Warning, you're about to listen to the greatest radio show ever, and due to contractual obligations
and to shield our airwaves and corporate licensees from any semblance of liability, responsibility
and gullibility, we must tell you the views represented on this show are not necessarily
those of this station or its management.
This radio show contains differing points of view on current political topics, and due
to the nature of its contents, it should be heard by everyone.
Thank you for listening.
Now live from the Civic Media Studios in Madison, Wisconsin, where the political
party is just beginning, welcome to the Devil's Advocates Radio Show.
Friends proving it's never personal, only politics.
And now, here's your host, Dom and Crute.
Welcome back to the Devil's Advocates Radio Show, the Monday edition, our happy hour,
always happiest when you participate at 844-967-2789, Dom, I hope the voting has not
closed yet.
Time, person of the year will be awarded on Wednesday, they're building up to it.
And sadly, it's just a, it's even an honor to be considered, thank you, Mike.
I don't see our name on the list, we're not on the short list, Dom, who do you think
is time's person of the year?
Who do you think should be?
Dom and Crute's person of the year, Dom, who should be the person of the year?
You can't nominate and vote for yourself, and lift, I mean, I know you'd like to introduce
myself.
Easy over there, Brian Burgundy, you know, let's be serious for a half a moment.
Who would we think the most influential, most important, most newsworthy person of the
year?
I mean, is that, what are the, okay, let's, you're putting down some
criteria?
What is, what is time magazines criteria?
You know what I'm saying, I mean, so, I mean, the most influential, I mean, or the most
famous or most infamous, you know what I mean, I guess it depends on what, what we value
as, as person of the year, how you, how you gauge that, let me, let me, let me give you
some historical context, because you're not walking unless, until you know history, Dom,
the annual honor began in 1927, when Charles Limberg, received the distinction following
his solo nonstop played across the Atlantic Ocean, since then, people like Gandhi, Martin
Luther King, Jr., Nelson Mandela, Pope Francis, and climate activist Greta Thurdenberg, have
received the honor, along with several world leaders, and every president, since frankly
Delano Roosevelt, accepting Gerald Ford.
Now Trump was, time's person of the year, was he, I mean, I know he's got that picture
in Mar-a-Lago where he, he put up the fake cover, but I'm not sure, was he ever time's
person of the year?
I, you know, don't follow the time's person of the year, but no, I don't think Trump
was.
Well, it's, why would he put up the fake ones in his golf course if you were actually
the person of the year?
Well, he did win the presidency here, at least he became the president.
Depending on your point of view, Dom, the magazine, talking about time, is also swerved
in the past, and awarded concepts, like the silence breakers, who started the MeToo
movement, and you, you, which recognized the contributions made to the internet.
You, you are nominated, Dom, the daily news, chose the 2006, you selection, is one of
times most controversial, yeah, I'd say, they put like a reflective thing up, right?
Like on the cover of time, there was like a reflective thing, sort of a mirror like substance.
So the big, the most he is, is in the other, like you, his office, and he looks at time
in person of the year, and it's a mirror, so whoever's looking at it, you are the person
of the year.
But no, Trump, Trump, no, how about Bonnie Willis?
I like Bonnie Willis.
Oh, well, sort of kind of.
She made the list, Dom, and I could see, gave her like a ugly sweater, and then like
hanging out in front of you, you know, with the reflective sheen on the front.
Hollywood strikers, members of the WGA and SAG Aftra, up in the TV and film during the
lengthy stripes, strikes, which aim to change the entertainment industry's future.
The writers have already signed their new contract, while actors and studios have a tentative
agreement in place.
So they're on the short list.
Oh, I got up.
That's the case.
Then how about you, a W president, Sean Fane?
I will fight you.
I mean, talk about literally, well, that was, that was a different guy.
I mean, the teamsters guy, right?
Yeah, right.
But look at what they've done.
I mean, they want to strike, they impacted the business, they got their employees paid,
and they lifted up the entire sector, all of a sudden Toyota and Tesla are starting
to pay a little more.
They lead the star that came to Lambo Field last night, and I don't mean Simone Biles.
Taylor Swift, you know, there are a lot of Swifties in town last night, whether she made
headlines for record-breaking errors to her, which is becoming a billionaire, or for
a romance with Kansas City Chief Star Travis Kelsey, 2023 was arguably the year of Taylor
Swift.
That would argue for that, man.
She's rolling.
Jeezing, jeezing, you say it.
Jeezing Ping.
Chinese president, Jeezing Ping, is one of the most influential figures in the world,
and has been a contender for a person of the year in the past.
