Exploring Community Challenges: Food, Poverty, and Change

Good morning. Welcome to Community Voice. I'm your host Keith Parris. I want to thank everybody for joining us this morning. Good morning, brother Debo. Good morning, brother. Keith, how are you feeling this morning? I'm good, sir. How are you? I always wonder. I'm good, but I always wonder when you come in and you're very, very quiet. Are you in deep thought or what's going on with Keith when I see that? Yeah, I'm usually in deep thought. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, that's what it is. I gave him my out. I said, I'm gonna talk to myself. Yeah, remember? Yeah, that's right. Apostle, what's up, man? Bishop, chairman of the board. God bless you. How's it going, man? And they both answered our station on November 3rd. David Crowley, DJ Fish does the same with their fish. Their fish fillets are...

I naturally tend. Yeah, because they ain't real. There's no way there's any fish that fed. Yeah. I mean, unless there's it's a it ain't real, man. Well, you know what I've what I've found is that there are different. It's why I told you this once before, Jermaine, I always pretty much I used to like filets, but I stay away from them now because you don't know what you're getting. Yeah. It'd be hard for you to fool me.

with catfish steaks. Right, because of the bones. Yeah, I know what I'm getting there. But you know what, nowadays, man, I know this is going to sound crazy. But if they can create animals, they can create bones and all that other structure to... Conspiracy with the cube. I say with a Z with this one, man, because again, I've been telling y'all, man, that food that's over there that they call catfish is not fish, it's not...

Man, that's dolphin man. That's that's that's they're not they're not manufacturing it so I mean Yeah, but we yeah, but when you try to sell it to me as cat and try to confuse me and you like that's like some of these places But you do realize that more than you got Farm raised cat. Yeah farm. Well, are you contains the farm or like you can taste the difference is farm raised because of allow allow allow

Allow for Muslims is what is allowable for them to eat. It's like kosher Dietary cold, okay, and so Yeah, I don't I think they're probably getting it from because most catfish now is farm. Yeah, you know caught from the wild right so Yeah, but I like it China China has cat that's a different kind of catfish

Yeah, it depends on but if it's usually You know, it's a little bit of history here back in the I want to say meant to late 70s. No, it would have been earlier than that the honorable Elijah Muhammad had They did it they had a deal and you know, the nation of Islam had restaurants and so they had whitey

And they were getting it directly from, you know, Arabs. And so that relationship, I mean, that goes back, like I said, years in terms of it. But I didn't think, and I don't have to look, man, just look it up. It's catfish allowable. I know that, I know they're not around anymore, but I know a restaurant in particular that was selling the infamous Perch buckets. Oh, yeah.

But I just happened to be at restaurant Depot one day when they was getting 15 cases of sway. Yeah, that's why ever you're gonna pronounce it. Yeah. But the question is, cause some of those fish are in the same families. So it's like sway a part of the catfish family. Yeah. Well, even if it is, don't tell me it's cat and it's not. But then I'm not lying to you though. No, you are. It's still in the family. It's sway.

You're right out, but but you're an offspring of what? Look, okay, prime example. Let's use that. I like that I'm a ride out, but I have some other causes that are Like locks and Williams and all that stuff, right? So I wouldn't say that at the end of the day Williams Y'all got same blood though. So we say blood line Okay, so so y'all still

Same thing, but it ain't a right. They ain't right. I'll stay with us. That's just what they call you. Yeah. But no, if if you selling me cat, keep what you come up with. I want me I'll make. We were doing this while you figured out. I'm looking at his phone down like you come up with. It says that most Sunni Muslims can eat catfish, but views differ depending on Islamic school of thought. The Sunni views. Hello, majority school, the Shafi.

The Maliki and the Himbali schools state that almost all sea creatures and fish are lawful to eat. The Hanafi school, the Hanafi school generally requires fish to have scales, but scholars have researched catfish and classified them as a valid type of fish, making them permissible. You can read more about the classification in the Sharia law. Shia views, so under Shia, so just so you know,

Sonys would be the Saudis Shia would be the Iranian some Iraqis Many Shia legal ruling state that fish must have visible scales to be eaten catfish status because catfish do not have traditional scales many Shia scholars consider them Impermissible you can read more on the viewpoint l Islam so so it's way apart the catfish family

But I don't think that you can advertise something as catfish, and it's not catfish. I don't think you can do legally. Right, right. Yeah, because that's false advertisement. Because when they were something with McDonald's, and they were advertising the shakes, and they really wasn't shakes. They really weren't shakes, yeah. And it was a lawsuit. Yeah. So I mean, I look, here's the other thing. That's different, though. That's not in the Shake family, whatever they were utilizing. Yeah, it was. It was still kind of... It wasn't like Mott or something like that? No, it was...

I don't know if you've seen the Michael Keaton movie founder and it's on Ray Kroc. He was in Minnesota and he was up. I think he was trying to expand franchises there. That's where he met his wife, Joe, the second wife. And they had come up with a way because part of the problem with doing a shake was you had to figure out how to store the ice cream, the milk. They came up with this pre-mix that was not really.

Oh, a shake. So I don't know if McDonald's uses real ice cream in their shakes now in terms of what it is. But here's my observation. One of the reasons why you won't see catfish places in Brookfield is the market is not there. Really?

Yeah, the market's not theirs folks and not eating fried catfish like certain other groups eat fried catfish and fried chicken and Think about trying to find a Kentucky fried chicken in Brookfield Try to find a Popeyes in Brookfield. Well, I mean, but I think that's I think that's strategically designed like that though. What do you mean? well Because you you find all of the unhealthy stuff

in our neighborhoods. That's because we buy. We buy it. I get it. But again, it's still if you put unhealthy stuff in front of hungry starving people and that's the options that they have, that's all you gonna buy. So then what's the other option? Not to have it there and then people don't have anything? Well, no, give us the good healthy stuff. Give us that. And we afford the good. Keith, how much of that comes down to city government, though? Do you think that, you know,

a while back in Chicago, they were trying to limit the number of fast food outlets they had in the black and distressed communities. But part of the problem was, yeah, we could be healthier, but it was also the people that were employed by those fast food restaurants. And so you had that whole economic argument. I'm not saying it's valid. I'm just saying that was the economic argument that people were making.

because people have jobs. Look, the good food cost, I'm sorry to put it that way, but if you're really trying to do healthy foods, natural foods, that costs more money. I mean, but doctor, we got it because we spend money on unnecessary stuff, like $400 shoes and $500 bills. So it ain't that the money is not there.

Why you're not looking people's videos, man? I mean, I'm just saying because you said that it's expensive to which it is. But it's not that we can't afford it. We just choose not to spend it that way. Because money is in the hood. Because if it wasn't, you wouldn't have these stores that come set up. But you know, we collectively spend more money than any other race of people. Right. So that's what I'm saying. So if you change our options,

and give us some good options because all this stuff that we're spending money on is that it has been passed down the line, generations down the line. So you might have seen uncle dressed like that. You might have seen, you know, granddaddy dressed like that. And that's what you want to do though. You want to spend that kind of money. So if we change, if we change the narrative of the neighborhood to healthy, healthier stuff. Keepers that the lady said.

Last week, I think the lady was in from the housing. She was like you driving the rain a land rover, but you own no land. Oh, no, right. Yeah. Well, I mean and that's that's that's our concern that you know people say fool I laugh every year doing Thanksgiving with people giving turkey giveaways because

Yeah, a lot of people or don't know how to cook because they have I mean you have a generation now Where fast food is a staple that's it and a lot of that is you know the scheduling in your life You know, I have a buddy who would say you know his mom cooked every day Right. She cooked every day, but that that's not that's not the case Yeah, how many families you see sit down exact dinner at five o'clock right and that's real scarce now because you got

People one that's all over the place. They still kicking it. They still so like when we grew up mama Like when we came home from school, we smell food cooking because she was getting stuff ready and prepared so the kids can eat do Do your homework take a shower or your bath and get ready for bed so you can do it all over again and I must say I Have noted and I find myself doing it all the time. I'm always looking at

Which is more prominent than I've ever seen it a lot of chefs and I'm seeing them use Fresh vegetables and they're cooking and you know like even like your smoked song and then your different dishes that we traditionally didn't get into exactly We've kind of broadened our horizons if you will from from that standpoint Even like jerk chicken stuff like I didn't eat that kind of stuff

But I kind of opened up a little bit and I've eaten some things that I like. Well, salmon, I didn't eat salmon though when we was younger. I think, but it's also exposure. You know, we eat jerk food because we have a West Indian presence here. And so, you know, that's a staple. You know, we did fried food here. See, but jerk always been here though. No, yeah.

I mean, you you'd have people always had like spices. Jerk is just a spice that people use. But if all your spices were salt and pepper, that's what you use. And then it's. And then it's. I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you,

Good morning. Yeah Yeah, you got his own speaker No, I'm in a car. Oh, okay. Well, no, you handle you good. All right. What we say Okay, so let's just bring it What do you think it's the better brain?

In terms of health or just health? Health or good bread. Like, no artificial additives coming out of it. Just flour and water and yeast, stuff like that. Like, what bread do you think comes like that? You know, if you want to...

Yeah, if you buy your, if you buy bread fresh, the problem with fresh bread is it has a very short shelf life as opposed to you buying the loaf of bread, right? Like if I'm right, which one? Yeah, probably healthier, but there's also convenience. And so then people are, you know, you, you, you get bread that's going to last a little bit. You don't want to have to throw the bread out in two days.

Where if I buy a loaf of bread, you know, that you put it in a refrigerator, wouldn't it last longer? Yeah, it could but it shouldn't be and even then they tell you about leftovers. How long should you leave leftovers in a refrigerator? About two days though. See, you say two days and and and so it really depends, you know, yeah, but I you know if we could fresh fruit fresh vegetables

I'm sorry Well, I mean I think when you got it, but if you go there's certain people and again, this is this is a price piece

You know, we can go to Sendix and they always have fresh vegetables. Oh my God, we're talking horrible vegetables at Sendix. Oh, really? Oh my God. It was the right guy. They put a piece on their vegetables. Oh, okay. So I'm just trying to make people wear like, like all the different brands. They're all about one corporation. Now, if you think you buy in host goods or not hosting.

