Navigating Community Concerns: Roads, Religion, and Representation

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I want to thank everybody for joining us. I sit in the other chair. I'll move down so I can see what's actually going on with the video. But good morning. Good morning, Clark. How are you, sir? Oh, I'm getting ready to talk about, no. See, she now been listening to all those freedom songs.

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30 seconds ago, I felt the power, the presence of the Lord. I listened to Karen Hunter, and on Monday she has Dr. Black on. And Dr. Black can't get through a sentence without speaking in tongue. He's speaking tongue. He got to the point yesterday where Karen ain't got nothing. Go on. Say what you got to say. Because he was waiting on a response and she was like,

Oh, okay. I got that, man. But yeah, he's speaking tongues every sentence. That's how you end the sentence. He starts speaking in tongues. So, you know, those, those kind of people we call the deep saints, like those are the saints that if a mosquito bite them, they'll be cleansed and washed in the blood of the land. He's an academic.

With all he get a shot of that. Oh, you go. Oh, that's a deep point there. Yeah. Yeah. Full of the blood. You know, I love when people coming up and you know, you know, we get ready to get it. Oh, they do that little holy dip before they get up. Yeah, that's what you know. You know, it's coming. Or if it's that one mother.

She'd be like, oh, mother's such and such. Oh, she's about to grab the mic. I went to a funeral one time and I saw mother dip on the way up. Oh, you know what time it was. Hey, glory. That's the hey glory. And then her daughter, her daughter came together. He shut her daughter down. It was like, oh, yeah, because when they get all dressed up, get those church hats on. Oh, you know it's over. They didn't put too much time. Show it to her. In the fit, you know, for us not to get full, full just.

And that's why I love African people all over the world. Because African people bring their swag. I don't care what it is. Rhonda was asking me about the one legging that you see in the WNBA. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And she wanted to know, yeah, the sleeve and they do on one leg.

And what it was, and she wanted to know was it style. I'm thinking, yeah, probably is. No, it's actually compression that keeps the blood flow going through your legs. Why don't you do both legs? Because it depends on how bad your knee is. Alicia Gray, she does both. Well, yeah, it really depends. Because for me, I wear a sleeve on my right leg when I hoop. So I wear a sleeve because that helps keep the swelling down from my knee. Hey, man.

I do this thing for real, brother. I ain't speaking of awesome. Just saying something, man. The full funeral. I'll let a funeral. And I'm going to argue, man. And I just think this is so out of order, baby. It's just me. If a person is grieving their loved one, I think it's inappropriate for a preacher to stand up and say, are you glad to be in the land of the living? Thank God you are alive because this could have been you.

What? Oh, I'm in agreement with that. Yeah, but if I'm in the front row, I'm smackity because I'm sure my love will want to be alive too. Yeah, but I'm sure and I ain't speaking for the front row. I'm sure.

They don't necessarily want to be where their loved one is. I ain't speaking from the front row. I love Bob of the Deaf. Right, right. You know, but I could wait till that great getting up morning. Yeah, but I would rather have them here than on the other side. Okay, but would you rather be here? In the land of the living? Yeah. Yeah. So why are you tripping? Because I want them with me. Well, they ain't. They dead. Right. So for you to get up and say,

Aren't you glad as we have this discussion on Tuesday? Based on the the words and the music of comfort that went out for the Northwest you know I mean, you know you you you you got Jesus said this When the guy said hey Let me go. I'll follow you. Let me go home and bury my brother Jesus said let the dead take care of the dead basically Jesus saying he dead

Ain't nothing you can do right. Ain't nothing you can do for him now. You know, you need to keep it moving. And that's hard because with our loved ones, Lord, we don't, Lord, why did you take right out? Hold on, man.

Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

Stop it, man. Let the dead bear the dead. Move on. I don't know if Jesus was saying, man, that Hebrew dead. Let him stay. We got some real business. You know, his business is on the other side. We got to take care of some business on this side, right? You know, so that's hard because, you know, you grieve your loved one, but still in the back of your mind, you sit up there thinking like, well, what the hell?

Why they were saying to be like, ah, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me, take me with me

come with me, she was like, no, I was just playing. He said, well, you told me to take you with you. So since I'm here, come on, she's like, no, Jesus. No. It was hilarious, though. I'll tell you, that's inappropriate, man, to be like, aren't you glad you in the land of the living? Because this could have been you. And you point to my loved one. Man, I'm jumping up putting you underneath the casket.

That's just me, man. So you're going to catch a case. Yeah, pretty much. How about you? How about you? How you get up and say something like that? I'm turning around and looking at all my family. Let me let me let me say this to you right out.

I will not be saying that at your home going. Welcome to the program. Thank you. I just made a note to the self. Note to the self. Carla, welcome to the program. Yes. Good morning. Good morning. This might be off the subject, but I'm very concerned about the mismanagement of Milwaukee. These potholes are just like

bum-ridden roads. I just tore up seven of the cars and just tore up my Corvette. And I wonder who's going to pay for that. It's matching off my wheel and causing my whole Corvette to drop to the ground. Now my spine is hurting. And it's just time for the mayor to be addressed about patching up things with a bubble gum patch.

and thinking that's going to fix anything when there's hurting people out here. Financial or physical. No one should be able to get away with these type of roles to repair road tax and closely going up, charging us more. It's time to look at this, Mayor. I think Mayor's needs that has the engineering experience of recalling now things like they did.

making a city narrow, pushing people back behind time to wait for a bus to go through a narrow road that they depleted our three lanes. This is despicable. I'm gonna end up going to the hospital today, but I wanted to let everybody know it's time to protest about these roads. If we pay tax, we should have smoke roads. Anyone with a sports car

are in deadly situation to have their vehicle pull up because they are made for the ride on smooth roads. If a vehicle that's a sport car can ride on the street, they should not have to pay tax. And if the road is not fixed, no one should have to pay road tax. That should be a pause period till they get a hold of the financial for matters. We should not be sharing revenue.

to other counties of people that moved out of the inner city of Milwaukee and stripped our pocket of the biggest city in Wisconsin to be stripped by Republicans. The mayor need to stand up and do something about these roads because it's going to be a lot of lawsuits and patching up and having the cars rolled over asphalt is very stupid and unprofessional. I never seen anyone secured to say that's okay.

for other cars to smash that asphalt instead of steamroller. It's time for the Teddy Gerald on Rolls-Up. Thank you. He right. All right. He is right. Because it is terrible. Carla, welcome to the program. Good morning and thank you for checking my car. You're welcome. And that wasn't, I wasn't gonna say that wasn't what I was talking about, but that is a big comment to be making.

But you know, we're not living in the same times we used to. It used to be a bigger crew. We've had some harsh winters, and we have a lot more potholes than ever. And they're going back over the ones that they've been fixing. But I have another comment. That's just being done in the Milwaukee County with these crews. I don't believe they do

good work like they do out in the suburbs when they're building things. I've been watching a building go up over here on MLK when they put up this paper deal on there where it's flying off and they don't have come to work. It's just like they have a job for the next three years fixing our roads. Whoever did that contract, I think it was ridiculous. In convenience in our city,

by blocking off the road as they have done. And then, just like this morning, we are on our way out to the VA. They bother to mention you can't turn on national, but you just get surprised by things. It's inconsiderate. And as long as you have, in Madison, doing what they do, giving our money, Wisconsin is

the financial vehicle of Wisconsin. We distributed money to all the little poor areas that can't stand us. Don't like nothing that we do. Like it or not, this is where everything is happening. And you want to blame your mayor? If everybody keeps talking about, you got a black police chief. You have a black police chief. You have a black mayor. County executive's black.

