Exploring Celebrity Conspiracies & Mental Health Insights

Good morning. Welcome to Community Voice. I'm your host Keith Parris. I want to thank everybody for joining us this morning. Good morning, Clark Kent. How are you this morning? Hey, man. I'm good. Jamie, how are you this morning? Well, you know, today, Jamie is feeling mighty as well on the inside. Jamie. Is that your club name? Well, you know, that's my jiggaloo name. You know, I'm a part-time jiggaloo.

I heard the most incredible conspiracy conversation

You agree with him. I'm just saying. So let's roll this back. I agree with what? Let's roll this back. Jamie claims he wanted to know that they killed Michael Jackson because he wrote the song. They don't really care about us. They don't care about us.

believe it. Yeah. See, and Clark agrees with this. This is not what happens. Well, you never know. And he did call Tommy Metolo the devil, but that ain't what happened. But but his addiction killed him. Well, well, who gave him the dish? His doctor. And who was the doctor saved by? He he found the doctor.

He found the doctor that he found it. He found the doctor He found the doctor who would prescribe him that purple fall or or Did he put it then it gets him better They kill Prince too

They did. They did. I believe it, man. Where there's a wheel. How come black people just can't die? Well, you know, it is so difficult for black people just to die. Well, it's just hard for me because... It killed Michael Jackson. Yeah, man. I believe because he was too powerful and he was starting to...

You know, step out of line as the folks are saying, you gotta line, boy. And that's what happened. He started to- They wasn't gonna kill Michael Jackson. He had just signed to do 50 dates in London. Yeah, but he also said that this was to laugh. Dude. He also said that this was to laugh. The last thing you wanna put on Michael Jackson was he was a revolutionary threat. Wait, no, because he had the people's ear. He's a powerful icon.

So, when you have a powerful icon going against a machine- Anybody else didn't kill? Oh, yeah. So, a whole lot of people they didn't kill. K-I-L-T. Two bucks. Two bucks and Biggie was, that was, that was a strategic move by the system, man, because these are cats that had the people's ear. So, if you got the, like Martin Luther King.

Four four four four five two five zero is there anybody out there that's a green would ride out That Prince and Michael Jackson was killed Okay, I can and biggie's different But was killed because they were a threat to the man

Yeah, I'm telling you because listen Michael just bought the Beatles catalog right now. He's had the Beatles catalog for a while So I remember that when he did that he did that interview and he was talking about Tommy He was talking about how these people there was Tommy Motolo. He was doing going back and forth with Sony or whoever he was Yeah, now, you know Tony there was a big wig. I mean a major big wig and married to Mariah Carey. Yeah

Okay, so obviously no one agrees because nobody's called so And you know what it's my fault for even bringing it up And I was just sitting here just kind of listening and they just casually just throwing conspiracies out there. Yeah anybody else Well, of course Martin Luther they were about the revolution. Yeah, but

But still, when you're powerful, if you had a had a Mount Rushmore of revolutionary profits, Prince Michael Jackson would not even be in the same state. That is true. However, however, if you had a Mount Rushmore of people that could influence and cause the people to turn, they most definitely would be on them. Then that would be Marilyn Manson, right?

What yeah, I mean, you know, he didn't have a man to get sued because some kid was listening to his music and committed suicide. Well, yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, okay. Just so we're clear Prince and Michael Jackson succumbed to drug overdoses That's a hard pill to swallow for me man because I was with them too

Good morning. How are you?

I'm pretty good, pretty good. I was just gonna say, let's not forget about Whitney Houston. What happened to her? Whitney Houston. Oh boy, there's another one. Yeah, man. Yeah, Whitney Houston. There's a CEO, I think of Sony Records, Clyde Davis. Yeah. Yeah, I think he was coming from a lot of murders and intersting. He's always, always, always used to us before we looked. Yeah. Yeah. That's all I wanted to say.

Yeah, so one for right now But listen because they don't want to get charged with murder so they have to they have to strategically do it like puffy Can't nobody tell me but yeah, yeah, no, but puffy has something to do with Kim's death. He has something to do with Albee Sorghum sick Yes, I'm gonna do with all of that man. How about Albee sure just being fat. No, but

But it wasn't the fat thing that got him in the hospital. It was it was what they gave him. I'm sure it contributed to him. That cat had pneumonia. Heavy D? Hey, you'd be surprised, man. I'm telling you that you'd be surprised. The industry is evil, man. It's evil. But you but you don't kill your moneymaker. No, but yes, you do because if you got insurance on them,

I'm with that because I still believe that that should night had something to do with Tupac tonight. Well, Puffy Puffy and it's on record. You can look this up. Puffy said after this whole thing, he was like Tupac, Biggie. I don't care who they are. One of them got to go. Puffy said that. Yes. And you can look it up, bro. It's it's

So good he a jail. Yeah, it's on the record, man. When is he scheduled to get out? I don't know, man, but. And when is Robert Kelly scheduled to get out? So they gave Kelly 37 years, man. And that's crazy because.

For a child molestation. What was it child molestation? Oh, wait, wait, wait The bed the bed the bed set him up, right? We have a parent we have a parent that would bring your child. Okay, your child 13 years old and you will leave them there to with a grown man See the problem with conspiracies call and welcome to

Most of us would okay, but they got to do a conspiracy. That's just good parody Yeah

I believe Kanye West mother was also done away with the mistakes he had made against Bush. These are people that go in for just some old cosmetic surgeries that they did in the past. And I'm not saying the mistakes don't happen. Then she had a cosmetic surgery in Brazil.

I can't hear you. Then she had a cosmetic surgery in Brazil. I don't care what it did. The establishment will go in a cave, man. The cave of poverty, man, and find you if they really, really desired to have you. So Kanye made that statement about how Bush was, and what, about a month later, so his mother went in for that cosmetic surgery. She passed away. In Brazil. John Williams made a conversation about,

We have the first transgender in the White House. Yeah, Joan Rivers was in her 80s. But with John Rivers, she was in her 80s, but she had had that kind of operation many times before.

So I just thought I would throw that in. Well, thank you for throwing that in. I'm ready to throw it out. All right, I got you. I got you. You throw it in, I'm ready to throw it out. All right, welcome to the program. Somebody come over and pray for you. You can pray where you're right. You know, if it gets through. Let's have a good old fashioned prayer meeting up there at the station. You want to invite me to Bible study. You know what my pastor used to say?

He says, some prayers don't get beyond the prayer loft. Hey, get something down. Get something. All right. Call and welcome to the program. Did y'all? Yeah. So let's hope this list is expanded. We started with Michael Jackson in Prince. Then we get to Joan Rivers and Kanye's mama.

Now the one thing that Joan Rivers and Kanye mama have in effect. They both had cosmetic surgery It's where they had the cosmetic surgery because my understanding was she had her Cosmetic surgery she being Kanye's mom in Brazil and it's complications from that But I don't know why I'd go to Brazil when we had some of the best cosmetic surgeons in the world right here in America But maybe that was a conspiracy You just never know man, um

You never know but I mean, you know how this system is set up We would have never found out that Martin Luther King and Malcolm X was being set up if that information didn't leak Well, I grew up doing that time and I was a kid and people kind of knew the government was certainly it was funny you hear about how

right now, you know, Trump alleged that the Biden administration had weaponized the Department of Justice. Anybody who was around in the 60s and 70s and probably even in the 50s knew that the FBI, which is part of the Department of Justice, really had been weaponized to go after civil rights leaders, to go after student activists, people who were against the war. And when I heard that, it was like it wasn't the first time.

Now, the difference probably is this time around this president is used to go after his enemies. Now, Nixon had an enemy's list. He put the IRS on him. He put other people on him. So that's real. But this wasn't the first time now that the Justice Department had been weaponized against U.S. citizens. As a matter of fact, one of the things that happened with the church committee

was that a lot of the stuff that the CIA was doing, they could no longer do stateside. So who was the guy? I remember this, I think it was in the 80s. It was like the mid 80s, late 80s in Philadelphia, when they had blew up the house. Wilson Good was mayor, it was move. Yeah.

So how they, how they went about that whole thing. One of my classmates was watching them and following them the whole time. One of my classmates ended up going to work for Wilson Good. And he's in Philly today. Yep. Yep. Yeah, that was move. And he definitely, you know, everyone says that the Gap man drop a bomb on me is about Tulsa. But they definitely dropped a bomb on me. I mean, they burned down. And if anybody's ever been out east, especially in cities like Philly,

Is row houses right right and so the whole block. Yeah, they just basically blew up the whole block so dealing with move for them to to actually do that And they was trying to eliminate a powerful black voice They try to eliminate it by destroying That particular property and pretty much everything around it and anybody who was in that house So you have the government knows a

Well, there's ways to shut it down. It says, how would you go about doing it? Yeah, but the kids end up dying. It was horrific. And then they show you how things work. Then they end up charging the members of move. So make it make sense because they're not the ones that have created this whole fire. They didn't create none of that. But for them to be in the house and that house to get bomb like that.

And then I believe from one of the survivors, because I was watching the story, she said how they was running out the house and you tried to kill everybody in that house because you wanted them to be silent. Epic moves Milwaukee says, right out of speaking truth, all them things did and is happening in the industry. I'm telling you, man, listen.

Why would you it seems to be Rather self-defeating that if you can eat because of somebody why would you kill them if you could eat because of because you can eat like If I don't have to pay you anymore and I get all of the residuals There's a record in most cases most people have signed away. No, no, no Yeah, a lot of times people have signed away. You know that no, but I'm talking about now They got these contracts now people are still signing away there

they still are signing away. Look, and I would agree with this, the industry lawyers are very good, but most people are not reading the fine print. Well, yeah, because you so intrigued about that money number, so you see that money number first. Exactly. So you see that first and then you don't read anything else. But there's a record company right now. I forgot the name of it. I think it's, I want to say CG something. I forgot the name of the record company, so I don't want to say the wrong name, but there's a record company out here.