What is it? Yeah, Mr. Garen, we don't get it. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, my God, they're getting strong. Oh, well, I was just saying, like, all of the breathing, even the organic breathing, it's these, it's these stuff in it that, you know, hurt your body. I didn't even know why. You don't suppose that you could work.

We're supposed to get rid of it. You don't talk to the stories. Because when you store it, it creates this bad period that's supposed to be real hard. But they're not knowing that. And like minute rice, it's not a good rice. Half of it is plastic. Yeah. It's what? It's plastic and new rice. Yeah. So that is true because if you

if you cook the rice and let it sit and dry out and let it sit in that pot for days, you'll see how it turns the outer ring of it is like plastic. That is true. That's not. That's the residue from plastic. That's plastic. That's plastic. Doc, I'm telling you, get you some, get you some Jasmine words.

You know it takes you gotta really you gotta cook that like one couple right? It takes two cups of water to cook. It's so soft, it's so soft. It's good, soft. As you put it in the refrigerator and it get cold and hard, you can break it up. The middle right, you can break it.

Some of these places that you get the rights from these Chinese restaurants. I feel so why I just feel so slow. And matter of fact, if you don't believe him, though, you can try this experiment yourself. Go get the minute rice, put it in a pot. Let it sit for a day or two. Just let it sit, dry out, and then try to dump that rice out.

to clean the pot you go see exactly what he saw because i know exactly what you're talking about because i've seen it for myself i've seen it okay um says minute rice is real food actual rice but it can contain microscopic pieces of plastic i'm telling you okay so the microscopic pieces of

That would be 120 pieces of it. Instant rice. The processing studies show that process and instant foods can pick up tiny plastic particles known as microplastics during manufacturing, factory processing, and packaging. Higher levels. Research indicates that instant or pre-cooked rice can contain higher levels of microplastic contamination compared to raw traditional rice.

reduction. The rice will be raw. Wash the rice before cooking it can help rinse away a significant portion of surface micro scopic or micro press pack micro plastic particles. But do they say you this? It sticks to the rice. No but check this out though. Check this out though.

Now the when you go buy the rice is there a sign on it saying that they contain there's no sign There's no nothing so you put in plastic in your body. Well, let me can I give you okay? I got that. Let me give you another example If you're cooking macaroni and cheese, right? Okay, and you go in and you buy the shredded cheese Okay, they put wax on that shredded cheese for shipping That's why when you look at recipes they say rated

because if you go and buy a block of cheese, it doesn't have that same right. So anytime you go in and you have so minute rice is pre-cooked as opposed to you getting a bag of rice and doing the slow cook, right? So if you're seeing that now, again, it's not as plastic. It's just that it contains these micro plastics part of shipping. But in that process when you cook and do it form,

because the that plastic is from the rice grain that it can actually come together and form. You know, after you cook it and you dry it and it's and it's hard. Once you clean that pot out and you dump that rice into the garbage, you can see. You can see it all in the ground up. Okay. Okay. One more thing. What kind of rice do you eat? I eat jasmine rice now.

The white rice Okay, this is the plastic like film or residue you often see cooked and cooked rice including minute rice is almost always excess natural starch rather than actual plastic So it's the snow No, no now I can take I can take the jazz the rice and make the egg rolls with that starch Get you some

I think that any time that you get something that's pre-processed, there is, because you have to ship it. And then the question becomes, how come it can keep a shelf life? And I don't know what the shelf life is for natural rights. Now, again, we want quick rice, so we don't want to

go in and do what you know. I'm going to cook rice with my little cook that my grandmother cooked it. Right. It doesn't take that long, man. It's so beautiful how that rice will work. I mean, it takes about the same amount of time that you just use in the water. You clean it, you put your sauce, a little butter in it, and a little pear at the top.

And he put your rice in there, and just let it sit. And voila, you got some pretty, yeah. I love rice, I love rice, I love it. Catfish, be careful with the catfish. You buy catfish off the square, they're coming in real fast. If you don't finger, then you throw it out. And it look like jelly on the top. Take it back. That ain't, that ain't catfish.

And if you want some catfish, all you have to do is call if you got fish, I'll catch you some of that old real catfish back. I can see it's gonna come up, y'all better get y'all orders in here. The problem though with fresh caught catfish is they're bottom feeders, so. No, not really. You can go down to Mississippi and I can buy it from where they raise it at on top. And it's weird because catfish don't eat. Yeah, it's like a fur. Stay far. Yes, stay far, stay far.

But it's weird to see catfish coming up to the top of a water and eating. But they got to be eating the insects. They're eating the insects. No, they feed them pellets. OK, that too. But if you see fish coming up a lot of times, they're eating the insects. No, these farms, they die. Farms, what I'm saying. But you can see fish. And I'm not a fisherman. Oh, no.

Oh, yeah, I'm a fisherman though. Um, yeah. I saw some, uh, characters eat pigeons. Okay. All right, man.

a whole pigeon. They could make a boom. They kept fishes out here, bro. Jaws. Right. Baby Jaws. Baby Jaws. Here I'm playing here. I don't need about the size of baby's man. Did you hear that? Okay. Right. Wow. I'm bothering you. Alright. Two feet tall. Go down to Mississippi. Go to Arkansas. You know where the corn, where them trains run and get that corn? Mm-hmm. Oh, there's some monsters in there.

Let me get the next call All right, let's do this call. I see you. I want you to hang on to after the break

You listen to Community Voice. I tell folks Sunday truth, the search for truth can take you into some areas that you may or may not be prepared for. You listen to Community Voice, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. East Paris. All right, welcome back. Caller, we thank you for your patience. Welcome to the program. First of all, I want to say good-bye to you and your staff and everything.

I grew up in Milwaukee and sometimes I get a headache when I drive home. I don't know how long I'm going to be living in the inner city. I'm going to try to say this in a very polite way. Midges is going to be the downfall of the north side. And I personally feel we have adopt this mindset because things are done at a sub level. We should be okay with it or we keep using

this excuse for poverty is why we can't do no better, but we all have free will. We can wash our hands after we do number two, but we don't know how to pick up as we walk to the garbage can. We know how to drive when we get around white folks, but then when we get around our own and see this, it's everybody and cause people to stay in a house. And I just feel like where we're going right now,

but North Side is going to continue to go down and it's going to continue to rock. Now, we do have people moving in and that's perfectly fine because they don't come out during the daytime anyway because they're not trying to communicate with no blackies. But I'm trying to understand why is it when it comes to us that the delivery should be okay when you can do your best but you're not choosing to do your best.

So you have a lot of black people are sick and tired of being sick and tired. They feel they don't have no voice coming from nobody. But then when 75% of the white people move in, not everybody is on these issues like no one's on good cocaine. And people are sick of it. You have people who have worked hard to pay their house off. They didn't work 30, 40 years.

The neighborhood is going to garbage, but people want to complain about people moving in. But when it comes to the niggas, oh, well, they don't know no better. Oh, it's poverty. Oh, my mama had seven kids and got a victim. Oh, I grew up in the house and my mama and daddy was a jockey because they were doing no dolls with a bed. Let me ask you a question. How much of that is the individual and how much of that is systemic?

But we still got free will though. I'm all of that said people had free will but the system is still the system. So how do you change a system? That is detrimental to certain people certainly based on their economics that how do you change that? Well, you have to become the system. You don't have you can't let a system dictate your success. You know what I mean?

You have to become the system. Just because you are against me does not mean I supposed to fall to my hands and left my hands and feet and feet. I have no pride in myself and I'm going to be a junkie and don't try to do my best because I'm giving the system the firewall.

I'm using it as an example. If they want to do it to be adjusted, hey, I buy your dope if you're going to leave. You got alcoholics who get up and they function every day. Exactly what those alcoholics have.

a standard. See, stable junkies and stable alcoholics handle their business. They're not out here acting like niggas. There's a difference. That's why they always say, we're the good junkies act, because they go to work and go home. They seem like they have something to act for. But, you know, we can identify the problem, but then what becomes the solution? The solution is we're going to have to force them out of the neighborhood.

We have this thing. So you force them out, but you still have black people. If you force them out of this neighborhood, you force them into another neighborhood, they're still never the same, but they're still living the same way they live when you, you know, when you force them out. So what? Do you don't care where they go? I have to care where they go. If you're talking about black people, it's the least among us men. We're talking about leaders. No, no, I'm not going to let you. We're talking about black folks.

No, I'm not talking about po folks, right? And so when people, you got po folks who does right, Mr. Perry, you got po folks that keep their house clean. They raise a kid. But here comes the law. Here come the law of opposites. If you have somebody doing what they're supposed to do, you also going to have somebody not doing what they're supposed to do.

That's just the law of opposites. I wish we lived in an ideal world where everybody did everything they were supposed to do and do it right, but that ain't the world we live in. I understand it, but what I'm saying is, Mr. Parris, as long as you have the standard of the poor both, you're not getting a Panera bread. You're not getting none of those good restaurants because you don't have people who can afford Panera bread.

That's that's the difference. See this is economics. That's what drives it and we have the subtext of race We have the subtext of all these other things, but it's all about the dollar man Okay, I mean

What is that 22 and sure. Okay. Well, I'm just saying, man, I kind of wish everybody was like you and me. No, I understand what Mr. Pierce, what I'm saying is in order for the north side to prosper, they're gonna have to be fleshed out or what's gonna happen is.

you're going to continue to get the genification of the white people that's moving in. And then when you get more white people, then your black politicians are going to get in front of that camera. So you will have to understand the only thing that black people are good for when it comes to Shepherd Express, section eight, the mental health badge and food hatcheries. Because that's the only thing that's being pushed on. I'm telling you, man, either you want to see this problem solved or you want to complain about it.

I want to see the problem go on to the matter. If they need to move, they need to cut back on the Section 8. They need to cut back on the women's assistance. They already doing that. Well, they need to push them out. Because if they don't, the neighborhood going to go down and the white people going to move in. And then when the white people start moving in, don't sit here and get all upset because.