What's it got to do with Fade Taiwan?
Did they make it on the cover of a magazine time?
What about the Sam Ultman guy, the AI guy?
He's on the list as well.
Talking about a guy who's got a lot of power down at the office, didn't they push him
out?
Didn't they board a director's, push this guy out, and like the whole company quit and
said, if he's gone, we're gone.
And then suddenly, like three days later, he's the CEO again.
I wish I had that sort of loyalty.
And here when artificial intelligence ran its way into the mainstream, CEO Sam Ultman
is a person who will dictate how AI changes the tech industry.
What about Barbie?
You're a Barbie girl, then?
I haven't seen the movie yet.
Barbie, the iconic doll was the subject of one of the highest grossing shelves of the
year, with the theater going experience becoming a full-on, pink, tinge phenomenon.
It's like when the devil's advocates go out in public.
I don't work pink.
And the Trump prosecutors, I would throw funny billies in it.
All right, all right.
I'll take it.
I'll take it.
Former president, Donald Trump, is running for reelection while facing almost 100 charges
in four separate, unprecedented cases in New York, Georgia, Florida, and DC, Georgia,
funny Willis, Georgia.
Perhaps the most courageous of all the prosecutors seeking to bring Trump to justice.
Let's just say, and King Charles, the third, uh, uh, Vladimir Putin, absolutely not.
What about federal reserve chairman Jerome Powell, them?
He's on the list.
What do you do?
Wrecked mortgage rates?
Well, I mean, he's trying to give us a soft landing, man.
You know, I mean, I, I don't want to vote on that quite yet.
We still got a ways to go.
We'll see how all that pans out.
But what about like, come on, George Santos.
Let's look at some folks that have like really, you know, shifted the.
Some colorful, I mean, talk about fabulous.
This guy broke all the rules and all the wrong slash right ways, man.
Well, okay.
So maybe he should be on TLC, but George Santos really, his whole claim to fame is dishonoring
the Congress, stealing from people and lying.
Is this something we aspire to these days, Tom?
Not around here.
I would.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Also on this list is Putin.
I mean, it seems like the bar is pretty, you know, low and the, the, the, the influence
could be up in the air, man.
Putin invaded a foreign country.
What country is George Santos invaded?
My point being, of course, Santos did bad things.
Putin did bad things.
Now, Putin did more bad things, but Santos did bad things.
So if, if, if to the degree that, that Putin did all these terrible things and he's nominated
potentially for person of the year, well, certainly, George Santos should at least have
a honorable mention.
Can't believe you're bringing George Santos to this conversation right now, 844-967-2789.
You embarrass yourself and the panel.
You're bringing Barbie to it, man.
Who do you talking about?
He's got more structural integrity than George Santos ever did.
He's a fictional character.
So is he?
Dynamo Dave, how you doing, man?
Hey, Dave.
Hey, how's it going?
Good.
What?
Happy Monday.
Two things.
You know, it seems to be engaged in weapons of mass distraction, one being the whole Hunter
Biden thing.
But do you think that George Santos was actually kind of some sort of weird plant that they
got in Congress to distract everybody from Trump's stuff because he certainly did.
He had had the headlines over and over for various times.
I think he was a blown wolf, manchurian candidate.
He was following his own heart and passions, Dynamo Dave.
He's eating his own past, Dave.
But he's following the example of Lauren Bober and Marjorie Taylor Greene and all the
outrage machines of the right.
It so clearly works and they're not necessarily popular politicians.
But once they get in, oh, it makes them famous.
They get plenty of play on Fox News.
Hell his last effect, official act as Congressman George Santos going on Fox News, Dynamo Dave.
No kid.
There you go.
Another weapon of mass distraction, Bulbert and that other woman.
Hey, well, I'm not a question, you know, you mentioned last winter that that buzzing station
up.
I believe the ass on Wisconsin was going to flip over to Perigas and talk once the transmitter
got beefed up or whatever.
1260 AM out of the Amory points do North from Amory, Wisconsin towards Duluth, Minnesota.
That would be one of the potential signals 1260 AM.
And then during the daytime, Dynamo Dave, 910 AM WBZH out of Hayward, Wisconsin, the buzz
of the North, man, might be buzzing you all the way to Duluth.
But if it doesn't work out as such 910 AM or the 1260 AM, then, you know, call the engineering
squad because, you know, I just work here, man.
But we would hope that the circles on the maps suggest that they would cast as far as
as Duluth, Minnesota.
Great.
Thank you for that info.
Yeah, man.
