title”: “Unpacking Community Health: From COVID to Mental Wellness”,”thumbnail_title”: “Health & …

Good morning. Welcome to Community Voice. I'm your host Keith Parris. I want to thank everybody for joining me live in the studio. I'm no swacker. I'm not a swacker. Yeah, boy, I'm telling you, it was hard because I had a different routine going on at the crib. Like, oh, man. I know your wife said, yo, he gone.

Yeah, man, I get up, man, brush my teeth, comb my hair, put a top on it, and then I'm sitting there just chilling in the crib. So I had to fight traffic this morning. So anyway, it's good to be there. Take the rollers out. So good morning, good morning, Milwaukee. Good morning, Clark Kent.

Hey, man, try to be down with the people, bro. Hey, man, you know what? I don't see that pain on your face no more. Hey, it's still there. I saw the orthopedic yesterday. It looks like I'm getting epidermal. And yeah, man, but you should have saw me out here figuring out how to get up those stairs, because last time I was on those stairs, I fell. So I'm going like, oh, OK. Yeah, so I'm getting stronger, man. Yeah, I mean, it takes.

takes time you don't you don't heal like you do when you're 26. When you're 26 man you know you you you back you pop them you back up man. Apostle. Man it's so good baby to hear music in here man. I'm sitting there you pointing like. It ain't nothing like sitting in. But you know what's crazy. What's that? We work doing COVID.

We were here every day doing the lockdown COVID we were here every day. So was y'all required to get clears we had They set us up and I got a fine there. Everybody was giving me heat about the Press pass. Oh, but that was like if you got stopped you could show that you're supposed to be out because we were considered essential Yeah, and so yeah, we were here every day doing COVID and I remember and today is the

First Tuesday of the month, so we have Julie and Brenda. They would call in by phone. Yep, for some. How many people they stopped doing that COVID? Did they ever catch anybody? Yeah, oh yeah. Yeah, I don't, you know, it would be like...

There's a particular barbershop over there off of 60th and Hampton. That was over every day. Man, it'd be dark when you see cars all out there, man. Did anybody do a COVID look like they here one getting dead? Yeah, so they had them down. It was, you know, some people, what we understand now.

Is very different than when you're operating in real time You hear people talk about the fog of war and so you know, we had not seen a pandemic a global pandemic since the early what 1917 1918 when they had the influence outbreak so we had never experienced anything like that and so

man, learning science. And I thought it was, it was, what's the word? Prisciat, that we had Be Healthy Be You because then we had people from the health care community talking about it. And then, you know, the number of people we lost, you know, because of a lot of misinformation, you know, we were constantly

trying to make sure people got the most accurate information because what you don't know can kill you. And I remember we first started, I had brothers, oh, black people don't get COVID. The first four people that died in Milwaukee were black. And I knew three of them. So it became, and then we began to understand.

How you introduce a a not a new virus the virus has always been there, but you introduce it into the biological ecosystem and How diseases spread right and we don't think about it like the common cold it's probably the most commonly spread disease but we you know, it's I learned a lot. I learned a lot

And I've been getting that flu shot ever since. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So when they came up with the COVID shot, I tell you, it's just the same as the flu shot. You know, I mean, it has some effects, but it worked. It worked. When I got COVID, I didn't even know I had COVID. You know, it wasn't Rhonda tested. And, you know, I thought I had a, I thought it was my like sinuses.

She missed you. Okay, let's see what happens. Welcome back to the studio. Welcome back. Okay, people coming in the studio talking. Anyway, phone lines open 4144445250.

You didn't even work here no more. So, you know, all of this was now my space. You. I knew some was up with the security code got changed. You know, we was like, is he ever coming back? So then you come back, you know, with demands, but welcome back. Yeah. Well, I wasn't gone. I know I wasn't gone.

But it's still different than not having you walk through this. And here's the thing. I've done live performances, not live performances, but I've done live appearances, right? We did Juneteenth and we also did the gubernatorial forum where I was able to get there. So it's getting better. It's getting better. Well, you look good. You look like you've not been outside.

Your skin look all fresh. Let me round and I was sitting on the on the line I this morning having coffee. And what crumpets? No. Because you know, I don't eat sweets. No, that's right. Okay. You know, you bring us cranky house though. How you gonna come back and bring us cranky house? Because I can't carry the box. We would have came out to the car and got it. Okay, okay. But y'all were sitting out on the line I just thought about this was the first time.

This summer that we sat outside having coffee in the morning. Y'all inviting about just like that. Man, it just kind of impromptu. Really? Yeah. All right, I'll be at the next one. So this whole this whole Obama this whole Obama George Washington things like the tan suit. I mean is that

Uh, nah, because the black folks thought the tan suit was fly. We didn't care about the tan suit. When you said about the slave holder, you had a great admirer. I'm going to the Obama Museum to have a chat with me. OK, I'm not going to do it, because I could say I think I knew the context in which he was talking, but I understand.

