Exploring Music, Faith, and Community with Keith Parris

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Exploring Music, Faith, and Community with Keith Parris

Community Voice · Mon Sep 28, 2026

He too late. I was late. But you know what though? I know this man that you always leave out that Kojic third verse to that song and that is back back train and get your load Yeah, back back train my first memory of Al Green was back up train. Yeah, I don't know nothing about that Back up train You don't know a little something about that

Yeah, Backup Train by L. Green. But it was beautiful. And I, you know, right out you would have certainly appreciated it because the choir was acapella. And let me say this, and I remember having this conversation with Bishop Hines a few years ago.

And I was, you know, we're just talking about music and I complimented him. I think he's one of the real great songwriters. And I said, but you know, gospel like jazz is when you talk about music theory is wrong, right? And the story I told was the late Thomas Wattley at his funeral, a young man got up and he said, you know, Thomas teach me Thomas couldn't play.

I said wrong Thomas played the way it was written Gospel will take it and we do it half-step notes. I mean it's the improvisation of how we how we do the music and One of the things that you get when you sit and you listen to the fist Jubilee singers is that first of all in the music director pointed out this is a class and they had

Music vocal music majors in that group and then it was really diverse group in terms of majors But learning how to sing you can have a great voice and not know how to sing You're breathing all those things that go in to being able to do the note and then what gospel R&B then you can do riffs and things like that and that's look

beautiful but when you sit down and you actually go like when they're teaching you music theory when they're teaching you voice they're teaching you how to use your voice right how you can you can do certain things I was listening to an interview that Tremaine Hawkins did and they was asking her about her singing and she said one of the things I did was I actually went back to school right to learn how to

Do you know our vocalization? Right like a lot of times people yell This is public speaking. I hate you know, that's why that song why you yelling at the Lord is so So real a lot of different levels. There's one thing to project your voice. There's another thing to yell Yeah, that is how you use your voice and so it was obvious how well trained these young folks were

And then, you know, we're talking young, young adult voices, which is, you know, probably when you get to the thirties, they're going to be at their apex in terms of just the full effectiveness of their voices, but to be able to hear that, to be able to hear the intricate parts. And then it says something about our ancestors, that when they were putting together what we call Negro spirituals, how complicated it was.

Right when you look at the complications in terms and what I mean by complicated is the tone I mean the different parts from bass to tenor To soprano to alto they could hack or turf it was amazing and there was two young ladies who were Sopranos and the other voices were great, too But this one young lady is a soprano If she ever wanted to do opera this young lady could do opera. I mean just just

Again knowing how to use her voice. I think she was a senior and I and I and I said this that when I was at Metropolitan Los Andra, right Bryant would sing over my shoulder basically I'm sitting in the pulpit I could hear and how pure her voice was and what I mean by pure it was I'm talking about she's young

Now she's made adjustments based on the music, depending on what she does. But to be able to hear that level of soprano in the Church of God in Christ, there are no people who know your little musical history know that there was a woman named Sarah Jordan Powell, who was out of Houston, Texas, an incredible soprano, Sandy Patty, an incredible soprano. And then when you look at Sandy Patty, she studied voice.

And so all I'm saying is that it's great a lot of times I hear people saying beautiful voices, but don't always know don't always know how to Sing right how to use their voice how to project the other thing that I loved about this group was and I was wondering why they were looking at each other They were looking at each other to be able to hear each other Right, you know like you're hearing

what the other because your part is dependent on what the other part is doing so you need to be able to hear that other part to make sure that you have blend and again they did this acapella right or as we used to call it alcapoco uh to be able to hear that and and i just i just love good choral music i love symphonic music i i love when you can do layers um

In the making of Motown, they show how Marvin Gaye put together what's going on and how intricate the layering is in that song. That's what our ancestors did. And so to be able to hear that history being able to be performed, they said they'd do a concert, pre-commencement concert down at Fisk, which

which they do a full repertoire. They just need growth, spirituals. I know the kids want to do, you know, they want to do contemporary music. I think I saw that when the one time I saw the Russ College and just understanding the history of the Jubilee Singers, Jubilee Singers was formed as a fundraiser for Fisk University. Fisk was going to close, found out another interesting piece of history there about Fisk University. It is the oldest university in Nashville.

black or white. They were formed in 1866 and there are other schools down there. That means they're older than Vanderbilt, right? They're older than, what is it? I always get it, Naveca Nazarene, some of the other schools that are there, Tennessee State. So it was just a great evening.

to watch a kothi dancers and they did a whole thing about harvest and planning and reaping and be able to tell the story and movement now here's the thing about african dance that's different than ballet african dance is really based on movement where if you look at ballet ballet is based on form and music that's why ballerinas

and male belly have a certain body type, right? Because it's the form. They're really doing the form and what that looks like where African music is really based on movement, right? You know, like we do movement. And I would like to, and maybe I should have did a little research on this. I wonder, you know, everybody talk about the soul train line and what that looks like.

I think that's pretty African. You know, where, you know, and then everybody has a chance to, to kind of sign, you know, do your little individual thing when people come down and come down the soul train line. But it really was. And so let me apologize for the people that had to wait for me. Obviously, I wasn't by myself, but I had to wait for me. I apologize for that because if nothing else, people know I'm very functional, but I know it's going to be tight. And I'm glad we took that bus.

Let's do now going up. We really did feel like we were going through the Underground Railroad because he took us through the back part where we went in And I saw so much corn We saw so many cornfields But to go and then here's the other thing you know, you know, we we're in a silo here in Milwaukee But when you're out there drive driving these backcountry roads in Wisconsin

and be able to see the level of poverty that's out in these areas. We don't talk about it, right? But yeah, it, so that was good. And I'm glad he did that because we went and you go up in the Kettle Moraine, you're going up in Hills and everything.

But, yeah, and driving back would have been like, ooh, because it was about an hour and 20 minutes. And it was dark. It was dark. Going through those dark areas. Now, coming back, we didn't go through a whole lot. He got us, because we figured, why don't we do 3943 coming down? But I don't know if he wanted to give us a scenic view going up, but going back, yeah, we got on the interstate. So do you think that maybe he was trying to scare y'all? No. No. He was like, man, let me take you through these.

through these towns and sundowns. No, I think I think I think it's good to see and part of me was saying, you know, I need to go out and just travel, you know, just visit these different out state communities because one, some of these areas are very beautiful. Like Wisconsin is a beautiful state. If you ever driven out state, it is beautiful. You know, Rhonda was talking about how beautiful it was. She was up in Green Lake last week and just how beautiful it is. So.

I think we do that, we just, we're here in the city. I know from time to time I'll drive to Holy Hill, so I can be closer to God. On the hill? On the hill. Yeah, and then, you know, here's another irony in my education, wasn't planned that way. In Nashville, I went to American Baptist College. We were on the hill. Obviously, when I went to Mount St. Mary's, we're on the mountain, so.

