Exploring the American Dream: A Deep Dive into Milwaukee's New Documentary

Good morning. Welcome to Community Voice. I'm your host Keith Parris. Hey, Clark. Yeah. You left your room. That's that's that's my flag. Commercial traffic controller. That's a traffic controller. Another example of inner city innovation. That's how flag on the play.

But have you ever seen a file so hard and basketball you'd be like The file was so hard, you know, you just like they were showing that clip on the woman the United States woman and the old girl fake like she got hit. Oh, yeah Yeah, I was watching it live. Yeah

She only did that because she missed the shot because the game was on the line. Now, she had gotten fouled earlier. They didn't call it. Right. So then when they stole the ball from her, then she wanted to foul. But now you didn't get fouled. It was like Sarah Strong when she ripped her jersey. She ripped her own jersey. And her coach was saying, oh, they're tearing their jerseys off. No, they showed a film to get her.

Ripping of Jersey congratulations to the Brewers Yeah, but at this point That's I think they're one or two, you know the question now becomes No

The question becomes The question the question becomes now do you rest your players? And they're gonna have a buy so I mean, I don't know how much you're gonna Anderson is pitching the day I say only he'd only let him pitch three three innings. I won't even let him pitch I wouldn't even let him pitch

I rest everybody. But you want to make sure you keep your edge? Well, yeah, yeah. You know that, you know, being able to. Or if you're going to pitch, just pitch like one inning or something and pitch like one or two innings and then, you know, pull them out because right now at this point, the whole objective is to stay ready for the playoffs because, you know, you played all season long for this moment. So you're already in, it's locked in, rest everybody.

and get ready for your first round by. Because the Wildcars start this weekend or is it next weekend? I think it's this weekend. I could be this weekend. I know the Brewers don't play to the first weekend in October. So that's next week. Yeah. Yeah, so the Wildcars start this weekend. Wow. All right.

Again, let me we are in the midst of our three-day revival. It's sighing Hill Baptist Church. How did it go last night? We're very well last night priest past to James Ivy From I Think it's news on News on Baptist Church there in Beloit. He is also the president of Wisconsin General State Baptist, and I guess I got it right so Really again starts

Probably a 630 18th and Hampton musician over there Chris, right? And James like oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Nice. Nice. So, um, all right. I had a call. So at least she wanted to say hi. Oh, hey, what we got in the comments there, um, Clark, excuse me, my day.

Hey man, you need to think about the day after the night before. Morning! Yeah, yeah, cause morning's coming. Yeah, you partying like a rock star, but you gonna fill it in the morning. Yeah, yeah, fill it in the morning. Yeah, there got to be a morning after. Hey man, I had an apartment on

on the east side and it faced east and I didn't have the best curtains in the world let me and that's so it was and man I could go out and party and dude I come in and that sun would be so bright.

And it'd be so hot, you know, and I'm trying to roll the other way. Now the sun is burning up my back. Hey, man, that next day comes, boy. It's just, ooh. Ooh, so I appreciate you. I appreciate you. I got a buddy. He's listening right now. I stopped doing his birthday because he do a month long birthday. Well, he do it a month. I'll do it. I'll be like, dude, dude, we on day 15 now. I think we need them.

Ratchet this back a little bit. I gave you two days of three to two days. The feast of purpose to die on your birthday.

You know, so, I mean, what, but it just defeats the whole purpose. Man. I feel like this is a long time ago. And I'm, you know, and I hate to do this, this acknowledgement of age. Your body deals with alcohol differently when you get older. Yeah. Yeah, buddy. I feel it. Yeah, sir. What daddy know you say?

Give my ass. Yeah. What you give my ass? Yeah, man. Now I see what you're talking about. Exactly. You know, a whole level of pain. How long it takes to recover it. Oh, man.

And you know it's bad, man, when you get the body ace the next day? Oh, everything is hurting in your body. I think that you partied too hard. Yeah, you partied hard. Now, in the middle of the party, you weren't even thinking, right? Yeah, you was just grooving. That was a good time till you wake up in that one. Well, you probably didn't wake up because you never went to sleep. Because you couldn't sleep, been spinning. You know, you dared to porcelain throw.

Oh, man. I guess it was fun. I mean, I don't know. I don't know, man. They won't be doing this. Oh, man. I got some alcohol stories going like, oh, man. I remember one time we were inaugurating, one time, the only time, we were inaugurating the new president of the mouth.

they had this champagne fountain. You've seen those champagne fountains where it's just bubbling, but actually it was Asti. It was the first time in my life I ever had Asti Spamante. I don't know how I ended up 17 miles from the school. I think somebody said, hey, you want to go down to Hood? Hood was the women's college down the road from us.

I guess I remember saying yeah, and then next thing I wake up and oh man, I'm in awful shape. So Caller, welcome to the program. Good morning. Good morning. Morning. Good morning, right up. Morning, Clark Kent. Morning, Debo. Who you with, man? Good morning, Milwaukee. Hope you with the party and people. That's who we with. Morning, man, Debo. Morning, Milwaukee. I want to be singing.

Couple different things real quick, you know, I know you're talking about celebrating and Partying and celebrating and all that good stuff there It's mind-boggling to me as I go back over the years You know speaking of different tastes and things like that, but one of the singers one of my favorites many ripper 10 rip pretend How many people still to this modern day say ripple?

You know, that was a nice, that was a nice, you know, first quitter. I mean, you, you drank enough of it, it would get you there. Yeah, it was nice and sweet, just like that TJ Swan. You know, it was a first quitter. You drink enough of it, you'll find out. But, um, yeah, they still say many ripple 10. It's not ripple, it's ripper 10, ripper 10.

I'm like, man, y'all drank too much Ripple. What did a friend, Sam, say for college? Champiples. Champiples! I was a black man celebration you drink right now. But you know what? Champil wasn't bad.

I didn't realize it was a malt liquor was pink. You know, you look like you had a little class. Right. Right. A little aftertaste. No, man, champagne wasn't bad at all, but champagne was another. There's a couple of ones like if you sit there drinking like a sweet wine in your city, I'll give you another one. Remember slow gen? Yeah. You know, slow gen fizz as you do. Oh man, you sit down having a great time until you stand up.

When you stand up and it kick in, you go like, ooh, here's one nobody never get wild, wild, wild eyes throw. Wild eyes throw. I mean it. A mad dog. Twenty, twenty. Mad dog, twenty, twenty. That was, they got you with the flavors. But you know what? Mad dog was Morgan David, which was a Jewish ceremonial wine.

Yeah, yeah. Well, that's what I was saying. They got you with the flavors. I mean, Morgan David. That dog here, it was just like, ooh. Wait, so it was considered a wine? It was a wine. It wasn't a wine, man. It's a wine. They expanded their brand. Yeah. But it was used for, they used it for, they used it at mass, the wine that you had right. Well, yeah. The original grape wine, yeah, yeah. The original grape wine.

