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Friends proving it's never personal, only politics.

And now here's your host, Dom and Crout.

Welcome to the Devil's Advocates Radio Show.

He Thursday, first date of Hanukkah edition, or as Dom would call it Friday Eve.

Friday Eve, good to see you, Crouty Fun, couple of days, man.

Nate, working the board.

Thank you, sir.

Our fair audience.

Happy.

Happy Friday Eve.

Dominic, here are a few of the compelling headlines, a few of the topics for this big

show.

Well, we've got Trump on trial, and he was in the courtroom again today, and he made comments.

So we've got a little bit of the Trump song, not from the courtroom, but outside the courtroom.

Also, Dom, big debate, question mark last night, the GOP undercard debate.

It happened.

It happened.

And there's some really backwondo, crazy stuff that went on during that debate last night.

So if you missed it, and I'll be honest, Dom and I were partying a little bit, you know,

back to back nights, because you know, you were in town.

We missed the debate.

We didn't see that.

We missed it.

Bernie.

Well, you know, we'll give you a little bit of the, let's just say leftovers today.

Oh, my.

Nothing like leftover.

I mean, these guys, they're, it's unbelievable.

And I'm glad I didn't get to see waste my time with it, but it's been interesting today,

you know, catching up, let's call it, you know, the highlights or the low lights as it

may be.

Dominic, where I want to start today, though, is unbeatable Tammy Baldwin has her next

victim.

Who is the Danny, California running against our Tammy Baldwin, um, Eric Hubby Lawrence

and during a reported Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Eric Hubby will challenge Democrat Tammy

Baldwin for Senate, the NRSC chair says, uh, that's the National Republic Senatorial

Committee chair, Steve Danes, he said, uh, he told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Wednesday

that wealthy Madison banking mogul will enter the race in the near future with the backing

from the Senate's EOP's Tom Kaptop campaign arm.

Hubby's going to get in the race, Danes, the Montana Republican said during a brief interview

outside the Senate's subway system, we're behind him.

Hubby.

Now, there's no quote specifically from Hubby.

He did not respond to the journal's inquiries, but according to Danes, it's on Tom.

I've known it's on.

I've reported right here on the greatest radio show ever with you.

It's on like Donkey Kong.

How do I know that?

How do you know that, Crudy?

Here, here is the, the little tell it's the sign out by the highway on 39 North, uh,

3990 North South.

Have you driven a wasaw recently or up towards Stevens Point, Clover area?

There is a sign.

I believe it's just going into Washera County.

It's a just north of like Westfield, but there's a Eric Hovey for US Senate sign.

It's been there for a freaking months.

It's been there since late summer.

I swear, but this ain't like a farmer homemade job.

This isn't someone trying to draft Hovey for US Senate.

This guy has had a senatorial campaign logo for months.

How do I know?

The sign's been sitting out by the highway for a freaking months.

Of course he's running.

I told you he's running, but he hasn't said it yet.

Crudy, is it a digital sign or is it just like a regular old fashioned sign?

Think like a printed vinyl banner sign out by the highway and it's relatively large.

I'd guess maybe six feet by eight feet, something like that.

Okay.

So not like a traditional billboard sign.

No, not a tradition.

That would definitely be a tell.

But this is, you know how at the end of the farmer's row, out by the highway, so many

of them have at least just a little bit of land to these campaigns or they'll put their

support for the campaigns.

Well, someone wanted to get out, you know, before the freeze them way out in front of the

freeze.

But whoever they hired out there by highway 3990 North South, they put the sign out

prematurely.

That sign's been out there for months.

Crudy Scott Mayer, a businessman from Franklin, Wisconsin, and former Milwaukee County

Sheriff, David and Clark junior, who has been in a public feud with the National Republicans

are also considering Senate runs against again, Tammy Baldwin, Rich for Common on Wednesday,

Mayer dismissed Danes remarks, quote, the NRSC does not elect people.

The people in the state elect the candidate.

Is that California or Wisconsin?

They're referencing it.

They are really immaterial to me.

He added of the NRSC saying the group would 100% back him if Hubdy doesn't get in the race.

It's the people of Wisconsin that elect the candidate and I've got enough support from

all the wealthy Wisconsin connections that are out there, out there that we're all aware

of that I run.

