Supreme Court Decisions and Mental Health Stigma: A Deep Dive

Good morning. Welcome to Community Voice. I'm your host, Keith Pearce. I want to thank everybody for joining us this morning. Good morning to Facebook. Good morning to YouTube. What up, Clark? Who you with? I'm good, man. How are you? I'm doing fine. I'm doing fine.

Apostle. Yes, I got a text yesterday and they referred to you in the text. Apostle. He did give you an A. He was trying to catch up with you. So take the A away. You got his full attention. Apostle. Apostle. Let's see. All right. Hey, y'all. The chat room is open. Let's see here. I'm reading from Michelle's program.

The Associated Press just reported Supreme Court sides with Trump administration or mail voting restrictions ahead of the midterms. Well, they didn't quite side with them. Well, what they did was they didn't want to decide on it. They sent it back to the appellate level. Well, well, the question that I was going to ask you, because I saw it coming across the screen and said that the Supreme Court on with this mail in, but in order for you to qualify for a mail in ballot, you have to be on this list.

So, who decides who's on the list? Well, it's the voting rolls. And they want access to the voting rolls. Look, if we didn't learn anything from 2020, even though you might have a mail-in ballot, if you can drop it off at one of the drop boxes, it's gonna get there because he had already said that they were going to have the mail U.S. postal actually not get priorities to ballots. In the past, they did.

So, and then the hypocrisy of all of this is Trump votes by mail. And so I guess the exception is that you're the president of the United States. But I think the other issue now, I'm not a constitutional lawyer, but one of the issues is that states can run or states have.

jurisdiction over their own elections. And the only time that the federal government steps in is when the Constitution was violated. So, you know, we had where they had to step in every voting rights cases in the South in the 50s and the 60s. Congress then went in and further codified it by doing the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Part of that Voting Rights Act of 1965.

was something called pre-clearance. Pre-clearance said that there were seven states in the South who, if they changed their election procedures, would have to get pre-clearance from the Justice Department. There was a case called Shelby versus... What's my guy's name? Holder.

and where the Supreme Court basically said, hey, you know what? They're not discriminating anymore. So that little section, I don't know if it's section six in there, that whole pre-clearance, it's not necessary now. And what did those Southern states did? They went in and gerrymandered. They gerrymandered and they're still gerrymandering. So this Supreme Court, and that's the crazy thing because everybody talks about Donald Trump and all this stuff.

But basically, those three very conservative Supreme Court justices were appointed by Donald Trump. And so you have a 63 majority in terms of conservative and how they view the Constitution. And I find it amazing that in some instances, like we don't expand the right to privacy. There's nothing in the Constitution. The original fathers had no concept of this.

And then you turn around and you expand the second amendment that is gun rights To now we're dealing with the consequences of having more guns in America than American people So, you know it and there's part of me that's sitting up wondering should there be a revolution Because this Supreme Court

as it's composed now is not really about the people. It's really about the elite. It's about corporate interests. We talk a lot about some of the so-called civil rights cases, but there's also workers' rights. It's also questions about deregulation when it comes to the environment where these folks are very conservative. And you know, I bet you, Bob, I mean, the fact that it was, was it five to four?

This whole birthright citizenship tells you something where every Supreme Court when that has been passed has almost been unanimous that birthright citizenship how it has it was constructed in the Constitution in terms of 13 14th and 15th Amendment and citizenship You know, so I

And it's always been a, if you're a student of history, you would notice that there's always this backlash. Some people describe it as white lash to any progress that particularly people of color make in this country, right? The Tea Party, the real conservative shift had everything to do for a lot of people with Barack Obama being elected president of the United States. That's not supposed to happen, right?

And so then you get the tea party. And the thing, and I said all the time, you know, there are people out there, white folks, who just have a real problem with being called racist when they're being racist. You know, you go to a Klan meeting and go, you know, y'all racist. No, we're not. Oh, yes, you are. Yes, you are.

And then when people talk about the Klan, it wasn't just blacks, it wasn't just Hispanics, it was Catholics and Jews, right? So yeah, you're racist. I mean, there's no getting around it. When people get up, when they were accusing Donald Trump of being racist, and he is, he had a black girlfriend. So did Thomas Jefferson. What's your point?

You know, I mean, it's maddening. It is just maddening, man. I'm trying not to lose my mind. Up in here, up in here. I'm gonna make me act the fool. Up in here, up in here. Call the welcome to the program. Yeah, good morning. First, you know, I agree with you 100%, but so funny is a lot of those people who are racists, they're race traders.

because you married a very joe, but you fantasizing and cheating on your wife or the black woman. But this is how you know people are very pathetic. How can you have white skin, white options, white privilege, and you still worried about somebody that's black? You gotta be real mediocre. And then you gotta remember this too. A lot of the Republican men,

They're angry with the women, because the women don't want them. And I want to ask you a question, Mr. Parris. Have you ever noticed when it comes to these Republican men, and they get very, very comfortable? They always want somebody to touch on, they know no square, because they won't rape a woman, because her innocence is already took in her inside for too deep.

But when they get real, real comfortable, have you ever noticed how they always want a black man to touch on a no-no square? And they don't even have a lot. You at all. Whoa, it had not been my experience. I guess it happens. You know, and I know you've been metaphorical. I don't know, man. Well, I'm just asking because you remember

and DC are the real hardcore Republicans have, you know, they got exposed because, you know, they know more about the homosexuals than the homosexuals. Well, they was down here in DC, messing around with chicks with big old sticks.

So my thing is how can y'all be so big prime in but now y'all want people to touch on your no-nose square and you won't bother with that wig like Dolly Potter with them breasts on your back. Because you know back in the day the pimps and the pussies used to dope date. You know and you know when it come to dope they do everything. You go down in them basements everybody at all five thirties, five clubs, they all playin' with each other with plastic dildos.

Have a shot this morning. Bye-bye. Oh my god. Wow. What the hell? Oh my god. No way. What's the word? That's a conversation about the NFL only.

Got caught with the prostitution Mr. Craft It's funny at Tom Brady's roast that came up and Tom Brady became very defensive all the offensive stuff people were saying that was the one and he Walked up to the dude and said don't say that blank again, right? And I guess one of the owners of the 49ers just got caught up in prostitution in Ohio

Yeah, that's what I think I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what that? Prostitution. Man, your egg got caught in the rain. Oh, all right. All right. I don't know if that changed my mood, but. In the movie, I don't know if it was Ted or Ted too. He said, no, it is. It's dudes with breasts.

I mentioned that documentary I saw here, right? It's called Soul Food.

And let's see, hold on. We got a call? No. Documentary. I just watched this. How do you spell gospel? G-O-S-P-L-E. Talk about my tutorial.

I smell Bible Documentary Netflix here it is There it is. Hold on. Let me do all No, it's soul food and it's and they and I mentioned it, but they had Pastor Valerie Daniels

Carter yeah, Joe Nathaniel, I don't know if they had Anthony McGay, but it was local No, it's like Netflix. Oh Netflix. Yeah Yeah, I know you didn't talk about it cuz I didn't you the Netflix are prime Hey, you know what I'm getting addicted to is This movie I mean this movie this series

Yeah, but you gotta be careful too because if you don't verify that stuff Yeah, we need to verify that give me the source

Yeah, I didn't hear nothing about the clippers. I mean, no, I ain't saying that it ain't possible. You know, with all this stuff going on or anything is possible, but. Well, boy, this is our start of Tuesday off. Wow. Yeah. Like I said, the greatest sentence discovery, right?

I'm sure it was happening more and then when people get caught. So anyway, well, that's it. Oh man, the links lost to the Valkyrie last night. Yeah, they lost to the Valkyrie last night. That was interesting. But Williams didn't play for the links. So call a woman to the program. Good morning.

There's one teeth. How you doing? I'm all right. What's happening? Oh, I dropped some candy on Saturday, but you guys didn't get it. Uh, no, we're the candy yet. You dropped some edibles off. We didn't get them. You ate the edibles, man. Oh, Clark. Clark, you ain't sharing. You know, sharing is caring.

What are you over this smile big grin on his face? The problem with edibles is that you know it takes about an hour for them to kick in. It depends. Not that I know I just read about it. It depends. You know I've never had an edible so I couldn't even but I've read that that's the thing that it takes it's a delayed response. No sir.

Okay, and tell me, my coffee's been cold for the longest now. You guys are warming up. You don't want to unleash that dragon, please. Please. You're going to hire everybody blowing on this coffee I have. You're going to print T-shirts for you, Michelle. Come on, man. Don't do that to her, man. Hey, you know what? I'm going to put that on the cap the next time. Keep my coffee hot or something. Yes. Okay. Yes. All right, brother, y'all have a good day, man.

All right, I'm gonna use that when I go out on date me somebody what's that like baby keep my coffee hot We could let me see how it work. Oh, let's see or Hey, baby, my coffee was cold till I met you now is even cold Well, cuz people drink ice coffee. Yeah, I don't understand but you know, so it's not a it's not a

Is that really considered coffee? Yeah. Oh, is it? It's just the temperature of it. But you know, I just drink black coffee. I don't have any. I remember having Cuban coffee. Cuban? It was really Cuban sugar. So sweet. It's strong, man, but there's so much sugar. Yeah, a lot of sugar. A lot of sugar.

Hey, you're listening to Community Voice. And hey, this morning we have a very special guest that's going to be joining us at the bottom of the hour. So keep it locked. You listen to again, Community Voice. I'm your host, Keith Paris. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. All right, y'all, we here with Mr. Debo. I got a question for you, man. What's up, man? What's your top five go to blues songs? Hmm.

Well, I know how to party, you know, make the party move. So I would certainly start out with some male waiters with hole in the wall. That would be my number one. I go to number two with King George and say, girl, you got it. And then, uh, nah, let's do Willie Clayton. It ain't fast, but it's one of them that get you going, of course. Lose my cool would be number three for me. Number four, love of mine by Buddy Ace. And then number five, it ain't no party by Willie C. Those would be my top five. All right, y'all, we here with DJ Clark Kent. Who you with? You fool.

And I got a question for you, man. What's up, bro? What's your top five go-to blues songs? My top five go-to blues song would be Obi-Wan Kenner. I'm about face down, Chimika Joquel, Grown Man, featuring King George. And then we got Hate on Me by Frank Johnson, which is one of my good ones. Someone else is stepping in by ZZ Hill and Mr. Sexy Man.

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It's just been an amazing recovery for this body of water. MMSD and Viola have been a big part of getting that cleaned and enjoyable for all of us. All right, welcome back. And I told you we'd have a very special guest in the studio this morning. She's back with us again, Dr. Sabrina Ali. Hello, everybody. How's it going? And Cold Football Hall of Famer.