But yeah, like you said, MD 2020, man, they got you just like to get them out with the vapors, the flavors. When they start putting them flavors in there, man, it's like, man, you better not try to drive after you do like about a bottle and a half. You do two bottles, boy. You're sitting, man, boy, man, I sat in the bathroom for three days after one, man, look here, not this weekend, y'all ain't gonna get out here and kill me.

The Mount has a seminary attached to it. I appreciate you. The Mount has a seminary attached to it. So, you know, we have priests in training. And you go to Catholic school, alcohol is ubiquitous, right? Alcohol is everywhere. And so they said, hey, if you really want to get that buzz on quickly, drink your liquor and eat some fruit. I was like, oh, OK. Oh, that explains why. Right, because the sugar gets in your system. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And I would think some of these things, like I said, you would sit down drinking wine. It's kind of like edibles. You know, edibles don't kick in right away. You know, but when they do kick in, oh, they kick in. Oh, they kick in. Oh, it's a donkey. My my sister-in-law, they.

you know she uh they had her party and they have a you you bring in a bartender so any alcohol you don't use you keep right and so they were going through and they were cataloging all the alcohol i hadn't heard this in a while she said where that head dog yeah that head dog or how you jack yeah but that that bad dog boy and it's

It's interesting to state like Wisconsin, because Wisconsin, we consume an enormous amount of brandy. Man, when I was a kid, it was brandy. If you go to Foxes and Houses, which is a great fish fry, it's worth the drive, all you see is old-fashioned and miller, old-fashioned and miller. So I don't know how we got on that. But hey, do you think, you know, I grew up Baptist and

So the question is should you do real wine at communion? Because there are some churches. I know Rhonda's church in the south They do they do real wine at communion. Yep

to take it the blood of Jesus. We have on the line with us, Mr. Louise Zaran. Good morning, sir. How are you? Good morning, fine. Thank you for having me. Oh, thank you for making yourself available. You are the editor of the film Out of Reach, The Struggle for the American Dream. This documentary was made right here in Milwaukee.

and you'll be having its world premiere at the Oriental Theater at 11 a.m. Saturday, September 26th. Wow. What made you want to do a film about the American Dream? Well, I think the American Dreaming is something that is hugely known and perceived not only in America, but

in the world now it's something that everybody dreams of and when they offered me this project I was very interested in seeing and getting to the deep concept and an idea related to it and on the other side it was a surprising to see and know what is

happening with the dream these days. It's something that seems like how everybody in the past dream about this beautiful life and how it has changed it through these days and years is really surprising. I mean, it's something that not only

happens in America, happens in many parts of the world. It's a universal thing, but it's happening. So that was very interesting for me. And it was a challenge to know and discover the life of these characters, know that they struggle every day and that work really hard to survive. It was something very...

Interesting for me now. Are you you are you from Spain? No, I'm I'm I'm from Mexico. Oh, you're from Mexico. Okay. Yeah. Okay. All right. So the proximity of that and I think that that attracted a lot of people who wanted to come to America from Mexico. So growing up you grew up in Mexico. So was it how did you

Did you hear about the so-called American dream or how did you? How did you first come in contact with what what's called the American dream? Well, imagine for Mexican, for many Mexicans, the American dream is an opportunity, a way to change your life is like every year.

many Mexicans going to America to really looking for the American dream. So that is something that in my case, I mean, since I'm little, there's always been this idea of why people go to America from my country. And some of them have found American dream and changed their lives and

And you can see it helping their families here. So for me, I live in Mexico, I'm a Mexican, but I'm pretty in contact with that idea. Many of the people from my country go there and try to leave this dream. So it was doing this project was

a great opportunity for me to really go with in what is happening, how these people live their dream and also how they face the reality of what is happening in the last 15, 20 years now. I guess one of the questions I want to ask is part of what has impacted

the American dream is the deindustrialization of America and moving at one point, many of those factories to countries like Mexico. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's, uh, I mean, it's, it's, it's a very interesting thing to analyze. And that is something that we do in the, in the, you know, it's where we analyze

When did that happen and why? And why that has impact the economy in the middle class in the US? Tremendous. And on the other side, you have all these people from those countries going into America, trying to seek the American dream. So this is something that...

It's hard to explain and it has many, many elements that have made this social and economic phenomenon happen and that is something that the movie analyzed very deeply.

Do you think that us, you know, I talked about the the industrializing in America, but do you also think that the the global economy where we're more of a global economy than we were 30 years ago than we certainly we were 50 years ago How much do you think that might impact on the American dream or the diminishing of the American dream? Yeah, that impacts a lot. No

During the film we talk about how when this idea of globalization came into the scene really changed the way the workers, families, the economy overall was impacted by that. The competition with other countries

the wages know how in countries like China or like Mexico wages are lower and to compete with that for American companies and workers is really hard and that's when this

ideas the American dream really start to shift and families start to struggle and they have to have two jobs instead of one and now not only one member of the family have to work, both have to work and that impacts the child and families and yeah.

But it has been a huge change in in the last years So what what do you want people to walk away from when they do the film? Yeah, well, I think first a to really It's a big dive into American economy is really you analyze

We analyzed her words, we analyzed what has happened in the last 30 years. You get in touch with people, with our characters, our real people that have real struggles, and you get a really deep sense of what is...

what has happened with American Dream during these years and how people is struggling and how is getting by and what is this amazing character, what are they doing to survive and to grow ahead and change this idea of American Dreaming to

doing different things to really take their families through life in these days. Mr. Luis Aran, he is the editor of the film Outer Reach to Struggle for the American Dream. It will make his world premiere right here in Milwaukee on Saturday.

September 26th at 11 a.m at the Oriental Theater. Man, appreciate you. Sounds like this is a very fascinating film. Yeah, thank you. And yeah, I think we are very happy to premiere the film in Milwaukee. A film that is about Milwaukee with the people from Milwaukee. And yeah, I invite everyone to go and

and see it is a beautiful film, and it has a great depth in it. I appreciate you. Mr. Louise Zaron again. He is the editor out of reach to struggle for the American dream. It will be filmed, well it'll be screened, sorry, on Saturday, September 26th at 11 a.m. at the Oriental Theater. Thank you, sir. Thank you, thank you, and have a good day. Thank you. You too.

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All right, welcome back to Community Voice. Clark, can you pull up the chat? Okay. Hey, Leola. Long time no talk, too. All right, Zebra asks, good morning. Is there a difference in divine spirit on communion wine?

