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All bets are off when Republicans get together
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Welcome back to the devil's advocates radio show a taco Tuesday.
Happy or happy hour.
It's getting happy up in here.
We've been joined by the incomparable bill press.
He's a podcaster.
He's a punty.
He's afraid of the devil's advocates.
And I understand today you were pulling some jury duty bill.
Hey, Bill, welcome.
Hey, hey, hey.
Hey, Crony.
Hey, Dom.
Yeah.
Happy new jury, Judy.
I went to and I did my civic duty in Washington DC.
I was there.
I I got picked for a panel, but they didn't want me on the jury.
Yeah.
Yeah, you know,
wasn't the Trump jury bill.
We got to be on the the E.
Jean Carroll case.
Listen.
That's you.
Oh, that's a New York.
I was I was praying for the, uh, or the January six days here in Washington,
DC, you know, that's one jury.
They'd never put me on.
Well, not if you told the truth about it.
Not if you show up with an executor's mask, Bill, but I think, you know,
I think everybody should do jury duty.
I've done it for and, you know, uh, it's, uh, takes a lot of time.
But, um, you get to learn a little bit about the way the system works, right?
And you, you, you, uh, you pay back a little bit, right?
What are you to give your time and, and make a decision and you meet some nice people?
And so, but, but good, but it's done for like two years now.
All right.
Well done.
You know, I've been skirt and jury duty for the last 53.
I've never pulled it, but come on, dude, get out there.
They're going to ask no one wants them on a jury bill.
Would you, who's pyramid?
I am peerless in this world, Bill.
Well, let me, let me ask you, uh, we, we just wrapped up the last hour talking about the timing of everything.
And if Donald Trump, you know, is not convicted in, in one of these cases prior to the election,
and he wins the election, you know, what happens?
Uh, and we're talking specifically about the state case in Georgia.
Uh, if, if the Fawni Willis case and the election interference case against, uh,
Donald Trump, but that's still ongoing and Trump were to be elected president.
Uh, Kurty says the supremacy closures make that all go away.
I find that it would defer it until he was no longer the president.
They could not bring state trial charges against a sitting president of the United States.
That's my understanding.
I don't know legal expert, but I watch him as soon be C bill.
I was law and order bill.
I hate that thought process.
Uh, I want to know where you stand on it.
What do you think?
Well, the fact is, um, I want to talk about Iowa with you guys too.
Yeah, yeah, we'll get to Iowa.
We just came to Iowa bill.
I know you did.
That's why I want to find out why the hell did you go there?
But anyway, um, great question, Bill.
I'm looking forward to the answer myself.
Okay.
So no, the fact that under the existing justice department policy, you cannot file
charges against a sitting president of the United States.
It's not in the Constitution, but the justice department did put out a ruling.
I believe that was after Watergate, you know, around that to whatever I'd have
checked my historic, so it's not ancient, right?
It's like 20th century that says the president, because he's so busy.
He's got so much responsibility, uh, that so much going on that he is, he's got
to get out of get out of the courtroom, pass, if you will, while he's president,
not, but the Constitution, and I got it right, I can get it for you if you want.
The Constitution does say once he's out of the White House, man, he is fair game.
So this BS that the Trump attorneys are putting up there right now, saying unless
the Senate convicts him, you cannot, you cannot then file charges against him is
first, two thing, number one is, number one, it's the Constitution says the exact
opposite.
And number two, when the Donald Trump was on trial, the second time on that
charge in the Senate, his attorneys made the argument, you can't convict him
here, let the courts convict him.
Mitch McConnell said the same thing.
They made the opposite argument then that they're making today, right?
But, um, but a small distinction bill, uh, I'm not, I'm not talking about
federal charges.
I'm saying the state charges effectively get put on hold because of the supremacy
clause of the Constitution.
I'm not suggesting, uh, it, it's the OMB's memo from, from Nixon that would prevent,
uh, ongoing charges of trial.
I, I don't think it's, I think it's a little twisted.
Look, none of us are lawyers, right?
Right, but Lisa is, it's the Department of Justice's interpretation of the
supremacy clause.
I think there's a lot of dispute about, but it's, it's not been challenged.
And so people go along with it and, um, and they, you know, that, that's, that's
the case.
