Exploring Skepticism and Democratic Socialism in Today’s Politics

Good morning. Welcome to Community Voice. I'm your host Keith Pearce. I want to thank everybody for joining us this morning. Hello, man. I can't do this other cheer. Good morning, Clark Kent. Oh, you're wet. I'm with you, bro. What's happening, Apostle? I know no horse today, man. Just keyboard and drums. You know, I heard.

bits and pieces of a program with Angela Harris, good job. I told her off here, don't ever run for political office because I think she's an uncompromising voice. And the one thing about politics is it begins to compromise your voice. I don't care who you are. You've got to moderate in order to get elected. And so sometimes you just need that voice crying out in the wilderness for justice and certainly justice.

in the area. A lot of people don't see education as a justice issue, but it really is. And so I appreciate that and the work she does. And I'm a hater. You know, when I first saw her, I used to be like, why don't you girl, why don't you go sit down? Sit down somewhere. Yeah, that's how I hate. But over the years, I can see, you know, what she was about.

So let me do this. Let me I was a Tyrone W was talking about study hall. Yeah, let me my experience when I was at Parkman study hall was Used for punishment. I know that other people study hall you'd have a Schedule, you know in your schedule you'd have study hall Dominican was different Dominican we were on a modular system and that modular system meant that

The day was broken into 20-minute segments. Depending on the class you took would be the combination of the segments. Bills rang every 20 minutes. When I first got there, that was tripping me out. All you heard was bells. Every 20 minutes, every 20 minutes, you hear the bells. That's why my junior year, the senior class prank was to steal the bells. One of the greatest senior pranks of all time. So now we don't have those bells, right?

And I don't know if y'all have ever heard of Pablo and Pablo where with the dog and stimulus with the dogs, stimulus, response, stimulus, response. So we just knew, you know, you look at the clock and you knew that if you had a lab that's 60 minutes, gym was 60 minutes, other classes were 40 minutes, you know, so you just knew how to move. Because I'm telling when I first got there and all I heard was those bells.

It's like, oh, man. But we didn't have study hall. We didn't have a science study hall. We had resource centers. So there was a math resource center, social studies resource center, English resource center, science resource center. That's a social study. And so that's where you would go. And then a lot of the learning material would be in those different resource centers, right? And you weren't assigned. It was up to you. Because what Dominican was preparing students for when you got to college.

And how you kind of move and then we were able to kind of come along my junior year senior year We were able to do certain electives like you get in college and what was the other thing we had? Oh religion went from

Religion went from it became mandatory was accredited class now because I was Protestant and and many of the black students out there were Protestant We could opt out a religion priority that my junior year senior year once it became a credit you had to take religion so This one so we're hearing that conversation very different

piece about Study Hall. I know maybe once or twice in the three years I was at Parkman, I got sent to Study Hall. But yeah, our resource centers were there. You go in and you do your work. And so a lot of times you could do a lot of your homework in school. And then there's a question about homework and whether or not homework is even beneficial. Homework is beneficial if I have to go home and do reading for a class.

Then I think but just to go home and do busy stuff now for young kids is also because you know kids are learning by rope repetition So, you know, you might go home and your work on certain things to kind of enhance but you know, there's been a debate about there's a lot of schools that don't even give homework, right and For whatever reasons but I didn't when I heard that whole discussion about study halls. I just remember my experience at at Dominican And I'd already you know

I was a user of libraries. I mean, that started for me when I was like six years old. So I had no problems going to the library, sit there, read, study. As a matter of fact, Clark, you remember the movie, Cornbread Early Me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jamal Wilkes and a young Lawrence Fishburne, the third.

Well, I actually, it was one of the few black books in the library at Dominican was a book called The Hog Butcher. And The Hog Butcher is by a guy named Ron Fair. And they used that book to do cornbread, earl, and meat. I read the book before they did the movie. I was like, oh, oh, so I want you hate when people say I read the book is better than the movie. Yeah, I read the book. It was better than the movie. So yeah, that that was what I heard that whole conversation about education.

Let me ask you, how come when I hear this a lot, the book is better than the movie? Why they'll never make the movie like the book then if you go away? Well, I think because a lot of times, you know, there's this creative licensing that people do, you know, like you making up dialogue because depending on the book and what's inclusive in the book. So I think that that's it, you know, because reading it is very different than how do you make it live action.

So I think a lot of times it's just so you keep the attention of the audience. You know, books can, they can kind of go on. I mean, like War and Peace, I don't know, close to a thousand pages, I think, in terms of reading that book. And I don't know how many people read it in Russian. So, anyway. Oh, here's the other thing. When I got off the program yesterday,

As I do normally I check in with my wife and she said that the She said boys amazing how your your your program can dissolve into nonsense But I had a response I said no that was probably a One of those great philosophical conversations that people have

And so I did mention a guy named Humes and boy the stuff I remember Let me pull it up. I remember from my philosophy class. I love philosophy man. I mean it was one of It was like one of the best classes I took in college after movies You know cuz movies was great man you all you have to do is just go watch movies. That was a that was a great class But

Remember I said I don't know if you guys remember here's the word so here's Wednesday's word Wednesday's word skepticism Skepticism that's Wednesday's word It started even before we get on the air when we were talking about who killed Michael Jackson There was some skeptics and skeptics then come up with conspiracy theories, right now that works

We doubt what we see or hear. And so then we then go into conjecture and we do conspiracy theories. And I said, oh yeah, that's like Hume's. Well, Hume, it is a guy named David Hume. He's one of the most famous thinkers in history and a perfect hit. Let's talk about the question I asked. Hume took the idea of Locke and Berkeley and he took it into this thing called radical skepticism.

So here's what. Hume's view on reality behind the door. Remember I said, does it exist beyond the door? The problem of habit. Hume argued that you cannot prove anything exists outside of your immediate senses. If you look at the door, you know it's there. If you turn your back, you assume that it's still there. And then he has this illusion of constancy.

You said your mind fills in the blanks based on habit and memory. You have no logical rational proof that the door or the world outside it continues to exist when you aren't looking at it. You just have a strong animal belief because it's always been there before. And then, self-illusion. Hume even argues that if you look inside your own mind, you don't find a permanent soul or self. You only find a bundle of constantly changing perceptions.

In short, Hume argued that human reason cannot prove the existence of an external world. You have to rely on blind faith and custom to get through the day.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and it really isn't. And so when you hear this whole idea skepticism, Rhonda and I were talking this morning and I was saying the Sunday school lesson was on Thomas and Thomas doubting, uh, the resurrection of Jesus. Thomas was a lot of people because if we don't see it, it don't exist. Right. It's in our immediate world when we were, when we were having a conversation back in 20 about, um, COVID.

And people would talk about, well, I didn't see it in my neighborhood. So in their minds, it didn't exist. Even though there was a different reality out there, that even though you didn't see it in your neighborhood, it was happening all around us. So there's always a certain, and I think the skepticism is healthy. I think that you should be able to question those things that you think or believe. It's kind of hard, though.

when, you know, to disprove a belief, right? I mean, people feel very strongly about those things that they believe in, which gets us to Stevie Wonder when he wrote the song, Superstition, I think the line, and then those things that we don't understand is superstition, right? So even one of the benefits of Be Healthy Be You is that you have

practitioners of medicine coming on and explaining how things work in a way that people can understand it. Because the overwhelming majority of us didn't go to medical school. We didn't go to nursing school. We didn't go to dental school, right? So, you know, all we can do is rely on what people tell us, right? Or do you say we're tessuses? That's right, we're tessuses.

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life!

I just thought that, uh, man, so it didn't have to be a cleanup. I was on point, uh, I had, I had, and I did cite the right person, uh, people like Locke and Berkeley. But again, I don't know why I took to philosophy, maybe because it was abstract thinking. And, uh, I could, I could always get with abstract concepts except algebra.

Algebra was the only abstract that I could I struggled with algebra man do it It made no sense to me at all man now. I have a better understanding of geometry now You know because of angles, right? If you if you're doing sports Let's say we were talking. I don't know who I was talking to yesterday. We were talking about DB's

But he was bad enough. Yeah Because algebra is is formulatic formulatic it is unknown. I mean it is And but you know what most most of our scientific development is based on algebra, you know people putting together formulas and I did now another

Course I really, really enjoyed the second time in college was logic. You know, how do we think logical thinking and this whole thing I'm doing a I'm preparing a message right now on the importance of reason and right reasoning. You know how important that is where where we can reason right as opposed to being emotional about a situation that there's

Okay, let's see zebra said because why are you hiding it man? Oh Okay, oh because you weren't raised with it with an abacus. No, but I mean I had obviously had a obviously I had a vivid imagination like I said I could I went when I got to But I got the philosophy where a lot of students struggled. I didn't you know, I mean it was just like oh yeah

Yeah, yeah, it made sense to me in terms of that. And even theology and being attracted to theology, the study of God, Theo means divine, right? Theo, the Greek, the study, those things were fascinating to me. Good morning, Barbara Smith. They were fascinating to me and maybe not that anyone cares.

My view of religion is what is the purpose of religion? What is the purpose of religion? What what and and then once we get into Defining what is the purpose of religion and then particularly your religion? I was speaking yesterday to a Palestinian brother. He's the garage guy that came out and We ended up talking for a whole hour

And I don't know if he was just buttering me up to sell me a new garage door But you know, we talked about Gaza we talked about the West Bank his folks are from the West Bank How they got to America right now, you know, he just said he just went in for his green card interview He thinks that America is the greatest country on the face of the earth which I kind of looked at him going like hmm some days

And then other days, it's like, hmm. But yeah, I mean, even when we get into the purpose of religion, and I'm not going to be specific, but if I ask you, brothers, what do you think the purpose of religion is? OK, thank you for that.

Four one four four four four four man. I appreciate your answers I mean just when you think about religion, what do you think the purposes? Well, but you're a practitioner of religion, right?

