Welcome to Camille D. Voice. I'm your host Keith Perry. So I want to thank everybody for joining us this morning. Good morning, Clark. Clark at Head Sets, man. When we get our headphones. You got headphones over there. That's noon. A lot changes while you're under house arrest. Yeah. Teresa Beeman said, keep welcome back. And she talked about my stay in rehab.
Good morning apostles. Bishop chairman of the board, superintendent. You know why you was gone from the church to church. Well, here's I didn't miss a program. Well, you know, cause you, cause you watched.
from home. It ain't the same. Been in the house of the Lord, ain't man, and why he was gone. I literally had to tell TC. TC said, y'all need to get something after your show, Michelle. I said, TC, what are you talking about? Because it's just quietly, he is dead. I said, but they're doing a show TC. He's doing it from home. Right. On the screen. She is, you not coming through this door was just bothering TC. Yeah, man. It was just
It was just different. But having your back, brother, I tell you, the church is just, you know, we...
We are excited to have Pastor back in the building, amen. Somebody said Keith and Shug was locked up. So how was the conversation? What did he say? Since he like music so much. That dude bro just cried and cried. Why you be that big and you said a big cry in the jail? Now he was a gangster on the street. But you up in the spot, he just cried. They just talking about man on Shug, man. He was just a big punk. He was just big.
So otherwise welcome home from your stint. I'm glad that you're back. Yeah. Yeah. Stay out of prison. I might have. You had that monitor out. I'm trying that. The brother called in. The brother called in and he said, uh, yeah, man, you, Michelle had my coffee hot and I was not ready to go. I said, no, let Michelle get you a jail. Okay. We putting up t-shirts here because, you know,
She got you. I had somebody boy. This woman would always have us ready to go to revolution at work. I'm going like, I got a mortgage. We just talk about this money matter where you got a mortgage, you know, you, you can say that's why during the 1964, 63, right? The Birmingham protests. And then the reason why they put kids on the streets was adults could lose their job. I mean, you know, I mean, so the kids,
Yeah. Yeah. And it was effective. Yeah. Because again, they could go to jail because they're not going to miss work. Right. They didn't. They weren't. They didn't have a mortgage. They didn't have to worry about car payment. They're, you know, employers who could retaliate against them.
Most of them lived at home. So yeah, the from that aspect. Yeah. So economically, it made more sense for young people to be out on the front line because they had less financially to lose. And so we stay in the cut. We can still finance the move. I got you. Right. And I think that that's always. And when you're younger, you built for jail a little bit better. Oh, we have the good time. We're singing at this age, man. I mean, like Hannah Dugan, I know they would send her to like
the female club fed, but if she went, got any time? But still, man, that, that idea of you losing. Yeah, man. I mean, it is like even two years, man. That's just, it's crazy. I have to go out to RCR, CRC and that's the old house of correction. Yeah. And just when you hear those doors closing, man, no, people telling you when to get up. When I was an MSDF, um, just.
the whole experience of being in that spot, 23-1, because your hour is actually broken up in 15-minute increments. So after your last 15 minutes, I mean, it could be two o'clock in the afternoon, it could be three o'clock, four o'clock in the afternoon. After your 15 is up, you and your room for the rest of the night. See, that's why we got so many guys signing up for the fatherhood program, because they get out.
You know, they able to get out of there. But and today, you know, it's hot. Yeah. No air conditioning. Exactly. Because you're inside of a building. So it's a it's a building inside of a building inside of a building. If you really, really, really want to know what it's like for those that's out there listening in radio land, go in your bathroom, close the door and stand there and don't leave. That's crazy. What in terms of prison? Yeah. Yeah. Well,
We visited prisons. When Lena was the chair of the judiciary committee in the Senate, she made it her business that we would visit every correctional facility in the state of Wisconsin, and we did. And the first time I went into, like, getting used to that door lockin' behind me. Yeah, hearin' that, hearin' that. Because Keisha used to work at Oak Hill Prison.
She was the director of education at Oak Hill prison, creepy. I went up there and gave a commencement speech. But when I went in that sale, and I've talked about this where they just had that little like slap for daylight to meet the legal requirement that they must have daylight. And then everything was self-contained. And so I was asking the people, I said, so this guy don't come out to sale? They was like, no. I said, well, you take your bath at.
That man pushed they got a plastic enclosure over the TV They pulled the mattress thing up against the wall and the shower head was he took his shower in his cell Everything was self. I forgot which prison that was at but and when I went to Green Bay Baby, what baby? What pond crazy? You know, but the largest prison is Oshkosh
I didn't realize, I didn't think I realized. They have over 500 staff. That prison generates so much money for that community in terms of just the ancillary. That's the whole thing about prisons. Right.
that, you know, people like we are the one in my neighborhood. If you go up to Walparn Dodge. It's right there. Right there. There's houses. It's house right across the street. And when you say hood, be clear. Neighborhood. Not the bad neighborhood. It's in the middle of the neighborhood. And Lena and I literally, when we would pull up to these prisons because there's no signage. None.
You know, but you get up right on the area and I'm like, we're in a residential area. Are you sure we're going the right way? And this before GPS was real big, we just trying to figure out our way. But literally people was coming out the house to walk across the street to the prison. And I'm looking in there, go to daycare and the school right there, all of it. And I'm like, between these two people, you make a 70, 60, 70, 80 thousand dollars a year with overtime, a hundred thousand dollars a year.
Both the husband and the wife, both working at the prison. Yeah. Different shifts going in. And that was really one of the biggest employers in some of these towns. Well, I remember it was, I don't know how I was talking with a young lady. She was from Red Granite. And she talked about how Red Granite really competed hard to get a prison up there. You know, because especially when you have an economic downturn, you know, like the industry in your towns are wiping out or farms are being bought up by corporations.
It becomes prison and then doing tough economic times That's when you can get a lot of people to go work at prisons when when the economics are good then people But it's crazy. That's why they said Dodge County is the most overrepresented County in the state because they count all those prisoners Fox Lake is in Dodge County. Another thing that Lena fought against because inmates are counted in the census population numbers
for the place that they are incarcerated at that point, which means those communities are getting basically $1,000 a head in federal funding for every inmate that they got locked up in the town. Or even how they draw the district lines. Yes. And so it's like, so you don't want these people for no other reason, but you use their physical bodies for money for your district. And then you cannot get out of Waupon and then move to Waupon. You have to go back to the community.
So all of the resources, I mean they so you getting resources like you got 20,000 people driving on your streets and you really only got 5,000 because they all in jail. They're not going nowhere. They're not using none of those resources. Now in fairness, that's also the case with UW Madison. Right, because they get to count. They get to count the students.
So it helps matters. Somebody somebody when those communities let get a prison they literally have a parade because it's money You get money and that's why Lena and I when all that pushback and fighting about that juvenile facility coming here and people was doing all that hooping and hollering I'm like Are y'all crazy because these people make millions off of us Why wouldn't you want those jobs in our own community? And as we will tell Tom Barrett they our kids
Those are our people but we're gonna send them to somebody else and then when they get abused and beat then everybody won't be up in arms Exhale good morning
I used to go visit, visit like, like Uncle's Hill, right? None, but open fields, corn, holes, and, and, and, and the all outdoors in the Mississippi. Now that I got older and I go fishing, man, that's how I've done it.
Everybody worked there. Everybody worked there. They got like, I mean, like three, two nice hotels that everybody in the prison go to have a drink. And everybody you went into, the way you worked at. Oh, I worked at prison. Where you worked at? Oh, I worked at the prison. I mean, everybody. And now,
When they do the distances the prisoners live out there too. Yeah, they're counted. And that's crazy. Yeah, right. I thought, I mean, who reached me? Remember grass fields? Now when you go, go to Minnesota, you see houses out there? I was going the wrong way when I was going to Minnesota. St. Troy.