That once they sign they artists they take out an insurance policy. I mean, yeah, everybody not every record company does that This particular record company does that because though the rappers that they sign are drill rappers and they know man That is only a limited time. What kind of rappers drill rappers and drill rappers are are the ones that that rap about you know death

like say like if I kill you, I mean I put out a song say, hey man, I'm smoking on Keith. Would you take out if you knew that the actuary of these guys is because they talking violence that they might greet violence? Yeah, but why sign these people to promote the violence? Because it's making money. Because at my point, my point, so if you are no longer alive,

the portion that I'm paying you, I no longer have to pay. So now everything that's coming to me, cause I own you. If I'm working for you and I'm making you a lot of money and I decide to go to ride out, ride out, give me a little better deal or something, give me something. I got my own rights and everything. And I decide to leave you. You think you ain't going to go here though? Cause that show, you know, that show money. That show big fish.

So you say it to me that the current owners of WNOV, if I decide to take my town with the WGOB, they're going to put a hit out on me? Well, it depends. No, no, no, seriously. It depends on if you are the big fish and if that company is evil-like. Mariela, I know you listen. I'm not leaving.

I don't want you killed at me. No, don't you weep. But that is how it is, though. Don't you weep, Mary. No, no, no. But that's how it is. I know. You heard what I have to keep, right? You can give me a beer and make that move. Oh, Burlai. And oh my god. I was smoking on pear. Well, let me thank everybody for being part of the conspiracy moment here on Community Voice.

I appreciate that. I appreciate you. Boy, everything and nothing. But it's my fault because, again, I should have been ear hustling. Y'all just so casually throwing it back and clock going, yelp, yelp. It's real, man. I'm telling you it's real. You're listening to Community Voice. At the bottom of the hour, we'll be doing Be Healthy Be You. You all keep it locked. We'll be right back.

Causing it or something else going on so you want to kind of Tailor it to the person as well And then to add to that of course With all the varieties of different mental illness, I think that a because people Don't talk about it as much although we are starting to

get some traction with it now, which is wonderful. But because people don't talk about it, I think the numbers that are listed are far less than what it is in reality because people are frightened to talk about these things, whether it's because of jobs or family members or, you know, just in themselves not wanting to open up and talk about those things. And then the other part of it is a lot of other things can affect your mental health too, right? So there's lots of medical conditions.

like anemia and thyroid disease and all these other things where someone can be having raging anxiety and didn't realize that they haven't had normal thyroid hormone level. Um, so, you know, again, or people who are dealing with long-term illness might lead to depression, you know, because it just seems like I'm not I'm in this the spiral and I just can't seem to get out. I was thinking the other day. It's kind of crazy. Um, but I was thinking about

Charles Manson and and and the reason why I was thinking I was going that there's a difference Between someone like Charles Manson Charlie Manson everybody knows he's just just recently died But he was more of a sociopath Than someone who was dealing with you know psychotic behavior, right? I mean which gets to how our environment can impact our mental health and our behavior

controlled by our brain, right? Yeah. Definitely. I think you're, I think you're, I mean, you're alluding to the nature versus, uh, nature versus nurture debate. And, um, it's, it's, it's extremely valid. Uh, and I think that

It's just my little opinion here, but I do think that the nurture part plays that massive role. So even if nature is dictating something going on, I think that if the people around you and you're in the right group of folks and get the right resources and maybe medication or whatever it is that you are needing in severe cases, I think the outcome can still be good.

We're all third world people. Well, I say third world, but, you know, our culture certainly has an impact on our mental health. This guy Ralph Wiley wrote a book a few years ago. Sometimes it makes you want to holler, right? I mean, you know, you were talking about the whole nurture piece of our environment, our culture, our religion. All those things can contribute, and I'll use the word mental health, right?

Yeah, yeah, okay. Now, you don't know we're on radio so therefore You're alluding to the entire nature of all things so it's not only in the home. It's outside the home. It's the community and and that's why the

Having events and making sure that we're checking in on each other and being open and honest About how we're feeling I feel like a lot of people tend to pretend like everything is sunshine and rainbows on a day-to-day because maybe they're embarrassed or they just Feel too proud to talk about it. Well, and what I'm getting to is there's an enormous You guys are doctors, right? I don't know how much of that is

Culturally driven in terms of you being a doctor But I do know for for instance, I knew people who They were they were achieving right but the pressure that goes along with it right and then you don't want to be the person who lets You know your people down right that's that can impact your mental health, right? Yeah, no, I I think like

there's um someone I know was their their niece or someone was doing a experiment in school and like you're talking about the environment affecting you as a person and your mental health and her niece basically took two plants the same plants same type of soil everything and she decided to do um put one plant

and speak positively to it and give it sunlight and water and everything. And give the other plant same sunlight, same water, same nutrients, everything like that, but speak negatively to it. And the one that she spoke negatively to started to die. And so it's not just what you do on yourself on the inside, but like things around you can affect.

You internally and you just don't think that that plays a major role and like you said our society now like we have a lot of pressure being in Physicians and high stress careers A lot of things get thrown at you and you can't really stop that Like flow of all the stuff coming at you, but you can build healthy coping mechanisms to help deal with it better

And also, physicians, all physicians are not the best at this either. So it's a conversation that is happening within the medical community as well, because there are a lot of people, you know, you get, I have to see, you have to go from patient to patient to patient, you know, you're trying to take a breath or just be a human. It becomes a little bit is, you know, suppressing those feelings. So it's important.

for it in every realm it affects every realm everywhere and Even like sometimes and it's not every physician even feels comfortable talking about mental health always with patients and that's facts and so you know just

Making sure I think that if the community has these conversations and it becomes more normalized Slowly then that seeps into every avenue and it makes everybody feel more comfortable You're an alluded to it earlier, but We're moving I think sometimes glacially Towards you know having these conversations, right? And I'm gonna use the word okay

But what I mean is not it should be condemning because you might be dealing with some mental health issues Yet, you know for a lot of us, you know, let's put them in the attic. Let's or we ignore it They'll grow out of it. So there's a significant number of people who are walking around with undiagnosed

mental health challenges right yeah absolutely I think that's where primary care plays a really huge I think that's where primary care plays a huge role in helping to

build these trusting relationships with patients so that they feel comfortable talking about them and you're able to identify what's going on with the patient and see how you can help them better because a lot of people don't like to talk about it and they think it's like a weakness instead of a strength. But you know, if you again, if you break your leg, you immediately go to the doctor, you're not going to try to like walk it off. So why not?

go to the doctor for these things too. This is not a stigma attached to a broken leg. That's true, that's true. But like you said, we're moving at a gear to get there. Right, you know, and I, you know, just being able to, to be able to, because, you know, when you talk about this thing, because the brain is, you know, it's the, literally the nerve center is controlling everything. And our state of mind, a lot of times, impacts.

how we deal in this environment, right? And you hit the nail on the head with what you just said. You know, that stigma, that stigma that holds us so tightly, I make it a point when I'm talking about anxiety, depression with people or any other mental health thing going on, I say, this is no different than any other chronic condition. Everybody knows people with diabetes, with high blood pressure, with all these other things. Okay.

Diabetes, for example. You need to watch your blood sugars. You need to eat healthy. You need to exercise. Some people need to take insulin injections. Some people need to take pills. Some people do well with just exercise and eating healthy.

in and of itself. Everybody is unique. There's the diabetic category, but each person's treatment plan is different because everybody has different circumstances and different genetics and it's a partnership and we work with it. Now, if those same people don't do the things that they need to do, what happens? They lose their limbs, they can go blind, they can have heart attacks and strokes.

different than anxiety and depression. It is a chronic condition. Anxiety, depression, bipolar, all the things. They're chronic conditions and they need a treatment plan that is unique to them. They need medication. They need therapy, talk therapy. They need exercise, eating healthy, doing things like positive affirmations and meditation and you know working on what works for you. But I think if everybody can have that outlook

say okay here are different spectrums of chronic conditions and as long as you're open for the treatment and the tools in your toolbox to help you fight it. And one of the great things about the Affordable Care Act was that it put mental health care on the same level as regular physical health care right because I can remember

your HMO would give you X number of visits. Where if I broke my leg, literally unlimited in terms of dealing, making sure I'm healed, right? You may or may not be able to in three or four or five sessions be able to really adequately deal with a mental health challenge. So in some ways, but I think again, as you said, glacial, we just have to move that it's okay to get help. I mean, the same way with like some people, even with

actual chronic other medical conditions like even diabetes or high blood pressure. Some people want to just try lifestyle and diet and exercise and all those things, but it's harder. Like they're more hesitant to try medication for it. So there's a stigma around medication too. So it's kind of similar in that sense. So we're moving glacially, but I think it all starts with the basic foundation of trust and working with the patient and

what's best for them. You have a call? Carla, welcome to the program. Good morning. Good morning. Yeah, good morning, Keith. Thanks for taking my call. Good morning, ladies in the studio. Thanks for being there. Thank you. Good morning. Good morning, Mr. Rideout. Good morning, Clark. Good morning, Milwaukee. Tyrone W speaking. A couple of different things here. Good morning, Vivian King. Another one of my favorite people there on the previous show there.

I tried to call in. She had too many interviews there, so I couldn't get through it. I'll catch up with you there when I can, but have a nice event on the 15th. Probably won't get there this year, but it sounds good. I'll try to get there in upcoming events there. I was going to say a couple of different things. Big corporation, you know, I mean, it's just greed all over the place. I pretty much kind of know the answers. Greed, but big corporation, I mean, is it to the point to where overload is just part of the modern day?

I mean, workplace like, you know, okay, be flexible, but yeah, we want you to do this, this, this, this, this. I mean, you're doing 10 different things, man. By the end of the day, I mean, you just burn. So, I mean, just work overload. I mean, instead of spreading, you know, the staff and team members, you know, spread it around there, illustration would be, well, of course, you got one governor, but then you've got several mayors, you've got several other people.

Now, all those people should be able to report to the governor. I mean, as far as changing command is concerned, you know, all the person to the mayor and different things like that. There are different departments and things like you have a treasure and different people, you know, like that. They're reporting to the governor and then, you know, brainstorming and working things out there. So it just seems to me like as a country, we have gotten bogged down with overload. And then we say, well, you know,

even with the military, you know, smoke them if you got them. Well, that's the worst thing you can tell them to do because they need to be healthy in order to be able to hold the line. And so all these different things that we see, the youngsters vaping and everything, literally seeing a young lady, I said, she was the young man, he was handling her okay. But the young lady, she went to vaping and she started choking. I said, are you choking? Are you choking? She said, no, I'm not. She almost coughed up a lung, you know, I'm like, man.