And so who's controlling all of the Republicans? And until we learn more about what's going on, we're going to stay in the dark and blame the wrong people. And I just want to now say what I wanted to say before. Be a company man, keep it neutral. Because number one, I like the way the radio station is built. You want to represent

The people that are not get a don't have a voice and the ones that do have a voice and that is Okay as we try to deal with that good morning gentlemen at the end of Michelle's program and organ version of a gospel

song was played. It is Pray For Me by Moses Tyson Jr. As a matter of fact, I shes ammed it when I heard it. I played it on the way to church Sunday. And it was bubbling in my spirit, you know. Right. And so that's it. It is Pray For Me, Moses Tyson Jr. So when you hear that, don't that do something to your spirit? It's almost like your inner man just starts bubbling with joy.

I don't know if it was joy or pain. Sunshine or rain. Joy and pain. I want to get in the center of that call of the work. Why we can't use the the same mama concrete they put on the highway for the streets.

It's thousands and thousands, thousands of cars go through on the highway. Why didn't don't fix the streets the same way as that? Well, let's talk about that. If I live off of 65th and Lisbon, they're currently doing road work on Lisbon for years. And so for some of us, the inconvenience of the detours happen to go around. I think the other thing is, and I always tell people,

you have to take into account volume. If you look at a street like Capitol Drive, which is a major state highway, the volume of traffic.

And to mention and I think one of the people talked about the climactic kind of things that happens It gets hot and we're talking about potholes. We're not talking like sinkholes, right? And so city trying to keep up with patching that Because if you're saying well, you know what they should just go well once they start tearing up your street Well in order to go in and do what they have to do then we have another level of complaint. I understand why people are complaining But the reality is you live in a big city

And because you live in a big city, there are challenges that big cities have. Right. Like right now, I think it's in West Bend, where they're finally doing, they're redoing the streets downtown. And the businesses are complaining. But why won't they operate how they do on the freeway? And I agree with you. Because freeway is different. First of all, the freeway maintenance is done by the federal government.

But give us the same recipe. Wait, hold on. Well, give you the same pot of money. But when they work, they work when people are asleep, so it's less traffic. So they're working all day. Well, yeah. But but I'm saying like when they close these ramps off, keep people off the ramps, you know, they're working throughout the night to try to get it done because they know traffic is going to pick up, you know, during the daytime for rush hour, people going to work.

I think the same thing should be done for our city streets when it's less traffic, you know, get to work and get it done because some of these streets, and I can name a few of them that has been, I mean, terrible for years. I'm talking about over 20-something years that they've been terrible and they haven't even fixed these streets yet. Fondalac is one of them. Taitonia over by Silver Spring and the whole DMV area. It's another one.

They've been working on Lisbon for years. So it's like, when do we ever... Because I don't know why people think that you're going to get this job done in two weeks. No, no, no, no. I mean, when you... I think it's going to take some time. When you look at what it takes to, first of all, you excavate... Right. Then you have to let what you have cleared out settle. Right. Then you have to then come in and lay the asphalt. And then... You know, so it takes... And look.

We live in a society where we want it done right away. And the reality is that's not how the world works. I look at a building, right? And we can build buildings faster now than we've ever been able to, right, with prefab. But I understand people's complaint. I think that those of us who grew up in Milwaukee understood that we had a socialism that we could afford.

You know now they're their fiscal challenges that the city is facing like for example This is the city didn't factor in the cost of diesel fuel But they have to make sure those garbage trucks are out there. They have to make sure you know, and we want our garbage picked up You know, so I think in cities have and you don't necessarily have and one of the things that helped Milwaukee was it has such a strong

what would you say, industrial corporate tax break that we could do to socialism? I keep using that term socialism. We're fixing our streets and things like that, but no matter what. And again, you're probably, and again, because we're in this silo here, you're probably getting a lot of the same complaints in other areas of the state. Now we said we don't care, that's them. All I'm telling you is that it's a reality in Chicago.

They're complaining about potholes in New York. They're complaining about potholes in DC. They're complaining about potholes. They complain about it, but on the highways, they not complain about no power because the highways are funded by the federal government. Let's get some like like like down now. Illinois is different because Illinois has that toll road. They're saying that the proceeds, some of the proceeds from the toll roads will go into the work on the toll roads. Wisconsin does not have a toll. So why won't the 43.

Right. 94, I think parts of 39, which is kind of going Southwest. Right. All that, that maintenance is done by the federal government. So why can't we get federal government to take care of our city streets under this administration? Oh, okay. I get it. And I think somebody did point out the mayor was black. Yeah. So he go, okay. I get it. I get it. I'm going to get this call. Yeah. Call it. Welcome to the program. Good morning. Good morning.

Good morning. You know, politics has a lot to do with our infrastructure, you know, like Biden, when he gave all that money for infrastructure. And former president, well, this man has an, uh, don't do that. But then we look at our issues of the road. And the one talk was speaking on the fact that people with sports cars and the things that, you know, how do you have to maneuver? Okay.

Let's concern ourselves with the way these young folks drive. They didn't have drivers there. They don't know to move to the road. They'll come from the right lane and turn left in front of you, right, left, or they turn right in front of you. And it's difficult. So sometimes you've got to bite the bullet to be safe. The roads might be narrower, but we're safer. You know, we don't have nobody more passive doing a hundred miles an hour and cutting us off.

You know, why would we want to go back to something that has cost lives? Tremendously, okay, it slows down. It slows down. You know, I just moved back here in November, Mississippi. And if you live in the area where I live, you know, the roads were narrow. You had to deal with that. And then it's being limited, it's much greater. But the roads are much narrower. But the thing here at the end of the day,

If we go back to the drawing board and change the things back to the way they were, the damage that's going to happen to the lives that now develops our savings. I don't like it because I drive sports cars, I got luxury cars, I got many vehicles, but I have to deal with it for the safety of myself, my child, and the people around me. God bless you.

You're listening to community voice phone lines open for one four four four four five two five zero four one four four four four five two five zero We're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back Five FM with your host Keith Paris. Let me do this and just be parenthetical here just for a moment You know when Michelle was talking about some of the things that they do at the is it brown The places I did I dropped off Betty

that Rhonda had donated a couple more about three Saturdays ago. And they're right, they come to the car, take it out the car for you. But remember they were talking about sundries, right? And I was trying to point out to people that one of the reasons why you see those things locked up in the stores, like deodorant, lotions, certain types of soap, is that that's what people are, they can't afford for whatever reasons. And so you shoplift it.

You know and that and so it says a lot about where the economy really is over and beyond where people might think it is but they used to say back in the 80s used to be called the lipstick test and when they would talk about the women who were going and start shoplifting lipstick it would tell you what the economy the state of the economy and so you know once you pay your rent do all those things some of these other things and we'll have a problem with folks who are funky All right

any deep too. Carla, welcome to the program. Right. Well, first of all, I want to say good morning. Number one, I'm not giving nobody no money if they ask. And if that Jesus is in disguise, he's going to start today after with me. Number two, I heard you say, you know, we're having uh, fiscal issues with those fiscal issues and I stopped Kevin Johnson from giving him that raise during the NPS. And you don't have to say it, but I'm going to say it.

