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Now live from the civic media studios in Madison, Wisconsin, where the political party is just
beginning, welcome to the devil's advocates radio show.
Once proving it's never personal, only politics.
And now here's your host, Dom and Crout.
Welcome to the devil's advocates radio show.
The Wednesday edition, the Super Tuesday Hangover edition perhaps.
Dom joined soon.
I got a fine guest joining me, co-deviling this hour.
Scott Ross joining me in studio, 330 if you're unfamiliar, Scotts of Firebrand, a Jim
and I, a friend of the devil's advocates, and we're going to talk about lots of political
topics, long form interview, starting about 330.
But the really, I think, really, really big news.
Just came from Kamala Harris on the Wisconsin State Capitol Square.
The vice president in my hometown, I got to see her, I got to listen.
We're going to bring you some of that sound.
Now she didn't have a public event earlier today.
Went down to what will be a mass transit depot in the Madison area was joined there by
Satya Rhodes Conway, the mayor of Madison, and that was the public event.
But I got to go to the super cool Democratic Party of Wisconsin event.
This was supposed to be a closed event.
They did open it for press and yours truly saw our buddy John Nichols from the cap times.
And the nation, of course, John was there.
It's always great to see John.
He's a frequent guest on this big program.
And it was great to see the Democratic Party of Wisconsin chair Ben Wickler.
He was there representing and my mayor, well, technically I'm in Middleton, but I still
claim her.
And it was great to see the vice president.
I believe second time I've seen her this year.
And I am always impressed by the vice president.
But there were also protesters and the vice president cannot go anywhere without the pro-Palestinian
said, trying to make a scene of themselves.
Now it did not interrupt what was happening in the room.
And this was not a amplified room.
This was again supposed to be a closed event about 100 in the room total.
And about 10 of us were pressed.
We were the plus ones, I guess.
And so anyway, she gave remarks at, you know, just room temperature, no amplification.
And from the room, pardon me, I was hustling from the room.
You didn't know anything was going on outside.
And I got there about one 10, they said media, you know, credentialed, you got to be
in the room by one 10, they had already done their, their, you know, sweeps for bombs
and all that kind of stuff, control the room from that point forward.
So I was in the room by one 10, you know, I know how to tell time.
And I was waiting and, you know, I communicated and sent some text and read some articles
because nothing but a wait.
And the BP Kamala Harris was expected in the room about 225, but an hour ago, not even.
But she was mostly on time, mostly timely.
And so anyways, waiting in the room, waiting in the room, she came, Satya Rhodes Conway,
did her thing, and then Ben Wechler did his thing, the BP did her thing again, all without
amplification.
And, you know, some cheering in the room, of course, the faithful there was the Democratic
Party of Wisconsin headquarters.
And then I walked out and protesters have the capital block.
You know, basically stopped right at North Pinkney, right at the place, the Democratic
Party headquarters, on the Wisconsin capital square.
So the protesters got her shut down.
And they didn't want us, us, the fine credentialed media to get too close.
They said, why don't you exit that way and pointed be down the block?
Well, you know, Crudy's not great at following directions, I kind of pretended like I was
following the directions.
And then of course, I walked out into the capital square because it's not going anywhere.
The people, the protesters, they've got the traffic stopped.
And I took just a little bit of sound, just so we could share it with you, our fair audience,
got air in this hour, lightly scraping the calls and helping out with the sound of the
pro-Palestinian protesters on the Wisconsin capital square there here, like I was, agreed
to vice president.
I got to tell you, it was cringey.
I was cringing.
How many kids did the vice president kill today?
I would say zero.
Is she part of the Biden Harris, you know, administration, absolutely.
She came out recently and called for a six week ceasefire.
This apparently not sufficient, you know, the pro-Palestinians want a forever ceasefire.
And this is certainly going to be an issue with a lot of young progressives.
I wasn't up close and personal, but this did seem like a group of younger protesters,
younger people, very passionate, let's just say.
The vice president, and I don't know if you're familiar with Commonwealth's history, but
the vice president, well, she used to live in Madison, Wisconsin and she told part of
that story today.
And apparently she visited her childhood home, little, little tiny place on one of the
lakes.