My education truly is higher education because I was on Hills when I was in school. So who would've thunk it? Carla, welcome to the program. Good morning. Good morning. Hey, Solis. Hi. When you asked Clark Kent about how you went first stage job, job.

I can't have. First thing popped into my mind was burning that. Yeah. Yeah. And you sound like burning that. But anyway, um, I forgot what else I was going to say to you, too. Too long for me to get to the phone, Mr. Paris, even though it's your show. And I'm going to drop my phone mic. All right.

Why is she yelling at me? First of all, why are you yelling at me? My phone don't even work. So, I don't even know she was out there. You need to blame it on the superduper producer. Hey, blame it on the rain. This is raining before. Call her. Welcome to the program. Good morning. Good morning. I'm doing well.

Good. This is Stanford Nelson calling. Thank you so much for the shout out for your wife and WNLB family. And the concert was just beautiful off the chart. The angelic voices of the kids and the professionalism and the things that are being taught needs to be spread all over the country. I'll bless you guys and appreciate you. You do the great work, man. Thank you so much. Thank you and good seeing your wife again.

And she pointed out to me. She listened. She doesn't call, but he did. Yeah. So I, I, I do. Thank, thank you again. It was, it was Wanda, your Wanda, your wife, uh, charming, beautiful lady. Tell her we said hi. I sure will. Thank you so much. Right. All right. Take care. Um, let me say this though, because I am a hater. Look, Kofi, I didn't come to, I didn't come to work.

Kothi at the end had people up doing dance steps and singing songs like, hey, hey, I say the same thing when I go to a rap concert. I paid to see you work. I didn't come to work. But that was participatory. And because we were able to actually, you know, which was really cool in terms of our ticket, we could, there was the one or two, the two drummers.

for Kothi came in and explained drumming, explained how drums put together, the materials used. And then at the end of the program, we were able then to do a Q&A with the Fifth Jubilee Singers. But there was a question. There was a young man who sings with the Fifth Jubilee Singers. And he is from Logos, Nigeria.

And my question, and I didn't get a chance to ask, but if I would have asked him, I said, how do you, for us, we're descendants of enslaved Africans in the diaspora, right? So this is our immediate history. For him, he's basically coming in and learning history. And I guess it would be the same as someone studying opera and, you know, again, that European form of music.

But I wish I would have had a chance to ask him, how does he, how do they, because Negro spirituals are unique to Africans in the Western Hemisphere and the diaspora, you know, it was created. I know when I was talking to Keegan, she was talking about how a lot of this was work songs, right? Got you through the day. Johnny Cash talks about being a sharecropper.

and when they were out in the fields and they would sing the songs, work songs, right? That got you through the day. It was also an ability to vet. It was also aspirational. You know, how many of those songs was talking about Jesus coming because they were looking for Jesus to come to get us out of enslavement?

Right? You're looking for the Messiah. So it was history was important. And then to be in this high school, former high school, it was the original high school there in Jamesville. Oh, my God, that auditorium. And they've done mixed use on it. It's a performing arts center where the auditorium is. I'm assuming where the gym was. And then over where the classrooms are is housing. So it was a great trip. I'm glad I went.

I think we need, I think we need to do more. And certainly to support when Russ College and other colleges come, get one to get out and hear the music, but two is also an opportunity to support those institutions. You know, a few years ago, Fisk was on the verge of closing, right? Because of financial difficulties. So for, see Fisk make the turnaround that she's made. And then, you know, I shout out some of their distinguished alumni, Nikki Giovanni,

W. E. B. Du Bois, and again, locally, our alma lele cogs are all proud graduates of Fisk University. As a matter of fact, Nikki Giovanni got kicked out for a semester because of her activism there at Fisk University. And that was one of the things, even at American Baptist College, where John Lewis, Bernard Lafayette, James Bevels, these guys, now how to ask?

Did they get kicked out of school because of the protests? Because other students were getting kicked out of colleges because of protests during the civil rights movement. They said they didn't. John Lewis, I think he said he ended up transferring the FISC. So it's our history. And we should know our history and certainly celebrate our history.

I would love to, if I had the money, you know, where you could go in and really teach choirs how to sing, you know, where you really do the vocal piece and people coming in telling you how to use your voices. It's that. Let me do this. Tell me what you all think. I value books. I value books.

You know, I did to me my love language is books if you love me buy me a book, right? I am I am the dude of the books and We give each kid at our church Bibles right age appropriate Bibles that we give to the young folks So I did something in the fellowship last week I said if

You bring your Bible. I will give you $5. How do you guys feel like? How do you feel about that? Well, I think strategically, that's smart. I don't think it's a bribe or anything like that. It is. I think it's more of a, what is it? I'm not an incentive.

that if you do this, I'll give you this. So it's more like, you know, nowadays, just to look at it, just from the spiritual aspect of things, Satan is strategically doing things to get our young people and some of the Christian folks are still operating under the old way of trying to reach people. And you can reach

the young people that way in today's society, like how you was reached back in and not saying you, but just saying just the elderly in the 40s, 50s, 60s and 70s and 80s times are different. So if you want to get them in, you have to have some type of incentive to bring them in and and, you know, keep their attention. So if I say, hey, if you bring your Bible, I give you five dollars, I guarantee you, you're going to see a room full of Bibles.

because they want that incentive. Well, I asked one of the young people at the church, I said, is five dollars too low? What could you buy with five dollars? But when I announced it, you could see, I mean, even the high school kids were like.

Hey doc, listen here man, with these guys prices, I'm bringing 90 Bible. Give me all five for each Bible. My wife loves me, so she gets up behind me and go, that's my shoe running. Welcome to the program.

Good morning. Good morning. Can I show you my Bible through my phone? Oh. Get that phone. Get that phone. No, you don't. And I expanded it, Solis. I said, if they have a Bible app on their phone. Yeah. No, but you know what? I wanted to say this, Keith. That is such a great.

incentive that you put up on you know like for the kids to bring a book actual book because you can look up like you said you taught me about Did I look up something? I was using AI and I didn't understand it at the time and I do do that because I'm not familiar with the terminology of laptop but anyway Yeah, put them to actually bring a book and read it

And, you know, because even with just the Bible, it's things that they're not being explained to them. Like, you have a ton of knowledge in your brain. And I was just thinking, this man should make recordings of all the things that you know. I mean, you could just learn so much. You know, I learned so much just listening to you. And, you know, it is wonderful.