I will get plenty of support from the people of Wisconsin, which is more important to me

than people outside the state.

So he's got the backing of the rich Wisconsinites.

And perhaps the U lines across the border, right?

Is that what he's telling us?

Maybe, maybe.

Mayer labeled false a statement from Danes, made to the General Sentinel saying Mayer would

not run of Hubdy entered the race.

Mayer said he's met with Danes, but does not recall saying that.

I do know that none of us want the bloody primary in Wisconsin.

I can tell you that.

I want a bloody primary in Wisconsin, Crudy.

I'd be okay with it.

I'd love to, I'd love to hear their contrasting ideas and how they would move Wisconsin forward.

Well, they'd spend millions and millions of dollars, right?

And then they'll beat the snout out of each other.

Do you remember the wounded Tommy Thompson back in 2012?

I really did think that Tammy Baldwin was, was against an insurmountable candidate.

The guy had won, what, electionist governor for fricking time, something like that.

Well, he came through the, through the primary battered and bruised.

And Tammy held on effectively against him, killed your girl, Vookmer.

And I'm just wondering, hold me.

Are you the newest victim?

Laguna Beach Dan.

Concluding the peace of Milwaukee, General Sentinel Danes and National Republicans have their

sights fixed on Hubdy.

We're planning on seeing Eric Hubdy make some announcements here and then not too distant

future and he'll be the nominee.

We'll support Dominic in recent months.

Hold V sold off more than $4.3 million in stock, you know, diversifying liquidating just

in time.

Money, the multi millionaire could put towards the beginning of a Senate run, but he told

the journal Sentinel at the time, those transactions had nothing to do with politics.

And while there is no clear timeline of when Republicans might make announcements, Republicans

in the state have marked early 2024 as the likely date for declarations down time to put

up or shut up, right?

Mayor told the journal Sentinel last month, he was looking at January and February to make

his own decision.

Chair of David A. Clark Jr.

On the John Frederick show Wednesday suggested he would make an announcement as we get into

the new year early in the new year.

Yeah.

You do the voice.

And torches.

I'm an America.

I already have declined a journal Sentinel request for comment Wednesday evening, a source

close to hubby said he is, quote, continuing to talk with supporters and is looking forward

to spending time with family and friends over the holidays.

Yes, aren't we all.

Dominic here's more bald ones campaign decline to comment.

And the man said, Democrat issued a plea for donations Thursday referencing the news

that I'd be planned on entering the race.

A spokesman for the Democratic Party of Wisconsin.

And I did invite our good friend, Ben Wickler here today, late notice, and it is, it's the

first night of Hanukkah.

So apparently spending time with family, damn, but anyways, here is what the Democratic

Party spokesman said he was quick to label the potential, Republican Senate primary brutal,

brutal, damn is Mitch McConnell and the DC Republicans get behind a mega millionaire

california bake owner, another mega millionaire is teasing a run and a bag of sheriff is waiting

in the wings.

Quarantine Eric Volk, a rapid response director of the Democratic Party.

All of the Republicans lining up to run against him.

He bald one are out of touch with Wisconsin values.

And you did mention hovies, keep it or close to the best, um, bear two has been making

the rounds.

He told the journal Sentinel last month that he had meetings with big players and states,

including Republican mega donors, wait for it down, Dick and Liz Uline, there we go.

I'm doing all my appropriate due diligence.

You're going to talk to the rich people, right?

I'm doing all my appropriate due diligence that any business person with do mayor said

I've met with all all the appropriate people.

So Dick, Liz and the widow Hendrix, because I didn't get that meeting, Scott.

Uh, no, no, no, I got, hey, let me check, let me check, wait, no, no, nothing from

mayor.

Again, from Danes with the NRSC, right?

We are planning on seeing hudby make some announcement here in the not too distant future.

And he'll be the nominee.

We support it.

I think you said that, but I like to rub it in a little bit to the others, considering

a run.

Um, you got the establishment against you.

What do you think of this is interesting, though?

What do you think is more influential, more important, uh, the NRSC or, you know,

the widow Hendrix and the U lines money, oh, the monies.

Most important.

I mean, how they, they help Michaels.

When that race, that primary, that very important primary, but the question then becomes

what happens to the, the winner of the primary, right?

I mean, what was Tim Michaels position in the gubernatorial primary to beat Rebecca

Clayfish?

