Education Crisis: Hannah Nicole Jones' Bold Choice Examined

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you know, that when you do the baptism, if you've been in sin longer than 20 years, he's going to hold you under for three minutes because for the father, son, and the holy ghost. Let's try and find out. Hey, so I'm I'm going to catch the one eight seven. No, well, actually, you ever heard that song by the gospel keynotes? Jesus, you've been good to me. And Willie O'Neill be like, hold it, hold it.

That's you holding them cats on the water hold it. Ain't that his son? That's enough. That's enough. That's enough. That's enough. He beaten it with that Hagan chip. That's how they gonna be doing you. He's been beating it with the Hagan chip. That's enough, Keith. That's enough. Boy. Michelle mentioned something to me yesterday and wow it and I'd even uh I you know I subscribed to the New York Times.

I'm probably doing it more digital they require you though in order for you to get the To get the electronic subscription you have to take the Sunday times That's the actual hard copy of the paper. Okay, and then there is the magazine Why didn't I was on digital and I do my little sports connected on digital and I didn't know it so yesterday Michelle had alerted me to our article

Hannah Nicole Jones people might know not know that name or you do know she's the person who was the curator for the 1619 project And at one point she was at Howard. I don't know if she's still at Howard University of School of Journalism But she did an article yesterday and it was talking about and this is

she's in New York City, she works with New York Times, that her and her husband made a conscious decision to put or enroll their daughter in, how do I describe this? A neighborhood black school. And they did it for cultural reasons. Now the background on this was that her husband, he grew up in a military family. So they were always in, on basis, integrated.

school systems. Hannah Nicole said that she grew up her family had means so she went to the best school or I don't know if it was a private school best school in a little town that she grew up in. So they wanted to have a different cultural experience I guess for their daughter. She has written about the disparities in public and

public education and primarily how it impacts on black and brown children. She talked about the segregated school system and so she put it in and she starts it off with a conversation she's having with her daughter. Her daughter must have looked up to school in terms of their ratings and her daughter was very frustrated with her and asked her, how could you do this to me? Because the school academically wasn't

There was a lot going in the whole complicated thing magnet schools tracking kids to the school But there's issues. I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna kind of summarize this in terms of really I just want to summarize my response I Was deeply Disturbed not because of the decision that Hannah and her husband made I think they were well-intentioned in that what I was disturbed about was

the ratchet condition of our public education system, especially as it relates to black and brown and poor children. There's a story where her daughter finally gets in, I guess they do entrance exams at some of the best schools in New York, and her daughter got in the top school. She takes an algebra class. She was getting straight A's at the school that she was at before.

She's struggling in algebra in high school. She's getting straight A's, right? They go in and do like this evaluation to find out she didn't have even the basic foundation to do algebra, even though she was getting A's in algebra in what I think, 8th grade. Yeah, so my frustration.

And then, you know, she talks about the well-intentioned administrators or administrators who just didn't care, right? But it troubled me, and maybe I'm being naive, it troubled me, that this is where we are. That our kids are not being just adequately prepared. We were talking about Kennedy, and Rhonda pointed out that Kennedy reads above grade level.

And I said that, you know, we brag about kids just reading at grade level. And so Rhonda asked me this quote that Nicole Wallace wrote for George W. Bush when they were rolling out No Child Left Behind. She said, the soft bigotry of low expectations. But then when I kind of put it in context, I began to realize where these kids are, they're not being educated.

Now, there are all the systemic social reasons why this might not be happening. But this family was well to do. They weren't poor, right? They had the means. I mean, she could have put her kids in private school from day one. So then that opened up the whole debate, and I saw it on Facebook, people about

You know, the New York Post came out and said that her social experiment failed spectacularly because you basically sacrificed your daughter's education for a greater good, which was, will I bring up the educational achievement of the kids? It was, man, and the more I read, the more depressed I got. That's deep. Because it just, this is where we are. This is where we are. And we can do blame. We can do blame.

But the reality is that this young lady was getting straight A's at the old school and she wasn't prepared to go to the new school. So look so and thank you for allowing me to come in and sit in for a second on this conversation. I read Anna Nicole's.

article. And that whole question about did I sacrifice my child, you know, for a perceived greater good, which is the thought that we're more affluent parents, we will have the ability to bring our resources to bear on the school, make things better for other children, da da da da. As soon as I read the story, the first thing that I walked away with was, first of all, you say you put your child in a school.

That was a low performing public school. Why? Because there are plenty of high performing schools in the public school district My son stayed in a public school district, but he didn't go to a low performing school So you still get to support the district and the likelihood because of their access and resources They could have probably got her in a higher performing public school so I didn't understand

why you would have made a decision to let your child intentionally go to a low performing school even within the public school district. The other thing that I noted when I read it was an absence of personal responsibility because she talked about how her child couldn't do

She thought she was doing something right and found out she couldn't even do fourth grade math and they found out this and they found out that. And it reminded me of a lot of parents who send their kids to school and leave the education of their children primarily up to the school. So all the supplemental work. Atlas is where he is. My son was where he was because of all the supplemental things that also went on in our home. You know, you read to me.

I wouldn't have never had to come to a parent-teacher conference before I realized my kid wasn't functioning where they wouldn't have been. I wouldn't have had to have somebody tell me when my child gets to the next level that your child actually can't do basic math because I'm testing and looking for all of that in my own home. And particularly people that have means, got education, got resources, how you miss some of these votes with your kids, I could not make myself understand.

other than I left the education of my child up to the school. But anybody that tells me you knowingly put your child in a school that was a low performing school, when I know that that district, I went to New York public schools. When I first, before I moved to Alabama, I went to New York public schools. And I know my mom and then put me in high performing public schools. I went to Catholic schools and I went to public schools. So

I was so frustrated and then a former professor from Marquette University, Cedric Burroughs, who is now in Nevada somewhere, Arizona teaching. He actually weighed in too and he talked about, first of all, we need to be careful how we frame it because it seems like anytime we talk about a majority black or brown district that that automatically equates to low performing.

And we got to be careful about how we have these conversations. I think I think it's not a question of when we look at a black or brown when we look at the condition of public education and it's based on zip code and the difference in zip codes and the preparation that look there's all the things that

in Milwaukee public schools have to deal with that maybe they don't have to deal with at the same extent and Greenfield. She talked about the school, the high school that her daughter was in, where she said over a quarter of the kids in the old school were learning disabled.

It was a smaller percentage in that school. Yeah, because a lot of these schools don't have to take, particularly when you start talking about choice voucher schools, you don't have to keep those kids. You can send those kids back to MPS. The money that followed those kids to your school, you get to keep it and send those kids back. And now MPS has to also figure out how to educate those kids who come back because you've rejected them. The other thing.

Right, you know, we're looking at even a shift happening here in Milwaukee. Rufus King High School, Blue Ribbon High School, where my son attended. Everybody wanted their kids at King and Riverside, and it was one other school. White parents, suburban parents, was driving their kids in to Rufus King.