Now, I think somebody should challenge it.
I think it's, I think it's going to bring challenge bill.
Whether we wanted to or not, uh, but yeah, yeah.
And so you've got a president who's really making the argument that I am above
the law that, yeah, I put my hand on the Bible and I swore that I will uphold
the Constitution and the laws in the United States of America, except the ones I
don't agree with, except I can send out the Navy Seals to kill my political
opponent and they can't do anything about it because I'm president.
And I say the idea that anybody would bring that argument that we would
even give time in a courtroom to consider that argument is just un, it's
unbelievable.
And yet here we are.
Here we are.
And now we get one judge in, in, in, uh, great judge here in DC who heard it and
said, you're out of your freaking mind, dude, right?
Uh, then they challenged it.
So now they have three judges and we saw what they thought about it.
They laughed, basically laughed them out of court.
He is going to watch.
They're going to rule against them.
He'll, he'll challenge it again.
And then the full bunk will have to, if they, if they decide, would take it
up, they'll knock it down and then I'll go to the Supreme's and Clarence Thomas
will vote for him.
Sure.
He's at least got one.
It might go eight one, but he'll get a one.
He's our, he's our friend Bill press, uh, Bill, appreciate you joining us
today.
You didn't have to go to Iowa.
We froze our asses off.
So you didn't have to bill, uh, last night,
it was a little surprising.
We were still hearing the, the, the pro mega caucus speech.
And the AP had already called the state of Iowa for Trump.
Not a single person had voted in the but where we were.
And the race was already called Bill.
I think the Republicans rigged Iowa last night.
What do you think, Bill?
I think the media rigged Iowa from the beginning.
Look, uh, don't, don't give me any grief for not going to Iowa.
I've been there too damn many times.
You know, and I remember, I remember fondly, President Pat Robertson.
I remember President Rick Santorum.
I remember President Ted Cruz and President Mike Huckabee of President Howard Dean.
I've been saying for years, I was a joke.
It is a total joke.
It does not represent the United States.
It doesn't mean anything 110,000 people out of 330 million.
And by the way, with all due respect, 110 wackos as far as Uncons are and in the state of Iowa.
Go out there and we're supposed to say, Oh, you, you, you're smarter than we are.
You're going to tell us who should be the next president of the United States.
It is nutty, total night.
I'd like to know how much CNN spent per 110,000 votes in Iowa, right?
They probably spent $25 million to report on nothing.
And then they caught, you're right, but I couldn't believe it.
I'm getting, I was doing some media last night.
I want to, you know, I waited till about 730 our times and trying to tune in.
And they see it and was calling the election.
And I said, wait a minute, nobody's even voted yet.
They had, they were walking in and based on the people walking in, not the votes.
They call the thing is this the whole thing is crazy.
Entrance polling, entrance polling apparently gave them enough confidence to call it before anyone.
They'd actually voted in Iowa.
I don't know if you remember.
In fact, I don't remember all the details of it.
There was a very important US Senate.
No, it might have been a presidential race in California, where the networks called,
I believe it was a Jimmy Carter election, reelect with Reagan or whatever.
But, but at any rate, the networks called it while the people in California were still,
the polls were still open and they changed the law.
You cannot do that now in a presidential election.
You have to wait until all the polls in that state are closed before any networks can call an election.
Yeah, obviously didn't work last night in Iowa because no rules apply to the Republican, Republican crime.
All bets are off when Republicans get together in Iowa, Bill.
What do you think about the outcome?
Is this a show of strength from Trump?
Or is this a sign of weakness?
The guy was the former incumbent president and he gets 51%.
Is that me, Kim, the king of the party, Bill?
Well, I'd have to say you've got to say it is a sign of strength on his part in the Republican party.
I mean, he got more, he got a bigger margin than anybody ever has in history among candidates in Iowa.
One by a bigger margin than anybody has.
You got to give him some credit for that.
He put together a good ground game.
He was up against jokers of kind of opposition, obviously.
But I think what it means is this primary is over before it started.
And so let's get out of our heads.
Any idea that there are any Republicans out there who really want anybody other than Trump?
They want Trump.
They know who he is.
They knew last night that the man they were voting for was going to be in a New York courtroom today talking about
how much money he owes a woman.
