Exploring Wrestling’s Wild Stories & Political Insights

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Exploring Wrestling’s Wild Stories & Political Insights

Community Voice · Mon Aug 3, 2026

Good morning. Good morning. Welcome to Community Voice. I'm your host, Keith Parris. I want to thank everybody for joining us this morning. Clark Kent, what's happening? Who is it? Clark over there, man. He all like plugged in, got earphones all. Got the laptop going. Professor Glam is on. Like he's just in college. Like he's in school. I would go old school cartoons. Simon Barsenister.

Simon. Simon. Simon. Simon. Simon. Simon. Simon. Simon. Simon. Simon. Simon. Simon. Simon. Simon.

Every third Saturday man in September. I'm there to be like big my mama to give me some Frosted flakes and let me do real in front of the TV real milk instead of pet milk Powder milk powder So anyway, good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Oh Man, they don't make cartoons like that no more man. I said man. They don't make cartoons like that You know though when Kennedy was little I had

I watched so much Paw Patrol. Ah, I watched so much Paw Patrol, dude. Now with her, with her mom and her uncle, they were watching Thomas the train. Blues Clues, yeah. And Blues Clues, now it's Bluesies. Dude, we'd be sitting there and she'd come in and she has an attention span of a net. So it'd be like.

I want to watch, I want to watch Paw Patrol. Then we watch Paw Patrol, then maybe five, 10 minutes into it, and I want to watch something else. So I don't know how much of that was her feel like she was in control of her little life. Man, Powerpuff Girls was something that my daughter had me watching when she was a little Powerpuff Girls. I want to watch Powerpuff Girls. Mojo Jojo. I hate to do this, man, but if I do a recap of my weekend.

Wow. Saturday was just, you know, rain, rain, rain, and then it rained. So I'm glad that some folks were able to get their events in. The weather cleared enough for them to get their events in. I know the United Negro College Fund, it was raining so hard, you know, but it looks like Christian Faith got their event and they were under 10. I mean, even if they was out in the open, they was just dipping people in the water. I don't think anybody got baptized. You sure? I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know if they went in that water. That water was cold. The blood in the land. A warm yellow in the shivers. But part of Direct TV is that you get Hulu and you get that ESPN plus. So I was able to watch SummerSlam. Ah, The Wrestler. I had watched one of those main events. First of all,

They were in the The Minneapolis Stadium, I don't know if it's still the Metrodome that building is incredible. Oh, you're too much. They had two nights Yeah, they had two nights where that place was sold out. Oh, they make some money. Oh, they made bank man. Oh God and then Usually you do pay per view. You don't get commercials, right? Oh, you got commercials with this so on top of that Yeah, so, you know, you had that so I got a chance to

to watch, did Romans reigns win last night? Yeah. He did, didn't he? Yeah. I mean, it was scripted. Huh? Nothing. Xperia C would have jacked. Oh, man, come on, man. It is scripted. I was. It's entertainment, man. And then Hell in the Cell, what's the African dude? He won.

See, it didn't used to be like he was Brock Lesnar. Oh, did he? Yeah, he beat Brock Lesnar. Now, I remember back in the day, and it was probably scripted then. It's always been scripted. Yeah, I mean, but it was, but it was covered up so good, you couldn't tell. So are you, you know, you didn't know who was going to win those matches, like the Steel Cage matches and all of those matches or the last man in the ring or the Royal Rumble type thing. So you didn't know who was going to win.

One of the craziest matches. I can remember it was hell in the cell. It was the undertaker against mankind. And when he threw him man through the top, he was supposed to body slam him on the top of the.

The the cage right the cage gave and do fell out look like almost 50 feet And the undertaker said I thought I thought Mick was dead. Yeah, he got up man That was one of the craziest things like ever and that one scripted. No, no That was a malfunction. Yeah, and that was coming after Owen Hart. Yeah, right, you know when the harness broke. Yeah, so

Man, but yeah, that was one of the craziest hells in the cell I'd ever seen man, and then they put the tax down. I mean, Nick Foley, you know, genius, dude's brilliant. But man, he talked about putting his body on the line. You know, now, my favorite character he did, I love mankind, but dude love.

Dude love is like like one of the great wrestling characters of all time, man. So whatever happened to the Ultimate Warrior? He had passed away. Yeah, he couldn't wrestle. What? He couldn't wrestle. I mean, right. I mean, Hulk Hogan got over because, you know, he was Hulk Hogan. He couldn't wrestle. Yeah, but the Ultimate Warrior, Ultimate Warrior, he couldn't wrestle. I mean, but he was winning though. Yeah, well.

He wasn't playing, he wasn't wrestling. But he had some nice moves, though. Well, he beat, it was the match, though, when he came in, he beat, was it Hulk Hogan? Yeah, he beat one of those. It's almost a minute into the match, but he couldn't wrestle, and that was part of it. And then they said that behind the scenes, you know, he just wasn't, he just wasn't with it. You know, they do it, God, I'm trying to think what, it's called the dark side of the ring.

And you get a chance to get into a lot of these backstories, you know, like they had to do who was the dude who killed his wife and his son and they got into his thing Oh Chris been what Chris Chris? Yeah, yeah, and and and they taught and I remember when it happened that That happened over the weekend that Monday, you know, they came out. They do it all this morning. You know, oh man, Chris They didn't know what it happened. So it was like

steroid use or something. They say it was steroid use. Some people said it could have been CTE, you know, cause he used to do that, that move where he would come off the top rope and hit basically head budget. So the level of concussions, here's something you don't see anymore in wrestling. You don't see headshots with a chair. Right, right. So do it on your back. So was that scripted too?

Yeah, but, you know, they will tell you that the outcome is scripted. The moves are real. Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah. And what I mean by the moves are real is that you get out like there's a way when somebody does a drop tick kick that, you know, you're able to put your arms up. And when you really watch it closely, you will see that when they do it, there's a way that they do it in such a way as not doing that kind of physical damage. But every now and then things happen like, I'm trying to remember who dropped Steve Austin.

Because a lot of wrestlers would have the oil on, show their dimensions, and it was sweating, and he slipped, and that's how he messed up his neck. That's why when I was a kid, for many years, the power driver was illegal. And what it was was out of safety concerns for the wrestlers, because if they didn't do it right, that means that your head is coming down on the mat, is putting pressure on your spinal cord.

You know, so a lot of the moves are real. So do you know how many kids? Actually got hurt from actually trying to do what they saw. Yeah, doing it on the bed plan and doing the power driver and broken neck and cracked the vertebrate or That's yeah, they used to used to do this disclaimer kids. Don't try this at home Don't try to because you know these these these guys and the level of pain That's why you know, you hear a lot of them, you know end up

Becoming addicted because they addicted to painkillers. Yeah, you know But anyway, so I did get a chance to to watch Both Saturday night and the main event on Sunday night. Oh man Don't sleep on the WNBA I'll say it again These women were balling this weekend. They were balling this weekend. I think it's right now Usually during the summer

Didn't have anything had baseball, you know and then football Well football season started You know people in training camp and So yeah, WNBA man is and I understand it man Caitlyn Clark puts put meat in the seats But there's some sisters out there like the probably the best player on the Indiana fever is not Caitlyn Clark. It's Kelsey Mitchell

Kelsey Mitchell be balling man. They those games yesterday were so good the LA Portland game was good I'm trying to think who played the game before them was it because the fever played Saturday. Hmm. Yeah, so anyway, that was good and This man Who do y'all think I'm in the world series Dodgers Dodgers I mean and this again, they need a salary cap man

They need a real Oh, it's not Oh, it's not either one of them. No, no, no, no, this one is on my program Yeah

That's cheating, man. Bro, that's cheating, man. That's like playing a video game and you putting all players that's 99 because you go from 0 to 99 in ratings. Why do you play? To win.

But 414. I'm with you in the league, though, but when you in the league. Whatever. When you in the league and you have. I don't care you in the wheelchair. I don't care if you blind. Right. You can't see. You can't see. I'm still going to shoot the ball and go buy you. I'm still going to go buy you. You know, come on, man. I need a salary cap, man. OK, whatever. So let me ask you a question right now. I'm always asked this question. So when you're on the playground, right, and you picking the team, I'm picking the best.

OK, no salary cap. It's a talent cap. You go stack the team, right? Yeah, but it's a talent cap, though. Let's see, because after a while, you'd be like, hey, man, let's.

Split these teams up man to make it fair because we know we ain't everybody out. No we ain't man. That's what we know we ain't That must have been Thursday because Sunday when the park is packed, you just loaded up. Oh, that's different. When the park is packed, you want to stay on so you wouldn't run everybody, right? But when it's a few people on the salary cap

And yeah, you want a salad? You don't want a salad cap on Sunday? No, not on Sunday. OK. But I mean, but when the park is kind of, you know, empty those a few guys and you running everybody after a while, it gets boring. So it's like, man, let's split these tears up, man.

So so there'd be even so you can have some competition. I'm talking Sunday in the square Sunday, man, then we stay a lot Sunday in the square man. I mean you sitting up there, man First of all you get up there two hours before you buddy start playing. Yeah, so you can be right? Scout and be first be that first 10 to shoot, right? Like shoot free throws first 10 and whoever make it whatever they locked in and I was come down to the last two

It's always the people that shoot it forever. Then you'd be like, you know what? Just pick because you got people that hold up the whole thing. You had the one dude. You know, he ain't got no game because he's show up in tube socks. Oh, man. Red black and green, red band, red band, and the wristband. But you know what? He's going to pick the best tee. He's going to be, you know, four and a half. And he's that player.

That you don't want holding you cuz even when you don't have a ball he holding

Like man cat at the free-throw line. It's just I mean, you don't know who you don't know basketball, brother Yeah, I just you know, I don't know all y'all out here and just what we're talking about is Detroit wasn't going anywhere the Tigers so they they traded Scoobo the best pitcher in baseball to the Dodgers I mean, but the boys trying to get them. Yeah Everybody was trying to get them But the dot but what I'm saying is that when you have a team It's

To me, I look at baseball and the Dodgers, like the L.A. Dodgers. I like the Kings. And like everybody else is like peasants. Yeah. Thanks for walking in. They like the Yankees? Oh, you little peasants, go off. Hey, man, that's one thing. You can still buy the best team. And then in baseball, then every now and then you get the Marlins, you get the Diamondbacks.

But the team with the payrolls are usually going to do pretty well. And that's why it don't make sense to even be in the league if you don't have the payroll because you're never going to win. So you don't think the brewers ain't going to go? They're going to lose. They can't beat the Dodgers. I don't know who can beat the Dodgers. The Dodgers can't beat the Dodgers. Something's going to happen.

Well now that's life. That's life. That's a great segue into the whole political scene. There are things that are outside. I always try to get DJ to understand this. There are things that are outside of the control of the candidate that you know you can run the perfect you know campaign and then something happen. Right you know and then or something else you you just lucky.

you know uh because uh dj was talking about it on friday he was saying look it was there's a little bit of luck that went into barack obama a little bit of luck things lined up oh yeah things lined up in such a way that had had there been a strong economy when he ran in 2008 it would have been a different story but the economy was teetering uh people have a tendency to the republicans mess it up the democrats have to come and and try to fix it up

And I think people found favor in him because of his mannerisms and his character. So when you see people like that, it didn't start that way. Well, no, I didn't say that it started that way. Because a lot of people think he was black enough. Well, yeah. But after a while, do you see him? And he gains your trust. So it's like, OK. So you look at it, and he's like, he's well mannered.

and you look at his character. Is that what Biden said about him? He's clean and articulate. Yeah. See, but, but don't that go back to like slavery to like hot age? Oh, I think, you know, I, oh, he's a good. Hey, y'all, the phone lines over y'all. Let's be, let's have this conversation this morning because that kind of gets us back to where we are here in Wisconsin. Um, I was having a conversation yesterday with one of the deacons at the church and

I don't know why people would ask my political opinion. What do I know? And we were talking and you know that number out there two weeks out and now less than about a week out from the election where you had 34% of people who were undecided.

On a democratic side. Well, yeah, I mean it says a whole lot now normally this would have been one of those referendums where people would have I'm trying to think like 2018 Where you just saw this massive turnout, you know for an off-year election, but Right now people are kind of now. Let me let me roll back your little bit This

primary is to determine who will represent a particular party in the general election. That's a different thing than the general election. I know a lot of people think it's the same thing. It really isn't. You're just part of a nominating process. There are some states where it's done at convention. It's not done based on people being able to vote. So in Wisconsin right now,

We're seeing democracy at action. Now, I'm sitting up here waiting to hear if Mandela gets back in the race. Okay. Wait. It doesn't even get back in the race because somebody said, hey, now.

So let's talk a little bit about that. Did that break Friday? It must have broke after we got off the air. Yeah. Okay. That letter, I've seen a copy of it. I saw it a few months ago. And so anybody, and look, I'm not in somebody just hooked me up with, okay, here's this letter.

Even Jessica McBride who I've only recently become aware of this very conservative colonists and blogger and influencer, I guess she was going like Really and even the story in the paper with the young lady Look And I know people first of all My understanding no he wasn't married. I don't think she was married

That's a consensual relationship between two adults. And for whatever reasons, people go in and I know, because the whole issue around Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky was that, okay, well, first of all, he was married. But then this whole idea that people in power can use their power then to take advantage of people. There's the other side of this real talk.

is that there are people who are attracted to power, right? And so then there's certain things that go along with that attraction to power. I mean, that so in my mind, it would have been it was, you know, where people go, there's nothing to see here. It says, you know, it says something. But the fact that

You know, as he said, his response was, hey, I had a lot of girlfriends. Well, hey, I ain't mad at you. Play. Play and play. Maybe that would have came out when you read. You would have gone up in some people's eyes, you know, in terms of how people view you. Right. But and look, if the dude who's currently in the White House right now can do what he does and people still vote for him.

You know, I mean it was but I don't know if it was that as much as it was That would come out that also could have been a distraction In terms of because for the Dems Their ultimate goal is to beat Tom Tiffany That's the ultimate goal for Democrats, right? So he's so he's the leading candidate for the Republicans. Yeah, nobody's really running against on the Republican side. Yeah, so I mean he has some opposition, but

It's not. I mean, he's the presumed nominee. So I think people know in the back of their minds. Now, this is Keith Perez. If I'm working on your campaign and I'm looking to say there's some things and I don't know if they can get it done. But if Francesca Hong is the eventual nominee.