She didn't describe which one she didn't give the address, but apparently her mom was
a breast cancer researcher and her dad also UW professor.
She lived in Madison, Wisconsin and approximately age five and claim some roots.
And I don't know if you find folks know this, but the mayor has declared today right here
in my hometown, Madison, today by proclamation, she has declared it.
Vice President Kamala Harris, you know, because of the Madison roots and all, we do have
the mayor welcoming the vice president here to my hometown, her hometown as well.
Everybody's home town today, I'll play Mayor Satya Rhodes Conway, please, if you would
be there.
I did a proclamation for today, and I'm not going to read all of it because it's kind
of long, but here is the long and short of it.
It starts with, whereas Vice President Kamala Harris has a special connection to Madison,
Wisconsin.
And because she was born in Oakland, but her parents moved here in 1968, her father,
her sister's appointment as an associate professor of economics at the University of
Wisconsin.
Did you know that?
Her dad?
Her dad?
Her dad?
Her mom was a breast cancer researcher in UW, and they lived right here in Madison when
she was about five years old, and so I talked about all the other wonderful things she's
done, but at the end of the day, we are proclaiming that Vice President Kamala Harris is an
honorary radish president of Madison.
It's Kamala Harris, Madison Day.
So you know, celebrate appropriately.
I know we are going to hear at the Devil's Advocates.
We're going to share some of the sound of the Vice President, but first let's get her introduction.
This again was at the Democratic Party headquarters on the Madison Capitol Square.
This happened less than an hour ago.
I don't think anyone else is playing this sound right now.
So let's play it for the people, Erin.
Here's Ben Wickler, Democratic Party of Wisconsin chair, introducing the Vice President
to a hundred or so in a small crowded, somewhat warm, stuffy room.
Play it for the people.
Portable Care Act, where she was a voice of moral clarity in Washington, D.C. as a senator
from California.
But I made her learn.
I learned along during that time that she has something deeper and common with so many
of us here.
How many people in this room lived in Wisconsin when they were five years old?
So did Vice President Kamala Harris, who was one of our very own, she is somebody who
in her leadership in the White House, in her moral leadership on the world stage, she
is showing what our politics can be at its best.
And she is here with us today because she knows that Wisconsinites have superpowers in
this election.
And she is ready to work with us to unleash that power to usher in a new birth of democracy
in this land.
Ladies and gentlemen, everyone in between and beyond, let's welcome Vice President Kamala
Harris.
I kind of feel like the Muppet Show.
Of course, it was a welcoming crowd.
This was a dim supportive crowd, at least inside the room.
Again, there were protesters outside the room to welcome the Vice President today.
Pro-Palestinian protesters, my understanding, there will be a March downstate street in
Madison today, about 430.
But I thought that was actually a pro-Israel group.
So we're going to see if there's conflict on the square this evening.
Occasionally there has been, but the Vice President probably departing the site, I snuck
out right at the end of her speech.
She had, you know, plenty of faithful to greed on the rope line and the Vice President
looked like she was sticking around for a bit.
We're going to play some sound of her addressing this friendly, dim supportive Madison crowd.
And the Vice President in the state of Wisconsin, this again, not her public event, this
is some super secret stuff that I'm sharing with you as the greatest audience ever of
the Devil's Evocates Radio Show.
And we, did we test the Kamala sound just, we did.
We have time or now if I run us up against the break.
Let's play the first sound by Kamala Harris early in her speech to the faithful in Madison.
I'll say, I think we all know this election is as much as anything about each of us deciding
what kind of country we want to live in.
Really it's about deciding whether we want to live in a country that prioritizes and values
decency, democracy, freedom, liberty, rule of law, or not.
This is an election that in so many ways is going to really determine what we prioritize
in terms of how we measure the strength of leadership.
Frankly, I think those last several years, there's been this reversion around that, right?
Which is to suggest that the measure of the strength of the leaders based on who you'd
beat down.
Instead of who you lift up, a very positive message from the Vice President, I've seen
her very intent.
And today it was a more casual demonstration, more casual presentation.