Okay, never thought about it just just showed up for it So you ask what is the purpose of relationship? Yeah for you. What do you think the purpose is? Hmm, all right, let me get the collar

Who was it, Keith? It was Johnny. Hey, John, you got two minutes. What's the purpose of religion? It wasn't my original thing, but you got me on that one. I think it's actually linguistic. It means re-linking, kind of something like that. No, what does religion mean to you? I can't like what I just said, but I think it means you're trying to connect with

that in a invisible thing like behind the chair you're talking behind the door how can we know and that was from my first question is how do you know when to draw along with that nurse very concrete versus there's a human behind the door it's kind of like that invisible that invisible something beyond time and space that a physicist would be talking about normally but we can't at our level like you and me without a very horrible

You describe it. I'm just like you. But how do we know from your nurse that you talk about very concrete versus David Hughes, which you talked earlier, which is, I think, the religious part. Am I making fun? Yeah, I think that, you know, the abstraction and our sense of someone said yesterday does our consciousness create our reality? All right. Appreciate you. Let me get this other color because I guess 9 30 call to the program. Oh, good morning. Good morning. I believe the purpose of religion is

you for heaven hell or to live forever on earth I'm gonna hang up and I can't wait to hear your Love you all

Zebra says that religion, I believe, gives shared community purpose of life and rules for good behavior. So he's saying that there is the mores that religion promotes. Again, she mentioned afterlife where what happens to us once we're dead.

Judaism says that either you're resurrected or you're dead Christianity and Christianity becomes a little problematic because Christianity really introduced the Our perception or of heaven and hell right that it was that web and Judaism it was life or death Heaven or hell is reward or punishment, right?

So it depends on how you look at that. People, yesterday I was listening to Senator Moreno dealing with his ex son-in-law who's been accused of abuse there in Ohio and they're trying to get him to step away as a congressman. And one of the things, he said that that was the seventh level of hell. Well, if anybody reads Dante, they know that Dante had all these levels of hell.

right? And he was saying that that was the highest level of hell in terms of his extended laws behavior. So the idea of religion, I think religion is the shared thing. Now, I heard someone say this many years ago that human beings have a worship gene, right? That they have this this gene that says that we need to

Worse is something greater than ourselves and that gets into this this word metaphysics, right? Metaphysics the word meta means to go beyond and so to even go beyond that and so then it gives people Again, it's the mores. I mean when you look at if you look at your religious experience They talked a whole lot about moral behavior, right? You know, you shouldn't send You know and and make sure you don't send

And we weren't always clear on what sin was. In my mind, sin was what I wouldn't do. Sin is what right out does. Almost every day. Almost every day, right? So, you know, but understanding that. And again, that's the thing where

even in our religious experiences, it goes on the exposure of the person who's teaching on religion, right? So if you only exposed to certain things, then it gets back to our original thought about him. Does it exist over and beyond my understanding? Now, I believe that just because I don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist because it really does. Like I don't see New York City right now, but New York City exists.

Well, you don't see oxygen with oxygen. Oxygen exists. Come on, man. It's offer time for that boy. Oh, I'm sick of that. Oh, help us. Oh, my, my, my, my good. Oh, man. I was.

Right, I was blind, but now I can see. I was today years old when I found out. Clark had back me up. Boy, you know what? That boy been on the road. But didn't Jesus say that even though we don't see the wind? Yeah. That doesn't mean it don't exist. That part. And speaking of Jesus, we need to be more like him. Who?

So, like, even if you in traffic and somebody flip you off, you should be more like Jesus. Like, follow him home and flip their tables over. Be more like Christ. Flip their tables over and take credit.

It's what Jesus did. It's what Jesus did. Alright. Alright. Alright. Alright. Alright. Alright. Alright. Alright. Alright. Alright. Alright. Alright. Alright. Alright. Alright. Alright.

We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. Saeed is the winner. Exactly. OK. And Donovan McKinney, a new member of the Congressional Black Caucus, won once those Detroit votes came in. And he was a DSA candidate too, but I think.

that his election was more really returning to speak that was formally represented by John Tanya's junior. It was more returning that seat into the black representation. So let me, let's talk about the 800-pound gorilla in the room. Democratic socialism,

You know now I can get in I do I did a whole political thing on what is socialism that whole piece Right now and this kind of brings us back to where we are here even in the state of Wisconsin you have endorsed County executive David Crowley correct Okay, do you think that one there is this

Schism in the Democratic Party where the so-called establishment mainstream Democrats moderate Democrats against progressive Democratic Socialists, is there a schism currently in the party? No, I you know Hopefully I'm not seeing it as a schism, you know, I I'm not afraid of this word Democratic Socialism as a matter of fact. I mean when Darren Madison ran against a regular

Democrats, some really, you know, a mayor of a small city here in Wisconsin and so on, who ran to be my state representative, I endorsed him because I understood what democratic socialism is as opposed to socialism. I mean, a democratic socialism is still a market system of government, but with strong social programs and regulations.

So, yeah, if you're, you know, anybody's going to be called the socialist if they believe in Social Security, you know, if they believe in the Social Security Black Rancor so that old people can get meals on wheels, if they believe in Medicaid, that automatically makes you a socialist, you know, if you want to regulate markets, if you want, you know, if you want people

investments to be monitored by the Superior Exchange Commission, that makes you a socialist. So I think that, you know, we need to, we're at a period in the country, if not the state, where we have to really educate people. So when people vote for, I think, democratic socialists, they're basically responding to their needs, and their needs for affordability.

But there needs to, you know, there's sense that maybe here's a candidate that will meet my social needs. And so I think that we got to stop being scared of the word. That's the effect. Go on. So do you, usually when you get a rise of populism, and I think that you can look at that from the perspective right now, the Democratic Party, I think you also get that Trump ran on a certain level of populism.

Right. Let me just kind of throw this in, this kind of being parenthetical. So when we were on the brink doing COVID and the government pumped all this money into the economy, wasn't that a level of socialism? If you'd like to call it that, yeah. And the point I'm getting to is, but Republicans, I don't know any Republican state,

that sent back stimulus money. I don't know any business that was eligible for the different stimulus monies out there who didn't take advantage of it. So my question is, why then isn't that socialism? And the fact that the things that you just outlined that someone would have access to adequate healthcare is socialism and socialism in that pejorative sense.

is a great example. But the problem with that example is that, you know, Republicans, after taking the money, they criticized that they blamed inflation, following inflation on the fact that we had pumped so much money into the economy. They were not happy about those, about the stimulus. And of course, you know, a lot of people out there go down Trump credit.

for the stimulus so he signed it with his big ugly marker and people thought he gave him the money when Democrats fought him and made him sign some of those bills to the bad bill and so you know socialism is part of our democracy

It's the mixture of a marketing economy, the strong regulations, and the social programs. And of course, the Trump administration is trying to dismantle all of our social programs, trying to destroy Medicaid, Medicare, public education, group group.

So, you know, so I thought about this. You know, you know, I hate the establishment, because the establishment is free speech. The establishment are having libraries. The establishment is getting the citizenship every month. The establishment.

is having Medicaid where your baby can go to the hospital. The establishment is Medicaid so that your grandmother can go to the nursing home where you can no longer care for her at home, or you can get Medicaid for people at home. So the establishment, the so-called reviled establishment, right now, the establishment is fighting to preserve all of these institutions for people.

So how do you you know to me it's you know Jermaine was just commenting on some of the commercials that's being run against Francesca Hahn here in the state How important is it for the Democratic label to be able to define itself and not be defined by Republicans Well, first of all those I'm glad you mentioned the fact that Republicans

are running those negative ads against Francesca Hong. And that running against them because name recognition is name recognition is name recognition. They are literally deliberately trying to drive the vote towards Francesca Hong because they perceive that she's the easiest one to debate because of that moniker that she's adopted of being a democratic socialist. Although it's very likely

that she believes the same thing that other Democrats believe, to a large degree. You know, wanting public education to be good, wanting healthcare to be good. But they perceive, and perhaps they're right, that, you know, Coles demonstrated that she had, she was a little bit weaker.

than the other candidates who were on the ballot with regard to winning the general election. Now, you know, we're not at that point yet because we have David Crowley there. And, you know, people should not discourage him or some sort of establishment candidate, you know, see somebody that was born in 5306, grew up in Milwaukee Public School, early, early career.

uh, was part of the, uh, the underground, um, uh, what, what it was called. Urban, urban underground. Urban underground. Really saving youth, uh, uh, you know, before they got in trouble, uh, and really ministering, uh, to other young people who could get caught up in the system and drop out of school. Um, you know, he was a community organizer.

And then he went to the state. He's one of us. We've raised him. We know him. And so people should not be concerned that the so-called establishment of a candidate endorsed by the governor somehow won't look out for us meeting public education, meeting health care.

I asked, I had the opportunity to interview four of the Democratic candidates for the nomination on the Democratic side. And the question I asked them was, what should happen on August 12th, regardless of who wins the race? So I'll ask you that question. What should happen on August 12th? Well, you know, we have a very short runway towards the general election.

because our elections are held so late. A lot of primaries were done in March, in May. And so our nominee needs to be known statewide to the wider electorate. And so we'll have any choice but to try to get together and endorse whoever the winner is.

uh and and work not just endorse them but work because we need this practice that we need to win all three houses in this state in order to level set where we are at in the state um we got some you know the legislature has some serious decisions to make after the we're in the midst in the middle of the Trump era um you know 1.2 trillion dollars

of Medicaid has been cut and the impact that that's going to have on badger care. I mean, there's going to be a lot of hard decisions that have to be made, no matter who our nominee is. You know, if we win the governor's race, you know, all of those distinctions about Democrat, Democrat, socialist, Democrat, this or that will disappear because governing will be

the the main thing and you know the concern about who wins the primary is this will you will you help or hurt down ballot in the state will our nominee drag down other people or build up other people in the state so that we can win the senate so that we can win the assembly uh here in the state of the state you know so that we can

So that, you know, one of the biggest complaints that I heard was that Tony was there by himself. Tony was there with both houses being Republicans. And so he was, you know, he had his hands tied a lot in terms of the only people he could negotiate with were Republicans. You know, people got mad. Oh, he negotiated with the Republic. Well, they were doing in the majority. And so.