There's gonna have to be some imaging. Yeah, they're gonna have to change some images. I you know now people don't want to hear that

I know everybody, you know, just be real. Yeah. Okay. We'd be real. So, hey, y'all, the phone lines open 414-444-525-0. 414-444-525-0. Love to hear what you think. It's Monday. It's been a long time since I've been able to actually talk. We had so many guests last week. Yeah. So again, love to hear what you think. We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back.

All right, welcome back to Community Voice. The phone lines open, y'all. 414-444-525-0. Hey, Clark, can you put the comments back up? Somebody was, okay. Where we go? Where were we? Where were we at? Click on the chat here, Mr. Parris, picture. Nothing beat the figure four leg lock. And that hurts. We're bad at 36 states. That figure four. How many friends you did there? John, listen, we did that at school.

So like the way you put it on people though you good because you get them and turn them around But when they get you locked in with that finger for you tell my somebody screaming that is some pain has anyone of y'all Ever been like that finger for whatever I Don't even know that was wasn't that at one point that was brick flares go to yep

I know it was Nick Bakwinkos going to break your leg. Yeah. There was a guy named Dr X. Man, I'd love Dr X. Dr X. As a matter of fact, I went to the match where he was our mask. He was a masked wrestler. But man, when he put the figure four on, he could sell it. Man, he could sell it.

He could sell it. Anyway, phone lines open 414-444-525-0, 414-444-525-0. Again, Zebra, let me thank you all, those who came down to the WD 11th annual WNOV Resource Fair, we appreciate you. Let me thank the good folks there, the staff at the Clinton Rose Community Center for their hospitality. With all of that said,

Put all of that right out. Do you know I got threatened? You need security security Wow, these are older people and they're threatening me You know, we were given a cash giveaway every hour I'm getting threats do it now Wait a minute man

I gotta go like oh, didn't they get mad at me cuz the number didn't come up look man. It's random It was just like so it was fun now the kids the kids were great. Let me shout out a little Rico and King. Oh, man, they were great You said his name

Yeah, that's why I was telling Ricky said I'll be back at two. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's because he was helping with the drawing. Like, oh, man, the kids were fun. The kids were like, they were just. Debo, Debo was only like somebody granddaddy like.

No, you already won. Get over there. By the time we got to the last one, Deebo had disappeared. It was just me. Just me up there. He got fed up. And you know, and then I'm like, dude, and then I'm lightheaded from giving blood. You know, I'm a real trooper. I gave blood and I got out there and I worked. But man, I'm getting threatened, boy. Let me tell you something. Man, I was like, give me to the car.

You got two, man. They're just, they're the older people, man. No disrespect. So, so question to Debo and Clark. We get you, man. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, seriously. Did I earn my DJ plaque, man? Oh, yeah. Oh, Debo said no. Debo said no. No, you didn't.

I was like, yeah, it was it was rocking it was rocking bad But yeah, let me let me shout out the good folks there and I understand and again for not just the staff of the people we Realized we came in on the Friday. That's normally, you know a day for you guys. So

to accommodate us. People yell at me about food tickets. I don't know nothing about food tickets. You know, anybody know, know me, know that I normally don't eat at these events. So if it comes down to the food, I'm the last person you need to ask because I just, I don't. It shots out to the vendors to them. Oh, yeah, all the vendors that were out. Yeah, all the partner agencies that was out got a chance to

Have conversations with many of them talking about the great services that they offer to the community And again, let me thank Doug Carol and he say all the folks who staff Debo Clark W Byron the WNOV folks to support staff who really put that together because Logistically it becomes a headache now. Here's the benefit even though it rained we were indoors so you know that that

Yeah, it was right. Yeah, because one year we were at the King's Center. We're outdoors, but we had good weather. It was... Wow. So Mr. Musical Director? Yes, sir. How was Saturday? Man, the show was awesome, man. A lot of my brothers did a great job, man. And it was their first show in years. Also, it was their first show without Anthony. Okay. So it was...

You know, it was a tribute. Is there such a thing as music, muscle memory? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because I can because I can remember songs from the 90s. Yeah. But what I'm saying is that you come back and you can kind of find yourself in the same. Yeah. Because like, say, for instance, like songs I haven't heard in years, if if it pop up and you play it in a trigger, something like, oh, I remember and boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. So it I mean, that's just how I'm wired. So I can remember songs from

Yeah, they're just like me. If I hear a song, I say, oh, I remember that song. My brothers never used to play it all the time, but I can't remember that. I'm talking about the performance part of it. Like when you get up and you can, I was at a home going for Sister Phyllis Coleman at Metropolitan. And so after people were kind of...

Quiet was still singing. Yeah, and I kind of went up there and I started singing with them and they were looking at me I said, yeah, because I miss singing with you all. I mean recall it. We had harmony. Yeah, we did three parts And and so when you get I say this And I and I appreciate you and I know that some people give you a hard time if Jermaine was a conductor of the Milwaukee Symphony Orchestra

And music ministry music minister at Zion Hill Church We wouldn't have a problem with Jermaine being the conductor of the Milwaukee Symphony Orchestra that part Yeah, I see exactly where you see what I'm going but but the fact that you know, thank you music and and I had this I had this revelation. It wasn't a revelation It's more of an affirmation of what I just it's always been a part of me

I said it last week. I do believe in celebration. I believe in celebration. I believe in the groove. I believe in the jammy jam. I believe in strong worship. Yeah. You know, it's all the same thing. You know, and so when we're able to come together as a community and celebrate corporately. Yeah.

That's the beauty of our culture that part man. And so when we sit up and go like, you know, Kelly price, I don't think she did any of her religious songs. No, she did all of the but I wouldn't have had a problem. She did because the music is music. Music hits every genre, the jazz, R&B, classical, bluegrass, whatever. Music is like a filler. So you can

How can I explain this? Um, okay prime example Saturday Before David Hollister hit now, you know, David Hollister's R&B The whole R&B set but before he came on the lot of Moors did their gospel stuff from the Lamor album so You had Some people that was like well, I remember them being Jersey Ave and singing baby baby and why why why so some of the people was looking like

okay well you know can you have gospel and R&B on the same stage and yes you can because music is innocent and especially at a community event right now I don't know if you know I should be doing the thong song right at church are you at a church festival

No, you can't do that with your editor. But I've seen it at a community event. I think you tried to get a wide range. It's just, it's all of that. Look, I'm sure, and I can't speak. I wish I would have had that interview with Kelly Price. I'm sure as we lay, and I ain't saying based on experience she had,

But then it could also be amazing grace. I mean, I think these things coexist. Yeah, and and and with adults And I guess back to this whole thing with Mandela. No, those are adult consensual relationships, man Because because they like her version she was the one that had introduced it to the younger generation of the 90s year of the 90s and 2000

So she actually put it out for the earlier generation. But then when Kelly Price came, she was more popular to the young folks. So she was able to... I thought that said the same thing, too, for a minute, but then you said it right. You said it right. Well, I think it's the song. And I've always said this. It's the song, the performer. Look, Otis Reddy did respect. He wrote respect. He recorded respect.

Right. But it wasn't as big as when Aretha Franklin did it. Right. Right. It's the same song. She did her, she did her whole thing on it, you know, that, that last part of it. She, she answered, she changed the speed. I mean, it was, there was things, but it was still, it's, to me, it's always the song. It's always the song. I mean, you got great artists out there, you know, it's like my grandmother, my grandmother could take a piece of leather,

And by the time she got finished with it, it's melting in your mouth. And some people can just take things and make it work. Because, you know, even when Byron Striblin was on from the symphony, he was looking at me like, I'm going like, oh, Allie Willis wrote that song. Because I'm going like, OK, great example. My opening song, there's at least 22 versions of that song.

At least I see it and that why it's a good piece of music and people want a piece of it. Yeah, so is that song? Is that song open at the main? No, not yet. I don't think so. Nope. There are so many versions of it though. Well, they're paying. Oh, okay, you know I'm said that the everything the Donny Hathaway estate

Whoever owns the rights to that song is getting paid every time they recorded and every time it's played so You know you you go and people like Whitney Houston wasn't a songwriter, right? You know so Whitney Houston did other people's songs, you know Someone like Aretha Franklin. She was a songwriter, right? You know and it so I just think that I just love the celebration man I mean, you know when I've had a chance to see them live twice

Parliament Funkadelic That's two two and a half hours just non-stop You know Yeah, yeah, but then at the same time and I've never seen them live and I wish I would have known about the pop-up I would went out to see him like Rickie Dylan new G. Oh, yeah, you know, I mean that there's certain people out there who

you know, they just Fred Hammond, you know, like they got it. I know people may or may not because you so deep in your religion that you might not want to hear this applied to gospel music like there's a groove. Hey, man, Kurt Franklin figured it out. All of it, man, music is innocent, man. You can take, you can take any beat and just have the music, right? It's

It's what you put to it, because the music by itself is instrumental. What should music do? Should music bring joy? Yeah. I mean, well, that's why, too. Or expression of emotion, because as we lay, is more a song about lamenting reasons, is a song about, wow, went into this relationship. And Phil Bailey tells the story he thought.

that it was something really meaningful when he had relations with the woman. And she's just getting with him because he was filled daily with earth, wind and fire. Yeah. So then it was like, oh, now the fact that you set up a matter, I don't know if you set up and thought that that was going to be love forever. You know, come on, man, you know, what, what, what, you know, that is what that is. Yeah, but it's a moment. Got a comment? All right, Carla, welcome to the program.

Yeah, you were supposed to have appointments. Yeah. You weren't the brother that came in without the appointment when I was there, were you?

No, no they were they were trying because there weren't some people had appointments though, but by the end

They had appointment slots available. People could go in afterwards because we made an announcement. It must have been about 130 that people go in if they still wanted to give blood who didn't have an appointment. But I appreciate you coming out being willing to do it. But at that first group, there were people there with actual appointments because I had one. I was the first one and they told me we had a way.

You can't donate no blood right now. I don't have it, man. This is sweet blood I'm trying to do y'all. Yeah, did you see me up in there? There was some other people up in there too, bro. Well, nobody up in there. Well, I'm looking for my blood. No, you pulled up what I pulled up. When I went up in there to donate the blood, over there to the blood thing. Right. The girl was up there, told me that. Right. So I said, I'll come out to you down to her D-Bosies. We don't have nobody here now. They don't want to take my blood. Well, you can always go down to there and go down to Thrive on King.

They'll take him without an appointment. Down on King Drive and Garfield? Yeah. But I appreciate that. I know they appreciate it. I'll mention another question. One more time. Let me get off. If they hear anything about Ken, my friend Ken, that used to come down there all the time. I hear that he passed away. And I want to know for sure that he really passed away. Ken, he used to come out here to the center all the time. He was on the show out there one time. OK. Well, I wouldn't know.

I don't even know if they want me to come back because the threats I was getting. Yeah, I'm such a nice guy. Yeah, I know that. I know that. I do remember him because he pulled up on that bike when I was walking in.

Yeah, I'm a big baby. You know what she did, right? She just covered up when she put the needle in.

Yeah, yeah, blood pressure was already high. Well, I mean for me, I just watch y'all man and I Amen, I'm off to the side like great job Keith For giving blood because people need it man Great job because if it wasn't for you, they wouldn't have what they got so Congratulations. I was watching this this this piece on the mob

And man, it actually was better than I thought it was going to be. And I think it was when John Gotti had killed Castellano. I don't know anybody watching the Westies. That is serious. The Westies, oh man, that is such a good series talking about, there was a gang. They call it Hell's Kitchen. It's Midtown, New York, the West Side.

and these Irish gangs or this Irish gang. It is really good, man. I mean, it is things. It was like, but it's good. But anyway, the guy, he was the FBI agent who was on scene when they took him, took I think Paul Castellano, who got killed outside the steakhouse to the hospital. No, no, no, no, no, no. It was Joey Gallo.

Joey Gallo. He was the guy who did this whole Italian American like the NAACP for Italians. He ended up getting killed at a rally shot. He's bleeding. He didn't die right away. He's at the hospital. One of the cops who was doing surveillance with him had, they said the doctor came out and said, we need blood. And I guess this guy has that universal blood that anybody could get.

So he said nothing knowing this he said I was torn and I don't know if he ever decided that he gave blood But here I am giving blood to a criminal, right? That was kind of crazy. That was kind of crazy So anyway, you're listening to we got break. Yeah

You're listening to Community Voiced. Phone lines open, y'all. 414-444-5250-414-444-5250. Gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back. With your host, Keith Parris. All right, well, yeah. What? Yeah, my little putty-tame moment. Oh, yeah. Let's see. We said, look away if you have to.

been there done that there's people really have a needle phobia. That's real. No, seriously, because when I got the shots in my knees, the first thing he told me, he said, don't look because if you look, it's going to it's going to send that signal from your brain to your body. And so like the first one, I didn't feel because I was looking away and I didn't know when it happened. But the second one happened to turn and look and soon as I

Saw it. I felt the pain and I'm like this is crazy because I just got it in my left knee man. I I could tell you Wanted I always learn this second time I've had to go through physical therapy and physical therapists are so good telling you about your body and how your body works, right and And so there were things in there one of the things that had caused the fall was

My brain remember when I stepped in had slipped before yeah Now I'm trying to adjust but I don't have a balance to do it. Yeah, bam because you walk into avoid pain, right? You know like I didn't realize that my pelvis was out of place until I went to the chiropractor and But then talking about I was in worse pain

because now I'm using muscles way I have not used it before. I think about when at the beginning, when we'd have like trials at the beginning training camp for basketball, one of the common elements people got were shin splits, right? Those those those ligaments that run along your bone there, but you haven't been using them that way. And so that's where you get them from, you know, like, oh man, I'm using these muscles

So you got the muscles, you got tendons, you got all those things going on. And we were talking, I don't know if we were talking about it last week, but how it used to be ACL was a career ender, like, oh, and Achilles. But now based on medical science and the advancement in science, they're able to rebuild where people are actually stronger than they were before. And so,

because we talked about I think the name that came up was Gail Sears and how he had just two career-ending knee surgeries. But who, oh man, my guy, Paul. George? Oh, Paul George. Remember when he, man, he had that leg at the Olympic festival? He almost died, didn't he? Yeah, he was in bad shape. The fact that he was able to come back and play. The guy that played for Boston.