She was speaking to the faithful at the Democratic Party of Wisconsin headquarters and the less
faithful, the less supportive, they were outside the protesters greeted her in Madison,
pro-Palestinian protesters, cringe-worthy stuff they said about our Vice President.
Come back!
Today is officially by Proclamation Kamala Harris Day in Madison, Wisconsin.
They're listening to the Devil's Advocates, where else would you go to celebrate it?
When they go low, we get high.
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Look back to the Devil's Advocates, when you show up the edition, the Wednesday edition,
I don't know if you know this, but by Proclamation, today has been declared Kamala Harris Day
in my hometown, Madison, Wisconsin, the Vice President, just leaving the Wisconsin Capitol
Square, I suspect, you know, I think they had a backdoor exit for the motorcade because
pro-Palestinian protesters here to meet the Vice President, they said some crunchy things,
they apparently blame her for all of, you know, the evils of the Israelis at this point,
but anyways, you couldn't hear it in the room for whatever that's worth.
So today is the super Wednesday hangover edition, and for those that weren't paying close
attention, not a lot of drama politically last night, Trump won mostly, Nikki Haley
apparently won the State of Vermont, the Republican electorate of Vermont, favored Nikki Haley.
And with, you know, that great news last night, because she basically lost everywhere else,
she dropped out of the race, Nikki Haley is no more.
And she said effectively, you know, I hope Donald Trump tries to earn my followers, my supporters.
And I did see also a tweet, Dean Phillips congratulated the President, Joe Biden, Dean Phillips
was the congressman from Minnesota that was running against Joe Biden while he congratulated
Joe Biden, uncommitted voters, I think you might have shouted out Mary Ann Williamson
and then at the end of his tweet, you threw a shout out to Dean Palmer.
And you might ask yourself, because I know I did, who's Dean Palmer?
Well, Dean Palmer, apparently some rich guy, in a similar to Bloomberg fashion puts
a money in America's Samoa, and one, American Samoa last night.
So Dean Palmer has won American Samoa, much like Bloomberg did, to the, you know,
basically same effect, some rich guy in a Vandy project.
There were 91 votes cast in America, Samoa, Dean Palmer, or 51, President Joe only got 40.
So Dean Palmer, that's your day, buddy. Enjoy it.
Apparently, Phillips also dropped out. So, you know, we've moved on.
Super Tuesday is coming gone.
SS Nikki Haley, SS Dean Phillips, and we've got our nominees.
It is the Biden Harris ticket, and we're soon going to find out who Donald Trump
picks now. I did hear today, it's a male congressman. I'm thinking Jim Jordan, but we'll see.
But we don't yet know, but we do know that Trump is effectively the Republican nominee.
And we do know that the vice president came to Madison today, and she did a
public event, and then she did the private DPW event, which they eventually opened to the press,
which allowed me to sneak in. I will bring you a little more coverage when Dom joins
after four o'clock. I got to find guest, expected in the hissy soon he has Scott Ross,
Jim and I firebrand, friend of the devil's advocates. But here is some of the coverage from the
journal sentinel of the earlier event. Vice President Kamala Harris visited a Madison
construction site Wednesday to announce a new executive order aimed at promoting apprenticeships
as a top Biden administration officials continue to blanket the battleground state eight months
before the presidential election joined by acting labor secretary Julie Sue Harris delivered
brief remarks about what will be a new Madison metro transit facility where electric buses will
be charged and serviced as part of a new bus rapid transit system. She announced the
pardon me, I should say this clearly. She announced the signing of an executive order,
directing federal agencies to explore which government jobs can be filled with train apprentices
rather than those with four year degrees. Here's a statement from the vice president.
The work that is happening here really is wonderful example of how so many of our administration's
priorities. It is also an example of the fact that when we invest in the American people including
the American worker, everybody benefits. The stop is part of what the Biden administration has
described as an effort to continue and here's how the Biden team describes it. Fighting for workers
advancing economic opportunity and building a strong economy for all Americans. But it also
continues a recent flood of visits from president Joe Biden and his top officials to a state that
could prove critical in the path to the White House in 2024. Oh, I would guess as part of this stop,
Ben Wickler, the Democratic Party chair who introduced Kamala Harris to the faithful there and
you know, the Democratic Party headquarters said that we got superpowers here in the state of Wisconsin.