Human beings have always had to deal. Yeah, I mean just corporation overload and

I think you make a valid point. I do. I think that in general, lots of organizations, a lot of people, doctors included, everybody is on that hamster wheel of like, all right, we got to get things done, got to get things done. And then we're not actually addressing or even recognizing because you're so busy how you are actually feeling. So I would urge you to

advocate for yourself no matter what workplace that you're in to advocate and take that moment and if you feel that you need therapy and if you feel that you need um like a mental health day whatever it is you know advocating for yourself to make sure that you're practicing um important healthy coping mechanisms and

Also talking to your doctor about it if you talk to your doctor about it and you know you say to your doctor Hey, I really want to do talk therapy. I'm struggling and my job won't let me do that Well best believe your doctor is gonna write you a note and if they don't find a new doctor who will Who will say this is important part of your care plan to allow my patient to Have a healthy coping mechanism and and to thrive with their chronic condition

So it's conversation and advocacy, I think. You're listening to Be Healthy BU. We're joined in studio by Dr. Sabrina Ali and Dr. Christina Comaran. They are with the Ascension All Saints Family Health Center. Today we're talking about mental health and we'll take a quick break and we'll be right back.

Back and we're inside be healthy be you were joined by dr. Sabrina Ali and dr. Christina come around and They're here talking about mental health and we're gonna talk about an event that's happening At the end of the month. We were having these conversations off You know that that that whole mental It's kind of stuff of words that whole mental piece is big and we were talking about Depression

and that dark place that people, and a lot of times I could tell you my own experience was I didn't know who to turn to. I never thought maybe I should go and talk to a doctor. Maybe it is, we used that word earlier, stigma, and not wanting people to go like, because I can tell you, in the community I grew up with, when they called you crazy,

That wasn't cool. Yeah, you know, I mean it and it's obviously not a clinical term It's just how we describe it. We talk about what people who are trying to manage their depression You're hitting on the also that Men don't cry and men need to be tough and men that keep your business to yourself and not say anything and No men can cry you want a real life

story. My father was killed when I was 10 and my mother and father were divorced but so I come home from school and my mom said I need to see you in the bedroom. Now normally my mom call you in the bedroom that's usually not good. And so she called me in and she said I got a letter from your aunt and she said

your dad was killed in Kentucky. Now, really, I didn't have much of a relationship with him, but I just started crying. I'm 10. My mother says, stop crying. Men don't cry. I was 10. Now, I know she meant well. Yeah. You know, we don't want to raise soft boys. And so after that, it was very difficult for me to cry because my mom had told me

that, you know, men don't cry. I'm sorry you had to go through that and experience that. I remember you mentioned this last year as well and I, it's giving tools to kids so they grow up.

and they know how to respond in those situations. I reckon your mom didn't have the tools, you know, to talk about that mental health piece of it or, you know, navigate those things. I don't think she even thought about that. Yeah. I think she was probably, and then it probably hurt her to see me cry. Right. So there was probably a lot going on there in terms of that. Yeah, of course. It's hard. But, you know, and depending on the kid, it could, obviously, there's one of those traumatic

moments in your life. Um, but I'm just saying that you're right in terms of the culture and especially when it comes to men. I mean, it's not just mental health. You know, men regularly seeing a doctor, right? Because especially if you came up in sports, you know, you, you get out. I was listening to someone talk about, they were talking about how Vince LaVardy was talking about toughness. And he said, oh, you injured one leg, you have another one, you know, you know, just take it. But this ability to be able to, you know, something is wrong.

I think the next step is how do we reach out for the help that we need? And know that it's okay, you know, to reach out. I think it's a good thing that, like you said earlier, like we're moving at a glacial pace. I think knowledge is power and educating the next generation and young boys that it's okay to cry, like start early.

really try to show them that they don't need to internally isolate themselves like that really helps because then you're going to pass that down the line and it's going to have like a ripple effect. So is it different than we're raising the girls differently? I think we should be raising all of our children with that mentality and also you know it's the

What do they say? What's that phrase? Monkey see, monkey do, yeah? You know, so it's so important that even as adults, even if we weren't given those tools, even if we, you know, we don't know really how to manage our feelings, our stressors, you know, we're running around doing a million things, you're grocery shopping, you're working, you're cooking, you're kids screaming at, you know, help or, you know, what, I need this or I want this or they're crying.

You know, it's overstimulating. So in learning as a parent, as just an adult in society, how to do these things, then the younger generations see you. Okay. Dad's really upset and overstimulated. He...

takes a moment and he does a guided meditation or dad takes a moment and he does a couple deep breathing exercises or mom is really when she's really upset um she says she needs just you know a couple minutes of quiet and I don't know what she likes to do adult coloring you know all the different things or oh hey kiddo um I have therapy today um

You're gonna be with, I don't know, mom, uncle, aunt, whoever for an hour. I'm gonna do therapy for an hour. Letting them see how you respond to stressors. Yeah. Yeah, I think that, you know, we find ourselves in a society where, you know, we...

It's kind of a different world now in some ways where people are more apt to expose themselves I don't know if that's healthy But what way can you elaborate expose? You know what you know the internet, you know with social media we share a lot of intimate Details in our lives that in the past maybe not so much

You know, I mean in our household we whatever happened in that house stayed in the house We didn't want it outside the house And I think that that that's the idea what with What mental illness, you know, we're talking about parents and children But you know really in relationships that a lot of times I'm smiling because I'm you made me think of like a memory of childhood You ain't kidding with telling people outside the house. Oh my goodness

I don't even know where it happened. I think me and my brother might have gotten into an argument. We were a real little and my sister was there and she was babysitting us and we couldn't get hold of my mom. It was before cell phones and whatever. So I called my aunt and you know, whatever. And so I told my aunt, you know, my mom came up and said, why did you tell your aunt? I had gotten so much trouble.

You know, tell what's going on. Oh, my grandmother. My mother wouldn't. I couldn't go and tell my grandmother what was happening. My mother was. And I don't know. So I don't know how you strike a balance. You know, there is the importance of catharsis where we're able to release.

And we have different things to do that decompress. But I think if we're dealing with some challenges, and again, some of them are neurological, right? That's why you really want to go and talk to a doctor. It really could be neurological. Some of it really could be environmental where it triggers. Grief is one of those emotions that can trigger all kind of mental responses.

And as you were speaking, talking about men again, working with fathers, and these are primarily fathers who are descendants of enslaved Africans, one of the emotions that people could express was anger. We can express anger. Absolutely. And then men especially. And so as opposed to how you hear that term anger management,

But it's one of those things, but when it comes down to things like empathy and some of these other things, men are kind of talk to. And I think that's why that anger builds up, you know, because we don't have those healthy coping mechanisms to navigate our emotions and it builds up. Well, let me ask you, when you say coping, is there a difference when I say coping as opposed to treatment?

Um, so when I say like coping mechanisms are part of a treatment plan, you know, it's it's one of the many things that you can so there's unhealthy coping mechanisms and there's healthy unhealthy can be you know, I'm not talking about a building things up and maybe punching a wall, you know, um the angry type

things that you're talking about here, then there's also reaching for substance use, you know, alcohol, things like that, things that feel maybe numb you in the moment. You just, I don't want to deal with that. I don't want to think about it. There's too much happening at once. I can't. So there's all those kinds. And then there's healthy coping mechanisms like, you know, positive affirmations and coloring and therapy and

exercise and journaling and meditation. Yeah. So there's a lot. There's a lot. And I always and I do mental health virtual visits with my patients and do talk with them through different supportive psychotherapy techniques, which includes these mechanisms, right? And I always say, please don't feel bad. You know, I heard in my feelings, if you don't like to journal, it's okay.

And I say this because people think that, oh, it doesn't work for me, and there's nothing else I can do. That's it. I'm done. I tried. But there are so many different things that you can try. And eventually, you will find something that works. Well, you know, you were when you talk about the positive affirmation, I kept thinking, Al Franken's role on Saturday Night Live, Stuart Smalley, you're good enough. You're smart enough. You know, I mean, I misquoted that looking in the mirror.

And some of these things, like I said, is trying to pinpoint it could be a little bit difficult, because how much of it is, again, your nature, how much of it is just your nature, your environment, and being able to manage it. So you talk about the importance of one, and we said all the time on Be Healthy BU, you need a primary physician.

If you're at a certain age, I know part of the Medicare wellness checkup is they ask you some questions about what your mental state is. So let's talk about this event that you're having. Yay! Okay, I'll introduce it and then fill in whenever you'd like. Sure. So wellness wonderland!

I am really excited and really proud to say that this is the fourth one. I started this a couple years ago and there's just a little baby thought I had and they wanted to you know spread this importance of mental health. I know maybe people in my life are like oh my god you in the mental health again but

because it's just so important. So crazy. There you go. There you go. But you know, so started this couple years back, got some people on board and it's been growing and growing and growing every year, which is fantastic. So Wellness Wonderland is a mental health fair in essence. And so half of the event is teaching folks how to deal with

stressors of life. And so we partner with a lot of different wonderful organizations, which I'm going to shout out in a little bit, but where you could people of the community can go from place station to station to station learning about different things like art therapy, animal therapy, and aroma therapy, yoga, meditation, taking advantage of this whole animal therapy thing.

you know i mean it's like a lot of these is you know yeah pets everywhere now yeah and i don't know okay not not looking at their medical record i mean animals do provide a lot of good support for folks you know they're real cool cool and calm and zen and you know they may not be for everybody

Can you try to tell me I can't bring my doggy in here? I don't have a doggy. No, I mean, you know, you're in places and you see people and this dog is an instant therapy dog. Yeah. You know, but there's no...