Hudson. I'll notice that I earned eight years in 1996. And I went through the challenge, incarcerated boot camp, and I went through Black River Falls, Jackson, Jackson, and New Richmond, County Jail, and then through the boot camp. And, man, going up there to right now, it's totally different. Like, neighborhoods, huge neighborhoods.
That's the biggest job in these towns up to these parks. So, yeah, y'all right, that's crazy. Now, funny you talk about Prairie Duchenne, that's where Campion used to be, which is a Catholic boys boarding school. What was it called?
Bar near your red granite So I said there's a great bar near red granite. I'm like, yeah, I mean it's it's there's places we wouldn't even know about You know, it's it's prison appreciate you, you know Jesse Jackson talked about that, you know, and I didn't understand the prison prison industrial complex and Something if people are not paying attention The Obama administration
got rid of privately run facilities for federal prisoners. The first thing Sessions did when in the first Trump administration was rescinded that. And so now, and you know, you were just talking about Stephen Miller, you have these private entities that are building these detention centers, right? And then the folks they're holding
immigration charges are going to so they're talking about like the worst one that we knew about was what was it the swamp down in Florida that they had to close down alligator alligator Allen yep I mean because people felt like okay these are and Michelle you did a great job because most of the people they're picking up are not dangerous criminals
But they have a quota and see and then it plays into this whole idea because Democrats have to they have to be very careful like didn't they go after Kamala Harris because she was supposed to be the borders are she really wasn't right, but then they talked about the number of people came in under Biden and But then we forget
That part of why Obama wasn't as popular in Hispanic community was because of the number of deportations. He did they called him the porter-in-chief Right, you know, so but I think it plays into a certain emotional thing where people feeling like It's like when when meat will call in and make it sound like these folks from other places are taking jobs that Americans would have that's not true and then as a matter of fact because of this is having an impact on
The laborers who would come in and work farms, right? There's a shortage and so people don't realize so your prices are gonna go up because you don't have people to pick the crops You know and and so, you know, you come off and look I was There's something that they used to do during the time during Roman times called bread and circus and bread and circus was basically Circus Maximus was the big coliseum
That's where you had the gladiator fights, you know, the lions, the whole thing. And what, what poor people would come, rich people would throw them bread, right? And then the circus was the entertainment. Someone was describing, they said, now Trump does bread and circus without the bread. So when he does that UFC fight, all these things where it's all his pageantry, you know, where's the diversion from people's actual suffering.
and people in this country are suffering. That's why you're seeing more and more. The question will happen, and let's get this grand-platter. This whole so-called movement of democratic socialism. Socialism has always been a response to capitalism on bridle, right? If you go back to the 20s when they were going through the Depression, one of the reasons why we got the New Deal was because communism,
was picking up steam in terms of people wanting to joke, because they could see the inequity in equity. Is that the right word? That was happening in terms of the economic system. And so people said we want it fair. And I did a whole thing here on Milwaukee because Milwaukee from 21 to 60 has socialist mayors.
So, because again, so many things that we have been able to accomplish as a country, it has been done with elements of socialism. You know, again, public education, public roads, social security, you know, parks, all of that. But I did want to take a second because a lot of people may not be familiar with that phrase that you use because you never hear it. So, you know, not to you and the intellect.
on bread and circuses. But it actually dates back to a poet who said, give them bread and circuses and they will never revolt. And that was the part I wanted to, because I was trying to remember the exact quote, I wanted to bring in entertain them, superficial appeasement. And that's what, that's what they, you know, we, they, they give these people. And so that whole concept, but that was the important part of that. And they will never revolt.
I've given you somebody to hate, I've given you somebody to target, I've given you somebody to be mad at, that's the entertainment, and you will miss you. What I'm doing to you. Exactly. My hand is in your pocket robbing you. When he, you know, he sit up and talked about how poor white southerners, you know, that, you know, just sit up and remind them you're not a nigger, you know, and they kind of run with that, though they're still hungry, still dealing with poverty.
My dad is from a little town in Kentucky called Monticello. And I had never seen poor white people. Now, when you say poor white people, I'm talking poor white people. I mean, it's like they look like black people living in Mississippi. And the struggle in this country, though, race is a part of it, is really race and class.
And so the people that Trump will appeal to, the so-called white males, white males are feeling vulnerable in this economy because the economy is moving in such a way where it's more beneficial to women in terms of being able to work, the type of work you do. And for men who want to really get out and do this whole laboring kind of thing, technology is making people less and less needed. And so who does it impact on? Primarily men.
You know if you look at somebody just said the Trump just poo poo the black unemployment rate, which has gone up under him I'll say it again. It's gone up under him. We're not even talking about it, right? Right, and so we're all distracted over here with this as Kathy Hughes said be careful of the weapons of mass distraction You know we're over here and and and this is this is this is happening Wow, Graham Graham Platner
Yes, sir The the individual who has a deadline today to make a decision if he is going to wait no, I think he really thought Up until like the last round of legislators that have bailed on him that he could survive this Graham Platner the Democrat running against Susan Collins for the seat in Maine. Yep, and I'll see that
Them said targeted because they believe that it can help them flip the Senate and now that is all in jeopardy because it is cats personal behavior But the purse first person to scream on them was his wife She she said under the guise of I'm just gonna go ahead and put this out here because it's going to come out There are all these sexting
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say oh did you that woke you up okay but his wife put out the like after they got married all of these text messages surfaced that he was texting women after he was married sexting you know sexual innuendo blah blah blah so then you know everybody got their moral fiber in a democratic party Donald Trump is scandalous 19 women accused him blah blah blah and so but we can deal with sexting
Because then we get a word of an affair. Now we got another woman that has come out and said, no, he raped me. He crossed multiple lines. He was told to stop. And so then people were hymning and hawing about, well, what's that state, though? Because we could flip the Senate. We could possibly impeach Trump. And that was one of the things I'm so glad that you are hitting this this morning, because
When you have to think about like how much and this is what republicans have been doing I think a lot since they have Welcome trump into they fold. How much am I willing to tolerate to get what I want? All right Now here's the two-edged sword with this Bill Clinton Monica Lewinsky, right? People knew or believed that it was an inappropriate relationship
feminist, though, because it was more important that they see the agenda that Clinton was doing came out and supported him. I do not know if that was a Republican, if that would have been the case. Obviously it wouldn't have been. And you used this term out the selected outrage, right? And, you know, Trump went after him. Yeah, for that. Yeah, I'm going. He just wanted to be in it for him. He just wanted to have something to say.
What I find amazing is that Republicans are going to use that, yet Donald Trump is the embodiment of that type of aberrant behavior towards women. So I'm even interested to see how much of it the Republicans actually are willing to say.
There's enough to just kind of let it fester on its own because Democrats are raising enough saying about it that the Republicans because you don't want to be put in a position where Somebody says well, what about your boy since you so upset since you so outraged about you know Platinum's behavior. What about Trump's behavior? So I think they're gonna tread a light line in relationship to it but Democrats having to now reckon with how
that point about principles, how principled they really are when we potentially could get back control of the Senate. And then I think the, um, I say it all the time, the greatest sin is exposure. There are a whole lot of private behaviors that are going on and here's the difference. And then here's the deal with the dude, you know, and I guess cause you're, they said, do you have anything else that could come out? He go, no. Oh, this little thing about rape. Then here's the other piece.