I'm full of info and all kinds of stuff, Dave.
Man of the year.
Thanks for the call, Dave.
844-967-2789.
We got some colors holding.
Be patient.
Want to give you ample time to throw up, perhaps you're a person of the year.
George Santos.
I mean, why not George Santos or the devil's advocates?
I mean, or the audience of the devil's advocates.
I know.
All of you are the person of the year.
If you call us.
But now we've got to find gas.
Joe Perisi, perhaps he's a nominee for times person of the year, outgoing Dean County
Executive.
He is laid down the law in regards to Twitter usage by county government.
Of course, the rights lose in their mind.
They're claiming this is a attack on free speech.
And I may have over-conflated the Dean County Airport has not yet deleted their account.
They've just stopped utilizing the account.
Why?
We'll ask Dean County Executive Joe Perisi next.
More.
Devil's Advocates.
Happy Monday.
Happy year.
Happy hour.
The devil's advocates, so relevant, they have one foot in tomorrow.
And welcome back to the Devil's Advocates radio show.
You can always listen to the Devil's Advocates wherever you go on the free civic media app
search for the station, hit the call or text buttons, interact with the show, look
for it on your Google Play or App Store.
Dominic, we welcome back.
Find guest right now.
Live via phone.
He is my county executive, Dean County Executive Joe Perisi outgoing.
Joe, welcome back to the devil's.
Hey, Joe.
How you doing?
Good to hear from you.
Hi there, Don.
Excellent, sir.
Joe, let me ask you.
You've made a little news.
You have declared what in regard to the Twitter.
How known is the acts and the day in County municipal accounts?
Joe, have you banned Twitter?
Well, we're no longer going to be using Twitter.
I think it's probably the same as banning Twitter, sir.
Does that mean first and foremost, I over conflated.
I said the airports deleting their account.
No one had to delete their account, right?
Their historical tweets can remain in perpetuity, but the current tweeting must cease starting
when, Joe.
Yeah, I mean, we'll archive all the information.
But as of January 1st, Dean County will no longer be, Dean County agencies will no longer
be using X slash Twitter, moving forward.
And Joe, begs the question.
Why?
Well, you know, it's probably fairly obvious to a lot of people.
I mean, there's, it's on a number of levels, right?
I mean, we've certainly seen Twitter slash X become a platform that is more and more just
a concentration and amplification of hate and hate speech and much negativity.
And that's something that really reflects the values of most of Dean County.
And not something that I feel is necessarily appropriate for County government to be using
as a platform, you know, anyone who wants can obviously use X slash Twitter.
But, you know, when you have a platform like that that has so many negatives, you know,
associated with it, I don't know that we need to be associated with it or we need to be
driving traffic to it, moving forward.
After listening to the Devils Advocates, Joe Parisi, Dean County executive.
So Joe, I mean, I get it, certainly it's gone through with some changes here of late.
But, you know, one of the nice things about it is you sign up for it, you can, you know,
get the tweets, you can get the updates from the County, are there other platforms that
you're going to emphasize or and is there a formula that you'll use to determine whether
or not you're going to use, you know, some of these other platforms out there, are you
still on Facebook?
Yeah, folks.
Yeah, folks to use Facebook and Instagram and platforms like that, there's, there are
a lot of ways to get information in this day and age.
I mean, obviously if anything, sometimes there are too many sources of information coming
at you.
And what it has to do with updates, certainly like in an emergency situation, we have a
verse 911, people can sign up for alerts, we have the news media, there are lots of ways
of getting information out.
So when we look at when we're going to, you know, whether it's a good idea to continue
using something like this, I mean, backing up, first of all, you know, social media just
kind of happened to all of us, right?
It wasn't this big conscious decision that this platform is going to exist, this is what
it's going to look like.
We all just have been going along with it, you know, since the technology and the platforms
have evolved.
And we have a responsibility to look at the subject in its entirety.
And when we look at platforms like X-Lash Twitter and what goes on there and the messages
they send, at the same time that we're dealing with issues, you know, for example, of dealing
with mental health in the community, with young people, and we see the negative impacts
that social media in general and certainly platforms like this can have on people.
I think it's a good idea for us just to all pause and take a deep breath and maybe start
taking a little more conscious approach to how we use these different platforms.
In that regard, but I've seen some headlines that have delved into it, but Instagram has
been criticized for, you know, having a negative effect on children's mental health.
Of course, TikTok out there as well.
What would have to happen or what's the criteria to determine whether an Instagram will remain
or is that something that would be potentially, are you on Instagram?