One of the things that we're paying attention to is even the shifting resources where we're seeing a lot of schools on the south side get more resources, get more funds. And if it's not that way in actuality, that's what it looks like in terms of perception. And so people have decided that Reagan is the new king, that other schools more geared again towards the south side are beginning to get, you know,

better ratings and better services and better opportunities than students on the North side. So some of this stuff is systemic. It was just something about the way she went at this and many of the things that she said in the article were valid. When she talked about some of the teachers not caring what was going on in the lunchroom and the kids just basically left to fend for themselves. When she talked about like there was a level of indifference.

I've seen that but I just really that article got under my skin because when you look at it's what I say about the way we talk about crime. When you look at the framing and how you talk about an issue and what that goes out into the world and what that looks like and then people take it and turn it around and now we automatically equate in black and brown with dysfunctional whether it's the teachers

and the administrators or students themselves. That all of it is a dysfunctional system. And the only way we gonna be educated properly is if we go to school with white kids. I didn't like the tone of it.

And I didn't hear any parental accountability for what went on with your child's education. That I would agree with. Because out of the gate, you made a dumb decision sending your child knowingly to a lower performing public school. It was dumb. But I think that the issue, and man, and I think that the subtext of race was there, right? But the issue becomes, one, the value of education, right?

our understanding of the value of education. She assumed, and maybe, and I agree with you, she shouldn't have made the assumption because her daughter was bringing home A's, that she was in fact learning, right? That was only to find out. And then it was like, here's my, and it brought me back, maybe it brought me back to my life experience, that Parkman did not prepare me

to go to Dominican. I'm living my own lived experience now. So I had to do some catch up because for whatever reasons as you know, I was thinking about the whole math thing and we had some great math teachers at Parkman. Great, but it had not adequately prepared me to go to Dominican. But this is another topic. I could make up. So I think about when I went to school in New York, when we moved to Birmingham,

I was ahead of the kids in Birmingham. I don't know why. I don't know what was going on with the curriculum. I didn't understand how education was handled on a national level. But the stuff that they were doing in my grade when I had come through, I had already done in previous grades. So that was one thing that culturally, academically, New York was in a way different place than Birmingham, Alabama was. While a Parkman

And depending on what was going on at Dominican and what the resources are, I'll just say it this way. The preparation is different, and the outcomes can be different. So while it may not have prepared you academically for what they were doing at Dominican, parking ends up preparing you for life. I appreciate that.

And I always talk about culturally what it did and what it did for my self-esteem as a descendant of an enslaved African. Now, I'm saying that I was able to catch up. I was able to catch up. But then it, and this article just kind of realized some of the things I tell the story about when I get to Mount St. Mary's and I take English lip and.

The first thing we study, because you go back to old English, is Beowulf. At Dominican, we never talked about Beowulf. But I had classmates who came from other schools that did. Now people say, that's no big deal. You're right, probably. All I'm saying is that that whole preparation piece, that whole idea of education, education attainment, and then

I was just conflicting on a lot of different levels. I could say, yeah, great, you know, culturally, we're gonna go, we're gonna see Kothi Saturday. When I was in the seventh grade, we saw Kothi do some of their first performances. But I don't even mean just the cultural piece. I mean that the academic foundation is there.

that they taught you the basics of what you needed. Now, in terms of advanced understanding and what I had read by way of literature, in some situations, you got schools that are teaching kids to the test. These, their parents, these people designed the systems. They designed the ACT, they designed the SAT, they designed the test.

They designed the admission requirements, and they got the inside track. So their kid is getting schools that all those things are being offered because their parents already know that this is what you're going to walk into. They also have the means to put their kids in an SAT prep, an ACT prep. A whole lot of white kids are sitting and I'm just saying they have the financial, I'm not. And even though with SAT prep.

Our kids still had to be trained to think a certain way about some of this stuff because some of it was not culturally relevant to the way we lived our lives. People of a certain socioeconomic status, people of a certain racial status, many of these tests designed by white folks for white folks. And we have to come in because it wasn't just straight academics and education. You know, I always think about the law exam.

very nuanced experiences, you know, in somebody grading whether or not you're going to be an effective attorney and should be able to get into law school based on experiences that you may have never had. That doesn't make me any less capable of being an attorney. I just didn't go here or travel there. As a former college recruiter and understanding that we took

test scores into account in terms of admission. We argued back in the 70s about the cultural biases of the test. I don't know if it's moved that needle that much. How much of it then is education is beyond what you get in the classroom. You talked about it, the supplements that you get at home, right? All those things go into it. How much of it then is exposure? Here's the thing with segregation. Segregation means that nothing gets in and nothing gets out.

And then we do segregation in our, in our minds, right? So then we, we, we're here, but if the general test is going to be a general world, but I'm limited to a specific world and the test does matter in terms of whether I'm moving. It's not a general world. It's a white world.

It is white experiences that influence the test questions. It is white, you know, white, white spaces. It's not a general world. Those tests don't frequently represent what you really see in the world. It represents white people's experiences. And what white people think is important because white people control the content that made it onto those, those, those test questions. So it's not a general. So then I'm going to ask what it is. It's not general. It's white. Okay. It's white dominated.

And then let's be clear. Just because black folks were segregated didn't mean black folks wasn't learning about other things. If you look at many of our early scholars and people that go on to be presidents of universities in a different, these people have all kinds of exposure. They just didn't in a situation in a setting with black people, but they learned the classics. They learned a lot of the information that white people learn because that's all you had to learn from.

You have to learn from basically the same books that they had. You just got them six years after they, you know, had moved on to the next step. So who's the dominant? Who's the dominant group in society? In terms of everything in terms of education. Okay, so. And then is that going to change anytime soon? I mean, not immediately now. Okay, so then if I and so then the question becomes.

Am I going to compete in this world? But we've already demonstrated that we do that. That's where we get twice as good, twice as work, twice as hard to compete. We already know we're being measured against white standards. But let's be honest and clear. When we talk about the general education, it's not general. It's white. It's not general.

It does not include all of the different. If I'm living in Iran, it's going to be Muslim in person. I got that. But that still doesn't make it general. I'm just saying if we don't frame it, let's frame it in general. It is general. It's not general. It's not specific. Oh, wait, can I chime in for a second? Particularly when you consider that more people of color dominate this world than white people. Well, listen. In terms of population. Exactly. Not in terms of power. So again, understood. OK. So if you, it's like, say for instance, and I heard you say this.

the other day. If you're speaking proper, people equate that to being talking white because that's how we've been trained. So, you know, if you talk, you know, proper, if you use the right dialogue, if you use the right words, that's considered talking white. And that's because we've been conditioned that coming up that, okay, anything that's proper, anything that said a certain way,

It's white people. I can I can be even more and it drives me nuts. Let's not even talk about how you sound. We're not gonna talk about your speech patterns. There's some people and this is not just black folks. Okay. There's some people that have a problem with intellect. Right. And that's being white. Yeah, that's been white. So what it does is now there's certain things out if I look at English literature, English literature is very cultural specific. Right. Math isn't. Biology isn't. Right.