Tattoo Bernie Sanders and Bernie Sanders recruited this dude, right? So, you know, I think it's it's and I guess and look anytime There's an allegation of rape anytime. There's an allegation of domestic violence. We need to take it seriously, you know, but I just and not knowing
the dynamics of what actually went on you know like like Rhonda and I would well she was joking I didn't find it funny she said that if if she won it was a fight and if I won it was the best violence yeah you know because we were
We we dated for years. We were together for years But this one time, you know, are we in a whatever and he come through and I say no because I was like Well, how did he get in your house if you didn't want him there, right? But you open the door now again, don't nobody jump on me because I know You still can tell people know right up until the moment, right? You know a penetration. No, I changed my mind get off me. Leave me alone I don't want to do it. You have the ability to say no
The entire process the entire step of the way you can change your mind but real talk says that but in a interpersonal relationship Because that's what muddies the water right and then so and again not minimizing the allegation I'm also saying there's probably some other behavior on her side that we're not hearing about His is going to a different level and because we're not there. What do they say? There's his side her side and then the truth, right? Well, the thing is it's gonna be interesting to see if he pulls out
of the uh race he need to yeah and you know but they are also now upset he must have a good pullout game because remember one of the allegations was he wouldn't use a condom no that he would take it off take it off well so let's have a great so that wasn't all that was like i because i'm like are you trying to impregnate somebody why are you removing this condom that was madness to me but he um you know then he's trying to like okay if i do come out i want to pick my successor and they like bruh you're done
You have no say whatsoever. But I wonder what's that part of it? And then I think are there people out there who still support him and Does he then have sway with them to say I need to get behind right out? I need or I need to get behind so I don't know it's complicated I mean but he and Rhonda asked his background to me. I don't even know how really eclectic. It's really interesting background He was a juvenile delinquent when he was in high school
He was at a boarding school. Then he had to go to another school. Then he says he took a gap year and went to Africa and somewhere else. And then he joins the military was in for eight years, comes out as a private security contractor. And then you go work in oyster ring or something. But his family's background. Yeah. But I mean, you know, and so you go from oyster ring to somebody plucking you off the field or the ocean, wherever you get the oysters from. And then say, hey.
We want you to run for Congress. I'm like... You're listening to Community Voice and Rhonda asked me that I see Andrew Gilliam. Oh my god! Oh my god! Are you going to talk about it? I don't know. Well, we guess we can. I'm going to leave. I'm going to listen to you. Well, please talk about Andrew Gilliam. Rhonda, how you get caught again in Alabama?
What bet Like I'm like go sit down somewhere dog like what are you doing? The promise
And you are here just in these streets all records when that when I came across yesterday, man, I was sick. I was because what a waste. You're listening to Community Voice Michelle. Thank you. Callers, I really appreciate your patience. I'm going to get you right after the break. We'll be right back with your host, Keith Parris. Welcome back caller. Welcome to the program.
Good morning. I don't want to be. Get to you. You hear me all right? Yep. No change. I don't know if y'all are still talking about Grant. Glad to know because I've been up for a minute. If you can't hear what you're listening to, y'all are talking to the body. I'm still talking about him. Yep. You know.
what it seems like to me. And he said, this could be true about him. I think both Democrats are trying to lean towards that. Now, my take on it is that people don't really know, I shouldn't say people really don't care anymore. To me, it's like, it's like almost win at any cost now. The reason I say that,
The chief in charge right now is Donald Trump with all those allegations that came out against him. And they made air rescues in the world for him. I haven't hurt anybody. We can't just break heaven off. Have you? No. And what about P. Hesse? He used to pay the lady off $50,000 right? Right.
But, and I think that's where, where, if they win us, when that genie gets out the bottle of heart to put it back in, because now it's like, oh, okay, the ball to the values are all gone now. So, you know, we, if we don't start fighting dirty, because they fight dirty teeth, they fight dirty. And if, and if every time we keep taking them to more high ground, how are we ever going to win when they fight dirty? And then we fight not for all the time.
So if I, so if I, so if I kicked you, kicked you in your, in your rocks, then I just turned around and let you, and let you kick me again. I keep letting you kick me. How we ever go win if we don't fight back. And so I think that's, that's, that's where we're at right now. Uh, I think he's going to drop out the race because he should have, if he was equal to did it by now, don't you think? No, he's gonna, he's definitely, he knows he's gone. I think he's trying to.
Use what low leverage he has but I think they they he has to go. I mean it's it's It's it's and I'm sorry. Let me just there's a double standard, you know Who was the the the guy the congressman who lied about everything? Yeah, yeah, the Spanish guy now the Republicans didn't put him out right away because they needed his vote
right So they let him hang around just long enough where you know, he could still because they had such a slim majority I know you know when you say that it made me think and I had to respond to a listener on this this whole thing if you ain't cheating you ain't trying the question is Should there be ethics in politics?
Okay, well part of that is you be an ethical means that you could you could lose a race So what's more important that person being ethical or a person Doing what they need to do in order to win because there's a good that could be achieved by them winning But here's my whole thing Pete We are told from the time that we're coming up be careful what you do
And if you know you have these things in your path, that's why I'm scratching my head about a lot of these politicians. You know you got this stuff. When we talk about skeletons in your closet, you know you got this. Game one that doesn't have them. Why would you run? Why would you run?
Well, I think you run because the hope is that it won't come out. But look, man, someone said if perfection was a prerequisite, no one would serve. So yeah, I mean, it's that's a tough one. I mean, it's in the clergy. It is. I tell people about I love the sign that this Methodist Church on Sinistry where you drive by and I think it's still up. They might have changed it on their marquee. This is that every
Saint has a past, every center has a future. Keith, why do you think I want to work? Well, I mean, I get that. I mean, and if people do, and with research opposition now, I mean, you know, that opposition research where people can go in, you know, it's all out there. It's a question of, is it something that you can use? You know, because they're going back on some folks, who was the dude from Alabama?
And he was a US senator or run more The Supreme Court judge more down there and they had allegations of him liking 14 year old girls And they went back what 20 years 30 years on that so I mean it It's a different time, you know, John Kennedy was a Philander. I mean
And thank you, Michelle. And so it's a tough one, man. I mean, you wouldn't be able to pass to a church if we just went on once past, right? And I think those things have to be because when you talk about allegations of rape or allegations of domestic violence, I think how we handle that is important because then we send a message out that maybe some behavior is just not acceptable.
And when we start talking about intimate partner violence, when we begin to talk about sexual assault, to me, that's a bridge too far. Now, this guy, that's running in Texas. Don't you have some allegations behind that? Wait a minute. They just ran a tape of Paxton in Europe with his mistress. I just saw that yesterday, the day before.
They knew that Paxton was gonna really, Texas would have been in play. You know, Texas has not elected a Democratic senator since Lloyd Benson. So the fact, they got close with Beto or Rourke, but this guy, Taylor Eco, and then you put up against Paxton, they said it should never been Paxton. He brings all kind of baggage. So you're gonna have his baggage.
Plus the baggage that Trump brings, right? Cause now all of a sudden, now Hispanics have had a change of heart when it comes to Donald Trump. So it, Texas is going to be, Texas wasn't even supposed to be in play and Texas is in play now. And the fact that this, this, this picture just came out. Now I'll say this, some people feel so strongly about their political position that they will look the other way when it comes to the wrongdoing of the candidate that they support.
And then I leased the sponsor because about that access Hollywood tape, that's it. That should have shut him down right off the bat. Right. Yeah. But do you know what happened? That's how the word came out and then made a statement that they have been investigating Hillary Clinton in July. So that muted that whole access Hollywood tape, which was running that changed the whole game.