Oh, he was all in mega.

He was all in on abortion with no exceptions for rape or incest.

I mean, how do you win a Republican primary, not going full mega, going full balls to

the wall, crazy, go nuts, Tom, because that's what the base apparently wants from their

leadership.

I give you example, eh, Ron Johnson.

Oh, that's not forget, you know, the Wisconsinites, according to Michaels, we're just a bunch

of lazy people.

We got to get off our ass and work and all that COVID money and all that.

Well, it was a long time ago, but yeah, uh, but that was, that was you line money, right?

That's what you're saying.

Of course, he had millions of his own and apparently hooked.

Wish I had some of that money back.

Uh, my only point is a carpet bagger out of state candidate, you know, living in the

state of Wisconsin, 183 days a year for tax filing purposes and future candidates, uh,

candidacies.

Apparently, well, Tim Michaels was out of touch with the state of Wisconsin.

He lost or did he win or lose?

I guess he beat Rebecca Clayfish.

He brought Trump into insultor in her own backyard, never earned her endorsement, at least

not publicly, never saw a reconciliation meeting between the two candidates.

Oh, no, it's picking up my hands, no kissing of the cheeks.

And I would say there are probably some Clayfish supportive that stayed home.

Well, after this brutal primary on the Republican side, um, they're all going to stay home

and Tammy's going to hand them their lunches and their asses.

More devil's advocates.

Eric Hodevee.

Welcome to the party, Pell.

I don't know if you know the devil's advocates, but the show is kind of a bait deal.

And we're back from the four or 20 break.

Thank you for listening to the devil's advocates radio show.

You can always join us on the lines at eight four four nine six seven two seven eight

nine.

So a Californian, Eric Hodevee, who claims he's a Madisonian, but he lives in Laguna,

Beach, California.

Apparently he's gearing up to run for the US Senate here from the state of Wisconsin.

How do I know that the science been out by the highway for months?

I'm telling you, that was a hell of a tell Eric Hodevee that you're running.

But Dom, California's losing another question mark of their best and brightest.

Oh, no, we forgot to mention it yesterday on the big show.

And I should mention you can always be a part of the big show.

Join us eight four four nine six seven two seven eight nine.

But the former speaker, Kevin McCarthy, is he going back to spend more time with

his rich donors in California and Orange County, Dom?

I mean, isn't that where literally Eric Hodevee lives, Eric Hodevee lives in

Kevin McCarthy's district?

Does he not?

Oh, I was not aware of that.

That's interesting.

I'll look it up.

I'll look it up.

Let's see.

California, California, whatever.

But yes, I mean, McCarthy, what this walking away, what about your duty?

It's as interesting as well.

I mean, what what a fall.

I mean, it was Speaker of the House.

Of course, very tenuous deal to gain that leadership position had to cut a lot of

deals and that ended up coming back to bite him at the end.

So now he's hanging it up and going away, man, checking out after the first of

the year, barely knew you, Kevin.

Go cash those checks.

I assume eight four four nine six seven two seven eight nine.

But that is one less Republican in the house.

We'll get to that MTG has something to say about say about that.

Jack from Merrimack, you're up.

Happy Friday, Eve.

Jack, what do you got for us?

Hey, happy Friday.

If you guys do.

Yeah, well, there's this hot guy and it looks like

yes, another conference banker who's trying to fly his way into an

nomination in, in Wisconsin.

And what's there guys that a little while back, Michael,

somebody that tried to go to the store, yeah, Tim Michaels.

You're just a lazy memory to Wisconsinite.

That's your problem, Jack.

Anyway, the, it looks like this guy is, you know, hopefully Wisconsin residents

will be aware enough that where this guy is coming from.

This guy, if I recall correctly, thinking of lazy memory for Wisconsinite,

I recall correctly, he ran for a nomination in 2012 with it.

And I think one of his main planks on his platform was to get rid of

health care for about 30 million people, called repeal the 88.

I think that that's a wonderful thing.

A guy should run on that again, along with controlling women's rent medical

rights. He do a little good job on both of those.

Yes, that is sarcasm.

Thank you, Jack, for the explanation.

844-967-2789.

You know, I looked up the current district of Kevin McCarthy.

He's in California's 20th congressional district.