You know and so when you look at those things and again, she talked about obviously her daughter had no problems when it came to literature She grew up in a home. She her reading is probably eight times what her grade level would be only because of her exposure She talked about the books when we start talking about math we start talking about things like science and engineering Right where people fall back. That's what made Craig him some of my heroes because

When Craig M went to tech, it was boys tech, highly technical school, right? So they had to go and do that whole math science test to get in, but they show mathematically because invented by people of color, but math has no color. All right? So what I'm saying is that when people can't even get to the basic kind of things,

Then what happens is because either we just give up either we don't see the benefits of it, you know, I My mother now Talk about black it in black My mama was militant militant militant like we didn't refer to white people in our houses as white people She called them hunks. That's all I heard every day one of the toughest decisions my mama made was to let me come from Parkman

to go to Dominican, right? And she made a choice. And she made that choice even against her most emotional instincts, which is to say, why do I need to send them out there with the white kids? And then you gotta understand, my mama was at North Division, where North Division was predominantly white, okay? So those things culturally goes into it. I wouldn't...

And I understand, I don't know if you remember a few years ago, they did a thing about, it was about residency in NPS. And they talked about the number of school teachers whose kids don't go to NPS. Right? Right? Right. Now, the problem I have with that is, you're part of the product, but you won't expose your kids to the project, that in and of itself. But educators understand what is good, great education.

But some of it is educators understanding and some of it is just what we see in general. And I don't care if you were educator or not, when you get to a certain situation economically, you make different choices. So whether you are the corporate executive, the attorney that's black, the doctor that's black.

It's not just because I'm an educator that I'm making different choices. You see these people make different choices all the time because the idea has been I want my kids to do better than I did and better typically means going to a predominantly white school. And so it doesn't matter if you're the educator, some of this becomes socio-economic. I'm in a different economic group and I can afford to send my kids somewhere else. The thing that always frustrates me though is that the same schools that educated you.

and put you in position to be able to create these opportunities for your children, like the number of black people that go to HBCUs. And they become vice presidents on a job and executives and directors. And then when they start having children, now their kids can only go to the, you know, the white, predominantly white schools. And they say that when they chest off, puffed out, my child's at Duke, my child's over here. But it was Gremlin or it was Fisk or it was

Um, a Harry or, you know, um, Alabama state that put you in position to even create the life. So how much of that has had to afford in your time, whether it's had to or had to was important position to be able to do it. And so to no longer value those schools other than to go back for homecoming, you know, and go to a game that drives me crazy because it was those institutions that educated more black people than any white university has ever done.

And it is those institutions that created black middle class. Most of the black teachers went to black schools. And then you turn around and won't send your kid to a black HBCU. I mean to a HBCU. That's us. That's us. And that drives me crazy that the schools was good enough to educate you. Now you making bread.

And now your kids is too good to go to them damn schools. Then you walk around and see your kids be all flaky acting and crazy and not understanding their own community half the time. All of that drives me crazy. All of that drives me crazy. You're listening to Community Voice. We're going to take a break and we'll be right back. Welcome back to Community Voice and again now.

Michelle and I were talking about the article that Hannah Nicole Jones did in the New York Times magazine this weekend about a choice she made in terms of her child's education. And it resonated with me on a lot of different levels. You know, again, looking at my own life experience, looking at how things, the cultural impact I was telling, I was telling right out and Michelle off air that

Even though I went to predominantly white institutions, I have no close white friends That's crazy because man, I just went to my was in my 30 class reunion and some of my right friends that I haven't saw in years when they saw me And it was just like we just picked up from

But I'm saying, but we didn't carry on that relation. Now, high school is it's different because normally you some people have the same friends in high school. But if you go off and do something else, usually your adult friendships are usually things that you met people in your adult life. Yeah. But I didn't even at the Mount. I had no close white friends for whatever reasons. There were there were people there that I liked that I talked to.

but it was, all my friends were black. Man, and you don't, all my girlfriends were black. Man, like in school, I had some white friends that would actually come over to the house, hang with us, man, play ball in the yard, play video games, you know, I mean, we run it all through the house. And it was just, you know, they would come over and they'd be like, man, y'all, you know, y'all do this and this and that and that.

You know, we don't and I'm like, wow, that says it was just a whole different culture. It was like a culture shock to them because they was like, man, it's like everybody in the neighborhood is overhanging out and you know, playing ball and you know, mom is cooking and like everybody is sitting around having fun. And he was like, I didn't think it was like this. And that's the other piece of it that that's what segregation does. Yeah. You know,

Look, a lot of what we have is because we had to. You know, you have HBCUs because black, certainly when they were formed, they couldn't get into white schools. So, and that's what I don't understand why they talking about. Why they got they own it? Why they got they own it? Well, we wouldn't have our own stuff if, if y'all didn't exclude us. But since we was excluded and y'all wouldn't include us in anything, we said, hey, you know what, let's start our own.

And then we could do our own, but now you got an issue with us starting our own talking about his Discrimination. No, we just got tired. I could I could tell you and I'm not a trained pedagogic with you know in terms of pedagogy which is teaching children But I know in any situation resources matter, of course resources matter if of course and and so when we we will sit up and go well, you know, we had yeah, we had to

It wasn't ideal and in spite of. But then the question becomes, how come then that's what the whole equity argument is about, right? It is that we should have access to resources where we can be fully realized, in this case, as American citizens. Well, I mean, let's look at it even on a smaller scale. When you look at these grocery stores,

The reason why we gotta go farther out to the white people is because the food that's out there is fresh. Compared to some of the stuff that's given to us, that's the last of the Mohicans that's on the truck. So they deliver that stuff that's not fresh to us. The fruits, the meats, whatever it is, it's not fresh. And you notice that. But why is that? Well, because again, it's

Systematically set up like that and what when we say systematically set up by that. What does it mean that it's your money? So are you not and I were out? We were out at the Walgreens on a hundred and fifty-fifth and Silver Spring. Okay out there. So what's that a butler?

I noticed as soon as I walked in, well, what wasn't locked up? Of course, deodorant, all this other stuff that's locked up in inner city. Now, I get it. And I understand why it's locked up in the inner city because if you're just trying to pay your rent, you know, and they call it sundries, things like that, it becomes a luxury. And so then, you know, whatever choices you're making, those are the things, not what they did lock up.

And there's been studies about when the economy is bad, lipstick, shoplifting goes up. That's how you can tell the economy is bad. And I don't know if that's still true, Daniel, back in the day. There was some high-end cosmetics, but everything else? Well, it seems like in the inner city,

When you just like you said that when you go into like these stores these war months and Walgreens they got The stuff locked up, but the stuff that's locked up Is the things that people need and not want it's a need so the stuff in it. They're still in like soap Two-pays and deodorant That's not stuff that you hey man. I just want this so I'm gonna take it

No, this is stuff that I need. It's a necessity. So. No, yeah, I think the economics, the economics really matters. And that's why when you talk about this neighborhood, if you just go and look at.