Mr. LaRoy Butler? Good morning. Good morning. How are you, man? Every day of the day, sir. I was asking every single day. Every day. You say, living the dream, right? No, I was asking him was Sam Cassell at Florida State when he was at Florida. Sounds my God, man. That was the original point guard. You know, the statute of limitations has run out. I can tell this story. For intramural basketball,

We had to have a couple of people. We had to have Sam, and we had to have Deon Sanders, of course. Can't start, so he got that. Lawrence Dalsy, that was my roommate. And they would say, the frat, they was like, wait a minute, this guy look familiar. Because we couldn't sneak George McLeod on that, because he was 6'9".

But Sam looks like a guy, you know, got his backpack on and, you know, he's just chilling. And so they thought he was just a football player or a student or something. And Sam put up 39 on them boys. And then Charlie Ward was the other one.

because he let all those guys play man. So, shout out to Sam. I love him. He'll be the head coach real soon. I think he should be. Yeah. He had like one of the one of the great basketball IQ's. I love it. Sorry about that. That's okay. Sabrina's used to that. Well, that has a lot to do with mental health because I want to win. And I think the other piece is I just saw something this morning where they were saying that one out of four

former NFL players have talked about some of the issues they're dealing with. And even we had an event two years ago and Antonio Freeman was there. My favorite red bone. Is that right? Don't tell Dorsey London, I said it. I love for you. But his insight, but he was talking about, he says he's beginning to feel some of the impact. And football being a concussive sport,

you know, where you're, um, and it's a tough one, man, because people make that life decision. Yes. Um, I remember watching, um, documentary on the impact of injuries and they show Jim Otto and his post career and how he can merely get out of bed. You know, but it, is it, you know, obviously you think it's worth it, right? Well, here's the thing about what's so important about what Sabrina is doing on Saturday.

is to let people know that mental health, we didn't say mental health back when I was in college, because I went to school to be a social science major, psychologists, and communication. And it's different from when you forget your car keys, because anybody can do that, you know, because ultimately God made women smarter. That's the fact. It made God to protection.

And every guy to disagree with that, you need to call me. But it's different from losing your car keys. Where are they? Or forget in your wife's middle name. Or forget something that happened that particular day. A good friend of mine and a former teammate, Brett Farr, had a touch of Parkinson.

And now Amon Green's dealing with some issues. And the sad thing about it is, if we don't have events like Sabrina's having on Saturday, a lot of people probably wouldn't even talk about it. Because you would talk to be a tough guy. Don't say that you have deficiencies. But I tell people all the time, and my mom was my hero because I didn't have a father growing up. My mom did everything.

And then the inner city growing up in poverty things of that nature. It was always you just dealt with you know, just you just deal with it But now with health care so expensive some people say I can't afford to go to the doctor So you look for events to where you can go for free That can talk to doctors or talk to somebody any kind of therapists Just like we're having today is therapy

Just like talking to your producer, how do you spell Sabrina's name? In your mind, it's therapy because you're correcting something. But we're all on the same team, though. I struggle with spelling Ali. Yeah. Sabrina, no problem. Yeah, right, right. Dr. Ali is harder.

And Sabrina talks about it all the time when she comes on. This idea is stigma. And it's not just in the African-American community. It's in the entire community in terms of people having one even beginning to have the conversation. And that stigma is strong. It's so strong.

Like we were said, thank you for sharing your story there. My patient population is an underserved community. And it's just so important because if we don't talk about it and we don't break that stigma, how are we going to make any change? How are we going to prioritize things? And people just don't understand because when you are in that fight or flight mode and you're trying to go, go, go, poo food on the table, take care of your kids, do this, do that, you don't.

really realize how impactful that is. Maybe you're a little bit more angry that day or like your patience is a little thinner because of all the things that you've been trying to push down, but it's hard. It's hard to break that, but you only do it by having the conversation and having events. Yeah, we started the program off with DMX. I'm about to lose my mind. Yes. Up in here. Yes.

And all these things are triggers, right? And I'm watching shrinking. I don't know if anybody's watching shrinking on Apple. Oh, my God. It was about psychotherapists and how psychotherapists are dealing with their own.

Life issues, but then trying to help people with their life issues, right? Right and I have a therapist to shout out to my therapist, you know, and I had a friend She said a tongue-in-cheek, you know, and maybe it would be good to go and talk to someone I don't know what normal is Maybe sometimes I feel like young Frankenstein, you know abby normal, you know like your brain and but

It's societal. I mean, it's your environment. But then there's also things that are going on neurologically, right? It's your emotional state, right? And then you just talked about how we're in a go-go. So why is this important then to have a basically mental wellness fair for folks in the community? Great question. That's a great question.

You want to chime in or you want me to know you please? Okay, well, so I think for a couple different reasons one is for me I being community medicine director with the Ascension Family Health Care Center. I I think it's important for doctors and all doctors but specifically even more so primary care doctors to be out there in the community So that's part of it. So then people can understand that

Your doctor is human available, you know, you see them outside and Immersed into the community and that we care so I think that's part of having these events too is making sure that you understand that you have a partner that you can trust in your health care team and I know there's a lot of

distrust in the healthcare community and lots of different things spreading around about the healthcare community and lots of confrontations going back and politically. I'm not going to go into that, but so that's part of it. It's making sure that you know that you can go and talk to people, to your healthcare doctor about these things because

uh you need to be able to distinguish between mental health uh in its core anxiety depression etc etc versus other things which can also affect your mental health that maybe you have and it's making you anxious like abnormal thyroid or um you know being super anemic there's many different things that contribute to your mental health so that's part of it and then the other part is um just

Building a community, you know building a community around it again breaking that stigma partnering with all the awesome organizations that I'll shout out later To teach because it's not only therapy. You need multiple tools. You need our therapy animal therapy yoga meditation Plant therapy. We have a roma therapy all the things this year. I'm really excited but get back to something where you talked about

How important, then, is it for my primary physician to even ask me that question? How am I doing? Extraordinarily important. I mean, I shot it from the rooftops. I really do. I think that if your primary care doctor is not asking about your mental health, and I'm sorry to say, maybe find another primary care doctor. 100%. Yes, because...

Need to know that at first because everybody's not the same and you don't know what somebody went through That's why I'm writing a book now It's called locker room therapy Basically in the locker room We your brothers or your sisters and you don't get judged by What you talk about locker room because it never leaves a locker room

But what I would do, I would talk to somebody like Sabrina first. And you can tell the guys who've had therapy because they're good listeners and they're good communicators. But when Reggie White would speak, everybody would listen. But we also want you to listen when Keith McKenzie spoke. People that hear my voice may not know who he is, but he's just as important as Reggie.

No, that wasn't his brother. They were twins. You're correct about that. They were twins, but that keeps wasn't part of the family. Like I've met some butlers before, but he had no kid to me until I want some food at the cookout. But in that locker room, we just kind of, you just love each other. And that's when you, how many times do you tell your best friend that you love them?

Guys, when you hear that, it makes you feel it lowers the anxiety. I grew up with dyslexia. I was a special needs kid, special education. My teachers thought I was colorblind because every time they would show me something, I wouldn't just say it. And my teacher spoke up for me. And I love teachers. I really do. I think they're the smartest people in the world. I mean, they're the ones that

really helped me become who I am today, and I got it for free. And my teacher said, no, he's not colorblind. He just can't spell or pronounce magenta. So everybody laughed about it, but my teacher's like, sometimes we have to just sit back and wonder, what's going on with him to make him freeze up if it's something he don't know, instead of raising your hand and asking a question. My teacher cured that. If you don't know,

Raise your hand and That's the difference between a problem and a problem solver and that's why Everybody that comes is gonna get information on my book this Saturday from 12 to 4 at Villa Avenue Lockroom therapy is everything you need to succeed

in life because you're going to get judged outside of your home. And your home is like your locker room. Okay? You know how your mom used to say, whatever I say in the house, don't be telling people. She was right about that. And your dad said, listen, what are you talking about now between me and you? We create a mentally, a locker room, and then you leave and go play the game. But you have to be mentally focused on something, the trauma of winning a Super Bowl and losing one. You know, I was saying this Sunday,

that I appreciate ancestral intelligence, ancestral insight. But some of those things like, you know, what goes in the homes, goes on in the home, stays in the home. But sometimes you need to talk to somebody outside the home. I know what my mom was saying, like, you know, I'm gonna spread my business. But I think that also gets to the point where, and you see this as a medical professional, people thinking you're being intrusive,

when you're trying to get to what it is that's causing, in this case, the pain, the trauma, the difficulty. So how do we get people to basically understand certain things you might need to talk about outside of that environment?

I think it's communication. I said it before, you probably tired of me saying that actually, but it's true. That's what it is. It's communication, multiple things. I mean, 100%, knowing that you can go and talk to your medical professional, that you can go and talk to your therapist, and that stays private and confidential, which is important for folks to know. So that you don't have to feel that weight on your shoulders, like, oh, if I tell,

and so and so this, that they'll be upset with me about this or grandma or mom or whoever. And then you have that safe space to talk about everything that you're feeling kind of unload and walk through it and process whatever you went through. But on the flip side too, that...

discussion of like don't spread your business and stuff like that I think really is deep-seated in the fact that of that stigma that's in society don't you dare tell this person because they'll think that our family's crazy or something you know like

And that goes to that stigma that speaks to that stigma and that we how everybody walks around and pretends that everything is sunshine and rainbows and butterflies all the time. And my family is perfect. And we don't have arguments and nobody loses, you know, has fights or freaks out or, you know, has suicides or whatever, you know. So as what happens, football obviously is important in your life. Yes. And I hope I'm not when I say gave you meaning.

in some ways, right? You gave me meaning? Yeah, meaning in some ways, not your whole, but for many people, our identity is tied into what we do. Yes. Right. What happens when you walk away from that, right? That thing that, you know, you've been up here. Yes. Now, you know, it's out here. Like I wanted to know, how does Barack Obama after eight years of not driving go back to driving?

you know because you've been used to because you talked about the locker room right hundred percent yeah so how do you replicate that that that community of concern outside of that when we know for for a lot of ex-players it was doing what they do and do it well yeah that's a good question Keith because you're still Barack Obama you're still

up there. I never come down. I ain't came down since I was nine. Don't smoke or drink. Because the thing, when people ask me, as we, we all came together, the six of us in this room, people say, how are you doing? I say, every day is a vacation. I got that from my grandma. I said, grandma, what do you mean by that? She said, because I would never let people know what bothers me. They'll do it every day.