George Washington, you're absolutely correct and I found out this little piece about that particular slave woman that he was going after and To his to his death and he lived to be close to a hundred, right? I mean because I think she had escaped like the last nine years of his life And I don't know if he freed any of his enslaved After he died. I know Thomas Jefferson that was part of what he did. But man Sorry. Yeah, historically. Yeah, like I said, I think

Had he not chosen that phrasing Well, you know what but I did the listing With two weeks ago Clark where you know Obama is Washington is up there in the top five presidents of all time and then Obama's number six He's number seven he should probably be hired in that he should be I mean in terms of academic in terms of you know

The plans, the ideology, the things that he tried to do, he gotta be in the top four. Well, I always, you know, tell people that- He's not gonna be on Mount Rushmore though. No, Trump's gonna do that. They gonna blow that up. Man. I'll meet everybody here. The pure narcissism that you think you've done so much for as opposed to what you've done to America.

Let's understand it. Barack Obama did things for America. You have done things to America. Let me get the caller and then I'm with you and I'm not superstitious. You didn't have to make that phone call. Right. The soccer. Yeah.

You didn't have to make that. Dude, everything he touched me. He is a bad love charm. And then what you did was you gave Belgium, Bulldog board material. Come on. And the whole, and you said the whole world is cheering for Belgium right now. I was cheering for Belgium. Right. And then you could tell the American players, well, look, they, first of all, they had the easiest draw. That draw they had was the easiest draw. They playing that home.

And look, we have sucked in soccer on the men's side for years. So now they actually get to play against some competition. Belgian is good. So because I was thinking, did they say that Belgium had, either it was Belgium or Spain, who they would have got had they be Belgian, who has not allowed a goal in the entire tournament?

But these you could tell these dudes were young They're not playing at premier, you know at the premier level and so man, it was just like when they scored that first goal you went like But the kid that did the free kick. He's good. Oh, yeah He's good and then they they didn't want to see them a leak or something like that. Yeah Yeah, he's good. He's had two of those. Well, yeah, I know they said this was the second one But I just as I said that last go

Do you know how unusual it is to score four goals in a game? Because do you know how motivated everybody was? And I think the U.S. came in understanding that the momentum had shifted for them because of this was done. Well, I think the other piece of it was they had

They had practiced without them without them. Yeah. Now you got to go back and change your game plan. But there was a couple of things. It was a big stage that first goal where they looked like you're going to get it. You're going to get it. I mean, it was it was just like it was obvious. Did you see the when Trump was in the Oval Office or with the kids? And I forgot who that was. I think it was Ted Cruz or one of them said to Trump.

Thank you for making the phone call so they can, you know, get rid of the red car and Trump look. So everybody kind of, you know, laughed a little bit and then Trump kind of looked, it was like this guy right here. But it was like everybody knew you made the phone call. He told everybody made the phone call. Everybody knew. And then I remember I told you just how corrupt.

And I told you how how FIFA is just like one of the most corrupt sports federations in the world So the fact that they made the phone call, but yeah, man now this this is twice in a row Yeah, this twice in a row. I'm sure people say help the bear Yeah, don't help me because you know, he didn't help the Knicks Now after a while

You know, it ain't happens as, you know, it's a pattern. Call and welcome to the program. That part. Good morning. Hey, what's up, my brother? How you doing? I'm doing all right. What's happening? Hey, welcome back, brother. Thank you. It's alive. That's what's up.

I had to call in because you said something about that president. He took people teeth out. Yeah. So he don't tell you how many teeth he took out to get the right ones. Wow. That's horrible. Oh, wow. Why do we have to revisit George? I'm like, man. Hey, but man, it's good to see you. It's good that you back in the studio, man. And um, let's love y'all. Yup. So you mean to tell me that this cat was walking around with

a different size teeth in his mouth. You know, I don't know if you see some of these commercials out there about these dental places and they show the people's teeth and it's kind of like, dude, really? What happened? Oh man, let me, let me, you know what? And I understand that market advertisers, they understand demographics and markets and God, man, I'm going to tell you because I watch a lot of news channels. Yeah.

the number of pharmaceuticals. I mean, just medicine everywhere. You know what I mean? Just medicine everywhere, man. Caller, welcome to the program. God, that's just good to be able to do this. I can see who's calling. I can see. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Well, I'm going to be like Tiffany Hattie said last night.

Hey, you're one of the black first black people he ever held before We gotta give him a little bit and I give him a half credit for that I Don't think he was we all well let me not go there You already right and I hadn't even thought about the fact that the dude he got back in did diddly He did diddly it was like

Oh, man, really? But really think about that, though. I said, you're right. You know, you wouldn't be talking to the TV. Now, look, let's just be honest. I mean, it was going to be tough if they beat Belgium for them to beat Spain. I'm just, I've watched Spain. I was listening to Spain and watch Spain. And Spain is not giving up a goal.

I mean, that just just shows you and anybody understand, you know, soccer, that means a lot. And then the Americans getting four goals scored on them, man. That's like a hundred and thirty, you know, like an NBA game. Well, because normally what? Well, no, no, this game was all wrong. I mean, you know, they had a lot going on. And I think.

That that first goal just kind of just sucked all the air out of them You know they could just kind of tell and the Belgians was talking they was talking trash and I think too that when you have to change your game plan because you have a player that you was Planning for right now you have to restratatize your strategy because of a phone call that was made to the higher ups and his and not guaranteed you They pressured this manager to play this player. No

I mean, he was going to play. Had he not got the red card, he's one of the better players on the team. Exactly. So that's why he got the red card. He was going to run. And they made the phone call. So it was sent down through the pipeline. This guy is to play. And this is cheating. And cheaters never win, man. Like never win. That ain't true. That ain't true. That ain't true. You want to be. And I had someone who reached out to me when I said that.