We look at home ownership look at what what medium income is your medium income in that neighborhood determines what businesses are going to be in that neighborhood the great example I found out was I'm back in it not too long ago Sendix opened up a location out on Miller Parkway. Yeah, and it didn't do well. It didn't do well. That's Milwaukee, West Dallas. Yeah, all these is doing real well

Why? It's cheap. It's cheaper. That is the income. And these, these, so when you build, why aren't they building it here? It's not going to be supported here. I mean, that's, that's just the economic reality that people have to have to face. And we say it's cause we black. No, they're not going to put a sentence. And obviously West Milwaukee, West Alice is not a black community. Right? Now, if you put a lot of Latinos, if you, if you just like how was the audience there is something that's.

familiar to them and they know, hey, they can afford all these. Cendix, when you start talking about Cendix, that's why Sir Max does so well, right? That's why L. Ray does so well. We're talking about on the south side, because you're looking at your market. You know, it's like people say, why don't we have sit down restaurants? Your neighborhood doesn't support.

Certain types of sit down restaurants. We had it on Fond du Lac. No, not Fond du Lac. Was it Fond du Lac? Which one? Midtown. When we had the Applebee's in Midtown. Doctor, when I tell you, that sit down restaurant turned into a club. It wasn't just the Apple. It was the one out on State Street. And it was the one on Green Bay too. There was a brown deer. I remember I hopped in on Oakland, man, and they had the clothes I hopped down. Dot.

because we're not going there fighting this morning and but but what I wanted to chime in on is is something you know uh I see it every day if I were to go every day people are stealing yeah not out of their own need but what they know they can sell well that's so but you still that's so economic need right but I'm but what I'm saying is is if you come I frequent a little water and a whole of mine and you can come in with certain things nobody's interested right right

Meets stuff like that. Sometimes you can sell that meat. Sometimes you can't they don't know how long it's been in the cooler You could have been dumpster diving anything, but you come in with deodorants Soaps and body wash and socks that stuff sells just like that and that is true That is true because I've and they didn't steal it for them They stole it because they knew they could sell it but but but on the flip side of that Even though they knew that they can sell it. It was a need they needed the money for whatever it

Issue or situation. Yeah, but not necessarily to pay a bill. Well, I mean we don't know that unless you own June bugs of money Hey, it's still a bill that Somebody explain to me how homeless people have cell phones. Where do they try government? Oh, whether they charge it wrong. Well, you know what? We go say that for tomorrow because I'm gonna figure that out. I'm gonna go home tonight We gonna figure that thing out for you

Hey, but you know what, Keith, when you talk about the cosmetic and the makeup off that way, because it's likely for them to steal that, then likely for us to steal more. No. No, no, no, no. Yeah, that's how I see it. Yeah. See what? White folks steal just as much as women. No, not anymore. Because they're not being watched. I mean, we immediately become the focus by the security department.

Excuse me, I will use my word, my quota. Nigga, how you think you got here? You better stole it. They been stealing for years. People don't steal. They stole us. No. They stole the land. No, hold on. I didn't say they didn't steal. No, no, no. I'm just kidding. They didn't. Toss it up and use my original plan, right? Stop, crack, before you get these folks babble later. Yeah, doc. Stop right you behind. Call the work and do the program.

You know, I got a couple, couple of

I got them two of them outside too. Oh, they come again, huh? They come plug in and you see seven, eight of them sitting around like it's a bonfire. You should make them put in on your energy bill. And I have to set the power off. Yeah, because I got to switch on the inside. Really? Not only that, they taking baths on your water tank.

They know how to live off the fat of the land. I don't get it twisted

Man, they would not do that. No, man. Listen, that's too much like work. No, no, no, no. Check this out, man. I actually pulled up on one guy that had said that he was hungry. I was I was at the McDonald's. He said he was hungry. So I said, hey, man, I will buy you something to eat. This cat looked at me and said, I don't want none from here. I want to go somewhere else. Well, brother, you ain't hungry. Are you not hungry? You just you just you ain't hungry enough.

I bought a guy some burgers from Checkers one day. He had them too, because I knew he was not in the garbage can. He took those, took them in his pocket and continued to eat out the garbage can. We're talking about some people out now with mental health issues.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

um, impoverished and some of them accepted, you know, and, and if you can get outside that handout and do something for yourself and help the next person to lay, to lay itself up, it'd be nice. I'm not saying that they don't need help. You know, the Bible even said they're always going to be poor among you. But what part of this that when you, I know educated folks,

that they got caught up in the system using drugs and now begging on corners for knifes. And that's one thing I'm trying. I'm getting ready to open the outreach center. I got attorney working on an occasion trying to help those that can get help because there was a young lady telling me one time, hey, she want to help, but she couldn't get it right just because she didn't have a cell phone.

Is that you? Is that your picture? Yes, sir. I thought so. Wait a minute. And if she did have one, you are going to let her charge it on your pole, right? Let me fix this for the first time. I did. So what is the answer to that? We're going to make sure she couldn't charge it. I called them, and they said, if I take her to St. Joseph, that they would, they can help her get over there.

And I took up the same jokes of it. She said, you coming in with me. I said, I got to get home with my daughter. I said, I can just as far as I can take you from here. And I found out a week later, they kicked her out of there and won't give her the necessary help. Wow. Yeah, I mean, those are challenges, though. I mean, and there's a lot that goes into it. I got to take a break. But let me, Frank. Y'all, have you looked custard on that? Yeah, man. She been there since.

since I pulled up, me and Frankie was talking yesterday and he was talking about now. He's shifted this whole thing. I said, I thought the quarterback was the most important position in pro football. He said, no, he thinks it's free safety. And then he was having the conversation and he remembers something that I said. I said that for for a quarterback, they teach you technique, right? Teach you, trust the technique. Right. And I pointed out to him, I said, very few people.

had the make-up speed that Dion Sanders had or Daryl Green. Right. They could make mistakes, but they had the most of us don't have that make-up speed when we make mistakes and I, oh, I'm preaching now. Oh, don't try to steal it, brother preacher. But we don't. The make-up speed. Some of us just don't have that make-up speed. Look at your neighbor say it, the make-up speed. That's right. And that's the thing is that those who don't have the make-up speed.

those who do in the community, like yourself, myself, and Deke said next to you, or in the other brother, the thing here is that we have it. If we can learn to just hand out a little bit of it, have some passion, you know, if we just always take the grace that God give us, and think it's for me, me, me, and we can't hand it back out in no formal fashion in life, something's wrong. What was it? Who is MPMD?