What he did when he gave himself that raise during all this drama with NPS was very Nicarish. That was a straight Nicar move, okay? Say that again? It was a Nicar move. No, I got that. Before that was the beginning of the sentence. It was a Nicar move. No, before that. Oh, you said if you're looking for minds that Jesus in disguise. No, after that.

about like MPS and the city of Milwaukee. Oh, the fiscal period. Well, you know, you have said we have a fiscal issue. We do. We were those fiscal issues in that that Cavalier from giving himself a raise and I thought that was very rigorous to me. That was just Cavalier didn't vote on that. That was the. That's what the nigga move. Okay. That was a nigga move. Okay. Moving forward.

We'll see. Potholes, your best is to move. Okay? They're not gonna fix these threes correct because you're black. Okay? You don't have 26 characters in your last name, and we don't have a pen line when we take our clothes off. Because when they fix them, soon as the car drives over it, that charcoal boo-doo sock comes right out of the pothole. They fix it like they on bad dope.

because you can go get, you can go get some more and fish yourself a $5, but it's mighty funny. We don't got no money for this. We don't got no money for that. But if a white person driving a super will get it, our hair break loose and everything got to stop. All right. So we don't have to live in denial and sugarcoated, calling like it fit. You're black, we're black. They're going to have every excuse for not to do anything with blacks from our toll, well, from our roles.

When you go to other neighborhoods, they're not putting no black top that's on a crooked angle with a tree that's uprooted, where the sidewalk looks like a lot of white. They ain't doing it like that. They're doing it because it's black people. Now, when it's become 90% white, they will be on all these issues like heroin and a good needle.

It's going to be tracks and trains everywhere. They're going to fix it right and get the high right the first time. It's not going to be dumb down those with five hour energy shots in it. We're black. That's why they fix it like they do. Haven't you noticed when you read the journal, send them, they talked about all the great things on downtown. But then when they asked about the inner city, everybody was quiet while the people was looking like the inside of a dirty casket.

Be honest with yourself. You don't have to, you don't have to live it now. These black people who are these politicians know that you're black. Now, stop wearing cuddle dogs, cotton doctors, and walk on your tippy toes and talk to your nostrils, and maybe take some paint and paint yourself white, and they will pick you very, very quick, like nose on good dope, being snorted out of a $100 bill. Have yourself a good day. You're black.

Just a case Just a case you didn't know you know now use black Call a welcome to the program Good morning

I hope you would guess if I did mention the legacy of one of our famous, one of our wonderful pharmacists right there in Burla. I just can't think of his name. Over 50 years, he was on that corner, certainly. Yeah, Mr. Carter. Mr. Carter. You know, I did his eulogy? Yes.

You know, it's a strange thing how that happened The the the pastor who was supposed to do it big fallout and Who did I get the phone call from? Oh, I got the phone call from my pastor and he said could you do I'm putting a blank on what mr.. Carter's first name was he said because he had another funeral Lester, thank you Lester Carter

Now, when I saw, he said, do Lester Carter's funeral, I had no clue. It was Dr. Carter. And so at the last minute, they inserted me in that. Did you say that Russell's was black owned? I thought Russell's was white owned. No. What family owned Russell's? You know, I don't know, but I do a lot of black people worked in Russell's, but I didn't remember that Russell's was black owned.

Absolutely when I got here in 79 and my my children was they got lived on 22nd in burlite and I didn't know where any pharmacies was I was new to the city and It was right down the road. He was so wonderful trying to help a single mom You know how they use this and you know things like that

And, you know, with the clinic tour, he was just a gift of him in my heart. And my husband, that was his first job. He said he's gone now, but he was 70 years old when he passed. However, when he was his very first job was with Mr. Carter. And I used to see him at the doctor's office. He's like, hi, auntie.

He helped a whole lot of people pass their drug test

He said, I got something for that. I mean, Cleans you real good. Cleans you real good. I'm talking, you know, because marijuana is near your sister, what, 30 to 45 days? Longer than that. I don't know what he concocted, but man, people swore by him when they had to take a piss test. Yes, I mean, that was outside. I remember pulling up on burn line.

Yeah, man. I went in there a couple of times for myself. Yeah. I want to get some some cough medicine. I need to do some Nyquil. A community treasure. Yeah. But you know what I loved about Carter's? First of all, it

And there was another drugstore back in the day on Seventh and North Sangers. And I loved the way that those drugstores smelled when you came in. You know, it was clean, but it was, and I always remember how Carter's smell, how Sangers smell, and, uh... And it's on, uh, Tatooine Nass, too, back in the day. Oh, yeah. You're going way back, man. Yeah. And late, late days.

And he became an herbologist. And I used to listen to these shows all the time and stuck with me. We, as a community, we've got to remember these, I'll call them ancestors because that's who they are in my heart. You know, because even the radio stations that we're speaking to,

You all are a gem and in a lot of people's heart a lot of stations have gone under but 860 has been tall and I hope and pray that they continue to stand tall because You guys help the community and formative your day by day was going on and we need you and

or the support, like, where do you take the things to the homeless? I wrote down some things, but I didn't get it all. I have a lot of things since my husband has that. And I want to donate. I have, I have quilts and, oh my God, blankets and shirts. I do write it down, but I'm a little confused about the address. So if you can repeat that.

Again, if you can I would appreciate it. All right, appreciate you call welcome to the program I don't know why you do this You know something brothers

I'm gonna ask you the question right now. Why I got you here with the outside of my political sometime partisan What do you got against me man? Because before I land the point you're gonna jump in you're gonna you're gonna ruffle you're gonna ruffle whatever I'm throwing distorted so the Public can't hear it. So what about what outside of my that? What do you have against me brother? Nothing Okay, so why do you handle me?

in such a way. You have to be handled that way. Okay, there's a reason. Why do you say that? Hold on one. Hold on one, brother. That means you have this thing for gentlemen. You would probably like to be like me. With something that you don't like about me that you wish you could either be or do because there's no other reason for you to act that way.

I mean my issue. I don't have a personal issue with you. I just take issue with the things that you say. There's a difference. You know anything that you mean far as my partisan, far as some of my partisan views. Huh? Some of my political partisan views because a gentleman just called in right now using the middle word about five or six times. You used all kind of before the active but really used it. Maybe you think it's a comedic hour.

And he's just, you know, he's just, you know, it's a clown's moment for you guys. And you're laughing at him and not with him. But when I call on a more serious note, and most of the time I try to speak facts to the community that I love, you understand, really love and down in it all my life. And there's a problem.

So let me ask you, because you were using your feelings on Michelle's. No, I ain't in my feelings, but I call that your feelings. Now you want to go another direction, and you want to, what you want to do now is you want to morph away from the question. I told you, that's what I am saying.

and make yourself look like a great big man. Our question to you is, I didn't know you'd be at the, the, the, the unity from Mr. Carter. And then I had to ask you a question because you was going to get ready to, you know, start your situation. Okay. Let's, let's rewind. And thank you. Quick cleanup. Sangers was actually on eighth and north. That's correct. Cause we're on ninth and north. All right.

Yeah, my uncle, my uncle, my uncle wound up buying that, that, that, that bread store. A seven play through wound up on me before they tore it down. Okay. I don't know. You, I don't realize you were related to Ms. Claypool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mr. Claypool. I went to school with Jackie. Oh, Jackie, right. That's the oldest daughter. Yeah. Yeah. That's the oldest daughter. Then you had, uh, you know, Monica.