We have superpowers because our votes have outsized weight relative to the rest of the nation.
For good or for bad folks, we are the eye of the hurricane. We are the center of the storm,
the state of Wisconsin. We always are. That's why we do the show. Someone's got to tell you what's
important today. They thought it was important for the vice president to be here. And since the
start of the year, again, back to the reporting at the journal sentinel, Biden officials have made
six visits to the state. That's a lot different than when Hillary won the nomination and never came back,
right? From Milwaukee and Waukeshaw, to Madison, in North of Green Bay, in Superior, the trips
underscored the heightened attention on Wisconsin heading into November and they come as the Biden
Harris campaign recently beefed up its staff in the state. Biden has made a concerted effort to
highlight the strong and growing economy. Devoters in Wisconsin in recent months, other top
administration officials like the First Lady Jill Biden, why she was just in Waukeshaw and Sunday,
I believe, have sought to energize women voters in a state where abortion will remain a top
campaign issue for Democrats. Now, just to decide that room today at the Democratic Party of Wisconsin,
hosting Kamala Harris, it was mostly women. It was overwhelmingly women. And the last time I saw
Kamala Harris in Milwaukee, which I guess it's been about six weeks, that crowd also, very female,
overwhelmingly female. And you don't necessarily see that at a lot of political events. Now, Harris
last visited Wisconsin in late January. That's the event. Rudy was at. When she kicked off her
nationwide tour focused on abortion access in Waukeshaw County, traditionally, a Republican
stronghold. Less so since we started going there, in a call with reporters, Republican Party
Wisconsin chairman Brian Schimmeng, isn't that guy tied into the January 6? Wasn't he part of
the criminal conspiracy? Didn't we discuss that earlier this week? But anyways, as they report here,
apparently they still want to include his quote, Republican Party Wisconsin chairman Brian
Schimmeng said Harris' stop and others aren't just visits their rescue missions. She's here for a
reason. And that is that this ticket's in trouble. If she has to come to the base of Democratic
voters in Wisconsin, in my hometown of Madison, to try and rescue the fortunes of this ticket,
they're in real trouble. Says Brian Schimmeng. This guy was complicit in the January 6.
Brian, do you have a good F and criminal defense attorney? I would stay out of the press there.
I know it's part of the job, but I'd be looking for other avenues to communicate my messaging.
Come back, we've got Scott Ross. He goes to Twitter sometimes. He's a firebrand there. He's also
a friend of the devil's advocates, occasional pundit. Always Jim and I. Always a good guest.
Scott Ross joins me live in the WMDX 92.7 FM studio stacks more devil's advocates. Me and Scott.
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Kamala Harris Day right here at Madison, Wisconsin, by proclamation of Mayor Satya,
Rhodes Conway and we've got other great news, celebratory news. The last confirmed bachelor in
the state of Wisconsin, accepting Glenn growthman is with me and he's no longer available, ladies.
Scott Ross, you got married, congrats to it.
Yes indeed. Back in December, I mean my now wife Lisa,
eloped in Big Sur, California. My first time having done that and it feels great.
Hopefully it sticks. I believe that it will. So that's a lot of fun and you usually call me
a bunch of different names before I come on. Jim and I pundit. Firebrand. Exactly.
Mean Twitter. So I thought I should add a more appropriate title. So yes, I am a non-confirmed
bachelor now or wait. Am I saying that correctly? I don't think that's right. Yeah, no. But anyhow,
Papa was a Rolex stone. No longer. No longer. There you go. So yes. So if she's listening
my wife, Lisa, love you, baby. She must be a sad because I know you. And you know, my wife might
actually be in this building somewhere. I got to be careful because she knows me well and you know,
they talk about grounding you grow. My wife grounds me. That means she kicks the snot out of you
in non-public circumstances, but maybe you're still in the honeymoon phase.
Absolutely in the honey. She grows you. She brings you back down to earth. Oh, but kicking that knee.
You wait. Give it some time. Scott Ross, let's talk about the crazy politics happening here in
the state of Wisconsin. Dude, you and I have cared so much about the politics here for so long.