He's been found guilty of defaming and raping.
And they made him, you know, the biggest candidate winner ever in Iowa.
What does this party stand for anymore?
Well, Bill, let's give this small
nugget of credit to the retail politics of Iowa.
Because when faced with the Vec Ramaswamy, the man went there.
He was in every county, did the double grassly, visited all 99 counties twice.
And after meeting the man, they found him less appealing.
I mean, it kind of shook out for Ramaswamy the way it should have.
Yeah.
And what's the first thing he did?
He adores his Trump, right?
And let me tell you, it's only a matter of time before Dostantis and Nikki Haley endorse Trump too.
It's over.
It's over.
It was over before he got it.
It's done over Bill.
You're sticking around, aren't you?
Oh, no, yeah.
So we're going to beat the crap out of him, right?
But I mean, then the Republican primary is over.
And that's what just
CNN might just call all the other states right now, like they did in Iowa last night.
Little disappointing for the Dostantis followers, Bill Press sticking around,
that will disappoint no one.
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Thank you for sticking around for another segment.
Bill, we mentioned the last segment.
We were certainly not lawyers.
So it's hard to determine what could would happen as we go forward with all these cases
against Donald Trump.
But I am curious to get your political sense.
Certainly the Republican Party, apparently they want, they want themselves some,
some Donald Trump.
But what happens if one of these convictions come through?
I'm seeing polls that say, yeah, a lot of, a lot of support will fade off if he is convicted
between now and the presidency.
But if he comes to Milwaukee at the RNC,
how do you see this plain out if he comes in as a convicted felon?
Well, first of all, I just want to do a cheap, quick plug here.
You mentioned the podcast and you know, we all have a lot of guests that we love.
But today's podcast is with Jamie Raskin.
He is, he's a superstar as far as you want to introduce us, man.
Yeah, we love Jamie Raskin.
Oh, please.
Time is we'll have to pull it up.
And he gives his take on having Hunter Biden in the committee room last week and how that
came down and also they're the keystone cops.
I mean, between James Comer and Jim Jordan, they couldn't organize a two-car funeral, right?
And so anyhow, I just want to recommend everybody at Jamie Raskin at his,
he's at his finest in I think in the podcast today.
So to your question, first of all, I think, look, roll the dice, 91 charges.
He's got to be convicted of, I'd say, a good dozen of them or more.
And I think before the convention, and I think I think we'll have an impact.
I've said on your show before, and I got to tell you, it's looking
worse and worse for my argument that he's not somehow not going to end up being the nominee.
But I don't know what you saw on the polling in Iowa.
So yeah, he wins 51% of the mega people, 33% of the mega people said they wouldn't vote for him
if you were convicted of a crime.
That's it. That's that's among his redest of the red base in Iowa.
By the way, 66% of them also said Joe Biden didn't win the last election,
which tells you they're getting something about.
So I think the only thing that could stop him right now is a heart attack or a conviction.
And then not just one conviction, but convicted.
And by the way, and I think, and Amy Raskin makes this point,
he believes the documents case is the strongest against Trump.
He doesn't see any defense at all for stealing the documents.
Number one, and refusing to give them back.
Well, the the federal judge he appointed,
Eileen Cannon is the defense delay delay and eventually, you know, he'll pardon himself.
Well, that's their goal.
You know, they don't want to win any of these cases.
All they want to do is delay them until he's back in the White House and then he can pardon
himself across the board.
Yeah, she can she's a problem down there, but you know, she got smacked around the first time
that she went total pro Trump.
And so I think she may be a little more careful.
And then Jamie also believes that the I mean,
what the justice department did in the insurrection case is they took all the evidence of the
January 6th committee. I mean, you could not have more tougher, more incriminate evidence than they
and they and they took that and that's their case.
And so Jamie also believes and the judges here is not going to is not going to let Trump delay
that he thinks that he'll be found guilty here too.
And I think that could change the whole ball game.
I mean, seriously, how can they all right, we saw what happened and I will last night,
but you still have to ask yourself the question.
How could the Republican party nominate a convicted felon, right?
Even though Chris Anounu says I vote for him still to be working.
Oh my god. Yeah, it's it's it's just buckles of mine, right?