Here is why he does not represent Eric Hodeby, no ocean front in that district.

He's laying locked, think like Baker's field and then kind of scoots up the

Fresno, where Fresno states at.

And it includes Edwards Air Force base, but does not include any ocean front.

And you know, that's where Mr. Hodeby lives out by the Laguna Beach and the,

and the ocean front down the Hill reporting rep Marjorie Taylor Green off at a

grim outlook on the shrinking GOP majority after former speaker Kevin McCarthy

announced his plans to be resigned by the end of the month Wednesday.

Now in 2024, we will have a one seat majority in the House of Representatives

Green wrote, congratulations, freedom caucus for one and 105 reps who

expel our own for the other.

I can assure you, Republican voters didn't give us the majority to crash the

ship. Hopefully, no one dies.

She added, hopefully, hopefully, of course, referencing the House of Freedom

Caucus is supposed to remove McCarthy from his role early this year in the 105

reps who joined almost all the dams to expel George Santos.

Damn, so yeah, they're, they're, they're, they're a little bit of a

nutrition going on in the GOP House right now.

Dom one of the textures takes note of the fact, Hodeby rhymes with Michaels and Kelly,

right? Twice, two Ls and Kelly can't spell Kelly without two Ls.

Someone else asking, if my mic should be louder, I should always be the loudest host.

I think I should get some, well, some level issues, perhaps also the

Hill, after McCarthy steps down, Republicans will only will only be able to

afford three GOP defections to pass any party line legislation in addition,

rep build Johnson, they're Republican from Ohio, also plans to step down to the

first quarter of next year to become the president of Youngstown State

University. So isn't Patrick McKinney also retiring is at the, at the end of

his term in 24, he's not leaving early, running again, contemplate his

career as speaker pro temp.

So what, what's McCarthy's, you know, obviously, and some of the better, he's

mad, right? So he's mad as hell and he's not going to take it anymore.

And he is the fundra, right? He is a big fundraiser.

He makes it right. He does. And, and so not only not what, what you're going to

have mega Mike's going to be that guy now. I mean, he may be a lot of things

that my understanding, he's not the prolific fundraiser that McCarthy is.

So what? McCarthy's going to walk away. He's still got the role of Dex.

He's going to fuck what former Super PAC and go after those that tried that,

that cost him his job and make tons of money doing it. He'll be, you know, I mean,

why wouldn't you do that? He'll be your vessel of retribution. Yeah.

I mean, that's Trump's role. But, you know, Kevin McCarthy, maybe retribution

adjacent of their own, man, they're eating their own, the Republican parties and

disarray. No, this is about as well as they ever run near as I can tell them.

It has been quite some time since I saw a party, a functioning Republican party.

I mean, not for real. Do we have to go HW Bush days?

I mean, must I long for Dick Cheney? At least his daughter's got a conscience.

Although he might shoot me in the face.

I'm not going hunting with him or you. I've made that pledge. No, Cheney or dumb.

I've been working on it. Man, I've been working on it.

I can just feel it now back to the last, back to the last terrible man.

844 967 2789. So the last time there was a functioning Republican party in Congress,

I don't know, man, Newt, you're going back to Newt?

The contract with America. How do you mean?

Well, how they blow it though, that's full for them. How'd they blow it?

You remember how they blew it?

Because they were strong after they made the contract with America.

But how did the Newt Congress blow it?

Well, of course, they impeached the Democratic president.

Not for any legitimate reason to some people's assessment,

but for a sexual picadillo and then lying about it, right?

So what lessons could the current Congress learned from that Newt Congress?

Oh, no, they're going to impeach Joe Biden, right?

I hear they're moving the language forward with the Lackery.

Worked so well. Last time, crudey, why wouldn't they do it again?

A impeachment for you, a impeachment for you.

They just want to make it seem like it's just another day and everybody's doing it.

But of course, that's not the case. Perhaps we'll get there.

Come back more Devils and a big GOP debate last night.

Hope you didn't miss it.

Left over broccoli ain't the greatest.

I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for those meddling Devils advocates.

Welcome back to the Devils.

Advocates video show the Thursday that makes it Friday,

Eve Edition, Dom's looking at me quizzily.

You don't know this Disney to do you, Dom.

I'm using it to troll Ron DeSantis.

Just look at what happens if one wins the GOP undercard debate and nobody cares.