Do you think we finally have fair state legislative maps? You think we finally overcome the
jury matter of the Republicans? Well, we'll never overcome the damage that those maps did for
the 13, 14 years that we had them. But yeah, absolutely. We've taken a massive step in what are
basically, you know, what is basically a sense of fairness, which existed in the state of Wisconsin
since, you know, 1848. You know, we, you know, we had a system that was so rigged against democracy.
It was so rigged against progress. It was so rigged against, you know, the people who need help the
most. And so it's just, it's cannot, you cannot, it is impossible to overstate what a change that
will make here in the state of Wisconsin. And for the better for people's lives. I mean, that's the
important thing. You know, the maps in, you know, the theory of maps being, you know, jury matter is
terrible. But the result of them, that's what's the real problem. That's what's what, you know,
what needed to be undone because they ran a muck. I mean, just, you know, if you start thinking about
just, you know, not even the worst thing they did, but like the 77th worst thing, it'll give you
nightmares. It could. Scott Ross, Mary and man, my guest, this sour, and also when Dom joined
after four, we'll keep talking for a bit. So I am also very optimistic, you know, for the first time
in a long time, there might be a reason to run for a political office in the state of Wisconsin.
Because if you're so gerrymandered, if you're so cracked and packed as Democrats, why bother,
right? I mean, we left two congressional districts uncovered the six in the eighth. I mean,
that's Glenn Growthment territory. The last confirmed bachelor in the state, you know, draw your own
conclusions. But yeah, I mean, you know, you just, you, you see because the thing is is that it,
in it, it affects statewide campaigns, you know, it doesn't just affect that race because if everybody's
not pulling in the same direction, if your party is only pulling half its weight to try and turn
voters out in that, in that thing, in that place, you're going to, you're going to come up short.
I mean, you're not going to get the goals that you want. Now, Democrats have done a phenomenal job,
you know, post Trump in getting the vote out statewide. You know, I mean, just look at Janet,
one by 11%. Janet, I'd probably say what's a Supreme Court justice. I'd probably say what's
to you. Exactly. So, um, you know, so you see the importance of that. And so I'm, you know,
again, you mentioned the eighth. I couldn't be more excited, you know, the idea that it's an open
seat and that they're, you know, there's a couple of people talking about running and certainly
Kristen Liarly, Dr. Liarly, you know, at the top, at the top of the list. And, you know, if you,
if you're thinking about an issue, you know, where in a race, you could capture the electorate
on an issue that matters, the fact that she's an OB-GYN and has fought, you know, to both protect
women's rights, but also to protect the health care of people all across the standards. It's
just amazing, you know, it's just an amazing confluence. And when you think of the clown cars that
they have on the other side, you know, you got Andre Jacques, the most anti-abortion
legislator in the history of the state of Wisconsin. And he's anti-vaccine, even though he
almost died of the COVID. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. You got Roger Roth, who's got like more
experienced writing concession speeches than even I do. And then you got the guy from Florida.
You got some Trump guy from Florida. You know, that district has always put moderates. Like,
go back like to, to Bob Cornell, you know, there have been Democrats that represented the eighth,
there have been Republicans that represented the eighth, but by, but they've all been moderates.
So any of these guys comes out of the primary. They are a radical change from what the eighth
congressional district has, has, has, has done with its congressional members for the last 50 years.