We could have took care of this a long time ago. And you know what, Mr. Pierce? I know some of you black politicians stayed near giving the metal finger to the camera. But I'm going to tell you this, you couldn't move like your food moves if the last thing was Krawalowski, and it was an organic eater. Because I'm going to tell you something, you would be on it like your nose on good dope. And just because we black doesn't mean we got to settle with midges. That's not how we was raised. All right. Appreciate you, ma'am.

Yikes. Carla, welcome to the program. Good morning. Good morning. Oh, boy. Here we go. No, no, no, no. See what I call is here you go. Hold on. Listen, brother, because I'm calling. We're not here to go. Hold on. It started with plastic rice.

Then we had Al. So, you know You guys were talking about fishing and I wanted I couldn't call it that mom Okay, because I wanted to say something about the fishing and I understand my man was telling you opera story And y'all could love y'all cutting short a little bit, but I believe my man is a real fisherman Yes, but the biggest fish that I caught catch fish

was up in a brown, uh, Princeton. I called a flathead. A flathead is a different kind of catfish. You don't eat off the bite. You only lie, move, and bait. You got a fish for him with a chur, and you throw it out there, and you get a hit. You know, and sometimes it might take all day or all night, but when you hit one, you know, he's a yellow cat, for him, flat. He only fooled with lie, move, and bait. Then the biggest blue cat I ever caught,

was up there in Depeer, which is off the Fox River as well, coming out of Green Bay. In Depeer, I caught a big blue, and I got pitches for 9 jacks, you know, so, and this ain't no AI, because guess what? A couple of them pitches I got, we had Polaroid, not Polaroid, but the kind you had to take in and get them and develop. The old 9 milliliter was yet, what was it? The 35 milliliter, you had to take in and get them developed at Walgreens, you know, so I got pitches before the biggest.

Wall, I mean, not the biggest walleye, but the biggest more than I ever caught. You ain't gonna believe this. Lake Michigan, man, was like, probably 46 inches. The joint was long, taller than me. I mean, taller, you know, up around my chest. And she was a female. I got her right now, I mean, coming in behind the post office down there. Lake Michigan, I think that's the, what river is that?

But it comes off of Lake Michigan, and then it runs up. It runs up. It's writing back in a post office downtown. But anyway, man, listen, the brother called the enlightened. Now, he said everything that we would call for, that we would say white supremacists would say, and we would get mad at white supremacists for saying all those mean things, OK? But guess what? He gets to come in and blab about the better community. We understand we got deals in our community. Every community got deals. And by the way, big brother,

They already hear, and they already hear in our community. And guess what? Else, they're here in our community, and they bought some unwelcoming guests with them. All you gotta do is look, and the Alps is around here buying everything they can buy. You see the Barado brothers, they ain't the only one, JJ Fish. Matter of fact, a guy that, the JJ Fish man buying up all the real estate. He buying the little real estate.

A lot of times you see these cards coming to your house, you think they got white faces on them when you call the realtor broker. Guess what? These people are brokerages for those people. The white man again, you got the card, they come to your mailbox. Guess what? It's an air behind that. They trying to buy a whole deal. And they not paying that. And we have financed, we have given them, we have financed their watches through our local stores.

Our local gas stations, the government with that SNAP card benefit, that SNAP card is real money whether you people know it or not, when you swipe it $5, $12, $18. And it becomes instant cash to the bank without taxes because it's a government program. They don't pay taxes on the SNAP. We have funded their war chest against us. Now so many of us are fighting for our replacement to keep these people in the community, keep them in the country.

Do you understand what Mandani is? He's a second generation person here and a first generation. I'm sorry. And guess what? There's a whole bunch of look at Patterson, New Jersey, the mayor out there in Patterson, New Jersey. He said, this is the new record. Does that scare you? But that don't raise a hand on the back of your neck. You know, I want you to go down and keep on playing these political games.

And to everything you've got is gone. And all that other stuff about calling the Black Negroes, we can do that when we in circles. But I'm not feeling good on this. And when I had a little show, you couldn't call in talking about no Black man, no Black stuff. I'll cut you off right quick. And guess what? You probably couldn't cut me off right quick. But I had fun doing. I was a Joe Madison on N.O.V. I loved it. Listen, man, you guys take it easy, man. Have a nice week. Two, six. Carla, welcome to the program.

Good morning, gentlemen. How you guys doing? Morning. How are you? You know, we need some we need some sweet sweet sometimes some folks act like they don't get none. But anyway, you know, I'm good. I'm good for all the rice. It's wonderful doubt. You know, I let me a little bit of rice. Let's go back there for a second. A little bit of rice. It do it. It does the body good. I do my chicken little act actually. And it's a wonderful that old recipe my mama taught me.

But then also, even with our community, us as a people have to learn how to enjoy our community. We do have some people around here that is down-trotting and hasn't seen a better part of life. There's some generation that've been through things, but you know what? If each one of us who are here have made such a thing, have learned how to teach another one. Sometimes we could grab them by the hand and say, hey, a kind gesture.

goes a long way. We can't just keep kicking down our people. We have to show them how they can get better and do better. So I pray that some of our listeners and our callers learn how to, you know, we ain't gotta pity them. People don't want to pity them. They don't want to hand out. They want to see a better way of living. And they need to see it through their people.

through their people. I mean, we've got great restaurants in this area that's coming up. We've got some that's already started. And it is trying to make it a food desert. Only food store, we've got to run and save a lot. You can say gone, everything in the city gone, but you know what? We do have a way out and it starts with us building our community. God bless you.

All right. Is it that they or did we run them out? Well, we run them out. I'm gonna say it like this here. In a sense, and you know, just like I look at it, I seen a guy in Walgreens one day and he, it was Valentine's Day and he was packing his pole with things. You know, at first I didn't pick up a card.

I say, man, and he put it in the pocket. I said, man, no, no, no, you ain't got to do that, man. I bought it for you. Don't don't do that. You want to guess about it better. Let me pay for that. And and and he grabbed some more stuff. I'm in this and you go, I said, man, you watch your rags. I said, God, come here. I've just been for real. But I mean, but when you're in business and the magnitude of theft is so high, be it internal and or, you know, the customer base, how do you stay there?

It's difficult because insurance ain't going to pay for it all. And I know you're a businessman. I know you, you know, so you got to understand that part of it too. Pick and save on 35th Street. In my eyes, it was probably a gold mine, you would think. Yes. But just imagine the amount of theft and turnover and the fact that these employees can, you really can't accost nobody. You can't put your hands on them. You're really not supposed to get involved in that in that way. So.

What do you think? But is there another question to why is the theft higher there? Let's go back home. No, no. Why is the theft higher there than it might be in some other neighborhood? Well, and the theft is really not because white folks still on a large base. There comes still a whole pallet of everything to hold for. I'm asking you, when you look at a pick and save that's on 35th and North,

35th and what was that 35th and monarchy? What is the difference between that and you know what's really because I'm telling y'all sometimes we I'm not saying it's a blinder but you know we look at through the prison of race they closed two pick and saves on the south side. Why did they close those pick and saves?

The same thing because women hold on where were that they were in areas where they were poor people and and one of those indications of where and there's usually high theft in areas where there's poverty You know, so when people and people said that ain't an excuse it ain't an excuse is a causal factor, right? You know, so I mean, I think that when we look at that it's like when you go into most of these drug stores now that you know

especially those in the city. Everything is locked up because after people take care of their basic needs, they can't get sundries. They can't get lotion. They can't get soap. They can't get deodorant. They just had enough to pay their rent. You know, and so then that's where you see the theft. So when, and I know that's hard because people, we come from this moral perspective, the house should not steal, but we need to understand that a lot of times, and then when, and I say then look and see where Walmart's are closing.

Like, let's say they're not in urban areas. They're closing in rural areas. Why would they close in that rural area if they close? Because of theft. And it ain't black folks. When you close the one on 34th Street, then that means if I'm a booster, if I like to steal and I know I can make me some money, I'm going to the one on South 27th Street. I'm going over there.

You know, even then, if you're a booster and you are still in food, you're selling food, you're using that for survival. Right. But let's go back a little bit. Let's go back a little bit. Let's go back home a little bit. You know, we got children that are here, and why would their children be at the gas station? They'd beg for dollars or change, and that's the story. And you know, a lot of us, we got to look back at home. Our parents, some of these young parents,

teaching them a lot of nothing and somebody needs to get their hands and teach them. Hey man, you got to do better than your parenting because your babies ain't got no business out here doing this. It hurts me. But then that gets, that gets into another discussion because we have people out there who, you know, in some instances cannot afford to have children, but they're still having children. True that.

You know, I remember just something Dr. Walter Ferrell said, you know, like you would have people and it wasn't a judgment. It's just what happens if we're not telling people or we have a more involved conversation about family planning. Now look, the birth rate is dropping. The teenage birth rate in the black community is dropping, but you still have people who are born into poverty for whatever reasons, right? They're born into poverty.

And so when he's out there begging, that means that there's deprivation in the crib. But that kid, he didn't have a choice in whether or not he was going to be born into this world or born into the family that he was born into. You and I had no choice to that. We were fortunate. But then there are other people who weren't as fortunate as you and I. Right?

All right. Appreciate you, man. I need to take a break. You're listening to Community Voice. We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back.

All right, welcome back, and we're doing the studio. I'm Mr. Gerald Jacobson. Milwaukee Office of African-American Affairs, no clue. Milwaukee Office of African-American Affairs, Milwaukee Fatherhood Covish. Not to be mistaken with the Milwaukee Fatherhood Collaborate. We do have those days, too. You do, man. You know, quite well. You were, you identified Veltas in the country, of course, that was done by one of your fellow alums.

That is correct. He's a proud graduate of Howard University. That's right. You know. What I didn't know was I was supposed to wear a cap this morning. You know what? It's been beautiful.

As far as it goes with Fatherhood, there's been a lot of things happening, very exciting. I did want to talk about it this morning, especially because we were just listening to your previous conversations. And the reality is the world is changing, countries changing, cities changing, and we're trying to be in place so that we can meet the needs of what people are asking for.