Who says who said trust the technique? Don't trust the technique is it don't trust is it don't trust Okay

Welcome back to Community Voice and I have the package for the Fisk Jubilee Singers and Koti Dancers, the Milton House fundraiser this Saturday in Jamesville, Wisconsin. You can call them out. You answer the question, you get the package 414-444-5250-414-444-5250. Again, let's go in then.

Look at the comments. Let's see. All right. And let me do this again. I'm going to say this to folks. If you're going to go, go. We give away tickets a lot of times for people. And then, you know, life happens. Somebody who probably really could have gone and you can't go. So I know people like that. The I won.

but understand I'm a winner. All right, Carla, welcome to the program. Good morning. Turn your radio down. What's up? No. Do you know what you're calling to win for?

No, I'm just do you know? Okay This is a multiple choice question What city is fist University in Memphis, Tennessee, Knoxville, Tennessee, Nashville, Tennessee Appreciate you. Hold on right out. Give you the information

Good morning, how are you? What's up? Yeah, he just won man

What books do you revisit often? What books do you revisit often? What books do you revisit often?

I think because of vocation, it would probably be the Bible. Just because, you know, vocation, that's what I do. What is a book that I went back and read? Oh, I was just talking about it. Malcolm Gladwell's David and Goliath. Yeah, I read that one often.

All right. Thanks, Keith. All right. Appreciate you. So, Keith, they got two more games and make the hundred. Yep. Okay, let's go and go back up to the, uh, what up, Henry Peters, class of 83. Out there with my sister. All right. Let's see. Don't sweat the, don't sweat the technique. Rakeem. Rakeem, right here. Yeah. Rakeem.

Oh God, I used to get the smothered pork chops from them in the past. Got to make it to a point to frequent more often. Talk about the bungalow. Yeah, okay. You know what I'm talking about? I might go Thursday and get a dinner for the Packer game. I asked last week if it'll be going to the bungalow in Tonys on North Avenue or Nino's. Yep.

No, no, they're talking about they need to buy some advertising. So I'm not going to mention them because anybody advertises. I thought the Milton House event was Saturday. It is Saturday, September 26. Let's see. I thought all media outlets were standing in solidarity with CNN. Why is ABC? Actually, if ABC is showing the UN speeches through the pool, it'll be through the UN feet. So it is not the pool. It's the UN feet.

And if you ever go to New York Go visit the United Nations That is a great tour That's a that's a yeah, man. It's a lot of fun. It's a great tour. So man, if you if you go yeah visit Visit the visit the US Caller welcome to the program. Hey, I'm good. How are you?

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By restricting cars or that's by us trembling is No, I don't what numbers I don't okay. All right Yeah, the our quack team is pulling it up You don't give your team enough credit man, you said exactly right. There's just the most standard people in that team. Yes

And actually what I should have said was my crackish. I'm like, crack you can feed me. What did Whitney Houston say? She said, I don't do crack. I just smoke cocaine. OK. All right. So she's out a little crackish. I have nothing. Nothing. Nothing. All right. They pull enough of the number.

Well, you know what? You can listen for it. Let me get the next caller. All right. Thank you, man. I appreciate it, man. Carla, welcome to the program. Yeah, I heard y'all talk about people that stealing. They ain't using that money to live. They're using that money to buy dope. Let's keep it 100. They never hungry. You know, they live so long because all they do is get high in fast all day. Y'all can take that from your Bible. That's why they outlive Jesus and to know his God.

They ain't using that money. If they're living, they're using that money to buy dope. But what we gotta do is make it unbearable for them to be here. That's why you don't have no pay-never bread, no Chipotle, no Okanuba, none of that stuff. Make it uncomfortable. But the problem is, they wanna house the deplorable.

Why would you want to house the deplorable? You care more about people than they care about yourself. And this is why we're having this problem. It's easy for them to steal. But you don't see them roam in other neighborhoods, like the guy who said they're stealing his electricity, put a couple of rat traps around there, and let them break a toe and shake it like a tail feather, understand me? Do you know what I mean?

They want to touch your water hose, put some roofing nails around it. Okay, you tell them that was the power of they died and guess what? They still going to steal and get high because all they do is fast. That's why they walk around here talking about they got acid reflux. They don't got acid reflux. It's dope. So Al, so what's going to happen if you put the rat traps down and your animal get caught in it?

Well, if you don't have no animals, you don't have to worry about it. But if they're on your property, like an animal, well then they got they five minutes to change their lives.

And now they got an open door to get close to God. And God ain't going to even want them up there because they're going to be selling the tables and the chairs that sell it for air mass and dough. The streets of gold, they're going to take the streets of gold. They're going to take that too. Jesus is going to sit down on the toilet and sit on the floor because they sold that for $7. And they still don't sell it because a junkie ain't never hungry. All right, man, we appreciate you. Have a good day.

Street's on, baby, let it go. Have you heard of a city that the streets are made for? Please, y'all, don't steal in here, man. 414-441-6991. That's the talk-to-text line. If you're interested in those tickets, again, 414-441-6991. That's the text-to-talk line.

Call and welcome to the program. Good morning. Good morning, brother. How you doing, man?

to this day that who will say it one more time because he was breaking up. No, I said today is one hundred and sixty four years ago that the Emancipation Proclamation was passed by Congress. Oh, oh. Appreciate that. You know what I missed yesterday. Thank you. I appreciate it. Yesterday was September 21st.

Do you remember? I don't know how that got past me. But my buddy called me and he said, hey man, serious, the groove is Earth, Wind and Fire Channel. And they said, oh, September 21st. Today is the first day of fall. I'm surprised you didn't pull that in, Maino. Well, I didn't get a chance to actually do meteorologist's man, Condela, because we had a lot on the docket today. So I figured that we'll get straight to it.

I didn't want to take up time. Yeah, so yesterday so

when I turned to say I ain't doing those narcotics anymore. That's that's that's what you do on real dope feed. Because they call it narcotics when they send them to give them profits. Yeah, I ain't doing those narcotics anymore. Yeah, they send them to the meeting. I want to be in the meeting.

Oh man. I used to because back in the day they did call it dope. They did call it dope. Give up the dope. The dope was originally that was kind of a side to heroin, right? Yes, sir. And then it expanded because some of the old people they thought weed was dope. Yeah. Smoking that. Smoking that. Smoking that. Smoking that. Smoking that. Smoking that. Smoking that.

That's what he was doing. That's what he went through his whole game

talking about original OG. You can't leave vibrato out now. Like the brother called last week and reminded me of what's going on. Fly the friendly skies. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I can't believe, man, boy, he's trying to, he was trying to be all drunk and hard and it's like, dude, they don't even call us smoking dope anymore. Hey, man, I got to ask you a question while he's looking for that record. You ever been with one of your guys, man, and they trying to get down on their self, they just beating their self up? So one day me and Clark were riding, right? He said, man, I get so tired of people hating on me, man. They be hating on me. They tell the boundaries. Don't hire him.