A white guy. There was a shooter. What was his name? He came from Charlotte. He was a shooter. And he got all of that money. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He came from Utah. Yeah. And he got hurt against the box. Yeah. Yeah, man. I mean, you could do some. Like I said, when I had fallen away, my leg had twisted. I thought, oh, man, that's a ligament.

at least not hopefully if it's cartilage or ligament. But I guess because it was not a violent fall, I was able to kind of brace myself, but I was looking like a pretzel man. I was twisted. And then fell and hurt the other knee. It was like, oh, but it's pain. So now, not only am I dealing with pain in my back, I'm dealing with pain in my knees.

So walk in is like, uh, how do I avoid the pain in my knees? How do I avoid the pain in my back? So I got a question for you. Is it that it's pain in your body or is it that your brain is telling your body to feel something? No, it's pain. It's the nerve endings. That's why when the guy was telling me how you apply ice and heat, like what it does is it brings down the swelling. Cause a lot of times it's just swelling, right? I get it.

Well, the only reason why I asked that is because when I just said about the needle, right? Looked away. I didn't feel anything. He said, well, that boy good. He's thinking about it. Needle. No, but when I looked away, I didn't feel it. But as soon as I saw it, my brain told my body was going to hurt. So so. But my thing is from the first injection, I didn't feel it because I didn't see it. Right. So.

was it that the pain was still there and my brain didn't register it? Or did he give you a local? Huh? Did he give you a local? No, no, no. He just rubbed some type of... That's a local. Tell the numbing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he did it on the other knee, too. Yeah, but you can still... Like, when I got the two shots for a moment, I felt that needle.

It felt like yeah and some pain because I did a audible Oh, you know, it was like oh man And it was cuz the needles in there and even though they've given me something to sedate make our Korean some more, okay? Take you back to the 60s and 50s when you had to go to the dentist And they used to give you that shot and you know

But they won't put your gun. Yes. Oh, when it were all. I was not seeing the needle man. I passed out. No, I got a wisdom tooth. I passed. Yes. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. Yeah. But this particular wisdom tooth, a set of coming up like this, it was coming like this impacted. Yeah. So they had to cut around the gun and go in deep.

So what he did was he numbed it and he was like, well, you're not going to feel the pain. You're going to feel the pressure. So you can feel the whole. Yeah. Out of that. Then when he saw that the smoke coming out. But I actually felt like when he got the tooth halfway up and then they cut it. Because it's on the nerve. It's on the nerve. Yeah. But doc, when I tell you he was in there.

You know, trying to get it loose for so long. The Nova can wore off, yep. So my mouth, he's pulling my mouth like this, and I had grabbed the doctors hand like this. And he said, if you grabbed me, I'm gonna stop pulling in this too. I said, this is exactly what I said. If you stop pulling this too, I, yeah, I ain't gonna say that. But I told him I was gonna whoop a fit on you.

Better he got it done though. Thank you black Jesus. He got it. Amen. If you leave me in this pain, you go and I'm gonna tell his office. Oh, it would have to do with it. He removed the tube. He had the number a couple of times because sometimes they might have to go so he had he said you can eat you know and and I hate when they numb that because

It's like, if you don't feel it, don't feel it at all. He said, so you can eat. So, man, I go to my little go-to meal. This happened, man, almost 30 years ago. I had a lung abscess that burst. So I had all this infection in my back, right? Oh, wow. And so Rhonda was going, we'd only been married about, ooh, April, September, about five months. Rhonda had to go to Boston.

And so two of her coworkers to come and take a look at Keith. And I couldn't half eat, man, because I eat, I cough. It was awful. I lost like 20-something pounds. And so they brought me, when I was feeling better, they brought me a club from Cousins. It was good. I mean, it was so good. So when I went in after this whole dentist thing, what's my go-to after I had done some kind of medical thing, right? So I go to Cousins, give me, so man, I got club.

The club was good. I could only chew on one side of the ground. And they said, now you're going to take an antibiotic and you're going to take a pain pill. But the antibiotic and pain pills look just alike. So I took two antibiotics. Man, that anesthesia wore off. It felt like somebody was driving a spike. Oh, man. Rhonda's running. You know where?

The health clinic is out on Fond du Lac and Red Cross Street from Greater Newburgh. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Milwaukee Health. Well, that used to be family health care. And Rhonda was the clinic manager there. Oh. So I call her. I say, I'm in pain. What should I do? Can you talk to one of the doctors to see? I think I took two. Can I? She said, OK. 10 minutes, 20 minutes. Your mouth dropped.

30 minutes. I ain't heard nothing. So now I'm calling back. Like I'm in pain here. Oh, I forgot. I don't think she knew. Man, pain, pain is, uh, but you know, pain is also a teacher.

Yes pain is also you learn you learn a whole lot from your pain and you know one and your brain is trying to trying to say here's how you avoid the pain right you know um swelling will kind of immobilize you that means you shouldn't walk on it right if you notice dogs when they've got a hurt leg they ain't trying to walk on the leg. Human beings get out there trying to walk on the leg. That's the only way man that would heal.

If you don't walk on it. Oh, you're inactive. Yeah, and it kind of gets us back to when you see people like these pro athletes and What they're able to do they have the best physical training now look the pts that I went to these these folks are They're off the chain, but when you look at and it's almost like an animal and I consumer beings are animals Where you look at all the things they can do they can do infrared

They can do massage therapy. They use acupuncture, you know, like dry needleings, all these things to get these athletes back in shape. I was looking at the Fija Collier yesterday. That girl can play. Oh, my God, that woman is so good. Oh, man. And she was talking about, because she's coming from, she had ankle surgery on both ankles. And she was saying how it's one thing when you run in and doing your whole conditioning, it's another thing when you're in the game.

because, you know, when you're doing conditioning, it's like, let's say you run in sprints, boom, boom, boom, boom, run back, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Basketball is start, stop, you know, like you run in one direction. I used to do a drill, I was bringing back a memory where the guys would be running sprints, you blow the whistle, you got to turn and run the other way, right? Because it's getting you used to doing the game, you know, that's how the game works. Like you got to turn over, you got to turn to get back.

And all you ever heard me say is get back. Get back. You need to get back on defense, right? But doing those drills, so all that. So when you actually in the game, it's different. And you also got, you know, the anxiety of now trying to get out here and perform. I was playing the game one time and it was a big game for these kids. And I had to call the time out like a minute and a half into the game because kids were hyperventilating. They were just that.

Hiked up, wow, you know, to play. But I understand how our body works. I think the example I gave somebody was, when you get a new car, oh man, you don't have to do a lot of maintenance on it. But as that car gets older, you know, there's things that you have to do. And that's the same thing with our bodies, that how we maintain our bodies. The way I ate at 20, I can't eat at this age.

You know, I mean it was because at 21 I'm burning every calorie And it probably wasn't real healthy then because you look at athletes now the one thing they will tell you is Two things you got the exercise piece of but there's two other things diet and rest You know for your body just to be able to Be able to recover so it's when you look at the body and and how we maintain the body I was talking to Mandela

And you know, he's a runner but he said the same thing. He said your core got to be strong That's that area your domino and all of that. So a lot of the PT exercises I do now has everything to do with building up my core Providing good support for my back learning how to to walk right You know Like I said, man, that's what I said to the PT. I said, you know

I could just get my Denzel Washington walk back. I'm good. But now she said, no, you want to do Barack Obama? I want to do Barack Obama coming down the stairs. Nobody comes down the stairs like Barack Obama. Other than my former roommate at Mount St. Mary's, Mr. Eric D. MacDair, Eric always came down the stairs sideways. He just had this coolest way of coming downstairs, come downstairs. Caller, welcome to the program.

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I've been listening for a minute and I didn't know that you had a situation that took place. So I hope you are okay. Oh man, a lot better. Yes, I'm experienced. So as a matter of fact, right, I'm going to take my walker out to a new walker. You were on a walker? Man, I was on a walker. Yeah, I'm gonna take the walker out the new birth. What?

You know why I was on the walker though? Because originally I was going to do it. I was doing a cane. I did the walker so I would walk properly. You know, like I'm balanced in my walking. That's what the walker does. Provides that support. Where the cane, I could go either way. So I was walking wrong. So I'm still putting pressure on the area that's injured. So what the walker just kept me upright. So you're on a cane now? No, no.

No Walker. No, okay. Oh, right. Okay. You got you are in full possession of your faculties Yeah, and I'm getting stronger. So when I saw the orthopedic I he asked me how I was I said about 85% I'm never going to be totally totally pain-free Let them get you on drugs No

Hopefully the only drug I have to take is that steroid shot that I took. In tumor. How many of that do you think? Yeah, that too. Because of the inflammation of the nerves. Oh man, I'm on Tylenol, you know, every morning I'm up taking Tylenol. And I have not had to take a lot of pain pills because I don't like taking pain pills. Don't do it. Right, you know, but and then if it gets real bad, I'll take some of the lead.

But it really hasn't, you know, I'm just building up strength. I'm walking more. So, you know, so. Can you try ginger tea with turmeric, black pepper, honey, black and green tea? OK. This is also what I wanted to say to you all. You were talking about training. When I ran track 100,000 years ago, we trained with the basketball players.

And the reason for that is because at a moment's notice, the basketball players have to pivot. So they have strong ankles. And, you know, they obviously said they're going to break your ankles. But the people who were on track, like, especially the sprinters, the sprinters trained with the basketball players to teach strength for endurance and the courage. If you run like four by one or four or the 200.

Any other relays your ankles have to be strong because usually the first person in the curves is the one that's gonna be the winner and usually the fastest people are in the first Four lanes when it comes to sprinting. So all in all, I hope you may Allah Keep you strong get you stronger look for homeopathic thing. I worked in produced pharmaceuticals and

Some people are probably going to get a say about what I'm about to say. But being exposed, the way that some pharmaceuticals are produced, like radio, pharma in particular, it's a dangerous process. And the product that is produced, it has been radiated.

You understand what I'm saying, right? So when it comes to synthesis and making things, synthesis and sin, look at that, synthetic materials are not good for organic material. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. Synthetic things will arrest the situation and they could cause the manifestation of something.

which could lead to something that's detrimental to a organic material. Have you, uh, have you ever had, did steroids have steroid shot or? No, sir. I follow the teachings of the most honorable lives of Mohammed as best as I can. I'm gonna say this because my baby called me the product of concern.

I hope that doesn't mean I'm evil or anything like that. Because a lot of them call me to produce and manifest to contribute to the continuation of evil things. I understand why. And really what I'm asking you, Christopher, is I think that there has to be a balance. There are some times where

Well, I don't want to use to do it use the word radical. You might have to do something that's outside right outside of your norm And and and so I think there just has to be I don't like taking prescription drugs even though I am on blood pressure medication and I'm on a statin You know for cholesterol, but that's working to the farm the pharmacologist the pharmacy person

He knows more about the chemical composition of anything that a doctor would prescribe for you. So the pharmacist is the best person when it comes to the molecular construction of any synthesized material, when it comes to medicine, that's the best person to speak with outside of the doctor because the doctor is going to look at your symptoms and they'll

understanding from that perspective but the scientific understanding of what the synthesized material that you might be prescribed the best understanding of that is the pharmacist because he has the broadest knowledge about how he will interact with organic matter. You know chemotherapy or radiation therapy you know I mean where you know you have something that could be

where that is destructive to organisms, particularly human beings. But at the same time, done correctly, it becomes a benefit. And that's always been the thing with science and medical science is how do you balance the medical good because there is no anything that people take where there's not going to be some type of, what do you call that?

No, I'm stuck for words this one What is it when you have some you have a reaction to it side effects there you go I mean because what the what the body is doing right, but then it could be temporary and Then in the long run then it's able to go in and stabilize Whatever it is or rest whatever it is that you're dealing with

when it comes to chemicals and chemotherapy and radiation, and one is heavier than the other. Radiation is absolutely radical. If you have radiation stronger, you're in a real acute state by that time. Yeah, but both of those things are, ultimately, both of those approaches are detrimental to organic matter, and you can do this yourself with bleach and poured on a leaf. Oh yeah, oh yeah.

And it impacts other parts. It can impact your organs. You know, the question people ask is, is this, is the side effects, does the benefit, no, no, no, no, no, no. Was the benefit outweigh some of the negative reaction or responses that you have? And I think we balance that, you know, every day. Like I could, I could take a certain drug.

and it's gonna cause me, it's a diuretic, right? So I'm constantly urinating. Well, that opens up the door for dehydration, right? So then I have to make sure that I'm fully hydrated. So it's always a balance and I agree with you, it's natural is better, right? Everything, can I say this? And then I will go. Most of the things we come to, and here is,

I mean, I know they get mad. I brought out the chemistry because I know this. When it comes to the pharmaceutical sciences, and that's why I'm speaking higher with regard to the pharmacists because they understand the chemistry that is involved more so than the doctor. And when you've been involved in the production of these things and you've been actually exposed, when it comes to radiated things,

They have to do with doses and exposure when it comes to medicine that has been produced, whether it has been produced, when it all comes to maturity, has been synthesized. The theory of it all is that because pharmacology is so awesome, or pharmaceuticals, I should say, not pharmacology. Pharmaceuticals or pharmaceutical industry is so awesome and powerful.