George responds, yes, depending on your denomination. Wait, what, what? Now the wine, the wine is consecrated. That wine that you see in, I think it's called the sacrosy, that they keep it near the altar. That is consecrated. Well, Catholics? Yeah, that's consecrated. Oh, didn't he say it depends on the denomination? Right.

Let's say man Kojic folks or right because Kojic folks many mainline Baptists Have I hate to put it this way have a prohibition on the use of alcohol and so people take it

I think they take it to an extreme in terms of that. If you read the Baptist Covenant that we read every first Sunday, it says that we should not use alcoholic beverages, a paraphrase in a recreational way. So in a lot of it, by the way, Jeremiah Wright, he was talking about

William Augustus Jones who makes this argument that our culture informs our theology, right and So he was saying that in general whatever is the cultural norm that is pretty much people's view of God and then how they exercise their faith and Some people saw the the ravishes of alcoholism

And so I think that that drove it more than anything else I find it really interesting in the Baptist Covenant There's nothing about the use of tobacco and the reason why you might not see that is that in many of those southern states You had Baptist folks who raised tobacco, right, right, you know, so

And then, you know, my influence was that, again, my mom didn't drink, so we didn't see alcohol in our house. And it wasn't, my mother just never liked alcohol. I mean, I don't think it was for any more reason. It was just a question of taste. And, you know, she just didn't. But I did have folks in my family who were alcoholics.

And so, depending where you are, there is no prohibition in the Bible on the use of alcohol. As a matter of fact, Jesus' first miracle was turning water into wine. Wine was a part of the daily, you know, it's just what people did in terms of their diet and what they did in terms of alcohol.

The the question may be for a lot of people is that it comes down to the abuse of alcohol But I also think that we have a different understanding when we call the abuse of alcohol And then trying to differentiate that between people who at this point have developed a dependency on alcohol and alcoholism Now people will tell you that if you never want to be an alcoholic don't take your first drink. So I think

That led into a whole lot of why you don't see You know and a lot of those early Baptist folks weren't necessarily rich folks and you saw a whole lot of I found it interesting that gambling is not in the Baptist Covenant And certainly when that Baptist Covenant was written People weren't using as we say narcotics You know in terms of

What do you saw? It's fascinating history in terms of how we get to get to prohibition a lot of people felt like and let me say this prohibition doesn't work Prohibition doesn't work It's the history on prohibition is Like for example when America did prohibition in terms of alcohol It was the most violated law in US history. You had DA's drinking, right?

You know, and then people, and there's a great, Ken Burns does a great documentary on the prohibition. If you get a chance, watch it because one of the driving factors behind prohibition was the Ku Klux Klan, right? So, and then you could, there was exceptions, near beer, and then you could do wine because of religious reasons. You're Catholic, if you're Jewish, certain other Protestant traditions where wine will be part of the religious ritual.

But prohibition doesn't work. I don't care what you know, it doesn't work call it over to the program Good morning, Keith. Good morning. I was the timing in on your conversation about the religiosity and alcohol so when you think about a lot of the movement that we've had Historically that Kind of makes sense when you look at it from the

confines of like the Baptist Covenant and why some denominations denounce alcohol because of things like the women's temperance movement. So when you go back to looking at those times during prohibition, this is around the time that women first got the right to vote. Alcoholism was a big problem because people could drink on the job. Beer was plentiful. You know, people would go, you know, and drink and construction sites, all of these things. There were accidents, fewer regulations.

It impacted the family home when you talk about the number of immigrants that came to the United States that German immigrant, Irish immigrant that had a higher propensity to utilize beer and other alcoholic beverages. In the South, you talked about people that were making moonshine and were gym runners, all of those things. So that played a part in local society as well. Give women the right to vote in 1920.

And then one of the first things that they activated with that vote was with the temperance movement. So a lot of religious doctrines sometimes driven by women in church, even though they were not able to be performative in the church as far as being religious or being pastors and a lot of Christian denominations even to this day. So a lot of doctrines prohibit alcohol usage amongst their members

Like in the Mormon church, some people don't do caffeine. They don't do, you know, alcohol, some things like that. So I think that plays a part. We haven't updated some of those things. But, you know, we say it in, like you said in the covenant all the time, it talks about, you know, prohibiting use of alcohol. And I always laugh because I said, same joint on Saturday night, same folks on Sunday morning.

And I think, you know, you mentioned something that, you know, in Wisconsin, it's legal for a parent to give their kids alcohol. Absolutely. Children can drink with their parents in a bar restaurant. Bar restaurant. It's legal because alcohol was part of culture, was part of religion. And that gets back to William Augustus Jones' contention that our culture informs our theology.

Right. Yeah. And so right, you know what was ever happening environmentally and they're there. I don't know if there's any society that doesn't have something where especially when we talk about alter consciousness, you know, like you go like people did like beer in Africa. Right. I mean, you know, so it's always been a part of it. And I think prohibition is a very well meaning yet ineffective.

approach to dealing with abuse of a substance? Absolutely. And I think it doesn't really work because just like you will have major conferences or religious organizations, people who are hotel executives will tell you all the time, if you have a major religious conference that comes to your town, people may not be sitting at the bar drinking, but they order room service. Right. And that's what you get. That's where the bar tab comes in.

I'm gonna tell you the one that I began to see among religious groups was where they were holding their conventions where was gambling legal because a whole lot of folks would gamble. Yeah it was you know and I understand people want to want to release

And, and I don't know, I don't know if you penalize everybody because you have a minority that's struggling with, with a substance like, you know, you know, ban cars because of car accidents. Right. Right. You, what you try to do is hope. And then the whole thing is like, it comes down to human judgment. And then, you know, what we're doing. But yeah, and I, and I thought it's different. The temperance movement and the clan were very involved in prohibition and prohibition.

And somebody just talked about the war on drugs. Same thing. It was a similar situation. When you talk about how we used to treat people with what would be considered narcotics, well, they aren't narcotics. Now, when you talk about hysteria and all these other things, cocaine itself was used in color spirits. So, you know, you think about these things now. The original Coca-Cola formula. The original Coca-Cola formula. Hey, it's cocaine in it. Yeah.

other things would, you know, have cocaine in it. Well, and I think it wasn't there a song, I don't get a kick out of cocaine. It was back in the 20s, but it was legal. Yeah. And a lot of the the when we find a certain drugs become illegal, then that gets you back to the war on drugs, right? Like opium, where that was something that the Chinese used.

And people then use that as a means to say, you know what? We can go after Chinese folks. Right. And then I was surprised with the whole, was it cocaine and black people in the South? Made them work harder, faster. Yeah. But then they also thought that it would submit and we start raping white women. Yes. So then that's where you start to see the shift. Yes. So I don't know. Very interesting.