You'd have to ask Ron DeSantis apparently had a good night last night,

relative to the other Yahoo's on the stage.

Really?

They're down to the final four, Dom.

They've got Nikki Haley.

They've got Christie.

They've got Vivek Ramaswami and they've got Ron DeSantis.

And of course, the 800 pound orange elephant in the room is the fact that Trump's not on the stage.

He's up by like 40 points on DeSantis in Florida.

So that sets the stage.

And he was in court today.

I don't get there.

We'll get there.

No, I know, but how do you as candidates running against him?

You know what I'm saying?

How is this?

How is this not on the tip of your lips every time you talk?

Oh, that's right.

You're afraid of his followers.

You will hear some of the most outrageous statements of

Luke Spiddle asked kissing from the Vek Ramaswami and just a minute down,

but a little of the coverage here at the post in the fourth and final Republican debate poll of 2023.

Florida, Governor Ron DeSantis,

edged out former UN ambassador Nikki Haley is the candidate Republican debate watchers thought perform best.

That is a low bar.

Uh, former president Donald Trump once again declined to participate in the debate.

But as he can be, uh, as can be the case throughout the primary,

each of the candidates is still running far behind him.

The race for the GOP presidential nomination.

And with less than six weeks before the Iowa caucuses kick off the nomination contest.

There is little time for these candidates to close the gap.

So of the 538 Washington post,

Ipsos poll, a potential Republican primary caucus voters who watched Wednesday's debate.

And you need to sample and pretty much all of them down to get a fair sample size of the watchers of the debate.

They found that 30% thought DeSantis performed best.

23% chose Haley.

This is a turd in fortunes for Haley after the last debate.

Our poll found 34% like turd best.

And um, the VEK Ramaswamy performed worst according to 37% of viewers performed best according to just 16%.

And Chris Christie also offended many in the crowd by talking truth.

But that's a contrast to what VEK Ramaswamy did.

And I know you watched absolutely none of this last night.

Damn, I was hanging out with you and I know we weren't watching the debate.

No, we weren't.

So it's always better the second time around.

Here's your day old, warmed over broccoli of a GOP debate, not featuring Trump last night.

Just a few, just a few, I don't have them in front of me.

But let's start with the VEK Ramaswamy.

Haley was heaping praise on me when I wrote that book.

But now I worry I was warning about the woke industrial complex in this country as a warning.

Apparently she read it as a how to manual.

Oh, the woke industrial complex.

He's so clever that VEK and then he said this time about the January six.

And I got to admit my, my first reaction was belly laughter.

Like, is this freaking guy serious?

But I think he was serious, Nate played for the people of the VEK Ramaswamy GOP debate last night.

I think the real enemy is not Donald Trump.

It's not even Joe Biden.

It is the deep state that at least Donald Trump attempted to take on.

And if you want somebody who's going to speak truth to power, then vote for somebody who's going to speak the truth to you.

Why am I the only person on the stage at least who can say that January six now does look like it was an inside job?

That the government lied to us for 20 years about Saudi Arabia's involvement in 9-11.

That the great replacement theory is not some grand right wing conspiracy theory,

but a basic statement of the Democratic Party's platform that the 2020 election was indeed stolen by big tech.

That the 2016 election, the one that Trump won for sure was also one that was stolen from him by the national security establishment.

Then actually put up the Trump pressure collusion hopes that they knew was false.

There's a reason why I'm the only person on the stage who can say these things.

That's what it's going to take.

Not people who are looking as boots one time.

And now Monday morning quarterback came a criticizing when it's convenient.

That's quite a bit to unpack there.

Yes, you would you like to start?

Let's start with the January six inside job, Tom.

That's where job, that's it.

I started laughing allowed to myself when I first Nate kind of enough to pre play this for me,

didn't watch it in real time, but I was laughing momentarily.

Inside job January six inside job, you sound like, and I literally heard US Senator Ron Johnson today on an inferior down the dial,

righty whitey product.

And effectively, Ron is parroting this very thought today is telling people today.

Well, you know, they're they're going after the January sixers.

They're going after them.

They're swatting them.

They're chasing them.

They're using FBI resources to go chase down these, what, patriots, Tom,

these tourists that maybe, maybe stepped outside the bio, the velvet ropes.