In order to level set things, we definitely need our nominee to bring along people in other districts. We need to win more seats in the Assembly and in the Senate. Do you think that through Tom Tiffany, because prior to all of the, and you can't describe it any other way, but the chaos that happened on the Democratic side, you know, Trump, though he might not be on the ballot,

Trump is still, what would I say, he could be a driving force in terms of turnout, because I just think that this is a turnout election. If Michigan is any example, just what we saw in the primary where they saw it was a strong turnout, that, you know, the bottom line for people who might tend to support Democrats is that we need to go after anything, anybody that's aligned with Trump. Oh, let me just tell you.

is a mother Trump. He's a member of the so-called freedom caucus. These are the most right wing, you know, people want to talk about how far left our caucus is. Think about how far right these are the people that deny women with the death of freedom. These are people that don't want black people to vote. These are people, you know,

And Tom Tiffany belongs to the freedom pocket. A little bit to you with a whole lot me. And, you know, it's, you know, I heard somebody say, boy, if we, if we elect Tom Tiffany, you know, most of us don't be begging for Scott Walker to come back. So don't you think that that then should be the focus?

not necessarily who heads the Democrat talk much the Democratic ticket as much as um being making sure that Tom Tiffany does not become governor exactly that's the conversation that has to occur on August 12th you know to use your date you know all hands on deck with Pete and Tom Tiffany that is much more important than who wins the primary quite frankly you know

uh, we have got to have a democratic governor and that's focused on a beach and not just, you know, with lip service, but actual work that needs to be put in for our nominee. A few minutes left. Uh, I just see, uh, do you think that the SAVE Act has any chance of passing before you all go on, uh, go on your break?

Well, I hope that Republicans will own in the House and the Senate. We have very few days that we're in session before the election. We go back August 31st, and then that's the end of the session where we need to get a budget done for the rest of this year. So hopefully the clock will run out.

and they won't be able to do that. There's a lot of resistance to it. And plus, you know, like they demanded, for example, that we get our state turnover, our voter rolls to the federal government. And Tony Evers has refused to do that. And several states have refused to do that. So, you know. There's even been some red states, though. There have been red states who have refused to give over. Oh, OK.

Yeah, there has been, and maybe fear precedent that if Republicans do it, maybe Democrats can do it. But I was surprised that there were a couple of red states that said, no, we're not turning over our voter information. And I think that there's fear out there that there's, well, let me ask you this question. Do you think that there will be election interference in the midterm in November? Well, we're already seeing.

that they're sort of setting the stakes for it. I saw last night on TV in Michigan that the Justice Department, if someone had sent monitors to monitor the Wayne County election collection center, place where 25% of the votes are, and of course, where black people live in Wayne County.

And they sent people just to stand around. They didn't interfere, but they standed there. So, you know, what I'm concerned about is whether they have ice, bring in ice, actively interferes with people coming in to pose or wearing ice uniforms of big men standing out of Poland. This is what I'm concerned.

about. So even if you're not, even if you're not an immigrant, even if you're not an undocumented person, if you're brown, you might just decide not to go in to a polling place. If you're a light-skinned black person, you might decide, nah, I ain't doing this. Oh snap.

So it's designed to frustrate turnout, and that's indeed what it will do. You said you were going to go, but I want to speak before you kick me off. I want to tell people about, to book my website, goingmore.house.gov, to look out the summer feeding programs where kids can get free meals this summer. That's very, very important.

I think as we get one in four kids in Milwaukee going home, and I want to make sure I just get that word out. All right, Congress. I'm glad I voted early. Oh, did you have a swell ballot?

No, no, no, you would say it if you were light-skinned. So I'm glad if I showed up at the polling place. DJ really in trouble.

Well, I know you personally, so you probably would make it. I don't know. I don't know. I'm so glad we voted early, Lord. Lord, I'm so glad. Like, I go to vote. I don't come home running, so what happened to Keith? Ice. Ice. Yeah, no, you good, man. So that's what I'm saying.

So 24,000, 7,000, fewer, not tonight, federal food. Yes. Yeah. And so I want to make sure that the people go to my website, go ahead for that house, stateofusd.gov, find out where they can send their CACP.

for the rest of the summer till school starts. We just have to bite off this problem one bite at a time till we get to, till we reach the goal. Well, I appreciate you, Congresswoman Gwen Moore. Thank you. Always or always appreciate when you check in. And thank you for the information. It's always good. All right. Yes, ma'am. All right. Bye.

Bye bye. You're listening to Community Voice. We're going to take a quick break. Hopefully Ice will not come and grab me. Somebody put it in the chat. He's thinking about you. We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. The voice you hear.

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We were talking to my niece and her friend and one of her friends and we were talking and We were asking the question

Um, there's a program out there married at first sight. Yes. And so, you know, that ridiculousness. So it was going. So I asked Rhonda, I said, Hey, was it love at first sight for you? You got it. What you got to do is not ask questions like.

Did you know you're going to get an answer? Like, if you ask the question, hey, babe, would you do it all over again? Probably not. I'm waiting on that one. No, but you know, her, her response was it wasn't right away. So the nights of her, go away with it. I said, so was it three hours? No. 24 to 48 hours. You know, I mean, it's because really love is random. I don't believe it.

now oh yeah i do the very first day i ever saw met the man i knew i knew see that one love though yeah that was the other ill word no no no it became the other ill word it started off it started off no i mean there have been instances where and i know we were here to talk about your

We talk about this in the morning. Healthy is love is healthy. But no, what I'm saying is that that part of it is just our animal nature, right? That people that we are, and I'm going to use the term for all you deep religious people who you're sexually attracted to, that's love, right? Falling in love is sexual. I was, if that's the case. Yes.

I think I've been in love a whole lot. Well, there you go. There you go. Because then people get into, can you love? I'm in love right now. You can love. No, no. I'm in love with my career. But what happens is then, you know, because there are other types of love, it can transition into. And unfortunately, the way that the animal science works is that a lot of times the people we fall in love with are not the people we can nest with. There you go. You know what I mean? Because it's not really based on anything long term. It really is something short term.

See, this is counseling. See him reinforcing what I tell you every two weeks. I tell you. See, that's why I may not be having different ones, man, because it's like short term and I fall in love for like a day. Hey, because I tell you long term, and especially when you codify the long term, i.e. you got a contract. It's legal. Yeah, it is a little bit more difficult to extricate yourself from that relationship. That's why.

when I keep lawyers, when I keep lawyers. Well, I mean, it gets expensive after it. It does. It does. I mean, but I said cheaper than keeper is in the document. And you know what? I used to hear that. I thought great little song had no clue. I know now. Do the calculation. I know now. There's some called the bath, right? You know, there is.

Because people say, hey, do you counsel people before they get married? I say, yeah, I do. But not the way you think. I mean, there are things out there that can make a healthy relationship. But you got to remember, I bring my stuff. She brings her stuff. There's two people there trying to negotiate each other's stuff. And so now that's the type of love that you can go beyond that.

But it's funny how, and this is again for all you people who may or may not be religious, it's funny how the divide works because then maybe there's something that will happen in that relationship that will help you realize just how much you care about the situation. You're right. Oh, Katie, you're right. Because the day I'm like, ugh. And then something happened. Like, do get in the car accident. But I tell my wife, though, look. No, we don't claim that. No, hold on a minute. Well, it can happen. I tell my wife, though, if you fall,

I would like bore him to death. I would find the worst book I could find and just read it very slowly in his vegetative state.

Right? Come on. It was the best of times. It was the worst. Do you remember when we used to fall in love? Obviously I don't. But I'm just saying that. But then you those are decisions. It's like you got to marry somebody that look at it.

through the course of life, right? This is going to be the person that when you need adult diapers, right? That's the person that's going to go get them. When you start to lose your parents and the people that mean the most to you, that's the person that's going to be there, right? So although you can love somebody at first sight, that's not the longevity kind of love. You know, it was something that Rhonda said to me, you know, I was dealing with my back.

And she said, she said, I hate seeing you like this. I hate seeing you in pain. Now this gets to Joe's wife and people really gave Joe's wife a hard time. But someone pointed out that she didn't want to see her husband suffering. You know that that that that impacts us. If you love a person when they're in pain.

You're in pain now I have a different philosophy because I like to say look God inflicts things when you don't do what you're supposed to do So if you had to just listen to me and taking the clothes out the dryer when I asked you to you wouldn't be feeling so much And you know what God said

Told you I don't I don't I don't blame God for my decisions

I do not. I was grown enough to make the decisions. I need to be grown enough to accept the consequences of those decisions. Can I ask a question? You may certainly can. Can I ask this question? You most certainly can. Do you think you should live with somebody for a year or two before you marry with this? No. No. How are you going to know how they live? OK, but here's my rationale. Here's my rationale. I've been married, what, 22 years this September?

And I said this, there are some things you put up with when you're contractually bound that you would not do. I wouldn't. Listen here, man. You just you would not. So I will I will say that sometimes I'm on the wrong side of that. I love my coffee every morning without fail. Got to have it. I drink it out of a big cup and it's usually the same cup. Right. Wash it at night. I will leave my cup anywhere.

Right? Sometimes nice things. Sometimes it's where I'm reading my book. Right? It just, it floats. This is my husband. Why can't you put it back in the kitchen? Why can't you put it back in the kitchen? That probably would have been one of the things that he would be like, she just, she just leave her coffee cup everywhere. Just leave it. Is it a grounds for divorce? It could be. You know what? He's like me in this way. My disability requires order.