If if you knew that this person had XYZ condition and and this thaw was vital to them to keep them Relaxed maybe in an overstimulated environment. You know more people who are dealt with post traumatic stress Yeah, yeah, I'm having a bad a bad doggy or other mental health Alright, you gotta pass Thank you. Okay, so the they will go people will go through the different stations. They'll learn about all the different

things they collect coins and then they get to spend the coins and that's my little incentive on the carnival side and on the carnival side this year we have a dunk tank we have big inflatable carnival games basketball ski ball baseball we also have a bunch of the like you know down a clown and those other

toss games. We also have we're giving away free backpacks and school supplies and food, desserts, yeah all the things. So I am super excited. I think this is a great way to bring the community together and also work towards breaking that stigma and because all the families are coming they're bringing

other friends and their children you're really like you're so happy about this and I think it's gonna be really fun. Thank you. It's the first time I'm gonna see it hopefully. Yeah. She she also is so after she's done with my rotation community medicine she's segwaying into emergency medicine rotation so I told her if you emergency medicine so I told her I was like if you are feeling tired

So we have to do hospitalist training as part of, yeah. She has a shift, and she finishes at 6 a.m. or something. It's one of the great additions, I think, to health care. It's hospitalists in the emergency room. Hospitalists really kind of saved my life.

I'm a big fan of hospital. Yeah, but also like to add to the the wellness wonderland. I think Like when we see family physicians, we just think of them as like you go to them You see them they prescribe you medications for what you need and you leave but Dr. Ali is really like part of like her passion is community medicine and It's more than just one patient that you see in a room. She's

bringing the community together and also there's so many resources now I'm learning that she knows that she's not just helping with the med like the health part of it she's helping them legally or with therapy and like all the other sponsors that are coming she has so many resources that patients come in and they're like oh I have to deal with this thing in court and she's like I have someone for that or I have you know like

anxiety and depression, but also I'm trying to have a child, but I have substance abuse history. Oh, I have someone for that. You are so sweet and kind, and I appreciate you saying all those things. And I'm glad that you're having a good experience. Yeah, because I'm seeing that there's so much more to community medicine than just seeing a patient. We're hearing this term holistic.

The more holistic approach, not just because everything impacts on everything else.

There's an intersectionality that we deal with in life. Things that we are thinking not connected, but they are connected. One chronic condition affects the other. So if your anxiety and depression is not under control, then you're less likely to have your diabetes under control and your high ball pressure under control. Because maybe I don't have the motivation to be careful about what I'm eating or take my medication on time or go for a walk, which I need to do and exercise.

you know if you there are all blended they're all together yeah because if you're dealing with you just you're just talking about it where if I'm dealing with financial

Financial crisis then it's gonna impact my mental health. Yeah, I mean that they all they all affect each other So I hope everybody comes on down and finds me At the at wellness wonderland It is on August 29th from 12 to 4 p.m. At our clinic ascension the family health center 2400 West billard

Avenue, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 532-09.

If I could, I'd love to shout out some of my wonderful partners really quickly. So, Anthem has has is one of our newer partners this year. Shout out to Rita and also Leroy Butler. Surprise will be coming to Wellness Wonderland this year. So, for all you Packer fans, please come on down. He'll be there sitting at a table. He'll also be, can I

say he'll be coming on with us. Okay. All right. I was like, let me check in with the boss first. Um so, Leroy Butler is going to also be joining us on on WNOV with Keith on August 25th. Um talking about mental health again and wellness wonderland. Um and so, I'm real excited that they're joining us this year and Rita is one of the people who works with Anthem and has been such a light

of sunshine, a ray of sunshine rather, and just been doing all the things in the community. So I really appreciate her. And then we have Roger's Behavioral Health, Wisconsin Academy of Family Physicians, Mr. Dye's Pies. He has been in it since the beginning, Mr. Jonathan Dye. And he donates his delicious pies every year. WPS Reptiles, Friends of Lincoln.

Park, Milwaukee County Children's Disabilities Program. Milwaukee Police Department is coming and volunteering with their community ice truck this year, ice cream truck this year. So that was really neat. And then Mounted Patrol. And then the fire department comes with a fire truck and festival foods.

We also have our folks in many different avenues within Ascension, from our resident physicians to attending physicians to just our medical assistants, our front desk staff. A lot of people are volunteering for this event, and I appreciate everybody. I have a community partner nurse, Jenny Olvide, or Ovide, rather. And she is fantastic, superhuman. She'll also be there, too.

um the city of Milwaukee health department's coming out um what else who else am I missing here outposts natural foods um and Weber's greenhouse just let me know that they were going to be donating some plants and we're going to do like a plant therapy station so yeah we have a lot of uh amazing folks working hard to put this all together so I hope everybody comes out

Again, the date, time, and location. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Oh, also, Barbara Koga is one of our sponsors this year as well. And I will say my fiance, Sean, is also been working hard to help me with it. So he starts a shout out. Or you keep, Sean. So it's going to be, you want to say, go ahead.

you want me to I let me see 2400 West Villard Avenue Milwaukee 53209 there you go and the Ascension Family Health Center outside you won't miss it. We actually yell St. Michael's. 12 to 4 p.m. Yes that's right. Well it was certainly nice meeting you.

Thank you. Nice meeting you too. Always good seeing you. Nice to see you as well. And again, give us the the event, the time. Wellness Wonderland. August 29th, 12 to 4 p.m. Anything else other than we look forward to having Leeward Butler here. Thank you. Thank you for that. You're welcome. No, I'm excited to continue the conversation and you know, just keep advocating everybody please.

Dr. Sabrina Ali, Dr. Christina Kumaran, again, of the Ascension All Saints Family Health Center. Appreciate you. Thank you. I guess, wait, last note. Shout out to Ascension and the Ascension Family Residency Program. But thank you for having us and giving us this opportunity to talk about mental health and thank you so much. You're listening to Community Voice.

We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. All right, welcome back. Hey, they got my phone working.

Yeah somebody call me 4144445250414 so I can identify we have a caller so you give me a call 41444452504145250 man don't give out the other number bro come on you gotta have the hook up to get the other number come on bro

That's what would actually come out. Oh man, that woman on the south side. That's crazy. That is nuts. I'm sure the family, if she has family is going to, you know, go make a claim against the city and they're investigating, but man, I mean,

She posted I can't get up button and they didn't come and it was what two to three hours and Man and then the dude and talk about mental health. He was still there. Yeah, but he was obviously and that's that's the thing because There are people who are going around when I diagnosed mental health challenges Because we have decentralized mental health care, which means we don't always institutionalize as the community care

Community care now is up then to the individual to make sure they avail themselves to the treatment for treatment take their medications a lot of people don't like how the medication makes them feel so then they have their app to not want to take the medication But so that's the world that we're living in if you look at the number of people in prison Many of them there because of mental health issues. They committed a crime, but you know they

They were dealing with some mental health challenges. And so it's just a lot easier to incarcerate them than it is to treat them. But as I was thinking about that, I read biographies, man. That's what I do. I love biographies, love people's backgrounds. And when I was reading the book on Charles Manson, it became obvious that this dude was not really dealing with neurological issues. It was the environment. As a matter of fact, he said, look,

It was the prison system that created me. That's a sociopath, right? That is different. Society creates that. And in some ways, society is creating certain people with sociopathic kind of behavior when you get into... Yeah. I'm sorry. Yeah, because they're all kind of interesting what she said earlier about the two plants.

And one talks nicer than the other one does. And I was like, mm. You know, you know, it was a great example of that. Boys in the hood, Ricky and Doe Boy. Right. You know, where mama loved Ricky. Right, right. And she couldn't stand Doe Boy. Yeah. And she probably didn't think, you know, and that's. So think about that as a as a kid that you're growing up.

And your mama is basically saying you ain't... You know what, after all the years coming up, I've seen that situation like that. Oh, it happens, man. I've seen that situation. It happens. Like, if you hear, that's the myth that parents love all their kids to sing. First of all, it's difficult just because of the unique personality each child has.

Some parents say they don't have favorites. Sometimes they do. And what drives that person to be in a favorite could be the circumstances of their birth, the relationship they might have with the other parent. So is it that that is their favorite or is it that they just share a special moment or a special situation? I'm not getting in your video. I know. I mean, because I love.

No, I ain't talking about you. Was there a favorite in the right out family? Okay. No, it was not. Treated everybody awfully. I can tell you it was a favorite of my family. Yeah, I can tell you I can tell you a favorite of my family too. And my oldest brother didn't do nothing.

Well, that's good. We're talking about mental health. Just get it out, bro. We're a great group who pull out the couch. Get it out, bro. We're here for you, man. You know, this is a safe space, you can. Yeah, I can. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I can. Linda talked about some trauma. You know, now I have a better understanding of maybe the why.

But when I was a kid, I didn't always get it. I didn't always get it. I think I have a better understanding now. And, you know, kids have their own unique relationships with their parents. I was watching some of the kids and, you know, you had, you know, I got to the point probably when I was about eight or nine where I didn't feel like I really need to be up under my mom. And so.

And I don't know if anybody because my mother wasn't one of those moms that let you be up under her You know, but you know, you can see some kids and and look I don't I don't know. It's just it's just the reality when wouldn't That'd be biblical here for a moment Jacob and Esau they were twins Right, am I correct? They were twins

And, uh, but mama like eat like Jacob more than she liked Esau. So then she is this, I don't know how parents can do it. Were you neutral? I mean, I think because your kids all have their own unique needs and how do you respond to that? So sometimes where the other Sibs are looking at it like, oh, that's her favorite, uh, or his favorite. It could be no, they're dealing with that child because that child.

I hate to say, have just different needs that maybe I have. I learned this in coaching that one size doesn't fit all. There's some kids, man, I could just bring them out and they respond. And then other kids were going to shell. Yeah, well, yeah, because you just never know prior to bringing them out. What type of trauma or situation they're in. Right, right. You know, we are trying to make everybody tough.

Because it's like the with me You know just growing up growing up and going through situations man, I had You know learning how to play and you know going through that whole thing of learning and it was a point of time that when I Was in the choir and the choir director He'll put me on front street. So he'll from you

in front of everybody and they used to embarrass me and I used to feel some kind of way so after a while of being embarrassed in front of people it turned me into this person that that my response was don't embarrass me in front of people don't don't do that

Because then I'm going to turn around and do some of you. Clark, Kurt People Hurt. That's the kind of quiet director he is. So you go back and you can blame that quiet director when he was 14 years old. No, I'm kind of learning. I thought as a manager, I had to realize that everybody, now some things are just non-negotiable. But there are other things in terms of how you might deal with people.

Let's do just put all this up in here man. That's a lot of reading man on the program. All right, so let me go into let's do the comments Okay, y'all let's go Let's say thank you God for a terrific Tuesday. Oh change Good morning, okay See what else we got here politics

Let's see the family from Tyler, Palestine, Texas. God is good all the time. Yes, mental health illness is an issue. Unfortunately, I think that we. Hey, hey, Clark. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Slow down. You know, they're doing a roadrunner movie. Are they? Yeah. Right now, I used to love meat meat.

