
Jets? He was there for all those off-season programs. It was the regular season that he came up
short during. Right. Well, per I got to ask you, political career and Aaron Rogers future.
Our world's colliding here, Mike. I, you know, there was a story that popped up last fall when he was
out in Santa Monica, rehabilitating the torn Achilles, he suffered four plays into the season.
And all of a sudden, you've been to Santa Monica, right? It's a nice area. And, and all kinds of
great places to eat. And so Robert F Kennedy Jr. Post a picture with Aaron Rogers. It says,
had a lovely lunch today with Aaron Rogers. And, you know, Bobby Jr., he can come on and do a speech
and sound very intelligent about all kinds of angles and hallways of government. But then you see
the rest of the family. Caroline on down. They say, we love him, but he's nuts. Yeah. And then this
week, you've got him making announcement, yeah, on my list of vice presidential candidates could be
Aaron Rogers or Jesse Ventura. And like Don Rosen, one of our colleagues said to me today, he said,
well, he was governor of Minnesota. I said, yeah, and how that turned out. So I have no idea
if he's actually going to consider this. I just know that there's a book coming out on him
from a very good author named, you know, Connor, who's actually interviewed him and then
been talking to me. And it's like, he was going to put this book out thinking he had a guy who's
going to come back to play football. And now, maybe the book's on hold because this is a whole new
chapter, right? What do you really do it? You know, he's got a big ego. I know a few guys like him.
I am a guy like him big ego. Um, yes, I think he would. If asked, I think he would, if nominated,
I think he would serve. So he's tired of being GM of the New York jack. He wants to go to vice president.
Hey, let's talk about the Milwaukee box. Uh, I have not been armchair coaching this team because
I'd be the third, uh, Michael, they're in second place in the East. They won the other night. They
should have. Um, how is the box doing? Give me an update. They're up and down, man. I mean,
they lost a game to the Sacramento Kings the other night, uh, where they kind of got blown out. And
I, you know, just when you thought that they were getting some momentum coming out of the all-star
break when they won six games in a row. Here's the best buck story I know. And it's after the
box had another nice win in that six run, the Damien Lillard, the guy that they brought in from
Portland and the big trade, Dame time. Dame had about 41 points that night. And somebody said,
you know, do you feel like you're in it now that, you know, the things that Doc Rivers wanted,
did you guys to do on defense offensively, etc. That's starting to sink. And he says, you know,
when Doc first got here, the first thing he said to me was, hey, are you guys running some of those
sets? Y'all used to run when you're with the Portland Trailblazers. And he said, no, none of them.
And Doc Rivers says, what? Those things gave us fifth when we were with the Celtics and 76ers.
Well, we're going to change that. Now they're running some of the plays that Damien Lillard had that
made him a success in Portland. That explains why Terry Stotz left after two weeks last summer.
Because they weren't utilizing some of the plays like that under. Terry Stotz was his coach
for all those years with the Portland Trailblazers thought that's why they're bringing him to Milwaukee.
Adrian Griffin apparently thought otherwise. And Stotz said, then what am I doing here?
That's changed. Doc's using those things that work for him in Portland. You know, I wonder each
and every day, what am I doing here? My clement sports reporter, you are living the life I wanted to live.
Well, being a beat reporter, working your ass off, you know, I'm, I'm doing the cushy political
work over here. Yeah, sure you are. Yeah, cushy. Yeah. Michael is so great to have you here in the WMDX
studios. Thanks for coming around. Thanks, Grootie. Appreciate it. Have a great weekend. Don't work
too hard. More doubles advocates. Dom never works hard. Except maybe today. We'll see.
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