I don't I don't have but but you know. I want to know I want to know what the problem is with you and me man. I mean, you know, that's because my delivery is so profound and and and you guys would love to and and then you try to you know, I maybe maybe it's a rumor about my past which is

a bunch of lies, you know, anything about your past, man. I don't know about your personal personal reason that you would. I don't think I don't think you dislike me because you push back on me when I have an opinion. I think I think I think you're a swell guy outside of some of the beliefs that you have that that I that I'm, you know, I can't see eye to eye with the same thing with you. I think you were swell guy, too.

Okay. Well, the thing is that you guys were talking about the old days and us giving up our spots in the community. And to be totally honest with you, we have dissolved a lot of things that we own as black people here, including the medial stations that you sit in that now. Let me ask you a question. Do you guys got a new home? You said that earlier.

But I don't know if it's public knowledge or not, but we're now owned by a black media group which consists of black folks. Get your facts right. No, no, it's not that. Hold on, brother. Hold on. Because you keep saying that we're no longer owned by blacks, and we are. OK, so Civic radio is owned by blacks. Yes, sir. We have a bunch of different things.

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I wanted to ask you, Keith. It comes up W2, by the way, when you call. Oh, yeah, OK. That's what I was wondering what that was. When you guys talk about Russell's, I lived on 11th and center. Russell's was originally on 11th and center and was purchased and bought for the building of the New North. That's how it ended up on Burla. Was it white on? Yes. That's what I thought. Yeah, they were on they were on Center Street. Yeah.

You know because I didn't realize they were on center because by time I had gotten we moved 1968 we moved on Fifth Street and you know and I had classmates at Burger who lived and then going to Garfield Park You know sometimes you might go down there right to Do what you have to do. Thank you for that. I always thought he saw me at the meat market. Oh We was at bonzo. That's what we was at that day

Okay, people are not happy with the mayor. We'll see if he's running for reelection. What are you seeing in the chat, Keith? I'm not happy with the mayor's attention to the majority of our city, not just downtown. My vote is weighing on his actions or inaction.

Yeah, all right. I don't know what what whoever did whatever they did The hurt me just feelings. What are you doing? He looked like he died Keith did you hear that this morning when Jermaine decided he I Always wanted to do that cuz I remember being

After my parents in the house in the kitchen and then they come on the radio like Sunday evenings like four o'clock five o'clock funeral services Why do you slow down? And I would say you have to have a funeral director's voice Yeah, I mean because you trying to set the right tone, right? We want to remember those families and they used to scare me though because like

because we'll get out of, as you know, going to Rehobo. J.W. Wilkerson. Yeah, J.W. Wilkerson. That's right. You know, going to Rehobo, you know, we didn't get out of church till like 3.30, like it started at nine. In the morning. It started at nine, but we didn't get out until about 3.30. So then, like, when you get home and you're getting ready to eat dinner, I'll never forget it. Then Y.P.W.W. at 6.00. Right. So you got to fix your food quick. So that's probably why we had Pork and Beans and Winners a lot.

Oh Sunday's cuz it's quick. No, I'm just playing. No, but I remember being in the kitchen and my parents was cooking and to be like round four o'clock, four thirty. Sunday evening's in it. The organ to come in. I don't know what it is about that organ. It's all that organ to come in. I don't I don't understand how you have a black church and don't have a B3 or B4 organ. You gotta have a ham. You gotta have a ham. I just

You know, every now and then I say, can you play me some church music over there on that organ? I'm not into. I know I've been to church with all they have is a piano. Right. I can't. I can't feel that. Man, I went and played one time and I was a I was a guest musician at this Catholic church. And then I don't know if there was Catholic or Luther, but the organ, it was in the balcony. That's the choir loft. That's what a choir loft used to be. Man, so.

I'm looking over the balcony. Have you ever played a pipe organ? Yes. It's hard as a full to play. Yeah. Because you got 93 pedals and you got to push both of them to which you feet. So I'm over here like trying to play that thing. But yeah, man, I was a guest musician and I'm sitting in the balcony and they, you know, I'm on the organ here and looking this way. But all of the pipes is in the back of me. And what it was was that certainly in the Catholic tradition, Lutheran tradition,

Um, there was no choir stand. It was the altar. Right. Right. So the choir loft was in the, you go, was that way? Yeah. Yeah. The old Lutheran church, the stacks or whatever you call it, the pipes and stuff was in those, in that room off to the side over there in the balcony. Yeah. That's what that was. I remember that room. Yeah. If you, if you, if you go to the national cathedral in Washington, if you go to Abyssinian church in New York, that's what a choir loft is that really had everything to do with

how people did service and if you're a Baptist and you gotta remember Church of God and Christ came out of the Baptist movement, then that means we had a whole totally different thing about the altar. That's what made Vatican II. Vatican II was when they went in and did this level of, they called modernization of the Catholic Church in terms of their rituals. And one of the things they did was that now if you go to mass, the priest faces the congregation. In the past,

He had his back to the congregation because the altar was up in the wall. So they changed that Outlaw Latin You have to do mass in The predominant language of the congregation. So if it's a Polish congregation, you do it in Polish. Most people do it in English. They do it in Spanish. So was that that that whole Change of how we do worship for those of us who come from The Baptists are probably

an extreme Protestant movement because it got away from any hierarchical structure and it was really about the work, the polity and the autonomy of the local church. That's why you go to any Baptist church and it's done differently. Where if you go to Lutheran church, if you go to the Catholic church, like for example,

the liturgy is done a year in advance, sometimes two, three years in advance. So they're following on this particular Sunday, this is our liturgy. Our liturgy includes the songs we do, the scriptures that we use, what the emphasis is. So a lot of it, and this is something that William Augustus Jones said, great pastor in New York, he says, our culture informs our theology, right? So based on our experience when you go into churches, now look,

For many of us in the South they didn't have an organ. Do they really had a piano? Do they still have the Sunday school books? Oh, yeah. Now that that is pretty much universal if you use that book Mm-hmm. It's being taught the commentary is is every Sunday was saying every Sunday Everybody's on the same right. That's as close to that this and others that having a prescribed liturgy So how did that end up happening because I know I'm gonna coach it

They was on yeah, I mean, I think we all use everybody was on the same weekly lesson, right? And your publishing house, right? No, your publishing house would like, you know, church of God and Christ as a publishing house. The Baptist have publishing house. OK, so you have but the whole, you know, verse of Sunday school, that's in the commentary. So you get that real thick commentary. It's like a year is it's pretty much that's how it's going to cover. So.

And can I just do this and no, I gotta go. I believe that Sunday school is for children because that's what Sunday school was originally designed for. And then we began to do because kids wouldn't get Bible, vacation Bible schools, another example. They weren't getting that religious instruction because Baptist didn't have, unlike Catholic schools or Lutheran schools where you're getting, and here's the word catechism, right? You're being instructed on the faith.

all the different things that you do uh and so then we did but you you find more adults in Sunday school than you find children and i hate it Sunday schools i'm like man i've been in school you say you got to go to break yes i got a question for you go man man but what what you don't like but what's wrong with me man you got something against me

Man, and I saw you at the meat market. You listen to a community voice. The phone lines are open for one four four four four five two five zero four one four four four five two five zero. You try to plan it out, but it never goes to plan. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back.

Welcome back. Y'all listen to this fundamental. They got mad at me because they went to a joint that was closed and I told them they open on Wednesday. Why you go on Monday because they didn't believe Monday was Monday. That's just like with the last time in the spring election for early voting. I took my ballot on Monday.