That is my disability. Everything has a place. If you put it where you're supposed to put it, you can find it when you need it. You know, but it's a sickness with me. I got this thing about, I cannot deal with clutter. I cannot deal with clutter. You know, I know. And, and, and, but no, I think when people do this, it isn't amazing to shifting. I don't hear.

preachers talking about shacking up like I did back in the day. That's because in this economy, you got to look. Some people are willing to do some strange. Yeah, well, I'm just telling you that even in some of the churches that you depend on you going to, you know, because there's there's a reality like I said this and again, I'm saying this is Keith Paris. I'm not saying this as a representative of any religion. If you're in your seventies and you talking about getting married over.

No, you could lose money, depending on what your pension is. I mean, and look, marriage is about... It's a financial decision. Right, I mean, so what I think people say, because look, whether you live together or not, the whole thing was a prohibition of people having sex outside of marriage. Well, look, if that's not after lying, if that's not one of the most violated things that's been taught against...

You know when people that had sex outside of marriage So if you're trying to start and I think that that was kind of a simplistic. Well, you know, if you're not living together Okay, chances are you having more sex living together? So, you know, I think it's holy see that our holy

You know, she used to be the voice from the other room outreach community health. Let's talk about what's going on Saturday Saturday. So you coming right? You're going to be there. I got to work. Okay.

Who you sending that right now? And you know what? Let me say this Ebony be hustling always she from one end of that lot to the other I am the type of person you never ask someone to do what you are not willing to do for yourself I'm with you on that. That's how I mean phenomenal team though. So Saturday from 11 to 2 we have the 2026 community health and resource fair

at Outreach 220 West Capital Drive. Listen, it's going to be a time. Speaking of hustling, I'm walking folks through today, my final walk through, but I would like to shout out two of our sponsors before we go on American Cancer Society. Just one of those sponsors that realizes that we get sick.

right in our community, especially our community and then ascension. So I just want to say kudos to those two for uplifting our work, making sure we're out in the community this Saturday. Do you all have, now is ascension doing any kind of clinics with you all? Yeah, so ascension is probably one of our strongest partners. We have the mobile health unit going to Ebenezer every week and Calvary.

I always want to say Calgary, Calvary missionary, missionary Baptist church. No, they're not missionary, they're just Baptist. Just, just by all law. What happens? No, they're American Baptist. We were talking about that off here. But yeah, just making sure that people don't have excuses to why they can't get quality healthcare. And I think that that kind of

kind of piggybacks on the conversation that Congresswoman Moore was having, where we're looking at all these cuts to programs that deal with people, certainly poor people, and their access to health care. And so as much access as

We can give yeah, the healthier our community becomes and listen I will I will kind of blend the two things that we were just talking about getting married So folks get married for health care. Can we just keep it really really really real like somebody got some good benefits? You know, you know that that make you look a little Right a little little hotter. You know what I mean?

But a lot of folks fall through the cracks. So I'm excited that we get to be there. Talking about folks shacking up and having fun before they get married. STI's.

Come get yourself checked out, right? Or even pregnancies? Listen, all of it. Because that whole prenatal care becomes real important. And you know, I mean, if we can talk about marriage, but I think one of the issues I know we do work around infant mortality and the work that we do around fatherhood development. And one of the more fascinating stats was that many people who are not married

the fathers of their 18 months postpartum. Yes. But at the same time, let's talk about the women who deal with those issues around postpartum, postpartum rejection, postpartum depression. I mean, it's such a huge life change that although women are smart, brilliant, resilient, we hear about it. But until you staring at that baby, they really let me walk out of the hospital with no instructions, no, and I'm responsible for a life like that.

And you know and it's funny because we we have to get a license to buy a dog But we don't license people when it comes to whether or not and and again it kind of started off our whole conversation about how our animal nature works and so me being Sexually attracted to someone we can procreate and and it does what what look when the creator put it in place It was like there's the drive. This is how you procreate

And but then that's not the same as nesting, you know, when you have to get there and figure out how you're going to raise that child together, all the pressures that you had. We had two doctors on from Ascension yesterday and they were talking about all these stressors and trauma and how it impacts our mental health. You know, it's more than just having a baby. That's the easy part. That's the easy. I mean, to be fair, that's

That's the easy part. Yeah, but it's the reason. And look, I don't know if there is such a thing of ideal parents, because I think each kid brings their own thing with them. And parents have to figure out how do I pivot to Ebony is this way, but Keith is this way. Yeah. Right. You know. And then I think, you know, being the oldest. Yeah. See, I'm not only. Yeah. But a lot of mistakes are made on me. Yeah.

And then the two that come after me, they kind of benefit from my mom learning. And when I say mistakes that are made, look, it is not. There are no perfect parents, right? You know, because they asked yesterday, well, no, I did not have a overly traumatic childhood. My childhood, I had a lot of fun in my childhood, but that didn't mean that there weren't things that's happening. A single mom struggling, trying to figure out how to feed three kids, right? Yeah, with or without the help.

of the person who helped create it, those three kids. So it could be, I'm not gonna say it was trauma free. We all, and you bring up a good point because I shared this with my daughter. We all share a different trauma with our kids and we're all trying to assuage what we went through. I felt I had to grow up because I was the only, had to be perfect. Because whatever I did wrong, you got bad parents.

If you act up in school, that's a direct reflection of your parents. So you got to be on point. I was a little more lenient with my kid, right? And that affected her in different ways. Well, you met Kennedy. I got a picture of you and Kennedy, right? Kennedy's an only child. And I worry sometimes about...

the whole social piece of it, you know, like, because she's just used to talking to adults. Her affirmation comes from adults. You may or may not get affirmation for another seven-year-old, right? They deal it with their thing. No, when Angela Harris was on talking about how kids

go to school and they might not have the best clothes or they smell a certain way. The other kids, they're not doing this. They're not talking about the 400 years of institutional racism and systemically why you might be in this situation and all we know is you smell like pee. And we're going to let you know. You smell like pee, right? So that was always, you know, that's my concern in terms of that. But yeah, I think everybody, whether you're only child, you can come from a gaggle of kids. Gaggle.

Tell him about that station wagon You know my when I was my mom sent me to Tennessee when I was two

Because she had had my brother and so she sent me down to be one or not so from two until five I was basically an only child and so I had cousins who lived across the road from us directly across the road So I would go over there cuz kids were over there. It was like 11 12 of them Can't even imagine right can't even imagine, but you know, it was really funny and I hate to bring this up and I think about it years later It'd be so weird because you know

My cousins were, you know, like, right house complexion. And then it'd be me. And people tried to figure out... How you get here? How you get here?

But, uh, no, I think that all of that, and I think it's great that when you all do the out, and you know, you all started out outreach, right? Outreach for the homilism. But that whole outreach where we sometimes have to meet people where we are, you know, we've been talking about democratic socialism. Oh, lower. No, but let me give you an example of democratic socialism here and relating to our conversation. In Milwaukee, if up until you were five years old, a nurse would come out.

to check on you, right? Okay, they would come to check on you. That was socialism to make sure that if there are any kind of health issues with kids, they're identified and you have and these are nurses, right? Because I can remember when they came out for my sister. Yeah, it's a struggle though, because the things that work, we fight so hard against. But we don't want to pay for it. But a healthy and well workforce serves everyone well.

Well, that's why we have health insurance. Your employer offered it. If you're healthy, you can come to work. No, I mean, it was practical. If people laugh about it, but it's true. I mean, if I can provide you with health care, you're a healthier employee. Correct. Means chances are correct. You're going to be more productive. But don't we believe as a collective society that if we're all healthy,

Like if you could use your sick days for well days, I'm not a person that gets sick for a long time I'd love to just be able to be like it's 70 degrees outside. I'm feeling good. I just don't want to work because you know what let me tell you the problem with mental health I took too many mental health days and then I got sick

Ah, now I got to take your echinacea. And so I had just enough sick time to cover my illness. And you know what happened after that? When I retired from the county, I had 900 hours of sick time. DJ's mom had so much sick time. Yeah, I mean, it got to the point because then as you get older. Right.

And that's the whole thing about health care and young people. Young people feel like one they're invincible. They're not dealing with a lot of issues. The bag goes out the first time. The bag goes out the first time. So can't you use, is it called FMA, FMLA? Yeah, but you still have to have the time to get paid. All the FNLA says is that they can't terminate you. You don't have the time. You just doing it without pay. Yeah. Doing it without pay.

Yeah, if you don't have the time and that's why a lot of people go to PTO now so that can be used for anything, right? I just I feel like we ought to start over. It's a beautiful time. The world is crumbling. Let's just start over. Let's do something different. Let's just try something different. Well, let me tell you why that's so difficult. It was something and I didn't really get a chance when Congress mourned. There is something if you study political science, something called status quo. Most of us.

Want the status quo that means it doesn't change will nibble around the edges? We will if there's something dramatic going on like the Great Depression There's something we're gonna go, but I'm telling you most people vote for the status quo What about now though like what about the actual time that we are in right now the times that we're in right now means that we want to change a little bit of the status quo

But not a radical radical change like the rise of democratic socialism is a response to inequities economically people were experiencing in society And so that's when you see a rise of that movement, right? We'll have to call it something different But the principal state the principal and if you ask most people like I have people coming in and they're railing against socialism I said, so what do you think of social social security?

You know which was and look when and if you understand the history what led up to Social Security those things didn't exist before 1935 the Communist Party is making inroads in America because of income Inequality that was really exacerbated because of the depression so FDR made a decision That here's what we need to do once again like when I was talking to Congress one more about

Doing COVID and all that stimulus money. You can't show me one Republican red red state that sent back money that didn't take advantage of that money You can't show me one corporation that didn't take advantage of that socialism. Okay, which is if people study economics We don't we don't call those things out when they occur So people don't make the connection Something as simple as

We now communism communism is the word everybody against communism China is a communist country, right? But they pivoted. Okay, let's go with me on this when you look at our home mortgages Dead securities all of that most of that is invested by the Chinese, right? So something about their system works because in essence they own us

because we put so much value in our housing market. It funds everything else, right? It's the biggest asset we have in the country. So we don't want to have that conversation because that's a more difficult conversation. Well, no, I think what you're pointing out is how we're globally tied.

economically. So we're not so upset with communism that we're willing to rebuild our housing market in the way we structure our debts in this country. We're not that mad. We're just big bad on TV. If you look at it, if we could pull it up, what is the percentage of our economy that's based on housing? Probably a pretty significant part of our, and here's the other thing, healthcare.