And yeah, I think that's a great idea, you know. And the fact that I want them to value that. But add something else. Give them some assignments that has to be handwritten with paper and pencil and pens. Bring them back to old school days. You know, you might be able to supply some of the paper, give them one sheet or two, and then it gives them a question to answer it.

not, you know, memorized, but handwritten. I want to hear what you, I want you to read what you wrote. That brings back memories of the Bible. What was the school that we just doing in the summertime? Oh, the Vacation Bible School. Vacation Bible School, yeah. Yeah, but in any area, it is start teaching them how to write. People do not know how to write. They do not know how to do handwriting, cursive writing.

And I wanted to ask you, could I throw back Thursday because I have a doctor's appointment? My thing is, okay, George Burns did, oh God too. Yeah, I love George Burns. He did the original, oh God. Yeah, the original. And I think it was made three times. But anyway, with him. All right, thanks y'all for listening to me. I thought that was ironic that God would be Jewish.

Well, it was the Jewish people who introduced the concept of monotheism. So, yeah, maybe, maybe God might be, I don't know if God is Jewish. So, like, what if, what if God was Mexican? I should know. I'm gonna do works today.

All right, you're listening to Community Voice. Again, I disavow any racism.

We don't use those terms anymore. It's something about deceit. Yeah, I mean Yeah, so maybe God certainly God doesn't have a gender right and God doesn't have an ethnicity but what if Chinese Mexican African white the what if it's all in one I Think it is

Mean he created everything she sure did Alright welcome back. Let's uh, we're getting comments here kind of go back up. Let's see. Oh boy. Oh boy Okay, happy this notice. Did you go with us?

NPS should build in their field trip curriculum to take the students to Milton House. I agree with that. Okay, burrito button. Okay, come on, y'all. Keep scrolling down. Man, okay. Let's see, keep scrolling down because now let's get into Jackson and Loop. What is that?

Okay, if God was a Mexican and one of Moses' plagues against Pharaoh would have been... Cockroaches. Cockroaches. Well, yeah. Yeah, that would be... Cockroaches. What is that called? Infection. When you have a... have insects, there's... Okay, we can do that. Let's say I had training beaver dam last month. I had to go to Pine Lake.

Sometimes I pray that the car doesn't break down beautiful country, but Keith is right. Some of those towns are really poor. Yeah, I mean you you don't You don't we have a tendency and that's by design So then you don't have the same reaction at I did go get over to community brainstorming Saturday I was there for the the first first hour and

Act 20 came up, and I guess there's something in terms of what they're going to be doing in terms of education. And it was something that Dr. Myers pointed out. She said, you know, it wasn't an issue until white kids couldn't read, right? And now we're going. And so now there's debate. And I'm not a pedagogist. I haven't been trained in childhood education. So for me, I can only do it from a perspective of.

political science policy but it was a fascinating discussion and it took me back to my brief career as a college recruiter and this whole idea of do we get an education for vocation that means for job training or do we do education for its own sake that means just the love of reading the love of learning and you know because they were talking about books and

And again, and this is part of and this is even before I went to this when I was with young folks at Part of our youth fellowship is to understand that The value of learning the value of education How important that is and and and again some of some of the

Some of the brightest people I've ever met, and there was a former school principal who kind of pointed this out where we say where our parents weren't literate. They were. Literacy was very different for them, but this idea of information and how important information is and learning. Kareem Abdul-Dubar tells the story growing up where his aunt would come over and sit with her brother.

And they would smoke Winston's and read and never say anything to each other. They just sit there reading together. So, and then I want to say this to descendants of enslaved Africans. It was illegal to teach enslaved Africans to read. And then we come up with this real pejorative thing. If you ever want to hide it from black people, put it in a book, this idea. And so when you hear me make the argument about the importance of matter,

Right the importance of facts People that's great when it was so disheartening if if I have someone in this age who will sit up and say that Voting is not important and they're gonna put it as a question of they're gonna put it in the hands of the Lord God doesn't vote You do and the impact of you voting or not voting is not gonna impact God like it's gonna impact you and me so question

And when I hear people say that it takes me to the scripture of faith without works is dead and the whole combination of the thing is yeah, you can have faith That he's gonna do it or do whatever but you still have an earthly duty You still have a part you have to do and that falls under the works So you can't just operate and say well, you know and I'm gonna live I don't think God interjects

And our politics, we created politics. We created politics for us. This is how we govern ourselves. You have a responsibility, but see, part of, and this is why Karl Marx said that religion is the opiate of the people. His argument was that sometimes we will use our faith and then that suspends reason and judgment. Faith does not.

eliminate reason and judgment. As a matter of fact, there was something, there was a theory called Newton's Laws of the Gap. I heard my freshman science teacher came up, expressed, and what it was, was Newton says that man can do all these things. His argument was God fills in the gap. I'm just telling you that most of the things that we do are human enterprises, right?

and there is by design for many, many years, white Pentecostals didn't vote. They called that being worldly, even though they were impacted by the things that went on in the world. And so for us to think, and if you believe that, God can, God can, but will God. And our history has shown that it comes down to

us so don't don't because look you can sit up here talk about your faith yeah but if you don't get the required paperwork in for your social security check I don't care how much faith you got you ain't gonna get a social security check so question real quick because I know you got callers but didn't Jesus say render to Caesar that which is Caesar so that was a question about taxes so whether so he understood the worldly principles

of the things that had to happen and that the things that was going on in that time, he understood that and he told them, hey, give them the what's theirs and, you know, rent it to Caesar's to what Caesar's. So that means that's the separation right there. And you have people who sit up and say, well, we we shouldn't pay taxes. You know, tithing was the first tax. Tithing was the first tax. And when you go in and look at what the ties were used for.

In ancient Israel, it was there to support the temple, i.e. to leave ice to priests and then to do charity for widows and children. Read your Bible. So that's what it is. It was a form of people going in to be able to support. Now we can get into what Jesus had an issue with. That's a whole totally different thing about the temple tax. You know, if you talk about the Babylonian captivity and what happened.

Not only was the people who were still in Israel being taxed by Babylon, they were also being taxed by the temple. And then the people in the temple wasn't using the money to go out and to do because people were starving. You know, so yeah, you can't sit it out. Well, you can. I shouldn't say can't. You shouldn't sit it out and don't use your faith as an excuse not to think. I'll say it again. Do not use your faith.

as an excuse not to think. Do we have a caller? Yeah, call. Welcome to the program. Good morning. Hello. Hello. Oh, um, for me, I think faith is an act of listening. And once you listen and like I listen to you and I learn a lot of things, whether I decide to act on that, what I've heard and understood, once I understand it, so people have to be taught.

like you said don't you know i'm basically you know you think i mean you know because like if i if i decide to vote democratic because i've listened to democratic party you know i listened and i'm going to follow what i heard and then i asked on it by voting but anyway another thing that was about the input it's a brand called cello smooth c-e-l-l-o

And it's a beautiful blue. I don't know where I got it from, but the way it whites keep. So when you have an assignment, look up them in-pans because the feel of the in-pans, the children don't have to scratch and tear up their paper trying to write. It just, it glides. I mean, it's what the feel that's in their hands and the type of paper. Cause you can buy any type, any kind of writing paper.