It might have only been 56,000, but they came out in 30 to 40 degrees below zero.
The caucus for that soon to be convicted felon bill press.
I know and you know what I do love this that Ron DeSantis went to every one of the 99 counties
and Donald Trump 198 out of 99.
Well, DeSantis didn't win Johnson County either.
Haley did by one vote.
And of course they're asking for a recount in Johnson County because it must be rigged.
Bill press.
Do any of the other states matter?
I mean, effectively, you got new Hampshire where DeSantis doesn't have much support.
Then they're heading down to South Carolina where Nikki Haley was the former governor.
And then on to Nevada and Nikki Haley is set up in the primary in Nevada on the six,
but the primary doesn't allocate any of the delegates.
The caucus does on the 8th.
So she may get the victory in the paper on February 7th, but she gets zero delegates.
Okay, my prediction tonight, first of all, I want to repeat what I said earlier.
As far as I'm concerned, the quick answer to the question is no, it's over.
Donald Trump at this point absent a heart attack or a parcel of convictions is going to be the
nominee. I mean, Nikki Haley can't stop him, Ron DeSantis. Look, come on.
They were still 20 points behind, right?
Big deal, which one came in second, which they were so far behind it really didn't matter.
That's right to Bill, but it was 30 points behind.
Oh, sorry, there you go.
But then yeah, New Hampshire, okay.
So she's going to beat DeSantis and New Hampshire BFD.
And then Trump's going to beat her in South Carolina.
If it ain't over last night, it'll be over in South Carolina.
And Nikki Haley will probably come out of South Carolina and endorse Donald Trump
because boy, she really, really wants to be vice presidential nominee.
And you think that's what she's gunning for?
I had even heard it said it.
She performed well in New Hampshire.
Well, Trump, the deal maker will go make a deal and take her, take her out,
set her on the shelf and effectively offer her the job.
Does she want it?
Absolutely. I think she can taste it.
Will she get it?
No freaking way.
You know, she's going to get it at least to panic.
Really, I threw that one out there the other day.
And crew to make fun of me.
Why do you think at least to panic?
I don't think she's pretty enough for Trump's taste.
If Trump's making a woman, it's going to be Christy known.
But tell me why?
Because she's the biggest suck up in the entire Congress,
worse than Kevin McCarthy.
I mean, Donald Trump had the audacity to call the criminals
who attacked our capital hostages comparing them to the men and women
who were beaten and raped and kidnapped by Hamas, right?
And calling these people hostages and what are the least
defining for us to say?
Oh, yes, I don't.
I think we should free our hostages.
She'll say anything, do anything Donald Trump wants.
She is trying so hard.
And you know, she's not a person of color.
I'm sad that Marjorie Taylor Greene doesn't even factor in here, math bill.
I think we can agree Trump's crazy, but he's not that crazy.
Now, I know you're a California guy, Bill.
You a 49ers fan?
You got a little rivalry going on this weekend?
I'm not a sports fan.
I don't care.
I know who your blood sport, Bill.
I know who the 49ers are, but I have no idea who they're playing.
Bill, press.
People want to check out your podcast.
You're in a view with Congressman Jamie Raskinworth.
Where can they find it worth and get more information, Bill?
Anywhere you get your podcast friends.
So if you get it on Google, get it on Apple, you get it on wherever, right?
Spotify.
I'm there.
I'm there with Jamie Raskin.
Check it out.
I got a tip for you, Bill.
If anybody asks, the Niners are going to lose to the Packers this weekend.
Tell your friends.
You'll see them smart.
But Taylor Swift won't be there.
So why do I care?
Bill, press.
Thank you for being here on the devil's advocates.
Always appreciate when you come around, Bill.
Happy New Year.
Happy New Year, buddy.
Thank you.
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And Jamie Solid, we're going to get him one of these days.
Maybe Bill could introduce us.
Yeah, Nate, come on, Nate.
Bill's got quite the rollin' exercise suspect.
Well, he still has the rollin' decks.
That's how long Bill's been around.
We tease because occasionally, Bill gets the chimes during the interview.
Looked.
You know, I just feel like saying, okay, boo.
We tried, man.
We tried.
We'll try again.