Uh, it didn't start until Tuesday. I'm over here cussing out you mad at the phone. I'm over here cussing out the box like they didn't sit up and told me. And then I said, no, dude, it start Tuesday. And you go like, oh, well, I'm gonna sit out here all night. Hey, man, look, I showed up a whole week early one time on a recruiting trip. I went up to Philadelphia and I love going to this. I used to love going to the all girls school. Yeah.

Because, man, when they see a dude come in the building, they go, lunch me. And I got up and it was Garedi High School. Garedi. It was an all-girls school on the west side of Chicago, west side of Philly. And I loved it because I had classmates from Garedi. And I loved their team name. They were the Garedi Girl Rillers.

They ended up merging with Archbishop Newman. And I had classmates from Archbishop Newman too. But yeah, I showed up a whole week early, but sister was very nice. She said, well, Mr. Parrish, you're here. We'll get the young ladies. Man, I had freshmen coming in talking about going to college. You didn't talk about going to college. You see a dude, like there was another spot in DC, Notre Dame Academy.

which was right across from Gonzaga Academy. Gonzaga was the boys' school. Notre Dame was the girls' school. And, man, I know I'm down this rabbit hole, but Regina Hall, she went to a high school, very, very, very, Tony Catholic High School in the D.C. area called Regina. Oh, and Regina was this high-end, all-girls' school. You know, when you...

Part of being a college recruiter is that you learn about high schools, right? You learn about like test scores coming out the high school the ranking of the high school Like there were certain schools that we were never going to get students from The Ivy Leagues were gonna get them as a matter of fact we had to wait

I think acceptance letters go out early acceptance in February. We'd have to wait until the IVs and the near IVs were sent out there. Then we would send out our acceptance letters because we wouldn't, and if I had a choice to go to Yale or go to Mount St. Mary's, if the money's right, I'm going to Yale, right? So it was, I learned a lot about like where the Obama girls went. They went to Sitwell. Sitwell is like a Quaker school.

Sitwell Friends, there's a Friends High School in Philadelphia. Some of the best schools, not just in DC, in the country. I'm talking Sitwell Friends would be like university school. Really? Yeah. And so you understand, and I know I argue with people all the time about this whole idea, but like everything in life, you get what you pay for. The investment that you make in it. If you drop in 24,000 a year in tuition for high school,

Trust me. You're going to get the highest. You're going to get high end education. Yeah. Okay. All right. I just wanted to, I don't know why I went down that rabbit home, but call it. Welcome to the program. Good morning. Good morning guys. How y'all doing? Doing well. Right out. What I do. Did you do me a favor? Yes, sir. Did you play that again? What that?

That cat was crying, wasn't he? And it started early. He was crying on Michelle's program.

I don't know if I want to be five eight. But you but you know what in all seriousness, who do we sound like? The orange man. Are they talking about me? Yeah.

Man, he sounds just like that make a lot of sense now. Why he's so emboldened to him and why he followed behind him no matter what. And I know y'all, now this is what, I mean, this is just so bold and arrogant. I know y'all saw that ad where they popping them bottles. Y'all ain't seen the commercial with the Republicans, with the Blythe, they popping bottles and stuff.

They pop in bottles? Yo, I ain't seen that yet. What, partying? Yeah, like, they got it. They pimping. Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. I just want to make sure that I'm understanding you right. So they are partying, popping bottles as if they're in the club? Yeah, like, they pimping, man. They got it going on. They just blatantly doing it in front of your face, man. It's just like, we get y'all.

and ain't none y'all gonna be able to do about that. That's the way I told you when I saw the ad. Oh, all right. I ain't seen that ad. Public. Isn't it ironic that Sarah Huckabee gets in trouble for telling the truth? When she lied, when she worked as press secretary, she lied. I mean, she lied as much as, as, as Trump did. Now, whatever happened, her father now is ambassador to Israel.

So whatever happened between him and Trump, he's ambassador to Israel. So, so, you know, go ahead. Go ahead. But you know what? When they, when they were showing Abby yesterday, because I watched Abby, it's hard for me to watch it, but I watched Abby last night. She ate the first one that said that all of them were saying that about these white boys and stuff like that. But they had to nerve it. Got so mad. They told them they better apologize for it. They better take it down.

And they better replace it with now check this out. They said they better replace it with should make work Ain't that ain't that ain't that something? Well, I could actually say that man I'm sitting up there watching this and they said you better replace it with should make work That is ours. I think that I work in public assistance

And, you know, we would do regional conferences. We would do state conferences. And even our little trip up to Jamesville, we drove through some economically distressed areas, you know, out in either that's Warwick County or Walker Shaw County. The poverty piece is, and when Michelle was talking about it, it made me go back to the welfare queen, Ronald Reagan.

Now a lot of people saying that one was actually white who was the welfare queen but as long as they put the face of welfare being Or let's talk about immigration There's a whole lot of Europeans Who have overstayed their visas which is one of the most violated immigration laws. Do you see any push trying to round them up where they are? Because it's easier for you to be on TV

Browning up brown people, right? And people go like, well, they shouldn't be here illegally. But you know what? Some people still can't do wrong, right? But heavy handedness, right? And now people beginning to see the impact of economically what this means because a lot of these people you are deporting are providing essential services to Americans. And let me pull y'all code this up.

Because men bring the bee way out. Where is that? It's a place down by the airport where you can, or you can eat, what's the name of that place? Golden Corral? Mm-hmm. Well, they got a Golden Corral out by, by that roller skating place that they wanted to black sand or something like that. Don't y'all fool y'all so? Because men bring the bee all over the place shopping. They got food stamps too.

Don't y'all fool y'all so don't white folks got got food stamps also. So don't don't don't y'all don't y'all believe the hype on that They they probably got more than what we got and they still got food stamps They make up a greater percentage and then Michelle pointed something out The majority of people receiving snap benefits of people that are working you have people in the military Who are eligible for snap benefits? So, you know when but when you have to start having this this discussion And that's the problem would be an in the silo

Right because this is your whole world and you don't understand that there's existence outside of what I can see You know in my immediate area and so working in public assistance. That means I'm working in poverty Child support same thing like out state Do's are as hostile to child support as brothers are in the community and and part of this is you have to understand the link between public assistance and child support, right?

The majority of people, almost 80% plus of people on child support, have been people who've gone through the public assistance system. And by law, a referral has to be made. And by law, that money that's paid out by the state has to be repaid, a portion of it has to be repaid. And by law, it says that, and part of it is if I can do child support,

then that person won't need to be on financial assistance. So it's all tied into. So when you look at people, when they say, well, they can't afford to pay, a lot of these people are poor. And then they pulled into a system. And then on top of that, and this, thank you, Bill Clinton, when they did the welfare reform act, they really strengthened child support enforcement. That's what the conservatives wanted, right? We want to get our money back. And so all of a sudden now it became a felony.

not to pay child support. There's something if you go through the federal regs called the deadbeat dad law, right? That was put in place. Now, again, when you sit up and we think about child support, we just thinking, you know, but maybe for someone like me, I may or may not be in the child support system if I got someone pregnant because chances are.

In most cases, she might already have private health insurance. So there's going to be no need for her to go down and apply for public assistance. Now, she can go in and then ask for child support. And I think she's well within her rights to ask for child support for me. But then that's handle not handle. That's a different pool of people. You know, so when it took me a while to understand it only because I teach child support, I had to go in and do research on it.