So, you know They were going into this whole Russian collusion piece and whether or not her campaign had originally authorized the dossier and So they were going in looking at that and then come he comes out and says that there was investigation They found no wrong doing
He put us he tipped it because people going well Why were they investigating there and then you remember her server? So there was all these things And so yeah, I mean that how you know, they call it October surprise We thought the October surprise was going to be that tape, you know the Hollywood access tape But then Comey came out and and then people already just played into people already saying that look I'm never gonna vote for a woman
Here's another reason why you know people are always saying that you know Hilary Clinton there was something really You know kind of suspicious about her which wasn't the case But you know for some people perception becomes reality, right? So once I get a perception of a person and once I get locked in on that they call that blind spotting I'm not moving from that spot. You know Donald Trump could find the cure for cancer, but the people that don't like him
We'll still not like him He's not to be he's not to be like I looked up the other day and you know how you should Google stuff and you see you got to be careful with your Google sometimes but I Google got there who was the worst president in American history guess who popped up? Yeah, Donald Trump. I did the list I Did the I did the list he is considered the worst because we did the 10 worst and the 10 best and
Obama's number six in terms of the 10 best So yeah, it's no question and he just keeps adding to that legacy You know where people are going they'll look and think Wow Wow, and I don't know if any of those folks who supported him have buyer remorse You hear a little
I'm going to tell you what I'm keeping. I'm going to hang up. The night that we voted right, and I was a little bit nervous about the world, I'm going to go to bed and I'll wake up and find the results right. Guess who checks me at three o'clock in the morning? I knew right then and there. I'm like, damn. Excuse my prayers. Damn. That's how happy we were that this white man had beat this sister.
So, you know, I don't, I don't know how many of them have buyer's room, what's we gonna see, according to these talking here. And you can't believe everything they say they still say that they raise them more money than Democrats and all this kind of stuff. Cause they don't either. I wonder sometimes chief, have America had enough yet. We'll be right. No.
You know, I tell people the greatest book is yet to be written. Human depravity, the most depraved that human beings could be is yet to be reached. And so, no, I'm not surprised. We keep looking for a bottom. That bottom, ooh, no, we haven't even got to bottom yet. And in America, we can withstand it a little bit different than you might have in other countries when it comes to material impact, right?
because we are the most prosperous nation on the planet. So in some ways, and we can do bread and circus on a different kind of level where people are going in, but I just saw this where they're still subsidizing farmers because the tariffs have cost farmers so much money. That's why when he was here, he being Trump was in Wisconsin, it was kind of lukewarm in terms of people went all in. Now his diehard folks are just diehard folks.
But you had people sitting out there in that audience who had been impacted by his economic policies. And look, man, it's like that Michael Jackson song, they don't care about you. You need to understand this. And if all you have, the only thing that's linking you to this dude is your whiteness and materially you're suffering. There's a problem. And you're saying that that whole thing about how young white males are against this war.
Because they realize that if there ever was a draft and called up, they're the ones who are going. You know, so. I never understand the key. It just bothers my mind that racism, sexism, and homophobia can be that job that you'll cut your own. But if they bite you, no one will bite you away. And let me say, I'm glad you brought up the homophobia piece. Because, and I got to get Maggie Haberman's book.
and uh i think the other guy is swan swan fox but she tells a story in the book about how trump knew that all i had to do was start talking about men and sports women's sports and that would distract people again it doesn't happen y'all and what i mean statistically it does not happen but how does that then become the most important issue for folks it plays into your emotions they pimp your emotions right
All right, man, let me do this. Wait, man. You did have a late night, huh? Man, Carter, welcome to the program. Good morning. Good morning. Okay, here we go. First thing I want to say
To those who say they would never vote for a woman, they'll never vote for a woman because they can't tease a woman. Okay, that's why they beat on eight women. And majority of these men that beat on eight women, they're funny buddies, they're gags. Okay, number three, let's look at it. You know why a lot of people like Trump? Because all that stuff he talks about and do is in their household, like sleeping with their own kids. Parking the car quick because you're so high on coke and dope and stick and angel dust.
Okay. All right. So let's just look at it. Yeah, they worried about the transgender, but you worried about the transgender because you're gay. Okay. Well, no, no, I'm not gonna say, no, no, it's not because people are gay. I think they're fearful that they might be. It plays into a whole lot of emotions. Because there's a whole lot of straight people that have problems with transgender gay people. Okay, but please don't mind. If you're fearful,
of being gay. That's mental. And people that are gay ain't trying to get in the bed with nobody with bad hygiene. Trust me, they wise know every time they wise they are. It ain't hidden, okay? Okay. Let's keep it 100. Let's look at the point that they never use logic. They don't use logic because they're dumb, okay? They don't do no critical thinking.
But they don't do critical thinking. Only thing they do is take one little thing. It's just like a person saying, oh, this is the best liquor. If this is the best liquor, now they did, was took some Tito's and put it in an Ashtadam bottle. OK? And you're like, well, OK, we have to look at the fact a lot of these people are stupid and they like Trump.
because everything he do is already in their household, like touching on little kids. You know the people that's doing that, they like it. A lot of them already know for sleeping with their daddy and their daughters, their boys and runaways and junkies, because grandpa said, come sit on my lap.
That's why they all messed up in the head. And you'll find them up at the land. This is at the truck stop. That's why they had home and their heads when beating on them because they don't got no walls down. Because they got more miles with a Lucas oil. Then what is on them? Them freight ladder truck. They had mileage. All right. I got go out like that. Have a good one. You're listening to Community Voice.
We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. Oh my God. Keith Parris. Hi, welcome back and we're joined in studio by Mr. Carl Brown. Good to see you again, man. Good to see you too. How you doing, brother? Man, I'm getting better. Good. I'm getting better. They had, I was actually doing the programs from home.
And people thought I was in rehab. Man, I caught a case, but I'm all good. Thank you. I wish I felt as good as I look. Is that how you say it? There you go. But President and CEO of the Fresh Coast Jazz Festival, what year is this? This is the year, the seventh year. Seventy years. We had our first event in 2019 and then we...
Because of COVID, we took a break and so now we're on to year seven. Man, let's do this because we talk about the lineup. Talk about the work that is generated from the funds that you raised from this entity. We call it a party with a purpose and it started really as a way to give back to the community.
As of this year we will have given out I believe 14 college scholarships grants to 13 schools to
support their music program, sent over 100 kids to music camps, provided 500 plus backpacks full of school supplies, provided instruments to some kids who want to play but can't afford to get the instruments. We have a program where we take young people who would not otherwise get an opportunity to be exposed to careers in the legal profession and advertising industry and we're adding more to that where we take kids into these businesses and they get a chance to see
these careers it's a really cool thing and then we every year we do a benefit concert at Children's Wisconsin and we give out each year probably about a hundred gifts of comfort to those kids and families receiving treatment so it really is about the philanthropic work as much as it is about the music. Let's talk about the music man. What is it with jazz with you? You know what I tell you I remember the day I was a sophomore in high school
My brother and I both had bedrooms in my parents' basement, and my brother was a DJ, and so he always had the new music, right? And I heard something, and I never heard anything like it before, and I went into his room like, what is this? It was David Sanborn's Voyeur Album, and it was the song Wake Me When It's Over, right, that he was playing. And from that moment on, I've been in love with contemporary jazz, right? And so that was really my introduction to it, but both my brother and my dad.
kind of introduced me to the music, right? And ever since I was, like I said, in high school, that's been my go-to. Right, and people don't realize David Sanborn played with the Saturday Night Live band. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he sure did, yeah. And on David Letterman's show, so I'm too. Yeah, so be able to, you know, for me, I heard it, but it wasn't, wow, man, I was like a senior in college. And my college roommate, late Brett Parler, his dad ran a jazz...