I think that where we are right now one thing about what George was talking about too I think he was getting to the point of transfiguration in the Catholic church when you talk about the representative Ability of wine like in the Baptist church that it is you know They don't say it is actually Jesus is low But then you talk about transfiguration in the Catholic church that that is his blood Yeah, I think they also know that it is blood

Right, right, you know, I mean it is and again it represents and then you have some Baptist who will argue all he wasn't drinking for a minute wine It wouldn't be wine. Oh, that's right. You're similar. So, you know, there is That's what makes it wide. Okay. Thank you

Thank you for that little bit. There's no play wine. There's no play wine, exactly. You know, it's just like, it's like now when people, they're doing these non-alcoholic drinks. Yes. But it gives you the taste of like vodka? Yes. How many people drink vodka for the taste? Huh? And that's, you know, scientifically you can do that. You can get, you know,

the edge off or whatever it is, or they make you sleepy. There are some mocktails that can make you sleepy. So it helps people with sleep. So yeah, there are things that people do. But when you drink vodka, don't you drink vodka for the kick? Hey, when I was in the club, we did. That's like, don't you smoke weed to get high?

I mean, what I'm saying is that the intent of, you know, ingesting the substance is altered the state of mind, right? Right. And it's great, you know, like, um, I can tell you how Jack Daniels tastes sometimes. I'm just like taken into the head, right? I mean, it's, it's interesting.

You know, we all have there's always the side of what I think a lot of it is the side of what was supposed to happen. I think it was Marcus Wilde who talked about his father being a pastor and they would go to the restaurant and the people would say, oh, do you want to, you know, a cocktail or whatever? And his mother would say, yes, I would like, you know, whatever he does that. People from the church might see it. And he said, he would always say, you know, pastor, I'm not that fast.

Right. Well, you know, I used to, I told the joke. I said that Baptist smoke at on the parking lot. Coaches folks smoke at home. We still smoking, right? We still drinking. But I think, and then that gets into our religion where it comes to respectability. And if you Catholic, you just drink a church. Which was freaking me out like.

You know, like, I'm superstitious this way. My roommate was Catholic. And that midnight mass for Christmas, you go to midnight mass and then you party to the next day, right? I did not understand drinking and then going to mass. Hey. Because I grew up Baptist. In a Catholic in New Orleans, Mardi Gras is over. Church opens at midnight. We would leave the parade and you go.

church they have midnight mass right there because it's you know I guess I guess if you got there I guess if you and I was always amazed because they're very devout Catholics one of the one of the waste days that we had at the Mount on the weekends was jungle juice parties you're cool what Wapatu I think is what they okay the next day people get up go to mass

It was so quiet in that cafeteria. I mean, people were hurting, but they went to mass. Yeah. All right. Appreciate you, dear. See you Saturday. All right. All right. You're listening to Community Boys Callers. I see you. That's where the THC kicks it. Exactly. That's why you... Nobody's smoking weed for the taste.

Don't. One, two, three. Call him. We're going to call. I see you. We're going to take a break. We'll be right back with your host, Keith Parris. No, I just had a memory about when I was a kid and we did communion. And.

I think we were maybe hope I'm not wrong on this. We were doing sauteed crackers. Yeah, I do remember sauteed crackers. Okay. I didn't I didn't. Yeah, it was sauteed crackers. Now we went to the prep. We went to the prep. Call it. Welcome to the program. Hey, good morning, guys. Good morning. So you were talking about in, you know,

and the money that college athletes are making. I was? Well, I thought I just had a dimension and I am. Or should Black players no longer attend these schools? No, that wasn't my conversation, but okay. They wouldn't have to do it. Was that Michelle?

No, I must have hit the moon day and thought I was on your life. I didn't talk about NILs. No, you didn't talk about NIL, but you didn't talk about PWI schools. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah. Oh, about how they shouldn't attend certain schools or like hit the city or whatever. Yeah. But since I mentioned it, I don't mean to change the topic. No, it's fine. It's fine. The support or protect

College Sports Act. I heard a white man, a former NFL quarterback, who was knowledgeable about the racism that you mentioned on that date. And he said they should just call it the bill that's before Congress will save the ESPN and SEC contract bill because if they wanted to limit the amount of transfers for the kids,

and not tamper with the money that they deserve. Many years ago, the NCAA could do that without Congress being involved, without K-crews going on TV. And, you know, last year, Congress football made more money than ever. And so what does it need to be saved from? And so I think there's a lot of ignorance about recent history, let alone, as you mentioned, like the reconstruction on that.

particular day that you want to stop it. So I think a lot of parents of these athletes and people in general don't even pay attention to anything that is in the current news cycle. But right now this is in the news cycle and these kids making money is a drop in the bucket compared to the billions and billions of dollars that football and basketball, which are more than predominantly black, provide any revenue for these institutions.

But you know what? Okay, first of all, amateurism is a myth, right? It's always been a myth. People get paid under the table. They did a whole thing. This documentary on ESPN called the Pony Express, and they were talking about SMU, and when they were talking to Eric Dickerson, and his joke was that he said he took a cut in pay when he went to the NFL.

So they've always been paying, you pay your star athletes, you figure out how to get a money. But I, and I understand this, you know, here is different for women. Women are more apt to get a college degree as an athlete because of their pro options are a lot more limited than men. But my question becomes, you got guys who are transferring and look at now, man, this dude, he played at four schools in five years.

What they mentioned is that coaches have them, if you're going to make this rule where they can't move, coaches can leave the day before bogey. And so Nick Saban, I don't think it's a coincidence that a school like Indiana winning and his program declining because now the payments are up on board, which they should have been because these guys generate so much money and a lot of them end up broke and never making it to

professional sports when they are actually professional athletes. Like you said, a lot of time in high school, they, you know, they're, you know, on the level, especially in basketball, where they can compete with folks. Beyond the NIL, thank you, Ed O'Banion, because it's really Ed O'Banion who really got this movement. When you see them, yeah. But so do you think a college education is important? Definitely.

And think of how many college educations I can pay for if I've been getting the NIL money since I was a junior in high school for my younger family members. And how this lists, see they have a problem with it because these are black kids getting this money. And some poor white kids, but basketball and football programs are paying money into sports like thinking that a lot of times our tax dollars go to these schools

to pay for and then they, they decide to build science labs or whatever else or monuments to donors with the money that they have. It also, it also, it impacts your enrollment. If you, if you win a national championship or if your team is highly, your enrollments go up. I mean, applications goes up because enrollment is a different part of the application process. So, but I guess my question is how do you, and

And look, anybody who's ever did college athletics, understand it's a job. It really is a job. You spend an enormous amount of time, you know, either practicing, doing film, doing whatever you is, travel. It's a job. But I guess do we lose that these athletes are not getting the college education because they're not going to be able to play sports or that sport that they're in for the rest of their life. Now, somebody said, well, Tiger Woods left after two years in Stanford. That's Tiger Woods.