Had invoked the Oakland Raiders old credo if you ain't cheating you ain't you ain't trying But I'm just saying yeah, sometimes cheaters do win. I mean, let's not make it sound like Like we live in this world if you do the right thing you're going to win. No No, no, that's not the world we live in Yeah, man, so you watched it You know, no, no, no, no, I'm not into soccer. Oh man

I can talk about that, but other than that. Speaking of basketball, man, Darryl is going to be a problem. Well, OK, let's keep it in perspective. Well, it is rookie. It is rookie summer. Yeah, it is. But you see the potential. Yeah, you see what this cat could be like, hold on. And his shot is so it's so soft when he's shooting, it's just.

It's like angels in the air like That's that's called the heavenly home Yeah, yeah, I just happened Because it was obvious that the soccer game was over. I I just caught a little bit of the bucks and Get a chance to see a cup. He was what was he picked number five well

No, he was picked seven. Clippers had the fifth pick. Broccoli had the sixth pick and then Sacramento had the seventh pick. Sacramento had been good since the 90s. Yeah, since Chris Webber. Right, right. But then they couldn't beat the Lakers. Bobby Jackson. Bobby Jackson. Yeah. The coach, current coach, right? Christie. Christie was on that squad? Yeah, that's the one that punched Kobe. Did he? Yeah, he punched Kobe. No.

Wouldn't he the one who got in the fight with Derek Fisher? It wasn't Fox. No, it wasn't Fox. Fox too pretty to fight. It wasn't Fox. No, no, no. But this was this was Mark Jackson's ex wife or something. Do came down to the it was something. Mark Jackson came. It was somebody that that that tussled with with him. I know.

That's what he should have Great basketball player man, but he he is dude. I was never a fan personally of Kobe Kobe Bryant But great basketball play can't take that away from speaking of Kobe, you know Mike Dunley the which was our GM back then was gonna draft Kobe and

He went to Herb Cole, told Herb Cole he was going to draft Kobe told the kid, right? He was on the draft board to be drafted. And the reason why Herb Cole told Mike Dunley not to draft Kobe was because he didn't show up for a workout, because his agent told him not to show up. We would have had Kobe. Or he didn't want to be in Charlotte, so he ended up in LA, so.

Maybe we would have, maybe we wouldn't. No. The agent didn't want him to come here. And that's what it was. The agent told him don't work out for him. They had everything planned and set. And the agent, and the agent counseled it at the last minute. Colby would have been a buck, man. He was anyone that would come here.

And that's what I don't like, man. Like, how you gonna force players? It wouldn't have been bad because that's when Ray Allen was here. Yeah, it wouldn't have been a good team. Yeah, that is correct. Well, I think you have to look at, and if you're able to put people in a position where they can make money outside, so the market becomes important. You know what you're able to do. Like you were talking about Yanis. Yanis was perfect for this market.

And the stuff that he wanted to do miami's uh, it's a different animal man. It's a different animal, but But he will there is a very large uh, Nigerian population down there. So You know, I mean, I think you know, he'll get that but Yeah, but he ain't gonna have his privacy like he think well, I think well, I think they they mess with you and they don't mess with you Well, he even said but if you if you big deal, yeah

I can remember a guy, do y'all remember Ronnie Cycly? Of course, Ronnie. Circus. Yeah, he played, man, he was a god down in Miami back in the day. You know, before Lonzo Morning got there, and then Lonzo Morning got there, and he was able to, you know, do dah, dah, dah, dah. And he built his foundation, the whole thing. I've never seen anybody up in Pat Riley's behind as much as you see Lonzo Morning. But as a matter of fact,

She's like my sister. She's out in Portland. Her and her husband, they work for his foundation. So I think the NBA team because a lot of them morning he was in Charlotte and they, you know, they orchestrated that whole deal to get him out of Charlotte to get him to Miami because they wanted these major teams to have star players, you know, to help push the brand to which.

It's not fair to do any of these other teams. So you might as well just go with la new york miami and in boston and it just played with the market the market matters You know, I think but if you look at look at san antonio San antonio build a little mini dynasty down there and they weren't the biggest markets as a matter of fact it wasn't the smallest market so when you win

It makes a real big difference, but look how long New York man struggled I mean that that they brought in players that they thought could be Whatever I mean in the 90s. It was just better teams than them You know, then they go through a real dark period and like the Bucks they come at the right time to win an NBA championship I think in normal years when everybody healthy, maybe the Knicks are not NBA champions Yeah, you know, so I mean it

It just goes to goes to show you. Hey, well, I'm back back in studio. Welcome back. Your dreams were your ticket out. I was watching this piece on the Ohio players. Oh, man, those brothers, man. They can go. But then they did a song that I guess is like that Ohio that they did is. Yeah, they do. That's that's a big thing. So for Ohio, man. Yeah.