Because his equipment might quit on it. It might power my shut off. Record star is skipping. I said, well, Clark, is there any truth to it? He said, yeah. They ain't hating on me, man. They just hate Clark. No, I feel you, man. Because at American Baptist College,

Those dudes couldn't stand me, man. They couldn't. To this day, they don't know my first name is Keith. He can pass. He can pass. I mean, the way they said it, right? So I was talking to Dr. Demetrius Williams, and I was saying, man, those dudes, man, I didn't say they hated on me. I said, they hated me down there. He said, oh, brother, you know, you know how people be hating. I said, no, I gave them a reason. I definitely gave them a reason. I couldn't stand me.

All right. Bring us down, Clark. Gang banging. He said we weren't exaggerating. Gang banging. Who talked him into that, man? Whoever did, they need to be. Maybe he was doing narcotics. Maybe he was smoking that door. Because I got high. Because I got high. I did the song I should have never did. Because I got high. Yeah.

You know what let me let me say this to all you og og triple og's bang bang You ain't young no more. Yeah, give it up man. Give it up now. I don't see the video. He didn't have on like gangbanger. No, yeah, I don't know. You know, black and blue black and blue. Oh, okay. Game. What game has light blue as a color?

I haven't heard our song in a while. It's deep. Yeah, it is. It's like down to blue. But anything that falls under the blue. So you got the Crips. You got the Rolling Sixties, right? Yeah, anything red is blood. So you got the Rolling Sixties. So you got a great street Crips. You got BOS. You got all of those that falls under there. And that's why Blackie? Blackie, uh, go. Bumblebee. No, Blackie. Go, Blackie Kicks. Oh, really? Yeah. Hey, man, I haven't heard our record in a while. Which one?

stop hollering at the law. Oh my god. I told you I showed that to my my folks down in Florida. Oh really? They roll. They roll. They roll. Stop hollering at the law. You ever seen the clock? It is deep. Up with hope. Down with dope. Wait, we was at church and he said

Is that that dude from the video? He was talking about Ariel Smith, right? He called him. Say what he called Randy Watson. Yeah. That's him. I don't know why nobody, nobody, sorry about that bad English. I don't know why no one seems to be able to get when I say Mr. Randy Watson's back again. What's the name of that band again? Somebody just mentioned that the brewers just need to win too.

It's St. Louis. Is that the series tonight? I thought I heard this morning that we need one. No, to get to 100. Well, no, this might have they broken the season, season record. They broke the season record, but they need one to actually pitch the box. But you know, it's crazy. That game Saturday was the first one zero game. They won this year.

Yeah, that game Saturday. Was it Saturday or Friday? Whatever it was when it was 1-0, that was the first. Shut it off. No, only like 1-0. Well, that's not a complete shutout, but it is a shutout. Age ain't nothing but a number. I'm just saying. Smoking that dough. Smoking that dough.

And I had to say, it's about one of the forms that I did. Everybody can tell me what you can do for us. You're not telling me what you will do with us in terms of hiring, in terms of positions, any of this.

You're all going to have some real difficult, you know, days ahead. Some people, some people not. You already know who you're voting for. But this is not a done deal for me. It's not. And I've been here with some disturbing things. Like, since David quality is out of the race, they're, you know, like all of everybody's expected to line up and vote for the black guy in the race. Yeah, that ain't how this work.

Because I'm still asking people about your track record. I'm still paying attention to what you're doing. I'm still paying attention to who the hell you hire. And if you keep figuring out a way to come up with all Lily White teams and you can't figure out how to get no diversity, no people of color, why am I talking to you? Because you're going to keep me in the same position that I've been in.

So I am encouraging people to be smart with your votes. And everybody's going to be like, well, can so and so win? Can so and so win? Can so and so beat Tiffany? And y'all need to be more pragmatic. And y'all need to, you know, I'm done with the greater good. I'm done with it. Because don't nobody be worried about black folks greater good, including some of these damn black folks. I'm done with the greater good.

And I'm not dumb. I'm not stupid. I'm not politically immature. I understand all the things we have to do to try to position ourselves to get some of these people out of power. I work for government and it's almost a reflex action to circle the wagon. I deny, deny.

You know, it's just reflexive. Denied, denied, denied. I got frustrated sometimes with our leadership as opposed to addressing what's causing the error. They immediately went into defensive mode. Okay. Now, when you really own some BS, the first thing you're going to do is deny, deny, deny, deflect, right? And then lie, right? Now, let me say this. A lot of times it's not the original sin.

It's to cover up the dust. But what was cool is that there were 150 young black and brown young men, um, high school age, all dressed in black suits, these beautiful red ties, uh, and they had come in from New York, Florida and Cali. And there was this moment.

And they all sat together in this one section. They walked in together. It was really, really powerful. But there was this moment when King Carter's father, the six-year-old who had been killed, you know, like 11 years ago, when his father said to the young brothers, he said, how many of y'all are 17? And a number of them raised their hands. He said King would have been 17 this year. He would have been out there with y'all.

And one of the kids, it was just like crazy because it was, you know, it was quiet. And one of the kids yelled out, he is here. He's with us. We are him. And the father, I thought the father was going to just be gone. I mean, he thanked the young brother. He said, thank you so much for saying that, bro. But it was just this really, really powerful moment. We knew what this dude did and what he was up to in his first term.

How anybody thought that somehow an old leopard could change its spots? It's not true. And for the people who, you know, the evangelicals and all those folks who, you know, we go in and that truck was sent by the Lord.

Welcome back. I'll never be able to sing that song in church again without a straight face. Yeah. Call and welcome to the program.

Good morning. Good morning, Rebeth. What's happening? Well, that was a real good, this weekend. Man, stop it, man. You got to tell me. That was a real good man this weekend. You know, and keep, keep your real quiet when you start talking about the package, man. Can we get a little spill of some power? No, that's because you're being sarcastic. I'm trying to figure out, we were here yesterday. Right. Right. We don't want to talk about it.

Yeah, I understand that, but I would, I would relax and work my feet together on my bed. So now I'm going to call you while I'm at work. So, so I can get paid while I'm talking crazy to y'all. Okay. I can't wait to see y'all lose. I can't wait. I'm going to call you. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. This dude has reminded me more and more of Tommy.

I ain't dead anymore. I moved across the street and on the building.

I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell you this again. Remember, real season game. How about that one? November. So that, so that is last November. Last November. Okay. Yeah. It's coming up. It's coming up. It's coming up on a year fast as we lost. We're going to deserve it, but.

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No, it's the left. It's the left elbow. Yeah, man. The the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the

them points next week. Oh, yeah. But I'm going to tell you what really happened and what people is not talking about that I know, that I believe that this is real. Any and everybody that has been on the mat and cover, soon as the season. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They got the drinks on them, huh? And this is what happened. This cat is they say, man, that he might be hurt for the rest of the season. Really? Oh, no. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. They said it's severe.