That ain't Keith Pierce. For example, if I make zero dollars for something that I work, I spend so many hours on, think about how much time you spent before you set foot even on a high school campus to be good enough to qualify for high school, to qualify for college. Now I've spent most of my life doing this, which probably impacted my academics because I don't have as much time to study and get an academic scholarship even if I have the intellect.

But some people are just physically gifted in a way by God. Like LeBron James is a basketball player or a tight end. You know, I mean, naturally. And it would take an incredible coach. Even if he, even if he, you know, any coach could have turned him into an NBA player, if not a great NBA player. But the question was very few people are LeBron James. Very few people are Tiger Woods, right?

The average person, the average athlete, right, is going to be, you know, the NCAA, I get them credit, part of their propaganda program is they talk about that the vast majority of athletes do not go on to play pro sports, right? So then you, and that's really the issue where I was in college when they went from the four-year scholarship to the one-year scholarship.

You know like you know the full ride be like no be every year because that gave coaches power to if keepers not performing I take his scholarship and give it to write out Okay, so that's really about that control. Yeah, so the athletes and then like you said Coach could go the reason why they hate Kiffin so much down in Mississippi is not that he left It's how he left. He wouldn't even coach the team through the playoffs. He was gone

And then he went to a SCC school. But then- And coaches like Nick Sagan, who all- Nick Sagan did the same thing, right? He went from LSU to Alabama, so. You know. No, I mean, I understand that, but I think- Sagan, who's pushing it the most, has pimped kids for generations, and has been, he posts probably five different schools. Right. And now he owns two Mercedes dealerships in Alabama from all the kids who he's manipulated and

told the parents he's gonna be a father figure two. And then when they're done, they have nothing. So that's why I think it's great. So that doesn't that emphasize the importance of giving an education? Well, if let me say this, if I'm already a millionaire, Charles Barkley said while I made the type of money that Angel Reese made in college, I can hire a whole lot of educated people. I can't but but but here's the thing. There's a shelf life on the million dollars.

Imagine what Larry Hamilton would be worth as a high school athlete or Brian Gardner. They would have purchased homes for themselves and their families. And particularly, like I said, in the Big 10, in the NTC, or a team like UNLV, Running Rebels, or the Fab Five, who had their jerseys being sold at malls. These kids have been pimped four generations.

to support sports that white kids play. And now that they're making money, it's a problem that the revenue is being shared with them. But they're still being pimped. Well, there's a difference in a street walker and a high class whore. Everybody who has a job is being pimped to a degree. And the fact I love that these kids are making money now, and especially on a high school level that they can do.

great things for themselves, even if they don't make the pros. Well, not at all. I'm being the idealist here. So you have to excuse me. I just think that this is short term. You know, I don't know if you saw the ESPN documentary called Broke. And this is before NILs, right? And it was just talking about how many athletes are broke, go bankrupt. And then you think, oh, we're talking about black players. Nope.

it was across all sports, all sports, because you're making an incredible amount of money right now, but you're not gonna be making this money forever because what you do has a shelf life. So there's a point to be- Would you like to have it from 20 to 30 or never? I'm sorry? If you had a choice of, okay, I'm just gonna take this, they put it on the table. We're gonna give you a scholarship to Alabama. You're a great football player.

or you can go to Ohio State and get five million dollars the year that you graduate from my school over the four years. Everybody's going to take that money and and what you do with it. And what do you think that is? What do you think the value of an Ohio State education is? Well, if if if I can educate 10 of my younger

My family has benefited. No, I'm talking about me and purchase. I'm talking about me. What is the value of Ohio State or University of Wisconsin or Marquette? I'm talking about a degree over a lifetime. What's the value of that? Over a lifetime, it depends on what your location would be. Okay. What I'm saying is in the hand, five million in the hand. If this is your child worth is worth, you know, you have that money right now.

because we don't know if the parents and the grandparents are going to live for you to, you know, come up in corporate America. You have already generated the type of money because you are the labor as a college basketball football player that should afford you the type of money that's largely and Angel Reese and Caitlin earned that, you know, even in WNBA, they make less. So to have that opportunity and actually

for the universities to share it, I think it is really fantastic. I think the difference between Angel Reese and maybe some other athletes is that Angel Reese women are more apt to get a degree, right? They're more apt to actually get a college education, whatever reason. And they're doing the same. They got the same schedule as the men's basketball program. They have the same schedule.

A lot of that is their professional options, again, are limited. But then the question becomes, how valuable is a college education over a lifetime? Well, the answer is that the people who are challenging and keep are the people who on the other side, when it's them, always talk about happiness and they're right with the pre-market. These two different lengths. I'm not talking about whether or not a college athlete should be paid.

That is not my argument. My argument is though in you being mercenary, which means I'll play at Mississippi State this year. I'll play Georgia next year is that after my eligibility is up. And let's say I don't make it to the pros or if I get to the pros, I'm still going to have a limited shelf life in the pros. What happens after that? They don't have to be exclusive. We're talking as if the

You have to not educate yourself if you get paid. I'm sure Bill Sanders, I think, did get his degree, for example there. And I think there are a lot of them. They talked about the grade point average on Colorado. No, I'm agree. I'm agreement. They talk about the grade point average on Colorado. They had a high grade point average. They had a high grade point average. So, you know, or if you had BYU, I'm just saying.

I think a lot of people go, well, you know, college education, you know, you can do that and that and that and that. But I'm saying if I put four years in at an institution like Ohio State, you know, now some of the SCC schools, maybe not so much, you know, or the University of Michigan, one of the top schools in the country, that University of Michigan degree is also a money maker. Could be worth a million, depending on what you study.

Yeah, but if you get that money in your hand when you're 18, as opposed to... You could blow it at 18. Maybe, depending on who's in your family. Okay. And that's what I'm saying. You don't have to. And what I'm saying, all of these things are choices. And have you ever heard the saying, better to have love than to never have loved at all, better to get paid and get both, than to never get paid at all? Because you also, you make context, Keith. Like Antoine Walker is a good example.

He went broke, but because of the people he knows, he's made a comeback and now he's a financial advisor. So yeah, they might blow it, but so what? Is they money? They've earned it. He's going to start to know what not to do with your money or how to deal. And I would tell people watch Broke. Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke Broke

should have been generating billions of dollars for it. But if Keith Parris goes to Mount St. Mary's, I didn't go to Mount St. Mary's so I could buy my mama a house. Hold on, let me finish. I went to Mount St. Mary's so I didn't have to live in my mama's house. So this obligation that athletes feel like, now I know that there's some people who were talking about like, man, when I'm in college and my mama's at home struggling and I need to be able to send some money home to my mom, I got that. But I knew I wasn't better rebounded than you, too, Keith.

a couple inches taller. Alright, man. Appreciate you. Alright, man. Call it. Welcome to the program. Good morning. Good morning. Oh, man. Hello. Yes. Hello. How you doing? I'm good, sir. Hey, listen to me. I had to address the issue. No, you didn't. I'm talking about the wine. No, you didn't. In the church. Now, listen.