Yeah, I ended up going man, and I went and bought some music I watch on song you to see on song and then normally going buy some music I was That's what I do and you know, that's why they really want to do these type of things because all or You know God forbid, you know, you die and people go in all of a sudden they find your music. It's like

I think it's a it's nostalgia. I think now that they there are the sound quality is so much better. I know my buddy and I he argue about digital as opposed to analog. I'm telling you man when they go in and certainly they remastered. You hear some things. So yeah, I got I got my because I know I wouldn't break a head man is they got all type of new house.

you know, turn tables and man, stuff that I ain't never seen or heard before in my life. See the problem though with what Vino is, you gotta work to play it.

You know, it's your digital music. You just push a couple buttons. I gotta get up. I gotta find it. You know, it's some work. That sounds good, but you put a little bit more work in. You'll listen to Community Voice when we get back at the bottom of the hour. We'll be inside, be healthy, be you. Ms. Julia Means, Ms. Brenda Buchanan. We're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back. Welcome back, and it's the first Tuesday of the month. So we're joined in studio by Ms. Julia Means and Ms. Brenda Buchanan of Ascension, Wisconsin.

Good morning. Good morning. Welcome back. You know I've met so many people in the community that are saying that they get confused because they used to us being on Tuesday and then we're not here and then they forget that it's the first Tuesday but I want to say hello to everybody and it's nice to know we're missed. And they'll hear you on Tuesday afternoons and the breaks of Al Sharpton.

Oh, yeah, they do. Yeah, those little short segments. Short segments. I'd be confused. I know. I was going like, Julie, call me. Were you on the radio? Was I supposed to be there? No. What are you talking about? Yeah, they had a meeting that did tell you about it. Well, anyway, welcome back. Welcome back. Welcome back. It's like been a month. I know. A lot has been going on. Yeah. Yeah. A lot has been going on.

I didn't know before, you know, we have two primary subjects, but I just read that there is this outbreak of this bacteria on fruit. Yeah. Yeah. I fruit water. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people don't wash their fruit either. Right. You should wash your fruit. You don't. But you shouldn't wash your chicken.

Well, the difference with the chicken is you cook it at high temperatures. Right. And so they're concerned with washing the chicken that you're more likely to contaminate all the rest of the surfaces and not clean it up. Whereas if, yeah, if you're going to wash your chicken, then you should really make sure you, yeah, the countertops, everything, wipe them down. And so, but, you know, the high temperatures kill the bacteria, but, you know, people often just grab the fruit and eat it and they don't wash it.

Yeah, it's it's not it's I think it's closest to us is Michigan where they have a significant outbreak of this. I guess they have quite a bit a big outbreak there. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, also, uh, I was, uh, Byron, uh, had gone to, um, Cancun came back nice to him and, uh, but this is your opportunity to tell people about, uh, safety from the sun and

some of the things that they should do to prevent. Right. Well, we certainly had some hot weather in the last week. I was fortunate to not be here for most of it, although some of it I got a glimpse. I was in California where it was actually a lot nicer than it was here.

But, you know, we think because our skin is darker that we don't burn. Even if you don't physically feel a burn, that sun is still doing damage to your skin. And so you need to protect it when you're out there. Wide brim hats are great, you know, protecting the face. Sunscreen is great. Avoid between 10 and 2 is the hottest hours of the day where you're more at risk. So, especially if you're older, you're on certain types of medications.

You have certain health issues. You have children. You should really avoid those times of the day because you're at greater risk for heat stroke or heat exhaustion. But yeah, we got to take care of our skin because even though right now you may look good, but as you get older, you might start the effects of that skin damage, repeated skin damage might start showing up and melanoma is still the deadliest cancer that there is.

And so it should be, we need to protect ourselves from it. And my dermatologist, you know, told me that he sees more and more, you know, African Americans and because they wait till it's too late.

because they just don't think that it's affecting them. And it may look like a mole. It may, on your skins, on your nails, your toenails, your fingernails, it may be real black marks on there. You know, linear lines or things like that, that could be an indication. It doesn't mean that it is, but those things still need to be evaluated if you're starting to see a portion of your toenail or your fingernail get really black. What about the, and you were talking about heat stroke?

How important is it then for us to stay hydrated and make sure we keep our magnesium and sodium levels up? Look at you. You just said it all But you don't want to over hydrate it because that can cause some severe problems, too You know our seniors and and we really have to watch out. That's why they always say check on your seniors because they tend not to get

as hot as we do, they stay cooler. So they may be in a house with no air, no fan, and it's, you know, you walk in there and you're like, wow. That's why I used to want to wear a bikini in my mother's house. Be so hot in there, I feel like. Yeah, my mom, you know, when we sold the condo, I said, I'm gonna tell you, the appliance that got the least use,

was the air conditioner. Yeah. I mean, I came in, I mean, it'd be like, mom, there's 80 something up in here. She didn't feel it. Right. She'd be dressed and you'd be like sweating crazy. Sweating coming in there. That was like, ooh, okay. But it does affect them. Oh, yeah. It does. And and you have to go in and like, we gotta get something circulating around up in here. You can't be up in here like this. But they will. So they always say, check on your seniors.

I made a call to the ones I knew that were homebound and No, thank you. Okay. You got you got a fan on well And I don't like air conditioning because I know there were places giving out free air conditionings last week from elderly And people but a lot of people like my mother she I don't believe in that Now she grew up in the South right but she I don't believe in that

Well, I wish my mama would have believed in it. She had the air conditioner in her room. When you were crawling up with the door shut. Now, that's the one thing we all had in our bedrooms. But we'd be burning up, boy. I think you handle heat differently. I was telling someone, I lived on the east side.