So in my mind, of course, I probably woke up four o'clock in the morning. Sabrina, you don't have this problem. Just men over 50. They go to the bathroom. And I hit my toe on the bed post. That thing hurt. So I wake my wife up. It's to death do us part. Why should you sleep over that snow? And I just hit my toe. Honey.

come see about me. Her people hurt. She woke up and she said honey, gonna be all right. I feel so good. I float to the bathroom. So that's so when I it is mentally. So I don't let people know what's negative to me. So when you retire and the reason why is a good question because when you

I mean, you make a lot of money, you're doing all these things in the community, and you have to retire. Guys do go into depression because they think that they've lost the name on the back of the jersey. And actually, you don't lose their name, you just lost the jersey. You still have to go to schools, go to your community, or whatever you want to do, have a plan.

And my plan was to be the same person who I am today So I won't get there, but I took those classes back in Florida State because I wanted to be a we didn't say therapists back then they said you want to be a shrink No, I was like, what is that? But the communication part of it is you're still the same person

because if you don't think you're the same person which you get in trouble they'll say former football player blah blah blah but when you do something good this guy did something good but in my mind I don't worry about the headline I worry about the story the headline gets people to look but what makes you click on it is you have to read the story so I tell people all the time that you're the same player

but you plan a different game. And I think that helps. I think we, you know, it's so many different things that happens. You know, people deal with empty nest, right? Yes. Just the things, but the importance of getting information, first of all, and then back to that word we used earlier, I think this is a community responsibility that we take the stigma away. Yep.

that people were able to talk. And so when they were able to be exposed to all these resources, where people were able to go in. And the only reason why I didn't major in psychology was I took it my freshman year was hard. And then sophomore year, that line was so long. It's like, you know, I'll get in the political science line. It's a little bit shorter. But, you know, being able to talk to people, like we, I feel like sometimes we do therapy here.

Yeah, yeah, no, that's definitely a community discussion and advocating for folks. You definitely are a big part of that plan because if if you don't talk about these in here too, you know, it's not only the events that's these conversations, but you also said something important like extrapolating the you know, even just anybody who is making big transitions in their life. He said emptiness and you know transitioning from

you know retiring but not only in your field but every retire me or retiring um that's a big transition for folks you know they're working for a long time and then all of a sudden they're not and they're like oh what do I do um and then also in that time too a lot of folks struggle with

those mental health pieces because of that go go go that we talked about before a lot of times in our lives we're not really realizing it because we're so busy now we're retired we have all this time in our hands and now our mind is able to think and marinate and you know we manage you know I mean you get through when you hear people manage look

People could care less. I'm having a bad day if I'm providing them with service. So then I have to supplant that. But at some point, I keep burying it that's going to come up. It's pet cemetery. That cat's not going down.

So, you know, being able to do it, I think that that's why events like this is so important, where people get out and it's not like you're in a clinical environment. You're in a community environment, which gets to the thing you talked about, that whole community care. So what can people, well, first of all, time, date, place? Yes, Wellness Wonderland at 2400 West Villard Avenue, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 5309. And it has the Ascension Family Healthcare Center.

Do you want me to go into who's going to be there? All right, cool. Let's do that. This is very important. It is. It is very important because we have amazing folks coming out. I've been working really hard with all of these different organizations to put it together. First, we'll shout out Leroy right here for coming on out. I appreciate you for coming and talking about it and helping to make that stigma.

Then Anthem, who partners with Leroy and Rita, she does some amazing, amazing work in the community. Lots of different. She is. I love her. That's my boss. I'm so happy that I found her. I just started partnering with them in October, and then you came to clinic in November to do the mental health talk. And they have been supporters ever since. Every community event, everything just, hey, how can I help? What can I do?

would just show it. Rita just shows up and she's like, here, help. Yeah, that's the one that mines in motion. We have a beauty pageant winner, Leah. We love her. Leah's been actually trying to help me speak Spanish because Rita won't help me. So Leah's been trying to help me because I want to be bilingual because I want to do more.

speaking in engagements. We have Pasquale who played professional baseball coming up from poverty and single family home home and he's one of my favorite principles in the world. We have we have doctors, we have we have professional people in all these areas and it's an organization we've been helping with so I want to shout out Ascension for giving us a platform.

to even talk about it. So it's going to be a lot of fun. Yeah, no. Mine in motion program was powerful. I really thought it was amazing. So I'm grateful for you guys. That being said, yeah, Ascension, all the people at the clinic. I mean, our medical assistants, front desk staff, resident doctor. Even the security there is very nice. Oh, the security, yeah!

He's actually coming out. He just retired, but he still dedicates himself to our community. He comes out and still volunteers every time for every one of my events. He does not let me go home and I'm there alone. He's like, no, I'm staying with you. We'll move things, we'll put things back. I mean, he's been in that community for 20 plus years and fantastic. And he'll be there Saturday too. So he's coming out, but all the doctors,

My community nurse partner, Jennifer Ovidi, she's everything. She's my right hand. She helps me do all the things, manage all the things. We do addiction medicine together. So shout out to all the wonderful people at the clinic, our resident physicians, our teaching physicians. Everybody's coming out, so I appreciate you all.

Getting back to the other wonderful organizations here because there's a lot to shout out. I'm really proud of it. Roger's Behavioral Health, Wisconsin Academy of Family Physicians, Mr. Dye's Pie, shout out Jonathan. He's been an original patron from the first year. From the first year I just went to talk to him. He's like mental health.

I got you in a pie donator ever since and increasing the amount of pie this year. He's given away 200 slices. Oh, boy. Delicious pie. It's delicious. I gotta start dieting now. WPS reptiles, pets helping people, Milwaukee Steve. He's this really cool juggler comedian guy who will be walking around. Friends of Lincoln Park, Milwaukee County Children's Disability Program. The Milwaukee Police

community people for they're coming out with their mounted patrol horse and also their ice cream truck. So that's exciting and then the fire department is teaching fire safety. They're bringing their fire truck, festival foods donated some things and then we have behavioral health at CSM, Milwaukee City Health Department, healing harmonies, National Alliance of Mental Illness, Barbara Koga.

us um outposts in American Red Cross so lots of wonderful wonderful partners and they'll be doing things from aromatherapy to meditation yoga animal therapy two kinds um

positive affirmation, temporary tattoos, positive affirmation art. There's a lot, but it's gonna be so much fun. And then as you go around, a little twist that I've created is that as you go around the different mental health stations, you learn, and when you learn, you earn coins and stickers. The coins gets us to be spent then on the carnival side, where you can spend them on dunking a doctor.

I'm glad I ain't getting in there. I tried to get you in there. No, I ain't doing that. I don't want to get my hair wet. But we have inflatable basketball, inflatable ski, all the things. We're giving away free backpacks, free school supplies, and food. And then I think the first 50 people get a signed Hall of Fame football card. So as soon as you get there.

If they disappeared, check eBay, read about it, sold them. Don't tell I said this. We're not on radio. I did not. I did not know that. Tell them not to get away cars. I said, where'd you get them from? I signed them. But it's something. How often do you wear that gold jacket? Hey, that's a good question. That's a good question.

I do get embarrassed, because I don't like a lot of attention, but it does cause a lot of attention. My godfather, Michael Witherspoon, retired from Withie Davidson after 33 years. And I went there with him because he's retiring. And I don't want to take away from him wearing a gold jacket.

But I said, I got to, because he's the best godfather. He's the kind of godfather when you call and he says yes before you ask. Yes, yes. I'm glad you wouldn't know what it is first. I mean, you need to cash out me or something. I got you. So I wore it there, and it caused a lot of tension. But it was fantastic for him, because a lot of people didn't know he was my godfather. And of course, we wear it during the week of.

August when we're in Canton the whole week but uh speaking engagements uh kiss a level you can pay X if you want to wear a jacket you gotta pay Z and um but again I would not have it if it wasn't but Gilbert Brown, Reggie White, Brett Farve, Antonio Freeman all my teammates without them I couldn't even

Possibly be that matter of fact people come up to me say where do you live? I say well, you know stalker I don't like when you're Hall of Fame you live in like LA, New York, Florida, Texas. No, no, I live Milwaukee and are shocked Why are you so accessible in the community? I was raised by the community. I Love the community. I mean you can't have it just your way all the time like

You know, you support me and my, you know, everything I'm going through, but I can't sit and hear five seconds of a Sam Cassell story or a story about you. So I try to be the same person who I was before I put that jacket on. But it's definitely one or two times a year is pretty much it.

And I would, I'm sorry about this. Go for it. But did you envision when you, when you played at Florida State and, you know, you great quarterback, great safety, but no disrespect. Deion Sanders is probably the greatest.

you know, I agree with you in terms of corner, but I mean, when you guys like, man, one day I'll be in the football hall of fame. I can envision Beyonce in that. But what was that something? You did your homework. You know, earlier, he said he didn't do that's not true. Keep one of those smart kids in the back that's your straight A's. I got seven Q's to be in the store. Yeah. Well, to me.

And I'm doing a documentary on my life story as we speak. And I'm doing it independently, so I can be the executive producer. Because real quick, I met with some Hollywood guys. And you know what? I got very emotional. A young man said, they were going to put up $6 million to do this project, my life story. I said to myself, this guy goes, wait a minute. You didn't grow up with your father?

Because we can't do a story with you talking about your mom so much and your grandmother. They don't think you're soft. I said, good. I'd rather be soft and free than hard and in jail. I said, now, he obviously didn't read the room or my story. Didn't have a father growing up. Because they always said if your mother raised kids in the inner city without a father, the kids are criminals. That's not true.

Not true at all. I had three brothers that was in the military. My sister was a nurse, and of course I played for the NFL. So when he said that, I knew I couldn't work with him, because I have six daughters, of course a wife. And I said, we can't do this project. Well, there's a lot of money. I said, it's not about the money. It's about the story. Because I want kids to know that you can go through, and I had braces on my legs, like forest gump.

I mean, I checked all the negative boxes you had in life. But the reason why I made it is because when I was nine years old, I told my mom, I said, I'm going to plan the NFL so we don't be poor anymore. I didn't use the word poverty because I never heard of it. You were poor. Food stamps. We had the pork with the pig on the can. Peanut butter, but was it really peanut butter? It didn't matter. It was spam.

But my sister made it, it tastes delicious. You just go and you pray to God that some stranger would leave something out of pantry. So when we go by there on Wednesday before Thanksgiving, we'll have something for Thanksgiving. When I made that commitment, my grandmother said, you know what? We believe you. I was nine years old.