The good things that are natural which will actually help you more a lot better than something that has been synthesized That's not promoted as much as it was in the past as it is now It's easier for you to go pop appeal than it is for you to make tea In a way when the Chris Rock who said that the money is not in the cure the money is in the treatment

In the treatment, right? So they're not trying to cure you. They are resting your symptoms for a moment, but yet you're being strung along and you're being, you actually are being addicted to something. And when it comes to that blood pressure pill, you should definitely use a lot, a lot of, use a lot of turmeric. You can use turmeric as much as you want and as a red pepper or black pepper. And try that because it has to do with your nose and they're inflamed and that's why you're feeling pain.

ginger tea and things like that. Look for natural ways to keep your body on the inside, start on that physiology, biochemistry. I study clinical laboratory sciences with an emphasis on biomedical experiences and UW-Milwaukee. I study chemistry in Milwaukee area, Technic College. So anyway, I'm not trying to brag about it, but when it comes to organic matter,

which is carbon-based, which we are. That's why we can turn this black when it dies. Turn back to carbon. And carbon is where diamonds are the basis with pressure. Be careful of things that people who have the ability to prescribe you, as opposed to someone who knows the actual effect of it on an organic based.

material being. Does that make sense? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Thank you. I appreciate you. You're listening to Community Voice. Phone lines open 414-444-45250. 414-444-45250. You need a medical diagnosis. The phone lines open. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back.

414-444-525-0. And let me, and I didn't realize that this happened this weekend, but let me shout out the Milwaukee Community Journal. They celebrated 50 years, and Black Press is alive and well in the city of Milwaukee. And so shout out to them. I remember when they started.

So, we need to do that. We need the black press. Black press is so important because it gives a perspective that legacy media doesn't always do. So, we appreciate you in the work, Ms. Petillo. We thank you. We thank you. We thank you. Again, y'all, the phone line's open. 414-444-5250. Also, let me, and I don't know if he's listening,

But let me think, Pastor Marcus Allen, I think his insight in terms of the Corey Ruiz case in Madison was.

Right, you know, on point gave us a different understanding of why that particular shooting in terms of community reaction might look a little bit differently than it did in other communities. And so I know he does a good work there at the Mount Zion Church there in Madison, but let me that was just good. I mean, it was

It wasn't hyperbole. I mean, it was to the point, stuck with the facts. Hey, here's the situation. Here's how it's, here's how it's going to resolve itself. And, you know, right when we think or want to believe or hope that things have changed, we realize that the more things change, the more they stay the same. So we know just like when we've had our incidents here,

how we support so really as much as we can. Let's support the community of Madison, see if they can do the right thing and that justice will be done. It's unfortunate. And when people are running around here, especially Negroes, who are critical of the critical race theory, you know, this is another example.

of how an adjusted system is not just what people get in the court system. It's their interaction with law enforcement and how there is implicit bias there. And people don't always recognize nor appreciate nor respect our humanity. And that's why you could have a situation where there is a person who's not black

pose more of a threat and they were able to walk away as opposed to black folks who didn't pose that great of a threat or no threat at all and they lost their lives, you know, that is still part of America's DNA and We have to continue continue to continue to work towards justice when it comes to that, you know, you you want to Hear that America should be colorblind

I think that genie's out the bottle. I don't I don't think we're ever gonna be colorblind America should be fair America should be equitable America should be just and then we need to take in consideration that there are physical differences that people have we might have physical differences in terms of appearance but the humanity is still the same we have shared humanity and I think that that's one of the

residual effects of enslavement that black people would never consider fully human. And I think that is after 400 years in this country, here in North America, 400 years in North America, 250 years of this country, that is just hard, difficult for people. First of all, people even realize that there's a problem because there are a lot of European Americans who don't believe that there's a problem.

because, again, they're perch of privilege. And then what segregation does is you don't get a chance to then experience what another human being who looks different than you might be experiencing because you're so segregated. And then people then are going to be able to fall on stereotypes and myths and all these other things. And then let me say this to...

descendants of enslaved Africans and descendants of Africans who are here in North America. We need to do, we need to appreciate our humanity. I don't know if we always do a good job of even appreciating our humanity because I don't know how you can appreciate someone else's humanity if you don't appreciate yours. And so all those things where we have to reject

internalized racism. We have to reject the personification of white supremacy, where the reaction is a certain level of, and I used the term black inferiority. A lot of it's in our mind. Well, racism's real, that ain't in our minds. What I'm saying is how we react and respond to it is how we view ourselves.

So I tried to catch people when they call in and they just, you know, tearing black folks down. And I'm going like, dude, first of all, that ain't a benefit. And, you know, people get on me, man. I'll talk to DJ and our production meeting on Thursday. We have to do Hater Nation because the haters, man, which I am one, the haters out there, man, where you just, you know,

I was watching something just looking at something on Facebook and The first thing that came out this person's mouth was how much the person was making Man that that that is the most basic level of hate That you know you you get mad cuz somebody's making money You don't think they should deserve of course if you in that position you gonna take whatever they give you right? I mean it's things like that that kind of trips me out

um in terms of how we we sit there jealousy and envy you know all of these things um you know and and a lot of us will walk around and we were taught our biblical scholarship it's not so much if you know scripture it's if you live scripture again it's not your knowledge of scripture

how you live scripture and that that's that's the disconnect that's the disconnect because you know if you're a follower of Jesus and I'm gonna go in and this is being anecdotal where you know I hear more and more we talk about eternal life and we're talking about salvation and we go on and on and on but any studying of Jesus

you will find that the thing that Jesus focused on is how human beings should comport themselves with other human beings. They have compassion, right? To feed people who are hungry, to clothe those who are naked. That's human interaction. And I remember growing up hearing this and you know, people used to say, your good deeds won't get you in.

Make logical sense your good deeds won't get you in Why not When Jesus taught us to do good deeds why if we're following Jesus and following what Jesus taught us and instructed us to do Then why then wouldn't it get us in? Well, you know

I mean, that's really a good question because you really don't know unless you go ask somebody that's on the other side. Okay. But I just think that if you live how Jesus lived, then you should be all right. And when I say that, I mean, like as far as how he treated people.

the compassion he had for people. So when he saw a need, he met the need. So I think if you, if you can live your life under that umbrella. You know, and I understand, um, and that's, that's, that's, that's, that's insightful because a lot of growing up is.

I'm learning some of the things that we've learned when we were young. And it might have made sense then, or maybe it did make sense, is just what people taught. But when, I don't know, if the motivation, and maybe this is unfair, but if the motivation is that I do good so I can get to heaven, okay, that's good.

But then Paul talks about how people was it Paul to James who talked about people being lovers of good In other words that if you love doing good, right? You're gonna do good. You're gonna do good, you know, and and what's more important Where you know, we're talking about and look for black folks this was Part of our theology

was we had to do deferred gratification. And what do I mean by that? We basically had to die in order to get our reward. And I think it's permeated some of our theology in terms of how we look at things. But there was a piece there where the slave master, who was also a practicing Christian, was able to reap reward and be fully human here.

Then what about the enslaved African why couldn't he or she and and and that so I think it's always about humanity is created religions created for for humanity But I think it's how we deal with each other. I think that that becomes That I mean, you know, we we we can and I don't know if people think because you do that little incantation

That you know that you know, yes, I believe I'm a sinner. Yes, I believe Jesus died for my sins, you know and and you go on Okay, the acknowledgement of that and that is more symbolic than anything ain't no power in it by the way The question is if I'm a follower if I'm a disciple that means that then I'm a practitioner of what I've been taught as a disciple if you're taking

Take one do is that like you're learning that but then you apply those life principles to your life And I don't know if we if if if it's that I think it's it's a whole lot of And again, I think it's well mean I don't think is is is malicious I Wasn't

When I when I say that as you get older there should be questions Some things are not apparent and or immediately apparent so there should be questions We talked about doubt Skepticism there should be a level skepticism. I don't know if and and and then how much or even what I believe can be butchers by facts now, that's the other thing about religion religion is not

Based on fact religion is based on belief. How do I have a balance between what I know and what I believe? You know, I mean that I can believe something but that don't make just because I believe it that's true and You know, I have people because people argue with me. I'll say one plus one is two But here comes the Negro well

Well, no, no, no, no, no, no. I was going to say, I was going to say, if if there's proof, if there's proof of it, you know, that one plus one is to there's really no pushback. Oh, yeah, there's still pushback. Really? Yeah, it was something that DJ said, DJ Hines, OK, where, you know, he was saying, in effect, we get people permission to question.

They don't need your permission. They are already questioning it. You get up, they are, I mean, that's what human beings as adults, adults say no before they say yes. Right? We say no before we say yes. So yeah, they're out there and then here's the other piece of it. Now just me being the free thinker that I am and I really believe in free thinking is that you should be questioning when somebody gets up before you.

And you might want to ask a question. Now here, there's a difference in asking a question and dismissing it, you know, just dismissing it. I ain't going to even think about it. I believe what I believe. I believe what I believe. And notice I'm not using saying I know what I know. I believe what I believe. The problem with belief is that belief is fluid. Sometimes belief is based in fact. Sometimes belief is just based in belief.

And I have people arguing with me about facts. Yes, we can have a better understanding of facts. But the last time I checked, the last time I checked, if I run into that glass, it's gonna do some physical damage, okay? Maybe in your mind, there's an exception, like you was talking about, if I think about a thing. But I think that we have put so much on belief.

But then and here's the contradiction of living we also put an enormous amount of premium on materialism Right Let's if you look at in the Old Testament for you Christians us Christians in the Old Testament a blessing was materially what you had So if you were materially well off you were blessed you were righteous

And that's how we gauged it. Look at things differently now to understand that I could be the most materially blessed person in the world with poor health. How many of us, if I'm looking at the possibility of death and having wealth, what becomes more important to me? Be poor and alive, right? So I'm just saying that sometimes it's okay.

Not that you need my permission. It's okay to think. It's okay to question. But look for the answer. That's the second part of that. A lot of times, you know, when I tell people to look it up, they're not going to look it up because they don't want to stop believing what they already believe. And the facts are going to push up against what I believe. That's hard. There's some things that I really believe.

And then only upon further review what flag is that the reflect? Oh That was wrong Okay, that was wrong and so Yeah, I think that when you that's the thing I like about good dialogue when we have Someone just asked a question our vision is real Hmm

Big more Pacific When you say visions, you know, I I still believe No, I believe take that word out There are still prophets today There's still prophets there's always been prophets yeah and and Because what prophets certainly if you look at the Old Testament and prophets

They spoke to justice and against injustice that was their primary role and Then you have hear your options if you do this you can avoid this Malcolm X was a prophet Martin Luther King was a prophet. I believe Jeremiah Wright is a prophet You know there are people out there who have insight

and they're calling society to justice and righteousness. I was listening to someone, and it's funny how we equate as sin. And they were going on about smoking, drinking, doing drugs, you know, the Vic 3. Oh, did I say sex? Vic 4. You know, sin. That's that. Now, this is Keith.

Upon further review, a lot of it is just some real bad physical habits that's going to have impact on you materially. Okay? So sometimes it's how you use what you use. And then the other thing is, again, I think some of the greatest sin is how human beings deal with each other.

And it seems to me that I need to be better at how I treat Clark and how I treat Jermaine, right? I think that that's going to be my ultimate judgment. We'll see. Carla, welcome to the program. Good morning. Hey, how you doing? How you doing? I'm doing good, man. OK, I have a question I want to ask you. Yes, sir.

Do you think there's a connection between your maturity and your temper? You say that again. Do you think there's a connection between your maturity and your temper? Yes. Okay. How? As I become more mature, I should have a better handle on how I control my temper. Okay, okay. That's because

I've got nothing in your motion. The strongest motion that you have is anger and love. The nervous is a little more temperate than your anger. There's another one out there too, fear. Fear, okay, yeah. Yeah, I mean, but fear is for survival. You know what I mean? I mean, fight or flight is for our survival. Fear is for our survival. We talk about what we call love, but a lot of times what we call love's certainly between

to human beings I mean is romantic love well that's also physical desire that physical desire is there for so for us to procreate that's the biological reason for it right but yeah fear our anger our ability how do we handle tough situations but as I mature one I should be mindful of that behavior and to whatever I can then do to modify

the behavior. Some people with quick tempers, maybe their maturity is they don't get as angry as quickly. But I think it's a process, especially if that's been your modus operandi for many years. You know, like you've been able to go in and some people, man, what is it? James tells us to help Lord help right on my tongue. You know, because we can get the talking crazy. Yeah, I was listening to some brothers talking about

Playing cards and I'm surprised that no more they're not more homicides around spade games You be here some folks going like I'd be wanting to go for my gap like

Oh man that's good right and I heard a guy say that that that fear is a is a sin I'm not gonna go that far he said because the opposite of fear is faith right so but I will say that fear has a biological

reason there that that fear helps us you know we were talking earlier about the brain right and how the brain will have a memory about you have been a painful episode and then the brain is telling you need to avoid that because that caused pain right all right man I gotta wrap it up appreciate you let me call the callers all two of you

Thank you. You ain't right off. Thank you, sir. Debo, thank you. Young Carvey, good seeing you. Good seeing Carvey, boy. Debo, thank you, everybody. Hey, y'all, the good Lord Will and Creek. Don't rise. Hope to talk to everybody tomorrow and as always, go from this place in peace.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Welcome to Community Voice.

I'm your host, Keith Parris.

I want to thank everybody for joining us this morning.

Clark Kent, what's happening?

Who is it?

Clark over there, man.

He all like plugged in, got

earphones all.

Got the laptop going.

Professor Glam

is

on.

Like

he's

just in college.

Like he's in school.

I would go old school cartoons.

Simon Barsenister.

Simon.

Simon.

Simon.

Simon.

Simon.

Simon.

Simon.

Simon.

Simon.

Simon.

Simon.

Simon.

Simon.

Simon.

Every third Saturday man in September.

I'm there to be like big my mama to give me some Frosted flakes and let me do real

in

front of the TV real milk instead of pet milk Powder milk powder So anyway, good morning.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Oh Man,

they don't make cartoons like that no more man, huh?

I said man, they don't make cartoons like

that.

You know though when Kennedy was little I had

I watched so much Paw Patrol.

Ah, I watched so much Paw

Patrol, dude.

Now with her, with her mom and her uncle, they were watching Thomas

the

train.

Blues Clues,

yeah.

And Blues Clues, now it's Bluesies.

Dude, we'd be sitting there and she'd come in and she has an attention span of a net.

So it'd be like.

I want to watch, I want to watch Paw Patrol.

Then we watch Paw Patrol, then maybe five, 10 minutes into it, and I want to watch something else.

So I don't know how much of that was her feel like she was in control of

her little life.

Man, Powerpuff Girls was something that my daughter had me watching when she was a little Powerpuff Girls.