1527 North Marshall for 10 years. And when we had that heat wave like last week, even though you close to the lake, it didn't make a difference. It was hot. And I couldn't, and he hadn't gone in whoever the owner was and put in 220. So he still had fuses. So if I put a little air conditioner in, it was just an efficiency. Yeah. And then I, you know, just so, just so ghetto.

before I got curtains. Hang up them sheets. Yeah, I had a nice little cover. That sun be coming in from the east. It was hot. And let me do this. And so I don't get canceled. And don't let me be hungover. It was just like that sun would just be like, oh man. So you got to really take care of yourself during the heat. Was it this summer or the summer before last when they had the

the fires in Canada, and the air quality was so bad. I mean, you could breathe. So this has been a relatively good summer in terms of air quality. But anyway, keep that in mind, folks, when you're out. I felt

I felt some kind of way for those folks who are out in DC, where it was literally 104 degrees and they're out in the mall. In the mall, there are no trees. The mall is, you know, there's trees on the sides, but you're out there and being that heat and you have somebody who just don't care. Well, and then you had all the deaths over in Europe from the heat. You know, they don't have air conditioning. New Jersey.

They lost 10 folks. Really? Were they seniors? Didn't say. A lot of psych drugs, a lot of people that take psych drugs, you know, we sweat and sweat is our air condition in our body and a lot of the drugs prevents that and so they don't sweat and they have a

Problem with overheating. Well the the summer of 95 I don't know if you remember that and we want them to take their drugs, right? We want that so hot and I think in Chicago They lost close close to a thousand people because of the heat and I remember here was I we just got married in April so it was in July around my birthday

We moved into the Astor Hotel for three days because we had no air conditioning. Some people do that. Some people can afford to do that and they do that because it's relatively inexpensive. Yeah, everybody can and Astor is still do that. I don't know because you know we used to send our our patients badly to the Astor.

it was reasonable. People came from out of town to have heart surgery here. I liked it because it was kind of like a throwback, you know, like it wasn't like the modern hotels. But yeah, we were there for three days. Yeah, because they end up doing the store in the Bastille. They end up doing it at midnight because it was so hot during the day that they just couldn't do it. I mean, I can't ever remember being that hot. Maybe it was when I was a kid. Like I said, you deal with it.

differently. And if you're not sweating, even if you're not on psych drugs, if you find that you're hot and you're not sweating, you probably need to go to the emergency room because you're probably on the verge of heat stroke and pretty close to it. Once you start sweat, stop sweating, your body's gonna overheat even quicker. And so you're getting severely dehydrated. What about our diets?

During the summertime should we eat a little bit differently? Mm-hmm All of our fresh produce is great because that provides us with Fluid to water to those fruits and veggies are not just you know, we had awesome Veggies at the food pantries last week. We had Cherry tomatoes cucumbers No, we didn't have corn yet. Not yet corn's not yet potatoes we had

peppers, green peppers, onions, a lot of stuff. A lot of good stuff you can make good meals out of. All right. So we just wanted to do that as we talk about it a lot during the summer. Certainly take care of yourself. But that hotel thing is real. Some people need to go to it. Oh, when we had when we had the power outlet a couple of summers ago,

And, you know, Carmen McGeeher, her mother lived next door to us. And so her son was in town from New York. He moved her downtown, you know, because it was had that had that power stayed out another day. Somebody at twenty eight fifteen was going to jail. So let me tell you he.

And when you whoo, he can bring out some talk about low patients. Oh, yes, the heat could be whoo Yeah, well, we always see crime violent crime increases during heat domestic I mean this is violence I mean the murderers something man. I then I feel kind of guilty because I know that there are people who are living without air conditioning and

And probably the last two or three years have been running the air conditioner more than We ever have now Rhonda wants it cold in the house. I don't I don't but I don't want it hot either So maybe maybe I'm just maybe it's an age thing Let's do this real quickly and then what I'll do is we'll go to our commercial break And then we'll come back and

Talk about those subjects that I need to do anything else. High blood pressure, be careful. Oh, a cold beer on a hot day in the sun. No, no, no, no, no, no. Well, definitely dehydrate you more than hydrate you. You feel it. You feel it. So and I don't know if people understand sometimes that idea of what heat and alcohol can do. Alcohol triggers your kidneys to release fluid.

And so then you're that's why when you have alcohol you urinate a lot Because that's what your kidneys are told to do by the alcohol and so it triggers a it does it triggers a chemical that causes you to release urine and so that's why you're running to the restroom so You get more dehydrated than hydrated May taste going that good going down, but definitely is not sure it is they were saying that

On real really hot days people don't want to eat ice cream, which I thought maybe was just too hot to go I don't know or the dairy you know some people like I don't want ice cream when it's real hot I'd like a icy maybe or something like that, but not I see people when the weather is relatively cool and they're eating ice cream I'm not a big fan of ice cream, but Let's just kind of okay

Custard is higher fat. It's very creamy, but it's a higher fat content the way that it's made Yeah, I mean people come from when I visit here. They want custard Other people I had something down south is awful called ice milk. It is awful. Oh, yeah, I remember ice milk. Yeah and coming from We had custard I mean it was night and day

I can't tell my aunt. Can you buy like real ice cream? And I don't know why no one from here has went down and started a custard thing in a in the south. Yeah, because they like our custard. Oh man, but it's definitely a Midwest thing. We did for our young people for their Children and Youth Sunday. They had a Sunday bar. So they were putting together like banana splits and

and watching the kids how they're things they like and they don't like. I used to love picking whistle. And they used to do the ballpark special. And I'd do everything on it but the nuts. Oh man, because you know the nuts reminded me of Christmas. You know, we get those walnuts. Oh man, I could pecans. To this day, I still don't best with a man because if nothing else my mama go ahead at.