So my whole time, and mentally, there was no plan B. And I don't advocate for people that don't just say what happened in my life. There was no plan B, I was gonna make it. And when I got that phone call on a rotary phone in Jacksonville, Florida, speaking of mental health, if you grew up poor your whole life with hand-me-downs and you never went to the mall and you never even had a lot.

of anything. I used to ride the trailways cause I was home sick when I was at Florida State. Remember the Greyhound bus? It was $9 with my student ID that you could barely, I mean that ID that was so dark it looked like a fingerprint. You don't even know it was my face. But I said that's me sir. He said I can't read and match it up. But the guy said,

I trust you because you come every Friday to go home and see your mama. You know what a man told me? You don't have to pay no more. Because you're going home to see your mama, admit the world to me. $9 a lot of money. So every Friday, he would be there.

he was swiped on his card paid for me. I found him and I got drafted and I said thank you. Yes, I expected to make it to the NFL and I expected to be in the Hall of Fame because my story

is something you've never seen before. And I want kids to please believe it's not up to another kid bullying you or somebody else for you to make it. It's up to you. And I always had my, put positive people around me to hold me accountable, growing up. And

That's the reason why I made it Keith is because I expected to do it and I did it because God Navigated my life. I didn't try to drive. No, I Let him show me the way I can take it from here So it's up to me to interact with people this Saturday from 12 to 4 at Ascension Family Health Center to say yes, this is

how it works. This is the plug. Well, you were speaking and I heard this and then we got it right. Beautiful. I was watching the World Cup and I don't know what team they were talking about. Yes, sir. But a guy said, you know what? He said, when you're hungry, you run faster. That was so profound when I heard that. Oh my God. Yes. He said that, you know, you put more effort when you're hungry and it is like, wow.

So, I mean, that's what I thought about when you said that. Yeah, 100%. And Freeman's son played in the World Cup. Antonio Freeman's son, Alex Freeman, played in the World Cup. I remember he was this high. I said, I don't know about soccer. I don't know the rules. He said, Uncle, I'll teach you. He's a young kid. Now he played in the World Cup.

Tell me God ain't good. Well, you know, and Antonio's story, you know, from Baltimore, his mama was about education 100% to the best high school. And then when they were making decisions about college, that's how he ended up at Virginia Tech. That's right. She was looking at the education piece and then to be able to see what his son, and I don't know if we were talking about, and that that's Michelle,

Do we talk about that he did not want his son to play football? I'm trying to remember. Yes. Is that right? Right. Yes. I thought he'd had that conversation. Yes. So the fact that he's world class when it comes to real football. Yes. Soccer. Man, this is give us the information again. Yeah. Really quick, though, that that support system, though, is so important. And thank you both for like saying that because even that hug, that handshake, that sit down.

You know, I, I can't tell you how many patients are like, they're really good. I'm like.

you absolutely can have a hug and you know or if they're tearing up and you know just putting a hand on our shoulder and giving a hug whatever no matter what it is it really just it makes a huge difference makes a huge difference to people who don't have that support so it's it's it's a beautiful thing so the wellness wonderland saturday august 29th 12 to 4 p.m. we will be really excited to have you 2400 wellness

2400 West Villard Avenue, Milwaukee, 53209 1224 p.m. Everything is free. The only cost is learning. You just got to learn.

Let me thank Dr. Sabrina. Let me thank Mr. Lee Roy Butler. Thank you so much. Thank you for having us. I appreciate you. What a great conversation. We love this platform. I appreciate you. You're listening to Community Voice. We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. Hi y'all. We're here with Mr. Debo. I got a question for you, man. What's up, man? What's your top five go-to blues songs?

Hmm. Well, I know how to party, you know, make the party move. So I would certainly start out with some male waiters with hole in the wall. That would be my number one. I go to number two with King George and say, girl, you got it. And then, uh, nah, just do Willie Clayton. It ain't fast, but it's one of them that get you going. Of course, lose my cool would be number three for me. Number four, love of mine by Buddy Ace. And then number five, it ain't no party by Willie. See, those would be my top five. All right, y'all, we here with DJ Clark Kent.

You fool. And I got a question for you, man. What's up, bro? What's your top five go-to blue songs? My top five go-to blue song would be O.B. Blue Cannon. Talking about Face Down, Chimica Joaquel, Grown Man, featuring King George. And then we got Hate On Me by Frank Johnson, which is one of my good ones. Someone else is Stepping In by ZZ Hill and Mr. Sexy Man.

Finally Tiger Travis. Now who you with? We have been in business here for 14 years. I believe the rivers are the cleanest they've ever been. We get lots of people on our rivers and canoes, kayaks, stand-up paddle boards. People are happy to be here and it's growing every year.

We love our partnership with Violia. They help the kayak company grow. I definitely don't think we would be here without Violia and MMSD. Clean water is essential. When we wanted to expand access for folks in need of bikes, we turned to Violia. The result, the new Violia EcoPass program that has dramatically increased access to our bike share system for folks all throughout our community. Connecting students to schools,

People looking for work with employers, the community with parks. Thanks to our partnership with Veolia, Bubbler Bikes is serving more people than ever before. Those are Milwaukee values. I'm Jim Playset. I'm the executive director of the Historic Third Ward Association and also a resident of the Historic Third Ward. Somebody's got to manage this, right, and care for our waterways and care for the treatment of our waterways.

We couldn't do it without MMSD and Veolia. They've just been a great partner as long as I've known them. It's just been an amazing recovery for this body of water. MMSD and Veolia have been a big part of getting that clean and enjoyable for all of us.

I was a manager leader, right? And if the house is on fire, I shouldn't have that look on my face like the house is on fire. Yeah, you know, I need to be calm, even though on the inside, I'm going, you know, it's like, no, no, no, try to, try to walk, walk calmly, you know, even though the world is ending. Are you ever seen song failure with George?

George Costanza, he was at the party and he started smelling smoke. He started pushing them little kids to, oh, people doubt. He was like, it's a fire, it's a fire. So that's how you be in the inside, like the outside, you just come. On the inside, you just care. Damn, we had a situation. Those, those, my former county employee co-workers who listened to me know that we had something called the food stamp riots in 2008.

And so we had, I mean, it was literally thousands of people trying to converge, get in the door and outside, right? And let me say, the folks weren't tripping. You know, they weren't tripping at all, but one lady walks by. Now, we're trying to figure out how we're gonna get these people in. We need to do the staging. How do we move them? All of that, right? She walked by. It's gonna be a riot!

Thank you very much for you know first of all identifying the obvious and this is what we're trying to avoid so I think sometimes You ever see somebody go and break up the fight and they louder than the people in the fight You know they're making more noise getting over there breaking up the fight which just takes us to To a different level so man

Well, boy, I got two minutes. Let me read some of the comments. I said that a long time ago about Sam. Talk about Sam Cassell. Wow, man, just the talent. Yeah. On that team, on that intermentality. Because he's talking, what was my guy, Ward. They worked. Charlie Ward. Charlie Ward. I forgot Charlie Ward, man. That Florida State. Hey, but Miami was hard. They was coming, right? That's Mike Irving and all those folks. And then Florida.

Yeah. Right? Emmett Smith. Right. Oh, thank you. Good eyes. Baseball caskets. I have not seen baseball caskets. Thank you. Good eyes. Appreciate you, Debo. Man. See, baseball caskets. Let me shout them out. See, but when I see stuff like that, man, I get weary, man. It's like, like the widest truck keeps driving by.

Why is trucking Zara by the window? They were looking slow down right when they get to the corner. I told you the question. See you soon.

I was like, what a mortician asking about your health. Why are you asking? How do you do it? How do you do it for a potential business? Speaking of a mortician, you know who the scariest mortician is? That guy that playing a fishman playing in a Hulu. Oh, yeah. He was the scariest potential dog. Yeah. He's not.

Right, and he on the, on the carriage. Yeah, he's the scariest man I've ever seen. And then look over his glasses when he had that come to Jesus moment when he walked up the stairs. He did look scary. And I don't want him to put him out. But if y'all watch The Monsters.

But Mr. Gaetman and their funeral jokes, man, were just incredible. Some of those funeral jokes they took, because you know, Herman Munster worked at Gaetman's funeral home, right? But I just thought Gaetman was really, it's like Pearly Gates, Mr. Gaetman. But the guy who played Mr. Gaetman was John Karadine. John Karadine was a great character actor in the 40s, 50s, and then you might know his son, David Karadine.

Kung Fu. Oh, well. That's his son. That's his son. Yeah, there was a bunch of Karen, Karen and brothers who acted, but yeah, Mr. Gaitman was just... Mr. Gaitman was just... Mr. Gaitman was just... Mr. Gaitman was just... Mr. Gaitman was just... Mr. Gaitman was just... Mr. Gaitman was just... Mr. Gaitman was just... Mr. Gaitman was just... Mr. Gaitman was just... Mr. Gaitman was just... Mr. Gaitman was just... Mr. Gaitman was just... Mr. Gaitman was just... Mr. Gaitman was just... Mr. Gaitman was just... Mr. Gaitman was just... Mr. Gaitman was just... Mr. Gaitman was just... Mr. Gaitman was just... Mr. Gaitman was just... Mr. Gaitman was just... Mr. Gaitman was just... Mr. Gaitman

Ain't that been a few I got got a few to hold right up the street here, but we don't know where you going Oh man. Hey y'all you listen to community voice I told you it's gonna be the shortest segment. We're gonna take a quick break Alright y'all we here with mr. Debo I Got a question for you man. What's up, man? What's your top five go-to blue songs?

Hmm. Well, I know how to party, you know, make the party move. So I would certainly start out with some male waiters with hole in the wall. That would be my number one. I go to number two with King George and say, girl, you got it. And then, uh, no, just do Willie Clayton. It ain't fast, but it's one of them that get you going, of course. Lose my cool would be number three for me. Number four, love of mine by Buddy Ace. And then number five, it ain't no party by Willie. See, those would be my top five. All right, y'all, we here with DJ Clark Kent.

You fool. And I got a question for you, man. What's up, bro? What's your top five go to blue songs? My top five go to blue. So it would be Obi-Wan Kenner. I'm about face down. Chimica Joquel. Grown man. Featuring King George. And then we got hate on me by Frank Johnson, which is one of my good ones. Someone else is stepping in by ZZ Hill. And Mr. Sexy Man.

We have been in business here for 14 years. I believe the rivers are the cleanest they've ever been. We get lots of people on our rivers and canoes, kayaks, stand-up paddleboards. People are happy to be here and it's growing every year. We love our partnership with Violia. They help the kayak company grow.