Club in DC. Okay. Okay. So he would he introduced me to people that like I'd never heard of George Duke. Yeah, you know, Earl Clube. Yeah, there were people out there. You're talking my language. Yeah, man. That is just like, oh man, if you're with Earl Clube, I don't know if he's still touring. He's not. Unfortunately, we've tried to get Earl, but he is no longer touring, which is unfortunate, you know.
There was another my wife's family knew his family violinist Noah Pointer. Yes. Yes, you know who died from heart disease. Yeah, I mean just He did a song is one of my favorite songs when I feel your soul. Okay, but been able to so when Brett introduced me kind of to jazz because I was still you know, I'm doing earth-winded fire Yeah, yeah, but then that's why I miss hip-hop. Yeah
Because I was so into the jazz and the smooth jazz that I just miss hip hop. I'm kind of like you. I got a little bit of the hip hop, but I was into it that way. Smooth, contemporary jazz and smooth jazz that way too. So I know exactly what you mean. You talked about putting instruments in the hands of young people. Yeah. And I see that there are so many accomplished musicians who, you know, my wife kind of turned me on to him. I, John Baptiste. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, his, his.
his ability not just to play but he gets into they said jazz is like notes within the notes yeah it is but he goes to a level so to be able we're still producing musicians not so much where it's being done by AI yeah and I kind of think so I think it's important that we put
instruments in the hands. It really is for so many reasons. I think, you know, jazz musicians are really some of the most learned musicians out there, right? Most of the ones that I know and talk to have really been classically trained, right? Because to play jazz, there's a real strong improvisational line that goes through jazz, right? And you can't do that if you are not a really solid player, right? And so it takes a lot of time and a lot of practice. But the other thing I love about us getting helping
helping do what we do for young people. I think our young people get too much of a bad rap sometime. I get it, there's some out there that don't do the right things. But I also believe too that if we as adults can help them channel their energies and the things that they like or that they will be interested in, then that's going to keep some of them off the street. That's going to keep some of them from making some choices that may not be the best choices for them. And that's going to give them some hope in the future. And that's kind of our way of putting our arms around them and saying, hey, we love y'all. Y'all have value to us.
We want to see y'all be the best child can be. And I think that one of our training grounds for a lot of musicians was church. Yes, indeed. And we have less and less young people going to church, but that's where a lot of people, and I just, everybody I interviewed, where you start on the drums, right? But being able to go in. So being able to be exposed to that. And even when you look at, you know, MC's rappers, they're listening to all kinds of music. Oh yeah. You know, so they can sample from and you go like,
Wow. So in some ways, you know, people were really down on hip hop. And I think hip hop has really helped when it comes to jazz. What's the piece we play, Miles Davis? And let me say this about Miles, where there's some people, they didn't want to go electronic. Miles goes, is that where we going? Yeah. Yeah. And hip hop, there's a strong tie to hip hop and contemporary jazz. Like Jeff Lorber.
and Bob James are two of the most sampled artists in hip-hop. Their records have been sampled thousands of times. And so there's always been that strong tie between hip-hop. And then now you look at the evolution of jazz, and you see people like Robert Glasper, who hip-hop runs through everything that Robert Glasper does. So it really is, that tie has been there for a long, long time.
If I had the bank, he does a thing out in California. Yeah, his little music thing. If I had the money, because that's expensive, you're going to Marin County. But man, Robert Glasper is. Well, and we got this cat coming this year to the festival, who he really is. His hip hop soul and roots go pretty deep. His name is Jared Lawson. And Jared is Michelle Obama.
Listed him as one of her favorite artists, right? Okay, blue-eyed dude can blow like you would not believe and when you listen to his music It's jazzy. Yes, but it's also it's there's hip-hop influence There's soul influences R&B influences in it. He is going to be somebody I think everybody's gonna be real surprised when they get to check him out That's a great segue. Let's talk about the lineup. Yeah Well, we're excited about the lineup this year like we one of the things we always try to do is we'd like to bring in
you know at least a couple of artists that everybody knows right but then to introduce some artists that are doing really well on the contemporary jazz charts and whatnot but maybe haven't had a chance to get here to Milwaukee yet right so opening up on Friday night we have Eric Essex. Eric has a song that's just hitting the contemporary jazz radio right now and it's climbing up the charts. Eric's a good brother guitar player from Birmingham, Alabama and his brother is solid he's got like
20, 30 albums to his credit, right? Been doing this for decades. Then after Eric, we have Candice Springs and Candice was discovered by Prince, okay? And Candice is a
beautiful voice. She's a pianist, her all girl band. We had them here in 2021. They tore the house down. And so we're bringing her back. And then on Friday night, also, we have Spyro Gyra headlining, which like everybody knows Spyro Gyra, you know, they really are like we were talking earlier. They really are one of the they kind of helped create the genre and they've been putting it down for 50 years and still doing it. And one of the things that they said to me was like,
None of our shows are ever the same because we got so much music. We play the hits. We'll do a medley of the hits, but everybody's going to get a different show no matter when you cut one of our shows. So that's Friday night.
Then on Saturday, we got Marquell Jordan. Marquell is an amazing young brother saxophonist and singer. He's out of Chicago. He played for like 10 or 12 years in Brian Culbertson's band with Rick Braun before he broke off and did his own thing. And he's doing great. Jared Lawson, the brother I was just talking to you about who's fantastic. And then Jonathan Butler, one of my all time favorites. Jonathan is an amazing.
person, but also an amazing musician. He tore so much and none of his shows are ever the same either. And there's so much energy in his shows. His shows are cool. His shows are cool. And he was the very first black artist to be played on a partied era South African radio.
And then, you know, just one of the ubiquitous songs, Falling in Love with Jesus. Falling in Love with Jesus, exactly right. He was telling me about how that song came to be. And it's an amazing story, but I'm hoping he will play that. I'm pretty sure he will. I think he will. Yeah. Well, we worked. He was down.
Harbor Fist. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Of course that was the one everybody seemed to be waiting on. Yeah. Yeah. And he does with the guitar. Yeah. And then the whole, you know, being South African. Yes. Yeah. I mean, he brings, he brings a lot to, and it says something about, I say, I have this little mantra, I love all African people all over the world. That's kind of like, you know, all African people are one, but it's amazing when you hear
African I'm talking about indigenous African people him being from South Africa and the influence that American Africans have had on music. Yeah
Yeah. And then the impact that Indigenous African folks have had on our music. Oh, no doubt about it. I mean, it's a river that runs through a lot of it, man. And a lot of I've talked to a lot of artists who go back to Africa to kind of get reinvigorated and rediscovered too. So yeah, that's very common with artists. But in addition now to the artists that we have come, we got some really cool other events going. So on Thursday, August 20th, we open up the festival with an event we call the pairing and we pair wines with the
music of a famous jazz artist. In this year, we're pairing wines with the music of George Benson. So I just had the fortune the other day of going through and tasting all the wines and selecting all the songs that we're going to pair with the different wines and my life is hard. I know, but that's going to be... Somebody got to do it. Exactly right. That's going to be off the chain. Like when you come in, you get a glass of bubbly.