But, you know, the type of paper that will make them, even though it's a subliminal message to them at the time, they're not going to even notice it, but they're going to like the way that they're impending rights. All right. And the type of soft paper that you know, because they're the rights paper that used to be in the Bible. Yeah. So don't forget to look up their impending. All right.

And one day I'll come up there and donate some money so you can keep going with us, because that's a very important assignment. And I love that. They're only getting one time. This is one done. I appreciate it. I mean, I come out for the money. You could just give them lessons to write on paper assignments. Well, you know, one of the things that came up, Angela Harris had mentioned, and I can remember as a kid, like they talked about freedom school. And freedom school.

Now, actually, they had freedom school during the school year, and this was a response to the miseducation of black children. And so they took the kids out of school for a week. They had different people come in. My mama didn't let us go to freedom school because my mama was never, there was never a reason ever to miss school, right? So, well, I didn't really have a chance to go to school. So I'm learning a lot of stuff as I go every day. But anyway, I like the way my aunt can feel. And I believe that you should be the continuum.

of those children, learn how to write, what do you want them to do? I don't understand, you will give them $5 for the Bible. So that's your job, but keep working with them. And that's the order. All right. Call it welcome. Call it welcome to the program. Good morning. Hey, Chief, what's happening? Hey, George. Chief, one of the things that apples mean when Meesh comes on the radio and keeps talking about this 400 year tax thing.

and I think we can all be in agreement with this. Who messed up the tax base here in Milwaukee County? Would you agree with Scott Walker? What? With the tax in and you can't, you cut busting up the unions and the residency thing. Don't you think that he helped mess up the tax, the tax stuff here? No, I think that...

No, it is the revenue sharing formula for the state and the other piece of it is Meach is mixing apples and oranges. They're two different things how I think Statutorily, you can only raise property taxes no more than 2% if it's more than 2% It's based on the number news new housing. It's a complicated formula that they use when he's talking about this 400 year tax what happened was

The Republicans had did this. This is the minimum amount of money that school districts would get from the state, right? They agreed to that, but then they only wanted to do it for a biennium. They only wanted to do it for two years. Governor Evers was able to go in and do some period, do some commas, da da da da da da.

So, theoretically, it would last 400 years. But what he's not telling you is, is saying that you cannot go below this in terms of the amount of money that local municipalities or school districts receive from the state. That's the difference in my mind. And again, I think it's ironic that Tom Tiffany is running an ad where he says seven out of 10 kids in Wisconsin are reading below grade level.

Part of that could be the amount of money that's being spent on education Whenever having the discussion on Saturday, I went back and I did a little research because you know jog my memory During the Cold War this started like in 58 They created something where all this money went into public schools, right and especially in areas like STEM

because America was competing with the Soviet Union for military supremacy in the world, right? And when the Soviets put Sputnik into orbit, then people say, hey, man, we got to get on it. So then we made this enormous investment in our education, right? It costs money to educate kids. Now, when we, when you get on a local level,

When you look at the look at the numbers school districts where they have X number of Special Ed students right learning disabled students I think Milwaukee City of Milwaukee is like 25% and That's usually the case with large urban areas But even then in other areas it could be 10% it could be 13% That type of instruction cost more money

Right. So when, when Meach is calling in, Meach is doing a, a, a, a talking point for the Republican party, right? Where people have this visceral reaction to taxes, but you have to go in and understand what, and then I just saw Whitefish Bay is getting ready to do a referendum for building. Whitefish Bay is one of the more prosperous communities in the state.

Because that's where we are right now because America is not investing when when when they're saying get rid of the Department of Education They also want the funding that goes along with the Department of Education to go away But that's why he put the lady in charge The office that he's got right now and somebody that does not even educated on education exactly So but the reason why I said they keep to is because I maybe I disagree with you a little bit on that

But I do agree with you on the tax revenue basis that Milwaukee does not. We're the engine of this state. And we do not get our fair share back. So when we have to increase our taxes that much, if we want our roads fixed, if we want our life to stay on this stuff, I know I don't want to pay that. But where's the money going to come from? We've got to come from somewhere. And that's why I was saying that I think Scott Walker did a lot of harm.

to Milwaukee with what he did. And I also agree with you on the revenue sharing, because like I said in that post, when we're driving up to Beaver Dam and Pine Lake and all that, and sometimes I go bring it on my way to go, I go by myself, and then I have to spend nights out there. And I'll be praying, you know, some of them small places, you'll be like, man, I hope my car don't break down up in here, because you're gonna be out in no man's land. And you don't know what the white folks might do. Well, let me give an example though for those folks.

because of the war with Iran, the cost of diesel fuel has gone up, correct? That's going to impact school buses. That's going to impact garbage trucks. So the cost of that, the city and the county and the state has to pay for gas for those vehicles. So the cost is going to go up. That wasn't even factored in the budget.

Okay, yes today and I didn't research you yesterday and I think it was at church somebody said it But the truckers are getting ready to go on strikers. Yeah, they've been talking about yep. Is that because of the Ward that's making the cost going up. Yep. Okay. Okay, cuz I didn't research yesterday, but one of our Well, let me let me do this. I have a guest who's here. Okay Thanks for the shout out and that's her name. Thank you Karen Nelson

Thank you, thank you, thank you. Appreciate you and the sister who won the tickets. Thank you for not calling in. Put me on blast about being late. You're listening to Community Words. We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. Y'all just missed the game of on-air chicken. We'll go bleak first.

We're very honored to have a studio with us, Supreme Court Justice Rebecca Frank Dallock. Welcome back. Thank you. Good to be here. I am in my ninth year. I was elected in 2018, April of 2018. So you're up there in terms of seniority. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, after this next election, I will be the most senior.

Person on the court. Does it so does that work the same way as the US Supreme Court like where you sit is based on your seniority? Correct So has it been I mean I've not talked to you about what what is it in terms of being a Supreme Court justice? It's been an honor and Really an amazing opportunity to take a look at the law from like that

higher perspective. I was on the circuit court for 10 years and had the day to day interaction that really impacted that particular family and that particular case. But now to be able to look at it from a higher perspective and look at it as it as the law impacts people all over the state. Does it take you back to law school where you, you know, talk about theories, different applications of the law? I mean, it is definitely more reading and writing.

and more looking at it from that perspective. So in that way, yeah, it is kind of like law school and it feels like law school too because we operate more like a term. So we start up full on beginning of September and are done by like...

beginning of July with those decisions. And then we're ramping up again for the next year. So that feel it feels like school in that way, too. A little bit more inside baseball. So again, you talk about the amount of research, president, all those things impact on how you might arrive at a decision. Yes, absolutely. We the cases. So I guess I'll back it up in terms of how we get our cases. So if you're in court, you are in municipal court for a ticket, you're in circuit court for any number of

things, you know, a divorce or a contract dispute of a criminal case, whatever it is, you have a right to appeal to the court of appeals. And we have court of appeals all over our state. They have to review your case to make sure that it was done correctly.