We'll keep working on, Bill.
Speaking of boomers, Dom, you know what?
This Iowa caucus ass kick and hand it out by Donald Trump.
You know who this is?
Good news for.
Donald Trump.
Joe Biden.
Oh, do tell.
Do tell.
Donald Trump, I quote the raw story.
I like it.
Didn't Trump also Trump?
He liked it, Ron.
Yes, yes, and believe that wasn't the case.
Donald Trump easily won the Iowa Republican caucus.
And that could be great news for President Joe Biden.
What?
Yes, yes, it could be good news for Biden.
If this article didn't just drop something in the middle of it.
And I hate to point out my inability.
I feel like a boomer here, but I don't come up with an exercise here.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Are you really, really bad?
I'm going to try again.
You just come up.
Let me see if I can get beyond the first set of control.
All delete, man.
I know.
I'm also disappointed in my own actions.
Pollock has shown that the most undecided voters remain unsure of Trump
would be the GOP nominee, but the former presidents
overwhelming win.
In the first primary could snap this year's race and the focus
is a rematch of the 2020 election
and help Biden stop his slide in the approval ratings.
Reporting by the messenger, one of Dom's new favorites has been all over the place.
The stronger Trump is the better off Biden is a democratic strategist.
Brad Bannon, both candidates are unpopular,
but Biden's top advisors believe that voters will change their minds once they see
the alternative is four more years of Trump chaos, right?
Here's a quote for those of us who have been paying attention.
It's been obvious for a long time that Trump will be the nominee
barring prisons at democratic stretches.
Christy Setser, the fact that you even have to throw that
act of prison, their nominee will be the nominee.
But normal people won't tune in for another couple of months until super Tuesday
when Trump wraps up the nomination.
Well, a trial for federal election crimes, right?
If they start on January, the January 6 trial is scheduled
in Chutkin's courtroom on March 4th.
And of course, he's run it up to flagpole this immunity claim.
That's laughable.
It's terrible.
But it is a strong delay tactic, at least so far.
But if the US Supreme Court or even an on-bunk district court.
All they need to take it up, all they need to do is reject it.
We're not taking it up.
I mean, that would be great.
What does that argue about?
I don't even know how it could even be taken up.
Why would you do that?
I would be so excited to give you live super Tuesday Trump trial coverage
right here on the greatest radio show ever.
The rest of this thought.
Why last night's performance by Trump could for Biden,
the split screen should further aid Biden,
the split screen of super Tuesday vol.
Trump's at federal trial.
You know, here's Trump coming from the courtroom.
Here's Trump going off to the super Tuesday rally.
That's very similar to the Iowa thing, right?
Here's Trump winning the Iowa caucuses.
Here's Trump.
New York is using more care while he's tweeting,
while in the courtroom further defaming his rape victim.
Let's be clear about the 2020 election.
Trump exhausted every legal avenue available to him to overturn the election.
Everyone Biden said in a recent speech.
But the legal path just took Trump back to the truth
that I'd won the election.
He was a loser.
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Mark, I see you be patient for a moment longer.
Because we've got a little of the sound
from the big winner and I don't mean Joe Biden.
The big winner in Iowa last night, apparently Donald Trump.
And a little magnanimous question, Mark.
Sort of a tone down Trump.
You know, feeling good about his big victory.
Let's play just a little of the sound.
A little broccoli.
You could take it.
You can have.
You have to take it.
Cut one, please.
We want to thank the great people of Iowa.
Thank you.
We love you all.
Iowa.
I hear you have to think about Iowa.
More Trump.
The ever-enunciating Trump.
Thinking his opponents, the two that mattered.
DeSantis and Haley.
I want to congratulate Ron and Nikki
for having a good time together.
We're all having a good time together.
You know, Bert Brein and DeSantis.
I think he was actually did very well.
You know, what?
I mean, I'm by 30 points.
He performed better than he did.
DeSantis, Bert Brein and DeSantis.
I think he had to like,
literally make an effort not to name call
and actually refer to them by their first names,
which is perhaps somewhat disrespectful.
Why Magnanimous in victory?
If one cannot crap on their opponent,
a victory, Trump,
when are you going to do so every other minute of his life?
Trump, last night, congratulating.