Yeah, but they said, they lied and said it's weak. If you rip the hamstring, it's about six weeks. Yeah, but if you rip it from the bone, doctor, that's what it takes time for you. They're in trouble. I don't see the play. He was running on wet grass and slipped on the wet grass. And you know how that feeling is when you slip and you hit that hamstring? Yeah. Let me tell you, I went to the game Sunday. The truth be told, I was recovering.

We're covering on Monday, you know, the game on Sunday, the Seahawks in Arizona. I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna tell you this. I didn't DJ for about 20 plus years, right? I do not, I do not want to be, I do not want to be around that many people in my life. That's 7,000 people. Yeah, that's a lot of people man.

That's a lot. You know what, you're so used to watching. My son said he just wanted to let you know. Man, he said I'll never want no choreo, no more ever, dude. Talking about the loop, man. It takes forever, man. What the other thing is, you used to watch the TV, watch the game on TV. Yeah, totally different. That's what it does, too, when you're watching it live. Yeah, totally different. They're the best seats in the house, when they say the best seats in the house.

Yeah, but I haven't been in several games, but I guess this time it goes a little different and I don't want to be around these people in my life no more. Well, it's nothing like having the announcers you in and watching the TV screen and you hear the announcers announce the game because going to the game is a different experience. But just watching on TV here in the commentators is

it's just for me. I like that. And you know, but you know, no, but yeah, but but if you go to you, but you see people with headphones, you're like, why not headphones on? Because they listen to the game. Yeah. But then I think the other piece of it is like, especially the football game, the way that they break it up on television, you can see. Now, if you're watching the game, I'm trying to look, I'm trying to find some follow the safety, trying to figure out what they're doing, what formations they in, and it's it is, and depending on where your seats are. Yeah.

Man, it's a different experience. It's a different experience. I mean, I haven't been to so many games, but I guess, like I said, this time, I don't ever want to be around 70,000 people anymore. He got that show where we was gone for half time, and not seeing the game afterwards when I got home, but I'm never going to experience that. I tell you, man, you don't want to be in Times Square during the summertime.

not even because even because even when the Packers come here because either the city you come from, they take over the stadium in Arizona because everybody's a melting pot. So whatever team come like the Packers, the Cowboys, or even go to the baseball game like the Dodgers or the Yankees, they come in town and they take over.

Didn't like when the Seahawks can't make they take over but she just it just is there's so many people plus people who not even go out to the game They go out to the bars and the local bars is close to it. Yeah, you don't want to be around none of that There's so many people plus leaving that joint. Yeah, I was gonna say man leaving that joint gotta be hell We did we went down to hard rock to see the Packers and the Dolphins We had to go and find the Uber get out to where Uber was

Man, that was such a long walk. I'm not used to that in football game. Yeah, I tell you. And just imagine that Uber, that Uber part cost you $10 during the daytime, but catch that Uber football game. Get your $100 together. Yeah. Get your $100 together, because that's what you got to pay, because he's going to have to maneuver to get to you. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. All right. All right now, brothers. Wow. You want to play it? You got the clip.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do.

I'm going to ask you a question now. You've asked me three questions. Now it's my turn. Do you think the economy is better off now than it was when Joe Biden left office? Yes or no? It is that Joe Biden had never done that debate and made the mistake that he made in the debate. If he had run against Trump in the election in November of 2024, would you have voted for Biden?

Yeah, I'll answer that by saying I would have voted for a vegetable or a ham sandwich over Donald Trump. Does that answer your question? Okay, that answer is good. So you would have voted for him no matter... I think Mitch McConnell, I would vote for Mitch McConnell right now over Donald Trump because I think a vegetable would do... I'm trying to answer your question. I think a vegetable would do less damage to this country than the damage that Donald Trump has done to this country. I'll explain.

A vegetable wouldn't have gotten us into a war in Iran and ill advised an illegal war. A vegetable wouldn't have done the tariffs. A vegetable wouldn't have said 47 days of training for ICE officials. A vegetable wouldn't have sold pardons. A vegetable wouldn't have made illegal deals with other world leaders. And by the way,

terrorist leaders with a $5.5 billion resort or a $400 million gift that he received. So even Mitch McConnell being the vegetable that he is, and by the way, Joe Biden wasn't a vegetable, but even somebody like Mitch McConnell wouldn't have gotten us in the danger that we are in right now. So yes, to answer your question, I'm being very specific and I gave you examples. I would have voted for a ham sandwich over Donald Trump. But then again, you're the guy who voted for Donald Trump because you didn't want to vote for Kamala and you're part of the reason why we're in a situation that we're in right now.

Okay, well good deal. I mean, you know, you vote for whoever you want to. Well, well, geez, thank you for that. I really appreciate you allowing me to vote for whoever I want. Thank you. I didn't know that. That's very nice of you, Herb. Back in the day. Guess what? You're the reason. No, you're the reason why we're in this state that we're in right now. Idiots like you. No, no, no, you calm down. No, I'm not. Tell that to the people that are dying in Iran right now. You scumbag. You're the reason why we're in this situation right now, Herb. You can hang up the phone if you want to. Either way, I don't care because you're a coward.

You're the reason why we're in the situation we're in right now, Herb. We're the economy. What do you mean? Okay. Are you happy with your vote? Are you happy with your vote?

Are you happy? Yeah, you're happy. Oh really? Why are you happy? What has he done well? Why are you happy? Yeah, of course. You're happy because you're an ignoramus. That's why, because all the stupid idiots like you in this country voted for this guy. And it's why inflation is through the roof. It's why unemployment rate is higher. And it's why we're in an ill-advised and illegal war while he talks about building a ballroom and enriching himself. And dummies like you who are brainwashed by Fox News and Newsmax are the reason why we are in this situation where

right now in this country. And you want to call in here and you want to ask me if Joe Biden didn't have that terrible debate performance, would you still have voted for him? You're damn right. I would have voted for a ham sandwich over Donald Trump. But you decided to vote for the liable sexual abuser 34 count felon pedophile enabler. That's right.

That's who you voted for, Herb. So when you wake up in the morning, you ignoramus and you look at yourself in the mirror, you remember all those people out there right now that are suffering, that have lost their healthcare coverage, those brave men and women that are coming home in caskets right now. And the most corruption we've seen from any president in American history, it's partly because of you and all the other dummies who voted for this guy. What do you think about that dummy? Can I ask you one more thing? Oh, I can't wait. I can't wait. Go ahead. Okay. With all the money that you talk about this being wasted.

Aren't you glad that some administration is going out and getting some of these people that are committing all this fraud and all this money? How much money have they saved? How much money have they saved?