Then you get to your table, there's charcuterie at the chit table. And you get, it is, it is a, it'll be a platter of cheese and crackers and sausage and fruit and that kind of stuff. Snack food, right? Cleanse your palate, right? While you're trying the different wines and you get to taste four different wines in addition to your, your glass of champagne or bubbly. And then you'll get a commemorative, uh, Fresh Coast Jazz Festival wine glass to take home with you, right? That's Thursday. And we still have a few tickets for that. Then we have the Fresh Coast.
cruise on saturday, which leaves the 80 white stock at back at three, but it's a beautiful playing. This young brother is 17 years old. His name is from the Chicago area. And people that's gonna be headlining these major festivals any time now, but
Wow, that's a pretty full weekend. It is a full weekend and you know we we worked with a couple of our
partners this year because we get it like times have been tough for people this year right you know gas being what it is and groceries being what they are so we really like we said we always wanted this to be about the community we really wanted to be able to do some things to make it easier for people to come out and relax and have a good time at this time when they need it so we got a couple ticket discount opportunities for people this year as well so if you're an AARP member you can get $40 off
of select tickets, right? And then yes, so you can get $40 off select tickets. And then if you're a network health member.
you can get $15 off the regular price of select tickets with the code network. So doing a few things to try to help make it easier for folks to come this year as well. And we didn't talk about what venue this year? At the PAPS Theater is our venue for the concerts. The pairing will be at the Fitzgerald, right? That's an old mansion at the PAPS Theater group renovated into an event space, and that's downtown, close to the Northwestern Mutual campus. And then the Edelweiss Port,
which is downtown right off of Highland.
This this is it's gonna be good. It's a good time We're we're so happy to be able to do it We have a good time. My wife and I laughed as you know We we work up until the time we get there and then we it's go go go go go and my wife is really the one who handles all the logistical stuff But then after the festival we have to go sleep for about a week or two You know and and and I'm hoping just throwing this back out here at one point We used to have a jazz program
Yeah. And let me shout out both her and Sandra Silk did it too. But the young lady we had, she didn't know anything about jazz. Okay. And Keon gave her like this whole big thing of jazz. And her show was, first of all, she had the great voice for it. Yeah. Right. And then her music was just, she went everything from
You know the whole so-called traditional jazz. Yeah, you do coal train and then she would do spiral gyro I mean and the mix was such and so on that Thursday nights Yeah, I made it my business especially being a car because my stereo so much better than my car But I think that I'm hoping that we continue and and it's good that
We have opportunities like this with Fresh Coast Jazz to make sure that that genre stays alive. It's really important. I mean, and I think, you know, there's a lot of people that love this music, and I think jazz is such a big, big box, right? You know, you got, like you said, straight ahead jazz, you got acid jazz, you got, you know, the people calling jazz soul now and contemporary jazz or smooth jazz, and then you got bop and swing and all those other things.
Jazz is a huge box and I think I always try to tell people that you know what, find your lane and find what you like and that's cool. You know, like what you like but experience it all because it all is pretty amazing music. I was watching something and I didn't realize it was an older movie. I don't know if you've watched Samford and Son. Oh yeah! I remember when they did the whole thing, I think it was Scatman, Crothers, it was...
God, it was with Daman, Wilson, and then Red Fox. And the song that they did, I didn't realize that this was just like one of these old jazz standards. And the way they did it. So, man, I'm always listening. And I love songwriters. So we were talking about Duke Ellington when we were doing Black Music Month, but we talked about Billy Strayhorn.
Yeah, yeah, it's all these great writers out there and So I could have did a little bit more with jazz I did some of the local folks that we have here this year, but yeah, I think it's one of those things where it is an American
It's like bluegrass. It's a gospel. It's American art form. It really is. And you asked me about Sanford and Sun as if you didn't see all this gray hair on my head and chin, man. It's true. Man, I shoot all the way to Sanford and Sun probably before you, man. I don't know, man. I was, you know, I would say this had nothing to do with what we talk about, but my program is about everything enough. But, man, they used the N word.
Oh yeah, these was a different time, man. It was. It was. I mean, you just, you know, you just go like, you could never say that now. You could never say that now, but it was just like that. But he did because he did Vaughnville. Uh huh. So a lot of those guys, you would see Leroy and skilled. Who was my other guy?
LaWanda Page. These folks were all like Chilling Circus, Vaudeville, and he did a great job. He brought in slappy white people that, you know, you wouldn't know anything about, but he was very loyal to those folks. And I'm glad it gave us part of our history. Yeah, no doubt. You know, in terms of the skillet in Leroy, but who was this boy, though? Bubba. Bubba Bexley. Bubba. But these guys were all like...
And to be able to do that, to see something we don't see a lot of is tap. Yeah, very true. And how tap was so tied into jazz. Yeah, yeah. And so I think a little while back, I just saw Sevilla Glover, who was after Gregory Hines and Sevilla Glover, the dancer. But they would do it. And I appreciate it.
You all in the past have done somewhere some of the musicians have gone into the but the kids won't be in school Well, we do we do try to make connections though with musicians and with students as well So this year every year we do a Q&A session where one of the major artists will
the morning of their performance at the Host Hotel, which this year is a high place downtown. We do a Q&A, and that's free for music to students and music teachers. We always invite a bunch of music students and music teachers to that, right? So they get a chance to spend an hour with the artist. And this year, Spiral Gyro made it available for a group of students to come to their soundcheck.
Which is really cool, you know, that's a real real neat thing for students to see kind of kind of how it all goes down and then you know Those students are able to make it. We're gonna give them tickets to come to the show that night so they can see how it goes full circle Again, that is the Fresh Coast Jazz Festival that will be held from Thursday, August 20th to Saturday, August 22nd Listen, I'm reading this
the nightcap yeah oh yeah so i'm sorry i forgot to mention the nightcap so every you know we when the shows are over at the paps we can't just go to bed you know this is our this is this is my my weekend to stay up late and be uh you know act like i'm grown and everything right so at the host hotel after the paps
Each night on Friday and Saturday we have a band and there'll be food trucks outside, there'll be you can get drinks inside and that band will pay from 11pm until 1am and it's a really cool vibe because a lot of the art that's one thing I love about contemporary jazz artists is that they're not like
rock and roll with super artists like that who like don't want to deal with the fans. A lot of the artists will come and hang out at this thing with everybody, have a drink with you, talk to you, things like that. And it's a real fun time. So that's and that's free at the Hyatt Place Hotel downtown just west of the Fiserv Forum from 11 until 1 on Friday night and Saturday night.
The fresh coast jazz festival again, it starts on Thursday August 20th and runs through Saturday August 22nd if people want tickets tickets They can go to fresh coast jazz comm or perhaps theater group comm and don't forget those discounts take advantage of that Mr. Carl Brown fresh coast jazz festival man always good seeing you man good seeing y'all too, and I appreciate y'all having me on today There you go
Hey, you're listening to Community Voice. We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. Oh, that rendition. Oh, that was Dan Siegel. Okay. See, that's the problem when you're in rehab at the crib. I can't hear it. I mean, I can turn the radio on, but then I got to get somebody over to turn it so we don't get the feedback. But man, I just, I miss hearing my opening, you know, opening thing.
You know, I was just, you know, there, August 20th will be my ninth year anniversary here. Yeah, so August 20th. You know, you know, talk about past the time. Now, I did, I did, I did the.
Man lazy Don't make me work. I didn't I didn't see that I wasn't trying to be funny. Oh somebody left a cane. Yeah Eddie Eddie left his cane, you know what I can do man. This is this is so cool Bam Go down one more time to now. That's it. Oh man. That thing is like Titanium Boat rum, but I'm thinking about getting me like a elder cane
You know like an African Oh, okay one of my staff kind of like yeah, yeah, man So let it be written, right? I was just asking You know spending so much time at home. Did it was it kind of like COVID did it impact your marriage? No, you know, this is crazy. We came in for COVID
Yeah, remember we came in I mean we didn't have this technology then either. Yeah, you know we that that was I think that's how I got a lot of listeners because we're gonna go The crib captive audience, right, right That's what my buddy told me he was like the only way they'd listen because they had nothing to do like wow No quality here, but yeah, we came in for Coleman. So how did you pass the time?