Ramaswamy cut three, please.
I also want to congratulate Vivek
because he did a hell of a job.
He came from zero and he's got a big percent,
probably eight percent, almost eight percent.
And that's an amazing job.
And he goes home with zero with zero.
Trump doing the Beatles come together.
Now's the time says Trump cut four.
I really think this is time now for everybody,
our country to come together.
We want to come together.
Whether it's Republican or a Democrat,
or a liberal or conservative,
it would be so nice if we could come together.
Yeah, and that way we wouldn't have to overthrow
the government if you all just legally vote for me.
Wouldn't that be nice?
We just come together.
Well, but it's not rigged.
A deportation is not clear on this one.
Nate, let's play cut five, please.
Played the favorites.
We don't have to deport this.
We're going to have to have a deportation level
that we haven't seen in this country for a long time.
All right.
That's an interesting thing to start
through on some of you people out of here.
When do the deportations begin?
Vivek Vivek Vivek,
I've heard it from so many ways.
Ramaswami, he suspended his campaign
after coming in a distant fourth yesterday.
Let's hear him on cut sub in, please Nate.
We've looked at it every which way.
And I think it is true
that we did not achieve the surprise
that we wanted to deliver tonight.
Oh, man.
I would just say, you know, it's a rigged election.
Get your supporters to go and storm the Capitol
in Dubuque.
What happened to the Capitol?
I know, but we were in Dubuque.
They're going to storm Dubuque.
No, storm the the shot hall.
Where were we last night at the restaurant?
You know, the shot tower in man.
Don't take that Vivek.
It was rigged against you the whole time.
You know, rigged in the sense that other people
wanted Trump and the other Republicans instead of you
if that's rigged and yet was rigged.
But the Republicans
when exposed to the fact Ramaswami,
I mean, even Republicans know what they don't like.
And it was Vivek.
He's suspended his campaign cut eight.
As of this moment,
we are going to suspend this presidential campaign.
This is like the Captain Kirk of goodbyes speeches.
I must leave the race now.
No path to victory.
Please, Nate, cut nine.
There is no path for me to be the next president.
Absent things that we don't want to see happen in this country.
Again, hang on, play that again, please.
Absent things we don't want to see happen again.
But let's do one more time, please.
There is no path for me to be the next president.
Absent things that we don't want to see happen in this country.
That's an interesting comment.
But we'll keep that contingency plan.
We'll keep that plan B.
I have going to endorse Donald Trump.
Vivek, cut 10, please.
Earlier tonight, I called Donald Trump to tell him
that I congratulated him on his victory.
And now going forward, he will have my full endorsement.
He got the full Ramaswami.
He's a pause talk talker.
I find that a little disconcerting.
That was not, it was probably more his attitude in there and the blatant.
I mean, he's like a racist and like the most racist.
Like you think Trump's racist.
Let me show you.
Let me show you.
I would be the greatest of all the racist.
We have more though.
We have what?
The number two, number two, uh, DeSantis.
I realized that I predicted DeSantis,
cried in his pillow last night.
I think he still probably did.
And, and, but he did come in and too.
He'll come in second.
You could say he will say here in a moment that he punched his ticket.
He punched his ticket that nowhere.
You're not going anywhere DeSantis.
You, sir, lost by 30.
I don't care if you took a, uh, uh,
second place.
That's like first loser.
Let's play a cut 12, please name.
In spite of all of that that they threw out us,
everyone against us, we've got our ticket punched out of Iowa.
You're lucky you didn't get punched in Iowa.
Everything they threw it on.
The underdog that is DeSantis.
Oh, a new birth of freedom.
Let's hear the motivating speech by DeSantis cut 13, please.
We represent a chance to reverse the madness that we've seen in this country.
To reverse the decline of this country and to give this country a new birth of freedom
and a restoration of sanity.
That's what we are going to do.
How, how is he both whiny and celebratory at the same moment?
He, he still has the whiny tone.
I've, I've noticed that immediately about DeSantis.
Just, I didn't, it's not, it's not great.
It's like he's really forcing it.
It, it, it's, it's really hard to believe he beat
Ramaswami.
I mean, they're both the testable human beings, but
it had to be a tough choice for many of the Iowa caucusers.