Traditionally, in early October, we would have the Milwaukee Fatherhood Summit. And it had around, what, 15 years? Easily. Yeah, 15 years. But you all are changing your approach. So talk a little bit about the change that you are all doing there with the Milwaukee Fatherhood Coalition. Sure.

just so happens for the people who are out there as participants, as vendors, as supporters and sponsors. Everybody, we give a gigantic thank you for your support and your involvement over the years. And certainly we're looking forward to whatever you can to lift us up in the new direction that we're going in. New direction with our Milwaukee Fatherhood Coalition is going to be more structured around getting

our agencies together, getting us on the same page, getting us more streamlined so that, basically, fathers recognize that there is one pathway to get some of the services that they can receive. We do recognize that there's a great amount of work being done through Forge, with Milwaukee County, other fatherhood organizations and the groups that do the classes. We've got fathers making progress. We have a parenting network. We have multiple groups that exist.

But that doesn't necessarily mean that when a father goes to one of those agencies or a family goes to one of those agencies, they're going to know the comprehensive scope of what's being offered out there. We want a Milwaukee Fatherhood Coalition to be the place, basically like a landing page for that. So we want to get more coordination and we want it to be more consistent and we absolutely respect the look of a one-stop shop where that happened with Milwaukee Fatherhood summits every year.

We'd like to see it be more consistent throughout the year. And so that's the direction that we want to take it in. And so this week on Friday at the Harley-Davidson Museum, we're going to have our Milwaukee Fatherhood luncheon where Mayor Cavillard Johnson is going to make the formal announcement of the updated Milwaukee Fatherhood coalition is going to look like and also introduce the concept of the more frequent

Many summits, many fatherhood summits that are going to be taking place around the city. And one of the benefits of it taking place in different parts of the city is that they can be more neighborhood focused. They can be more theme focused around what may be the particular circumstances of those families or the economy that is a priority area. So we're looking forward to that going forward in 2026, 2027. You know, we, in those many, many planning meetings,

We would have around the summit, you know, we'd have these conversations every year and I don't know why the word one year I think it's empowering and One Milwaukee does very well when it comes to father-servant agencies organizations Even within the city of Milwaukee you have the dads program Again, you mentioned Forge, which is now known as the Milwaukee fatherhood collaborative

parenting network, and other groups out there who worked with fathers. I know a few years ago when we announced that we had gotten the grant, then it could have been pathways, I don't know, so many generations of that grant. I remember they had did a news report, but then you went in and you saw the comments. And the comments were so...

disparaging, and it was really going after black farmers. How do we, one, that we have men out there who are serving in that role? And so then that's where that word empowerment comes from. So this different approach, does that lead us to empowerment? I don't think I can modify it with better, but a level of empowerment that we have,

when it comes to fathers? We believe so. And part of the reason is because if you get a message to people, this is the public health strategy, get a message to people multiple times, then they'll be able to learn it. Eventually the behavior is modeled. Eventually they can own it and ultimately they can start replicating it. That's the type of thing that we like to see in the fatherhood space. We'll admit many of the comments were disparaging.

The disparaging comments don't necessarily reflect all the realities that are taking place, especially in African-American communities. I mean, we've seen the Center for Disease Control report about their level of engagement, especially being at a higher level, even when the fathers are not a part of that home environment with the mother. And those types of things not only don't get spoken about enough, but I still believe that if the data is not accurately expressed,

then people are going to go with basically myths and legends. But it's a conversation you said earlier about modeling behavior, where many of us grew up in a situation where we necessarily didn't have a dad in the home. And so, you know, you talk a lot, I know you don't talk about your dad, right?

we had conversations and so you had something that you could see for someone like me who that wasn't the case then you look you have to you have to look around and parenting is trial and error regardless of even the best situation even the best books don't it's trial and error so so how do we beyond how does these conversations these many summits of luncheon

How does it just keep us moving towards this target of, you know, men being better fathers? It starts off with not just the message that it can be done, but it also has to be shown these are the ways that it's going to take place. I think that one of the elements that we have that doesn't get utilized enough has been many of the parenting classes. We know that people do not come with an instruction book to be a parent.

And often there are best practices that do exist the way that we communicate with children. Some of the practices that might be done in a household that might have worked in, I don't know, 1970, they don't work in 2046. And so those are the types of demonstrations and activities, role modeling, even role playing that are going to have to be done.

to get fathers in a mindset where I can be someone who is a better communicator, or a better listener, or be able to notice certain things that are part of the child development and child growing experience that we didn't necessarily think were as important, but if they're part of what's being a responsible parent and a father is not a secondary parent, a father is a parent.

You're listening to Community Voice, we're joined in the studio by Mr. Daryl Davison, Milwaukee City of Milwaukee Office of African-American Affairs and the Milwaukee Fatherhood Coalition. And talking about the Milwaukee Fatherhood luncheon, that's going to be held this Friday. You can take a quick break, be right back.

Hi, welcome back and we're joined in studio by Mr. Doe Davidson Milwaukee office city of Milwaukee office of African-American affairs The Milwaukee fatherhood coalition and we're talking about the Milwaukee fatherhood luncheon a little bit different than what we've normally done in the past truly But still it's you know, and sometimes change is important Well, that's what it's all about. I mean the theme is inspiring growth and change

So, September 18th this year. Be there before 11 a.m. if you can, everybody. We want to get that program started at 11 a.m. It's still able to get yourself in there. Just go to the Milwaukee Fatherhood Coalition website. The City of Milwaukee City of Milwaukee Office of African-American Affairs website. So, type in City of Milwaukee Office of African-American Affairs. To get to that page, go to the QR code.

and go ahead and register. There's no charge. There's free parking. Enjoy the community that has celebrated, celebrated fathers and the work that is being done with fathers. I think what's also interesting about this year and going in a new direction is I'm speaking on the phone to so many people who are learning not only about us, but learning that we've been working concurrently.

And they've been saying things such as, oh, wow, I could have sent people over to you to talk about housing. So all these different subject matters where you see at the Milwaukee Fatherhood Summit, we have it available year round. Let's coordinate it. Like I said, let's get a streamlined so we can have fathers get connected in multiple ways just by making that one phone call. And again, God, I wish you could have sent it.

We can put up the QR code. If you do, you can send me a copy of the flyer and I'll pass it on and we can put it up. We'll make that happen. Who's your keynote speaker this year? Our keynote speaker is the dynamic Charmaine Harris. I don't know if anybody knows him as an author.

He has a really interesting history, not only as a father, but as a son, as well as the life changes that he experienced with incarceration and reentry, getting his education and graduating, establishing a group of opportunity for his family members. It's really inspiring. And obviously, I'm not going to tell this story on the radio. You really should come and see him at the event.

I am very impressed with the work that he's doing. We've worked together at some of the Milwaukee County outreach events. I met Mr. Harris years ago at the Milwaukee Fatherhood Summit and I know that he is very approachable for people who want to talk to him more about situations that look like his. So he looked like he was going in one direction in his life. Now he's doing something completely different and that seems to be rather common nowadays.

What do you mean that does come? Most of the time, I'm running into people who'll say, I didn't grow up thinking I was going to do what I'm doing. It's the people who are extremely successful, moderately successful, well-known, not so well-known. I went to college. I studied this. I studied this in high school. I have this particular trade. And it seems 180 degrees are worlds away from what they thought they were going to be doing. But it said most people work outside the nature.

Isn't that the interesting part? Well, you gotta eat. You gotta eat. If you're a political science major, if you're not doing something, you gotta do something else. You know, where a lot of people, they've argued that maybe unless you're doing something that's more vocational, like an engineer, mathematician, some type of biologist and things like that, they said, you know, get a liberal arts degree. That's what they used to say at least. I am familiar with that.

philosophy. But what else say about now, if people don't really have their, their direction really mapped out, still call the Milwaukee Final Head Coalition. Okay, we're at 4014-2860-222. You can call us about the luncheon. You can call us about, you know, careers. We do have individuals at our building with some 48th and final act. We have individuals in our building who help with the job search and help with

business plans. Basically, there's multiple connections, way too many to talk about here. But recently, we've been talking to individuals who need information about rent assistance and housing and legal services to protect them from eviction. So we do make those referrals. So not all inside our building, but we do have the numbers to reach out and get people there. You give us a call once again, 414-286.

We can at least get you someone on the phone or in the email who can get you registered. Probably get some help. You'll get further along talking to us and if you didn't talk to us. I also want to emphasize that September 18th, which is Friday, is a big deal. Wonky Fatherhood Luncheon is huge. But if you are a family-serving agency, we want you to get in touch with us because we want to promote

the services and the goals that you're doing with families. So principally with fathers, of course, but also with other members of the family. And we want to establish that at, we have a meeting at Story School on whether people knew it or not, September 17th, which is Thursday, the day before the luncheon. We are coordinating around different parts of the city, the national dads take your school, children to school day.

It's not much to do. It's just fathers make sure you take your children to school or daycare on that morning. We are going to have an event with father serving organizations at Story School, which is a Milwaukee public school near 36 and Kilburn. We want to make sure that people know who the father serving organizations will be that starts at 8 30 in the morning goes from 8 30 to 9 30. I will be there.

as well as representatives from other father servicing organizations. And if you want to join us and your student does not go to Story School, just make a reservation. 414-934-4800. That's 414-934-4800. Get your place there. It'll be in the auditorium. We do have space and we will have refreshments for people and you'll get education around what services are available for fathers.

And then follow, once again, show up the next day, Friday, on the 18th with us at the Milwaukee Fatherhood Luncheon at the Harley Davidson Museum. Be there before 11 o'clock in the morning, please. And pre-registration is required. It's really simple. You go to Milwaukee.gov slash fatherhood. That's Milwaukee.gov slash fatherhood. And the registration form comes up. Great opportunity. And also, and there are many father-serving organizations out there, you certainly

want to be a part of this luncheon. Mr. Gerald Davidson. Mr. Parrish. Appreciate you, man. And I'll see you on Friday. Looking forward to it, sir. Looking forward to all the good things that are happening in the city also. Thank you. You're listening to Community Voice. We're going to take a quick break, and we'll be right back.

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voice getting phone lines open y'all four one four four four four five two five zero four one four four four four five two five zero let's recap what we talked about we talked about plastic rice whopper stories about the size of fish people caught catfish angers

at the conditions that we see in the community. And then the Milwaukee Fatherhood Luncheon. This is different. I'm looking forward to it. I've been doing this now, oh man, 15 years. Yeah, about 14 years, 15 years. I originally got involved when Terrence Ray was the director of the Milwaukee Fatherhood Initiative.