I guess it would be the first question.
I'm not personally, but the county agency.
Oh, yeah.
You know, yeah, yeah.
So, well, I think these are all good questions.
You know, I think we need to, as I said, social media just kind of happened to us.
It wasn't really answered into consciously.
And we're only beginning to understand the impacts, you know, many of them very negative,
you know, from, you know, bullying that goes on across all platforms to hate that gets spread
to misinformation and really to a general sense of a general lack of civility, right?
I mean, it seems like we're in a place in this current time in the world, not just here
and at this in the States, but across the world where people don't talk anymore.
People don't work things out.
People just scream at each other and, you know, platforms like like X-Lash Twitter really
amplify that type of hate.
I think it's an important, I think it's important for us to step back and look at this and say,
you know, what kind of world we want, especially when we're looking at the impacts on young people
who are growing up with this being really the only reality they've ever known, the detrimental
impacts.
So, you know, I certainly don't claim to have all the answers, but I do think that we've
headed into this rather unconsciously and we're starting to see a lot of negative impacts.
And it's time that, you know, like I said, everyone listening, everyone, you know, on
the planet has the option of remaining on X-Lash Twitter if they want to, but in the case
of county government, I just don't think that the means justifies the ends when it comes
down to the cost benefit of using the platform.
Our fine guest, Joe Parisi, Dean County Executive, well, Joe, you know, some people say, and
I mean, primarily conservatives that would attack you for this new stance, they say the
Joe Parisi is against free speech, Joe, how would you defend yourself against that charge?
Well, people can talk all they want.
I'm also, you know, the people saying that are probably like myself free market capitalists
and I can choose to use a project, a product and choose not to use a product, but, you
know, I think equating us using, you know, Twitter with, you know, being pro or anti free
speech, I just, I don't see the connection.
Joe, does this end with your rainless county executive or is this some sort of implementation
that would affect future administrations, if you will?
I hope it doesn't end.
I mean, you know, any political decision can be turned around by anyone who chooses
but, you know, I think it's, I think it's a good policy to get off of it.
I think a lot of people including myself have been thinking about it for a long time and
considering it and, you know, we'll see, I mean, like I said, I can't control what I can't
control once I'm no longer county executive.
So, you know, if you want to run for county executive, here's your opening.
You got your interview.
I got one problem.
Go ahead.
What should people look to then if people want to find out information specifically, I mean,
on a social media platform, what was your recommend people get to?
Well, people are using a lot of departments are using Instagram, Facebook.
We have county websites for all agencies and departments with a lot of information.
If they want emergency information, they can sign up for text alerts and that sort of
thing.
So, a lot of places out there, listen to your local radio stations, your local news channels.
Yeah.
You have to wait to get news out there.
What about Chad Vader?
Joe, what about Chad Vader?
Well, he still retain his Twitter ex account.
That's a really good question.
He's an independently elected official, so you don't have to ask him.
Dean County executive Joe Parisi, thanks for making a little time for the devil's advocates.
This fine Monday.
I was good.
I was good to talk to you guys.
Thank you.
What?
Folks, we are the devil's advocates.
Folk Lions open.
Want to hear from you.
Attack on free speech or just Chad Vader.
844-967-2789.
I don't know if you know the devil's advocates, but the show is kind of a fake date.
Come back to the devil's advocates radio show the Monday happier, happy hour.
I was happy with my county executive Joe Parisi comes around, but the sudden shut off
of the Twitter accounts leaves Chad Vader and the lurch, I would guess them.
He's a good, good guy, Chad Vader, better than the brother.
You know, he's like the good devil, like me either.
Yeah, you know you.
And I should probably know, but who's Chad Vader?
Chad Vader helped us get out the vote here in Dane County during the pandemic.
You know, sort of a clever character.
Chad Vader, Darth's brother, Scott McDonnell down at the Dane County, the voting office,
the clerk's office.
Okay.
They did some clever, fun stuff.
And now my county executive and his humorless attempts to stifle free speech, I don't think
that's what it is.
He's ban Chad Vader's account on both Twitter and only fans.
Eight for four.
Not only fans, nine six, seven, two, seven, eight, nine, Sean from walka show.
Welcome Sean.
What do you got for us?
Hi, Sean.
Hey, guys.
I'm going.
I love your show, by the way.
Hey, I'm just one of the talk about the guy that called about moving down the Texas.
You know, I was born and raised in Texas and I hear it all the time, like going to
Texas, home of the conservative and everything else.
I just want to remind the calling audience before you let your children move down there,
just you're escaping liberalism or whatever it is, one of escape from Wisconsin, right?