Okay, keep going. This is early voting. Bring me up. All right, keep going. Keep going. Let's see. That's Tony. Okay, I'm reading that. Oh, we're gonna come back right there. Ms. Bryan was at the station Friday. Remember you said that if I asked you, you'd have me on your show. Part of the problem is you came on Fridays. You don't work on Fridays. Yeah, okay. All right.

Excellent job. Let's see. Good morning, everyone. Blessings. Good morning, 860 WNLV. Keep going, man. Keep going. Keep going. Let's see. Good morning. When the community is depleted of resources or families who are dealing with no sound this morning. Oh, keep going. Lack of nutrition affects the cognitive development.

of younger people, which will conflict with their intelligence or slow learning and the stress in the environment, especially yes, nature versus nurture. Important. You're schooling them. Thank you. Keep caught them off guard by your knowledge on the topic. I don't know if that's the case. Oh, here comes the controversy.

Zebra said parents definitely have favors. Unfortunately, I wasn't what I felt. But you know what though? My brother, he's way older than me. He passed ago, but my mother, she wouldn't even let me drive her car and I had to permit what my brother didn't handle for me. He could drive the car. So he was the first one. Yep. So it's always kind of like that with the first one. And I'm the last one. I'm the first born.

I think for me being the oldest and then I'm the oldest of the oldest Responsibility was my thing. Oh, yeah, you know, like I took on

which I think helped me later in life. I wasn't real happy about it then, you know, but when you think about if anything that impacted my leadership was I had an understanding of responsibility. And so, you know, you just learn now sometimes you could be irresponsible if you want.

But the difference was my irresponsible behavior when my mom had me doing certain things could have impact on the family, right? So if I don't go downtown to pay that bill on time, it's gonna have impact on the family. So, or, you know, taking my sister to daycare, you know, I had a bus pass. So when I was in the sixth grade, I take my sister to daycare. She was going to St. Francis Daycare down on 4th and Brown. Well, now Bill Phillips and Brown. So I drop her off.

Get back on the bus Come back to school get out of school. I can't play and get on the bus Go get my sister and nothing better happened to my sister Yeah, you know, so when you know when you uh, I Mean, but again, I appreciate it being um, you know My birth order we were talking a little bit off air about

where sometimes you want to be an only child. But, you know, the one thing, and I noticed this about Kennedy is that she does better. I don't see her with kids a lot, but she seems to do better with adults because she's an only child. So the people she talked to was her mom and dad, you know, and so your level of Congress, which is good on a lot of levels, because really how we raise black kids, all this baby talk. No, you start from day one.

building their vocabulary from day one. You know, so everything when you're reading to them, when they learn how to read, all that is, all that's important. If nothing else that's helped me in my life was that my mother really gave me an expansive vocabulary. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, I had a great time being here. It sounded like he came out the wall eating steak. I mean, no applesauce, no nothing.

Hey, man, I'm trying to make my life situation. This guy came straight out. I don't need you pissing on my life situation. I'm just saying, because he just said, no baby talk. Come straight out with the yam. No Google got that. No Google just yam. I was in the other room, and it just sounded as if I had to come here and see if there was a couch in here. You know what? Y'all can beat up on me now, but y'all gonna need some help at some point. And trust me, I'm gonna wear you out.

So you get on the couch. When you were saying that you, you know, couldn't play, you had to, you know. No, I said, no, I played a lot. I'm just saying, but there was a point where between seven and 430, after school, I had to pick up my sister. And then I was on my own. I could do whatever I wanted to do. But I had that level. I didn't have to ask for this, were you responsible to make sure that they ate? Yeah, sometimes if mom is not there.

Oh, did she cook in prior to this? Yeah, she cooked. Yeah, she cooked. He was not the window on that one. Hey, look, man, I was raised by a woman. I say this, and I'll go out here. Y'all can correct me if I'm wrong. It's a difference when a woman is cooking for a man and she's just cooking for her kids.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Man in the household. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I was at that club and you know we was living high on the hog which he actually got a wiener.

Say that little pizza for Keith. Keith get the pizza pull up. He the man in the house. He get the big little pizza. Did you get the big piece of chicken? No. That was the other thing. My mother was egalitarian. Everybody had their own piece of chicken. So I like the side. My mother liked the breast. Gary liked the breast too. And then the wing. Francine got the wing. Gary got the leg. Mom got the breast.

So, it was a three piece. So, who got the business? He split it for ways. Cut it in four. Cut it in four. Hey, Zebra, I gotta say Zebra, I am a fire. I'm the same like you. I had a brother, sister, all my family go. Yes. I'm like that. That's a

So that's like on those cartoons, man. And I remember sitting in cartoons of like mother have all the kids across the street. But it would be that one duck that's left behind that, you know, that was the ugly duck. Yeah, that was the ugly duck. Go on and say it. Do the racism. The black duck. Go on and do the racism, bruh. And that's exactly what it was because all of the other ducks was yellow. It's supposed to be the black sheep. I know. Same difference, still racist.

Yeah, you know white supremacy You know the right somebody just picked what color was Daffy black No, but people would talk about that that term skate go Really goes back to I don't know if it's yonka for a Russia shaman the Jewish holiday where

What they would do was they would take all the sins of the nation and put it on the goat and then send the goat out into the wilderness. You know, that was symbolic. Did the goat ever come back? I think that goat was gone. That goat probably got eight. Yeah. Oh, Billy didn't make it.

Why would he come back then put all the sins of the nation on the right? He had a heavy load out here. Somebody that goes to let me take you out of your misery. Don't even get to, I don't use terms like the black sheep of the family and oh man, that is so racist. But when you're operating in the black in business, what is that? In business, right?

It's good in the black. It's good. You're doing Friday. Yeah Friday is you know, where the stores go into the black usually making it up doing doing Christmas I mean, I think it's how you use terms, but it has not been Now I don't want to change the subject, but this has really been bothering me. No, no, no, seriously And I know that this is not Wednesday, but I got a serious question. You ready for this one? No, seriously now if the clouds are a million pounds

and there's gravity on earth. Why is it that gravity is not pulling the clouds down? But if we jump up in the air, we automatically come back down. It's not a million pounds. Look it up. How much do a cloud weigh? A cloud, you're saying? Oh, I thought you were saying a cloud. A cloud. A cloud. How much do a cloud weigh?

And I'm telling you, they're different sized clouds. But it's still a million pounds. So with gravity being on Earth and gravity pulls things back to Earth. Well, clouds float. That's what they do. But he's right. So why is it that gravity is not pulling the clouds to the ground? An average fluffy cumulus cloud weighs about 1.1 million pounds. I'm telling you. Oh, he sits up and comes up with this stuff. No, but it's a question that if you ask yourself,

Because if you go outside right now. Did yourself answer? No, but that's why I brought it here. You got the answer. How do they stay afloat? Right. If a cloud is heavier than a fully loaded commercial jet, it stays in the sky because of buoyancy. The 1.1 million pound cloud is spread out over a massive space, making it total.

It's total density slightly less than the dry air surrounding it. Warm air rises from the ground, also acts like an invisible conveyor belt, keeping the tiny droplets suspended until they cluster together, get too heavy, and fall as rain. So if you go outside and jump up in the air, you're going to automatically come down because of the weight that's on you. Yeah, but I'm not.

Drawn out as that cloud is as he's saying this my density my density is was making me come back down No, but it's also but gravity is not affected by this obviously because it's suspended it's I get it. So that that's what makes it amazing because Gravity applies to us now. I don't know about nobody else, but I don't want to think that hard just early in the morning Yes, it is

You know, I'm really smarter than what you think. I just ask questions because I'm being hominized. No, no, no, you're not. That ain't it. No, no, no, you're not smarter than I think you are. Me, by the way. You are not smarter than I think you are. You're absolutely correct. My whole thing is this. You're as smart as you think you are. And I'm very.

I'm a legend in my own mind. I don't question your ability. Here we go. Here's a question for you right now. Uh-oh. On a side note. Is this from the chat? Yep. Uh-oh. If a tree falls in the forest and no one's around, does it still make a sound? Call a welcome to the program. I got my phone back. Call a welcome to the program. Oh, what up, man? What's happening?

Can you hear me now? Yes, yes. Speaking of conspiracies, the ride out and ride out and fuck, they get together the message you keep. Hey, drive you public crazy. What is he saying? I can't understand.

They had some conspiracy. Michael Jackson and Prince was killed. And I thought Clark was going to be like, that's ridiculous. Yeah. That's what they did. I just had to try to sign in quickly. All right.

I'm telling you, they don't believe me. And at first, I thought it wasn't going anywhere. But his doctor did kill him, didn't he? He ended up dying himself. K-I-L-T. His doctor did kill him, but they were making the argument that the man, because he had done a song, they don't really care about us. Or a man in the mirror.

No, no, they don't care about us. And so Tommy Motolo put a head out on him by him getting the doctor. The only doctor would prescribe the Popofall. So what the puffy dodo would kill? Somebody says, so when they were killed, when they were killed. No, they was killed. K-I-L-T.

Thank you, Zebra, just so now we have to do a definition of a kilk. Yeah, we know what that is. It is an open garment that's worn primarily in Scotland. Yeah. OK, it's a kilk. The bag bag men wear it, don't they? Well, you know what? Going back to if the tree falls in the forest, there was something when we studied philosophy called humium thought. And his whole point, the question he asked, does it exist beyond the door?

if I don't see it, does it exist beyond the door? And it was one of those things, man, where I pondered that question. That's thought provoking. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like, because then, truthfully, if the tree falls, does it indeed make a sound if nobody hears it? It makes a sound, but does someone have to be there in order for that sound? So confirm. Right, to confirm the sound. Aha.