It looked like it just blew by man. I mean it's it's I was really shocked when you when you text me and said hey I'm coming in today I called your name right away like hey man keep coming in Yeah, well, I thank God for rehab because I'm stronger and so Being able to get because it was the stairs, you know stairs and man still at the crib But in some ways it's good because I'm getting that exercise and using those stairs
Man for a minute there. It was like I mean are you a hundred percent now? No matter fact I have to go in for the epidermal next Tuesday morning That shot You know say they get women when they That's giving birth Yeah, up a girl or something like that. Yeah steroids and something else so and
So, where are they giving you this, you know, spine, right? I hope not. Well, whatever it is, it's a surgical procedure. I think it's the same one that the brewers manager had. Yeah, because you can't move because if you move... Oh, they sedate you. Okay, yeah, because if you move, then you automatically paralyze. So, based on the timing, I might just do the program from home.
But you must have a like a high threshold for pain because you never looked like you were hurting when you were doing the show from home.
I wouldn't have to sit and look like you were playing hooky is what it looked like. All they have to get half dressed. If the camera would have dropped. But the other thing is, and this is a good time now because at least I'm not dealing with all the traffic. What school is it?
you know because that's always but no it's I'm getting stronger you know it's an incremental piece and the physical therapy really helps doing the exercises help and all of this came from that initial was it a fall no it was sciatica okay so you just woke up one morning and the pain had always been there so what it was it just got so bad right and then um it caused you to fall no um
Your body is the therapist explained this to me Your body once has had a pain episode right puts it in your memory. Yeah, so you automatically and so I was trying to avoid pain and I misstepped I Don't think it helped and then I fell again Going into my sisters because I had two bags in my hand and it up falling
And then the day I came here to the station and thank the brother brother Thomas For helping me get up, but it was just like I was trying to avoid stepping Because I thought was gonna cause pain and that's that throws your balance off. So I'm regaining my balance There's an exercise I do now to help me with my balance, but yeah, man It is not as painful as it was But the pain is still there so
Yeah, so I guess you're a real trooper, man. I mean, you know, you you toughed it out. You showed up for Juneteenth No stairs with that Walker. I mean, you know, and then how how were you able to get in without a whole lot of walking? We were fortunate direction. You came here. We were fortunate because we just squoze into little parking spot there on Christine Lane. Oh, okay. And then so it was only like that that block walk from
I don't know what that is that 3rd Street, 4th Street up to and then right walked in the rice grind. So it wasn't I should have did the scooter though. Yeah, I tried. I tried it. I had more fun with the scooter than I did, man. I was doing willies. You know, hey, you know, there's a cripple in here. They out there doing willies. Couple of guys on scooters rolled up.
That kind of challenge to race me, man. Racing John T. As he said, I had the kind of lack of all scooters. So I appreciate you for that, Clark. And then, you know, let me thank Ron and Kennedy because they spent the whole day down there with us. Turned to be real, really interesting. Not the end of it, though.
I said, I told y'all we need to have one show a week where it's the three of us. Yeah. Y'all can have so maybe after the campaign we can we can look at that but maybe maybe we take that uh 11 o'clock hour one day and just do that. Yeah gotta be dope man because I think
I think that the people wanting to see both sides at the table at the same time. But I think the other thing is that these are two very, very, very bright people. People may or may not know that Will was a history major. So when Will can have, so be able to have those conversations at this level.
Of course, it didn't get down to this level. But if we can handle that this level, you know, in terms of being able to... But for the people that are neutral, because I've heard people say this, man, that whether it's the left wing or the right wing, I mean, that we're still part of the same bird. Yeah. And I think that most people will find themselves kind of in the middle. Yeah. You know, like the extreme left, the extreme right, most people kind of hear.
And we can be the lane here or lane there and it really depends and and and and we were just talking about issues That impact you and I'm gonna tell you man. That's why they call it political science
There is a science to this that people don't even realize like the polling becomes important like why polling important polling becomes important because then you can shape and fashion your message Based on how people respond to they have focus groups, right? Just like you selling cornflakes. It's the same thing with politicians. I don't know if anybody watch VEEP But if you ever watch VEEP VEEP is like it's one of those great political
kind of shows and they had five great seasons. I give you and so I think about all these political movies. I just watched Distinguished Gentlemen with Eddie Murphy and Cheryl Lee Ralph. Hi, I'm Inga. When I interviewed her, I was trying that to say, Hi, I'm Inga. That's a good one. DJ always talks about, is it head of state?
with Chris Rock? Yeah, that was a good one too. And Birdie Mack? Yeah, that was my favorite. And you kind of laugh, but then when you look at the reality, they're talking about, it's kind of a cynical way, but that's our politics. And that a lot of people will, the politics is such that people will go on what they feel.
Speaking of politics, I just wanted to get your opinion. I've been busy in back. I'm not certain if you spoke to this but this Agreement that is now Trump says it's over What's your thoughts on that? Well, he also said that they're still negotiating Don't make sense to negotiate. He's true negotiate. He's tired of it. Yeah. Yeah, but I know then what's actually happening
I don't know. It's a tough one We already see the impact that if they decide they want to they being Iran closed down the Strait of Hormuz People just kind of felt a little bit confident that the economy was going to be able to get back But my understanding is that they are firing on they fired on three ships
that went over around Omar to avoid having to go where they can monitor it. And so when they did that, then America did their retaliatory strike. I don't know. I was listening to Trump on the way in and he was talking about bombing bridges and what is that desalination plants where they take the salt out of the water for people to drink. I don't know if he knows that that's a war crime. He don't care. Yeah, that's a war crime.
This war crime. Yeah, so I I'm hoping that it will pass in terms of Because you know they Just was saying that the gas has gas has started to go down and yeah the whole 950 cents cheaper than it was
except in your neighborhood? Yeah, it's still $3.99 over here, but it's $3.40 something on the south side. Well, probably depends on the gas station too. Because you have some of these that are not. That's $3.99. Yeah, they're not like that. What is it? I'm not Amaco anymore, but you know, if it's like the. Yeah, some of those and then you have the little small ones like the one over by me on.
That would be like six seventieth and center. Oh, I don't want to talk about. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm sure it's really cheap out of Costco too, right? Of course you do. You do a half a tank to go out there to fill up your tank. I know because I had to go away on the south side. I got a shout out 85. Got a shout out the gas depot on 27th and Burla. Y'all see that yesterday? Yeah.
Gave away free gas. Oh, yeah, they gave away free gas. I Try not to act like I'm scared That's where the places I do not stop to get gas. No, not because we're about getting robbed. It's just like water down. No I use I use this I use this gas. He's got good gas the gas. He was giving away $10 for the first hundred cars, right? Gas stations don't make money off a gas
Give it away, $10 for the gas. $9 a gallon. It's not $9. I bet you there was a line. I bet it was. The police had direct traffic. There was a line. It was the same car going in circles. No, no, no. I remember when we gave the $25 gas car. Yeah, people were glad to get it. And then the interesting part is because you didn't get out and pump your own gas, they had some of the MPD pumping the gas for the people. Really? Wow.
So do they still get away over here on our accent? She didn't do that. He. Oh, he? No, is he now, right? Yeah, he hasn't done that in a while. Yeah. I think it was last year he did it. I didn't know what. I never knew what that was about. I should go up Keith and the cars be from with that 8th and Keith going around that corner. And I never do this when they was blind enough. Now, do they do they they still do food in there?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
And you know what runs on all those bones your sciatic nerve No, but but you know what it's crazy because what I found out I Believe in that that is true minute your neck bone is connected to this other stuff because once you hurt one muscle it seems like
every muscle in your body is hurting. It seemed like everything is like connected. Because of the nerves. Because of the nerves. Because of the nerves. George, George is commenting there Keith. I'm about to hear it started again. I didn't even see what the stock market is. See it in the stock market. And thanks a lot Zebra. Zebra says always good to hear about a great deal after the fact. You got a phone call too.