Then you can ask us to take the case, but there is no right to review by us We can't possibly take all those cases We review the cases that come to us and we look for cases that are where the law is unclear or Undecided or the Constitution which is pretty vaguely written, you know applying those kinds of things and we also look for

cases that are going to impact more than just the people in front of us. And that's what I was going to ask, if it's just impacting Keith, that's probably not going to be considered the same way as it might impact the entire state. Yeah, we look for things that are going to have just a broader application. And so the cases we get are hard. They're not clear. They shouldn't be clear.

or else we probably wouldn't have taken them. So it does take when we sit down, like I was in the coffee shop right before this, just reading through cases, we've got some oral arguments coming up next week, you know, really just wrestling with like, what have we said in the past? What does the statute say? What does the impact of this, you know, all of those things go into the decision? Are we being overly simplistic when we say that courts are there to call balls and strikes?

I think they're there to call balls and strikes, but when you look at a statute or you look at the Constitution, those are words and they may have meant to say something, but it's usually not all there. Like they didn't have any, I'll give you a great example. The Fourth Amendment, we all know people, you know, you don't, you have a right against unreasonable searches and seizures. I don't think the founders who wrote that had envisioned drones.

So now you've got drones or you've got you know this ability to you know, when is that a is that a search at what point is that a search and and What does what do you need in order to do that search? And so I think that it's we have to interpret the law. So when you say called calling bells and strikes, I mean Kind of but it's interpreting the words that are written

And I set up and you talk about the Fourth Amendment. We talked about the Second Amendment. It's hard for me to conceive that the founding fathers had ever envisioned an AK-47. That is hard to conceive. There's a lot of things, right? And then now we've got AI. I mean, what do we do? I don't know how those cases we haven't had a case square on with AI yet. I anticipate they will come, but we will have to take the words that were written.

And the Constitution is a lot older. The legislature can certainly write statutes and amend those to reflect the current time, but sometimes they haven't done that yet. So we're really looking at what we have and trying to interpret it. And I think, and I'm sure when we came in with your interview, when you were running, and I asked the question about, you know, our state Constitution, is the US Constitution static or the living, breathing documents that have to

take into consideration context, time, technology. In my mind, it can't possibly be static. I don't know. You have to grapple with applying that to today's problems. You just do. Even the people that say they're looking at what the founders intended, there were no AK-47s, there were no drones. What do you mean what the founders intended? So then they tried doing some historical

perspective, which they're still doing the same thing. They're trying to apply it to today's time. I really think no matter whether you call yourself an originalist or you call yourself, you know, looking at living, breathing, I think you have to be applying it to today's situation. And the reason why you're here, I just wanted to do that little background.

Because it's rare that people have an opportunity to ever have a conversation with a Supreme Court justice. So appreciate that. This is jury appreciation month? It is. Why is that important? Well, we rely on jurors in our system of justice. I mean, it's pretty incredible when you think about the jury system. It dates back centuries. It's the Magna Carta. It was back then that it was created.

made its way into our Declaration of Independence as one of the reasons why we were declaring independence, because the king was taking away this right to trial by jury, and then it's in our constitutions, both federal and state, and it really puts the hands, it puts control in the people.

It allows the people to be a check on government overreach, to be a check on power, to be a check on the wealthy. We are relying on 12 citizens from the community to determine really important issues for our community. It's pretty amazing. I think it needs to be acknowledged. We've recognized that in September, we're going to thank

for the service they've done and we're going to talk about it so that people understand the importance and hopefully we'll do their part. In Wisconsin, how is one selected to be part of a jury pool? So we use databases that come from driver's licenses and state IDs. So those databases are just randomly

like called to pick people to show up at any given time. What if I had an expired driver's license? Would I still be part of that database? That's a good question. Because sometimes people... Yeah, that's a good question. And I'm not sure the answer, but maybe go get that thing.

The list is actually updated the nice thing about it is we don't just leave it like if you just did it even once a year I think that's maybe not gonna capture everyone so it is updated

frequently um so that that list is then used to to get the people that we were talking a little bit earlier about lot and chance so is that the same thing is randomly selected it is randomly selected and then when you're actually in Milwaukee County obviously we're a very big county so in other counties you might be called right to a courtroom it might be envisioning one particular trial in Milwaukee on any given day there's lots of trial scheduled civil criminal family all of it and

You are put in like a you know, you you're in the holding room and once you're there You're also randomly picked to go up to a courtroom. They just put those names in we Because I think I'm trying to think three years ago four years ago. I was selected Am I reading this wrong a lot of people really don't like the idea of jury duty? I think that people are hesitant for sure when you were selected Did you make it into an actual jury or no, I didn't

But my wife, she did. And she took great joy in being part of the jury. I think they made her the four person. Oh, wow. Yeah, she she she has some great insight. She wanted to. But for me, I just I was going like, oh, I was sitting there and then they told us we could go home. Yeah. And a lot of it really, they said it depends on the day of the week that you're

reporting if you're at the beginning of the week. Yeah, chances are you're probably going to be put on a jury going to be seated. And later in the week, maybe not so much. So I think people are hesitant. And of course, you have to put kind of your life on hold a little bit. You've got childcare and work and all these other things that are, you know, you've got to manage, which is understandable. But again,

Everyone who comes in serves as a juror just brings up their life experience, their background. And it's 12 people who wind up sitting in a room and applying the law and the facts in that case and coming up with a verdict. I mean, it's a pretty incredible process. And it's the one that we rely on.

to do justice in our system. In most cases that go before jury there usually is a disposition either in the affirmative or the negative guilt or innocence. Yes. But then we do have and I think that's what we're dealing with right now with is it Lindsay Slater? I think it's yeah I don't remember the last name but yes I hope it was Clancy. Clancy. Yeah yeah but unfortunately

You have a case like that that makes the headlines, I mean, unfortunate for all kinds of reasons, but that now people think, well jurors don't agree and all that. I would say I only had a couple of times in all my, and I was hundreds of juries that I either, I was a prosecutor, so I'd be either prosecuted or presided over. And I would say just a couple that I can think of where juror couldn't, where they couldn't reach a decision.

um the vast majority of times jurors come together and and reach a decision and do the work and i and i think despite their hesitancy in my experience talking to them after that they really felt like um they could be part of that system and that it was a really meaningful experience because it's uh juries are human enterprise

That means that we bring, you just talked about it, our life experience. Absolutely. Negative or positive. And certainly the OJ Simpson case, there was a concept I'll call jury nullification, right? It could have been, this person could have been guilty of this, but because of past things, people figured that they would use this verdict to send a message. I don't know if that's the case. People are arguing, they just felt like,

the state did not prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. But that, I think that's another thing out there when we begin to talk about, because it is human beings who are in that room.