These are questions that I asked myself. Yeah, I mean, and then it comes down to abstract. Is it I have to see it? But again, how can you say that it's a sound if nobody hears it? Because a sound you don't see. But just because I'm there doesn't mean that the sound didn't occur. Right. Exactly. Just because I didn't hear it. But you weren't there to verify it. Right. You know, it was one of the things the Sunday School lesson was on Thomas.

and Thomas's doubt and It made perfect sense to me because the other folks who was telling about it had actually seen Jesus he did not so he didn't believe right and then he know them Right. That was a whole other piece of it. He knew them and so I mean and so in his mind, but most of us have a certain level of skepticism so again the question

is if I don't see it, does that mean that it exists? And that's where you get into questions of faith and belief. Well, that's probably an example of what just really happened here. And I'm glad you just kind of went there because me talking about the weight of the cloud, y'all not seeing it, you didn't believe it until you saw it. So it was- I still didn't see it though. That Keith read it. That don't mean, you know, he could be a pervericator. But again, going back to me seeing it and me clowning all of the time,

puts the emphasis on, well, it could be him clowning again until you go look it up and see that it's actually true. Man, nobody be thinking you clowning. I think it all sensibly back there. You put yourself out there, no victims is volunteered. When you're flying, think about this, when you're flying and you're above the clouds, do you see the density of the cloud at that point? You could.

if you're trying through that's what I'm saying that's how thin it is I know but for it to be so thin but yet heavy well let me uh zebra ask this question so does consciousness create reality it can help us well I know I think that that and that that's back to you if does it exist if I don't see it or experience it

And now the reality is, yes, but maybe no. You know, our accepting of truth, our accepting of facts. If I don't see it, then why do I accept it? I think a lot of people do that, but no. But then again, you know, you got to be careful with that too, because he just said something. When you fly above the clouds and you look at the clouds, it's thin, right?

So you see how thin it is. But if I was to tell you without you looking enough that that particular cloud that you just saw that is thin weighs a million pounds, you wouldn't believe it because you just saw that cloud and it's thin. Not all clouds are the same size. And they were talking about cumulus clouds because then you also have and we'll experience the day where it's going to get cloudy. But that means the rain is coming. And then when it gets to the point that there's so much weight, then it turns into water.

Now and I'm gonna end it on this I Said this yesterday. We you know, we saying God is a great God Yes, I have a problem with the use of the preposition up God is the great guy and and I say that in terms of creation and here's another example of creation and just how intricate creation

And existence is so let me thank dr. Sabrina Ali like that Christina come to my Let me do it right cuz I'm killing her name My name I know she's not Jermaine look She's setting up camp over there again Blanket out Keith

I'm telling you man that and you see it more in the summertime. This is this is this is mental illness that is best though. Alright y'all hold on let me do this. I mean but if I was if I was gonna do that wouldn't I go over here in the soft grass?

But again, this whole area is changing. It's very transient area, too. Day by day, it is changing more. I'll tell you what, and it could just be me. Why did they close down the mental health facility, Scott Walker, and the powers that be? There was more of a community treatment.

So there's a lot of community treatment centers, but like I said, if people don't avail themselves to the treatment, then they're out here on the streets trying to fend for themselves. There's a lot of, a lot of veterans that are homeless and a lot of it has to do with them dealing with their traumatic experiences. Yeah. Why don't we only see it over here and not everywhere? Oh, I think there's other parts of the city too. Yeah, but when you drive through and see, you don't see the other parts of the city. Man, I can go out to the mall. There's a person out there, drugstores.

Dr. Christina Kumaran, let me thank you. So let me thank you, Debo. Thank you. Clark, thank you. Thank you. Super. Boy, wonder. Thank you. Jamie, it is. Jamie. I heard that this morning. She's calling him Jamie. Jamie. Hey, I said, look at that one. Like, tell me more about my name. Hey, wait a minute. He's just smiling. You're talking more about my name. You can call me Jamie.

use his club name. Hey y'all, the good Lord willing Creek don't rise. Hope to talk to everybody tomorrow and as always, go from this place and peace.

Good morning.

Welcome to Community Voice.

I'm your host Keith Parris.

I want to thank everybody for joining us this morning.

Good morning, Clark Kent.

How are you this morning?

Hey, man.

I'm good.

I'm good.

Jamie, how are you this morning?

Well, you know, today, Jamie is feeling mighty as well on the inside.

Jamie.

Is that your club name?

Well, you know, that's my jiggaloo name.

You know, I'm a part-time jiggaloo.

I

heard

the most incredible conspiracy conversation

You agree with him.

I'm just saying.

So let's roll this

back.

I agree with

what?

Let's roll this back.

Jamie claims he wanted to know that they killed Michael Jackson because he wrote the song.

They

don't really

care about us.

They don't care about us.

believe it.

Yeah.

See, and Clark agrees with this.

This is not what happens.

Well, you never know.

And he did call Tommy Metolo the devil, but

that ain't what

happened.

But but his addiction killed him.

Well,

well, who gave him the dish?

His doctor.

And who was the doctor

saved by?

He he found the doctor.

He found the doctor that he found it.

He found the doctor He found the doctor who would prescribe him that purple fall

or or Did he put it then

it gets him better

They

kill Prince

too

They did.

They did.

I believe it, man.

Where

there's a

wheel.

How come black people just can't die?

Well, you know, it is so difficult for black people just to die.

Well, it's just hard for me because...

It killed Michael Jackson.

Yeah, man.

I believe because he was too powerful and he was starting to...

You know, step out of line as the folks are saying, you gotta line, boy.

And that's what happened.

He started to- They wasn't

gonna kill Michael Jackson.

He had just signed to do 50 dates in London.

Yeah,

but he also said that this was to laugh.

Dude.

He also said that this was to laugh.

The

last thing you wanna put on Michael Jackson was he was a revolutionary threat.

Wait, no, because he had the people's ear.

He's a powerful icon.

So, when you have a powerful icon going against a machine- Anybody

else didn't kill?

Oh, yeah.

So, a whole lot of people they didn't kill.

K-I-L-T.

Two

bucks.

Two bucks and Biggie was, that was, that was a strategic move by the system, man, because these are cats that had the people's ear.

So, if you got the, like Martin Luther King.

Four four four four five two five

zero is there

anybody out there that's agreeing with right out

That

Prince and Michael Jackson was killed Okay, I can and biggie's different But was killed

because they were a threat to the man

Yeah, I'm telling you because listen Michael just bought the Beatles catalog right now.

He's had the Beatles catalog for a while So I remember that when he did that he did that interview and he was talking about Tommy He was talking about how these people there was Tommy

Matolo.

He was doing

going back and forth with

Sony or whoever he was

Yeah, now, you know, Tony there was a big wig.

I mean a major big wig and married to Mariah Carey.

Yeah

Okay, so obviously no one agrees because nobody's called so

And

you know what it's my fault for even bringing

it up And I was

just sitting here just kind of listening and they just casually just throwing conspiracies out there.

Yeah anybody else

Well, of course Martin Luther

they were about the revolution.

Yeah, but

But still, when you're powerful, if you had a

had a Mount Rushmore of revolutionary profits, Prince Michael Jackson would not even be in the same state.

That is true.

However, however, if you had a Mount Rushmore of people that could influence and cause the people to turn, they most definitely would be on them.

Then that would be Marilyn Manson, right?

What yeah, I mean, you know, he didn't have a man to get sued because some kid was listening to his music and committed suicide.

Well, yeah, yeah, okay.

Yeah, okay.

Just so we're clear Prince and Michael Jackson succumbed to drug overdoses

That's a hard pill to swallow for me man

because I was with them

too

Good

morning.

How

are

you?

I'm pretty good, pretty good.

I was just gonna say, let's not forget about Whitney Houston.

What happened to her?

Whitney

Houston.

Oh boy, there's another

one.

Yeah, man.

Yeah, Whitney Houston.

There's a CEO like, you know, Sony Records, Clyde Davis.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think he was coming from a lot of murders and intersting.

He's always, always, always used to us before we looked.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's all I wanted to hear.

Yeah, so one for right now But listen because they don't want to get charged with murder

so they

have to they have to strategically do it like puffy Can't nobody tell me but

yeah,

yeah, no, but puffy has something to do with Kim's death.

He has something to do with Albee Sorghum sick Yes, I'm gonna do with all of that man.

How about

Albee sure just being fat.

No, but

But it wasn't the fat thing that got

him in the

hospital.

It was it was what they

gave him.

I'm

sure it contributed to him.

That cat had pneumonia.

Heavy D?

Hey, you'd be surprised, man.

I'm telling you that you'd be surprised.

The industry is evil, man.

It's evil.

But

you but you don't kill your moneymaker.

No, but yes, you do because if you got insurance on them,

I'm with that

because I still believe that that should night had something to do with Tupac tonight.

Well, Puffy Puffy and it's on record.

You can look this up.

Puffy said after this whole thing, he was like Tupac, Biggie.

I don't care who they are.

One of them got to go.

Puffy said

that.

Yes.

And you can look it up, bro.

It's it's

So good

he a jail.

Yeah, it's on the record, man.

When is he scheduled to get

out?

I don't know, man, but.

And when is Robert

Kelly scheduled to get out?

So they gave Kelly 37 years, man.

And that's crazy because.

For a child molestation.

What was it child molestation?

Oh, wait, wait, wait The bed the

bed the bed set him up,

right?

We have a parent we have a parent that would bring your child.

Okay, your child 13 years old and you will leave them there to with a grown man See

the problem with conspiracies call and welcome

to

Most of us would okay, but they got to do a conspiracy.

That's just

good parody Yeah

I believe Kanye West mother was also done away with the mistakes he had made against Bush.

These are people that go in for just some old cosmetic surgeries that they did in the past.

And I'm not saying the mistakes don't happen.

Then she had a cosmetic

surgery in Brazil.

I can't hear you.

Then she had a cosmetic surgery in Brazil.

I don't care what it did.

The establishment will go in a cave, man.

The cave of poverty, man, and find you if they really, really desired to have you.

So Kanye made that statement about how Bush was, and what, about a month later, so his mother went in for that cosmetic surgery.

She passed away.

In Brazil.

John Williams made a conversation about,

We have the first transgender in the White House.

Yeah, Joan Rivers

was in her 80s.

But with John Rivers, she was in her 80s, but she had had that kind of operation many times before.

So I just thought I would throw that in.

Well, thank you for throwing that

in.

I'm

going to throw it out.

All

right, I got you.

I got you.

You throw it in, I'm going to throw it out.

All right, welcome to the program.

I'm going to come over and pray for you.

You can pray where you're right.