All of it because no, but health care becomes significant because health care has become so monetized That now and see what China did was China said, okay, the government will take care of you, right? But then you're going to produce Okay, so they made the adjustment, right? I think we kind of still have this cold war sense of communism. So we get back

You'll listen to Community Voice. We're joined in studio by Ms. Ebony Salee, Community Outreach Health Centers, and we'll be right back. Host Keith Parris. Welcome back to Community Voice. We're joined in studio by Ms. Ebony Salee. She's here to talk about a very important resource for this happening Saturday. And so we get back from the break. She'll go to the information. You listen to Community Voice. You're going to take a break and we'll be right back.

Welcome back to Community Voice. Covering all the things. Well, you know what? My program is about everything and nothing. Well, I mean, it is much of the piggyback. Just what everybody thought.

Somebody will come up and say something. OK, here we go. This is in the chat. Good health care, better to have it and not to need it than to need it and not have it. And I agree with that. And you know, you don't. Again, when you're younger. You know, you you it's like your car. You don't have to do a whole lot of maintenance when it's wild and free. Yeah, but we got a car that's 13 years old.

And we really gotta, and we don't have to do a lot of care because we took care of it from the beginning. I don't know if that is a metaphor for life, but I think important understanding your health, you know, we ignore a lot, we learn how to live with our symptoms, you know, but, and then, you know, there's a difference between how men view healthcare, how women view healthcare, you know, and women probably only because of pregnancy.

right that they're more likely are more than just our birth giving years. Just saying, starting to protest in here now. But it's that. But it's I think there was a shift, maybe early nineties, mid nineties, that women started taking care of themselves, not just from a childbirth or just to look good, but like to actually be good. Man, I got yelled at last night. I was pointing out that Karen Clarkshire. Yes, must be using exempt.

because she's lost so much weight and my wife was like why are you criticizing her?

I'm not criticizing her. How'd the render look? Okay, the render still look. Okay. Twinkie still look and Twinkie has some and has some help has always kind of she almost died. Yeah. From having a surgery. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. She almost died from surgery. She I don't know if she did a gastric bypass. So which one was that that almost drove off the cliff? Was that the render? Could have been. But what I'm saying is an Oprah said this.

Who's also using the example I said, you know vanity drives a lot of it. Oh my god, but it should be your health So, you know what you might not lose that last five pounds, but you could probably be in the best shape of your life Well, here's the thing here's the thing and I hope I don't get blowback from this

We are always searching for the quick fix. It was the fin fin. It was the excedrin. It was like the pre-workout was big. None of that is good for your heart. Oh, and before we had HIV, it was AIDS. You remember that? No, no, no, no. Not the disease. There was a product out there called AIDS. It was a weight reduction product. No, no, no, no. I remember it. Yeah.

And I think vanity, it gets us up in the morning. I'm not, but I'm thinking if, if we can be in the best health, the best shape we can be in at that point in our life. And, and obviously, you know, and then the other thing is how we look does impact how we think. Oh my God. And it, it affects, let's be real, real. It affects how people treat you. So the days where I roll out of the house, no lipstick on, just looking, right?

baseball cap. You can see one little Michael Jackson curl. People treat me differently than when I come out with a little bit of lipstick. Oh yeah, because when I'm in incognito. Listen, I get treated the same. You know, people treat you differently. Because pretty Ricky went the car. I try to tell them that you know, that's who I am. Pretty Ricky. But don't be cute and also have heart disease. That would be my message.

Don't not switch your hair out, but then you have diabetes. And that's the downside of vanity. Vanity, let's talk about a health issue that this time of year we're dealing with, the number of black youth who drown. That part. And part of that is their moms and dads, because they got their hair dead, don't want them to get in the pool.

I would say this thing. Yep. But the same kids then want to get in the water and can't swim. And look, can I give you all some history on black folks in swimming? Please do. Do you know that during enslavement, it was illegal to teach a slave to swim? Of course. I'll say it again. That's the legacy. It was illegal to teach a slave to swim. Escape. Escape.

So, I mean, sometimes your vanity can get you and get me into a whole lot. I was looking at when I was young, had my bush, you couldn't get me to put a hat on. All of this is ice. No, I didn't do the pick in it. You know why? Because I had a teacher, Larry Gross, he's gone home to glory. And Blue came in with a pick in his hair and he said, take the pick out. And then he used the N word and say, you ain't from Africa.

Oh, that's a whole different because I will tell you this. I feel there are so many things that are historic to our very nature, our very soul, like the chains, the jewelry. That's just where we from. That's just, we have always had minerals. We've always had like the jewelry. But how much of it is also though us compensating, fake it till you make it compensating?

for senses of inadequacy or inferiority. And so we think if we look a certain way, but healing is internal. It is. I mean, that's why when you have a wound, they're giving you an antibiotic. They're not trying to deal with the scab. They're dealing with the infection. It's a multi-layered. Yeah, that's in your wound. So could it be that, like you just said, with the jewelry and things like that,

Could it be that we saw somebody else doing it, and it intrigued us to the point that we wanted to be like them? Look at where the minerals come from. So whenever, and I love those kinds of conversations, because you know, people, oh, why they got to do the most, why they got to do, even to bring the swimming back full circle.

We've we said, okay, let's put braids in and now we'll work out and now we'll swim and now we'll do all that Now if somebody sees a black girl with some braids with where were you? How long did it take to get that? Let me touch it. Let me but you know and this is a this is just a societal observation and I'm gonna look at this as descendants laid back I Look at folks now. They're so made up. Mm-hmm. You gonna get this. I don't know the hair

is a lot of it is not self-grown. Sure, a weave, yeah. Yeah, I mean, you know, and I wonder how much of that is we're reverting back, because in the late 60s with black and proud, we went natural. How much of that is reverting back to European standards of beauty? Okay, I'm gonna give you a different point of view. Okay. So, because I love my weave, I held on very tight to it for many, many years. If you're going to be a woman, black professional,

and you're going to be moving from here into there. I will wake up at five o'clock. First event is at eight. Then next event is at 11. Turn around and go shaper on the field trip. Then I got a dinner event. And then you have to look right for each of those. So sometimes my curls fall, right? I'm not in the bathroom, re-curling my hair. The weave just works. So it had nothing to do with me trying to be somebody or, right? Yeah, but I'm saying, but even it was convenient.

would that influence what the weave look like? Well, for me, I love my curtain. So here's the thing for me at growing up as a kid, my hair has always been curly. I live for a relaxer. Oh my God. My let me relax my hair. I want to be straight. I want to be fine now. That's that's the thing, right? But as a kid, I'm like trying to get.

of the part no this is how my hair is always always been Mike that's why I say the Michael Jackson curl was was real um but this was in the age where girls had the short wrap and the short bob and it was super straight and I would press my right to get it straight and it would curl right back up well let me say what my my

And I'm only doing this description. My fair-skinned mother who did hair. My fair-skinned mother who did hair always said that there's no such thing as bad hair when it comes to black people. At all. I mean, Adamette about that. She said, we got heat in Greece. Listen. But her point was that when we

Look that we want like like really really long straight here Now there's parts of Africa where that happened in eastern Africa that happens But because of where we were for thousands of years and what it did in terms of our evolving adapting to environment But I think it is how we think about ourselves and then what becomes a standard of beauty is

And and and look I tell people I am trying to unlearn so much white supremacy I mean it is so inculcated You go talk about going left. I'm gonna give you this stat and I hope my parents aren't listening When I shared this we talk about standards of beauty when you find the data in the stats for most adult websites Black women are at the top. So whether it's shared in public or not

Black women are the standard of beauty around that. Yeah, but I said it very professionally. No, no, Sally Himmons, Sally Himmons. Like we everybody, somebody was talking about something they said, they said, yeah, with Thomas Jefferson had a black girlfriend. You see? Yeah, but I'm not so much the people that look at us. I'm talking about how we look at us. Because trust me that there's a lot of brothers out there and I know I get some blowback.

who their standard of beauty is, you know. It's a slippery slope. Bless you. It's a slippery slope. I mean, what you find attractive is a part of your environment, is a part of how you're raised. It's all connected. All right. So again, tell us about the outreach community.

Health centers. Join us this Saturday, 11 to 2. Come and just say, hey, meet the NOV. You'll be broadcasting. We'll be chatting on the air. Come say, hey to me. Take a selfie or two. But it's for the community. So food, fun, family. You're going to say, hey to her. Make sure you have on your running shoes. Hey. Because she's moving.

I am, always, always. And we get a chance to meet the CEO. Yeah, well, no, she'll be out this particular time. But you will get to meet the team. And it'll be a good day. The weather is supposed to be perfect, amen. Because the last few years, it's been hot. It was hot last year. Yes. And then the floods after that. So it was not a good time. So this will be a good time. Come out. You guys get damage from the flood? We did not. We lost power for a few days. Yeah, because you were a high ground.

You know, it was crazy. The August 8 flood was my class reunion. And we were at Hubbard Park, and you know, they had that lodge, which is elevated. So it had no clue what was going on. And I had people, because a lot of my classmates are North Shore, and they were just talking about the water. The water, the power. Again, food. Come on now. It's going to be a time. It's going to be a time. Free produce, free lunch. Yeah.

I guess that. Let me thank Clark Kent. Let me thank Apostle. Jigalows need love too. Let me thank Congress Robert Grant Moore and of course Ms. Ebony Salee of Community Outreach. Again, hope to see everybody on Saturday. I will be there Saturday. Okay. You know, so get a chance to see it. Hey y'all, the good Lord willing.