Oh, actually. Somebody said it sounded like a radio cage match. Whoa. Oh, the Dow Jones dropped by 800 points. Well, I don't worry because at the end of the week, Friday, before everything closed, Trump is going to make an announcement and say, man, at the straight of her muses opening and ready for service. And then everything will jump up. And then it's going to go into the weekend like he always do. He makes some type of announcement to cause the Dow Jones to shift and go up knowing that
It's going to be closed over the weekend. Right. You know, um, and, uh, Debo used to remind me of this man, uh, during 2020. I never had, um, any shortage of information or subjects to talk about. Cause this dude was what we call him the gift that kept on giving. The gift that keeps on, I want, I want him to stop giving.
Please you know, you know, it's like when a kid that starts off as cute It ain't cute anymore. Yeah, dude, I'm getting ties and never been cute with this guy. I was so And just think back how depressed I was when he won everybody was I mean, it was just like here we go again We go and I don't think most a lot of people realize the impact now. Thank God
In the first administration he had, there were guardrails there. There were people around him who were serious. This time around, think of facts. Well, that's because I believe in that they really cheated this time around because he said that the election was rigged in 2020. Let's not even put that in. But this is to say, but I'm saying, but this is to say procedure in 2020 that happened in 24. You know, and I did logic twice in college. So I think I can ask this question and hopefully get a logical answer.
Every Republican that won one you were the only one that didn't I Mean we talking there there there was you here in the Republicans Who even lost who said the election was Rick? Okay, well I got a call. No, no not you
Come on, man. Call him up to the pro. He never have he never get through the program. Call him up to the program. How are you? I'm good. I want to talk about this. When you tell you, I had it so bad. But I'm really walking. Yeah. I mean, I mean, it's good.
It's getting so excruciating miss me. I'm just I'm like dragging my legs. It was a big word there, Angela. Excruciating. Are you in pain? You'd be surprised with your vocabulary. How expensive your vocabulary will be though. I have to explain the vocabulary regardless if I'm being pained or not, you know. But so anyways, it's just like I'm dragging my legs. I can barely walk some days. I can't
Man, that's just bad. Are you doing any kind of assistance to Kane or Walker? I have a cane and I don't have a walker because my will broke off. So, you know, they won't give me one until next year. So, but then I got my electrical scooter thing, but I can't get it off myself because I don't have a ramp yet. Okay. Jermaine will come by and get it. Ain't that the one you was going to come and pick him up in for June 10th? Yes, it was.
Yeah, I think that what happened with me though was You walk to avoid the pain That's why I was using the walker because the walker then balanced out my walking I know because with a paint cane you're gonna do da da da da da, but with that walker I was straight up and then The therapist showed me with the walker. You see a lot of people Yeah, you need one where
It's supposed to be where you are straight up. We're straight up. So then you're bending over. Right. So if I'm doing like any kind of still kind of got doing a lot of long distance walking, I'm still going to kind of use the walker because the pain is going to kick in at some point. So I'm going to tell you your mind and got so, so, so. Are you doing physical therapy? It doesn't. No, I do not. Because that helps.
My mind's got so intense, I can't sit or stand for a long period of time, or I barely get any sleep. That's how bad this pain is. It's from the top of my head to the bottom of my feet. And what I'm trying to avoid is taking like real pharmaceutical, like painkillers. So right now, I'm just basically using a leaf and Tylenol. They don't, I'm telling you, if you don't get no stronger than worse,
Give it to me and do you know good because man, it's just like I took one around this man. I'm done. I'm so high! Debo. Debo? Is he in here with y'all? I know you hear me. You need to be getting on the phone and calling me when I'm calling you. So make that happen and you know why I'm calling you.
Don't make me blast your ear. All right. Appreciate you. Thank you. Take care. You get better. All right.
If you don't mind, we'll need to stop being such a coward and let callers call in because he puts that mess out there on their way. But there's nobody to call in and challenge him. Because there's been plenty of times I would like to debate him on some of that stuff he puts out there. But he won't let callers call in. And when I ask him about that one that he going to tell me, I can go pay for his program.
So, you know, he could be a history major, whatever he wants to do. But if you, but if you still have stuff out there that you know is not true, I don't know if you listen to Michelle Keith. I don't listen to him, let that listen to you and Michelle. But the few times that I have listened to her, I've never agreed with anything he needs. And I'm thinking about, I'm thinking about implementing the same policy. But you gonna let your brother call in, right?
You know what I said this and I don't remember I know you do with me chat his program. Oh, yeah, and And and and look you need to get the idea out But I can tell you man that people would call in and oh man, I mean it went to a different level So I think that part of it is he wants to get the message out
He's only got an hour. So it's right, you know and people and and he knows No, but then you factor in schedule breaks and stuff like that, right, you know It really eats up your time. So you've only got a limited amount of time especially with him He always has a guest so he's trying to let them get their message and that's even worse because they'd be coming on there with that old crazy mouth But if you know that as nonsense, why are you tripping? Here you go again key
No, I'm just saying that if you know, if I never understand you, they put that nonsense out there and people can't come back. But there are people who think that what you and I are saying are nonsense. Well, but keep what I'm saying is to keep you that people, whether it's an hour, two hours, you still get feedback. Right? When you put stuff out there and nobody can dispute it.
That's why we're in this situation. Okay, but then what happens? Can we take it to his logical conclusion? So you dispute it and then what? Yeah, somebody might listen. They're listening? Oh, okay. Well, who's listening? Not if they're listening to him, but they're not listening to anybody combat him. So they're like, oh man, that was a good point, which you got to say about that, Will. I have to, I watch Fox. I hear stuff coming out on Fox. I can't say anything.
I mean, I mean, that's what we ain't talking about. We talking about. But what I'm saying is that we talk about WNOP right now. And so I'm going to leave it at that. All right. Because I know what y'all going to take up for that clown. No, no. And first of all, hold on, George, he's not a clown. Let me say this about where he might disagree with him. But no, no, Will is one. If you knew him, you know, Will is like one of the real good dudes. Now, politically, we might.
Good dudes don't harm their community. It's not a harm just because you have an alternative. You have an alternative view. Do you think that the Republican Party is good for our community? Well, I think the Republican Party is good or not because of free speech. Because of free speech, just like you have the opportunity. Others have the opportunity, too. So we don't shut it down because we disagree with it. They shut it down.
You can hear me say shut it down. No, but you are shut it down when you can't you can't make the point because you're constantly arguing with people about the point. Y'all said meat show would take a different direction and leaves would let you call it. Now, meats would try and overtalk you and tell you to hang up on them. But then how productive was that? How productive was that in terms of dialogue? Is it any different than what me and you do right now?
I think you and I can have dialogue. But what I'm saying is that, you know, it is, it's more than me. It's more than you in this world. And we have people with diverse views based on their experiences. And whether I agree with them or not, they have the right to express it as long as they're not. Okay. But then so opinion wouldn't be going over your head is that I wish that he would let callers call it and combat some of that nonsense.
Whether whether you can see them. All right, I gotta go anybody that hurts the community is not a good guy to me. Okay. All right. Thank you Well, I don't know how much he's hurting the community, but okay, that's it. Let me thank mr. Carl Brown Clark Kent, thank you. Hey, man, try and be with the people Mr. Jermaine right out of hospital People as always appreciate you ma'am
Hey y'all, good Lord willing quick. Don't rise up to talk to everybody tomorrow and as always go from this place in peace