You know, if it gets through.

Let's have a good old fashioned prayer meeting up there at the

station.

You want to

invite me to Bible study.

You know what my pastor used to say?

He says, some

prayers

don't get beyond the prayer loft.

Hey, get something down.

Get something.

All right.

Call and welcome to the program.

Did y'all?

Yeah.

So let's hope this list is expanded.

We started with Michael Jackson in Prince.

Then we get to Joan Rivers and Kanye's mama.

Now the one thing that Joan Rivers and Kanye mama have in effect.

They both had cosmetic surgery It's where they had the cosmetic surgery because my understanding was she had her Cosmetic surgery she being Kanye's mom in Brazil and it's complications from that But I don't know why I'd go to Brazil when we had some of the best cosmetic surgeons in the world right here in America But maybe that was a conspiracy

You just never know man,

um

You never know but

I mean, you know how this system is set up We would have never found out that Martin Luther King and Malcolm X was being set up if that information didn't leak

Well, I grew up doing that time and I was a kid and people kind of knew the government was certainly it was funny you hear about how

right now, you know, Trump alleged that the Biden administration had weaponized the Department of Justice.

Anybody who was around in the 60s and 70s and probably even in the 50s knew that the FBI, which is part of the Department of Justice, really had been weaponized to go after civil rights leaders, to go after student activists, people who were against the war.

And when I heard that, it was like it wasn't the first time.

Now, the difference probably is this time around this president is used to go after his enemies.

Now, Nixon had an enemy's list.

He put the IRS on him.

He put other people on him.

So that's real.

But this wasn't the first time now that the Justice Department had been weaponized against U.S.

citizens.

As a matter of fact, one of the things that happened with the church committee

was that a lot of the stuff that the CIA was doing, they could no longer do stateside.

So who was the guy?

I remember this, I think it was in the 80s.

It was like the mid 80s, late 80s in Philadelphia, when they had blew up the house.

Wilson Good was mayor, it was move.

Yeah.

So how they, how they went about that whole thing.

One of my classmates was watching them and following them the whole time.

One of my classmates ended up going to work for Wilson

Good.

And he's in

Philly today.

Yep.

Yep.

Yeah, that was move.

And he definitely, you know, everyone says that the Gap man drop a bomb on me is about Tulsa.

But they definitely dropped a bomb

on me.

I mean, they burned down.

And if anybody's ever been out east, especially in cities like Philly,

Is row houses right right and so the whole block.

Yeah,

they

just basically blew up the whole block so dealing with move

for them to to actually do that And they was trying to eliminate a powerful black voice They try to eliminate it by destroying That particular property and pretty much everything around it and anybody who was in that house So you have the government knows a

Well, there's ways to shut it down.

It says, how would you go about doing

it?

Yeah, but the kids end up dying.

It was horrific.

And then they show you how things work.

Then they end up charging the members of move.

So make it make sense because they're not the ones that have created this whole fire.

They didn't create none of that.

But for them to be in the house and that house to get bomb like that.

And then I believe from one of the survivors, because I was watching the story, she said how they was running out the house and you tried to kill everybody in that house because you wanted them to be silent.

Epic moves Milwaukee says, right out of speaking truth, all them things did and is happening in the industry.

I'm telling you, man, listen.

Why

would you it seems to be Rather self-defeating that if you can eat because of somebody why would you kill them if you could eat because of

because you can eat like If I don't have to pay you anymore and I get all of the residuals There's a record in

most cases most people have signed away.

No, no, no

Yeah, a lot of times people have signed away.

You

know

that

no, but I'm talking about now They got these contracts now

people are still signing away there

they still are signing away.

Look, and I would agree with this, the industry lawyers are very good, but most people are not reading the fine print.

Well, yeah, because you're so intrigued about that money number.

So you see that money number first.

Exactly.

So you see that first and then you don't read anything else.

But there's a record company right now.

I forgot the name of it.

I think it's, I want to say CG something is, I forgot the name of the record company.

So I don't want to say the wrong name, but there's a record company out here.

That once they sign they artists they take out an insurance policy.

I mean, yeah, everybody not every record company does that This particular record company does that because though the rappers that they sign are drill rappers and they know man That is only a limited time.

What kind of rappers drill rappers

And drill rappers are

are the ones that that rap about you know death

like say like if I kill you,

I

mean I put out a song say, hey man, I'm smoking on Keith.

Would

you take out if you knew that the actuary of these guys is because they talking violence that they might greet violence?

Yeah,

but why

sign these people to promote the violence?

Because it's making money.

Because at my point, my point, so if you are no longer alive,

the portion that I'm paying you, I no longer have to pay.

So now

everything that's coming to me, cause I own you.

If I'm working for you and I'm making you a lot of money and I decide to go to ride out, ride out, give me a little better deal or something, give me something.

I got my own rights and everything.

And I decide to leave you.

You think you ain't going to go here though?

Cause

that show, you know, that show

money,

that show big fish.

So you say it to me that the current owners of WNOV, if I decide to take my town with the WGOB, they're going to put a hit out on me?

Well, it depends.

No, no, no, seriously.

It depends on if you are the big fish and if that company is evil-like.

Mariela, I know you listen.

I'm not

leaving.

I don't want you killed at me.

No, don't you

weep.

But that is how it is, though.

Don't you weep, Mary.

No, no, no.

But that's how it is.

I know.

You heard what I have to keep,

right?

You can give me a beer and make that move.

Oh, Burlai.

And oh my god.

I was smoking on pear.

Well, let me thank everybody for being part of the conspiracy moment here

on Community

Voice.

I appreciate that.

I appreciate you.

Boy, everything and nothing.

But it's my fault because, again, I should have been ear hustling.

Y'all just so casually throwing it back and clock going, yelp, yelp.

It's real, man.

I'm telling you

it's real.

You're listening to Community Voice.

At the bottom of the hour, we'll be doing Be Healthy Be You.

You all keep it locked.

We'll be right back.

Causing it or something else going on so you want to kind of Tailor it to the person as well And

then to add to that of course With all the varieties of different mental illness, I think that a because people Don't talk about it as much although we are starting to

get some traction with it now, which is wonderful.

But because people don't talk about it, I think the numbers that are listed are far less than what it is in reality because people are frightened to talk about these things, whether it's because of jobs or family members or, you know, just in themselves not wanting to open up and talk about those things.

And then the other part of it is a lot of other things can affect your mental health too, right?

So there's lots of medical conditions.

like anemia and thyroid disease and all these other things where someone can be having raging anxiety and didn't realize that they haven't had normal thyroid hormone level.

Um, so, you know, again, or

people who are dealing with long-term illness might lead to depression, you know, because it just seems like I'm not, I'm in this spiral and I just can't seem to get out.

I was thinking the other day.

It's kind of crazy.

Um, but I was thinking about

Charles Manson and and and the reason why I was thinking I was going that there's a difference Between someone like Charles Manson Charlie Manson everybody knows he's just just recently died But he was more of a sociopath Than someone who was dealing with you know psychotic behavior, right?

I mean which gets to how our environment can impact our mental health and our behavior

controlled by our brain, right?

Yeah.

Definitely.

I think you're, I think you're, I mean, you're alluding to the nature versus, uh, nature versus

nurture

debate.

And, um, it's, it's, it's extremely valid.

Uh, and I think that

It's just my little opinion here, but I do think that the nurture part plays that massive role.

So even if nature is dictating something going on, I think that if the people around you and you're in the right group of folks and get the right resources and maybe medication or whatever it is that you are needing in severe cases, I think the outcome can still be

good.

We're all third world people.

I say third world, but, you know, our culture certainly has an impact on our mental health.

This guy Ralph Wiley wrote a book a few years ago.

Sometimes it makes you want to holler, right?

I mean, you know, you were talking about the whole nurture piece of our environment, our culture, our religion.

All those things can contribute, and I'll use the word mental health, right?

Yeah, yeah,

okay.

Now, you don't know we're on radio so therefore You're

alluding to the entire nature of all things so it's not only in the home.

It's outside the home.

It's the community and and that's why the

Having events and making sure that we're checking in on each other and being open and honest About how we're feeling I feel like a lot of people tend to pretend like everything is sunshine and rainbows on a day-to-day because maybe they're embarrassed or they just Feel too proud to talk about it.

Well, and what I'm getting to is there's an enormous You guys are doctors, right?

I don't know how much of that is

Culturally driven in terms of you being a doctor But I do know for for instance, I knew people who They were they were achieving right but the pressure that goes along with it

right

and then you don't want to be the person who lets You know your people down right

that's

that can impact your mental health, right?

Yeah, no, I I think like

there's um someone I know was their their niece or someone was doing a experiment in school and like you're talking about the environment affecting you as a person and your mental health and her niece basically took two plants the same plants same type of soil everything and she decided to do um put one plant

and speak positively to it and give it sunlight and water and everything.

And give the other plant same sunlight, same water, same nutrients, everything like that, but speak negatively to it.

And the one that she spoke negatively to started to die.

And so it's not just what you do on yourself on the inside, but like things around you can affect.

You internally and you just don't think that that plays a major role and like you said our society now like we have a lot of pressure being in Physicians and high stress careers A lot of things get thrown at you and you can't really stop that Like flow of all the stuff coming at you, but you can build healthy coping mechanisms to help deal with it better

And also, physicians, all physicians are not the best at this either.

So it's a conversation that is happening within the medical community as well, because there are a lot of people, you know, you get, I have to see, you have to go from patient to patient to patient, you know, you're trying to take a breath or just be a human.

It becomes a little bit is, you know, suppressing those feelings.

So it's important.

for it in every realm it affects every realm everywhere and Even like sometimes and it's not every physician even feels comfortable talking about mental health always with patients and that's facts and so you know just

Making sure I think that if the community has these conversations and it becomes more normalized Slowly then that seeps into every avenue and it makes everybody feel more comfortable

You're an alluded to it earlier, but We're moving I think sometimes glacially Towards you know having these conversations, right?

And I'm gonna use the word okay

But what I mean is not it should be condemning because you might be dealing with some mental health issues Yet, you know for a lot of us, you know, let's put them in the attic.

Let's or we ignore it They'll grow out of it.