Tomorrow's gonna be a long day. I'm coming from Michelle tomorrow morning, so Maybe you should bring some sliders tomorrow since we're gonna be here all day. Oh, oh you gonna put me to work You know it was Thomas Jefferson's enslaved African who brought macaroni and cheese to America

It was one of the best decisions you've ever made, man. I love a good food. Hey, y'all, the good Lord Willis Creek Don't Rise. In spite of slavery. Hey, y'all, the Lord Willis and the Creek Don't Rise. Don't have to talk to everybody tomorrow. And as always, go for this place and peace.

Good morning.

Welcome to Community Voice.

I'm your host Keith Pearce.

I want to thank everybody for joining us this morning.

Hello, man.

I can't do this other cheer.

Good morning, Clark

Kent.

Oh,

you're wet.

I'm with you, bro.

What's happening, Apostle?

I know no horse today, man.

Just keyboard and drums.

You know, I heard.

bits and pieces of a program with Angela Harris, good job.

I told her off here, don't ever run for political office because I think she's an uncompromising voice.

And the one thing about politics is it begins to compromise your voice.

I don't care who you are.

You've got to moderate in order to get elected.

And so sometimes you just need that voice crying out in the wilderness for justice.

And certainly justice.

in the area.

A lot of people don't see education as a justice issue,

but it really is.

And so I appreciate that and the work she does.

And I'm a hater.

You know, when I first saw her, I used to be like, why don't you girl, why don't you go sit down?

Sit down somewhere.

Yeah, that's how I hate.

But over the years, I can see, you know, what she was about.

So let me do this.

Let

me I was a Tyrone W was talking about study hall.

Yeah, let me my experience when I was at Parkman study hall was Used for punishment.

I know that other people study hall you'd have a Schedule, you know in your schedule you'd have study hall Dominican was different Dominican we were on a modular system and that modular system meant that

The day was broken into 20-minute segments.

Depending on the class you took would be the combination of the segments.

Bills rang every 20 minutes.

When I first got there, that was tripping me out.

All you heard was bells.

Every 20 minutes, every 20 minutes, you hear the bells.

That's why my junior year, the senior class prank was to steal the bells.

Putting the greatest senior pranks of all time.

So now we don't have those bells, right?

And I don't know if y'all have ever heard of Pablo and Pablo where with the dog and stimulus with the dogs, stimulus, response, stimulus, response.

So we just knew, you know, you look at the clock and you knew that if you had a lab that's 60 minutes, gym was 60 minutes, other classes were 40 minutes, you know, so you just knew how to move.

Because I'm telling when I first got there and all I heard was those bells.

It's like, oh, man.

So, but we didn't have study hall.

We didn't have a science study hall.

We had resource center.

So there was a math resource center, social studies resource center, English resource center, science resource center.

That's a social studies.

And so that's where you would go.

And then a lot of the learning material would be in those different resource centers, right?

And you weren't assigned.

It was up to you because what Dominican was preparing students for when you got to college.

And how you kind of move and then we were able to kind of come along my junior year senior year We were able to do certain electives like you get in college and what was the other thing we had?

Oh religion went from

Religion went from it became mandatory was accredited class now because I was Protestant and and many of the black students out there were Protestant We could opt out a religion priority that my junior year senior year once it became a credit you had to take religion so This one so we're hearing that conversation very different

piece about study hall.

I know maybe once or twice in the three years I was at Parkman.

I got sent to study hall.

But yeah, study our resource centers were there.

You go in and you do your work.

And so a lot of times you could do a lot of your homework in school.

And then there's a question about homework and whether or not homework is even beneficial.

Homework is beneficial.

If I have to go home and do reading for a class, then I think but just to go home and do busy stuff now for young kids is also

Because, you know, kids are learning by repetition.

So, you know, you might go home and you work on certain things to kind of enhance.

But, you know, there's been a debate about there are a lot of schools that don't even give homework, right?

And for whatever reasons.

But when I heard that whole discussion about study halls, I just remember my experience at Dominican.

And I had already, you know,

I was a user of libraries.

I mean, that started for me when I was like six years old.

So I had no problems going to the library, sit there, read, study.

As a matter of fact, Clark, you remember the movie, Cornbread Early Me?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jamal Wilkes and a young Lawrence Fishburne, the third.

Well, I actually, it was one of the few black books in the library at Dominican was a book called The Hog Butcher.

And The Hog Butcher is by a guy named Ron Fair.

And they used that book to do cornbread, earl, and meat.

I read the book before they did the movie.

I was like, oh, oh,

so I want you hate when people say I read the book is better than the movie.

Yeah, I read the book.

It was better than the movie.

So yeah, that that was what I heard that whole conversation about education.

Let

me ask you, how come when I hear this a lot, the book is better than the movie?

Why they'll never make the movie like the book then if you go away?

Well, I think because a lot of times, you know, there's this creative licensing that people do, you know, like you making up dialogue because depending on the book and what's inclusive in the book.

So I think that that's it, you know, because reading it is very different than how do you make it live action.

So I think a lot of times it's just so you keep the attention of the audience.

You know, books can, they can kind of go on.

I mean, like War and Peace, I don't know, close to a thousand pages, I think, in terms of reading that book.

And I don't know how many people read it in Russian.

So, anyway.

Oh, here's the other thing.

When I got off the program yesterday,

As I do normally I check in with my wife and she said that the She said boys amazing how your your your program can dissolve into nonsense But I had a response I said no that was probably a One of those great philosophical conversations that people have

And so I did mention a guy named Humes and boy the stuff I remember Let me pull it up.

I remember from my philosophy class.

I love philosophy man.

I mean it was one of It was like one of the best classes I took in college after movies You know because movies was great man you all you have to do is just go watch movies.

That was a that was a great class But

Remember I said I don't know if you guys remember here's the word so here's Wednesday's word Wednesday's word skepticism Skepticism that's Wednesday's word It started even before we get on the air when we were talking about who killed Michael Jackson There was some skeptics and skeptics then come up with conspiracy theories, right now that works

We doubt what we see or hear.

And so then we then go into conjecture and we do conspiracy theories.

And I said, oh yeah, that's like Hume's.

Well, Hume, it is a guy named David Hume.

He's one of the most famous thinkers in history and a perfect hit.

Let's talk about the question I asked.

Hume took the idea of Locke and Berkeley and he took it into this thing called radical skepticism.

So here's what.

Hume's view on reality behind the door.

Remember I said, does it exist beyond the door?

The problem of habit.

Hume argued that you cannot prove anything exists outside of your immediate senses.

If you look at the door, you know it's there.

If you turn your back, you assume that it's still there.

And then he has this illusion of constancy.

You said your mind fills in the blanks based on habit and memory.

You have no logical rational proof that the door or the world outside it continues to exist when you aren't looking at it.

You just have a strong animal belief because it's always been there before.

And then, self-illusion.

Hume even argues that if you look inside your own mind, you don't find a permanent soul or self.

You only find a bundle of constantly changing perceptions.

In short, Hume argued that human reason cannot prove the existence of an external world.

You have to rely on blind faith and custom to get through the day.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, and it really isn't.

And so when you hear this whole idea skepticism, Rhonda and I were talking this morning and I was saying the Sunday School lesson was on Thomas and Thomas doubting the resurrection of Jesus.

Thomas was a lot of people because if we don't see it, it don't exist, right?

It's in our immediate world when we were when we were having a conversation back in 20 about COVID.

And people would talk about, well, I didn't see it in my neighborhood.

So in their minds, it didn't exist.

Even though there was a different reality out there, that even though you didn't see it in your neighborhood, it was happening all around us.

So there's always a certain, and I think the skepticism is healthy.

I think that you should be able to question those things that you think or believe.

It's kind of hard, though.

when, you know, to disprove a belief, right?

I mean, people feel very strongly about those things that they believe in, which gets us to Stevie Wonder when he wrote the song, Superstition, I think the line, and then those things that we don't understand is superstition, right?

So even one of the benefits of Be Healthy Be You is that you have

practitioners of medicine coming on and explaining how things work in a way that people can understand it.

Because the overwhelming majority of us didn't go to medical school.

We didn't go to nursing school.

We didn't go to dental school, right?

So, you know, all we can do is rely on what people tell us, right?

Or do you say we're tessuses?

That's right, we're tessuses.

That's the dumbest thing

I've

ever heard in my

life!

I just thought that, uh, man, so it didn't have to be a cleanup.

I was on point, uh, I had, I had, and I did cite the right person, uh, people like Locke and Berkeley.

But again, I don't know why I took to philosophy, maybe because it was abstract thinking.

And, uh, I could, I could always get with abstract concepts except algebra.

Algebra was the only abstract that I could I struggled with algebra man do it

It made no sense to me at all man now.

I have a better understanding of geometry now You know because of angles, right?

If you if you're doing sports Let's say we were talking.

I don't know who I was talking to yesterday.

We were talking about

DB's

But he was bad enough.

Yeah

Because algebra is is formulatic formulatic it is unknown.

I mean it is And but you know what most most of our scientific development is based on algebra, you know people putting together formulas and I did now another

Course, I really, really enjoyed the second time in college was logic.

You know, how do we think logical thinking and this whole thing I'm, I'm, I'm doing a, I'm preparing a message right now on, on the importance of reason and right reasoning.

You know, how important that is where, where we can reason, right?

As opposed to being emotional about a situation that there's

Okay, let's see zebra said because why are you hiding it man?

Oh Okay, oh because you weren't raised with it with an abacus.

No, but I mean I had obviously had a obviously I had a vivid imagination like I said I could I went when I got to But I got the philosophy where a lot of students struggled.

I didn't you know, I mean it was just like oh yeah

Yeah, yeah, it made sense to me in terms of that.

And even theology and being attracted to theology, the study of God, Theo means divine, right?

Theo, the Greek, the study, those things were fascinating to me.

Good morning, Barbara Smith.

They were fascinating to me and maybe not that anyone cares.

My view of religion is what is the purpose of religion?

What is the purpose of religion?