And then some peppermint candy is just oh, yeah every everybody's auntie or grandma has some peppermint candy in a ball Oh, man, so it was just like to this day, but like like my mother loved butter pecan ice cream. I do too. Really? Okay Well, you're listening to community voice from inside be healthy be you miss Julia means miss Brenda Buchanan Everybody I spoke to you brothers already didn't

All right. All right. We're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back The 860 a.m. and 106.5 ffm All right, welcome back So let's talk about the ascension st. Ben's mobile health clinic. Oh It's exciting Brenda

and Nancy are on the call Nancy. Yeah, she's great. We're saying she should have been here with us today. Nancy, if you're listening, we're going to be calling you. But yeah, yeah, it's very exciting. So we have this in partnership with

My outreach they have the bus and so we will be using that two days a week It'll be a combination of Nancy and I are the nurses but support team is from outreach and we will be at Ebenezer on Thursdays from 10 to 4 and over at Calvary from

same hours but on Tuesdays and so we just started a couple weeks ago and so we're really excited to be doing this. What can people expect? Well, have you ever heard of St. Ben's Clinic? Yeah. Okay, so

This is a, like really, it's with Ascension St. Ben's Clinic and Outreach. So St. Ben's Clinic is over off of State Street, and it caters to, it used to cater to the homeless, but now it sees everybody, insurance and non-insurance. But it's a clinic that can walk in.

do primary care, of course specialty care, we have to send out because we don't have that. And so the bus will be similar to that. So walk-ins, appointments, once you're established appointments for the most part, the patients that we've had have been walk-ins at this point, chronic diseases like high blood pressure, diabetes. Sometimes we can help you find a medical home if that's what you need, if you need more comprehensive care. But it's just kind of a walk-in clinic.

you come and get your needs met. We don't see children and we don't see pregnant women, but we can certainly help you find someone that can provide those services for you. What about, would you be able to do like blood testing there or do you have to refer that someplace? Right now, as we're starting up, we would be sending our blood work over to outreach to be done. In the future, if we're finding that we have a lot of people that we have to draw blood on, then we'll look at doing it on the bus. But right now, we refer out.

And Nancy is a nurse practitioner, so she can prescribe, she can prescribe, diagnose and prescribe and give you a script and take care of you as well as a physician could. So you definitely are being seen by an advanced practice nurse practitioner that can deal with whatever you have.

Her and Brenda are on the bus and then you come by Ebenezer. I will show you hospitality can get you some food and Yeah, because we are there on the same days that the food pantry is there Come on down you can exercise with us in the morning and we usually have lunch and learns and the food pantry but Ebenezer always shows hospitality and we're there and Calvary's gonna do it too so

We did Calvary because it's in the 5306 zip code and Ebeneezer's in the 53212 zip codes and those zip codes are like the highest in hypertension and a lot of care. We know that primary care helps prevent illnesses from blowing up. You know, you need to go while

it can be treated versus when you gotta rush. If you get admitted into ICU from an ER visit, you bypassed a lot of warning signs. So we wanna make sure that you know your warning signs and that's what having a primary care physician can do. How much of it is though you think it's just gonna pass?

It's just I think so but some of these are pretty long-term warning signs And people just ignore it and sometimes it's not just yeah thinking it's past. Oh, I'm just getting old

It's a part of that. You know, I'm just getting old. This is how you feel when you get old. Also people, well, high blood pressure, it's not a big deal. Everybody in my family has it. It's still a big deal. It still needs to be treated because it can lead to kidney failure, can lead to heart attacks, congestive heart failure, all of these different things. But if you can catch it and treat it, then it doesn't lead to those things. But if it doesn't, then your heart enlarges, you get congestive heart failure. That's a whole different...

level of care that you need them. So our goal is to prevent. And we are in neighborhoods where we hope people, if they don't have a primary or they feel more comfortable because it's in their neighborhood, that they would come. We don't want people sitting around not going to the doctor because of fear or lack of transportation.

you know, we want to be where people are so that they can hopefully come get the services that they need. And we're hoping that people that may feel a little insecure or not comfortable with the healthcare that they know us from the radio and from seeing us that they will feel comfortable knowing that Nancy and Brenda will take care of them and

And that we're there to support them this is right where you live, you know, and if not That that'll alleviate transportation What about and I said you don't do children, right? But what about like kids who might need? Physicles, you know, there's no wrong with they just need physical to do football football is starting up now So they wouldn't be able to yeah, we won't be doing those

Because you have adult medicine, then you have pediatric medicine. So you don't want to. And depending on the types of patients you care for, there's competencies that you have to maintain that I know what I'm doing with a pediatric patient. Because they are different. Because the body's still developing. Their numbers are different than ours.