And the way it really worked was my boss didn't want to go to the meeting. So she sent me, you know, I had time. And that's how I really got involved. And, you know, and my work around this is, you know, when Dural said that, you know, you find yourself in situations, I'm not a biological dad. And certainly going to work for child support because I wasn't a biological dad. That means I wasn't paying child support.

but work to child support and really this work around fathers. Now I would say that prior to that, I didn't realize it was like 25 years. Did you find yourself, I mean, were you sensitive enough towards what fathers were going through based on the fact that you weren't a father? Could you really appreciate how they felt? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, and if it was,

When they say, you ain't a father. I used to be a kid. You know, so, you know, you can you can say that, you know, like you ain't doing it. But then I would say, yeah, you know, and then for me, when you ask about the sensitivity, I understand that being really sensitive. But I think that, you know, we focus on the dads.

So the dads can be a better presence in the lives of their kids. It's really about the kids, right? So who was the genius that started locking people up? Because you can't pay if you locked up. So that's a complicated question. Um, he had to be nothing short of a genius. No, well, part of, um, now we say locked up. There's two types of locked up for this, right?

And so, yeah, you had guys who would go to county, you know, warrants, you know, payment. It was really under Bill Clinton where they strengthened the child support laws. They put the deadbeat dad law on the books and then states started adding criminal felony laws as it relates to child support. I absolutely agree with you. It makes

No, this is just keep speaking. It makes no sense to send someone to prison. And then, you know, because the bottom line is trying to collect child support. Man, I know somebody, man, that did 10 years for child support, right? And it's crazy to me because if you're locking him up because he's behind on child support, you lock him up for 10 years.

What do you think is gonna happen when he get out? He's gonna be behind even further so and I think you know it Now When you look at Milwaukee County statistically, we have a very low prosecution rate when it comes to as it relates to the size of the case levels It's about 113,000 cases. So we have a very low. I mean, it's usually about 60 a year

But we don't lock people up for being poor, you know that that's unconstitutional No, no what I'm saying is that we as a you can't prosecute a person for being poor Well, you ain't gonna say that but in reality you are locking this man up because you or or woman because I you know I'm gonna be fair but it's a lot of men that's in the system that if you don't have even if you work in

at McDonald's. And if your child support order is three, four hundred a month, if you can't meet that, you get locked up. But if you're working at McDonald's and you have that high child support order, you should go and get that order modified. No, but listen, now I'm real cautious with this line because I walked this line. So I'm real cautious with how I speak about this because from experience, the judge, and it's not that

You know, I'm going to say this. A lot of people get caught up in the web. That's not meant for them. Child support. And I say this all the time. Child support is supposed to be for absent fathers. Fathers that's not in their kids' life. Absent parent. Okay, parents. Okay, yeah. Okay. Sorry. Child support is supposed to be for absent parents. Not broken relationships. So we do have...

These people that's getting caught up in the webs because of the broken relationship portion of it. And they know that the loophole is tied into, well, I just put you on child support. And to a black man that's coming up in the community, that's like pushing the nuclear bomb. Because you are forever. Hold on. And it might be funny to you. No, you said nuclear bomb, though. Yeah.

Because it will destroy your life forever. There's people right now. That's 40 50 60 years old That's in debt that can't get the stuff because of a person was broken They was hurt because the relationship didn't matter you put these people in the business knowing that this person came to forward Now it's piling up on what do you do? Well, I think You know I you know and I teach child

I think that there's something called a disparate law, right? What that means is that it has disparate impact, is that it was a law that had good intentions, but sometimes could have negative consequences. The intention was to make sure

that the absent parent provided support for the child. We also have running concurrent to this, which is always and trying to understand the mentality. What is running concurrent with this is that people feel like, OK, why do you got to tell me to take care of my kid?

And why are you taking money out of my check for me to take care of my kid? The evidence shows that there is a significant number of people who do not provide financial support on a regular basis to their children. The government then says, and here's the other little thing that always makes it, this is a systemic part of it. The vast majority of people

80% or more who are on child support is because of public assistance. That's a drive. So then that could disproportionately hurt the 24, no, no, poor and black, poor black men, you know, because, and then you factor in other things like incarceration, not for child support, just incarceration in general. All these things happen. But there,

And this is anecdotal. This is not empirical, y'all. This is anecdotal. This is just me doing this for 15 years. I also hear from some guys. I'm trying to figure out if I just ask a very general question, should you provide financial support for your child? I get 100% yes. I get 100% yes. There's nobody pushing back.

But then you factor in things like you identified the broken relationship between the parents. And what does that look like? The fact that you might have what we call serial dads. That means that, you know, they have children with multiple women, right? That's an issue. And then the attitude because, again, when I asked the question,

Should parents take care of their children financially everyone says yes, and I'm being very purposeful when I say parents Yes Okay Now here's the flip side of this for 25 years. I did public assistance, right? So I saw how Custodial parents were struggling Trying to make ends meet now other people are gone when she made a choice I don't know that and I say she because overwhelmingly the overwhelming number of

of people coming in to apply for public assistance were women. That's overwhelming. So now you've got that. But then you also got your feelings, how the relationship ended, even some circumstances on how the child was created. And so then people in their minds, and I don't understand it, and maybe I have the same reaction, in their mind is asking,

I don't know if people feel like they lose control, but I think the reason why there might be a certain loss of control is the involvement of the government in providing support for that child. Right. Now, everything that you said I do agree with, but my issue is this. You said that the majority of the people that was coming in for assistance was women, which is true.

However, which then drove a referral right to child support, but I know men that have went in and tried and they have been rejected rejected for for Assistant for the child probably and again 25 years. I did it One of the things that government does is that for property programs They have very stringent verification requirements

If you cannot verify it, then they're not going to grant. Yeah, but you know what in reality? What it is is just like how the program was in the 70s to when the woman had to make sure that the man won in the house when the people came by to look at the house so they can get the assistant. It's easier for women to get the assistant than it is for men because women have the children. It's the custodian parent.

You know, I found this whole thing about marriage, you know, not always so what do you mean? Yeah, I'm saying but I'm saying and I used I thought I was purposeful when I said overwhelming Number of people who come in and apply for public assistance or women Not that they're not men coming in applying to men who are not receiving assistance But what I'm saying is or even custody of the child is what I was referring to right? That's a different issue. That's outside of child support see but but people

I was able to collect child support from my son's mother. Right, but custody and placement are different than child support. I had them. But it impacts child support. Right. I ended up with custody. So then, you had a custodial parent, then you... So everything that men complained that they go through, she went through. Took her back in, reviewed the order the whole night.

Yeah, that's the only point I was trying to make. It's not always that the right hand. And I'm not saying that it's all, and I thought I was purposeful when I said the overwhelming majority though. Yeah. And the reason why it's overwhelmingly, what I'm trying to say is that men will go in and it's not available to us like it is to the women, like with the housing and all the other stuff that they get.

We can't get. But if you have the child. Bruh, I know some people that have it and the court told them, figure it out. You a man, figure it out. Why would the court tell this guy that? And he's trying to get assistance. I'm confused. Yeah, he went to court. He went to court, proved that he got primary placement, proved that he's taking care of the child. The court told him to figure it out.

Well, I'm gonna tell you, there's a waiting list for housing. And you heard girl, you heard girl. Yeah, but it's women, isn't it? Because usually, right, because there are men who go through the program who have children. And depending on where they are on that wait list, they will get it. It's not based on that. It's based on who has the child.

You know, cause I, when I first started this, I used to hear Wisconsin is a woman's state. It is. And I'm going, yeah, well, because women are usually the primary caretakers of children. Okay, hold on. I'm going to say this. The judge, and I'm putting myself in this. The judge looked at the significant other that was down and caught with me, looked at her and said, what do you want me to do with you? This woman looked at me and smiled.

looked at the judge and said, I just wanted to teach him a lesson. Now, this was on. What? You wanted to teach me what lesson? Does we not together? No, it's a women's state. Now, if you ain't never had crappies or blue girls, I'm trying to change the subject. You know, over there.

For the people that lived it, for the people that has been through it and experienced, when you share and tell your story, it's almost like it's, well, you know, nah, it ain't the well you know. This is what's happening. I used to always get in trouble for this, Debo. I said, you know, children are a choice, right? I used to get, and people pushed back on me, oh, children are a choice. That is true. And we have a responsibility.

to make sure that we provide the best we can for our children. But if you are providing for them and you're in a relationship, prime example, all of us has been young, been in a situation before that you might have took a girl out on a date, you might have did whatever. Now, when you pay for the stuff, you don't think to keep the receipt because you're in a relationship.

So you're not keeping the receipt to say, well, this is what I paid for you and this and this and that, you and the relationship. So you, you occupy it as if we and this thing together, we're going to be together. But when the relationship breaks off and you don't have the paper trail and they go back and say you didn't do, you can't prove that you did, even though both of y'all know that you did and it did happen. The part of, part of that is then if you have a bill,

and child support is a bill, then you need to show a record that you paid the bill. It's before they give you the bill, Keith. It's before they take you to court. You have to go to court and prove that you've been doing what you say you're doing to prove her word is wrong. And they take her word over yours. Freedom. Father, welcome to the court. I don't want to remember. Welcome to the court. Oh, my goodness. Good morning, everybody. Good morning.

I feel for the only person wronged in the court general child support. I would say in the situation we're talking about further right out, have another judge because some judges just are not going to do what they're supposed to do. In my situation with my parents, my mom went to court trying to get my dad to pay child support. He was making big money in the 70s.

They sided with my dad. My mom said he was not taking care of us. He was. He came in his work clothes. My mom was dressed from head to toe. They sided with my dad, so they pretty much told my mom get it together. And another thing for our child support, I wish there was some way that women who have children

who do not know who the father is. I mean, really don't know. I wish there was a system or something that they can go to child support, maybe give the DNA of their child and have it matched up some kind of way with people who, me and who are already in the child support system. No, I can tell you- There's some people out there like that. I can tell you what happens in a situation like that. It's up to her.

to identify all of those partners she has. And I'm only telling you what I know. I did it on both sides. I know that because I did something called good cause when I worked for income maintenance. My good cause was to say, well, she can't cooperate with child support either because of domestic violence around that relationship or maybe she just doesn't know.