I definitely don't think we would be here without Veolia and MMSD. Clean water is essential. When we wanted to expand access for folks in need of bikes, we turned to Veolia. The result of the new Veolia EcoPass program that has dramatically increased access to our bike share system for folks all throughout our community. Connecting students to schools, people looking for work with employers, the community with parks,

Thanks to our partnership with Violia, Bubbler Bikes is serving more people than ever before. Those are Milwaukee values. I'm Jim Playset. I'm the executive director of the Historic Third Ward Association and also a resident of the Historic Third Ward. Somebody's got to manage this, right, and care for our waterways and care for the treatment of our waterways. We couldn't do it without MMSD and Violia. They've just been a great partner as long as I've known them.

It's just been an amazing recovery for this body of water. MMSD and Ville have been a big part of getting that clean and enjoyable for all of us. With your host, Keith Parrist. You know, we post clips, you know, little snippets from the program. So why was the clips yesterday on me lying at my baptism?

How about that you could swim? That's the one you pick, right? And people go, I always wondered about that dude, you know, in between that and, you know, the whole difficult situation I had in kindergarten.

The kid flunked kindergarten and he lied in his baptism. And people wonder why he's not a success in life. OK, you start off wrong, right? But hey, y'all, the phone line's open 414-452-50. 414-444-452-50. Hey, Clark, can you pull up the chat? Let's see what people are saying in the chat. Let's see. Keith, get a wife. No, he didn't.

Let's see. Thank you for sharing your testimony. Leroy Butler. What a blessing. Our students need to hear this. Yep. Thank you for sharing. Good to see this. Hey, uh, brashad, I think that's a misspelling. You understand.

You know a lot of it is when people going in the chat they're using their phone, right? They're speaking to the phone And phone that the the technology has not picked up the nuance of African-american speech patterns You write about that cuz anytime you be on the phone like a bill, okay, I said

63 sit you said 53 I just gave up and hung up don't have me don't have me come through this phone I'm getting all frustrated they're not even acknowledging that I answered right so I said bump this you know forget this man that that is AI

You know, my wife is insistent upon talking to a real human being and I'm with her. Me too. Now, somebody's human beings. Right? You know, you going like, well, if you're struggling with English, why are you doing customer service with English speaking folks, right? Yeah, so you call in and be like, ah, ah, ah. Yeah, that was, you know, that's...

But I hate to say that we're broken record on this, but man, that's a great part of my job. The people that I get to have conversations with, my wife has suggested that I write a book. And I was trying to figure out what would I talk about? The people you had conversations with. There you go. There you go. The conversations that I've had just

And I'm pretty good at remembering the conversations that I have with people, you know, sometimes people, and a lot of times, not sometimes, a lot of times people say really profound things and you go like, oh man, I appreciate that. But just, and then, you know, I attach those things to, on my birthday, I attach those things to people. So on my birthday, and I don't, and just so people know, I guess I'll just be 100% on this.

I do not go on Facebook to wish people happy birthdays. If I'm gonna wish you a happy birthday, you'll receive a text from me, right, or a phone call. But, so let me shout out, I can do it on a year though. Let me shout out my classmate from Mount St. Mary's, Mr. Ron Joyner. He had a birthday earlier. Today is my sister's, and I hate to say sister-in-law, they're doing sister-in-love.

But my sister-in-law today is Maidon Davis, Clark's birthday, happy birthday to Maidon. Let me, you know, and I know how it has been, man, when you all, you know, you go into, you know, you got a relationship and you go into people's families. And some people are really embracing when you get into family, like from day one, they're really embracing. Others not so much.

Well, you know my sister made on I mean from day one. She's just been really It really made me feel like a part of the family always makes me feel like a part of the family You know call me brother. So I was very fortunate. I married into a great family Some people Oh You got the bad one

Well, I did. My sister did. All these good people, you got Keith. How did that happen? How did that happen? I would have access. My mama was asking about you. I said, oh, really? He said, yeah. What happened to that nice young man, Keith? And she turned to her mama and said, ain't nothing nice about Keith.

Keep know how to do any Haskell, right?

Thank you. Good morning. This is who? Oh, hey, and then how are you?

I love them every single day. Always and forever was a song that we sing to each other so much. By Heatwave, I love that song. Always and forever? By Heatwave, yes. We sing to each other, as a matter of fact.

He wanted to put on his two-zone fit. Yeah, he put it in the new. I got it on his watch. All kinds of stuff. You know, we just love heat waves. And yeah, Keith, this is going to be, you know, what am I going to do in a while? I don't know. But I'm looking so busy. And I have a great family that I married into as well. They take me to dinner. They keep me busy.

I'm keeping busy, you know, and I just wanted to, I love you guys too. You guys are a great station. I'm keeping the community abreast and I'm out here making sure I get the speed bumps up, getting on with all the persons about the potholes, getting on them. Let me know that, you know, y'all need to come out here at 06 and do what you gotta do.

Help us. I mean, we don't have potholes no more. We have what do you call those? Singles. Singles, yeah. Yes, we have on Mel Rainer and on my block alone. It is so bad. Oh my God. So, but that's not what I call for, but I'm just trying to tell you that I love you guys and thank you for just listening to me. Yeah, I love that little lie forever and a day.

Yeah, okay. I won't do that.

I could do because that's kind of dude. Go make her cry, man. She love that song, right? Hey, hey, hey, right. I was going to put it as part of his repertoire. So, you know, all right. All right. And I love, I told Rada, I love the way you write. Oh, you can laugh. Okay, God bless you. Have a wonderful week. Okay, bye bye.

Yeah, you should do always forever I am gonna add that to my oh you probably did do it at a wet right I did I did I did and boy I don't I don't know if it was forever, but it was always I don't know if it was forever

But it was always. Hey, Clark. You know he sang the song when he was throwing the panties at the wedding. Always and forever. That boy had a teddy moment. They threw in teddy bears. Oh, man. You know, I used to watch the gunk.

Baseball caskets again. I told you. I told you. God is trying to tell you something. What's up? Health families are in the lives of those they love. All right, Keith. All right. Baseball caskets. I should become a, now I don't want to be a pain. Yeah. It's possible for a casket company. No, but you know what? It's not really to, you know, Debbie down in the mood, but I was watching, I just saw this story of a young man that worked at a funeral home, right? And

What he did was he got in the casket and made fun of, you know, being in the casket. He took pictures and all that other stuff. Two weeks later, he was shot and killed. So I'm not reacting to the kid. I'm reacting to. But you know what? Sometimes man.

I mean, the we can play with things and kind of make fun. No, seriously. You're being superstitious, man. I'm not, man. I'm not being superstitious, man. You're being superstitious. Come on, man. I mean, no, seriously, man, the we can, I mean, since we know energy is real. I told this joke and then I get hit by a car two weeks later. Come on, man. I got hit by the car. That was a separate incident from the joke. No, but what I'm saying is, man, sometimes, man, the we can, you know, the we can create that, man. Like, he was...

What was wrong with him? Playing in the casket. Well, first of all, anybody in their right mind. Okay. Middle health challenges. Anybody in their right mind is not going to get in the casket. I know. Hey, I'm telling you. I ain't going to get it. Let me see how I'm going to look. Close my eyes. Yeah. No, like he was he was playing and then he was laughing.

He had the bottles in the casket with him, taking the pictures, laughing. And that's exactly how he was buried. Did anyone associated with that casket kill him? I don't know. I didn't do investigation. It was sad. However, who did he offend? I don't know. What, would they use the casket and the family found out that he was in there playing in the casket so they didn't want it?

All I know is you should have brought a little bit more. You should have brought a little bit more. No, no, no. All I know is that this guy, he played in the casket. He was taking pictures. He was making fun. It could have been making fun of the dead. Hey, Clark, let's do, let's do logic. I told you, I told you I did logic twice. Let's do logic. So, Clark, I lied in my baptism.

I drown 20 years later. I mean, God gave you time to get that thing right. I mean, associate it. I mean, oh, call a welcome to the program. You're trying to get that thing right, man. Call a welcome to the program. What's going on, brother? What's happening, bro? You talking about cask, because I'm going to tell you this one. I know you live when you've seen John Edge and the casket on the up.

We're burning much in hell. So many. So many. So many. Oh man. Any chance you get to throw John Legend at me, you're going to do it, right? Everybody laugh because we already know. I knew I couldn't wait to see that Negro in the cafe. And you know what? He didn't have a speaking part in that.

Have you watched Oscar Shaw? No. It's a movie called Oscar Shaw. Have you seen Dynamite? Dynamite. Dynamite. Not Dynamite, but it's a cartoon. Black Dynamite. That's the same dude. Yeah, that's the same dude.

And you got a movie called Oscar Star. We played like 10 minutes in that movie, man. They'd be killing folks so fast in movies, boy. You can't even, they never played a part.

Because I swear, he always killed him right out. He always put the black seat over the chair, man. He always killed you, dude. Always, man. He always killed you. Don't put that evil on me. Don't you do that. Don't you put that evil on me? Because what you saying? Because I'm killing right out. I'm going to die?

Come on, man

I finally watched it. Oh my, I finally watched it. Oh my god. No, I watched the movie but I kind of because I watched it, you know, it was on VHS. So, when I got that part of it, I just got past it. I finally watched when she broke his legs. Yeah.

Let's see, maybe you guys are air traffic control for Batesville Steven wonder was thinking of Jimmy when he wrote superstition excellent point

Kurt Russell in escape from L.A. when he was snake and the whole line everybody said I thought I heard you were dead Okay, I'm gonna ask you the question. What was Kurt Russell's best movie? The movie he played with Andy Garcia

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Without that movie, there will be no Mortal Kombat. Okay. Was Jackie Chan and who was the right? It wouldn't have been a Mortal Kombat without that move. All right. That's it. It wouldn't be no waiting. It won't be no finishing. It won't be none of them Chinese people flipping around. It won't be none of that.

and get how a month more of combat still going on right now. Okay, all right, bro. Let me get this next one. All right now. Hey, matter of fact, did you say about Clay Thompson going to Miami? Man, he's a bomb. He's a bomb. I didn't know, I didn't know that Paul George went to the Celtics. He got traded.

No, but how did you not know that it was part of the trade package? I didn't know he was part of the trade. No You know what we can do we can we oh this is perfect

Who killed JR? Hey, what's up, Chief? George? I just want to clear up. I wasn't saying the owner of the clipper was with prostitutes. I was saying he was racist. Oh, yeah, he was.

Yeah, but the only, yeah, but the guy who... But Keith, when you really think about it, what he was doing, he was paying for it, right? Yeah, he took care of it. Right, so he was paying for it. And I think that that's why he was having the reaction he was reacting to when, you know, she was in pictures with Mookie Betts. What was it? Is it Mookie? What's Betts? And... I don't know. I watched the movie about their team, about their history.