I want to watch Powerpuff Girls.

Mojo Jojo.

I hate to do this, man, but if I do a recap of my weekend.

Wow.

Saturday was just, you know, rain, rain, rain, and then it rained.

So I'm glad that some folks were able to get their events in.

The weather cleared enough for them to get their events in.

I know the United Negro College Fund, it was raining so hard, you know, but it looks like Christian Faith got their event and they were under 10.

I

mean,

even if they was out in the open, they was just dipping people in the water.

I don't think anybody got baptized.

You sure?

I don't

know.

I don't know.

I don't know if they went in that water.

That water was cold.

The blood in the land.

A warm yellow in the shivers.

But part of Direct TV is that you get Hulu and you get that ESPN plus.

So I was able to watch SummerSlam.

Ah, The Wrestler.

I had watched one of those main events.

First of all,

They were in the The Minneapolis Stadium, I don't know if it's still the Metrodome that building is incredible.

Oh, you're too much.

They had two nights.

Yeah, they had two nights where that place was sold out.

Oh, they made some money.

Oh, they made bank man.

Oh, God.

And then Usually you do pay per view.

You don't get commercials.

Right.

Oh, you got commercials with this

so on

top of that.

Yeah, so you know you had that so I got a chance to

to watch, did Romans reigns win last night?

Yeah.

He did, didn't he?

Yeah.

I mean, it was scripted.

Huh?

Nothing.

Xperia C would have jacked.

Oh,

man, come on, man.

It is

scripted.

I was.

It's entertainment,

man.

And

then Hell in the Cell, what's the African dude?

Yeah.

He won.

See, it didn't used to be like he was Brock Lesnar.

Did he?

Yeah, he beat Brock Lesnar.

Now, I remember back in the day, and it was probably scripted then.

It's always been scripted.

Yeah, I mean, but it was, but it was covered up so good, you couldn't tell.

So are you, you know, you didn't know who was going to win those matches, like the Steel Cage matches and all of those matches or the last man in the ring or the Royal Rumble type thing.

So you didn't know who was going

to

win.

One of the craziest matches.

I can remember it was hell in the cell.

It was the undertaker against mankind.

And when he threw him man through the top, he was supposed to body slam him on the top of the.

The the cage right the cage gave and do fell out look like almost 50 feet And the undertaker said I thought I thought Mick was dead.

Yeah, he got up man That was one of the

craziest things like ever and that one scripted.

No, no

That was a

malfunction.

Yeah, and that was coming after Owen Hart.

Yeah, right, you know when the harness broke.

Yeah, so

Man, but yeah, that was one of the craziest hells in the cell I'd ever seen man, and then they put the tax down.

I mean, Nick Foley, you know, genius, dude's brilliant.

But man, he talked about putting his body on the line.

You know, now, my favorite character he did, I love mankind, but dude love.

Dude love is like like one of the great wrestling characters of all time, man.

So whatever happened to the Ultimate

Warrior?

He had

passed away.

Yeah, he couldn't wrestle.

What?

He couldn't wrestle.

I

mean,

right.

I mean, Hulk Hogan got over because, you know, he was Hulk Hogan.

He couldn't wrestle.

Yeah, but the Ultimate Warrior, Ultimate Warrior, he couldn't wrestle.

I mean, but he was winning though.

Yeah, well.

He wasn't

playing, he wasn't wrestling.

But

he had some nice moves, though.

Well, he beat, it was the match, though, when he came in, he beat, was it Hulk Hogan?

Yeah, he beat one

of those.

It's almost a minute into the match,

but he

couldn't wrestle, and that was part of it.

And then they said that behind the scenes, you know, he just wasn't, he just wasn't with it.

You know, they do it, God, I'm trying to think what, it's called the dark side of the ring.

And you get a chance to get into a lot of these backstories, you know, like they had to do who was the dude who killed his wife

and his son

and they got into his thing Oh Chris been

what Chris Chris?

Yeah, yeah,

and and and they taught and I remember when it happened that That happened over the weekend that Monday, you know, they came out.

They do it all this morning.

You know, oh man, Chris They didn't know what it happened.

So it was like

steroid use or something.

They say it was steroid use.

Some

people said it could have been CTE, you know, because he used to do that, that move where he would come off the top rope and

hit basically

head budget.

So the level of concussions, here's something you don't see anymore in wrestling.

You don't see headshots with a chair.

Right, right.

So do it

on your back.

So was that scripted too?

Yeah, but, you know, they

will tell you that the

outcome is scripted.

The moves are real.

Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah.

And what I mean by the

moves are real is that you get out like there's a way when somebody does a drop tick kick that, you know, you're able to put your arms up.

And when you really watch it closely, you will see that when they do it, there's a way that they do it in such a way as not doing that kind of physical damage.

But every now and then things happen like, I'm trying to remember who dropped Steve Austin.

Because a lot of wrestlers would have the oil on, show their dimensions, and it was sweating, and he slipped, and that's how he messed up his neck.

That's why when I was a kid, for many years, the power driver was illegal.

And what it was was out of safety concerns for the wrestlers, because if they didn't do it right, that means that your head is coming down on the mat, is putting pressure on your spinal cord.

You

know, so a lot of the moves are real.

So do you know how many kids?

Actually got hurt from actually trying to do what they saw.

Yeah, doing it on the bed plan and doing the power driver and broken neck and cracked the vertebrate or That's yeah, they

used to used to do this disclaimer kids.

Don't try this at

home Don't try to

because you know these these these guys and the level of pain That's why you know, you hear a lot of them, you know end up

Becoming addicted because they addicted to painkillers.

Yeah, you know But anyway, so I did get a chance to to watch Both Saturday night and the main event on Sunday night.

Oh man Don't sleep on the WNBA I'll say it again These women were balling this weekend.

They were balling this weekend.

I think it's right now Usually during the summer

Didn't have anything had baseball, you know and then football Well football season started You know people in training camp and So yeah, WNBA man is and I understand it man Caitlyn Clark puts put meat in the seats But there's some sisters out there like the probably the best player on the Indiana fever is not Caitlyn Clark.

It's Kelsey Mitchell

Kelsey Mitchell be balling man.

They those games yesterday were so good the LA Portland game was good I'm trying to think who played the game before them was it because the fever played Saturday.

Hmm.

Yeah, so anyway, that was good and

This man

Who do y'all think I'm in the world series

Dodgers Dodgers I mean and this again, they need a salary cap man

They need a real Oh, it's not Oh,

it's

not either one of them.

No,

no, no, no,

this one is on my program Yeah

That's cheating, man.

Bro, that's cheating, man.

That's like playing a video game and you putting all players that's 99 because you go from 0 to 99 in ratings.

Why do you play?

To win.

But 414.

I'm with you in the league, though, but when you in the

league.

Whatever.

When you in the league and you have.

I don't care you in the wheelchair.

I don't

care if you blind.

Right.

You can't see.

You can't see.

I'm still going to shoot the ball and go buy you.

Oh, come on, man.

Yeah, man.

I need a salary cap,

man.

OK, whatever.

So let me ask you a question

right now.

I'm always asked this question.

So when you on the playground and you picking the team, I'm picking the best.

OK, no salary cap.

It's

a talent cap.

You go stack the team, right?

Yeah, but it's a talent cap, though.

Let's see, because after a while, you'd be like, hey, man, let's.

Split these teams up man to make it fair because we know we ain't everybody out.

No we ain't man.

That's what we know we ain't That

must have been Thursday because Sunday when the park is packed, you just load it

up.

Oh, that's

different.

Yeah, because because when the park is packed You want to stay on so you wouldn't run everybody, right?

But when it's a few people in the salary cap

And yeah, you want a salad?

You don't want a salad cap on Sunday?

No, not on Sunday.

OK.

But I mean, but when the park is kind of, you know, empty those a few guys and you running everybody after a while, it gets boring.

So it's like, man, let's split these tears up, man.

So so there'd be even so you can have some competition.

I'm talking Sunday in the

square

Sunday, man,

then we stay a lot Sunday in the square man.

I mean you sitting up there, man First of all you get up there two hours before anybody start playing.

Yeah, so you can

be right?

Scout and be first be that first 10 to shoot right?

Like

shoot free throws

first 10 and whoever make it whatever they locked in

and I was come down to the last two

It's

always the people that shoot it forever.

Then you'd be like, you know what?

Just pick because you got people that hold up the whole thing.

You had

the one dude.

You know, he ain't got no game because he's show up in tube socks.

Oh, man.

Red black and

green, red band,

red band, and the

wristband.

But

you

know what?

He's going to pick the best tee.

He's going

to be, you know, four and a half.

And he's that player.

That you don't want holding you cuz even when you don't have a ball he holding

Like man cat at the free-throw line.

It's just I mean, you don't know who you don't know basketball, brother

Yeah, I just you know, I don't know all y'all out here and just what we're talking about is Detroit wasn't going anywhere the Tigers so they they traded Scoobo the best pitcher in baseball to the Dodgers I

mean, but the boys trying to get them.

Yeah Everybody was trying to get them

But the dot but what I'm saying is that when you have a team It's

To me, I look at baseball and the Dodgers, like the L.A.

Dodgers.

I like the Kings.

And like everybody else is like peasants.

Yeah.

Thanks for

walking in.

They like the Yankees?

Oh, you little peasants, go off.

Hey, man, that's one thing.

You can still buy the best team.

And then in baseball, then every now and then you get the Marlins, you get the Diamondbacks.

But the team with the payrolls are usually going to do pretty well.

And that's why it don't make sense to even be in the league if you don't have the payroll because you're never going to win.

So you don't think the brewers ain't going to go?

They're going to lose.

They can't beat the Dodgers.

I don't know who can beat the Dodgers.

The Dodgers can't beat the Dodgers.

Something's going to happen.

Well now

that's life.

That's life.

That's a great segue into the whole political scene.

There are things that are outside.

I always try to get DJ to understand this.

There are things that are outside of the control of the candidate that you know you can run the perfect you know campaign and then something

happen.

Right you know and then or something else you you just lucky.

you know uh because uh dj was talking about it on friday he was saying look it was there's a little bit of luck that went into barack obama a little bit of luck things lined up oh yeah things lined up in such a way that had had there been a strong economy when he ran in 2008 it would have been a different story but the economy was teetering uh people have a tendency to the republicans mess it up the democrats have to come and and try to fix it up

And

I think people found favor in him because of his mannerisms and his character.

So when you see people like that, it didn't start that way.

Well, no, I didn't say that it started that way.

Because a lot of people think he was black enough.

Well, yeah.

But after a while, do you see him?

And he gains your trust.

So it's like, OK.

So you look at it, and he's like, he's well mannered.

and you look at his character.

Is that what Biden said about him?

He's clean and articulate.

Yeah.

See, but, but don't that go back to like slavery to like hot age?

Oh, I think, you know, I, oh, he's

a good.

Hey, y'all, the phone lines

over y'all.

Let's be, let's have this conversation this morning because that kind of gets us back to where we are here in Wisconsin.

Um, I was having a conversation yesterday with one of the deacons at the church and

I don't know why people would ask my political opinion.

What do I know?

And we were talking and you know that number out there two weeks out and now less than about a week out from the election where you had 34% of people who were undecided.

on the Democratic side.

Yeah, that ain't good,

man.

Well, yeah.

I mean, it says a whole lot.

Now, normally, this would have been one of those referendums where people would have, I'm trying to think, like, 2018, where you just saw this massive turnout, you know, for an off-year election.

But right now, people are kind of... Now, let me roll back your little bit.

This...

primary is to determine who will represent a particular party in the general election.

That's a different thing than the general election.

I know a lot of people think it's the same thing.

It really isn't.

You're just part of a nominating process.

There are some states where it's done at convention.

It's not done based on people being able to vote.

So in Wisconsin right now,

We're seeing democracy at action.

Now, I'm sitting up here waiting to hear if Mandela gets back in the race.

Okay.

Wait.

It doesn't even get back in the race because somebody said, hey, now.

So let's talk a little bit about that.

Did that break Friday?

It must have broke after we got off the air.

Yeah.

Okay.

That letter, I've seen a copy of it.

I saw it a few months ago.

And so anybody, and look, I'm not in somebody just hooked me up with, okay, here's this letter.

Even Jessica McBride who I've only recently become aware of this very conservative colonists and blogger and influencer, I guess she was going like Really and even the story in the paper with the young lady Look And I know people first of all My understanding no he wasn't married.

I don't think she was married

That's a consensual relationship between two adults.

And for whatever reasons, people go in and I know, because the whole issue around Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky was that, okay, well, first of all, he was married.

But then this whole idea that people in power can use their power then to take advantage of people.

There's the other side of this real talk.

is that there are people who are attracted to power, right?

And so then there's certain things that go along with that attraction to power.

I mean, that so in my mind, it would have been it was, you know, where people go, there's nothing to see here.

It says, you know, it says something.

But the fact that

You know, as he said, his response was, hey, I had a lot of girlfriends.

Well, hey, I ain't mad at you.

Play.

Play and play.

Maybe that would have came out when you read.

You would have gone up in some people's eyes, you know, in terms of how people view you.

Right.

But and look, if the dude who's currently in the White House right now can do what he does and people still vote for him.

You know, I mean it was but I don't know if it was that as much as it was That would come out that also could have been a distraction In terms of because for the Dems Their ultimate goal is to beat Tom Tiffany That's

the

ultimate goal for Democrats, right?

So he's so he's the leading candidate for the Republicans.

Yeah, nobody's really running against on

the Republican side.

Yeah,

so I mean he has some opposition, but

It's not.

I mean, he's the presumed nominee.

So I think people know in the back of their minds.

Now, this is Keith Perez.

If I'm working on your campaign and I'm looking to say there's some things and I don't know if they can get it done.

But if Francesca Hong is the eventual nominee.

There's

gonna have

to be some imaging.

Yeah, they're gonna have to change some images.

I you know now people don't want to hear that

I know everybody, you know, just be real.

Yeah, okay, we'll be real.

So, hey, y'all, the phone line's open 414-444-525-0.

414-444-525-0.

Love to hear what you think.

It's Monday.

It's been a long time since I've been able to actually talk.

We had so many guests last week.