My point is this, Dems better get all in on what's going on in the eighth, like they're getting
all in on the third and the first and all over the state, because it's going to take everybody to
make sure that we put Trump away. And if Democrats don't compete in the eighth district, Trump is
going to win the state. I don't think they're going to let that happen. Um, Kristen Lierlees,
specifically, uh, she co-hosted when I was up in Green Bay last summer, late last summer,
last fall. And the advice I gave to her, she came out me and Michael in the mayor and coupled the
other broadcast host. And I had a hard time encouraging anyone to run against Mike Gallagher
in the eighth because the deck was stacked against her and Gallagher was an incumbent, you know,
a pretty decent as far as Republicans go. And that's a sliding scale, but it's a whole new ball
game. Scott, it's a whole new ball game. I mean, without the power of incompetency. And if
Jack is the opponent or the Florida guy, you know, the bruise of it, I believe. I mean, again,
I have, I have been no fan of Mike Gallagher in any way, shape or form. But what that guy wrote
bruise of it's wrote when Gallagher said, I'm not going to run again, was a terrifying
screed of, you know, it, you know, it's, it's, this guy worked for Trump. It's very clear that
Trump gets some of his talking points off a guy like this. So, you know, so again, there's an
amazing opportunity up in the eighth congressional district. And you know, in 2009,
Dems had five of the, five of the eight seats. Now they got two. So, you know, there's a great
opportunity. And again, with Trump on the ballot, I think it, you know, I think it helps because
Democrats have been able to win statewide elections since, since Trump,
came, you know, one and certainly since Roe v Wade was over turned. Oh, and again,
that's the other thing that dynamic, dramatic. Absolutely. And the thing about the, so you say,
like, you know, see your detractors like, well, the eight, you know, the eighth is, you know,
that's a tough Republican district. It's, it's definitely pro Republican. And it is.
But they didn't have a candidate in 2022. So that a to be logic of like, if you elect,
if you elect a Republican, they're going to keep abortion illegal. If you elect a Democrat,
you have a chance in the House of Representatives to pass the bill that would restore abortion rights
to people all across the country, a to be logic, but there was no candidate for the Dems in 2022.
As I think you mentioned at one point. And so that, that we haven't had that test. It's
amazing opportunity. It is an absolute amazing opportunity. And I, you know, again, I hope Dr.
Lially runs that's for sure because I think that changed everything. I don't think she has to
rely on DC Democrats. You know, we know how the D triple C does the D triple C always, you know,
always fails, always fails Wisconsin. They say they're investing this time again in the third.
Maybe the first, I hope it happens. You know, it's, you know, it's better. It's better to have
fair fights. But I think we talked to Lially, she has that ability, she would have that ability
to mobilize fundraising from outside of the state. You know, think of the small donor fundraising
for somebody who's an OBGYN who wants to restore the right to choose. She'd make a wonderful candidate.
Let's encourage her to run everyone. Call Kristen, tell her to run. I have done the same.
If I'm pushing a one towards a race, it's heard towards this. You know, and I'm just going to say
this because I know her. And I, we, we, uh, uh, there's the door County century, right? It's the
bike ride. It's 100 miles around the door. The entire, if you say so, writing a bike, 100 miles
is not my cup of tea. I did it a couple of years ago. Like I went up there, did it, you know,
um, and, uh, I, I, you know, told Kristen and I was thinking about doing it again. She's like,
oh, yeah, do it. I'm, you know, doing it with, with, with my boyfriend. And I was like, okay,
great. You know, get there. So we get there. You know, and again, I try and, you know,
I try and be fit. I try and keep myself active because otherwise, like, you know, I, you know,
just doesn't work for me. And, uh, I quit after like 13 miles because it was rainy. And, you know,
Kristen and her dude, you know, they make it. Texted me. Yeah, they texted me after and we're like,
you know, yeah, you're really pretty. Yeah, right. And I, she's a very positive human being
also. And I think that matters in politics because you got to, you got to tell them what you're
forward. Not just who you're against. Exactly. I totally agree with you on that. I'm for you, Scott,
Ross. And I'm happy you're married, man. I didn't realize you were showed off the ring. Like,
I'm not a dude. I never wore a ring. And then I finally, I would highly recommend the,
the marital tattoo because that way I don't have to wear the jewelry. I don't mind it, you know,
but I, you know, I, you know, I did come in for the, how my dad, quote unquote, lost his wedding ring
apparently, like two weeks after my parents got married, like, but then again, they were kids. So,
you know, I guess that happens. But I, I like it, you know, I, it works for, you know,
I barely wore my wedding ring for two weeks. Yeah, barely. And I was newly buried. It wasn't,
it wasn't what it represented. It was the fact that it just bugged the, you know, what out of me.
Unlike you, Scott, Ross, uh, so the eighth, we got that.
Come back to Kristen Leyer, Lee's going to cover that for us. Let me ask you about this.