A lot of people don't even realize that child support actually comes out of the Social Security Act. A lot of people don't know that, right? Your kind of comes out of your Social Security Act. And one last thing, and I want to just tell you how bad they want to hold on to power. You know the guy that's running for, I think, is Governor in Texas. What's his name? Practice, isn't that excellent? Yep. No, not for governor. There's a woman running for governor. What's the white dude?

You talk about running for said that the girl for hands that he got as Paxton. Yeah Paxton did you see his wife come on TV yesterday and said no matter what he did we still got to back him up because we need to stay in power but they call himself the party of morale and I called him and told you what you were you weren't you weren't there that's right they keep but they call himself the family more party right

But they broke what's that? I think it's called grinding D or grinder Right in three places But they supposed to be the ball the mall is holding up the mall stands within this country, but they break in they break in this gate gate site Hey, that's awesome. Well, I'm asking question Just being the devil's advocate Could you run as an openly gay Republican?

Probably not why not Just for the reason I just said because they don't Well, let me put it like this. I'm just gonna say probably now. I'm gonna let you answer that because you smarter You probably got a better answer for that than me No, I mean, I'm just saying that it is It's like churches want their pastors to be married

But the reality is that Some pastors are having relationships outside of their marriages, but we want the illusion of Family look if if if real talk that person is married to another human being right they deal with the same issues as everybody else Okay, but we like that fantasy. You know, I remember someone was talking about

uh crefalo and taffy dollar oh they just they're just i'm going you ain't at the crib with crefalo and taffy right because those folks are living real lives but we like the illusion we like that that whole idea and maybe and thank god for black lives matter when it comes to this issue black lives matter said that look in america your ideal of family is not reality right it is not

two kids and a dog and a picket fence. That is not the majority of families. Our families are hodgepodge of different things. Everything for everybody having their own daddy. You know, I mean, it's all these things, but we have this sense of what a family we think in our mind should look like, and that ain't what really family is. And I'm not saying this, and I don't want you real deep Christians to go off the deep end. I'm gonna listen to y'all. All right. You know, but

Jesus had half brothers and sisters. Okay. That's a lot of us where we have half brothers and sisters and then culturally in the black community and I'm being, you know, anecdotal, but in the black community, your sins that live in the house is never referred to as a half. Right. It's them says that's not in the crib.

I've never referred to my brother and sister as my half-brother and sister. That's my sister. That's my brother, period. Now part of that, even though we have our own dads, is we live in the same house and my mother, good, bad, or indifferent, make sure we all have the same last name. So the family and what it looks like is changing. Or maybe we're just more aware

of certain things in a way certain families look. You know, I remember one family I was looking like, wow, could that be her dad? Come to find out what her dad. Okay. But he raised her like she was his natural born child. And that becomes the other issue when we talk about is it nature or is it nurture? You know, those people who step up.

I was listening to a conversation yesterday who talked about how people might have been raised by a grandmother or aunt, right? I mean, my grandmother was raised by her aunt. That's what she called mama, right? Because that was the person who provided that parental role in her life. So I think that when people get out and we had this Euro-centric model of what a family looks like, we realized that ain't the reality.

Right. Thank the reality. All right. All the great things going on downtown. You know what? It's a Miss Pat show. Uh, talk about how, you know, the show is kind of, you know, they talk real, you know, real, like black family, like with it, cussing and all that. But it's, it's similar to me, like what goes on every day. And they bring, they talk about real issues, but it's how, you know,

Calling, you know, she would call out her daughter. She knows she gay. You like this and that more than you like this. But it's stuff that you hear around your neighborhood when you hear somebody cussing out their kids. And that's what I like about the show. But a lot of people don't like the show because of what she say in the show. But that's black life to me. Everyday black life. So being cussed out by your mama. Yeah. That's happened to me once or twice.

Don't do no cursing. He tried to calm everything down. Oh, okay. You got the reckless mouth. Oh, okay. So the daddy is the voice of reason. Right. Right. All right. Let's do this before I get the call. I'm gonna do the break because I know we're running long. All right. Hey, you're listening to Community Voice Caller. I see you. We'll grab you right after the break with your host Keith Parrish. I have a question. Yes, sir.

If a dude's name is Junebug, is he in trouble? Most likely. Either he in trouble or he's a troublemaker. No, I mean, every Junebug, I know. Every single Junebug. Uncle Junebug? Yeah, he got in trouble back in the day. Especially Uncle Junebug. I swear. I just wonder if you're Junebug, you know, you got the name for a reason.

I'm telling you, I should look up and see what a Jew bug is. I just wondered, like, if there's certain nicknames that you kind of go like, uh-oh. Oh, yeah, he's trouble. Jew bug. Pookie. Pookie can go either way. Man, you hear Pookie, you're like, yeah. Because, you know, like, I'm one of the cool dudes, I know. Winston Williams is a Pookie. So, I mean, you know, Pookie can go either way. Well, first of all, anybody with two W's in their names, Winston Williams, you know, he came in too bad. That's a junior.

He's a Winston, Williams, Junior. I think Junior. What would Jesus... No, I was just thinking about Junebug though. You know, like, hey man, what Uncle June doing? You know what Uncle June doing? Poncho, you know, my Uncle Money. You know my Uncle Money doing? You already know. My favorite Uncle too, by the way.

My uncle money was my favorite. Man, he was he was so funny. You already know what he's doing. Welcome to the program. Good morning. Good morning, my man. I had to call you back because George was saying something about the grinder crashed out. And that's my understanding is a gay out.

Yeah, and you see that the republicans crashed it downtown here in new walk-ins from other states Listen, I want you to understand something to place the anti-gay At the feet and make them believe the republicans the face of that is really a totally unfair thing because that's true. I don't want so no one is gay Republicans there is gay democrats

Just look at how many openly gay Republicans do you have? I can't hear you what you said. How many openly gay Republicans do you have? I don't know. I don't know. Then it's as many as Democrats. OK, because I'm finished here with you. Let me give you an example then. If you look at proposition eight out in California, they put it on the ballot. Same sex marriage or gay marriage be accepted. It was shot down. OK, the first time.

and all of those weddings that you know who you know who was responsible for that? The Mormon church and black people. Okay. Hold on. Can I say who shot it down? So that tells me that there were Democrats that were opposed. There were just as many Democrats that were opposed to this thing too. Amen. Just because you were Democrat don't mean you accept certain lifestyles. Okay. All I'm saying is that and I can only speak for black folks. I can't speak for Mormons.

I can speak for black folks. We have queer people in our families. I'm not twisting narrative. That's a reality. Because the thing is, when you talk like that, you want us to become the black man to be the black face for gayness. It's not going to happen, man. I'm not on my watch. They're not going to be the spokesperson for a strong black man.

Okay, and that's why you be a strong black man and you can let me ask you. Can you be a strong black man and be gay? No, why not? Why not? Because it defies actually the law of nature, okay?

Okay, man, see one reason why you go gay because I don't know. I don't know why so people do certain things, but okay, I know one thing I was in the question with your man here. Some of the strongest black men I've ever met are gay black men. They're not strong, but they are strong. Not only do they have to deal with being a black man,

They have to deal with being a gay. They got a gay man. They got a double whammy. Why do you have to be, if it's righteous, if it's right to be? They ain't got nothing to do with righteousness. That's your perspective. But I'm making the argument that, you know, because we got a whole, and we don't talk about this all the week straight black man we have out here. You don't talk about those brothers? You know what you said the other day, and I was listening to you. You were talking about a TV program.