I mean, I cannot believe that this is a sentiment being expressed not just by a presidential

candidate, but by a US Senator within 24 hours.

And let's not forget the speaker of the house when referencing releasing the tapes and from January six,

how they had to, you know, blur out some of the people's faces, because he didn't want them to be what

prosecuted, called by the DOJ and prosecuted for their illegal acts.

So literally doing a cover up, that's the speaker.

Is that an obstruction of justice that he's describing?

Yeah, he has those tapes.

That's what I don't understand.

I mean, I don't believe for a minute that those all unblurred, unredacted, whatever tapes are not in

in the hands of those who need them.

So, you know, this is all pandering to, to a base.

So I'm just, I'm just not clear on on the conspiracy, though, because there's, you know,

lots of people convicted, people admitted, hey, yeah, I did that.

Some, some were convicted.

They're, they're not the, the fetis, right?

They're not the federalies.

They're not the ones that are, whether they're the victims.

So someone instigated them, someone riled them up, but it wasn't Trump.

It was what?

Feds within the proud boys.

You know, I'm saying, I'm not, I'm not clear what the theory is because there was some

riling up that day that was Donald Trump.

And he's going to be on trial for that.

What about the great replacement theory?

Oh, my God.

Being espoused and pushed back by Vivek Ramaswami says, in fact, that is the platform of the

democratic, although I'm sure he just said, Democrat party, something of that matter.

But the great replacement theory is what?

That we're letting non-whites in to dilute the value of the white vote.

And we know the Tucker Carlson used to peddle this crap quite a bit on the Foxy news,

and we know it has its, what, what do you say, racist underpinnings that this is the same sort

of language that the Nazis used in my wrong.

Tell me I'm wrong about this because I'll correct the record down, but that's my understanding of

the great replacement theory and the man who, I don't know if he noticed when he looked in the

mirror most recently, but you ain't Caucasian.

You don't fit the mold.

So are you part of the problem, Vivek Ramaswami?

Are you self-loathing in this great replacement theory?

You're part of the problem.

If you believe the theory, sure.

And if he doesn't believe the theory, why are you talking about it?

Well, of course, to ram up the base, but then wouldn't you want?

If this is the case, Republicans and Vivek Ramaswami bring in other Vivek Ramaswamis, right?

I mean, it's not assuming that everybody who comes into this country is going to be a Democrat,

obviously, right?

So, I mean, but let's be, this is specifically a racist philosophy, a racist theory.

And it certainly is not in any of the platform of the Democratic Party.

What are you talking about?

He has a little bit more here, Vivek, getting on Haley, Nikki Haley, calling her corrupt.

I'll play a cut number two if you would please, Nate.

After you left the UN, you became a military contractor.

You actually started joining service on the board of Boeing,

whose back you scratched for a very long time.

And then gave foreign multinational speeches like Hillary Clinton is.

And now you're a multi-millionaire.

That math does not add up.

It adds up to the fact that you are corrupt.

Says the wannabe billionaire.

Because his only claim to fame is Vivek Ramaswami is rich.

You know, he built, he built important stuff in his own heart as well.

And here's some cut.

Vivek, he gets booed.

Let's hear it, Nate, cut three.

The only person more fascist than the Biden regime now is Nikki Haley,

who thinks the government should identify every one of those individuals.

Boo, boo this man.

There were some others on the stage.

Let's get the low lights.

Chris Christie, Trump a dictator.

We heard that sound from Trump yesterday.

Let's hear what Christie had to say about a cut five.

Do I think he was kidding?

When he said he was a dictator,

all you have to do is look at the history.

And that's why failing to speak out against him,

making excuses for him,

pretending that somehow he's a victim.

Empowers him.

Empowers him.

One more from Chris Christie, Trump is the issue, cut six.

The fact of the matter is he is unfit to be president.

And there is no bigger issue in this race, Megan than Donald Trump and those numbers prove it.

Well, at least he's being consistent in going after Donald Trump.

But he came out of that debate as the second lowest perceived participant

behind only the aforementioned Vivek Ramaswami.

Tough day, tough day.

He says he's taken it to the convention.

We'll see.

We have one cut from Nikki Haley.

Let's play cut number seven.

Well, I don't think that you have a straight up Muslim ban.