We love Wisconsin.
We cut wood side to get out of Texas that most of your farming communities are actually
just repackaged liberalism.
It's people a long time ago used to vote Democrat, always voted Democrat.
And when people in the working class started shifting towards the Republican ticket more
and more frequently, all these guys did is kind of ticked off and left over and decouple
call themselves Republican or reapply to a new group versus Democrat group.
They didn't really change in policy or anything else.
So when the colors are up there talking about Senator kids down the Texas to produce a
better flag or people all in honor to flag, I've lived in liberal land.
I've lived in conservative land and there ain't no difference.
And these people still honor to flag, but that's not reason to move your family out of
the state and everything else like that.
If you disagree with the policy, educate yourself and learn how to fight the issues that
you are passionate about, but don't go out there and sit there and act like Texas is
the answer to everything.
The only difference in Texas is I can go by a gun at every on drug store.
That's it.
Sean, our friend CG, I think, you know, much like the example of many of the immigrants
that come to this country would help move his family nearly across the country for an
opportunity, just a little bit more, right?
I mean, don't we all want that for our family?
Isn't that part of the American dream?
So when he expresses it, when he's saying God bless Texas, all he's saying is there's
opportunity there for my family.
But if he was a Mexican coming up in a caravan, he would resent himself for that very
same notion.
Yes, that's spot on.
You know, you hear about like all these the war taking place with the border and everything
else like that in the state of Texas, but no one ever gives any publicity about the
immigrants coming across the water and leaving saints at the cabin ranches who are leaving
water out and food out for the immigrants coming across the border, right?
I mean, this happens more frequently than needing an army sitting up there at the border.
Yes.
I mean, these people are not evil people, right?
You know, but they're also talking about like Texas is this great place, it's a servicism,
but I just want to remind people that it's still liberalism and every form of definition,
it's just they have different beliefs and religion, faith and gun ownership.
But when it comes down to taxes and policy, there is no difference.
Well, Sean, one distinction I would like to draw is the power grid entirely on Greg
Abbott and the Republican party down there.
They have their own unique way of doing it.
Yeah, great call.
Sean, appreciate it.
I mean, thanks for listening.
844-967-2789.
Let's sneak in a few more.
Great calls.
Or Nick for Madison.
We'll see how you do, Nick.
How you been, buddy?
Welcome.
Happy holidays.
Yeah, you got me two days in a row and I can see the road now, so that's nice, but yeah,
two things.
First, the champion thing, you ever see that YouTube series on that?
Yeah, very clever stuff.
Yeah.
Okay, cool, yeah.
But yeah, I don't even say about the whole Twitter thing.
I mean, I'm not using it anymore.
There's, I mean, I can't see how it's, you know, it's not like he's saying employees
can't use it on their own.
Just, uh, and there's so much social media out there that we honestly don't care.
I just don't get, I just don't get what the fuss is about.
I don't really think it's a big deal.
I don't care.
They think of, you know, some affront to free speech.
What's your take on that criticism?
You know, because it's a criticism of Elon Musk, really, Nick.
It's really about Elon Musk and his embrace of anti-Semitism.
I know.
I got, I got that.
And, um, but all he's doing is just not putting a county business on there.
So, again, he's not saying that employees can't use it.
Can't say what other wanted it, no matter how file.
Uh, but it's not getting any of those grids.
It's not stopping anyone from getting county, county, county issues.
So, uh, I just don't see the free speech violation at all.
Well, you seem way too reasonable to be a conservative friend, Nick.
Where, where does this reasonableness come from?
You must live in Dane County.
I've always been a reasonable conservative.
That's one thing my friends who know I'm certain today, I'll call me that.
Well, all my friends here are super progressive, okay?
And I like it that way.
Well, that's what they call you as far as you know.
Appreciate your caller, Nick.
Thanks, Nick.
Appreciate it.
844-967-2789.
I want to keep getting to the caller, so don't, don't, not call.
Don, I want to antagonize you just for a moment.
You're favorite righty conservative aggregator.
Breitbart under attack from Trump.
What do you do?
Drudge.
Drudge, my bad.
Yes, yes.
Breitbart was a banan, right?
But drudge, Matt, drudge is your guy, the guy with the hat.
Yeah, so apparently, uh, Donald Trump, not very happy with drudge these days.
Uh, let's see what he has to say.
I found it actually at the top, the very top of the drudge report dot com.
Trump attacks drudge.
He's making some, getting some traffic all this.