Yeah.

So again, love to hear what you think.

We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back.

All right, welcome back to Community Voice.

The phone lines open, y'all.

414-444-525-0.

Hey, Clark, can you put the comments back up?

Somebody was, okay.

Where we go?

Where were we?

Where were we at?

Click on the chat here, Mr. Parris, picture.

Nothing beat the figure four leg lock.

And

that hurts.

We're bad at 36 states.

That

figure

four.

How many

friends you did

there?

John, listen, we did that at school.

So like the way you put it on people though you good because you get them and turn them around But when they get you locked in with that finger for you tell my somebody screaming that is some pain has anyone of y'all Ever been like that finger for whatever I

Don't even know that was wasn't that at one point that was brick flares go to yep

I know it was Nick Bakwinkos going

to break your leg.

Yeah.

There was a guy named Dr X. Man, I'd love Dr X. Dr X. As a matter of fact, I went to the match where he was our mask.

He was a masked wrestler.

But man, when he put the figure four on, he could sell it.

Man, he could sell it.

He could sell it.

Anyway, phone lines open 414-444-525-0, 414-444-525-0.

Again, Zebra, let me thank you all, those who came down to the WD 11th annual WNOV Resource Fair, we appreciate you.

Let me thank the good folks there, the staff at the Clinton Rose Community Center for their hospitality.

With all of that said,

Put all of that

right

out.

Do you know I got threatened?

You need security security Wow,

these are older people and they're threatening me You know, we were given a cash giveaway every hour I'm getting threats do it now Wait a minute man

I gotta go

like

oh, didn't they get mad at me cuz the number didn't come up look man.

It's random

It was just like so it was fun now the kids the kids were great.

Let me shout out a little Rico and King.

Oh, man, they were

great

Yeah, that's why I was telling

Ricky said I'll be back at two.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's because he was helping with the drawing.

Like, oh, man, the kids

were fun.

The kids were like, they were just.

Debo, Debo was only like somebody granddaddy like.

No, you already won.

Get over there.

By the time we got to the last one, Deebo had disappeared.

It was just

me.

Just me up there.

He got fed up.

And you know, and then I'm like, dude, and then I'm lightheaded from giving blood.

You know, I'm a real trooper.

I gave blood and I got out there and I worked.

But man, I'm getting threatened, boy.

Let me tell you something.

Man, I was like, give me to the car.

You got two, man.

They're just,

they're the older people, man.

No disrespect.

So, so question to Debo and Clark.

We get you, man.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, seriously.

Did I earn my DJ plaque, man?

Oh,

yeah.

Oh, Debo said no.

Debo said no.

No, you didn't.

I was like,

yeah,

it was it was rocking it was rocking bad But

yeah,

let me let me shout out the good folks there and I understand and again for not just the staff of the people we Realized we came in on the Friday.

That's normally, you know a day for you guys.

So

to accommodate us.

People yell at me about food tickets.

I don't know nothing about food tickets.

You know, anybody know, know me, know that I normally don't eat at these events.

So if it comes down to the food, I'm the last person you need to ask because I just, I don't.

It shots out to the vendors to

them.

Oh, yeah, all the vendors that were out.

Yeah, all the partner agencies that was out got a chance to

Have conversations with many of them talking about the great services that they offer to the community And again, let me thank Doug Carol and he say all the folks who staff Debo Clark W Byron the WNOV folks to support staff who really put that together because Logistically it becomes a headache now.

Here's the benefit even though it rained we were indoors so you know that that

Yeah, it was right.

Yeah, because one year we were at the King's Center.

We're outdoors, but we had good weather.

It was... Wow.

So Mr. Musical Director?

Yes, sir.

How was Saturday?

Man, the show was awesome, man.

A lot of my brothers did a great job, man.

And it was their first show in years.

Also, it was their first show without Anthony.

Okay.

So it was...

You know, it was a tribute.

Is there such a thing as music, muscle memory?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Because I can because I can remember songs from the 90s.

Yeah.

But what I'm saying is that you come back and you can kind of

find yourself in the same.

Yeah.

Because like, say, for instance, like songs I haven't heard in years, if if it pop up and you play it in a trigger, something like, oh, I remember and boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

So it I mean, that's just how I'm wired.

So I can remember a song from.

Yeah, they're just like me.

If I hear

a song, I say, oh, I remember that song.

My

brother used to play it

all the

time, but I can't remember that.

I'm talking about the performance part of it.

Like when you get up and you can, I was at a home going for Sister Phyllis Coleman at Metropolitan.

And so after people were kind of...

Quiet was still singing.

Yeah, and I kind of went up there and I started singing with them and they were looking at me I said, yeah, because I miss singing with you all.

I

mean recall it.

We had harmony.

Yeah, we did three parts And and so when you get I say this And I and I appreciate you and I know that some people give you a hard time if Jermaine was a conductor of the Milwaukee Symphony Orchestra

And music ministry music minister at Zion Hill Church We wouldn't have a problem with Jermaine being the conductor of the Milwaukee Symphony Orchestra

that part Yeah, I see exactly where you see what I'm going

but but the fact that you know, thank you music and I had this I had this revelation.

It wasn't a revelation It's more of an affirmation of what I just it's always been a part of me

I said it last week.

I do believe in celebration.

I believe in celebration.

I believe in the groove.

I believe in the jammy jam.

I believe in strong worship.

Yeah.

You know, it's all the same thing.

You know, and so when we're able to come together as a community and celebrate corporately.

Yeah.

That's the beauty of our culture

that part

man.

And so when we sit up and go like, you know, Kelly price, I don't think she did any of her religious songs.

No,

she did all of the

but I wouldn't have had a problem.

She did because the music is music.

Music hits every genre, the jazz, R&B, classical, bluegrass, whatever.

Music is like a filler.

So you can

How can I explain this?

Um, okay prime example Saturday Before David Hollister hit now, you know, David Hollister's R&B The whole R&B set but before he came on the lot of Morris did their gospel stuff from the Lamor album so You had Some people that was like well, I remember them being Jersey Ave and singing baby baby and why why why so some of the people was looking like

okay well you know can you have gospel and R&B on the same stage and yes you can because music is innocent and especially at a community event right

now I don't know if you know I should be doing the thong song right at church are you at a church festival

No, you

can't do that with your

editor.

But I've seen it at a community event.

I think you tried to get a wide range.

It's just, it's all of that.

Look, I'm sure, and I can't speak.

I wish I would have had that interview with Kelly Price.

I'm sure as we lay, and I ain't saying based on experience she had,

But then it could also be amazing grace.

I mean,

I

think these things coexist.

Yeah, and and and with adults And I guess back to this whole thing with Mandela.

No, those are adult consensual relationships, man

Because because they like her version she was the one that had introduced it to the younger generation of

the 90s

year of the 90s and 2000

So she actually put it out for the earlier generation.

But then when Kelly Price came, she was more popular to the young folks.

So she was able to...

I thought that

said the same

thing, too, for a minute, but then you said it right.

You said it right.

Well, I

think it's the song.

And I've always said this.

It's the song, the performer.

Look, Otis Reddy did respect.

He wrote respect.

He recorded respect.

Right.

But it wasn't as big as when Aretha Franklin did it.

Right.

Right.

It's the same song.

She did her, she did her whole thing on it, you know, that, that last part of it.

She, she answered, she changed the speed.

I mean, it was, there was things, but it was still, it's, to me, it's always the song.

It's always the song.

I mean, you got great artists out there, you know, it's like my grandmother, my grandmother could take a piece of leather.

And by the time she got finished with it, it's melting in your mouth.

And

some people can just take things and make it work.

Because, you know, even when Byron Striblin was on from the symphony, he was looking at me like, I'm going like, oh, Allie Willis wrote that song.

Because I'm going like, OK, great example.

My opening song, there's at least 22 versions of that song.

At least

I see it

and that why it's a good piece of

music

and people want a piece of

it.

Yeah, so is that song?

Is that song open at the main?

No, not yet.

I don't think so.

Nope.

There are so many versions of it though.

Well, they're

paying.

Oh, okay, you

know I'm said that the everything the Donny Hathaway estate

Whoever owns the rights to that song is getting paid every time they recorded and every time it's played so You know you you go and people like Whitney Houston wasn't a songwriter,

right?

You know so Whitney Houston did other people's songs, you know Someone like Aretha Franklin.

She was a songwriter,

right?

You know and it so I just think that I just love the celebration man I mean, you know when I've had a chance

to

see them live twice

Parliament Funkadelic That's two two and a half hours just non-stop You know

Yeah, yeah,

but then at the same time and I've never seen them live and I wish I would have known about the pop-up I would went out to see him like Rickie Dylan new G.

Oh, yeah,

you know, I mean that there's certain people out there who

you know, they just Fred Hammond, you know, like they got it.

I know people may or may not because you so deep in your religion that you might not want to hear this applied to gospel music like there's a groove.

Hey, man, Kurt Franklin figured it out.

All of it, man, music is innocent, man.

You can take, you can take any beat and just have the music, right?

It's

It's what you

put to it, because the music by itself is instrumental.

What should music do?

Should music bring joy?

Yeah.

I mean, well, that's why, too.

Or

expression of emotion, because as we lay, is more a song about lamenting reasons, is a song about, wow, went into this relationship.

And Phil Bailey tells the story he thought.

that it was something really meaningful when he had relations with the woman.

And she's just getting with him because he was filled daily with earth, wind and fire.

Yeah.

So then it was like, oh, now the fact that you set up a matter, I don't know if you set up and thought that that was going to be love forever.

You know, come on, man, you know, what, what, what, you know, that is what

that is.

Yeah, but it's a moment.

Got a comment?

All right, Carla, welcome to the program.

Yeah, you

were supposed to have appointments?

Yeah.

You weren't the brother that came in without the appointment when I was there, were you?

No, no, they

were they were trying because there weren't some people had appointments though, but by the end

They had appointment slots available.

People could go in afterwards because we made an announcement.

It must have been about 130 that people go in if they still wanted to give blood who didn't have an appointment.

But I appreciate you coming out being willing to do it.

But at that first group, there were people there with actual appointments because I had

one.

I was the first one and they told me we had a way.

You can't donate no blood right now.

I don't

have it, man.

This is sweet blood I'm trying to do y'all.

Yeah, did you see me up in there?

There was some other people up in there too, bro.

Well, nobody up in there.

Well, I'm looking

for my blood.

No, you pulled up what I pulled up.

When I went up in there to donate the blood, over there to the blood thing.

Right.

The girl was up there, told me that.

Right.

So I said, I'll come out to you down to D-Bosies.

We don't have nobody here now.

They don't want to take my blood.

Well, you can always go down to there and go down to Thrive on King.

They'll take him without an appointment.

Down on King Drive and Garfield?

Yeah.

But I appreciate

that.

I know they appreciate

it.

I'll mention another question.

One more time.

Let me get off.

If they hear anything about Ken, my friend Ken, that used to come down there all the time.

I hear that he passed away.

And I want to know for sure that he really passed away.

Ken, he used to come out here to the center all the time.

He was on the show out there one time.

OK.

Well, I wouldn't know.

I don't even know if they want me to come back because the threats I was getting.

Yeah, I'm such a nice guy.

Yeah, I know that.

I know that.

I do remember him because he pulled up on that bike when I was walking

in.

Yeah,

I'm a big baby.

You know what she did, right?

She just covered up when she put the needle in.

Yeah,

yeah

blood pressure was already

high.

Well, I mean for me I just watch y'all man and I Amen, I'm off to the side like great job Keith For giving blood because people need it man Great job because if it wasn't for you, they wouldn't have what they got so Congratulations.

I was watching this this

this piece on the mob

And man, it actually was better than I thought it was going to be.

And I think it was when John Gotti had killed Castellano.

I don't know anybody watching the Westies.

That is serious.

The Westies.

Oh man, that is such a good series.

Talking about, there was a gang.

They call it Hell's Kitchen.

It's Midtown, New York, the West Side.

and these Irish gangs or this Irish gang.

It is really good, man.

I mean, it is things.

It was like, but it's good.

But anyway, the guy, he was the FBI agent who was on scene when they took him, took I think Paul Castellano, who got killed outside the steakhouse to the hospital.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

It was Joey Gallo.

Joey Gallo.

He was the guy who did this whole Italian American like the NAACP for Italians.

He ended up getting killed at a rally shot.

He's bleeding.

He didn't die right away.

He's at the hospital.

One of the cops who was doing surveillance with him had, they said the doctor came out and said, we need blood.

And I guess this guy has that universal blood that anybody could get.

So he said nothing knowing this he said I was torn and I don't know if he ever decided that he gave blood But here I am giving blood to a criminal, right?

That was kind of crazy.

That was kind of crazy So anyway, you're listening to we got break.

Yeah

You're listening to Community Voiced.

Phone lines open, y'all.

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Gonna take a quick break.

We'll be right back.

With your host, Keith Parris.

All right, well, yeah.

What?

Yeah, my little putty-tane

moment.

Oh,

yeah.

Let's see.

We said, look away if you have to.

been there done that there's people really have a needle phobia.

That's real.

No, seriously, because when I got the shots in my knees, the first thing he told me, he said, don't look because if you look, it's going to it's going to send that signal from your brain to your body.

And so like the first one, I didn't feel because I was looking away and I didn't know when it happened.

But the second one happened to turn and look and soon as I

Saw it.

I felt the pain and I'm like this is crazy because I just got it in my left knee

man.

I I could tell you Wanted I always learn this second time I've had to go through physical therapy and physical therapists are so good telling you about your body and how your body works, right and And so there were things in there one of the things that had caused the fall was

My brain remember when I stepped in had slipped before

yeah

Now I'm trying to adjust but I don't have a balance to do it.

Yeah,

bam because you walk into avoid pain,

right?

You know like I didn't realize that my pelvis was out of place until I went to the chiropractor and But then talking about I was in worse pain

because now I'm using muscles way I have not used it before.

I think about when at the beginning, when we'd have like trials at the beginning training camp for basketball, one of the common elements people got were shin splits, right?

Those those those ligaments that run along your bone there, but you haven't been using them that way.

And so that's where you get them from, you know, like, oh man, I'm using these muscles

So you got the muscles, you got tendons, you got all those things going on.