How much money have they answered the question? How much money have they saved? Excuse me. So when you make a question, are you going to be quiet now? I know you've said a lot of money multiple times. When you asked me about the money that apparently Donald Trump has saved the nation,

i'm asking you a ballpark of how much you know why i'm asking you that herb because the war has cost us close to 50 billion dollars the tariffs are off the americans consumer hundreds of billions of dollars and we are in a war right now that is endless we continue to do nothing apparently trump hasn't been able to end the war in ukraine that's costing us a lot of money and the aid that we're giving to israel but you want to talk about all well you got all those undocumented immigrants out there it's it by the way a lot of people would say it's the opposite that it's hurting the economy so let me ask

Let me ask you a question, Herb. Now it's my turn. I've answered all your questions. No, I'm going to ask you a question now. You've asked me three questions. Now it's my turn. Do you think the economy is better off now than it was when Joe Biden left office? Yes or no? Question. Is the economy better off now than it was when Joe Biden left office? Yes or no? Answer the question. Oh, I think the economy is booming, buddy. Okay. By what standard? By what economic metric are we booming right now? Please tell me. By what? No, no, no, no, no. Answer my question. By what?

economic metric are we booming right now answer the question if you if you heard yesterday what was said when they raise the the percentage rate well I heard yesterday about what they said when they raised the percentage rate do you know you can't even put a sentence together let me ask you again by what economic metric are we better off today than we were when divided office answer the question dummy okay well we're not

but let me wait wait you can't you just said the economy is booming name me a couple economic metric standards where we're better off today than we were when biden left why won't you answer the question answer the question i can't answer because you're a dumbass have a nice day dumbass no you can't ask me another question the average IQ of a trump supporter herb is the perfect example the economy is booming

Name me an economic metric where we're better off today than we were when Joe Biden left office. Uh, did you hear what they said yesterday about interest rates? What the F is he talking about? The guy can't name one thing. Wow. That is an example of your typical Trump supporter that is dumb as a doornail. Brook Keith. Wow. What did you hear there, man? Wow. Wow. It was good. Wow.

Yeah, I'm just ripped him a new one. But you know what? It's a lot of people that think like this cat. Yeah, a lot of people that think like this. But couldn't answer one question. I could answer. But then because they've been brainwashed and again, we had this conversation earlier with Trump luncheon. Trump TV is designed to brainwash the people. So it's going to tell you how good Trump is going to tell you how good this this is. But it's really brainwashing the people, man. Remember, I had Eric Wallace. Yeah.

Kind of same thing. Carla, welcome to the program. Yeah. Good morning. Good morning. That was excellent. But you know what? They just, you know, they keep repeating some mouths since Trump say, and keep repeating, and me dumbies buy it, sell it, lock, stock, and barrel. Just like he just said. But what's hurt will sound like a black man to me. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. Does say it. Yep. And there's a lot of.

Blacks I hate to say it that think like this guy like he's not the only one that thinks like this No, I don't know I don't they get judgment they just say they want to be stuck on stupid legal I Feel sorry for a lot of them farmers that had that big old Trump sign on they land now. I don't feel sorry for them. No, no, no, no because

Again, and now we're being foreclosed. Yeah. Yeah. Because if you go rob the bank and you get caught, I'm not going to feel sorry for you. Paula, welcome to the program. Because you knew what she was doing. Good morning. Hello. Hello. Can you hear me? Yes. OK. Hello, she. This is a man. Hey, Annette. OK. I have a family member.

Do you hear me? Yes. Okay. I have a family member and my sister, she's my oldest sister, and she's a true new Trump supporter. The sun rises and sets in him. And so when I talked to her about the economic ramifications of what's going on in the war and all that stuff,

She immigrated, her biggest situation with him is the integration. She talks about, oh, how everybody's in this country, you know, and stuff. Is that my phone or what? Keep going, you're good. My family tells me not to discuss politics with her. I tried my best not to, but for two weeks I didn't even speak to her after that.

You know, because I'm the only one that discuss politics with it because she's in her 80s and she's got a son at home that she takes care of and he's in the 50s and she can lose his health insurance, et cetera. The thing that bothers me is she's so mega, mega, mega, mega, and she's a black woman. And I'm like, like, really? Seriously? Everybody wants to have hands off with you, but I'm not gonna do it.

I said, but you're not going to, you're not going to convince her either. No, I'm not going to convince her, but I, but you know, she doesn't want us to tell, she doesn't want the truth about it. She just, she just wants to shut it down all the time. And I can tell the last conversation we had, I said, I'm mother and father are gone. I said, and they went and I don't know what you think.

you know to deal with the racism and this man is bluntly a racist pig and you sit there and support him so much like you you know you can never the sun rises and steps in him with her why is that about some black people like her and i love my sister oh god i love her however what about the white people who support her and the white people that support him then

Let me tell you, they have the gall to sit back and say that he's trying to trim programs in the government because that's what the Republicans' job is to drain the swamp because they've always hated government spending from the beginning. And here and I know that

when the soldiers were gone, you know, in World War I or to whatever. When they came home, a lot of old people were dying because the money that they made, they didn't have a safety net for, instead of that, they were dying. So what Mr. Johnson did, he made, you know, a Hoover or whoever, they made sure that people had something. The government had to step in or people were dying on the streets of America.

You know, I try myself to educate myself. And I'm just wondering, when are we going to become educated people in America? And we really have got to fight by voting. And I just want to share that with you today. I hear everyone, but I hear these people on the radio and around my own experiences within my own family. All right. Appreciate you. OK. All right.

When I was talking to my nephew Jaylin and he academic scholarship Rice University graduating honors and It's funny, you know, he's formulating his political thought right and He was going on with me and he said he assured me he didn't vote for Donald Trump I said, okay, but then he said we conservatives

And I said, man, you're gonna have to define for me what it is to be conservative. Annette kind of pointed out that conservatism says that there are no social safety net programs. It is every man fence for themselves, survival of the fittest, the whole point. Republicans have been against safety net programs since the New Deal, right? And so,

They've always, they were opposed to Social Security, they were opposed to Medicare, certainly they're opposed to Medicaid, and certainly they are opposed, and I'm sorry for saying certainly two times, they are opposed to the Affordable Care Act. You cut these programs to pay for their tax cuts. That's why these programs are being cut because of tax cuts that went to the wealthy.

And then, you know, Trump can get on and talk about no tax on tips, no tax on social security. I mean, that has minimal content. And then we're bailing farmers out. Nobody's talking about that because of the tariffs. So there's a lot. And I was sitting there and as I was just getting more and more upset as I was listening to the clip, it's amazing that we haven't had a revolution.

because the damage that this guy has done with his enablers is going to be years for us to pull out of what he's doing right now. All right, Clark Kent.

Don't hold them on the water too long. Oh I was telling D about some of the parents used to say me hold him down just a little bit longer. Just a little bit longer. They are flailing. She knows how bad. It is really tough when they say hold the girls down because you know she bad.

Oh, my God. And of course, so all those people I'm drowning, I lied in my baptism, so he shouldn't drown me. All right, again, let me take everybody for being part of the program. Good Lord, Will and Creek, don't rise. Hope to talk to everybody tomorrow. And as always, go from this place in peace.