And he said, that's what a weekend boy with judges. He was a pretty boy. He was. He was. That's why we got brother. He still is pretty. Why didn't you say that? He can't get so pretty with the pretty man. I'm sorry, man. I mean, I didn't say, I didn't say I wanted to kick him, brother.

I didn't say I wanted to kick it with him. I was just saying he was pretty. Why would a man look at another man and say he's pretty? If I am secure in my manhood.

I don't have a problem complimenting another brother. If you could look at brother, you don't compliment him by saying he's pretty. You don't compliment him by saying he's pretty. Why would you tell me how? He's going to come in with any girl. He won't do that. Ricky's what they call it. He was pretty. He was pretty. Oh my God.

Oh my goodness. Men are not to be pretty, man. Men are not to be fine. It is not for you to set a standard of what a man is or isn't. You're not. I'm a man. Then you set that standard for me. You can't set that standard. I set that standard for all men. No, you can't. Me and a man, brother. Who appointed you and gave you the power then to do that?

It's been handed down brother from generation to generation. Matter of fact, we don't been on this generation. We don't been on these claims for about three, uh, probably about. I'm not, have you ever, have you ever, have you ever seen, have you ever seen a good looking black man? I've probably seen a handsome young man that probably can drive a boy. He might shave a beard or something. And that, and that'll get, that'll get a ball. That'll catch a ball.

But I'm not if I'm not going to make it him and say he pretty man Pretty rick is what they call it. Ricky what they call it. Okay. Well, that's pretty Ricky. Pretty Ricky won't just say he's pretty, you know, if he want to be called pretty, let him be pretty. No, I'm so with me myself. Listen to this here. You know what I'm saying with me is shaving. They are calling so pretty. Muhammad Ali Muhammad call himself pretty morse day.

You got a problem with Muhammad Ali being pretty? Brother, brother, but you have to look at the way they was playing, they swag, running, they swag. I'm not going to sit down and say, oh, that's a pretty young man right there. You playing those games. All right, I appreciate you. I'm going to ask you to take a vacation to Atlanta. Oh, no, you don't want to do that. So you're going to come back different. Pull up to the scene with your silhouette. And I'm trying not to like, but.

As soon as you hit the airport, you go, you know, there are a lot of gay black men in Atlanta. I'm talking about Shu Shu and Sweat. And that ain't good, bad or it differs. That's just the reality. But there's a reason for that. And I think, but let me get back to this whole idea of what masculinity and manhood is. This idea that somehow if you're gay, you're weak.

That's a myth. It sure is. It's a myth. I saw some cats. It don't, because we have this false concept of what it is to be a man. I mean, I can look and do, and I'm sure this dude was pulling all kinds of women, right? That pretty Puerto Rican. Yeah, part of me going like, man, I wish I looked like that, so I can pull. Call and welcome to the program. Good pulling power.

Good morning. Thanks for taking my call. It seems like the last caller is doing a lot of whining. He's whining more than BB and CC. No, you didn't. No, you didn't. That was a good one. That was a good one.

I'm glad that Devo cleared it up about Russell's being black owned because it was black owned and I remember as a kid in 1968 I used to walk to Russell's store and trade in empty soda bottles and All of the people that was in authority at the store were white. So as a kid, I knew the store was white owned and

If you came to Milwaukee later on in the 70s, you wouldn't know that but there was a lot of black owned Stores that was competing against Russell's Especially the store called Dix and Malone's and there was a corner store not not far from Garfield Park called Peters and So that's just my comment, but that last caller

He might be a part of the wine and family I mean But you know what back in the day when somebody was like that in the family it was a hush-hush secret Yeah, you know say in it in the start coming out to like the two thousand, you know Well 90s and 2000 but it was always a hush-hush secret in the black family. Well, just like what keep just said

To have that in your mind that because you're a gay or whatever the issue is that you're weak You will fool yourself and you will find yourself Floating face down in the mainstream to some of these cats at the end of the day they still men and and and will put hands on you and then shoo shoo away And maybe we've gotten to this point that

And a lot of it is America is still a very homophobic country. It really is. When he was sitting up saying that that whole thing on on Prop 8 out in the Mormon church put a lot of money in defeating that and they knew how that resonates with black folks. As a matter of fact, this last election, you know, they were talking about trans.

right? And people automatically put trans in LGBT. That's the T in LGBTQ. And people are going like, oh, no, because we're homophobic, man. It's hard for us to, I learn all of, it's like I used to say to folks, I don't have a problem with my gay.

is them other gays I have a problem with, right? So the person that's directed my choir, the person who's playing the organ at my church, the person who I might work with, I got a different level of relationship, but at the same time, I'm trying to understand that. And for black men, because we already deal with a certain level of insecurity when it comes to our manhood, any little thing.

becomes a threat to our manhood. I think part of it is if you free your mind, right? And the rest will follow. The rest will follow, and that's part of it. And people gonna use scripture to justify it. And I say the same scriptures that you're using to justify your problems with gay folks is the same scriptures that tells you not to eat lobster. And you are sitting up here bragging.

About all the loss to tell you eat so I think when we go to people who are different We're talking about 10 to 15 percent of the population It's easy then to attack people and if we get back to this whole set and I wish it was Euro century It is that the same thing is happening in Africa same thing is happening in Asia same thing is happening in South America where men because men are insecure

We're insecure and so that's why power becomes so important because a lot of times and Donald Trump is the greatest example of an insecure in Individual who's then projecting this sense of strength when in fact he knows he's weak He knows he's an adequate. Yeah, so then you just go to the opposite of that But I think we have to look at what makes a man a man as a man steps up to his Responsibility if you doing that, I don't care who you love the bottom line is

Are you stepping up and being responsible? All this other stuff, you know where you gonna kick your gay son and daughter out, but your son who made five kids he ain't taking care of still can come and eat a Thanksgiving. What's wrong with that picture? There's a lot wrong with that picture. And that's more, that's more direct and hurting black folks, people not taking care of their kids, right? Then the fact that somebody loves somebody of the same sex. So y'all want to have a real conversation about it.

You know, like, you know, your son who went to prison five times, but your gay son, you kicked out the crib because they was gay. It was something that Monique said. She said, this is why I have a problem with the church. She said that it was the church that taught her grandmother to hate her gay aunt, right? It was the church who taught her to hate her own flesh and blood. Well, well, do you think, do you think that it was that she hated her?

or hated her ways. It don't matter. It don't matter. Yes, it does. Yes, it does. The only way, let's say the girl did everything she's supposed to do. Go to college, get a degree, do everything she's supposed to do. But the whole thing that negates all of that is she loves a woman the same sex. Hold on, listen. So, no, what? No, no, no. I mean, because if we don't have the conversation, that's how the real conversation. Now, I can love you and not like what you do.

for an example, just using this as an example. Say we're Ken folks. I love you as my cousin, but you're a crackhead. I don't like that to what you do. So crackhead is different. But but but but but just I'm just using it as just to paint the picture of it's not that I don't like you. I don't like what you indulge. That's me.

Who I love is me I get that separate who you love from you No, but listen to what I'm saying whether that's gay or straight. I get it But what I'm saying is just cuz you gay that don't mean that I have to like it I have to love it. No, I can love you as a person, but I don't like your way Do you do you have a problem with who your straight friends love? Yeah, cuz if she and you're not gonna be

They're friend. No, no, no, no. No, that's a different standard. But I didn't say that to what I'm saying. OK, let's reverse this thing. A straight friend, right? They dating somebody that who I feel like they shouldn't date. I'm just using it as an example, who they shouldn't date because whatever's happening, you know, maybe this person is cheating or whatever. OK, I don't like that you're doing that. However.