I wish it was like 12 angry men and Henry Fonda was able to convince everyone but it's difficult, right? Yeah, but but they they do it and it's really a place if you think about it We don't have a lot of places in our society right now where people are talking to each other and kind of putting aside Whatever beliefs or whatever they may have to actually work together to to come to a conclusion And so it is that it is a democracy that is a democracy in action

in much the same way voting is. A lot of people may or may not realize that if you are called for jury duties that it is the law that then your employer has to let you off. Absolutely. They have to let you off for that and they have to let you off for as many days as it takes. Most most trials are short. They really are. They're not this really long

process, most of them. But regardless of how long it is, your employer has to let you off. There are people who, and I know in the past I've done it, who just blow off the jury summons. Why do you think they should report for jury duty? Well, we need them. I mean, if you want to have your peers

It's supposed to be a jury of your peers it requires everybody in the community to really step up and for the reasons We've already talked about it's just it's such an important part of our justice system to have those people and so we need every person to be able to Answer the call answer the summons and to know that they're making a really big contribution I don't think if you serve is it every five years. I it depends on where you are in, Wisconsin

And I meant to look at that, but it's either three or four. Yeah, so you're not going to get called all the time. And also, I would say, because you didn't go all the way up to a courtroom, but even being there in that room is really important, because I had cases that resolved knowing that the jury was on their way up. I had cases resolved when the jury was in the hallway, I'd say more than once. I even had cases resolved when we brought them in.

Sometimes it just takes seeing the jury or knowing that they're there and ready and willing to make the decision that people decide, hey, talk about chance. I'm not going to roll the dice. I'm going to take whatever offer was provided. Is there, can you be compelled once summoned to appear to make yourself available to a jury?

There is a statute that says you can't can be compelled. I don't know that we want to be in the business of forcing people into jury rooms. But that's also why your Appreciation Month is so important just so people, you know, you can see it as an inconvenience. It certainly is. But it's also an invitation.

to participate in a really important part of democracy. And there are a lot of people talk about all these things, and we complain. Certainly, we talk about the criminal justice system, which is a part of it. Then we also have civil cases, correct? Yes, absolutely. We have civil, we have family. A lot of the trials are criminal, but I had certainly presided over a number of civil jury trials that were really important to those people involved. How would a jury be involved in that?

family court? Um, if there was a trial, um, yeah, I mean, they'd have to be, I'd have to think about that. There'd have to be some tangential, um, issue, but we have, we have the right to a civil jury trial in our state, um, in our constitution. Presumably, a divorce could go to a jury? That's a good, that's also a good question because you'd have to have factual disputes, um,

And I'm not sure that that wouldn't be happening in a divorce. Right. Most people in a divorce is usually the judge, the bench, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, they are. But family cases can also be related to other issues that might come into play. Some of them are criminal, like you might have some kind of child neglect or abuse type of...

Case that that I could think of that's criminal that but it relates to family or maybe it's some type of restraining order violation or something along those lines But and so but some of these cases are civil, right? Yeah, the civil cases that I presided over a lot of them were like injuries So you could have some kind of contract dispute or really any any kind of dispute where someone is saying this person harmed me

then the jury is determining, well, was that a harm under the law? And if so, what's the compensation for that, if any? And then I think is it also level of liability can also be determined? It can be because there could be different parties. And so there can be percentages attributed in terms of liability. Yeah, those can be complicated. Those jury verdicts are very complicated. But yes, and that does often come into play with how responsible was this person?

I think maybe that's why probably people would say, let's settle this before we have to go before a jury. Exactly. And you know what? The courts are expensive. When it comes to the civil arena, I think people make a cost calculation at times to determine whether they want to go ahead with taking it to a jury because that means it extends for a more period of time and they have to get expert witnesses sometimes and all of that factors in. Wow.

Supreme Court Justice, Rebecca Dallig. Thank you. Again, this is juror appreciation month and just talk about the importance of us. And it is really, I guess voting is probably our most basic citizenship responsibility, but I'd also think that serving on a jury is also. Yes, it is. And I think it's very much like voting. People need to show up and for it to be strong.

Appreciate you. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Wisconsin State Supreme Court Justice Rebecca Frank Dallett. We thank you again. Good seeing you as well. You're listening to Community Voice. We're going to take a break and we'll be right back with your host, Keith Parris. Before I get to the call, let me kind of. So, Elise, honey, I believe that kids should get a break.

from regular academics when they come to church. Now, we're still gonna learn. I just don't want them to feel like they're in school. See, but can't you, but that's... No, they're gonna learn. I'm not, so we use different ways of teaching. Yeah, but you should say you don't want them to feel like they're in school, but it's Sunday school. What'd I say, man? No, I... What'd I say, man? No, I mean, I just, I think it is...

It should be fun learning. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and I'll leave it at that. I'm just telling you some experiences that I had and I was like, I already did five days. I don't want to do this one on Sunday. We should be having tests on Sundays. Yeah. I mean, you know, if you're going to do the test, make the test fun. Like I do tessuses here. I do trivia and you kind of make it fun. And again, because I'm not a trained pedagogic, it

It's different now. I do, I do understand age appropriate. Oh, yeah. You know, in terms of the information that people get and what they're able to do, come back and visit us again. Judge Dallett, okay. Happiness Donuts said, I hope divorces never need juries. I know we're going to be up here arguing over these shoes.

It's gonna be a present. Yes. It's known as Paris versus Paris and whether or not the Other spouse is entitled to one of each pair of shoes that the other spouse has I could they have a whole case it could become the Paris law man. I know somebody right now that is still in court fighting over a divorce that happened that started about three years ago

and they're still arguing and fighting over. So, you would never get a chance to start your healing process because you're constantly going through. Because you're mad. Because you're mad. You're mad. I mean, you know, it ain't, it ain't, ooh. When relationships go bad, call and welcome to the program. Nope. What? What?

Yeah. Maybe it was a squirrel on the line. Congratulations Milwaukee Brewers. Hey man, way to go out man. Go out winning. Now they were up 6-0 and when I checked back, I think the final score was 6-4. But yeah man, they again, we were just talking off the air. They're going to really have to figure out what they're going to do in terms of that third starter. Carla, welcome to the program.

Cause we straight. Yeah. That was me. I had hung up. Okay. Anyway, just give them one fun thing to do a month or however often you do it. I just want them to experience the infant and paper. That's a lot of times. I understand because school is a job. Yep. Yeah. They'd be at work for real. All right. All right. At least in the blue this cat head up here over here looking like a bobble head.