And I can't remember who it was. I don't know if it was Magic. It was Magic. It was one of them, but I think it was, it was Mookie Betts with the Dodgers. He would call them the Ember, right? I don't know if you're hanging on with the Ember for a while. Actually, that was pretty good. It gave some real insight into what Doc Rivers was going through at that point, which I thought was amazing that I think his ex was at his Hall of Fame induction. Okay, okay. All right, man. That was the other thing. That was a good interview you had.

Thank you. I don't know. I think you guys know enough about my business. So I ain't got to keep putting my business on the air. But is she is she taking clients? I don't know. You could call. I don't know. Did you take your number? No, I don't have it. But what you can call is the what is it? That's the same. Is it the what is it? St. Michael's Clinic? You go through ascension and it's the St. Michael's Clinic, whatever that clinic is. Accenture. Yep. It's the St. Michael's Clinic. All right.

Okay. I appreciate you. Call her. Welcome to the program. A pink concrete. Wow. It's a female driver too. So maybe that's her company. Who killed JR? Call her. Welcome to the program. Good morning. Hey, what's up, brothers? How you doing, man? How y'all doing? Good. Hey, you know what? You talking about, um,

the caskets and freeway trucks the man you remember back in the day when you watched them restaurant movies where they had the vultures flying in the air when you're trying to walk against the water. They had to be horrible. He's waiting for you to fall.

coming right out there to take a nip out of you. Hey, man, come join me, man. We got country buffet over here. You know what? I didn't know how big them things was when I went to Texas. Yeah, vultures are big. Man, that was my first time when I was in Texas seeing vultures, you know, that big. I was like, man, what type of bird is that? They said that's the one to be eaten. Yeah, man. Yeah, they full of it. So, you know, they used. I didn't know they was that big. Yeah. You're right about that. All right, man.

Yeah started off depressed and now I'm depressed again I mean it's better than the casket truck Now you know old folks say if you if you if you if you if you if you live right? Oh, you got work. Oh, yeah, well, you know

The old folks of the day used to say that, yeah, if you live right heaven is your home. My mama said yesterday, she said, you know, I cannot believe I've gotten this whole 92 years. 92. And it's crazy because it happens so fast, man. It feels like that happened so fast yesterday. And then it's like, wow. And then, you know, we all go through these stages in our lives, right? Where, you know,

you know, my mother took care of us when we were babies. And now, you know, my sister takes care of my mom, the circle of life. But when she said that, I was like, yeah, it's a real blessing. I think it's a blessing. Some people say it's a curse because she's not in, there's some people later in life and they're dealing with a whole lot of health difficulties. And that's not the situation she's in. So, and that way it is.

It is it's a blessing. So speaking of blessings Is it out of order to get up at a funeral and say it's a blessing to be in the land of the living? No, no, okay No, cuz I I always thought that that was kind of out of order to the family Everybody ain't reminded of when they look at that I know I get that but I mean, but you think

some things should be said at that particular moment. I think you're acknowledging that. And again, I'm sitting there grieving, but the fact that I'm grieving means I'm in the land of the living. Yeah, but ain't that kind of rubbing it in the family phase? No, the family is not. Remember that your loved one is dead and here I am in the land of the living. They ain't dead.

You go find the loopholes. A loophole is obvious. They ain't dead. I ain't dead. I mean, you know, I mean, that, that, that's, that's, but don't you think, man, that they won't, they love one here. So to actually say at the funeral, thank God for being in the land of the living or, or, you know, thank God, man, that he spared me because, you know, it could have been me, all of that stuff. No shoes. Right. And no clothes.

So, you know, how people get up and say that type of stuff. I love that song. I love, thank you, Lord. But that line, which I love, you know, it was something that Pastor McVicker said at Marcy's funeral. He said, I'm going to push back on this idea that the Lord did this. And I think that what people are saying is that it's just a cycle of life.

And we're putting things on God. Look, God controls everything. But that's just maybe our concept of God. But I understood what he was saying, because we have a tendency with human beings to try to make sense out of things, try to get to the why. And you can

Sometimes never give a satisfactory answer to the why why this happened, you know, why does this happen to Jermaine? He was such a good come on man. Why you keep throwing me under the tires man use Clark Clark is in the room DJ this dude

is bogus to speak at your ex's funeral. First of all, why are you speaking at your ex's funeral? At some point, why are you even at your ex's funeral and you don't have kids together? And start off the speech with, ain't God good? You talking about a riot? You talking about a riot? Because he dead.

Let me thank Dr. Sabrina Ali. Let me thank Paula Famer, Mr. Leroy Butler. Great, great, great conversation. Clark, thank you, sir. Who you with? Apostle. Thank you. Well, thank God I'm in Atlanta. Who you with? Did he miss man? He was an E. Did he miss man rehearsal? Yeah. Who you with? Yeah, that's E.

Appreciate you. Appreciate you. Appreciate you guys. Hey y'all and callers, listeners, we thank you. The Good Lord, Will and Creek. Don't rise. Hope to talk to everybody tomorrow and as always, go from this place and peace.

Good morning.

Welcome to Community Voice.

I'm your host, Keith Pearce.

I want to thank everybody for joining us this morning.

Good morning to Facebook.

Good morning to YouTube.

What up, Clark?

Who you with?

I'm good, man.

How are you?

I'm doing

fine.

I'm doing

fine.

Apostle.

Yes, I

got a text yesterday and they referred to you in the text.

Apostle.

He did give you an A. He was trying to catch up with you.

So take the A away.

You got his full attention.

Apostle.

Apostle.

Let's see.

All right.

Hey, y'all.

The chat room is open.

Let's see here.

I'm reading from Michelle's program.

The Associated Press just reported Supreme Court sides with Trump administration or mail voting restrictions ahead of the midterms.

Well, they didn't quite side with them.

Well, what they did was they didn't want to decide on it.

They sent it back to the appellate level.

Well, well, the question that I was going to ask you, because I saw it come across the screen and said that the Supreme Court on with this mail in, but in order for you to qualify for a mail in ballot, you have to be on this list.

So who decides who's on the list?

Well, it's the voting rolls.

And they

want access to the voting rolls.

Look, if we didn't learn anything from 2020, even though you might have a mail-in ballot, if you can drop it off at one of the drop boxes, it's going to get there.

Because he had already said that they were going to have the mail US postal actually not get priorities to ballots.

In the past, they did.

So, and then the hypocrisy of all of this is Trump votes by mail.

And so I guess the exception is that you're the president of the United States.

But I think the other issue now, I'm not a constitutional lawyer, but one of the issues is that states can run or states have.

jurisdiction over their own elections.

And the only time that the federal government steps in is when the Constitution was violated.

So, you know, we had where they had to step in every voting rights cases in the South in the 50s and the 60s.

Congress then went in and further codified it by doing the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

Part of that Voting Rights Act of 1965.

was something called pre-clearance.

Pre-clearance said that there were seven states in the South who, if they changed their election procedures, would have to get pre-clearance from the Justice Department.

There was a case called Shelby versus... What's my guy's name?

Holder.

and where the Supreme Court basically said, hey, you know what?

They're not discriminating anymore.

So that little section, I don't know if it's section six in there, that whole pre-clearance, it's not necessary now.

And what did those Southern states did?

They went in and gerrymandered.

They gerrymandered and they're still gerrymandering.

So this Supreme Court, and that's the crazy thing because everybody talks about Donald Trump and all this stuff.

But basically, those three very conservative Supreme Court justices were appointed by Donald Trump.

And so you have a 63 majority in terms of conservative and how they view the Constitution.

And I find it amazing that in some instances, like we don't expand the right to privacy.

There's nothing in the Constitution.

The original fathers had no concept of this.

And then you turn around and you expand the second amendment that is gun rights To now we're dealing with the consequences of having more guns in America than American people So, you know it and there's part of me that's sitting up wondering should there be a revolution Because this Supreme Court

as it's composed now is not really about the people.

It's really about the elite.

It's about corporate interests.

We talk a lot about some of the so-called civil rights cases, but there's also workers' rights.

It's also questions about deregulation when it comes to the environment where these folks are very conservative.

And you know, I bet you, Bob, I mean, the fact that it was, was it five to four?

This whole birthright citizenship tells you something where every Supreme Court when that has been passed has almost been unanimous that birthright citizenship how it has it was constructed in the Constitution in terms of 13 14th and 15th Amendment and citizenship You know, so I

And it's always been, if you're a student of history, you would notice that there's always this backlash.

Some people describe it as white lash to any progress that particularly people of color make in this country, right?

The Tea Party, the real conservative shift had everything to do for a lot of people with Barack Obama being elected president of the United States.

That's not supposed to happen, right?

And so then you get the tea party.

And the thing,

and I

said all the time, you know, there are people out there, white folks, who just have a real problem with being called racist when they're being racist.

You know, you go to a Klan meeting and go, you know, y'all racist.

No, we're not.

Oh, yes, you

are.

Yes,

you

are.

And then when people talk about the Klan, it wasn't just blacks, it wasn't just Hispanics, it was Catholics and Jews, right?

So yeah, you're racist.

I mean, there's no getting around it.

When people get up, when they were accusing Donald Trump of being racist, and he is, he had a black girlfriend.

So did Thomas Jefferson.

What's your point?

You know, I mean, it's maddening.

It is just maddening, man.

I'm trying not to lose my mind.

Up in here, up in here.

I'm

gonna make me act the fool.

Up in here,

up in here.

Call the welcome to the program.

Yeah, good morning.

First, you know, I agree with you 100%, but so funny is a lot of those people who are racists, they're race traders.

because you married a very joe, but you fantasizing and cheating on your wife or the black woman.

But this is how you know people are very pathetic.

How can you have white skin, white options, white privilege, and you still worried about somebody that's black?

You gotta be real mediocre.

And then you gotta remember this too.

A lot of the Republican men,

They're angry with the women, because the women don't want them.

And I want to ask you a question, Mr. Parris.

Have you ever noticed when it comes to these Republican men, and they get very, very comfortable?

They always want somebody to touch on, they know no square, because they won't rape a woman, because her innocence is already took in her inside for too deep.

But when they get real, real comfortable, have you ever noticed how they always want a black man to touch on a no-no square?

And they don't even have a lot.

You at all.

Whoa, it had not been my experience.

I guess it happens.

You know, and I know you've been metaphorical.

I don't know,

man.

Well, I'm just asking because you remember

and DC are the real hardcore Republicans have, you know, they got exposed because, you know, they know more about the homosexuals than the homosexuals.

Well, they was down here in DC, messing around with chicks with big old sticks.

So my thing is how can y'all be so big prime in but now y'all want people to touch on your no-nose square and you won't bother with that wig like Dolly Parton with the breasts on your back.