First Corinthians 3 16 says no, you're not that you are the temple of God And if any man found the temple him will God destroy the paul drink wine The paul drink wine when you were the paul drink wine not only that it grabs some people into bondage and they can't escape the paul drink wine The paul drink wine paul told me

to go get some wine for your stomach. So what's your argument? My argument is that for some people, it's forbidden, man, because they're hooked on people, places, and things, and they can't shake loose at it, man, and you become bound. You understand that? And bound, the whole process of being bound is not being able to escape and get free.

So, and then you, you, you defiled in the temple of God, man, which the temple, you always say, you just contradicted yourself. Huh? You just contradicted yourself. No, because what do you mean? I contradicted myself. Paul's advice to Timothy. Right. So what, why, why would he tell Timothy to purposely defile his body? No, he told him to bring some wine for the stuff for his stomach sake. That's sort of like. So consumption is consumption, no matter what the reason is.

Consumption is still consumption. Okay. Listen, can I say this with you brother? You can. I love how you back you up. You can't No, no, no, no, no. Listen. Check this out. Remember that movie Kung Fu? Remember Kung Fu, the guy that would do the Kung Fu and he was like a nomad. He would go from town to town. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we got it. Got caught up when they found him dead. He was in a bad situation.

But listen, check this out. Listen, now in that flick, every time he got injured, what did he do? He went into his bag, what did he get out? He got out the cocoa leaf, and he put it on his sore, on his wound, okay? The cocoa leaf, man, is used in certain parts of the world for medicine, for tooth apes, to Namma tooth, you know, it has healing, it has numb and power in it, and it has some resources to heal you.

So check this here out. That cocoa plant is in its natural form of God-given, okay? But once man takes it and add an outside chemical to it, for the evil use of satan to control lives of me, it's called witchcraft. The evil use of satan? Witchcraft in our community. Oh, satan? What? What do you mean, somebody that broke? Yeah, it's an accepted witchcraft. Okay.

But what I want you to understand is that any time you take God's natural resources and add an outside chemical for the evil use of Satan to destroy or control the lives of men, it becomes, it becomes an acceptable witchcraft. You can take a little bit of heroin. I'm going to just show you this in clothes. You can take a little bit of heroin.

just to sprinkle a little bit in a person's food every day. Not enough to get them drunk, not enough to get them nodding, not enough for them to even fill it, just a little bit in there to offset the chemistry in that person's body. Yes, well, when that person don't come to that girl's house, he gets a sick, he gets like a tooth withdrawal. You know, it depends on how long she been feeding this. So, yes. He could, he could perish from the natural cause. So, is marijuana cool? I tell you what you said. Is marijuana cool?

No, no, no, let me tell you about the natural one that we have here today. It's not that of a natural substance. Yes, it is. It's sort of like going to the grocery store. Okay, it's hybrids, but it's all the same substance. They're not adding anything chemical to it. All they're doing is taking, you know, now it's two female plants. That's basically it. It's possible. They take a female plant and remove the male plant so it don't be produced. Right, it's still natural, so marijuana cool. Let me say this to you, brother. It's marijuana cool.

No, no, it's not. It's a mind author. Oh, okay. So anything that alters the mind is not cool Well, anything that alters the mind for the evil use of Satan brother because God that you have to use the same How do you know it's Satan? How do you know it's Satan? Do you know what do you believe in good or bad?

Do I believe? I think there is a good and bad. Okay. And I think there's a good and bad too. So how do you know it's Satan? That's great. Okay. Now, how do you know it's Satan? Because there's God in good. Okay. So there's a whole list of things on the good side and a whole list of things on the bad side. Is that what I'm getting? Brother, I enjoy the pushback that you're giving me, but you can't handle me on this if you just have a direct conversation.

I'm working for you. You're trying to you're trying to I am too. I am too. Well, you spending the night. The man you spending more. You spending, you spending, you spending, you spending like the spinners now. Don't don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't

Hey listen to this here T. I try to give you some action man. I know brother. I know. You know what it is? You know I'm woke. Well guess what? Guess what man? Guess what man? To be a woke person in today's society years ago that might mean something. I won't now. Today is a very dangerous thing to be woke. That mean you might be non-binary. Are you non-binary?

I'm not binary. Okay, I mean, that's woke stuff. You know, when a person look down at it, when a person look down at it, when a person look down at his private spot and say, I ain't nothing. I don't got man or woman. These are sick people. Is there any line between insanity and a saying anymore? It's a thin line. It's a thin line. Okay, all right. I appreciate you. I appreciate you.

So, is weed good? It's natural. It comes from the ground. It comes from the ground. They don't add anything to it. And what people have to understand is, it's all about when you pick it. No, no, seriously. If you pick it too early,

It's not as oh, I was going to say when does it become say we know? Again, he overshot the airport with that one again. He overshot I'm just trying to figure out when it becomes say we yeah now I mean Again, it comes from the ground and there's harvest time. So if you pick it at the wrong time, it's not gonna be as potent

if you pick it at the right time when it's supposed to be picked. We wouldn't argue that with any crop, right? Well, yeah, and so that's why you actually get that strongness of that seed. You smell it because it's crossbreeding. We so conflicted. And it's just like, man, it's, you know, just like you said, with any crop, if you pick it in this wrong season, it ain't gonna be as good as it would be if you pick it when it's time.

you know, no one is right. Okay. You know, but I need to go break it. Yeah. Yeah. You can do whatever you want. Let me do it. Let me do four minutes and then we'll do it. But this question in my mind is two different things. The fact that athletes are finally being compensated for the use of their their likeness, their image or their name is a good thing. But do you do that in the in the short run?

where you're going to have long-term consequences for that athlete. Right. You know, and think that that's the best piece and I'm being naive. And, you know, talking about the benefit of a college education, you know, because you're not going to be able to play football all your life. But the only problem that I kind of pushed back with the whole college education, I know a lot of people that went to school for one thing and

and they paid all of this money. They got a degree and they're working in a whole totally whole different field. Still working? Yeah, but you're not even working in the capacity that you could be working in if you would work in the field that you're school for. That's the argument for a liberal arts degree. But to me, it's like, why spend the money to put you in debt to keep the doors going? It puts you in a better... You have better earning on average. You have burning, long term earning capacity. But you know there was so...