As much as you look at the countries that have terrorist activity that want to hurt Americans,

you do, you can ban those people from those countries.

That's the way we should look at it,

is which countries are threat to us?

A selected Muslim ban.

You know, just got to be a little more selective about which Muslims we banned.

What was the religion primarily of the January six insurrectionists when they

beat up all those cops and injured all those folks and ransacked the Capitol?

Were they primarily Muslims?

I don't think so.

Don't know, but I don't think so.

Praise be to God.

844-967-2789.

I know you're dying to get to the New York Trump trial, but

you're overall in Prussian.

I mean, after the fact,

have they moved the needle?

No, come on, man.

No, they haven't.

Not with that in the report that I've seen today.

No, no, no, no.

They're still way, way, way behind.

So, you know, if Donald Trump doesn't go

if there's more debates next year and Donald Trump doesn't on the stage,

hell, there's run, they're running out of time.

And, you know, what, we got six weeks to Iowa crudey.

And this is the last debate between then and now.

So they have their last debate between now and the end of the year.

Theoretically, there could still be an Iowa debate, but

if Trump won't participate, why bother?

Why bother?

I'd like to see, and it takes a little while, the number is like,

who, how many people watched this debate last night?

Under five million.

Under five million.

You take the callers, and I'll work on the overall ratings.

All right, let's do that eight, four, four, nine, six, seven, two, seven, eight, nine.

Mark, from the sack, you got about 60 seconds, man.

What do you got for us?

Yeah, thanks, guys.

And I think Viva gets confused because I think he thinks he is one of the high caste

descendants of India and that he, so that qualifies him to, you know,

make a claim that he's not part of the,

the lesser races that he likes to, if he was just

talking about for this whole replacement theory,

that it's just disgusting.

It is, it's terrible.

I was like, hey, man, you resemble that remark.

Thanks for the call, Mark, a headline over at the Ross story.

Let's go, Neil Nazi, delighted after GOP candidates promotes favorite conspiracy theory.

Yeah, that's what we're talking to.

Approximately four million people watched the fourth Republican presidential debate

on the news nation and the CW.

I didn't know it was on the CW.

But the other night when they had the red state, blue state debate, the Hannity debate

on Foxy, well, new some dissentist drew over five billion.

More people watch the non-presidential debate than the Republican presidential debate last night.

But, you know, not everyone's got news nation on their cable dials.

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Dominic, the headline you referenced in my favorite source, the raw story.

Let's go!

Neonazzi delighted after GOP candidate promotes favorite conspiracy theory.

And of course, we played the Vivek Ramaswamy sound.

The question becomes which one is his favorite conspiracy theory?

Because you named quite a few, didn't you?

You sure did.

Kind of like them all.

Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy on Wednesday night

promoted a conspiracy theory, beloved by members of the Neonazzi movement.

I think I know which one.

And now, vice reports that many Neonazzi served Ramaswamy's dog whistles.

Loud and clear.

Stand back and stand by, right?

In particular, the publication zeroes in on the reaction of white supremacist influencer,

Nick Fuentes, who appeared happily astonished when Ramaswamy backed

the great replacement conspiracy theory, the Jewish financiers and the democratic party

are plotting to replace white Americans with immigrants.

And again, Dom, I would point out, the Vivek Ramaswamy is an immigrant, or at least the child of

immigrants. Fuentes appeared visibly shocked that Ramaswamy went so far as a little shocked

myself. He watched open mouth as Ramaswamy continued to boost wild conspiracies.

Let's go.

Evisibly delighted Fuentes told his thousands of viewers.

Fuentes was far from alone.

The vice report documented other instances of white supremacist and QAnon conspiracy theorist,

excited to hear Ramaswamy validate them before a mass audience.

Oh, 4.1 million.

When someone like Ramaswamy promotes great replacement in other conspiracy theories,

he's platforming a violent and paranoid ideology to a mainstream audience.

It's clear that he speaks the language of conspiracy theory believers,

anti-Semites and extremists. Many of these same people have embraced his candidacy,

according to Mike Rothschild, a researcher on conspiracy theories and extremism.

Oh, he was a little extreme, huh?

A little bit. He'll also reporting ban Jones. He's a CNN analyst these days.

In a panel discussion after the fourth GOP primary debate, denounced Ramaswamy's embrace

of conspiracy theories and warned, that guy is dangerous. That's dangerous.