Now, that becomes problematic for her because if she's the primary caretaker of that child, she's trying to get support. And let me tell you, that is rare. It happens, but it's rare. The vast majority of people have a sense of it could be one or two partners who you were with and then able to identify them, right? Six partners, 10 partners. What if she's a prostitute out there on Atkinson Pregnant?

doesn't know who the father is, but eventually we want to know whether she's not going to be able to find that out. And there is, but then that would be a question then of her trying to receive public assistance and then she would have to be able to litigate that in terms of, I cannot check, right?

And look, just by the reaction that people have, we also have another portion of the population where she wants to defend him because she's worried about the relationship breaking up if she cooperates with child support. Now, the problem with that is the relationship might eventually break up and it's going to be very difficult. Then you're going to want financial support because the person's in the home.

there's an assumption that they're contributing to the support of that home. That person leaves the home and it gets, oh man, or you go out and you have other children. So, you know, and that parent wants her kids financially taken care of. You know, so it can get real complicated because of the adults, not the children, because of the adults. And keep us to the maximum that the hospital can take.

There's a limit after, let's say I know what is it, one kid is 17%. Two is 25, three is 29, four is 31, five or more is 34. Now that's with one parent. Now child support does not in the state of Wisconsin take more than 50% of your check to satisfy child support order. That's different than the percentages used to establish how much you pay in the order.

Now, the only exception to that is then when they collect the R&D fees. So it's 17% for one child, 25%. But then we do have, like I said, serial dads out there. So then that's going to be for them. So you're telling me you can be taking 25% with this woman because we got two kids. And then another woman I could have two kids with, you can take another 25%.

for that house. I think they adjusted based on that. Man, I know you do financials when you go in. And so I mean, because the object is your ability to pay. Man, but I got to live too, right? Yeah. No, they don't care because man, I know some and again, this dude had he had six or seven kids with one person. No, I'm sorry. He had five kids with one person, two with another person. The courts took every bit of what this man had. He was living in a shelter.

Yeah, he was living in a shelter because he couldn't the jobs and he would get up and work all day long at the end of the day when he got paid his check For them two weeks. I said his checks was 60 bucks And mr. Right out There's a situation I know Mr. Right out. Yes, ma'am man was sleeping with his boss. You know how much my child support checks would be how much

like a dollar, seven dollars. And when he passed away and went by his house, he had to nerve to have a check from what is that tax when you get your tax refund, he framed it and it was a dollar. Yeah, because you don't get anything from, you don't get some taxes. You don't, and there's a lot of young people, I'm telling you, I've seen it for myself. When tax time come around,

these people that are going through the situations, you see people going to the store, spending their tax money, getting new cars and saying they're balling, and the young men that's on the block that's hustling, the reason why they're on the block hustling is because if they did work a nine to five, they didn't see any money. So how do you supposed to live? How do you, and it's all set up, it's strategically set up to put us in a bar.

You would be in that, hold on. You would not be in that bound if a child wasn't created. Yeah, but okay. Hold on. That is true. However, I'm going to hang up and listen. I love you all. Thank you. And that is true. But Keith, look at it again. If you're trying to figure out life, you try to figure out life because there's no manual to this. So you figuring out life. And as you go through life, you get in relationships.

In a relationship, you tend to sleep with the person that you with. So if a child is formed... There is such a thing called birth control. And there is, but again, birth control is at 100% just like condoms is not 100%. I get it, but condoms properly applied... It ain't 100%. Condoms properly applied is 100% effective. Who told you that? Planned peer review. Ain't nothing 100%. Condoms properly applied... Properly.

is a hundred percent and when you get done ain't nothing a hundred percent because condoms properly apply can we reiterate that please listen listen listen listen listen to the listen to the the entire sentence condoms properly apply are one hundred percent effective well don't apply don't even

Don't even put yourself in a position. So the operative word there would be properly applied or just choose the way of how about women who say I take birth control pills and I still get pregnant and then one of the questions and I'm glad some of these advertisements for these different drugs point this out. If you are on a birth control pill.

and you take a antibiotic, your doctor says you need to use another form of contraceptive because what it does, because a birth control pill is nothing more than a hormone pill. That's all it is, right? When you go to the, what is it, the day after, is that plan B? There's a super dosage of hormones. What I'm saying to people is you're correct right now, nothing is 100%.

But when you're in the 90s You know the top 90s it really and then I think people and that's the thing and maybe this is nature Where we might suspend judgment. That's how we procreate, but I'm just saying man that When people going I would hear women. Oh, I got pregnant. I was still on birth control. I'm saying were you taking something else? Yeah

You know, because if you're taking something else, it could have impact. And physicians will tell you that, especially women and childbearing age. So question is, and I know we got to get out of here, but is there any type of law, any type of thing that a man can stand on if he's in a position with a woman that says, and he made it clear he don't want any kids?

Now, I know you gotta take responsibility for the stuff that you do. But if she say to you, hey, I can't get pregnant, whatever, whatever, whatever, and she get pregnant and say she gonna have a child, is there? Now, I'm only playing devil's advocate because I want to hear your response to this. But is there any legal ground that he can stand on and I'm out? No.

Right because you got to take responsibility for you. No, and if you don't want to have no babies Don't don't have no sex. Hey, wrap it up CEO. Oh, now you're encouraging to wrap it up. Let me thank Mr. Doreen Davis and Divo. Thank you. I'm positive. Thank you. The good Lord will agree. Don't rise up to talk to everybody tomorrow and as always go for this place in peace.

What we are going to do is turn every ounce of our righteous anger into righteous mobilize because we are in a state of emergency that ought to cause everybody to care.

Good morning.

Welcome to Community Voice.

I'm your host Keith Parris.

I want to thank everybody for joining us this morning.

Good

morning, brother Debo.

Good morning, brother.

Keith, how are you feeling this morning?

I'm good, sir.

How are you?

I always wonder.

I'm good, but I always wonder when you come in and you're very, very quiet.

Are you in deep thought or what's going on with Keith when I see that?

Yeah, I'm usually in deep thought.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah,

that's what it is.

Yeah, that's what it is.

I gave him my out.

I said, I'm going to talk to myself.

Yeah, remember?

Yeah, that's right.

Apostle, what's up, man?

Bishop, chairman of the board.

God bless you.

How's it going,

man?

And they both answered our station on November 3rd.

David Crowley, DJ Fish does the same with their fish.

Their fish filets are...

I naturally tend.

Yeah, because they ain't

real.

There's no way there's any fish that fed.

Yeah.

I mean, unless there's, it's a,

it ain't real, man.

Well, you know what I've found is that there are different.

It's why I told you this once before, Jermaine.

I always, pretty much, I used to like filets, but I stay away from them now because you don't know what you're getting.

Yeah.

It'd be hard for you to fool me.

with catfish steaks.

Right, because of the bones.

Yeah,

I

know what I'm getting there.

But you know what?

Nowadays, man, I know this is going to sound crazy.

But if they can create animals, they can create bones and all that other structure to.

Conspiracy with a

cube.

I say with a Z with this one, man, because again, I've been telling y'all, man, that food that's over there that they call catfish is not fish, it's not

Man, that's dolphin man.

That's that's that's they're not they're

not manufacturing

it.

So yeah, but we Yeah, but when you try to sell it to me as cat and try to confuse me and you like that's like some of these places But you do realize that more than you got

Farm

raised cat.

Yeah farm.

Well, you can taste the farm work right you can taste the difference.

There's is farm raised because of halau

Halau

halau

Allow for Muslims is what is allowable for them to eat.

It's like kosher Dietary cold, okay, and so Yeah, I don't I think they're probably getting it from because most catfish now is farm.

Yeah, you know caught from the wild right so Yeah, but I like it

China China has cat that's a different kind of catfish

Yeah, it depends on but if it's usually You know, it's a little bit of history here back in the I want to say meant to late 70s.

No, it would have been earlier than that the honorable Elijah Muhammad had They did it they had a deal and you know, the nation of Islam had restaurants and so they had whitey

And they were getting it directly from, you know, Arabs.

And so that relationship, I mean, that goes back, like I said, years in terms of it.

But I didn't think, and I don't have to look, man, just look it up.

It's catfish allowable.

I

know that, I know they're not around anymore, but I know a restaurant in particular that was selling a infamous perch buckets.

Oh, yeah.

But

I just happened to

be at restaurant Depot one day when they was getting 15 cases of sway.

Yeah,

that's why ever

you want to

pronounce it.

Yeah.

But the question is, because some of those fish are in the same families.

So it's like sway, a part of the catfish family.

Yeah.

Well, even if it is, don't tell me it's cat and it's not.

But then I'm not lying to you though.

No, you are.

It's still in the family.

It's sway.

You're right out, but but you're an offspring of what?

Look, okay, prime example.

Let's use that.

I like that I'm a ride out, but I have some other causes that are Like locks and Williams and all

that

stuff, right?

So I wouldn't say that at the end of the day Williams

Y'all

got same blood though.

So we say blood line

Okay, so so y'all still

Same thing, but it ain't a right.

They ain't right.

I'll stay with us.

That's just what they call

you.

Yeah.

But no, if if you selling me cat, keep what you come up with.

I want me I'll make.

We were doing this while you figured out.

And you just

put

his phone down like what you come

up with.

It says that most Sunni Muslims can eat catfish, but views differ depending on Islamic school of thought.

The Sunni views.

Hello.

The majority school, the Shafi, the Maliki, and the Himbali schools state that almost all sea creatures and fish are lawful to eat.

The Hanafi school, the Hanafi school generally requires fish to have scales, but scholars have researched catfish and classified them as a valid type of fish, making them permissible.

You can read more about the classification in the Sharia law.

Shia views, so under Shia,

So, just so you know, Sunnis would be the Saudis.

Shia would be the Iranian, some Iraqis.

Many Shia legal rulings state that fish must have visible scales to be eaten.