Here's what Trump tweeted out or whatever, truth it out.
Something happened, but when drudge went anti-Trump, the site fell apart.
Very much like Rhonda Sanctus.
A new Latin name perhaps.
It happened instantly without notice.
But I believe I know the reason why drudge had a big moment.
But now it's gone never to resurface again.
It's totally irrelevant that often happens when people cover Trump in quotes, all caps unfairly.
I love it.
I love it.
And if you go to drudge's site, he does put stats on the bottom.
Apparently 23 million people visited his site in the last 24 hours, 652 million in the last month and the seven billion plus in the last year.
That's, that's more traffic than the devil's advocate's Facebook page.
I mean, slightly more, slightly more.
Well, if we included callers at eight four four nine six seven two seven eight nine.
That's how we, that's how I prefer to interact.
Dom, you're more of the Twitter ex guy on the panel here.
If there's a tweet and going on, it's probably dumb.
Mark from sack.
Welcome.
What he got for his mark.
Yeah, thanks guys.
And I'd like to remind to see you that the first European language that was spoken in Texas and North American continent for that sake for that matter.
It was Spanish.
I mean, that's all.
Well, Texas was Mexico.
I mean, come on.
Kevin McCarthy was out there while we never, we never ended the war and kept the land.
I'm thinking every time, every time we do that.
And the, and the big bugle with the Texans had to separate from Mexico.
Mexico is going to ban slavery.
I mean, that was one of the, one of their grapes amongst the, the Mexican government.
It's not so much they're so oppressive.
It's a theory that they're going to ban slavery.
That was the big bugle with the ad that it is just, you know, and the power grid.
I'm glad you guys brought that up because Texas has, has yet to repair their power grid to link it up with the rest of the country.
So the next time their power goes, goes down, you know, that God help them down there because people died last time that that happened.
And that is a great gambit through and through and that power grid.
Well, and Ted Cruz and probably CJ all had to can coon then when the power grid fails.
Yep.
Any other guys?
Yeah.
Thank you for listening.
Thank you.
844-967-2789.
Dom, can you imagine being a GOP lawmaker and looking forward to Trump?
Here comes Trump again.
He's welding power, the chaos, the defending his actions, you know, the other Sunday morning specifically.
I watched Ron DeSantis on the Kristen Walker on the Beat the Press.
And I thought he did a poor job of debating against Gavin Newsom because he wouldn't really debate the topic.
Sort of a CJ like character.
But then he went on Beat the Press man and it was horrible.
It was really quite horrible.
I mean, this man's a lawyer by trade a jack.
But he wouldn't answer the questions.
We've got something to sound.
Don't we?
Let's play a little of the sound.
Let's give Dom just an earful since I guarantee he wasn't up Sunday morning watching the Beat the Kristen Walker.
If you'd be so kind, let's play it for the people.
Let's do the first cut.
Ask you about the GOP front runner.
Mr. Trump is campaigning on the idea of retribution.
He's promising to jail his political enemies if he's reelected.
He's also referred to some of his political opponents as vermin.
Language the people, frankly, across the political spectrum.
Say, Harkensbach to Nazi Germany.
Do you think that kind of language is presidential?
Well, I think even beyond that, the issue is, is why are you running?
Are you running for your personal issues?
Are you running for the American people's issues?
And I'm running for the American people's issues.
And now part of that is this government is out of control.
We have seen weaponization of agencies like the DOJ and the FBI and the IRS.
I'm going to end that weaponization.
But you didn't exactly answer the question.
Is that language presidential?
That's specifically the question.
I think Walker comes back to this a couple times.
Do we have more of what's played more?
Governor, as you know, DOJ officials would reject the idea that it has been weaponized.
But let me ask you about my original question.
The use of the word vermin.
Are you comfortable with that term?
But are you comfortable with that term, Governor?
Let me just say on the DOJ.
I'm responsible for what I say and I say things differently.
But on the DOJ and the FBI.
I mean, we have seen just on my question though, Governor.
Excuse me.
What I'm not comfortable with is FBI agents going after parents going to school board meetings.
I'm not comfortable with DOJ FBI working with tech companies to censor dissent.
He's straightly not answering their question stop.
I think there's more.
Is there more?
There's one more.
A little more dissimilarious.
Maybe if he was doing his job lobby in the college football playoff system,
like he should be, according to the Farber president, just play the run on the Kristen Walker on NBC.
How that happens.
So I don't use the same rhetoric that he does.
I conduct myself in different way.
I think I conduct myself in a way that's more effective as a leader.
Part of what you have to do is you have to be strong.