What about people coming in? Are they able to receive vaccinations for COVID? Yeah, we're we don't know what all vaccinations we'll have. We'll certainly have flu, most likely COVID. You know, again, right now we're just starting up and so we don't have a huge patient load right now. But at the very least, we'll be doing flu shots and probably COVID.

even now, how important is it for people to get flu shots? I know people think summertime, they don't think it's flu season. Yeah, I mean, there's still, there's always flu around, but of course in the winter months, it becomes worse. So we really like September, October is really ideal time to get your flu shot. But we'll start earlier than that, more than likely, because the colder it gets, the more or less likely people already get out.

And about so we'll start those I'm not sure probably in September is my guess it also depends on when flu vaccine gets in so That kind of sets our our timetable, but we will be doing those things on the bus The

Let's talk a little bit about the importance of primary care physicians. Why is that so important? They're like your gatekeeper. They know you. They have a whole list of things that you should have done.

Like what's your cholesterol? We always talk about you should know your numbers. It shouldn't be a surprise if you have high cholesterol. Your primary should have told you that a while ago, start treating you for it. Your blood pressure should be maintained and treated. They know your age and what test and procedures that you need to have done.

according to your age. And so they're the gatekeeper. If they see things getting worse, they can call in specialists and take care of you from head to toe. And then I don't know how difficult it is. If you can, certainly you want to be able to get or have access to health insurance.

Yeah, and that's another, if you come on the bus, we do have a PSR there who's a person that will get that information and get you set up with somebody to see what kind of insurance you might be eligible for. Whether it's Medicaid, there are people that are walking around with Medicaid that don't even know they have it. And so she can check those things and also get you set up so that with a specialist at outreach that will help you.

We talk a lot about preventative care. One, why is preventative care so important? And two, what are some of the things we can do in terms of preventative care? Well, preventative care is just that. The goal is to prevent.

You know the disease or whatever so for example mammograms early detection of breast cancer before it can be felt And so then you're you know You're much like much better to have a much more likely to have a better outcome the sooner that it can be caught

you know, your colonoscopy is going in, removing polyps before they turn cancerous, if they're pre-cancerous, getting rid of those. So those are just some of your preventative things, your lab work. Again, your doctor should do a full profile every year just to look and say what your kidneys are looking at, like what your liver is looking at, what your red blood cells, your white blood cells, what are all those things looking like? Are there trends from last year? Are we seeing things change or are they pretty much staying the same? The goal is to keep you on a

state of health. And so that preventative medicine, hopefully keeps you from going further into an unwell state or to prevent that from happening altogether. So when you go to the ER for whatever incident or accident that may have happened, they're going to say you need to follow up with your primary care physician because they're only going to do what's necessary to

get over this incident or accident that you're dealing with, and then they're going to pass you off to your primary care. What about women who would see gynecologist, men who would see urologist? Should they be your primary care? No, they can't be. And even if they do all of it, like I had a friend, for example, who, and we see this with a lot of women who have had a OBGYN,

realizing that that's not their primary doctor, that they need a primary. And so she talked to her OBGYN into doing some labs for, and there were some abnormalities. And so she's like, well, I can't help you with those. I did the labs, but now we got to find you a primary doctor to deal with those. So they look at those specific body systems. They don't look at your overall health. And even if they did blood work or something related to the condition that they're treating you for, if it's abnormal, they're still going to say you need to have a primary.

care doctor because they need to follow up with those things. They're not going to treat your hypertension. They're not going to treat your diabetes, your high cholesterol. Those are all things your primary is going to do. You know, I, you guys help me with this one. We always think about, we talk about Marcus Welby, right? That's my doctor. Why is it though, when I'm admitted to the hospital, that then

It's not my primary physician. It is the hospital. Why is that? I found that fascinating. I just want to say I worked in intensive care back in the day before they had hospitalists.

And so we would have to call the primary. This patient is in intensive care and things are critical, things are going on. I'm calling this doctor that I'm waking up at midnight and they're not happy about it. And it's really above him. He might know the basic, but it's not really, he's unable to do it. Your primary care physician takes care of you.

and when you're in a well state. The hospitalist, this is amazing. They are amazing. That's what they do. And they're there 24 hours a day.

when I call and say, hey, I got this patient, they're going to be there right there to be able to evaluate that patient. Not just take my assessment, but their own assessment. Do orders right there, run codes, do whatever needs to be done. I don't know who thought that up, but.

The hospitalists are awesome to have. I can't tell you, Julie and I used to both be ad reps. And so those are kind of the administrator in the hospital on weekends nights when there's no other management around. And patients coming into the ER, not trying to find a doctor to admit them. The hospitalists, you call them, they can.

you know, go to the ER, look at that patient and admit that patient to the hospital. It's just so much cleaner. And then they see them, you know, they might be on for the next two or three days. You know, it's just, you get much better care that way. And I know people want to see their regular physician, but you will once you're discharged, then you're not. And I do want to make

emphasis that some doctors are family practice physicians where they can take care of you from the womb to the tomb. They can take care of the children. They can take care of the pregnant mom. They do, they do it all. And that's a family practice physician. So they're a little different. And then there's like my doctor's an internal medicine doctor, which really is only going to be adults.