What what and and then once we get into Defining what is the purpose of religion and then particularly your religion?

I was speaking yesterday to a Palestinian brother.

He's the garage guy that came out and We ended up talking for a whole hour

And I don't know if he was just buttering me up to sell me a new garage door But you know, we talked about Gaza we talked about the West Bank his folks are from the West Bank How they got to America right now, you know, he just said he just went in for his green card interview He thinks that America is the greatest country on the face of the earth which I kind of looked at him going like hmm some days

And then other days, it's like, hmm.

But yeah, I mean, even when we get into, you know, the purpose of religion, and I'm not going to be specific.

But if I ask you, brothers, what do you think the purpose of religion is?

OK, thank you for that.

Four one four four four four four man.

I appreciate your answers I

mean

just when you think about religion, what do you think the purposes?

Well, but you're a practitioner of religion, right?

Okay, never thought about it just just showed up for it

So you ask what is the purpose of relationship?

Yeah for you.

What do you think the purpose is?

Hmm, all

right,

let me get the collar

Who was it, Keith?

It was Johnny.

Hey, John, you got two minutes.

What's the purpose of religion?

It wasn't my original thing, but you got me on that one.

I think it's actually linguistic.

It means re-linking, kind of something like that.

No, what does religion

mean to you?

I can't like what I just said, but I think it means you're trying to connect with

that in a invisible thing like behind the chair you're talking behind the door how can we know and that was from my first question is how do you know when to draw along with that nurse very concrete versus there's a human behind the door it's kind of like that invisible that invisible something beyond time and space that a physicist would be talking about normally but we can't at our level like you and me without a very horrible

You describe it.

I'm just like you.

But how do we know?

From your nurse that you talk about very concrete versus David Hughes, which you talked earlier, which is I think the religious part.

Am I making

fun?

Yeah, I think that, you know, the abstraction and our sense of someone said yesterday does our consciousness create our reality?

All right.

Appreciate you.

Let me get this other color because I guess 9 30 call to the program.

Oh, good morning.

Good morning.

I believe the purpose of religion is

you for heaven hell or to live forever on earth I'm gonna hang up and I can't wait to hear your Love you

all

Zebra says that religion, I believe, gives shared community purpose of life and rules for good behavior.

So he's saying that there is the mores that religion promotes.

Again, she mentioned afterlife where what happens to us once we're dead.

Judaism says that either you're resurrected or you're dead Christianity and Christianity becomes a little problematic because Christianity really introduced the Our perception or of heaven and hell right that it was that web and Judaism it was life or death Heaven or hell is reward or punishment, right?

So it depends on how you look at that.

People, yesterday I was listening to Senator Moreno dealing with his ex son-in-law who's been accused of abuse there in Ohio and they're trying to get him to step away as a congressman.

And one of the things he said that that was the seventh level of hell.

Well, if anybody reads Dante, they know that Dante had all these levels of hell.

right?

And he was saying that that was the highest level of hell in terms of his extended laws behavior.

So the idea of religion, I think religion is the shared thing.

Now, I heard someone say this many years ago that human beings have a worship gene, right?

That they have this this gene that says that we need to

Worse is something greater than ourselves and that gets into this this word metaphysics, right?

Metaphysics the word meta means to go beyond and so to even go beyond that and so then it gives people Again, it's the mores.

I mean when you look at if you look at your religious experience They talked a whole lot about moral behavior, right?

You know, you shouldn't send You know and and make sure you don't send

And we weren't always clear on what sin was.

In my mind, sin was what I wouldn't do.

Sin is what right

out does.

Almost every

day.

Almost every day, right?

But understanding that.

And again, that's the thing where...

even in our religious experiences, it goes on the exposure of the person who's teaching on religion, right?

So if you only exposed to certain things, then it gets back to our original thought about him.

Does it exist over and beyond my understanding?

Now, I believe that just because I don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist because it really does.

Like I don't see New York City right now, but New York City exists.

Well, you don't see oxygen with oxygen.

Oxygen exists.

Come

on, man.

It's

offer time for

that

boy.

Oh, sickie, sickie now.

Oh, help us.

Oh,

my, my, my good.

Oh, man.

I was.

Right,

I was blind, but now I can see.

I was today years old when I found out.

Clark had back me

up.

Boy, you know what?

That boy been on the road.

But didn't Jesus say that even though we don't see the wind?

Yeah.

That doesn't mean it don't exist.

That part.

And speaking of Jesus, we need to be more like him.

Who?

So, like, even if you in traffic and somebody flip you off, you should be more like Jesus.

Like, follow him home and flip their tables over.

Be more like Christ.

Flip their tables over and take credit.

It's what Jesus did.

It's what Jesus did.

Alright.

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We're

going to take a quick break and we'll be right

back.

Saeed is the winner.

Exactly.

OK.

And Donovan McKinney, a new member of the Congressional Black Caucus, won once those Detroit votes came in.

And he was a DSA candidate too, but I think.

that his election was more really returning to speak that was formally represented by John Tanya's junior.

It was more returning that seat into the black representation.

So let

me, let's talk about the 800-pound gorilla in the room.

Democratic socialism,

You know now I can get in I do I did a whole political thing on what is socialism that whole piece Right now and this kind of brings us back to where we are here even in the state of Wisconsin you have endorsed County executive David Crowley correct

Okay,

do you think that one there is this

Schism in the Democratic Party where the so-called establishment mainstream Democrats moderate Democrats against progressive Democratic Socialists, is there a schism currently in the party?

No, I you know Hopefully I'm not seeing it as a schism, you know, I I'm not afraid of this word Democratic Socialism as a matter of fact.

I mean when Darren Madison ran against a regular

Democrats, some really, you know, a mayor of a small city here in Wisconsin and so on, who ran to be my state representative.

I endorsed him because I understood what democratic socialism is as opposed to socialism.

I mean, a democratic socialism is still a market system of government, but with strong social programs and regulations.

So, yeah, if you're, you know, anybody's going to be called the socialist if they believe in Social Security, you know, if they believe in the Social Security Black Rancor so that old people can get meals on wheels, if they believe in Medicaid, that automatically makes you a socialist, you know, if you want to regulate markets, if you want, you know, if you want people

investments to be monitored by the Superior Exchange Commission, that makes you a socialist.

So I think that, you know, we need to work out a period in the country, if not the state, where we have to really educate people.

So when people vote for, I think, democratic socialists, they're basically responding to their needs, and their needs for affordability.

But there needs to, you know, there's sense that maybe here's a candidate that will meet my social needs.

And so I think that we got to stop being scared of the word.

That's the exact, go

on.

So do you, usually when you get a rise of populism, and I think that you can look at that from the perspective right now, the Democratic Party, I think you also get that Trump ran on a certain level of populism.

Right.

Let me just kind of throw this in, this kind of being parenthetical.

So when we were on the brink doing COVID and the government pumped all this money into the economy, wasn't that a level of socialism?

If you'd like to call it that, yeah.

And the point I'm getting to is, but Republicans, I don't know any Republican state,

that sent back stimulus money.

I don't know any business that was eligible for the different stimulus monies out there who didn't take advantage of it.

So my question is, why then isn't that socialism?

And the fact that the things that you just outlined that someone would have access to adequate healthcare is socialism and socialism in that pejorative

sense.

is a great example.

But the problem with that example is that, you know, Republicans, after taking the money, they criticized that they blamed inflation, following inflation on the fact that we had pumped so much money into the economy.

They were not happy about those, about the stimulus.

And of course, you know, a lot of people out there go down Trump credit.

for the stimulus.

So he signed it with his big ugly marker and people thought he gave him the money when Democrats fought him and made him sign some of those bills to the bad bill.

And so, you know, socialism is part of our democracy.

It's the mixture of a marketing economy, the strong regulations, and the social programs.

And of course, the Trump administration is trying to dismantle all of our social programs, trying to destroy Medicaid, Medicare, public education, group group.

So, you know, so I thought about this.

You know, you know, I hate the establishment, because the establishment is free speech.

The establishment are having libraries.

The establishment is getting the citizenship every month.

The establishment.

is having Medicaid where your baby can go to the hospital.

The establishment is Medicaid so that your grandmother can go to the nursing home where you can no longer care for her at home, or you can get Medicaid for people at home.

So the establishment, the so-called reviled establishment, right now, the establishment is fighting to preserve all of these institutions for people.

So how do you, you know, to me, it's, you know, Jermaine was just commenting on some of the commercials that's being run against Francesca Hahn here in the state.

How important is it for the Democratic label to be able to define itself and not be defined by Republicans?

Well, first of all, those I'm glad you mentioned the fact that Republicans

are running those negative ads against Francesca Hong.

And that running against them because name recognition is name recognition is name recognition.

They are literally deliberately trying to drive the vote towards Francesca Hong because they perceive that she's the easiest one to debate because of that moniker that she's adopted of being a democratic socialist.

Although it's very likely

that she believes the same thing that other Democrats believe, to a large degree.

You know, wanting public education to be good, wanting healthcare to be good.

But they perceive, and perhaps they're right, that, you know, Coles demonstrated that she had, she was a little bit weaker.

than the other candidates who were on the ballot with regard to winning the general election.

Now, you know, we're not at that point yet because we have David Crowley there.

And, you know, people should not discourage him or some sort of establishment candidate, you know, see somebody that was born in 5306, grew up in Milwaukee Public School, early, early career.

uh, was part of the, uh, the underground, um, uh, what, what it was called.

Urban,

urban underground.

Urban underground.

Really saving youth, uh, uh, you know, before they got in trouble, uh, and really ministering, uh, to other young people who could get caught up in the system and drop out of school.

Um, you know, he was a community organizer.

And then he went to the state.

He's one of us.

We've raised him.

We know him.

And so people should not be concerned that the so-called establishment of a candidate endorsed by the governor somehow won't look out for us meeting public education, meeting health care.

I asked, I had the opportunity to interview four of the Democratic candidates for the nomination on the Democratic side.