Catfish status, because catfish do not have traditional scales, many Shia scholars consider them impermissible.

You can read more on the viewpoint of Islam.

So, it's a way apart of the catfish family.

It could be.

But I don't think that you can advertise something as catfish and it's not catfish.

I don't think you can do legally.

Right, right.

Yeah, because that's false advertisement.

Because when they were something with McDonald's, they were advertising the shakes and they really wasn't shaking.

They really weren't shakes,

yeah.

And it was a

lawsuit.

Yeah, so I mean, here's the other thing.

That's

different, though.

That's not in the shake family, whatever they were utilizing.

Yeah, it was.

It was still kind of... It wasn't

like Mott or

something like

that?

No, it was...

I don't know if you've seen the Michael Keaton movie founder and it's on Ray Kroc.

He was in Minnesota and he was up.

I think he was trying to expand franchises there.

That's where he met his wife, Joe, the second wife.

And they had come up with a way because part of the problem with doing a shake was you had to figure out how to store the ice cream, the milk.

They came up with this pre-mix that was not really.

Oh, a shake.

So I don't know if McDonald's uses real ice cream in their shakes now in terms of what it is.

But here's my observation.

One of the reasons why you won't see catfish places in Brookfield is the market is not there.

Really?

Yeah, the market's not there.

Those folks are not eating fried catfish like certain other groups eat fried catfish and fried chicken and Think about trying to find a Kentucky fried chicken in Brookfield Try to find a Popeyes in Brookfield.

Well, I mean, but I think that's I think that's strategically designed like that though.

What do you mean?

well Because you you find all of the unhealthy stuff

in our neighborhoods.

That's because

we buy.

We buy

it.

I get it.

But again, it's still if you put unhealthy stuff in front of hungry starving people and that's the options that they have, that's all you gonna buy.

So then what's the other option?

Not to have it there

and then people don't

have anything?

Well, no,

give us the good healthy stuff.

Give us that.

And we

afford the

good.

How much is that?

Keith, how much of that comes down to city government, though?

Do you think that,

you know,

a while back in Chicago, they were trying to limit the number of fast food outlets they had in the black and distressed communities.

But part of the problem was, yeah, we could be healthier, but it was also the people that were employed by those fast food restaurants.

And so you had that whole economic argument.

I'm not saying it's valid.

I'm just saying that was the

economic argument that people were making.

because people have jobs.

Look, the good food cost, I'm sorry to put it that way, but if you're really trying to do healthy foods, natural foods, that costs more money.

I mean, but doctor, we got it because we spend money on unnecessary stuff, like $400 shoes and $500 bills.

So it ain't that the

money is not there.

Why you're not looking people's videos, man?

I mean, I'm just saying because you said that it's expensive to which it is.

But it's not that we can't afford it.

We just choose not to spend it that way.

Because money is in the hood.

Because if it wasn't, you wouldn't have these stores that come set up.

But you know, we collectively spend more money than any other race of people.

Right.

So that's what I'm saying.

So if you change our options,

and give us some good options because all this stuff that we're spending money on is that it has been passed down the line, generations down the line.

So you might have seen uncle dressed like that.

You might have seen, you know, granddaddy dressed like that.

And that's what you want to do though.

You want to spend that kind of money.

So if we change, if we change the narrative of the neighborhood to healthy, healthier stuff.

Keepers that the lady said.

Last week, I think the lady was in from the housing.

She was like you driving the rain a land rover, but you own no land.

Oh,

no, right.

Yeah.

Well, I mean and that's that's that's our concern that you know people say fool I laugh every year doing Thanksgiving with people giving turkey giveaways because

Yeah,

a lot of people or don't know how to cook because they have I mean you have a generation now Where fast food is a staple that's it and a lot of that is you know the scheduling in your life You know, I have a buddy who would say you know his mom cooked every day Right.

She cooked every day, but that that's not that's not the case

Yeah, how many families you see sit down exact dinner at five o'clock right

and that's real scarce now because you got

People one that's all over the place.

They still kicking it.

They still so like when we grew up mama Like when we came home from school, we smell food cooking because she was getting stuff ready and prepared so the kids can eat do Do your homework take a shower or your bath and get ready for bed so you can do it all over again

and I must say I Have noted and I find myself doing it all the time.

I'm always looking at

Which is more prominent than I've ever seen it a lot of chefs and I'm seeing them use Fresh vegetables and they're cooking

and

you know like even like your smoked song

and

then your different dishes that we traditionally didn't get into exactly We've kind of broadened our horizons if you will from from that standpoint Even like jerk chicken stuff like I didn't eat that kind of stuff

But I kind of opened up a little bit and I've eaten some things that I like.

Well, salmon, I didn't eat salmon though when we was younger.

I think, but it's also exposure.

You know, we eat jerk food because we have a West Indian presence here.

And so, you know, that's a staple.

You know, we did fried food here.

See, but jerk always been here though.

No, yeah.

I mean, you you'd have people always had like spices.

Jerk is just a spice that people use.

But if all your spices were salt and pepper, that's what you

use.

And then it's.

And then it's out there.

Yeah, you

know, you know, you're going to have

the lorries.

Yeah.

And then it's passed down to the generate.

And that's true because I find myself that when I'm cooking, I do the same thing.

And then my dad and my mom used to do with the season that they use, because that's all we knew.

Caller, welcome to the program.

Good morning.

Yeah

Yeah, you

got his own speaker

No, I'm in a car.

Oh,

okay.

Well, no, you handle you good.

All right.

What we

say Okay, so let's just bring it What do you think it's the better brain?

In terms of health or just health?

Health or good bread.

Like, no artificial additives coming out of it.

Just flour and water and yeast, stuff like that.

Like, what bread do you think comes like that?

You know, if you want to...

Yeah, if you buy your, if you buy bread fresh, the problem with fresh bread is it has a very short shelf life as opposed to you buying the loaf of bread, right?

Like if I'm right, which one?

Yeah, probably healthier, but there's also convenience.

And so then people are, you know, you, you, you get bread that's going to last a little bit.

You don't want to have to throw the bread out in two days.

Where if I buy

a loaf of bread, you know,

that

you put it in a refrigerator, wouldn't it

last longer?

Yeah, it could but it shouldn't be and even then they tell you about leftovers.

How long should you leave leftovers in a refrigerator?

About two days though.

See, you say two days and and and so it really depends, you know, yeah, but I you know if we could fresh fruit fresh vegetables

I'm sorry

Well, I mean, I

think when you got it, but if you go there's certain people and again, this is this is a price piece

You know, we can go to Sendix and they always have fresh vegetables.

Oh my God,

we're talking horrible vegetables at Sendix.

Oh, really?

Oh my God.

It was the right guy.

They put a piece on their vegetables.

Oh, okay.

So I'm just trying to make people wear like, like all the different brands.

They're all about one corporation.

Now, if you think you buy in host goods or not hosting.

What is it?

Yeah, Mr. Garen, we don't get it.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Oh, my God, they're getting strong.

Oh, well, I was just saying, like, all of the breathing, even the organic breathing, it's these, it's these stuff in it that, you know, hurt your body.

I didn't even know why.

You don't suppose that you could work.

We're supposed to get rid of it.

You don't talk to the stories.

Because when you store it, it creates this bad period that's supposed to be real hard.

But they're not knowing that.

And like minute rice, it's not a good rice.

Half of it is plastic.

Yeah.

It's

what?

It's plastic and new

rice.

Yeah.

So that is true because if you

if you cook the rice and let it sit and dry out and let it sit in that pot for days, you'll see how it turns the outer ring of it is like plastic.

That

is

true.

That's not.

That's the residue from plastic.

That's plastic.

That's

plastic.

Doc,

I'm telling you, get you some, get you some Jasmine words.

You know it takes you gotta really you gotta cook that like one couple right?

It takes two cups of water to cook.

It's so soft, it's so soft.

It's good, soft.

As you put it in the refrigerator and it get cold and hard, you can break it up.

The middle right, you can break it.

Some of these places that you get the rights from these Chinese

restaurants.

I just don't know.

And matter of fact, if you don't, if you don't believe him, though, you can try this experiment yourself.

Go get the minute rice, put it in a pot.

Let it sit for a day or two.

Just let it sit and dry out and then try to dump that rice out.

to clean the pot

you go see

exactly what he saw because i know exactly what you're talking about because i've seen it for myself i've seen

it okay um says minute rice is real food actual rice but it can contain microscopic pieces of plastic i'm telling you okay

so the

microscopic pieces of

That would

be 120

pieces of it.

Instant rice.

The processing studies show that process and instant foods can pick up tiny plastic particles known as microplastics during manufacturing, factory processing, and packaging.

Higher levels.

Research indicates that instant or pre-cooked rice can contain higher levels of microplastic contamination compared to raw traditional rice.

reduction.

The

rice must

be washed.

Wash the

rice before cooking it.

Can help rinse away a significant portion of surface micro scopic or micro press pack, micro plastic particles.

But do they say you this?

It

sticks

to the

rice.

No, but check this out though.

Check this out though.

Now the when you go buy the rice is there a sign on it saying that they contain there's no sign There's no nothing so you put in plastic in your body.

Well, let me can I give you okay?

I got that.

Let me give you another example If you're cooking macaroni and cheese, right?

Okay, and you

go in

and you buy the shredded cheese Okay, they put wax on that shredded cheese for shipping That's why when you look at recipes they say rated

because if you go and buy a block of cheese, it doesn't have that same right.

So anytime you go in and you have, so minute rice is pre-cooked as opposed to you getting a bag of rice and doing the slow cook, right?

So if you're seeing that now, again, it's not as plastic.

It's just that it contains these micro plastics part of

shipping.

But in that process when you cook and do it form,

because the that plastic is from the rice grain that it can actually come together and form.

You know, after you cook it and you dry it and it's and it's hard.

Once you clean that pot out and you dump that rice into the garbage, you can see.

You can see it all in the ground up.

Okay.

Okay.

One more thing.

What kind of rice do you eat?

I eat jasmine rice now.