So there's a significant number of people who are walking around with undiagnosed

mental health challenges

right yeah absolutely I think that's where primary care plays a really huge I think that's where primary care plays a huge role in helping to

build these trusting relationships with patients so that they feel comfortable talking about them and you're able to identify what's going on with the patient and see how you can help them better because a lot of people don't like to talk about it and they think it's like a weakness instead of a strength.

But you know, if you again, if you break your leg, you immediately go to the doctor, you're not going to try to like walk it off.

So why not?

go to the doctor for these things too.

This

is not a stigma attached to a broken leg.

That's

true, that's true.

But like you said, we're moving at a gear to get there.

Right, you know,

just being able to be able to, you know, when you talk about this thing, because the brain is, you know, it's literally the nerve center.

It's controlling everything.

And our state of mind, a lot of times, impacts.

how we deal in this environment, right?

And you hit the nail on the head with what you just said.

You know, that stigma, that stigma that holds us so tightly, I make it a point when I'm talking about anxiety, depression with people or any other mental health thing going on, I say, this is no different than any other chronic condition.

Everybody knows people with diabetes, with high blood pressure, with all these other things.

Okay.

Diabetes, for example.

You need to watch your blood sugars.

You need to eat healthy.

You need to exercise.

Some people need to take insulin injections.

Some people need to take pills.

Some people do well with just exercise and eating healthy.

in and of itself.

Everybody is unique.

There's the diabetic category, but each person's treatment plan is different because everybody has different circumstances and different genetics and it's a partnership and we work with it.

Now, if those same people don't do the things that they need to do, what happens?

They lose their limbs, they can go blind, they can have heart attacks and strokes.

different than anxiety and depression.

It is a chronic condition.

Anxiety, depression, bipolar, all the things.

They're chronic conditions and they need a treatment plan that is unique to them.

They need medication.

They need therapy, talk therapy.

They need exercise, eating healthy, doing things like positive affirmations and meditation and you know working on what works for you.

But I think if everybody can have that outlook

say okay here are different spectrums of chronic conditions and as long as you're open for the treatment and the tools in your toolbox to help you fight it.

And one of the great things about the Affordable Care Act was that it put mental health care on the same level as regular physical health care right because I can remember

your HMO would give you X number of visits.

Where if I broke my leg, literally unlimited in terms of dealing, making sure I'm healed, right?

You may or may not be able to in three or four or five sessions be able to really adequately deal with a mental health challenge.

So in some ways, but I think again, as you said, glacial, we just have to move that it's okay to get help.

I mean, the same way with like some people, even with

actual chronic other medical conditions like even diabetes or high blood pressure.

Some people want to just try lifestyle and diet and exercise and all those things, but it's harder.

Like they're more hesitant to try medication for it.

So there's a stigma around medication too.

So it's kind of similar in that sense.

So we're moving glacially, but I think it all starts with the basic foundation of trust and working with the patient and

what's best for them.

Hello, Carla.

Carla, welcome to the program.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Yeah, good morning, Keith.

Thanks for taking my call.

Good morning, ladies in the studio.

Thanks for being there.

Thank you.

Good morning.

Good morning, Mr. Rideout.

Good morning, Clark.

Good morning, Milwaukee.

Tyrone W speaking.

A couple of different things here.

Good morning, Vivian King.

Another one of my favorite people there on the previous show there.

I tried to call in.

She had too many interviews there, so I couldn't get through it.

I'll catch up with you there when I can, but have a nice event on the 15th.

Probably won't get there this year, but it sounds good.

I'll try to get there in upcoming events there.

I was going to say a couple of different things.

Big corporation, you know, I mean, it's just greed all over the place.

I pretty much kind of know the answers.

Greed, but big corporation, I mean, is it to the point to where overload is just part of the modern day?

I mean, workplace like, you know, okay, be flexible, but yeah, we want you to do this, this, this, this, this.

I mean, you're doing 10 different things, man.

By the end of the day, I mean, you just burn.

So, I mean, just work overload.

I mean, instead of spreading, you know, the staff and team members, you know, spread it around there, illustration would be, well, of course, you got one governor, but then you've got several mayors, you've got several other people.

Now, all those people should be able to report to the governor.

I mean, as far as changing command is concerned, you know, all the person to the mayor and different things like that.

There are different departments and things like you have a treasure and different people, you know, like that.

They're reporting to the governor and then, you know, brainstorming and working things out there.

So it just seems to me like as a country, we have gotten bogged down with overload.

And then we say, well, you know,

even with the military, you know, smoke them if you got them.

Well, that's the worst thing you can tell them to do because they need to be healthy in order to be able to hold the line.

And so all these different things that we see, the youngsters vaping and everything, literally seeing a young lady, I said, she was the young man, he was handling her okay.

But the young lady, she went to vaping and she started choking.

I said, are you choking?

Are you choking?

She said, no, I'm not.

She almost coughed up a lung, you know, I'm like,

man.

Human beings have always had to

deal.

Yeah, I mean just corporation overload and

I

think you make a valid point.

I do.

I think that in general, lots of organizations, a lot of people, doctors included, everybody is on that hamster wheel of like, all right, we got to get things done, got to get things done.

And then we're not actually addressing or even recognizing because you're so busy how you are actually feeling.

So I would urge you to

advocate for yourself no matter what workplace that you're in to advocate and take that moment and if you feel that you need therapy and if you feel that you need um like a mental health day whatever it is you know advocating for yourself to make sure that you're practicing um important healthy coping mechanisms and

Also talking to your doctor about it if you talk to your doctor about it and you know you say to your doctor Hey, I really want to do talk therapy.

I'm struggling and my job won't let me do that Well best believe your doctor is gonna write you a note and if they don't find a new doctor who will Who will say this is important part of your care plan to allow my patient to Have a healthy coping mechanism and and to thrive with their chronic condition

So it's conversation and advocacy, I think.

You're listening to Be Healthy BU.

We're joined in studio by Dr. Sabrina Ali and Dr. Christina Comaran.

They are with the Ascension All Saints Family Health Center.

Today we're talking about mental health and we'll take a quick break and we'll be right back.

Back and we're inside be healthy be you were joined by dr. Sabrina Ali and dr. Christina come around and They're here talking about mental health and we're gonna talk about an event that's happening At the end of the month.

We were having these conversations off You know that that that whole mental It's kind of stuff of words that whole mental piece is big and we were talking about Depression

and that dark place that people, and a lot of times I could tell you my own experience was I didn't know who to turn to.

I never thought maybe I should go and talk to a doctor.

Maybe it is, we used that word earlier, stigma, and not wanting people to go like, because I can tell you, in the community I grew up with, when they called you crazy,

That wasn't cool.

Yeah,

you

know, I mean

it and it's obviously not a clinical term It's just how we describe it.

We're talking about what people who are trying to manage their depression

You're hitting on the also that Men don't cry and men need to be tough and men that keep your business to yourself and not say anything and No, men can cry you want

a real life

story.

My father was killed when I was 10

and my mother and

father were divorced but so I come home from school and my mom said I need to see you in the bedroom.

Now normally my mom call you in the bedroom that's usually not good.

And so she called me in and she said I got a letter from your aunt and she said

your dad was killed in Kentucky.

Now, really, I didn't have much of a relationship with him, but I just started crying.

I'm 10.

My mother says, stop crying.

Men don't cry.

I was 10.

Now,

I

know she meant well.

Yeah.

You know, we don't want to raise soft boys.

And so after that, it was very difficult for me to cry because my mom had told me

that, you know, men don't cry.

I'm sorry you had to go through that and experience that.

I remember you mentioned this last year as well and I, it's giving tools to kids so they grow up.

and they know how to respond in those situations.

I reckon your mom didn't have the tools, you know, to talk about that mental health piece of it or, you know, navigate those things.

I don't

think she even thought about that.

Yeah.

I think she was probably, and then it probably hurt her to see me cry.

Right.

So

there

was

probably

a

lot going on there

in terms of that.

Yeah,

of course.

It's hard.

But, you know, and depending on the kid, it could, obviously, there's one of those traumatic

moments in your life.

Um, but I'm just saying that you're right in terms of the culture

and

especially when it comes to men.

I mean, it's not just mental health.

You know, men regularly seeing a doctor,

right?

Because

especially if you came up in sports, you know, you, you get out.

I was listening to someone talk about, they were talking about how Vince LaVardy was talking about toughness.

And he said, oh, you injured one leg, you have another one,

you know, you

know, just take it.

But this ability to be able to, you know, something is wrong.

I think the next step is how do we reach out for the help that we

need?

And know that it's okay, you know, to reach out.

I think it's a good thing that, like you said earlier, like we're moving at a glacial pace.

I think knowledge is power and educating the next generation and young boys that it's okay to cry, like start early.

really try to show them that they don't need to internally isolate themselves like that really helps because then you're going to pass that down the line and it's going to have like a ripple effect.

So is it different than we're raising the girls differently?

I think we should be raising all of our children with that mentality

and

also you know it's the

What do they say?

What's that phrase?

Monkey see, monkey do, yeah?

You know, so it's so important that even as adults, even if we weren't given those tools, even if we, you know, we don't know really how to manage our feelings, our stressors, you know, we're running around doing a million things, you're grocery shopping, you're working, you're cooking, you're kids screaming at, you know, help or, you know, what, I need this or I want this or they're crying.

You know, it's overstimulating.

So in learning as a parent, as just an adult in society, how to do these things, then the younger generations see you.

Okay.

Dad's really upset and overstimulated.

He...

takes a moment and he does a guided meditation or dad takes a moment and he does a couple deep breathing exercises or mom is really when she's really upset um she says she needs just you know a couple minutes of quiet and I don't know what she likes to do adult coloring you know all the different things or oh hey kiddo um I have therapy today um

You're gonna be with, I don't know, mom, uncle, aunt, whoever for an hour.

I'm gonna do therapy for an hour.

Letting them see how you respond to stressors.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think that, you know, we find ourselves in a society where, you know, we...

It's kind of a different world now in some ways where people are more apt to expose themselves I don't know if that's healthy But

what way can you elaborate expose?

You know

what you know the internet, you know with social media we share a lot of intimate Details in our lives that in the past maybe not so

much

You know, I mean in our household we whatever happened in that house stayed in the house We didn't want it outside the house And I think that that that's the idea what with What mental illness, you know, we're talking about parents and children But you know really in relationships that a lot of times