Crazy now is you can fill out application and say hey man, I got this degree I went to this school and You could pick a school that actually closed down like like one of them online schools and say you got your degree and they would never check So that's that's like well a college education means for an employer that and let me use this word You're educable. You're trainable. You're trainable, you know because no matter what industry you go in you have to learn

Yeah, they do the business right? All right, you listen to community voice. Call I see you. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Your host, Keith Parris. All right, welcome back. Call and welcome to the program. Yeah, good morning again, Keith. Forgive me for double dipping here, but I had to get back in here after hearing Meach, but.

Yeah, we're talking on W speaking question. I got to get out of here because I got somebody picking me up here. We're going to make run farmers market a couple of the stops here. We don't need that. That's too much. Well, I'm just letting you know that I'm going to give you the comment that I'm going to listen to you, you know, over the streets. I'll take it. It all depends on the farmers market. But here you go, man. OK, well, you know, there's a lot of different things out there that you put out there, me put out there. But your fermentation is your fermentation.

Because you know what they're all saying, you know, old girl, you get better, you know, you get better like old wine, you know, wine gets better with age, you know. So aside the church and all that stuff, does your actual fermentation come in with the aging of the grapes or, you know, you know, they're trying to do all this stuff with shelf life. So I guess whatever mine offering stuff, they're putting in it to give it a longer shelf life.

and the alcohol. So where's your fermentation coming in? Is your fermentation coming in for the aging of the grapes or the, you know, the alcohol content itself then? And I'll go ahead and listen to you over there. We'll pick it up another day on some of the other stuff because, you know, some of the harder stuff was aged in oak barrels and stuff like your parmesan and different things like that was aged in oak barrels, you know.

So just you know, where's your fermentation coming from your grapes or your actual alcohol and I'll just do over there. Thanks a lot then Thanks The fermentation creates the alcohol the alcohol is a byproduct of the fermentation, right? Call welcome to the program Good morning Thank you for taking my call and I noticed that Yeah, well some people call just to be argument, but one of the first miracles

that Jesus performed was to turn water into wine because they ran out of wine at the wedding and that's when he turned the water into wine. And then let's go back to Genesis chapter nine. Noah planted a vineyard and after he grew in grapes he got drunk. And then you remember

the daughters of Lot. What did they do? They got him drunk. And also, one of the qualifications of being a deacon is not to be consuming too much wine. That means every now and then you can have a little wild Irish rose or some Thunderbird. Thank you very much. Have a great morning.

Thank you for that biblical justification for the consumption of wine. Do we have any biblical justification for the use of we? The burning bush the burning bush Oh, he spoke through the burning bush and when you burn that bush you speak That's what new usually happens when you burn the bush you talk a lot

Since we use the biblical principles around this joke. It was fire. It was burning. It was fire. Oh, Jack. Oh, Lord, it's a fire. And I said that tongue in cheek because we're conflicted. There's our catechism, right? How we've been raised to view certain things, right? It is also we become an adult.

And then, you know, we, we just, we just, um, I heard this definition of sophistication as the loss of innocence, right? And, uh, you know, so you're exposed to more, you might have a different understanding of, of that. And so now give, I would say to folks that, you know, you have public behavior, private behavior, secret behavior. Um, many years, many people didn't know I smoked.

because I rarely smoked in public. I mean, it was a private behavior for me. And so it could be, you know, and how people, and then look, people judging you, you know, now Meach is right about this whole piece and it gets into a more involved conversation around addiction and what happens. And people will tell you, like, abstinence is the most effective form of birth control.

you know, never taking that first drink. You know, chances are you won't be an alcoholic if you don't take the first drink. Yeah, because you won't know what you're missing. Well, and your body won't react to it, because alcoholism is a chemical addiction. Yes, sir. And that's something that Meach kind of mentioned, talking about, you know, people, that whole thing with opioids, that, you know, when we're taking that, it becomes the body

I'm not going to say like it because I don't think that that's medically what it is. No, but I do understand what you're saying because again, if you try it, now your body and your mind has an option. Do I like it or not? And if you like it, you're going to continue to do it. If you don't like it, you're just like, eh, I don't like it. Well, cocaine is not physically addictive. It's psychologically addictive. Right.

People like the feeling they like the feeling and if you don't like how you feel after you do it You won't do it anymore, right? And that's why I never liked cocaine because I didn't like the feeling I never tried it. So I don't know it was like this ain't this ain't this ain't for me now for the other people it was their choice, but it wasn't mine and and and and and I'm a libertarian when it comes to this I think you have the right to do whatever you want to do with you well, yeah, well even Biblically it give you the choice because if you look at the scripture

If I abiding you, if you abiding me, then I abiding you. But that key word is if. So it gives you the choice to choose. Everything is a choice. Exactly. Not everything. What not? Most things. It is. Most things. Well, breathe me. You can hold your breath, but you can't. But at some point, you go out the end. Some things, but I'm just saying that we make choices every day. And so we learn more every day. Yeah.

And hopefully we applied the knowledge that we learned. I was having a conversation with an educator yesterday and that's what she was saying. Like it's one thing to learn it. Yeah. You know, but then how do you practically apply it to your life? Yeah. Call it. Welcome to the program. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. So what you catch needs to really have something to keep your mind all messed up.

Well, you say first of all who you cats

If you throw the rock and somebody scream, you know you hit them. No, no, no, no, no. I'm just, when you said you, you putting it out there, we ain't went to the car yet. Clarification, Jeff. We ain't went to the car yet. But as soon as we get on our next break. For real, for real, for real. You know, I tried when I was a teenager. You tried what? What did you try?

You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

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I hear you. It was too much. And trying to focus and continue to go on, I want to go somewhere and chillax. Hey, that's the parliament. That's just like you using the words around people that's hot. Your formula, like, you know what? But you know what? That music did sound good. And one time what really got me, I would step back, listen to some jazz that my brother had came here for.

And he had a real real. And I pulled around and indulged and I'm sitting on the couch. I might have been there about six, seven hours till he came in to turn the music off. I couldn't move. They got the best of me. It was hypnotizing. It wasn't hypnotizing. No, you know what it does though. It slows you down and you actually hear.

because we're moving so rapidly a lot of times, and we're doing all this filtering of noise. If you think about all the noise that's going on right now, we filter, and once it slows you down, you kind of go like, oh, is that a flute? Wait a minute! Is that a cowbill? You know, you go through life, and once you figure out life, and you say, man, I don't need this to continue.

to maintain my life and focus and all that. I don't need this because the euphoria of it is just too great that you you miss so much of your day. I'm going to say this like this here for a hang up. You know when God gives us 86,400 seconds every day and then you get you put around and get that euphoria and you look at 40 48,000 seconds and go on by his way. What are you going to do the rest of your day? Let me ask this question.