Like, thank you, Salif. I'm just going to make up more information. Thank you. You really encouraged me into it. It would be like Donald Trump be going, like, dude, that ain't true. You just made that up. That could be possibly true. Hey, did you remember the NPM? What did I say the name of the NPM was?

It's crazy how the brain works and I think I might

incorporate this into my question. It's crazy how the brain can forget something, but then remember that it forgot it. It ain't Wednesday. I'm just saying, but ain't that crazy how the brain works though? You know what, and one of the things that I got, my classmates in college,

would love to get my notes. I was a copious note taker. Thank you, Mr. Larry Gross. He was my teacher at Parkman and Mr. Gross had us, man. Like even the pimps and players brought pencil and paper to Mr. Gross's class, right? And so I did, but be able to take notes. You know, I'm getting lazy now, but to take notes,

Where you know, oh this point at that point or because you really do and with all the all the information out there, right? Yeah, you it's no way you're gonna be to remember all of that Well, yeah, because so you couldn't know you can overload yourself to the point that you can forget some of the information that you put in prior to you overloading yourself because you put in all this stuff in you. Yeah Let me also let me do this about juries If they're going on driver's license records

Yeah, because that's what I asked right You but it and let me and let me thank

I mean, they really make the jury experience. You know, at first you get down there, man, and, you know, you sit up in the room with folks, and they're looking at you, and you're looking at them. And I was there from eight to noon, and then they told us we could go. Man, listen. And then one time I was called, I was on standby. And they, I think they check with you in the morning.

And then check with you in the afternoon to let you know whether or not you need to report. But you know what I don't like is one of my friends went down for jury duty. And I guess because they didn't get a chance to go through the emissions test, their tags wasn't. And as they was down there doing something for the city, the city told their car.

and then and then you have to pay the fee to get it out. So you're doing a favor for the city. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh

take care of it after a certain amount of ticket they told you oh you get four tickets in a month they can tell you oh yeah it's over call a welcome to the program they go they go let me see what i can ask you a question can somebody please explain to me merge when you on the when you're getting on the highway merging yeah because people do this all the time they get on the highway you stay in the lane to merge them to the lane right why do they stop and try to go over instead of just

Marge it over. Marge it over there. Because as they're trying to get over, they looking and as they're looking, you know, they hit the break to try to merge over. But they don't suppose to. But the thing I gotta do is go straight and go and merge you right into the lane. Amen. You preach the choir, brother. Do you know that most folks, if they took the written test, would flock? Yeah.

Yeah, that part. I knew that one. Call the room to the program. Good morning. Hey, what's up, brother? How you doing, man? I'm good, man. What's happening? All right, brothers. Hey, did you did you see saying that live this weekend with the new mix? It was the worst Saturday night live ever. It was. Oh, everything. First of all, Jalen Brunson ain't funny.

Oh man, it was like, it was like, well, I gotta go back and watch weekend update. That's what I usually watch it for. Anyway, weekend update because that's usually the funniest part of the program. But man, it was awful. The skits were awful. It was and I understand about the basketball one. That was kind of funny in the basketball gym. Oh, when they, um, is that when they had on the light blue uniforms? Yeah, they was doing a little dance thing. Right. Right. Yeah. That was a little funny.

Oh, man, they are, man. And I hate to be. Look, I've been watching Saturday Night Live for more than 50 years. From day one, I have been a fan. I've sat through the dark times. I sat through the great cast, you know, the Eddie Murphy's, right? The Will Ferrell's, you know, all just, oh my God, man. And if they continue to do this, this will be the last season.

I think it's hard because everybody's on the internet now and there's just so much stuff to look up and it's kind of hard now. No, I think, you know, to be funny. And I think it's also the cast. They've lost some talented cast people when when Bowen left. They lost some folks, man. And now, Kenan Thompson, he figured I'm going to get a check. And you know what, too? All those cast members that you mentioned, they usually leave like a year or two. They don't even stay long.

No, I think you make it funny. Right. And then, you know, to be able to go, but then, you know, the writers, uh, it, I just didn't enjoy it. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I didn't think, um, I didn't think Saturday's program was that funny at all. He said he wasn't funny. He said that this is dialogue. He said he wasn't funny, but I liked the way he put his teammates on the farm stage. That was kind of cool. Yeah. They were.

Yeah. All right, brother. Have a good one, man. Y'all have a good one. He don't even look like he laughs at all anyway. I don't even see it. Jayla Brunson? Yeah, he don't look like he's looking. Yeah, I know. Some people get on there like Charles Barkley when he was on. He was good. He was funny. Charles Barkley has a sense of humor. Michael Jordan wasn't bad when he was on. I'm just talking about the sports people that was on.

Now now Peyton Manning Peyton Manning was funny. He probably had one, huh? Right, he had one the funniest in that that United Way commotion And he yelling at the kids and showing them how to break in the car, you know, they say take care of your kids so Peyton Manning won't But then man, it's it's like it's it's it's a tough one, you know even

Fair to middle and when Eddie Murphy came back and hosted, you know, but by this time, you know, he's a big success What do they say when you're hungry you run harder? Yeah, you know and when you think about some of the folks But yeah, this could I mean again, hopefully hopefully hopefully Hopefully hopefully they get better. Hey y'all. I didn't know Madonna was still alive

Hey, it's funny that you see how many MTV music awards she won last night. Yeah, I know. I just a holy best artist of the year. I guess the song she did with Sabrina Carpenter. Yeah, but I ain't trying to hear that man. Who are these people that's on the committee? Yeah. Because how can you vote her for the best? But MTV, isn't that people's? That's almost like people's choice. Don't the viewers? Yeah, it's supposed to be.

I had you know, we just transferred transferred. We just went to a different Provider in terms of television. We have direct TV now and I was watching the episode of those MTV classics Some of those videos were back in the day. Oh, man. Oh Yeah Madonna was a was a was a big winner and

Mrs. Mrs. Uh Mrs. Kelsey. She she she uh she won one last night. Um call her over to the program. Good morning. Yeah. Hey, I gotta wait again. Hey, you know, there's a limit to the number of calls, right? Yeah, right. Okay. Yeah, tell that to to um to meet. But meet does only does it like once? Well, I only do it once a year. Come on now. Alright, alright. Alright, so

Okay, I got a squirt of gold for all your people. I got armed verses. I got the disses without money to do this. Yeah, I got the eye to fill off her shoes. That's hilarious. Adidas. Adios. Adios. Adios.