The white rice Okay,

this is the plastic like film or residue you often see cooked and cooked rice including minute rice is almost always excess natural starch rather than actual plastic

So

it's

the snow

No,

no now I can take I can take the jazz the rice and make the egg rolls with that starch Get you some

I think

that any time that you get something that's pre-processed, there is, because you have to ship it.

And then the

question

becomes, how come it can keep a shelf life?

And I don't know what the shelf life is for natural rights.

Now, again, we want quick rice, so we don't want to

go in and do what you know.

I'm going to cook rice with my little cook that my

grandmother

cooked

it.

Right.

It don't take that long, man.

It's so beautiful how that rice will work.

I mean, it takes about the same amount of time.

When you're just using the water, you clean it, you put you some salt, a little butter in it, and a little pear at the top.

And he put your rice in there, and just let it sit.

And voila, you got some pretty, yeah.

I love rice, I love rice, I love it.

Catfish, be careful with the catfish.

You buy catfish off the square, they're coming in real fast.

If you don't finger, then you throw it out.

And it look like jelly on the top.

Take it back.

That ain't, that ain't catfish.

And if you want some catfish, all you have to do is call if you got fish, I'll catch you some of that old real catfish back.

I can see it's gonna come up, y'all better get y'all orders in here.

The problem though with fresh caught catfish is they're bottom feeders, so.

No, not really.

You can go down to Mississippi and I can buy it from where they raise it at on top.

And it's weird

because catfish

don't eat.

Yeah, it's like a fur.

Stay far.

Yes, stay far, stay far.

But it's weird to see catfish coming up to the top of a water and eating.

But they got to be eating

the insects.

They're eating the insects.

No, they feed them pellets.

OK, that too.

But if you see fish coming up a lot of times, they're eating the insects.

No, these farms, they die.

Farms, what I'm saying.

But you can see fish.

And I'm not a fisherman.

Oh, no.

Oh, yeah, I'm a fisherman though.

Um, yeah.

I saw some characters eat pigeons.

Okay.

All right, man.

a whole pigeon.

They could make a boom.

They kept fishes out here,

bro.

Jaws.

Right.

Baby Jaws.

Baby

Jaws.

Here I'm playing here.

I don't need about the size of baby's man.

Did you hear that?

Okay.

Right.

Wow.

I'm bothering you.

Alright.

Two feet tall.

Right on the Mississippi.

Go to Arkansas.

You know where the corn, where them trains run and get that corn?

Mm-hmm.

Oh, there's a monster who's in there.

All right, let me

get the next call All right, let's do this call.

I see you.

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East Paris.

All right, welcome back.

Caller, we thank you for your patience.

Welcome to the program.

First of all, I want to say good-bye to you and your staff and everything.

I grew up in Milwaukee and sometimes I get a headache when I drive home.

I don't know how long I'm going to be living in the inner city.

I'm going to try to say this in a very polite way.

Midges is going to be the downfall of the north side.

And I personally feel we have adopt this mindset because things are done at a sub level.

We should be okay with it or we keep using

this excuse for poverty is why we can't do no better, but we all have free will.

We can wash our hands after we do number two, but we don't know how to pick up as we walk to the garbage can.

We know how to drive when we get around white folks, but then when we get around our own and see this, it's everybody and cause people to stay in a house.

And I just feel like where we're going right now,

but North Side is going to continue to go down and it's going to continue to rock.

Now, we do have people moving in and that's perfectly fine because they don't come out during the daytime anyway because they're not trying to communicate with no blackies.

But I'm trying to understand why is it when it comes to us that the delivery should be okay when you can do your best but you're not choosing to do your best.

So you have a lot of black people are sick and tired of being sick and tired.

They feel they don't have no voice coming from nobody.

But then when 75% of the white people move in, not everybody is on these issues like no one's on good cocaine.

And people are sick of it.

You have people who have worked hard to pay their house off.

They didn't work 30, 40 years.

the neighborhoods is going to garbage.

But people want to complain about people moving in.

But when it comes to the niggas, oh, well, they don't know no better.

Oh, it's poverty.

Oh, my mama had seven kids and got a victim.

Oh, I grew up in the house and my mama and daddy was a jockey because they were doing no dolls with a bed.

Let me ask you a

question.

How much of that is the individual and how much of that is systemic?

But we still got free will though.

I'm all of that said people had free will but the system is still the system.

So how do you change a system?

That is detrimental to certain people certainly based on their economics that you change that

Well, you have to become the system.

You don't have you can't let a system dictate your success

You know what I mean?

You have to become the system.

Just because you are against me does not mean I supposed to fall to my hands and left or my hands and feet and feet.

I have no pride in myself and I'm going to be a junkie and don't try to do my best because I'm giving the system

the

power.

I'm using it as an example.

If they want to do it to be adjusted, hey, I

buy

your dope

if you're

going to leave.

You got alcoholics who get up and they function every day.

Exactly what

those alcoholics

have.

a standard.

See, stable junkies and stable alcoholics handle their business.

They're not out here acting like niggas.

There's a difference.

That's why they always say, we're the good junkies act, because they go to work and go home.

They seem

like they have something to act for.

But, you know, we can identify the problem, but then what becomes the solution?

The solution is we're going to have to force them out of the neighborhood.

We have this thing where- So when you force them out, but you still have black people, if you force them out of this neighborhood, you force them into another neighborhood,

they're still living the same, but they're still living the same way they

live when you,

you know, when you force them out.

So what?

So what?

You don't care where they go.

I

have to care

where they go.

If you're talking about

black

people, it's the least

among us

men.

We're not talking about black people.

We're talking about leaders.

No, no, I'm not gonna let you, we're talking about black folks.

No, I'm

not talking about po

folks,

right?

And so when

people, you got po folks who does right, Mr. Perry, you got po folks that keep their house clean.

They raise a

kid.

But here comes the law.

Here come the law of opposites.

If you have somebody doing what they're supposed to do, you also going to have somebody not doing what they're supposed to do.

That's just the law of opposites.

I wish we lived in an ideal world where everybody did everything they were supposed to do

and do it right, but that ain't the world we live in.

I understand it, but what I'm saying is, Mr. Parris, as long as you have the standard of the poor both, you're not getting a Panera bread.

You're not getting none of those good restaurants

because you don't have people who can afford Panera bread.

That's that's the difference.

See this is economics.

That's what drives it and we have the subtext of race We have the subtext of all these other things, but it's all about the dollar man Okay, I mean

What is that 22 and sure.

Okay.

Well, I'm just saying, man, I kind of wish everybody was like you and me.

No,

I understand what Mr. Pierce, what I'm saying is in order for the north side to prosper, they're gonna have to be fleshed out or what's gonna happen is.

you're going to continue to get the genification of the white people that's moving in.

And then when you get more white people, then your black politicians are going to get in front of that camera.

So you will have to understand the only thing that black people are good for when it comes to Shepherd Express, section eight, the mental health badge and food hatcheries.

Because that's the only

thing that's being pushed

on.

I'm telling

you, man, either you want to see this problem solved or you want to complain about it.

I want

to see the problem go on to the matter.

If they need to move, they need to cut back on the Section 8.

They need to cut back on the women's assistance.

They already doing that.

Well, they need to push them out.

Because if they don't, the neighborhood going to go down and the white people going to move in.

And then when the white people start moving in, don't sit here and get all upset because.

We could have took care of this a long time ago.

And you know what, Mr. Pierce?

I know some of you black politicians stayed near giving the metal finger to the camera.

But I'm going to tell you this, you couldn't move like your food moves if the last thing was Krawalowski, and it was an organic eater.

Because I'm going to tell you something, you would be on it like your nose on good dope.

And just because we black doesn't mean we got to settle with midges.

That's not how we was raised.

All right.

Appreciate you, ma'am.

Yikes.

Carla, welcome to the program.

Good

morning.

Good morning.

Oh, boy.

Here we go.

No, no,

no,

no.

See what I call is here you go.

Hold on.

Listen, brother, because I'm calling.

We're not

here to go.

Hold on.

It started with plastic rice.

Right.

Then we had Al.

So, you know

You guys were talking about fishing and I wanted I couldn't call it that mom Okay, because I wanted to say something about the fishing and I understand my man was telling you opera story And y'all could love y'all cutting short a little bit, but I believe my man is a real fisherman Yes, but the biggest fish that I caught catch fish

was up in a brown, uh, Princeton.

I called a flathead.

A flathead is a different kind of catfish.

You don't eat off the bite.

You only lie, move, and bait.

You got a fish for him with a chur, and you throw it out there, and you get a hit.

You know, and sometimes it might take all day, all night.

When you hit one, you're gonna hit, he's a yellow cat, for him, flat.

He only fooled with lie, move, and bait.

Then the biggest blue cat I ever caught.

was up there in Depeer, which is off the Fox River as well, coming out of Green Bay.

In Depeer, I caught a big blue, and I got pitches for 9 jacks, you know, so, and this ain't no AI, because guess what?

A couple of them pitches I got, we had Polaroid, not Polaroid, but the kind you had to take in and get them and develop.

The old 9 milliliter was yet, what was it?

The 35 milliliter, you had to take in and get them developed at Walgreens, you know, so I got pitches before the biggest.

Wall, I mean, not the biggest walleye, but the biggest, more than I ever caught.

You ain't gonna believe this.

Lake Michigan, man, was like probably 46 inches.

The joint was long, taller than me.

I mean, taller, you know, up around my chest.

And she was a female.

I got her right now in there, coming in behind the post office down there.

Lake Michigan, I think that's the, what river is that?

But it comes off of Lake Michigan, and then it runs up.

It runs up.

It's writing back in a post office downtown.

But anyway, man, listen, the brother called the enlightened.

Now, he said everything that we would call for, that we would say white supremacists would say, and we would get mad at white supremacists for saying all those mean things, OK?

But guess what?

He gets to come in and blab about the better community.

We understand we got deals in our community.

Every community got deals.

And by the way, big brother,

uh they they already hear and they they already hear in our community and guess what else they're here in our community and they bought some unwelcoming guests with them all you got to do is look in their asses around here buying everything they can buy you see them burrata brothers they only want JJ fish matter of fact a guy that

The JJ Fishman buying up all the real estate.

He buying the little real estate.

A lot of times you see these cards coming to your house.

You think they got white faces on them when you call the realtor broker.