And we were talking, I don't know if we were talking about it last week, but how it used to be ACL was a career ender, like, oh, and Achilles.

But now based on medical science and the advancement in science, they're able to rebuild where people are actually stronger than they were before.

And so,

because we talked about I think the name that came up was Gail Sears and how he had just two career-ending knee surgeries.

But

who,

oh man, my guy, Paul.

George?

Oh, Paul George.

Remember when he,

man, he had that leg at

the Olympic

festival?

He almost died, didn't he?

Yeah, he was in bad shape.

The fact that he was able to come back and

play.

The guy that played for Boston.

A white guy.

There was a shooter.

What was his name?

He came from Charlotte.

He was a shooter.

And he got all of that money.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He came from Utah.

Yeah.

And he got hurt against the box.

Yeah.

Yeah, man.

I mean, you could do some.

Like I said, when I had fallen away, my leg had twisted.

I thought, oh, man, that's a ligament.

at least not hopefully if it's cartilage or ligament.

But I guess because it was not a violent fall, I was able to kind of brace myself, but I was looking like a pretzel man.

I was twisted.

And then fell and hurt the other knee.

It was like, oh, but it's pain.

So now, not only am I dealing with pain in my back, I'm dealing with pain in my knees.

So walk in is like, uh, how do I avoid the pain in my knees?

How do I avoid the pain in my back?

So I got a question for you.

Is it that it's pain in your body or is it that your brain is telling your body to feel something?

No, it's pain.

It's the nerve endings.

That's why when the guy was telling me how you apply ice and heat, like what it does is it brings down the swelling because a lot of times it's just swelling,

right?

I get it.

Well, the only reason why I asked that is because when I just said about the needle,

right?

Looked away.

I didn't feel anything.

He said, well, that boy

good.

He's thinking about

it.

Needle.

No, but when I looked away, I didn't feel it.

But as soon as I saw it, my brain told my body was going to hurt.

So so.

But my thing is from the first injection, I didn't feel it because I didn't see it.

Right.

So.

was it that the pain was still there and my brain didn't register it?

Or did he give you a local?

Huh?

Did he give you a local?

No, no, no.

He just rubbed some type of... That's a local.

Tell the numbing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But he did it on the

other knee, too.

Yeah, but you can still... Like, when I got the two shots for a moment, I felt that needle.

It felt like yeah and some pain because I did a audible Oh, you know, it was like oh man And it was cuz the needles in there and even though they've given me something to

sedate make our Korean some more.

Okay

Take you back to the 60s and 50s when you had to go to the dentist And they used to give you that shot and you

But they won't put your gun?

Yes.

Oh, when they wore our hoes.

I will not see that needle, man.

I passed out.

No, I doubt

it.

I got a wisdom tooth.

I passed.

Yes.

That's what I'm talking

about.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And

they, you know, overcame that.

That's what I'm talking about.

But this particular wisdom tooth, a set of coming up like this, it was coming like this.

Impacted.

Yeah.

So they had to cut around the gun and go in

deep.

So what he did was he numbed it and he was like, well, you're not going to feel the pain.

You're going to feel the pressure.

So you can feel the whole.

Yeah.

Out of that.

Then when he saw that the smoke coming out.

But I actually felt like when he got the tooth halfway up and then they cut it.

Because it's on the

nerve.

It's on the nerve.

Yeah.

But doc, when I tell you he was in there.

You know, trying to get it loose for so long.

The Nova can wore off.

Yep.

So my mouth, he's pulling my mouth like this.

And I had grabbed the doctors hand like this.

And he said, if you grabbed me, I'm going to stop pulling in this too.

I said, this is exactly what I said.

If you stop pulling this too.

Yeah, I ain't going to say that.

But I told him I was going to whoop a fit on you.

Better he got it done though.

Thank you black Jesus.

He got it.

Amen.

If you leave me in this pain, you go and I'm gonna tell his office.

Oh, it would happen deal with it.

He removed the

tube.

He had to numb it a couple of times because sometimes it

really

it might have to go so he had he said you can eat you know and and I hate when they numb that because

It's like, if you don't feel it, don't feel it at all.

He said, so you can eat.

So, man, I go to my little go-to meal.

This happened, man, almost 30 years ago.

I had a lung abscess that burst.

So I had all this infection in my body, right?

Oh, wow.

And so Rhonda was going, we'd only been married about, ooh, April, September, about five months.

Rhonda had to go to Boston.

And so two of her coworkers to come and take a look at Keith.

And I couldn't half eat, man, because I eat, I cough.

It was awful.

I lost like 20-something pounds.

And so they brought me, when I was feeling better, they brought me a club from Cousins.

It was good.

I mean, it was so good.

So when I went in after this whole dentist thing, what's my go-to after I had done some kind of medical thing, right?

So I go to Cousins, give me, so man, I got club.

The club was good.

I could only chew on one side of the ground.

And they said, now you're going to take an antibiotic and you're going to take a pain pill.

But the antibiotic and pain pills look just alike.

So I took two antibiotics.

Man, that anesthesia wore off.

It felt like somebody was driving a

spike.

Oh, man.

Rhonda's running.

The health clinic is out on Fond du Lac and Red Cross Street from Greater Newburgh.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Milwaukee Health.

Well, that

used to be

family health care.

And Rhonda was the clinic manager there.

Oh.

So I call her.

I say, I'm in pain.

What should I do?

Can you talk to one of the doctors to see?

I think I took two.

Can I?

She said, OK.

10 minutes, 20 minutes.

Your mouth dropped.

30 minutes, I ain't heard nothing.

So now I'm calling back.

Like I'm in pain here.

Oh, I

forgot.

I

don't think she

knew.

Man,

pain is, but you know, pain is also a teacher.

Yes

pain is also you learn you learn a whole lot from your pain and you know one and your brain is trying to trying to say here's how you avoid the pain

right

you know um swelling will kind of immobilize you that means you shouldn't walk on it right if you notice dogs when they've got a hurt leg they ain't trying to walk

on the

leg.

Human beings get out there trying to walk on the leg.

That's the only way man that would heal.

is if you don't walk on it.

Oh, you're inactive.

Yeah.

And it kind of gets us back

to when you see people like these pro athletes and what they're able to do, they have the best physical training.

Now, look, the PTs that I went to, these folks are, they're off the chain.

But when you look at, and it's almost like an animal, because human beings are animals, where you look at all the things they can do, they can do infrared.

They can do massage therapy.

They use acupuncture, you know, like dry needleings, all these things to get these athletes back in shape.

I was looking at the Fija Collier yesterday.

That girl can play.

Oh, my God, that woman is so good.

Oh, man.

And she was talking about, because she's coming from, she had ankle surgery on both ankles.

And she was saying how it's one thing when you run in and doing your whole conditioning, it's another thing when you're in the game.

because, you know, when you're doing conditioning, it's like, let's say you run in sprints, boom, boom, boom, boom, run back, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

Basketball is start, stop, you know, like you run in one direction.

I used to do a drill, I was bringing back a memory where the guys would be running sprints, you blow the whistle, you got to turn and run the other way, right?

Because it's getting you used to doing the game, you know, that's how the game works.

Like you got to turn over, you got to turn to get back.

And all you ever heard me say is get back.

Get back.

You need to get back on defense, right?

But doing those drills, so all that.

So when you actually in the game, it's different.

And you also got, you know, the anxiety of now trying to get out here and perform.

I was playing the game one time and it was a big game for these kids.

And I had to call the time out like a minute and a half into the game because kids were hyperventilating.

They were just that.

Hiked

up, wow,

you know, to play.

But I understand how our body works.

I think the example I gave somebody was, when you get a new car, oh man, you don't have to do a lot of maintenance on it.

But as that car gets older, you know, there's things that you have to do.

And that's the same thing with our bodies, that how we maintain our bodies.

The way I ate at 20, I can't eat at this age.

You know, I mean it was because at 21 I'm burning every calorie And it probably wasn't real healthy then because you look at athletes now the one thing they will tell you is Two things you got the exercise piece of but there's two other things diet and rest You know for your body just to be able to Be able to recover so it's when you look at the body and and how we maintain the body I was talking to Mandela

And you know, he's a runner but he said the same thing.

He said your core got to be strong That's that area your domino and all of that.

So a lot of the PT exercises I do now has everything to do with building up my core Providing good support for my back learning how to to walk right You know Like I said, man, that's what I said to the PT.

I said, you know

I could just get my Denzel Washington walk back.

I'm good.

But now she said, no, you want to do Barack Obama?

I want to do Barack Obama coming down the stairs.

Nobody comes down the stairs like Barack Obama.

Other than my former roommate at Mount St.

Mary's, Mr. Eric D. MacDair, Eric always came down the stairs sideways.

He just had this coolest way of coming downstairs, come downstairs.

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I've been listening for a minute and I didn't know that you had a situation that took place.

So I hope you are okay.

Oh man, a lot better.

Yes, I'm

experienced.

So

as a

matter of fact, right, I'm going to take my walker out to a new walker.

You were on a walker?

Man, I was on a walker.

Yeah, I'm gonna take the walker out the new birth.

What?

You know why I was on the walker though?

Because originally I was going to do it.

I was doing a cane.

I did the walker so I would walk properly.

You know, like I'm balanced in my walking.

That's what the walker does.

Provides that support.

Where the cane, I could go either way.

So I was walking wrong.

So I'm still putting pressure on the area that's injured.

So what the walker just kept me upright.

So you're on a cane now?

No, no.

No

Walker.

No, okay.

Oh, right.

Okay.

You got you are in full possession of your faculties

Yeah, and I'm getting stronger.

So when I saw the orthopedic I he asked me how I was I said about 85% I'm never going to be totally totally pain-free

Let them get you on drugs

No,

I think it's poison

Hopefully the only drug I have to take is that steroid shot that I took.

In tumor.

How many of that do you think?

Yeah, that too.

Because of the

inflammation

of the nerves.

Oh, man, I'm on Tylenol.

Every morning I'm up taking Tylenol.

And I have not

had to take a lot

of

pain pills because I don't like taking pain pills.

Don't do it.

Right.

And then if it gets real bad, I'll take some of the lead.

But it really hasn't, you know, I'm just building up strength.

I'm walking more.

So, you know,

so.

Can you try ginger tea with turmeric, black pepper, honey, black and green tea?

OK.

This is also what I wanted to say to you all.

You were talking about training.

When I ran track 100,000 years ago, we trained with the basketball players.

And the reason for that is because at a moment's notice, the basketball players have to pivot.

So they have strong ankles.

And, you know, they obviously said they're going to break your ankles.

But the people who were on track, like, especially the sprinters, the sprinters trained with the basketball players to teach strength for endurance and the courage.

If you run like four by one or four or the 200.

Any other relays your ankles have to be strong because usually the first person in the curves Is the one that's gonna be the winner and usually the fastest people are in the first Four lanes when it comes to sprinting so all in all, I hope you May Allah Keep you strong get you stronger look for homeopathic thing.

I worked in produced pharmaceuticals and

Some people are probably going to get a say about what I'm about to say.

But being exposed, the way that some pharmaceuticals are produced, like radio, pharma in particular, it's a dangerous process.

And the product that is produced, it has been radiated.

You understand what I'm saying,

right?

So when it comes to synthesis and making things, synthesis and sin, look at that, synthetic materials are not good for organic material.

You get what I'm saying?

Yeah.

Synthetic things will arrest the situation and they could cause the manifestation of something.

which could lead to something that's detrimental to a organic material.

Have you, uh, have you ever

had,

did steroids have steroid shot or?

No, sir.

I follow the teachings of the most honorable lives of Mohammed as best as I can.

I'm gonna say this because my baby called me the product of concern.

I hope that doesn't mean I'm evil or anything like that.

Because a lot of them call me to produce and manifest to contribute to the continuation of evil things.

I understand

why.

And really what

I'm asking you, Christopher, is I think that there has to be a balance.

There are some times where

Well, I don't want to use to do it use the word radical.

You might have to do something that's outside

right

outside of your

norm

And and and so I think there just has to be I don't like taking prescription drugs even though I am on blood pressure medication and I'm on a statin You know for cholesterol,

but that's working to the farm the pharmacologist the pharmacy person

He knows more about the chemical composition of anything that a doctor would prescribe for you.

So the pharmacist is the best person when it comes to the molecular construction of any synthesized material, when it comes to medicine, that's the best person to speak with outside of the doctor because the doctor is going to look at your symptoms and they'll

understanding from that perspective but the scientific understanding of what the synthesized material that you might be prescribed the best understanding of that is the pharmacist because he has the broadest knowledge about how he will interact with organic matter.

You know chemotherapy or radiation therapy you know I mean where you know you have something that could be

where that is destructive to organisms, particularly human beings.

But at the same time, done correctly, it becomes a benefit.

And that's always been the thing with science and medical science is how do you balance the medical good because there is no anything that people take where there's not going to be some type of, what do you call that?

No, I'm stuck for words this one What is it when you have some you have a reaction to it side effects there you go I mean because what the body is

doing

right, but then it could be temporary and Then in the long run then it's able to go in and stabilize Whatever it is or rest whatever it is that you're dealing

with

when it comes to chemicals and chemotherapy and radiation, and one is heavier than the other.

Radiation is absolutely

radical.

If you have radiation stronger, you're in a real acute state by that

time.

Yeah, but both of those things are, ultimately, both of those approaches are detrimental to organic matter, and you can do this yourself with bleach and poured on a

leaf.

Oh yeah, oh yeah.

And

it impacts other parts.

It can impact your organs.

You know, the question people ask is, is this, is the side effects, does the benefit,

no,

no, no, no, no, no.

Was

the benefit outweigh some of the negative reaction or responses that you have?

And I think we balance that, you know, every day.

Like I could, I could take a certain drug.

and it's gonna cause me, it's a diuretic, right?

So I'm constantly urinating.

Well, that opens up the door for dehydration, right?

So then I have to make sure that I'm fully hydrated.

So it's always a balance, and I agree

with you,

it's natural, natural is better,

right?

Everything, can I say this, and then I will go.

Most of the things we come to, and here is,

I mean, I know they get mad.

I brought out the chemistry because I know this.