Let's play more of DeSantis.
The number two, getting those marching orders cut 14.
We have our marching orders.
Our marching orders are to do all we can to preserve what George Washington
called the sacred fire of liberty.
You're marching orders.
Thank you, Rhonda Santos, cut 15.
We thank you for your effort.
We thank you for your support.
You also get a ticket punched out of the Hawkeye state.
Oh, more, more, more ticket punching.
What a ticket punching going on.
Where, where are the friendlies?
I mean, he didn't this supposed to be his
victory second place rally.
Yeah, man, people want hope through it.
Second is the new first cut 16.
People want to have hope for this country's future.
And that's what we represent.
Hope and change.
I think I've heard that before.
His crowd's hoping he shuts up soon.
Oh, but let's let's talk about this.
Curated the media.
You know, it was all against him because they want Trump.
Was it rigging?
I admit it, Ron, the media rigged it against you.
Cut 17.
Don't get me wrong.
I'm not saying the order would have been different.
Had they waited 30 minutes or 45 minutes.
But I do think some people decided to walk out.
And when you talk about a proportional
weekend situation, you know, that could have shifted a
delegate or two.
It's very possible.
It's, it's very possible.
One more from the number two cut 18, please.
You owe the people of New Hampshire a debate.
This is a, this is a time-honored tradition that you debate
in New Hampshire the week before the New Hampshire primary.
So I'm, I plan on being there on Thursday.
I understand why she doesn't want to, want to debate.
And yes, Donald Trump should debate as well.
But either way, I'm going to be there.
And so I hope both of them come.
And they have both announced neither will attend.
The debate has been canceled.
There is no debate.
There is no debate.
There was an end debate.
No ABC debate.
No, Ron, you might as well stay in Iowa, man.
There's no debate that there will be no debate.
And go and order another park chop, sir.
Your campaign is over.
I'll run out of time.
Well, wait, we went.
We have some sound from Nikki Haley as well.
Her crew at least was excited about it.
It's their place.
I did see some of that last night.
And I, she's a better speaker.
I think she seemed certainly a little more enthusiastic
and less robotic than DeSantis.
More Yehara and less Captain Curry.
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We're going to get to the Nikki Haley sound.
If you're Captain Curry,
is that make me spark live long and prosper?
I'm the logical one.
You're the one that sleeps with green newtons.
Because Kurt, man, he was...
Hey, there's a lot of love to go around, man.
This is a big, big universe.
He loved them all.
It's nothing wrong with that.
There was no race, creed, or anything.
No, I'm not at that point.
We're past all that.
I'm not a slut.
I just love love.
Let's hear some of the number three from last night.
Nikki Haley, she's congratulated Donald Trump.
Cut 20, please, Nate.
I want to congratulate President Trump on his win tonight.
We have had an amazing 11 months here in the Hawkeye state.
11 months to finish third.
That's a lot.
I mean, let me just point this out.
You know what the Olympics?
The bronze medalist doesn't get to give a speech.
Yeah, but they work a lot harder than 11 months.
Plus, there's like natural skill and time and energy and effort.
Dietary restrictions, you know, social restrictions.
You got at the gym all the time.
I mean, 11 months, man.
It's a long time.
It's eating a lot of pork chops, shaking a lot of babies in Iowa, man.
A lot of corn in the crap.
Let's play Cut 21.
How are we doing?
The pundits will analyze the results from every angle.
We get that.
Third.
But when you look at how we're doing,
in New Hampshire, in South Carolina,
and beyond, at least she's got supporters.
It's one you can say for the Sances.
It is now a two person race, according to Nikki Haley Cut 22.
I can safely say tonight,
Iowa made this Republican primary a two person race.
And what's two, or is that no?
Trump and who?
Haley and Trump.
Okay, that's what made it clear.
Because she didn't say it.
I don't want to assume.
Last one from third place,
bronze medal winner, Nikki Haley Cut 23.
Do you want more of the same?
Or do you want a new generation of conservative leadership?
I'll take a new generation of conservative leadership that, you know,
doesn't incite insurrection when they lose a free, fair election.
That's all I'm asking for.
I'm down with that.
What do you think six weeks from now?
Nikki Haley will be offering her heartfelt endorsement of Donald Trump.