You have to deliver big results.
But what you don't want to do is you don't want to alienate people for no reason.
And I think some of the reasons why he struggled electorally is because it's not even about the policy.
It's about some of these other things.
Did you condemn the use of the word vermin?
You can condemn the use of the word vermin.
I don't use the term.
But what I don't do is play the media's game where I'm asked to referee other people.
He's responsible for his words.
He's responsible for his conduct.
I'm responsible for mine.
So condemn his words and run against them.
Act like you got a pair of dissentists.
I mean, five, six, seven times.
She asked the same question.
Can you condemn the use of words like vermin?
Oh, hard.
It's not too rough.
It's bad.
You know what I'm saying?
Yes.
I can.
I do not think when your base is not see is appropriate.
It's very simple.
If your base is not see and brace if done, not so simple.
You know what I mean?
Not so simple.
When your brother is Darth Vader?
Not so simple.
Yeah.
If your base are not see and brace of perhaps you should reconsider your positions and your politics.
Man.
It is simple.
He's making it not simple because he's afraid of losing that base.
That's why he doesn't use straight up not answering the question.
Now breaking news in the state of Wisconsin legislative peace being proposed by Republicans would eliminate the Wisconsin elections commission.
And give all the power to secretary of state.
Sarah Godlowski.
Question mark.
I'm not sure if you've thought all the way through this proposal Republicans.
They're counting on Tony Evers.
The veto.
But what if he didn't come back more devil's advocates with peach.
Yeah.
His new show launches right here on civic media tonight.
The devil's advocates never personal only politics.
And we are back.
Thank you for listening to the devil's advocates radio show.
If you miss any of this fine program.
Listen to podcasts and interviews.
If you have a specific media at US click on the shows tab.
Find the devil's advocates and go to town.
Dominic Rick Smith stepping back from doing nightly talk radio.
So there will not be a Rick Smith show tonight on the civic media.
But have no fear.
We got to find brand new product to roll out this evening.
He is peach Waba.
And it's night light with peach Waba.
The new product a little more entertainment base.
We've got a great background and entertainment comedy movies.
Or Dom and I combined.
Dom couldn't even tell you anything about pop culture.
How you doing?
I'm well.
I also did nails for a while.
I want to throw that in there.
You did nails.
Like I could.
Like painted deals.
Sure.
It was brought in your resume significantly.
That's.
No, I have the perfect resume for hosting a show like night light.
Because it's all my kind of silly information.
I've picked up over the years.
I'm going to talk to some people I met throughout.
I mean, I've pretty much been an entertainment my whole adult life,
starting when I was at in college.
And I started doing stand-up comedy.
So I'm just the guy to host this show that I pitched.
I guess.
I am the right guy for my show.
You know, be careful what you're doing.
Do indulge me.
Be careful what you wish for, Peter.
Uh, be sure of the host of night light with Pete Schwabba.
I mean, it's serendipity.
It was already named night light with Pete Schwabba.
The chances that we found Pete Schwabba to host the thing.
They still audition like a hundred people not named Pete Schwabba.
But I crushed the competition.
They sent everybody home when they saw my name.
Many were willing to change their names.
Pete, whatever.
Pete, let's talk about the movies.
You've made movies start to finish.
What's that like?
Well, it's interesting.
I've done, I've been part of the process on different levels.
I've sold screenplays just as a writer when I lived in Los Angeles.
And that is pretty much like, hey, thanks for the script.
Here's some money.
Go away.
If we make it, we'll pay you the rest of the money.
So you're not really, you're involved because you kind of created the story.
You're not really involved after that, so to speak.
And then I made another film called an indie film called The Godfather of Green Bay,
which I wrote directed and I played the lead actor.
And that was invigorating.
I mean, it was like, start to finish your part of the whole process,
which can be not a great thing either because it just takes your blood and guts.
But it's all fun.
It's just creative energy and it's a real gas.
The Godfather of Green Bay.
Do you make a billion at the box office?
No, you wouldn't be on the radio, right?
Yeah, we, you know, you wouldn't have a host for the show if I had made billions.
It'd be nightlight with Peach Waba and some other person you don't know.
But no, we actually opened the week, that movie opened.
We played a few theaters in Chicago and Wisconsin.
We opened against Larry the cable guy and they spent about $50 million on promotions.
And we spent about 50 grand.
So we did okay.
We have a nice cult following and Tom Hanks company.
Love the movie and it got it played well with some critics.
But yeah, Indy Films is a tough racket.
It made me kind of run back to the studio system to be honest with you.