Opponent to Tammy Baldwin, the porn stashio and Eric Hode V, the
California banker. And, and, you know, I believe I started the show yesterday, Scott, talking about
the, the connection to cheesebro and trupus and the fake elector scheme. And even the fact that
15 Wisconsin legislatures wrote a letter to the vice president asking him to break the process.
And we've got U.S. Senator Ron Johnson. We've got the former Republican party chairman Andrew
hit. We've got the new Republican party chair, Brian Schimmeng also involved apparently on the
inside on the fake elector scheme. So, you know, the whole Wisconsin GOPs corrupt, top the bottom.
But Eric Hode V's been living up LaGuda Beach for so long. Could he claim?
I'm not corrupted like the rest of the Wisconsin Republicans. I don't even live here.
Is that an effective campaign slogan? Yeah, he didn't even go here. You know, but yeah, I,
I mean, I, I actually, I saw, I saw how the, um, uh, this winter at, uh, what's that called, uh,
the, the, the benefit show Joey, Joey's song. I wasn't there. I, I went, you know,
no, it'll boyfriends, no, it'll girlfriend's great, you know, great cause, you know, epilepsy.
And, uh, I was in the restroom and I, there was a dude with a leather jacket and that porn stash.
And I like, oh, that thing sticks out. I think that, I think that's Humpty, you know, so he was
attending with his leather jacket and porn stash. So, let me ask you, he likes that brand, the
porn stashy old look and apparently his wife likes it, but lots of consulting class are telling
him, lose the stash. What, what's your opinion? I, you know, I, I, I think that, I think he's got
to keep it just, just for the sake of my talk radio show. Yeah. I mean, here's the thing. I mean,
again, you know, I talked about my old man, my old man had a mustache every moment of my life.
So like, and I would have elected the guy. Just the mustache. He had, he had, you know, just the,
just the mustache. Um, I, myself had been stashing at times, you know, so I don't have a thing.
What annoyed me about the story about Erica, these mustache in the journal sentinel, that there
was actually a Democratic consultant who, you know, wouldn't, wouldn't use their name to comment
on the mustache as well as a Republican one. And that seemed just kind of goofy of all the,
of all the things to, you know, insist on anonymity about commenting on somebody's terrible mustache.
It's, it seemed to be like the whole V campaign and focus grouped it, you know, for kicks and giggles.
He's got Ross. He wouldn't got married on us. Congratulations due to them. We're keeping them
around. We're going to talk some more Wisconsin politics. It's an ever-changing and entertaining
and sometimes a little bit scary. Come back with us. We know you will.
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the newly married. So I'm excited about that for you. Thank you very much.
That luster will wear off when poker night comes calling, but it's good for now.
Hey, listen, as long as she doesn't lose a bunch of money, I don't care.
Scott Ross, let me ask you about the alleged felonious behavior of a certain number of
Wisconsin Republicans as it relates to trying to beat Robin Voss in a privately offered.
And I mean, noble cause, absolutely trying to defeat Robin Voss, but the macabre sort of
purist, the Janelle branch into the world, the Adam Steen, who was the primary opponent.
And even the Trump super PAC, they all just flouted campaign finance laws in the state of Wisconsin.
And the Wisconsin ethics commission. I mean, this was the perfect storm because the lefties
are in for good governance. And the righties don't want to see their guy, Robin Voss intact.
Well, is a former member of the Wisconsin ethics commission. I can tell you that it seemed it had
to be, you know, it's a big deal because when Robin Voss and Scott Walker and Scott Fitzgerald
created the ethics commission and created the elections commission because they were under,
you know, because that was when the John Doe was going on and they were being investigated for
illegal coordination and corruption. And so they got rid of it. They specifically created,
you know, in the creation of the ethics commission to try and stop anything from happening because
having been a part of it. And I can't talk about anything that went on behind closed doors.
Don't talk about fight clubs, Scott, but I can tell you this, you know, the steps that have to
be taken for it to get to this point. Yeah, they don't require just one bipartisan vote.
There are several that must go on in the process, you know, in order to make that all happen.