And I got to tell you, man, when you listen to that clip, this just rolls off his tongue.

I mean, the guy just, you know, it just comes out like, like, so slick and smooth and slippery.

And he just says all these things right in a row. It's like, wait, what, what, what, what?

Back to Van Jones and the smug condescending way that he just spews this poison out.

It's very, very dangerous because he won't stop Trump.

What he's going to outlive Trump by about 50 years. You're watching the rise of an American

demagogue that is very, that is a very, very despicable person. And I literally, I was shaking,

listening to him, talk because a lot of people don't know. This is one step away from Nazi

propaganda coming out of his mouth. When those people are saying Jews will not replace us,

Jews will not replace us. That slogan sits on top of a very sick and twisted view that if you

bring enough people of color here, we're so deficient. We are so stupid. We're so unwanted

that we will be zombies to fill out the ranks for some democratic party agenda that Jewish people

are manipulating and driving forward. He said explaining the conspiracy theory. That leads to violence.

That puts at risk Jewish people. That puts at risk people of color. It's wrong. It's wrong.

Down is wrong. For those that just jumped in the car, joining us a little bit late,

where were you? I should have quit work a little bit early. But B, let's play it again.

Vivek Ramaswamy at the GOP debate last night said some pretty incredible things. And I don't mean

that in a positive sort of way. The great replacement theory, Nate, if you're able, let's replay the

quoting question, just in case you missed it the first time. I think the real enemy is not Donald

Trump. It's not even Joe Biden. It is the deep state that at least Donald Trump attempted to take

on. And if you want somebody who's going to speak truth to power, then vote for somebody who's

going to speak the truth to you. Why am I the only person on the stage at least who can say

that January 6th now does look like it was an inside job? That the government lied to us for 20

years about Saudi Arabia's involvement in 9-11. That the great replacement theory is not some

grand right wing conspiracy theory, but a basic statement of the democratic party's platform.

Boom, there it was. There it was. And then he went on to throw a few more in for good measure.

But January 6th was an inside job. 9-11. And you heard the reaction from the crowd.

That that true cheers from the debate crowd in Tuscaloosa, Alabama last night. And then he pivoted,

right? And oh, yeah. The Saudis were involved in 9-11. Well, there's a kernel of truth there. We

know a lot of the participants were Saudi Arabian. But then he took it in a different direction.

The great replacement theory and validated the great replacement theory and said, yes,

it exists. In fact, it's the platform of the democratic party. And that's what I found troubling.

And no irony. I mean, you know, lost here, the vex Ramaswami, you are, if you say this is

happening, you are that person. You know what I'm saying? Are you kidding me? Did you come here

as some grand plan orchestrated by the Jews to fill out the ranks of the democratic party,

the vex Ramaswami? Is that what you did? Because I highly doubt that's the case. So what is it

about your experience versus everybody else's experience that gives you this wisdom, this insight,

this knowledge that this replacement theory exists and it's part of the democratic party. But what

not for you though, right? Not for you. You're, you're too above that. You're too good for that.

Wasn't you? It's, it's everybody else. And you think, you think the Republican, the hardcore

Nazi voters are going to vote for you? Sir, 844-967-2789. It is just beyond the pale. I mean,

but what do we expect? Look, it's what's happening to the Republican party's leader,

the guy who's not on the stage was in court today again. Now, he doesn't, didn't give testimony.

Apparently, planning to give testimony, what next week, Monday, and then the prosecutors will

have a chance to rebut. But when you have the, the guy who all these folks on the stage are behind

by 20 to 40 points, and that guy is in court for a $250 million fraud, civil case that's already

been found to be. Yeah, he did it. Now it's about how much is he going to pay? Let alone all the

other things that this guy is facing. Are you surprised that one of the presidential nominees

will be talking about great replacement theory? I'm not. You know, one of the listers keeps

texting me in real time, so I looked it up. The truth behind the Indian extremist anti-Muslim

great replacement theory, the sub-hadbine at the Guardian Hindu nationalist fears. A demographic

erasure by Muslims have been stoked by supremacists for years. The texture says, you know,

it's actually the Hindus. This has just been brought to the attention of the white nationalists

here in America, but it's not a new concept. More devil's advocates, nothing new under this

world except great radio right here.