Six weeks?
I'm predicting March 15.
That's, well, it's not even six weeks.
That'd be closer to two months.
It's January 15, 16.
It's 16th, yep, yep.
I had to ask earlier.
The life of Ryan.
Traveler.
Eight, four, four, nine, six, seven, two, seven, eight,
nine, some role reversal.
It was, I'm not going.
It's not going very well for me.
It was Iowa caucuses day after.
I knew that.
I knew yesterday with caucuses.
So thank you.
That's the sound.
That's the update on to New Hampshire.
We're not going to New Hampshire, right?
Okay.
It's not legal marijuana.
Okay.
Hold on.
Either is Iowa.
Well, at least I can drive there.
Eight, four, four, four.
Drive through Illinois.
If you play your cards, right?
Nice.
Six, seven, two, seven, eight, nine.
You take the long road home.
Let's get going on the phones.
CJ, you've been patient.
Welcome.
CJ, what do you got for us?
Hey, CJ.
Hey, guys.
Thank you for taking my call.
But I just want to remind you guys that
January 6, Nancy Pelosi did not
the committee allow the Republicans
to choose their committee members.
The first time ever.
And, um, you know, any one of these candidates.
Liz, Jamie was number three in Republican leadership.
Adam Kinzinger is a former veteran
and served with some distinction in the U.S. Congress.
And I would also note CJ, uh,
they Trump tried to get what?
His hack, uh, Jim Jordan.
You can't, right?
You can't make it a crap show.
I know that's what his, uh, second impeachment.
Well, really both impeachments were crap shows
because Republicans thought they were there
to play defense.
But CJ, it's very hard to defend the actions.
And when you didn't have a friendly defender
out there, you know, basically taking the investigation off course,
it was pretty damning of your guy.
Well, I wish you would look at, uh, other issues
as closely as you guys still look at January 6.
Well, you guys won the Iowa caucus's last night, dude.
We were there.
One of these candidates, any one of these candidates
is going to do more for our country
to make it secure and prosperous.
And that's why any one of them,
and you would expect us to acknowledge their victories.
Should they win the electoral college?
But the problem is your guy didn't.
That's the problem, CJ.
Your guy didn't acknowledge when he lost.
But see, you guys want to end the electoral college.
And then yours and my votes won't matter.
Just the way you want to do it in the state.
So I think that one ended.
I was okay with the electoral college.
I don't know, man, uh, the electoral college.
You don't because if you, uh, our votes won't matter.
Only New York, Florida, Texas and California
will decide the election.
Well, the greater American people will,
instead of Wisconsin, North Carolina,
Georgia, Arizona and, and, and Michigan.
Man right now.
It's like five states.
And, and sometimes it's a bit of a pain in the ass
to live in one of those fishbowl states.
You know what I'm saying, CJ?
Because life never gets better here.
It's always a political cycle.
Now, I like politics.
So it doesn't bother me much.
And thanks for the call, CJ.
Most people won't tune in to what till super Tuesday.
I mean, was that when it people,
the normal folks, the regular folks
that don't live, eat, breathe and crap.
Most people will start tuning in around Halloween.
They'll say it's an election year.
What?
Oh, man, am I registered to vote?
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Dom, do you think there was relevance in going to Iowa?
The question asked by Bill Press.
Why'd you go?
Because crew, he made me.
I listen, I always love going on.
If you don't go, you don't know.
If you don't show up, you don't know what's going to happen, right?
So if something happens and you don't show up,
you're never going to get it.
So no, I always like going on the road.
I always like meeting people.
I always like hanging out with you and getting into it.
So there's always value to it.
How much value?
Well, that's perhaps a matter of debate.
But yeah, man, why would I, why are we going?
Because what I took away is we're all,
especially here in the Midwest, man.
But we're all just citizens of this country.
We're all want to engage, hopefully,
in respectful and righteous ways in our self-governance.
And we got to see a little bit of that yesterday.
My only for not throwing away my hat.
My only regret.
Couldn't get my hair cut.
I wouldn't take long.
Do you want me to do it for you?
I did it.
I did it myself.
Really, I couldn't tell.
Self-styled, a crudy bald.
Thank you for listening.
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