Because you know back in the day the pimps and the pussies used to dope date.

You know and you know when it comes to dope they do everything.

You go down in them basements everybody at all five, three, five clubs they all play with each other with plastic dildos.

Have a shot this morning.

Bye-bye.

Oh my god.

Wow.

What the hell?

Oh my god.

No way.

What's

the word?

That's a conversation about the NFL only.

Got caught with the prostitution

Mr. Craft It's funny at Tom Brady's roast that came up and Tom Brady became very defensive all the offensive stuff people were saying that was the one and he Walked up to the dude and said don't say that blank again, right?

And I guess one of the owners of the 49ers just got caught up in prostitution in Ohio

Yeah,

that's

what I think I'm

talking about.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what that?

Prostitution.

Man, your egg got caught in the rain.

Oh, all right.

All right.

I don't know if that changed my mood, but.

In the movie, I don't know if it was Ted or Ted too.

He said, no, it is.

It's dudes with breasts.

I

mentioned

that documentary I saw here, right?

It's called Soul Food.

And let's see, hold on.

We got a call?

No.

Documentary.

I just watched this.

How do you spell gospel?

G-O-S-P-L-E.

Talk about my tutorial.

I

smell Bible Documentary Netflix here it is There it is.

Hold on.

Let me do all No, it's soul food and it's

and they and I mentioned it, but they had Pastor Valerie Daniels

Carter yeah, Joe Nathaniel, I don't know if they had Anthony McGay, but it was local No, it's like Netflix.

Oh Netflix.

Yeah

Yeah, I know you didn't talk about it cuz I didn't

you the Netflix are prime Hey, you know what I'm getting addicted to is This movie I mean this movie this series

Yeah, but you gotta

be careful too because if you don't verify that stuff

Yeah, we need to verify that give me the

source

Yeah,

I didn't hear nothing about the

clippers.

I mean, no, I ain't saying that it ain't possible.

You know, with all this stuff going on or anything is possible, but.

Well,

boy, this is our start of Tuesday off.

Wow.

Yeah.

Like I said, the greatest sentence discovery, right?

I'm sure it was happening more and then when people get caught.

So anyway, well, that's it.

Oh man, the links lost to the Valkyrie last night.

Yeah, they lost to the Valkyrie last night.

That was interesting.

But Williams didn't play for the links.

So call a woman to the program.

Good morning.

There's one Keith.

How you doing?

I'm all right.

What's

happening?

I dropped some candy on Saturday for you guys.

Did you get it?

Nope.

Where the candy at?

Can you drop some edibles off?

We didn't get them.

Clark must eat it all.

You ate the edibles, man.

Oh, Clark.

Clark, you ain't sharing.

You know, sharing

is caring.

What are you over this smile big

grin on his face?

The problem with edibles is that you know it takes about an hour for them to kick in.

It depends.

Not that I know I just read about it.

It depends.

You know I've never had an edible so I couldn't even but I've read that that's the thing that it takes it's a delayed response.

No sir.

Okay,

and tell me, my coffee's been cold for the longest now.

You guys are warming up.

You don't want to unleash that dragon, please.

Please.

You're

going to hire

everybody blowing

on this

coffee I have.

You're going to

print T-shirts for you, Michelle.

Come on, man.

Don't do that to her, man.

Hey, you know what?

I'm going to put that on the cap the next time.

Keep my coffee hot or something.

Yes.

Okay.

Yes.

All right, brother, y'all have a good day, man.

All right, I'm gonna use that when I go out on date me somebody what's that like baby keep my coffee hot We could

let me

see how it

work.

Oh, let's see or Hey, baby, my coffee was cold till I

met you now

is even cold Well, cuz people drink iced coffee.

Yeah,

I don't understand but you know,

so it's not a it's not a

Is that really considered coffee?

Yeah.

Oh, is it?

It's just the temperature of it.

But

you know, I just drink black coffee.

I don't have any.

I remember having Cuban coffee.

Cuban?

It was really Cuban sugar.

It's so sweet

and strong, man.

But there's so much sugar.

Yeah, a lot of sugar, a lot of sugar.

Hey, y'all, you're listening to Community Voice.

And hey, this morning we have a very special guest that's going to be joining us at the bottom of the hour.

So keep it locked.

You listen to, again, Community Voice.

I'm your host, Keith Parris.

We're going to take a quick break.

We'll be right

back.

I got a question for you, man.

What's up, man?

What's your top five go-to blues songs?

Hmm.

Well, I know how to party, you know, make the party move.

So I would certainly start out with some male waiters with hole in the wall.

That would be my number one.

I go to number two with King George and say, girl, you got it.

And then, uh, nah, just do Willie Clayton.

It ain't fast, but it's one of them that get you going, of course, lose my cool would be number three for me.

Number four, love of mine by Buddy Ace.

And the number five, it ain't no party by Willie C. Those would be my top five.

All right, y'all, we here with DJ Clark Kent.

Who you with?

You fool.

And I got a question for you, man.

What's up, bro?

What's your top five go to blue songs?

My top five go to blue.

So it would be Obie Buchanan.

I'm about face down to Mika Joquiel.

Grown man, reaching King George.

And then we got hate on me by Frank Johnson, which is one of my good ones.

Someone else is stepping in by ZZ Hill and Mr. Sexy Man by Nellie Tiger Travis.

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All right, welcome back.

And I told you we'd have very special guest in the studio this morning.

She's back with us again, Dr. Sabrina Ali.

Hello, everybody.

How's it

going?

And post football Hall of Famer, Mr. LaRoy Butler.

Good morning.

Good morning.

I was asking every

single

day.

You say, live in the dream, right?

No, I was asking him was Sam Cassell at Florida State when he was at Florida.

Sam's my guy, man.

That was

the original point guard.

You know, going to Statue of Limitation has run out.

I can tell this story.

In a mural basketball, we had to have a couple of people.

We had to have Sam.

And we had to have a hub.

Deion Sanders, of course, can't start.

So he got that launch.

Dalsy.

That was my roommate.

And they was at the frat.

They was like, wait a minute, this guy looked familiar.

Because we couldn't sneak George McCloud on that because he was six nine.

Right.

But Sam looks like a guy, you know, got his backpack on.

And, you know, he's just.

And so they thought he was just a football player or a student or something.

And Sam put up 39 on them boys.

And then Charlie Ward was the other one.

because he

let all those guys play man.

So, shout out to Sam.

I love him.

He'll be the head coach real soon.

I think

he should be.

Yeah.

He had like one of the one of the great basketball IQ's.

I love it.

Sorry about that.

That's okay.

Sabrina's used

to that.

Well,

that has a lot to do with mental health

because

I want to win.

And I think the other piece is I just saw something this morning where they were saying that one out of four

former NFL players have talked about some of the issues they're dealing with.

And even we had an event two years ago and Antonio Freeman was

there.

My favorite red bone.

Is that right?

Don't tell Dorsey London, I said it.

I love for

you.

But his insight, but he was talking about, he says he's beginning to feel some of the

impact.

And football being a concussive sport,

you know, where you're, um, and it's a tough one, man, because people make that life decision.

Yes.

Um, I remember watching, um, documentary on the impact of injuries and they show Jim Otto and his post career and how he can merely get out of bed.

You know, but it, is it, you know, obviously you think it's worth it,

right?

Well, here's the thing about what's so important about what Sabrina is doing on Saturday.

is to let people know that mental health, we didn't say mental health back when I was in college, because I went to school to be a social science major, psychologists, and communication.

And it's different from when you forget your car keys, because anybody can do that, you know, because ultimately God made women smarter.

That's the fact.

It made God to protection.

And every guy to disagree with that, you need to call me.

But it's different from losing your car keys.

Where are they?

Or forget in your wife's middle name.

Or forget something that happened that particular day.

A good friend of mine and a former teammate, Brett Farr, had a touch of Parkinson.

And now Amon Green's dealing with some issues.

And the sad thing about it is, if we don't have events like Sabrina's having on Saturday, a lot of people probably wouldn't even talk about it.

Because you would talk to be a tough guy.

Don't say that you have deficiencies.

But I tell people all the time, and my mom was my hero because I didn't have a father growing up.

My mom did everything.

And then the inner city growing up in poverty things of that nature.

It was always you just dealt with you know, just you just deal with it But now with health care so expensive some people say I can't afford to go to the doctor So you look for events to where you can go for free That can talk to doctors or talk to somebody any kind of therapists Just like we're having today is therapy

Just like talking to your producer, how do you spell Sabrina's name?

In your mind, it's therapy because you're correcting something.

But we're all on the same team, though.

I struggle with spelling Ali.

Yeah.

Sabrina,

no

problem.

Dr. Ali is harder.

And Sabrina talks about it all the time when she comes on.

This idea is stigma.

And it's not just in the African-American community.

It's in the entire community in terms of people having one even beginning to have the conversation.

And that stigma is strong.

It's so strong.

Like we were said, thank you for sharing your story there.

My patient population is an underserved community.

And it's just so important because if we don't talk about it and we don't break that stigma, how are we going to make any change?

How are we

going to prioritize things?

And people just don't understand because when you are in that fight or flight mode and you're trying to go, go, go, poo food on the table, take care of your kids, do this, do that, you don't.

really realize how impactful that is.

Maybe you're a little bit more angry that day or like your patience is a little thinner because of all the things that you've been trying to push down, but it's hard.

It's hard to break that, but you only do it by having the conversation and having events.

Yeah, we started the program off with DMX.

I'm about to lose my mind.

Yes.

Up in here.

Yes.

And all these things are triggers, right?

And I'm watching shrinking.

I don't know if anybody's watching shrinking on Apple.

Oh, my God.

It was about psychotherapists and how psychotherapists are dealing with their own.

Life issues, but then trying to help people

with

their life issues, right?

Right and

I have a therapist to shout out to my therapist, you know,

and I had a friend She said a tongue-in-cheek, you know, and maybe it would be good to go and talk to someone I don't know what normal is Maybe sometimes I feel like young Frankenstein, you know abby normal, you know like your brain and but

It's societal.

I mean, it's your environment.

But then there's also things that are going on neurologically, right?

It's your emotional state, right?

And then you just talked about how we're in a go-go.

So why is this important then to have a basically mental wellness fair

for folks in the community?

Great question.

That's a great

question.

You want to chime in or you want me to know you please?

Okay, well, so I think for a couple different reasons one is for me I being community medicine director with the Ascension Family Health Care Center.

I I think it's important for doctors and all doctors but specifically even more so primary care doctors to be out there in the community So that's part of it.