I still love you as a person, but I don't like what you are indulged in. So that that's too. Why? Why? Why? For first of all, gay or straight, right? Why should it matter to you who I love? It don't matter. However, it does matter because we have this conversation. Wait, wait, wait, because again, it's a thin line.

So, it ain't that it matters. It ain't that it matters. It's just the fact of I have. It does matter though. No, I have an opinion. And now, if my opinion don't matter, that's different. But you can't take my opinion. I ain't, I ain't fell out with none of my buddies. For some of the situations, my straight buddies, they found themselves in. But, but, but if you see, I can identify with them.

because I identify with that could be me. I see myself in them. I don't see myself in that my gay friend. No, I don't see myself. Sexually, I don't. And that's a problem. And so because I don't see myself, because I don't understand same sex attraction, then it's easy for me to sit up and say, I don't like your way. Oh, the one I'm saying, Keith, is this. Okay.

All right, something on fire. They're in a hurry. So what I'm saying is this, because we all are entitled to our own opinion, right? So that's like a pair of shoes like you might have on. And I'm looking at your feet and I'm like, man, I like your shoes, but I don't like that shirt, whatever that you got with it. So it ain't that I don't. You had a problem.

have a it's not that I have a problem with my shoes. I just don't like the shirt that you put with the shoes. So it's the it's the it's the same. It's different. You know it. You know it's different. I'm telling you it's a doc. Listen to what I'm saying. I have listened. So let me ask this question. Are you going to use some Bible to talk about my outfit?

Well, well, I don't know what I mean, but you're not you know, you're not gonna get the Bible Okay scripture says that I you should not be wearing one way you're not gonna have that conversation You are gonna have that conversation. I'm just saying the scripture do speak against homosexual lifestyle. So if we don't go there doc

And it also speaks against war blends. And it also speaks about eating lobster. Yeah. And it also speaks about touching a woman on her period. Okay, well, hold on. All these things, we go like, ah, but did Jesus say that?

Oh man, thank you. It's this stuff that this one Jesus did. This is a 455 foot home run. Okay. Show me any scripture Jesus talked about specifically homosexual. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. You better, before you hold me on. Okay. Hold on. Listen to what I just asked you. Hey, hey Keith. Ask, is there any scripture in the Bible where Jesus specifically talks about same sex relationships? Give me a second.

Okay, you're going to need more than a second. Are we on call? Yes sir. Caller, run me to the program. Good morning. Good morning gentlemen, how you guys doing? I'm doing all right for a black man living in America. How are you sir? Oh wow, you trippin' now because I'm all right with a black man in America who's got a weapon put in the grave.

But let's talk about this pretty Ricky and pretty Cody. Pretty Ricky. But let me share something with you. You know, you can take a masculine man, you know, and he out and you're not my daughter. If you talk to my daughter and you sit down and pretty, she doesn't know, but he show handsome. You know, but he do got some pretty feet. But look here.

had them pretty and masculine. Hold on, man. When you go down in the land, me and my mom was down for a family reunion one time, we was in the underground. And let's see, you know, it was full of those people, right? And she said- White people, white people? Yeah, gay people, gay people. Oh. And she said, baby, what happened? She said, well, we act.

Mama, we in Atlanta. She said, uh, wow. It was practically, we ended up being on track week. And these guys are muscle bound, makeup, eyebrow arches, uh, fingernails. I mean, the whole shebang. And mama said, son, let's, let's just go. I said mama was gone. She said, keep that.

You know, I'm gonna tell you like this. You know, you could be what you want to be, but you don't impose if somebody look at you and you say, thinking they judging you, judging that, and then they want to have a nasty attitude. You, because you choose to have this sexual appetite, you can't make nobody look like that. God loves you for who you are. Okay, he loves you. Pure, simple. But at the end of the day,

You want to be a dog or you want to be a cat or you want to call yourself? He not he but they are them. Don't call me her or him They are there I Got a right. I have the right to be addressed the way I want to be addressed First of all, I'm uncomfortable with equating

Humanity with non-humanity that that that's problematic for me

my guy, but you can't impose your sexual appetite your way. They're not doing they just saying how you should address me. That's different than try me. I'm not gonna call you hard. Okay. Okay. I mean, I don't know. You want to be addressed a certain way. Am I correct? And so then that you said that to say what?

Because you're a man that you should be addressed the way you want to be addressed, but if you're gay you cannot be addressed the way you want to be addressed But I guess the question is Why am I imposing a standard on someone else?

Okay, okay, but that ain't all that goes into what makes us men and women

What about people who choose not to? If she decides not to have a child, does that define her as a woman? Okay, and you're saying that to say what?

Okay, but you you making it sound like that's the primary or the only reason why we have sex with women is to produce children Okay, I talk about what's supposed to be So so I'm saying when when I get down with a woman, I'm not Okay, I want to say something that's straightforward. Okay Anytime you have sex with an individual it's actually a miracle

Okay, okay, and it's and you marry in that person Okay before God's eyes on the reason why we go to the office until our friends Would that would that make you a polygamist? Okay, but I'm saying

How many wives did he hate? But I want to answer your question. Before we get to Solomon, let's get back to what you just offered. You said that every time we have sex, it's like marriage. OK, so then that would make some of us polygamous then, wouldn't it? It sure would. OK. Now let's go back to Solomon.

No, I ain't got nothing to do with Solomon. I ain't got nothing to do with Solomon. Don't we put that on Solomon? No, we don't. No, we don't go here. Because the Bible says that he's the one. By the way, if you read your Bible, you will find that polygamy was commonly practiced as a matter of fact. And it was. And it was. And it was. But I mean, you make the argument that every time we have sex with somebody, it's like a marriage. It's a marriage. Man, that would.

What bond is that? No, you you you you you are you are bonded and this is why so many women and dudes end up acting crazy after you have said Clark You got all convoluted here with

It's about marriage within, I'm saying that if that's the case, then we are, and you know, it's against the law to practice polygamy in America. You do know that, right? It is, but guess what? How many wives do you have?

That's you talking. I've never used that standard, but that's you, bro. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Those that talk don't know. And those that know don't talk. So, yeah, you know. That's your standard. And now you're going to have some splitting to do with all those wives you get out there.

You better go reduce the reputation and care from your way. Yeah, we're a little late now because of what we're talking. 50, 60, 100. All those wives, you got. So let me ask you this question. Are all those wives going to show up for your funeral? Or is it going to be a mess? They might. I'm just like, no, I'm just like. They ain't going to be a mess. So guess what? Why do fools all in love? Let me tell you what my advocate is about, guys, too.

They say, okay, I got his wife and I got his wife and I got that wife. They two business fighting each other, they ain't fighting me. And I was watching this, oh man, I was watching this movie. It was in a movie. And dude, dude was African, right? He ended up kicking it with his daughter's roommate. What? Right? What?

Him and his wife. Oh man, I gotta go man. Y'all gotta mess me up on this too. Let me thank Clark Kent. Let me thank Mr. Ride Out. Let me thank Meach and Meach. Hopefully tomorrow you'll feel better. Every time you have sex, it's marriage.

Well, no, I mean, but I do understand that point of view because you are tying into that person and that's why someone when you have sex with some of these people is hard

They call for this place to be.