And I don't want, you know, and I'm only asking this question at from, I'm gonna use this word, empirical perspective. So what's the difference then between, let's say the euphoria that I experienced if I'm doing cannabis and the euphoria, I experience if I'm in the spirit. In terms of how the brain is working.

how the brain is working in the spirit you are you you could come out of that one and in such a time with that you forward that you take within yourself it takes so long for that to dissipate within your system you you know you don't have any control over that part but i'm saying in terms of how the brain is reacted aren't they similar similar

Okay, no, and I'm not and I'm not and I'm not right and wrong in it I'm just I'm just asking in terms of how the brain You know again altered consciousness, right that that that kind of started this all off But if I'm feeling that same level euphoria Right, isn't that kind of the same thing when what we call being in the spirit where you get to a point where those things those chemicals kick into your brain?

Right? It's reaction to the stimulus. The stimulus primarily is the music, right? And so it's kind of similar in the same way, right? Kind of similar. And look, I'm not equating it. So I don't want you to be Christians. Put it to yourself. And the second one, you're dealing with it in the spirit. In the spirit, I'd rather be in the spirit with it than kind of add it to myself because when I add it to myself, now I take myself beyond what I really need to do in the next one.

There's a young lady. She's gone home to glory. She was a praise and worship leader at her church. Her uncle, who was the pastor of that church, came up to her. He said, Nisi, Nisi, man, you have us rock, man. Your praise and worship is so spirit-filled. He said, girl, how do you get ready to do this? She said, well, uncle, I go outside. I smoke a joint.

He said all this time I thought it was a Holy Spirit and it was weed. I'm down. All right, man. Appreciate you. Oh, when he told that story, man, I died because truth be told, some church musicians do go to the car. Am I lying right now? You ain't lying? OK, all right. I ain't saying where. Call and welcome to the program.

Good morning. Good morning, Keith. Hey, Jordan. I'm glad you I'm glad you said that you're for you of being in the spirit So I checked you yesterday and told you to turn on Cameron Hall yesterday Because they had this lady this evangelism I guess she was a influencer and

I guess they say that she was curing people of AIDS and cancer, chasing demons out of their body. I don't know if you watched me yesterday, but you know, she touched people's heads and they'd be falling out in convulges on the floor like that. And I don't like to, but it just had me, is this a game? Is these people, she got it planned or is this for real?

And so I kind of wanted your opinion on that, but evidently you didn't turn to watch it yesterday. But then you said the euphoria of the Holy Spirit and it got me thinking, because I'm telling Britain sometimes people can get so caught up in what they're doing that they could maybe think that, okay, this is the Holy Spirit chasing these demons. So it really confused me yesterday when I was watching this and I kind of

wanted the opinion of another minister and that's why I asked you yesterday to watch this because I was like, is this for real? Is this a scam or what? My opinion matters though. Your opinion always matters just because we don't agree on something cheap. This is like when the when the mystic came in.

and my cogent friends came out and said, keep, can you come in and pray? And I had to remind them I was a Baptist. I had to remind them, I don't know if my prayer can handle this, you might want to get with an apastolic. They probably more get, I don't, you know, there's that whole thing about a party. You ever been to a party? Everybody's grooving, right? I mean, I'm talking like,

And you have almost this mass euphoria? Right. You know, because it's your brain. It's your brain. That's what's driving this. It's how your brain is reacting to the stimulus around you, right? And that's what I was telling Brenda yesterday. I wonder if it wasn't because, you know, like they said, like somebody has started like a ride or something and then everybody kind of just joins in or...

you see somebody running and everybody starts running. I was wondering if it was one of those types of things. Well, I think that, you know, how the brain works and how it works and the brain can be manipulated, the brain can be tricked. Part of it is the brain is usually reacting to some type of stimuli over and beyond, just as regularly bodily, making sure our hearts beating and we're breathing. But then it's how we react to stimuli, right? How we go in.

We were talking about the taste and smell called terpins, right? For for cannabis like all those things go into the experience and so that whole group euphoria that that's you know It's in the Greek word for it is charisma, right? Like you have a person who gets up and they can move a crowd, right? That's charisma. It's hard to explain But you can see it happen like there's certain people who

Man, I can tell you, Fantasia, that girl has charisma. I mean, the crowd gets with her. She can work the crowd. She has that ability. I saw a little bit with Kelly Price, you know, that, you know, so I'm just saying that that's the gift, but, you know, it's so complicated into how do you create the environment then to, you know, you can, you can, you know, boom, boom, boom, get off your boom and boom, right?

You know the roof the roof the roof is on fire and when you hear everybody in the joint saying the roof the roof the roof is on fire I think you had one of those euphoric moments. It's a group euphoric thing Look look my mother used to say this about Benny head. She said well if he can heal the sick How come he ain't doing it in hospitals? That's all you need to know

Let me just say this to you, Chief, because I know a lot of times when me and you get this back and forth going on the radio, it kind of gets loud and stuff, but Chief, I really respect you. I think you're a very smart guy. You know, and there's things that you know that you get me on to. But you know, Chief, and I'm going to say, I would even agree all 100% of the time with some of my mentors sometimes, you know, it'd be like, mmm, y'all caught up in that.

And that, what if they say the Pharisees was caught up in that religious, you know, instead of doing the teachings, y'all caught up in all this, trying to look good and this and that and the other. So, I don't want people to get confused with me and you can be going back and forth. This is how it works for me. You don't get confused on that. This is how it works for me.

I'm right. I'm just trying to figure out what's wrong with y'all. I'm right. Everybody else is wrong. Everybody else is wrong. I'm right. So what's the problem here? Brenda just gave you the thumbs up. All right. All right y'all, thanks a lot. Let me take Mr. Louise Aron.

uh callers we thank you Clark Kent thank you sir man boy you're a trooper you crawled up in here and made it and made it but i made it with the help of the lord that that's one of those uh men chorus songs you know men chorus had the old little repertoire songs that they could do some of the songs man they'd be making up so

Hey, hey, and your point is what? I'm just saying every song is made up. Yeah, but you can't expect the musician to know the song yesterday. But if the musician know he playing for the male chorus. Yeah, that's true. If you know who you playing for you, you got the problem. Hey, because it was a couple of times, I swear. I'm like, that is not the song. But we don't say, shall I make it up? I'm going to make it up too.

What do people say when they get up and they can't sing? Y'all pray my strength to the Lord. After that, you know, like God knows my heart. And I'm saying, yeah, but we can hear you. We hear your voice. We hear you. I know you. You've got a great relationship with God, but I know what I'm hearing right now.

Bye. She's saying so good. Don't you agree? Thank you all for joining me on Community Voice this morning. Hey, the good Lord Willow Creek. Don't rise. Hope to talk to everybody tomorrow. And y'all can go from this place in peace.