Peach is the the Godfather of Green Bay.
Is that available streaming right now?
Like if I want to go check it out, where would I find it?
Listen, Dom, I'll come to your house and act it out for you.
That's what I am to get the.
Yeah, you can see it on voodoo prime.
The two B I think Apple.
It's on several different outlets.
So it's out there.
Yeah.
Now, Pete, the the tone of nightlight with Peach Waba that show that.
Launches a little bit later this evening, eight to 10 o'clock.
Yeah.
It's going to play out on many of these civic media network stations.
But Pete, this will be sort of entertainment toned information,
information tone.
Will we get an update on Taylor Swift attending Packer games?
Will that be part of it?
We pretty much have to talk about that, don't we?
I mean, hey, it was a star studded event last night.
Taylor Swift, Simone Biles, Tony Shaloub.
Yeah, it was quite a look like a Laker game there was constant style.
But yeah, I'm going to talk about entertainment, infotainment, if you will.
We'll talk about what people are watching.
I'm fascinated.
Like, you know, I think one time crew, you told me your approach is like bar stool politics.
I'm kind of the same way with entertainment.
If you disagree with something, I'm saying text call.
I love a discussion about what we're watching and what's binge worthy and cringe worthy.
And especially doing it here in Wisconsin, we're going to talk about a lot of Wisconsin cultural stuff
and some really funny quirky Wisconsin stuff, too.
So it's going to be, it's kind of a unique format, but I'm hoping people respond to it
because there'll be some fun discussion and maybe a few laughs.
Peach Wabba out of left field.
Have you seen jury duty yet?
It's history.
I have my wife swears by this.
I am less enthralled.
But you know, a show like yours, will it tell me whether or not it's worthy of the investment in my time
in going like to or however many seasons deep in a show like jury duty?
Are you saying your wife launches it, but you don't?
I've been dragged in, you know, she starts watching it in my presence.
And then, you know, if I don't leave the room quick enough, I find I'm watching it.
I did think it was very funny.
I mean, I love the idea of a hidden camera show and everybody's in the joke except one guy.
And he was a great sport actually.
So I did think it was very funny.
We do that here.
Don't tell Tom.
Wait, what?
Whoops.
I want Tom on my show as a guest and I'll ask a buzz experience.
I don't even know what's going on.
From the content part of it.
I mean, lots of streaming services out there, man, right?
I got them all saved them in a little folder in my desktop.
And you know, there's a lot of content.
What's your thought about how it is now versus, you know,
back in the day everything is bundled on their cable?
You think this is the way to go or is it too much?
I think it's the way to go.
My problem is, you know, many people cut the cable years ago and just started streaming.
And the idea that you buy Amazon Prime or HBO without ads was really appealing to me.
But now they're sneaking in ads.
And it's like, all right, I'm already addicted to all their shows.
What am I going to do?
Cancel it or am I going to sit through a 60 second ad?
So I feel like they kind of are doing something underhanded.
But I still prefer streaming.
I like going from one show to the next and binge watching.
My wife and I watched binge watched the final episode of the show,
Bosh, one of our favorite cop shows all in one night, eight hours.
We got some takeout.
Wow.
You can't do that.
Like you can't do that with Starsky and Hutch, you know, or law and order.
So.
What about the sopranos?
You could make it a long weekend, couldn't you?
Yeah.
Oh, man.
My young depressing weekend.
Just found the sopranos.
I think it's a nice show for him to watch.
Yeah.
That one can't be values.
But a few murders along the way.
Yeah.
That's one of the type of things we'll talk about on my show is like,
what did you think of the ending of the sopranos?
Controversial.
Some people loved it.
Some people hated it.
It's just that kind of stuff.
Your favorite Christmas movies.
Give me a rerun.
You love that you never watched the original.
Just some fun entertainment talking.
Best Christmas.
A lot of Wisconsin talk.
Movie ever die hard.
Who are your fine guests tonight, Pete?
I got Bill left, who is the host of an national morning show called tune in with me on
me TV and Frank Anderson.
Bill is also a stand up.
I knew from years ago.
He's a very funny guy.
And then a guy named Frank Anderson was a website called Wisconsinology.
And he's got a lot of fun.
Cool Wisconsin stories.
And he's going to tell some Christmas ghost stories tonight on the show.
I'm looking forward to it.
Pete Schwabba host of the night light with Pete Schwabba 8 to 10 o'clock.
Maybe dawn is next.
Then the polar bear show.
Then night light with Pete Schwabba.
You're going to want to keep it locked, civic media.