And the question I asked them was, what should happen on August 12th, regardless of who wins the race?

So I'll ask you that question.

What should happen on August 12th?

Well, you know, we have a very short runway towards the general election.

because our elections are held so late.

A lot of people, a lot of primaries were done in March, in May.

And so our nominee needs to be known statewide to the wider electorate.

And so we'll have any choice but to try to get together and endorse whoever the winner is.

uh and and work not just endorse them but work because we need this practice that we need to win all three houses in this state in order to level set where we are at in the state um we got some you know the legislature has some serious decisions to make after the we're in the midst in the middle of the Trump era um you know 1.2 trillion dollars

of Medicaid has been cut and the impact that that's going to have on badger care.

I mean, there's going to be a lot of hard decisions that have to be made, no matter who our nominee is.

You know, if we win the governor's race, you know, all of those distinctions about Democrat, Democrat, socialist, Democrat, this or that will disappear because governing will be

the the main thing and you know the concern about who wins the primary is this will you will you help or hurt down ballot in the state will our nominee drag down other people or build up other people in the state so that we can win the senate so that we can win the assembly uh here in the state of the state you know so that we can

So that, you know, one of the biggest complaints that I heard was that Tony was there by himself.

Tony was there with both houses being Republicans.

And so he was, you know, he had his hands tied a lot in terms of the only people he could negotiate with were Republicans.

You know, people got mad.

Oh, he negotiated with the Republic.

Well, they would do it in the majority.

And so.

In order to level set things, we definitely need our nominee to bring along people in other districts.

We need to win more seats in the Assembly and in the Senate.

Do you think that through Tom Tiffany, because prior to all of the, and you can't describe it any other way, but the chaos that happened on the Democratic side, you know, Trump, though he might not be on the ballot,

Trump is still, what would I say, he could be a driving force in terms of turnout, because I just think that this is a turnout election.

If Michigan is any example, just what we saw in the primary where they saw it was a strong turnout, that, you know, the bottom line for people who might tend to support Democrats is that we need to go after anything, anybody that's aligned with

Trump.

Oh, let me just tell you.

is a mother Trump.

He's a member of the so-called freedom caucus.

These are the most right wing, you know, people want to talk about how far left our caucus is.

Think about how far right these are the people that deny women with the death of freedom.

These are people that don't want black people to vote.

These are people, you know,

And Tom Tiffany belongs to the freedom pocket.

I'm a little good to you with a whole lot me.

And, you know, it's, you know, I heard somebody say, boy, if we, if we elect Tom Tiffany, you know, most of us don't be begging for Scott Walker to come back.

So don't you think that that then should be the focus?

Not necessarily who heads the Democrat talk much the Democratic ticket as much as Being making sure that Tom Tiffany does not become governor

Exactly that's the conversation that has to occur on August 12th, you know to your day, you know all hands on deck between time Tiffany

That is much more important than who was the primary, quite frankly.

You know, we have got to have a Democrat governor.

And that's what it started to be.

And not just, you know, with lip service, but actual work that needs to be put in for our nominee.

A few minutes left.

I just see, do you think that the SAVE Act has any chance of passing before you all go on, go on your break?

Well, I hope that Republicans will own in the House and the Senate.

We have very few days that we're in session before the election.

We go back August 31st, and then that's the end of the session where we need to get a budget done for the rest of this year.

So hopefully the clock will run out.

and they won't be able to do that.

There's a lot of resistance to it.

And plus, you know, like they demanded, for example, that we get our state turnover, our voter rolls, to the federal government.

And Tony Evers has refused to do that.

And several states have refused to do that.

So, you know.

There's

even been

some red

states, though.

There have been red states who have refused to give over.

Oh, OK.

Yeah, there has been, and maybe fear precedent that if Republicans do it, maybe Democrats can do it.

But I was surprised that there were a couple of red states that said, no, we're not turning over our voter information.

And I think that there's fear out there that there's, well, let me ask you this question.

Do you think that there will be election interference in the midterm in November?

Well, we're already seeing.

that they're sort of setting the stakes for it.

We saw, I saw last night on TV in Michigan that the Justice Department, if someone had sent monitors to monitor, you know, the Wayne County election collection center, place where, you know, 25% of the votes are, and of course, where black people live in Wayne County.

And they sent people just to stand around.

They didn't interfere, but they standed there.

So, you know, what I'm concerned about is whether they have ice, bring in ice, actively interferes with people coming in to pose or wearing ice uniforms or big masks, standing out of Poland places.

This is what I'm concerned.

about.

So even if you're not, even if you're not an immigrant, even if you're not an undocumented person, if you're brown, you might just decide not to go in to a polling place.

If you're a light-skinned black person, you might decide, nah, I ain't doing

this.

Oh snap.

So it's designed to frustrate turnout, and that's indeed what it will do.

You said you were going to go, but I want to speak before you kick me off.

I want to tell people about, to book my website, goingmore.house.gov, to look out the summer feeding programs where kids can get free meals this summer.

That's very, very important.

I think as we get one in four kids in Milwaukee going home, and I want to make sure I just get that word out.

All right, Congress.

I'm glad I voted early.

Oh, did you

have a swell ballot?

No, no, no,

you would say it

if you were light-skinned.

So I'm glad if

I showed up

at the polling place.

DJ really in trouble.

Well, I know you personally, so you probably would make it.

I don't know.

I don't

know.

I'm so glad we voted early, Lord.

Lord, I'm so glad.

Like, I go to vote.

I don't come home running, so what happened to Keith?

Ice.

Ice.

Yeah, no, you good,

man.

So that's what I'm saying.

So 24,000, a few of them are federal food.

Yes.

Yeah.

And so I want to make sure that the people go to my website, go ahead for that house, stateofusd.gov, find out where they can send their CHP.

for the rest of the summer till school starts.

We just have to bite off this problem one bite at a time till we get to, till we reach the goal.

Well, I appreciate you, Congresswoman Gwen Moore.

Thank you.

Always or always appreciate when you check in.

And thank you for the information.

It's always good.

All right.

Yes,

ma'am.

All right.

Bye.

Bye bye.

You're listening to Community Voice.

We're going to take a quick break.

Hopefully Ice will not come and grab me.

Somebody put it in the chat.

He's thinking about you.

We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back.

The

voice

you hear.

And wait a minute, you brought it up,

right?

Well, I mean, I just figured since y'all was talking about it, did I engage in the conversation?

Your secrets are safe with us right now.

I think so.

Until the next episode.

This dude, boy.

You need to write a book.

No, seriously.

You need to write a book, man.

I swear.

You need to share this with the world.

No, we were having that conversation and Ebony Siley, you can't get it correct, was talking about because she's married to A.U.

Condom.

I am.

And she was talking about her experience and his experience with immigration.

And this was back in the day.

This was, listen, I was a young, bright, whiffer snapper, in love.

And I did.

This is before immigration became like a high-budden issue before ICE was patrolling our streets.

It was always a thing,

because if this was been in the 80s and

90s,

certainly in the 80s, Ronald Reagan was doing his thing.

Listen, I was in love.

I'm sure that there are people who find

Financial gain in in the system much like any other system.

Yeah, right

now

start off.

Yeah

I was good at first.

I just thought he was said he was gonna bury a foreigner But then it gets deeper,

right?

Well, I know that there's always a line

You ever saw that episode on Martin

When Pam had married the landlord for the friend.

Let me just say this.

You have value right out.

You don't have to sell yourself short.

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We were talking to

my

niece

and her friend and one of

her friends and we were talking and We were asking the question

Um, there's a program out there married at first sight.

Yes.

And so, you know, that

ridiculousness.

So it was going.

So I asked Rhonda, I said, Hey, was it love at first sight for you?

You got it.

What you got to do is not ask questions like.

Did you know you're going to get an answer?

Like, if you ask the question, hey, babe, would you do it all over again?

Probably not.

I'm waiting on that one.

No, but you know, her, her response was it wasn't right away.

So the nights of her, go away with it.

I said, so was it three hours?

No.

24 to 48 hours.

You know, I mean, it's because really love is random.

I

don't

believe it.

now oh yeah i do the very first day i ever saw met the man i knew i knew

see

that one love though yeah that

was the

other

ill

word no no no

it became the other ill word it started off

it started off no

i mean there have been instances where and i know we were here to talk about your

We talk about this in the morning.

Healthy is love is healthy.

But no, what I'm saying is

that that part of it is just our animal nature,

right?

That

people that we are, and I'm going to use the term for all you deep religious people who you're sexually attracted to, that's love, right?

Falling in love is sexual.

I was, if that's the case.

Yes.

I think I've been in love a whole lot.

Well, there you go.

There you go.

Because then people get into, can you love?

I'm in love right now.

You can love.

No, no.

I'm in love with my career.

But what

happens is then, you know, because there are other types of love, it can transition into.

And unfortunately, the way that the animal science works is that a lot of times the people we fall in love with are not the people we can nest with.

There you go.

You know what I mean?

Because it's

not really based on anything long

term.

It

really is something short

term.

See, this is counseling.

See him reinforcing what I tell you every two weeks.

I tell you.

See, that's why I may not be having different ones, man, because it's like short term and

I fall in

love for

like a day.

Hey, because I tell you long term, and especially when you codify the long term, IE, you got

a contract.

It's

legal.

Yeah, it is a little bit more difficult to extricate yourself from that relationship.

That's why I...

When I keep lawyers, when I keep lawyers.

Well,

I mean, it gets expensive after it.

It does.

It does.

I mean, but I said cheaper than keeper is in the document.

And you know

what?

I used to hear that.

I thought great little song had no

clue.

I know now.

Do the calculation.

I know

now.

There's some called the bath,

right?

You know, there is.

Because people say, hey, do you counsel people before they get married?

I say, yeah, I do.

But not the way you think.

I mean, there are things out there that can make a healthy relationship.

But you got to remember, I bring my stuff.

She

brings

her stuff.

There's two people there trying to negotiate each other's stuff.