So then people can understand that

Your doctor is human available, you know, you see them outside and Immersed into the community and that we care so I think that's part of having these events too is making sure that you understand that you have a partner that you can trust in your health

care team

and I know there's a lot of

distrust in the health care community and lots of different things spreading around about the health care community and lots of confrontations going back and politically I'm not going to go into that but so that's part of it's making sure that you know that you can go and talk to people to your health care doctor about these things because

uh you need to be able to distinguish between mental health uh in its core anxiety depression etc etc versus other things which can also affect your mental health that maybe you have and it's making you anxious like abnormal thyroid or um you know being super anemic there's many different things that contribute to your mental health so that's part of it and then the other part is um just

Building a community, you know building a community around it again breaking that stigma partnering with all the awesome organizations that I'll shout out later To teach because it's not only therapy.

You need multiple tools.

You need our therapy animal therapy yoga meditation Plant therapy.

We have a roma therapy all the things this year.

I'm really excited

but get back to something where you talked about

How important, then, is it for my primary physician to even ask me that question?

How am I doing?

Extraordinarily important.

I mean, I shot it from the rooftops.

I really do.

I think that if your primary care doctor is not asking about your mental health, and I'm sorry to say, maybe find another primary care doctor.

100%.

Yes,

because...

Need to know that at first because everybody's not the same and you don't know what somebody went through That's why I'm writing a book now It's called locker room therapy Basically in the locker room We your brothers or your sisters and you don't get judged by What you talk about locker room because it never leaves a locker room

But what I would do, I would talk to somebody like Sabrina first.

And you can tell the guys who've had therapy because they're good listeners and they're good communicators.

But when Reggie White would speak, everybody would listen.

But we also want you to listen when Keith McKenzie spoke.

People that hear my voice may not know who he is, but he's just as important as Reggie.

No,

that

wasn't his brother.

They were twins.

You're correct about that.

They were twins, but that keeps wasn't part of the family.

Like

I've met some butlers before, but he had no kid to me until I want some food at the cookout.

But in that locker room, we just kind of, you just love each other.

And that's when you, how many times do you tell your best friend that you love them?

Guys, when you hear that, it makes you feel it lowers the anxiety.

I grew up with dyslexia.

I was a special needs kid, special education.

My teachers thought I was colorblind because every time they would show me something, I wouldn't just say it.

And my teacher spoke up for me.

And I love teachers.

I really do.

I think they're the smartest people in the world.

I mean, they're the ones that

really helped me become who I am today, and I got it for free.

And my teacher said, no, he's not colorblind.

He just can't spell or pronounce magenta.

So everybody laughed about it, but my teacher's like, sometimes we have to just sit back and wonder, what's going on with him to make him freeze up if it's something he don't know, instead of raising your hand and asking a question.

My teacher cured that.

If you don't know,

Raise your hand and That's the difference between a problem and a problem solver and that's why Everybody that comes is gonna get information on my book this Saturday from 12 to 4 at Villa Avenue Lockroom therapy is everything you need to succeed

in life because you're going to get judged outside of your home.

And your home is like your locker room.

Okay.

You know how your mom used to say, whatever I say in the house, don't be telling people.

She was right about that.

And your dad said, listen, what are you talking about now between me and you?

We create a mentally, a locker room, and then you leave and go play the game.

But you have to be mentally focused on something, the trauma of winning a Super Bowl and losing one.

You know, I was saying this Sunday,

that I appreciate ancestral intelligence, ancestral insight.

But some of those things like, you know, what goes in the homes, goes on in the home, stays in the home.

But sometimes you need to talk to somebody outside the home.

I know what my

mom was saying, like, you know, I'm spreading our business.

But I think that also gets to the point where, and you see this as a medical professional, people thinking you're being intrusive,

when you're trying to get to what it is that's causing, in this case, the pain, the trauma, the difficulty.

So how do we get people to basically understand certain things you might need to talk about outside of that environment?

I think it's communication.

I said it before, you probably tired of me saying that actually, but it's true.

That's what it is.

It's communication, multiple things.

I mean, 100%, knowing that you can go and talk to your medical professional, that you can go and talk to your therapist, and that stays private and confidential, which is important for folks to know.

So that you don't have to feel that weight on your shoulders, like, oh, if I tell,

and so and so this, that they'll be upset with me about this or grandma or mom or whoever.

And then you have that safe space to talk about everything that you're feeling kind of unload and walk through it and process whatever you went through.

But on the flip side too, that...

Discussion of like don't spread your business and stuff like that.

I think really is deep-seated in the fact that of that stigma that's in society Don't you dare tell this person because they'll think that our family's crazy or something, you

know

that speaks to that stigma and that we how everybody walks around and pretends that everything is sunshine and rainbows and butterflies all the time and my family is perfect and we don't have arguments and nobody loses, you know, has fights or freaks out or, you know, has suicidements or whatever, you know.

So as what happens,

football obviously is important in your life.

Yes.

And I hope I'm not, when I say gave you meaning in some ways, right?

They mean

meaning in some ways not your whole but for many people our Identity is tied into what we do.

Yes,

right?

What happens when you walk away from that?

Mm-hmm, right that thing that you know, you've been up here.

Yes

now You know is out here like I wanted to know how does Barack Obama after eight years of not driving go back to driving?

you know because you've been used to because you talked about the locker room right hundred percent yeah so how do you replicate that that that community of concern outside of that when we know for for a lot of ex-players it was doing what they do and do it well

yeah that's a good question Keith because you're still Barack Obama you're still

up there.

I never come down.

I ain't came down since I was nine.

Don't smoke or drink.

Because the thing, when people ask me, as we, we all came together, the six of us in this room, people say, how are you doing?

I say, every day is a vacation.

I got that from my grandma.

I said, grandma, what do you mean by that?

She said, because I would never let people know what bothers me.

They'll do it every day.

So in my mind, of course, I probably woke up four o'clock in the morning.

Sabrina, you don't have this problem.

Just men over 50.

They go to

the

bathroom.

And I hit my toe on the bed post.

That thing hurt.

So I wake my wife up.

It's to death do us part.

Why should you sleep over that snow?

And I just hit my toe.

Honey.

come see about me.

Her

people hurt.

She woke up and she said honey, gonna be all right.

I feel so good.

I float to the bathroom.

So that's so when I

it is

mentally.

So I don't let people know what's negative to me.

So when you retire and the reason why is a good question because when you

I mean, you make a lot of money, you're doing all these things in the community, and you have to retire.

Guys do go into depression because they think that they've lost the name on the back of the jersey.

And actually, you don't lose their name, you just lost the jersey.

You still have to go to schools, go to your community, or whatever you want to do, have a plan.

And my plan was to be the same person who I am today So I won't get there, but I took those classes back in Florida State because I wanted to be a we didn't say therapists back then they said you want to be a shrink No, I was like, what is that?

But the communication part of it is you're still the same person

because if you don't think you're the same person which you get in trouble they'll say former football player blah blah blah but when you do something good this guy did something good but in my mind I don't worry about the headline I worry about the story the headline gets people to look but what makes you click on it is you have to read the story so I tell people all the time that you're the same player

but you plan a different game.

And I think that helps.

I think we, you know, it's so many different things that happens.

You know, people deal with empty nest, right?

Yes.

Just the things, but the importance of getting information, first of all, and then back to that word we used earlier, I think this is a community responsibility that we take the stigma away.

Yep.

that

people were able to talk.

And so when they were able to be exposed to all these resources, where people were able to go in.

And the only reason why I didn't major in psychology was I took it my freshman year was hard.

And then in sophomore year, that line was so long.

It's like, you know, I'll get in the political science line.

It's a little bit shorter.

But, you know, being able to talk to people, I feel like sometimes we do therapy here.

Yeah, yeah, no, that's definitely a community discussion and advocating for folks.

You definitely are a big part of that plan because if if you don't talk about these in here too, you know, it's not only the events that's these conversations, but you also said something important like extrapolating the you know, even just anybody who is making big transitions in their life.

He said emptiness and you know transitioning from

you know, retiring, but not only in your field, but every retire me or retiring.

That's a big transition for folks, you know, they're working for a long time and then all of a sudden they're not and they're like, oh, what do I do?

And then also in that time too, a lot of folks struggle with

those mental health pieces because of that go go go that we talked about before a lot of times in our lives we're not really realizing it because we're so busy now we're retired we have all this time in our hands and now our mind is able to think and marinate and you know

we manage you know I mean you get through when you hear people manage look

People could care less.

I'm having a bad day if I'm providing them with service.

So then I have to supplant that.

But at some point, I keep burying it that's going to come up.

It's pet cemetery.

That cat's not going down.

So, you know, being able to do it, I think that that's why events like this is so important, where people get out and it's not like you're in a clinical environment.

You're in a community environment, which gets to the thing you talked about, that whole community care.

So what can people, well, first of all, time, date, place?

Yes, Wellness Wonderland at 2400 West Villard Avenue, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 5309.

And it has the Ascension Family Healthcare Center.

Do you want me to go into who's going to be there?

All right, cool.

Let's do that.

This is very important.

It is.

It is very important because we have amazing folks coming out.

I've been working really hard with all of these different organizations to put it together.

First, we'll shout out Leroy right here for coming on out.

I appreciate you for coming and talking about it and helping to make that stigma.

Then Anthem, who partners with Leroy and Rita, she does some amazing, amazing work in the community.

Lots of different.

She is.

I love her.

That's my boss.

I'm so happy that

I

found her.

I just started partnering with them in October, and then you came to clinic in November to do the mental health talk.

And they have been supporters ever since.

Every community event, everything just, hey, how can I help?

What can I do?

would just show it.

Rita just shows up and she's like, here, help.

Yeah, that's the one that mines in motion.

We have a beauty pageant winner, Leah.

We

love her.

Leah's been actually trying to help me speak Spanish because Rita won't help me.

So Leah's been trying to help me because I want to be bilingual because I want to do more.

speaking in engagements.

We have Pasquale who played professional baseball coming up from poverty and single family home home and he's one of my favorite principles in the world.

We have we have doctors, we have we have professional people in all these areas and it's an organization we've been helping with so I want to shout out Ascension for giving us a platform.

to even talk about it.

So it's going to be a lot of fun.

Yeah, no.

Mine in motion program was powerful.

I really thought it was amazing.

So I'm grateful for you guys.

That being said, yeah, Ascension, all the people at the clinic.

I mean, our medical assistants, front desk staff, resident doctor.

Even the security there is very nice.

Oh, the security, yeah!

He's actually coming out.

He just retired, but he still dedicates himself to our community.

He comes out and still volunteers every time for every one of my events.

He does not let me go home and I'm there alone.

He's like, no, I'm staying with you.

We'll move things, we'll put things back.

I mean, he's been in that community for 20 plus years and fantastic.