I don't I think you can do converse and Nike cuz converse owns Nike. No, I know Nike owns converse Yeah, but I wouldn't do nothing with converse now with that with that ad that they got floating around that they all of a sudden had to come to Jesus moment and apologize it Like come on man. I think you know, let's first of all When it comes to the black community Nike Nike Nike, I mean, you know

Colin Kaepernick all day Nike right Sometimes things do happen where there are people who may or may not even know you know When I got to Dominican our team name was the great white Knights and I think they were well-meaning I don't think they had a clue that That's what they refer to the Klan as the great white Knights

And and I think once they even figured out not just how offensive it was to black folks, but to Catholics But then and this has just hit me recently if we are knights That means the Knights Templar and the Knights Templar Were the people who went into the Middle East to take over Palestine To say I don't know if I'm gonna raise that to the folks after Carla welcome to the program

Hey, hey, listen here. Good morning. Are you on speaker jet? Okay, there you go. Okay, listen, I heard you talking about one thing George said and made that I agree with him on the residential requirements should have never been moved. That's something that Scott Walker should have never touched.

you know, the residential requirement in a city. I think it's bad. I think it's bad because I just think you need to be a part of the community, whatever, whatever job assignments you have, you know, when you're working like that. But anyway, you talked about the 400 year tax includes and you kind of shot me down and said the bees are just Republican talking points.

Dude, this ain't got nothing to do with no Republican or Democrat. Who's complaining about it, Meach? Who's complaining about it? Democratic Socialists? The Democratic Party? The only people that are complaining the reason it has a campaign issue is Republicans. Okay, well, no, because guess what? When this was first put in place, people didn't like it. Okay? Who's the people? Which people? Which people? What do you mean?

You said people didn't like it. Which people? We're people, bro. We. Me and you should be. You should be. Right? I ain't part of that. We. Okay. I know you're not. I know you're not, but you will be in about 10 years. Five years. We're gonna be here 10 years. I don't know what you're gonna be, but I'm. No, I'm just telling me we're not gonna be here because if we don't check AI, they're saying that 10 years from now, we're not even gonna be here. So it ain't gonna make a difference. We're gonna get to the 400.

What I called in, I wanted to read the exact what's coming, what the deal is, right quick. Governor Tony Evans, 400-year veto does not automatically raise grandmothers, grandmothers property taxes. Instead, it extends local school district legal authority to increase revenue caps by $325 per student. Now, we already know that we're here.

they're going to max out our school district is definitely going to hit us every time. But then let me keep, keep reading. Okay. By $325 student each year through 2025. But remember, we got a 400 year deal going here. Okay. Okay. Whether, whether her taxes actually go up depends entirely on decisions made by her local school board.

Now, do you understand her local school board? You know what our school board is doing to us. And really, they're screaming they ain't got enough money already. But come on, let me finish with you. How the veto works. Revenue limits authority in 2023, Governor Evers used a veto to change a two-year $325 per student school fund increase into a long-term allowance in tenant

I mean, uh, uh, extended to the year 24, 25. Okay. That's 400 years. We didn't even come up with the, we're following you. I couldn't say a hundred years. I couldn't, that's, that's, that's, uh, that's, that's, that's 40. That's 20 generations. Okay. That's 400 years. Okay. Listen to this here. What is the money used for? What is the money used for? Well, if I finish, we was going to kill us.

No, you don't have to do it. It uses part of the school funding formula. Because the state refuses. You're using your intellect when you're telling us why we're what it's used for. My intellect and your intellect don't mean nothing because these people are not going to be used for me. Okay. Listen, it is here. I could have been through with this already. Funding increased into a long term allowance intended

I'm extended to the year twenty-four twenty-five. I got that. I got that. What does the money use for me? Okay, this guy, you don't want to, you want to use your intellect when the, when the writing is right here on the wall. Okay. Don't be inevitable. Does it say in the writing on the, does it say anywhere on the wall? Does it say any place on the wall what the money's going to be used for? Can I read it? Okay. Thank you, Reverend.

Thank you. Read. Okay. Not an automatic tax, right? The action did not mandate a statewide tax levy or automatic tax increase. It expanded the legal ceiling on how much money local school districts are allowed to raise. Now watch this.

Local districts, you know what our local district doing to us, you know what they doing to you. Local district, individual school board decides whether to authorize this full tax authority, authority based on their local budget, okay? Now check this out, impact on your grandmother's property tax. Local school board decision, local school board decisions, your grandmother's specific property tax bill

will allow increase if her local school district votes to use the $325 per revenue, I mean, per revenue adjustment and raise local property taxes to cover the difference. Do you understand that, man? State aid, state aid, if state. What is the money used for?

Brother, you know what it's used for? It's used for them fees, man, to keep lying to us, man. Keep saying that there's not enough money involved. There isn't. And you know why I know it's not enough? Because every school district in the state, it has the same complaint, meat. Can I say this to you? So you willing to give your grandmother's house away for some, for a fairly situation?

No, no, you ain't got to go no 400 years. You can go 10 years. You ain't going to have nothing, man. All right. You can go 10 years. It just don't sit flat. It don't sit flat. It increases every year. What if you got a fixed income? What if you're a retired person? And you know our school board is going to activate it every year. And what is the money used for? Your tax, your fixed income. What is the money used for?

So if they did that in the Brookfield School District, what is the money going to be used for? The Brookfield School District might not even pull the trigger. I said if they use it, what can it be used for? It has to be used for education, right? They might not even pull the trigger on it. But if it's used, if they pull the trigger, what does it use for, Meach? So what you're saying is it's used for the kids and we need to pay.

All right bottom line y'all

We have to pay for public education. Let me say something else too. And I don't know. I would have to look based on census tracts and zip codes. One of the reasons why we're looking at the possibility of closing these schools on the north side is the number of north side students who are in choice schools. OK. So students who would normally be in those schools.

are in an alternative school system, right? That's 30,000. So when people begin to talk about, and then how in certain areas there's a certain level of depopulation going on, where you have more and more people moving out to the Northwest corner, right? And then Wauwatosa, there's some apartment buildings in Wauwatosa, people are moving into those, but we cannot.

ignored the 30,000 students who are in choice programming, choice schools, and the impact it has on the Milwaukee public school system. Let me thank Supreme Court Justice Rebecca Dallett. Clark Kent, thank you. Thank you. Apostle. Bishop, I know we got to go, and I'm not going to say his name, but he's going to hear from me. And I know if you want to join in with this bastion,

This guy got to hear from us man. What guy? No That's why I didn't say his name. Don't say his name. That's why I didn't say his name. Well, he gonna hear. We got a clock going. No, no. We got a clock going today Monday. You're listening to Community Boys. Let's see how many days because the day is Monday. Get him. Get him. He got it early on Friday, didn't he?

Oh, yeah, but today is Monday. The day after Sunday. Where we, we, oh, oh, oh, we've got the whole program. Yeah. Let's see, let's see. Oh, you know what? He working. You're listening to Community Voice.

Let me thank everybody for being part of the program today. The Good Lord, Willow Creek, don't rise. Hope to talk to everybody and you tomorrow.