I know if you're arguing process, you're losing. But anyhow, so and I, you know, it wasn't created
for consensus. It was created for just the opposite. I was created to create obstruction for
ethics in the state of Wisconsin. Yeah, they've reached consensus. It was so bad.
Wichinelle Branch and Adam Steen and the Trump super PAC did. It was so flouting of the campaign
financials. They effectively used out party county parties. They put 63 on the checks so they
could exceed the campaign finance limits to a assembly candidate. I mean, did this harken
you back this because Scott Walker asked? Yeah, it absolutely. I mean, you know, just the idea,
Mike, that the case was so strong and the three democratic appointees thought the corruption
was so bad that they, and they magically were able to get Robin Voss as a pointee on the ethics
commission for Republican representative, Patrick Dakota, to join them with the other members in
supporting this. You know, I did, you know, it's amazing. I tell you, it's the perfect story.
It's the perfect storm. But I will, but you know, the evidence is very clear. And again,
this is again, another example of Robin Voss being hoisted on his own Petard because as part of
the creation of the ethics commission and the election commission, they changed the campaign
finance laws to make it easier for campaign committees to be able to get in state campaign
committees to be able to get huge enormous checks. Yeah, but over on the Republican assembly side,
Robin Voss is in control of that campaign. And this was the opposition to Robin Voss, right? The
primary was to primary Robin Voss. Adamstein wasn't going to get any of that sweet, sweet dark money.
Yep. And so not from Robin Voss. No, no, and of course Robin Voss, you know, Adamstein was not
going to get anything from Robin Voss's, quote unquote, independent group jobs first, which just
happens to be, you know, the bagged person for jobs first that's run, you know, around eight
million dollars, maybe more attacking assembly democratic candidates. Just happens to be run by
representative Voss's third spouse, speaking of marriage. Oh, Michelle Litchkin. Yeah. And so,
you know, again, the, you know, and they changed the laws so that you could coordinate with
independent groups. You couldn't do that before. Like, there was a thing called the wall and you
couldn't go over the wall after a certain date. Wanker went over that wall. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
He was, yes, absolutely. You need, he needed to be on that wall, as they say.
But yeah, so the idea that all this is happening, but again, it was so obvious. It was very so
obvious. They were just, you know, it's good for justice, but it's annoying when people are
that dumb because it makes us all look dumb. And so I'm pleased that some justice is going to
happen related to some of the, I have not seen any of that justice administered. I haven't seen
any indictments in the state of Wisconsin. And I would question, be it the fake electoral scheme or
this clear violation. I mean, we've got criminal referrals, felonies, criminal referrals from the
Wisconsin ethics commission unanimously. Seems like someone should act in what they threw at the
local DA's, but their kicker was 60 days, 60 days goes to the DOJ. Why wait? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So
we'll see what happened. I mean, again, we'll have to see what happens. I certainly, you know, I,
I think that it's pretty clear that there was serious wrong doing there. Maybe, you know,
as a result of not doing anything, some of those local DA's can be challenged by Democrats because
though, you know, I think they're all Republicans that, that Republican DA's were the different,
covering the different jurisdictions of this. But, you know, if not, yeah, the Department of Justice
needs to get involved for sure because like you never reinforce an undesired behavior. And as we've
seen over and over again, you know, each successive Republican presidential administration that was
not brought to any justice, the next one just went worse. We didn't do any, you know, Obama didn't do
anything about about W, you know, W, you know, the, you know, the, you know, the lying us in the two
wars or lying us into the one war and, you know, the other thing being so mismanaged. And then we
get Trump with all this. And so, you know, the idea that he hasn't been brought to justice because he
has not, you know, it's gone further, but he has not been brought to justice in any of these cases.
We'll have to see what happens. But, you know, again, never reinforce an undesired behavior. Do you
think the failure to prosecute Trump gives license to all these other Republican malfeasant?
Absolutely. And the idea that the U.S. Department of Justice in Merit, Garland, you know, that it's
a couple months before the election and we're finally having in Davis is it's absurd. It's just
absolutely absurd. It would be a terrible tragedy of General Branch and was convicted before
any of the January six perpetrators. As long as they all get convicted, I'd be okay. It's got
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