When it comes to the pharmaceutical sciences, and that's why I'm speaking higher with regard to the pharmacists because they understand the chemistry that is involved more so than the doctor.

And when you've been involved in the production of these things and you've been actually exposed, when it comes to radiated things,

They have to do with doses and exposure when it comes to medicine that has been produced, whether it has been produced, when it all comes to maturity, has been synthesized.

The theory of it all is that because pharmacology is so awesome, or pharmaceuticals, I should say, not pharmacology.

Pharmaceuticals or pharmaceutical industry is so awesome and powerful.

The good things that are natural which will actually help you more a lot better than something that has been synthesized That's not promoted as much as it was in the past as it is now It's easier for you to go pop appeal than it is for you to make tea In a

way when the Chris Rock who said that the money is not in the cure the money is in the treatment

In the treatment, right?

So they're not trying to cure you.

They are resting your symptoms for a moment, but yet you're being strung along and you're being, you actually are being addicted to something.

And when it comes to that blood pressure pill, you should definitely use a lot, a lot of, use a lot of turmeric.

You can use turmeric as much as you want and as a red pepper or black pepper.

And try that because it has to do with your nose and they're inflamed and that's why you're feeling pain.

ginger tea and things like that.

Look for natural ways to keep your body on the inside, start on that physiology, biochemistry.

I study clinical laboratory sciences with an emphasis on biomedical experiences and UW-Milwaukee.

I study chemistry in Milwaukee area, Technic College.

So anyway, I'm not trying to brag about it, but when it comes to organic matter,

which is carbon-based, which we are.

That's why we can turn this black when it dies.

Turn back to carbon.

And carbon is where diamonds are the basis with pressure.

Be careful of things that people who have the ability to prescribe you, as opposed to someone who knows the actual effect of it on an organic based.

material being.

Does that make sense?

Yes, sir.

Yes, sir.

Thank you.

I appreciate you.

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And let me, and I didn't realize that this happened this weekend, but let me shout out the Milwaukee Community Journal.

They celebrated 50 years, and Black Press is alive and well in the city of Milwaukee.

And so shout out to them.

I remember when they started.

So, we need to do that.

We need the black press.

Black press is so important because it gives a perspective that legacy media doesn't always do.

So, we appreciate you in the work, Ms.

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We thank you.

We thank you.

We thank you.

Again, y'all, the phone line's open.

414-444-5250.

Also, let me, and I don't know if he's listening,

But let me think, Pastor Marcus Allen, I think his insight in terms of the Corey Ruiz case in Madison was.

Right, you know, on point gave us a different understanding of why that particular shooting in terms of community reaction might look a little bit differently than it did in other communities.

And so I know he does a good work there at the Mount Zion Church there in Madison, but let me that was just good.

I mean, it was

It wasn't hyperbole.

I mean, it was to the point, stuck with the facts.

Hey, here's the situation.

Here's how it's, here's how it's going to resolve itself.

And, you know, right when we think or want to believe or hope that things have changed, we realize that the more things change, the more they stay the same.

So we know just like when we've had our incidents here,

how we support so really as much as we can.

Let's support the community of Madison, see if they can do the right thing and that justice will be done.

It's unfortunate.

And when people are running around here, especially Negroes, who are critical of the critical race theory, you know, this is another example.

of how an adjusted system is not just what people get in the court system.

It's their interaction with law enforcement and how there is implicit bias there.

And people don't always recognize nor appreciate nor respect our humanity.

And that's why you could have a situation where there is a person who's not black

pose more of a threat and they were able to walk away as opposed to black folks who didn't pose that great of a threat or no threat at all and they lost their lives, you know, that is still part of America's DNA and We have to continue continue to continue to work towards justice when it comes to that, you know, you you want to Hear that America should be colorblind

I think that genie's out the bottle.

I don't I don't think we're ever gonna be colorblind America should be fair America should be equitable America should be just and then we need to take in consideration that there are physical differences that people have we might have physical differences in terms of appearance but the humanity is still the same we have shared humanity and I think that that's one of the

residual effects of enslavement that black people would never consider fully human.

And I think that is after 400 years in this country, here in North America, 400 years in North America, 250 years of this country, that is just hard, difficult for people.

First of all, people even realize that there's a problem because there are a lot of European Americans who don't believe that there's a problem.

because, again, they're perch of privilege.

And then what segregation does is you don't get a chance to then experience what another human being who looks different than you might be experiencing because you're so segregated.

And then people then are going to be able to fall on stereotypes and myths and all these other things.

And then let me say this to...

descendants of enslaved Africans and descendants of Africans who are here in North America.

We need to do, we need to appreciate our humanity.

I don't know if we always do a good job of even appreciating our humanity because I don't know how you can appreciate someone else's humanity if you don't appreciate yours.

And so all those things where we have to reject

internalized racism.

We have to reject the personification of white supremacy, where the reaction is a certain level of, and I used the term black inferiority.

A lot of it's in our mind.

Well, racism's real, that ain't in our minds.

What

I'm saying is how we react and respond to it is how we view ourselves.

So I tried to catch people when they call in and they just, you know, tearing black folks down.

And I'm going like, dude, first of all, that ain't a benefit.

And, you know, people get on me, man.

I'll talk to DJ and our production meeting on Thursday.

We have to do Hater Nation because the haters, man, which I am one, the haters out there, man, where you just, you know,

I was watching something just looking at something on Facebook and The first thing that came out this person's mouth was how much the person was making Man that that that is the most basic level of hate That you know you you get mad cuz somebody's making money You don't think they should deserve of course if you in that position you gonna take whatever they give you right?

I mean it's things like that that kind of trips me out

um in terms of how we we sit there jealousy and envy you know all of these things um you know and and a lot of us will walk around and we were taught our biblical scholarship it's not so much if you know scripture it's if you live scripture again it's not your knowledge of scripture

how you live scripture and that that's that's the disconnect that's the disconnect because you know if you're a follower of Jesus and I'm gonna go in and this is being anecdotal where you know I hear more and more we talk about eternal life and we're talking about salvation and we go on and on and on but any studying of Jesus

you will find that the thing that Jesus focused on is how human beings should comport themselves with other human beings.

They have compassion, right?

To feed people who are hungry, to clothe those who are naked.

That's human interaction.

And I remember growing up hearing this and you know, people used to say, your good deeds won't get you in.

Make logical sense your good deeds won't get you in Why not When Jesus taught us to do good deeds why if we're following Jesus and following what Jesus taught us and instructed us to do Then why then wouldn't it get us in?

Well, you know

I mean, that's really a good question because you really don't know unless you go ask somebody that's on the other side.

Okay.

But I just think that if you live how Jesus lived, then you should be all right.

And when I say that, I mean, like as far as how he treated people.

the compassion he had for people.

So when he saw a need, he met the need.

So I think if you, if you can live your life under that umbrella.

You

know, and

I understand, um, and that's, that's, that's, that's, that's insightful because a lot of growing up is.

I'm learning some of the things that we've learned when we were young.

And it might have made sense then, or maybe it did make sense, is just what people taught.

But when, I don't know, if the motivation, and maybe this is unfair, but if the motivation is that I do good so I can get to heaven, okay, that's good.

But then Paul talks about how people was it Paul to James who talked about people being lovers of good

In other

words that if you love doing good,

right?

You're gonna do

good.

You're gonna do good, you know, and and what's more important Where you know, we're talking about and look for black folks this was Part of our theology

was we had to do deferred gratification.

And what do I mean by that?

We basically had to die in order to get our reward.

And I think it's permeated some of our theology in terms of how we look at things.

But there was a piece there where the slave master, who was also a practicing Christian, was able to reap reward and be fully human here.

Then what about the enslaved African why couldn't he or she and and and that so I think it's always about humanity is created religions created for for humanity But I think it's how we deal with each other.

I think that that becomes That I mean, you know, we we we can and I don't know if people think because you do that little incantation

That you know that you know, yes, I believe I'm a sinner.

Yes, I believe Jesus died for my sins, you know and and you go on Okay, the acknowledgement of that and that is more symbolic than anything ain't no power in it by the way The question is if I'm a follower if I'm a disciple that means that then I'm a practitioner of what I've been taught as a disciple if you're taking

Take one do is that like you're learning that but then you apply those life principles to your life And I don't know if we if if if it's that I think it's it's a whole lot of And again, I think it's well mean I don't think is is is malicious I Wasn't

When I when I say that as you get older there should be questions Some things are not apparent and or immediately apparent so there should be questions We talked about doubt Skepticism there should be a level skepticism.

I don't know if and and and then how much or even what I believe can be butchers by facts now, that's the other thing about religion religion is not

Based on fact religion is based on belief.

How do I have a balance between what I know and what I believe?

You know, I mean that I can believe something but that don't make just because I believe it.

That's true and You know, I have people because people argue with me.

I'll say one plus one is two But here comes the Negro

well

Well, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I was going to say, I was going to say, if if there's proof, if there's proof of it, you know, that one plus one is to there's really no pushback.

Oh, yeah, there's still pushback.

Really?

Yeah, it was something that DJ said, DJ Hines, OK, where, you know, he was saying, in effect, we get people permission to question.

They don't need your permission.

They are already questioning it.

You get up, they are, I mean, that's what human beings as adults, adults say no before they say yes.

Right?

We say no before we say yes.

So yeah, they're out there and then here's the other piece of it.

Now just me being the free thinker that I am and I really believe in free thinking is that you should be questioning when somebody gets up before you.

And you might want to ask a question.

Now here, there's a difference in asking a question and dismissing it, you know, just dismissing it.

I ain't going to even think about it.

I believe what I believe.

I believe what I believe.

And notice I'm not using saying I know what I know.

I believe what I believe.

The problem with belief is that belief is fluid.

Sometimes belief is based in fact.

Sometimes belief is just based in belief.

And I have people arguing with me about facts.

Yes, we can have a better understanding of facts.

But the last time I checked, the last time I checked, if I run into that glass, it's gonna do some physical damage, okay?

Maybe in your mind, there's an exception, like you was talking about, if I think about a thing.

But I think that we have put so much on belief.

But then and here's the contradiction of living we also put an enormous amount of premium on materialism Right Let's if you look at in the Old Testament for you Christians us Christians in the Old Testament a blessing was materially what you had So if you were materially well off you were blessed you were righteous

And that's how we gauged it.

Look at things differently now to understand that I could be the most materially blessed person in the world with poor health.

How many of us, if I'm looking at the possibility of death and having wealth, what becomes more important to me?

Be poor and alive, right?

So I'm just saying that sometimes it's okay.

Not that you need my permission.

It's okay to think.

It's okay to question.

But look for the answer.

That's the second part of that.

A lot of times, you know, when I tell people to look it up, they're not going to look it up because they don't want to stop believing what they already believe.

And the facts are going to push up against what I believe.

That's hard.

There's some things that I really believe.

And then only upon further review what flag is that the reflect?

Oh That was wrong Okay, that was wrong and so Yeah, I think that when you that's the thing I like about good dialogue when we have Someone just asked a question our vision is real

Hmm

Big more Pacific

When

you say visions, you know, I I still believe No, I believe take that word out There are still prophets today There's still prophets there's always been prophets yeah and and Because what prophets certainly if you look at the Old Testament and prophets

They spoke to justice and against injustice that was their primary role and Then you have hear your options if you do this you can avoid this Malcolm X was a prophet Martin Luther King was a prophet.

I believe Jeremiah Wright is a prophet You know there are people out there who have insight

and they're calling society to justice and righteousness.

I was listening to someone, and it's funny how we equate as sin.

And they were going on about smoking, drinking, doing drugs, you know, the Vic 3.

Oh, did I say sex?

Vic 4.

You know, sin.

That's that.

Now, this is Keith.

Upon further review, a lot of it is just some real bad physical habits that's going to have impact on you materially.

Okay?

So sometimes it's how you use what you use.

And then the other thing is, again, I think some of the greatest sin is how human beings deal with each other.

And it seems to me that I need to be better at how I treat Clark and how I treat Jermaine, right?

I think that that's going to be my ultimate judgment.

We'll see.

Carla, welcome to the program.

Good morning.

Hey, how you doing?

How you doing?

I'm doing good, man.

OK, I have a question I want to ask you.

Yes, sir.

Do you think there's a connection between your maturity and your temper?

You say that again.

Do you think there's a connection between your maturity and your temper?

Yes.

Okay.

How?

As I become more mature, I should have a better handle on how I control my temper.

Okay, okay.

That's because

I've got nothing in your motion.

The strongest motion that you have is anger and love.

The nervous little more temperate than your anger.

There's another one out there too, fear.

Fear, okay, yeah.

Yeah, I mean, you know, but fear is for survival.

You know what I mean?

I mean, fight or flight is for our survival.

Fear is for our survival.

We talk about what we call love, but a lot of times what we call love certainly, you know, between

to human beings I mean is romantic love well that's also physical desire that physical desire is there for so for us to procreate that's the biological reason for it right but yeah fear our anger our ability how do we handle tough situations but as I mature one I should be mindful of that behavior and to whatever I can then do to modify

the behavior.

Some people with quick tempers, maybe their maturity is they don't get as angry as quickly.

But I think

it's a

process, especially if that's been your modus operandi for many years.

You know, like you've been able to go in and some people, man, what is it?

James tells us to help Lord help right on my tongue.

You know,

because we can get the talking crazy.

Yeah, I was listening to some brothers talking about

Playing cards and I'm surprised that no more they're not more homicides around spade games You be here some folks going like I'd be wanting to go for my gap

like

Oh man that's good right and I heard a guy say that that that fear is a is a sin I'm not gonna go that far he said because the opposite of fear is faith right

so

but I will say that fear has a biological

reason there that that fear helps us you know we were talking earlier about the brain right and how the brain will have a memory about you have been a painful episode and then the brain is telling you need to avoid that because that caused pain right all right man I gotta wrap it up appreciate you let me call the callers all two of you

Thank you.

You ain't right off.

Thank you, sir.

Debo, thank you.

Young Carvey, good seeing

you.

Good seeing Carvey,

boy.

Debo, thank you, everybody.

Hey, y'all, the good Lord Will and Creek.

Don't rise.

Hope to talk to everybody tomorrow and as always, go from this place in peace.