You know, I think maybe the myth is that, you know, when you think of a doctor, doctor can do everything, right? I mean, but you begin to talk about the specialists like I was trying to get into the city orthopedic. It's some kind of way he sent me to a doctor who deals with nerves. I don't know what that's called. A neurologist. Yeah. And they were going, no, you need to see an orthopedic. Then I guess if there's something then they would make it. And there are orthos that specialize in spine.

You know, that's all they do. So even, yeah, now the specialists have specialists. Like my knee doctor and my shoulder doctor, they're both orthopedic doctors, but they're, they're different doctors. They one specializes in shoulders and one knees. And so, but there are orthopedic doctors that just specialize in spine. I have one. I haven't had to see him in a long time, but he just specializes in spine. And, you know, cause my husband has had a lot of back.

problems and Neural and ortho's that do spine they they they cross over a lot Yeah, so I can understand why they would send you to one You need to try to get me in based on the symptoms you were having right and but no I just you know I think that that was always my myth that if you're a doctor, you know

Everything about medicine and I guess like in the real world. It's like if you're a lawyer You could be a tax lawyer. You could be a criminal lawyer, right? I mean, yeah, you wouldn't want a tax lawyer Representing representing you and yeah on a criminal charge. So yeah, I believe very much so in specialists You don't want a general doctor treating your cancer

You want an oncologist and if you're a woman you might in it's in it's your female reproductive organs and you'd want an oncologist that specializes in gynecological cancers, so Yeah, the more they can specialize the more expert they are and the more they know and I would say dr. Welby Welby was a primary care physician

It's like family doctor, right? Yeah. And that's when doctors, no, I understand now there's still where, I know certainly for the disabled and for the elderly, they can send out a PA. Now they actually do home visits where they actually go in and see folks. And there's practitioners. Yeah. Nancy used to do home visits too. Yeah. Where you can actually go in and then of course, televisits. That's a new thing. Yeah. Yeah.

Mm-hmm. Well, I don't want you to touch me though. I want you cuz I mean, it's okay for like a follow-up I think or something simple like, you know, you just got out of hospital and the doctor just wants to touch base with you That might be appropriate. Now if you got a wound or something serious, they're gonna want to see you in person But you know, sometimes they're appropriate, but yeah for most things hypertension, how do you evaluate that? You know, I want to see a person diabetes

You know those sorts of things a cold maybe just or you know, but even a earache They want to look in your ear. You can't do that. You know through telemedicine How do you and I don't know how this is impact or I don't know if you all begin to have these conversations around AI and how AI is impacting medicine Yeah, I mean we

I mean, other than the basic stuff, like, you know, your presentations and all that, but yeah, AI, getting into diagnosing and all that. I don't know a lot about it. I know we're not using it right now, but it definitely is the future. Not saying in health care altogether, but I'm sure in health care in general, they're going to find a way to incorporate some of that across the board.

I mean, they're using it to a certain extent now or you can go, I mean, the healthcare system, maybe not, but you can go on your phone, put in all your symptoms and it's going to pop up and tell you what might be wrong with you.

Yeah, you gotta watch that dope. Oh, no, I agree. Well, yeah, you see that all the time. Yes, you are. But you know, there's something to be said for touch, feel, smell. All those things are part of your assessment. You know, people always ask you, like, you know, which is always a difficult question. What's your pain level from one to 10? I think 10.

If I'm at 10, yeah, I think I would. So, you know, just being able to do that and because a lot of it really is what the patient is communicating to the physician, right? Sure. There's symptoms and then there's signs. Symptoms are those things that I'm telling you that I have.

and then the doctor can do his assessment and look at what are the findings that he's seeing in your physical assessment. But I can't tell you your symptom isn't your symptom, because it may not be able to be measured by me. It's what you're telling me that you have going on. But I think that that was always the issue in terms of insurance companies and back aches, right? And people in their backs, and you could go in and you might not be able to see anything structurally wrong, but people still complain about pain, right?

That pain assessment helped a lot with a lot of things. And the pictures, I think, helps a lot. Because when they go and they ask me, I have to look at it every time, like, am I here between here and there? And I have to think about it. Now, I know I have a high pain threshold. Even my therapists always tell me that most people would be jumping off the table. And that's probably because of chronic pain long term. But that picture,

If you say you're at a five based on that, you are at a five. And they have to believe what you say. Because that's how you feel. Carla, welcome to the program. Good morning. Good morning. It was such a pleasure to hear the ladies this morning. It was such a smile on my face. You sound so much better when you at the station.

at the station this morning, but I have two questions. First, going back to the hospital, I remember when the doctors, your regular doctor, like when I had Dr. Robinson years back, if he didn't practice at a third hospital, he could come in to treat me, but otherwise he could come in to see me, like at St. Joe's. He was able to come into St. Joe's. You all remember that?

when they would do rounds, when the doctors would do rounds, even if you were at a different hospital, they couldn't treat you, but they'd come see you. Yeah, privileges. Yeah, that's privileges, privileges. And that's a long process to get privileges. It's not like you can call up today and say, oh, I want it, it can take months to do privileges. No.

The hospitals are very healthcare system-wide. If you go to Ascension, you're going to see Ascension. You go to Aurora, you're going to see Aurora. Freyder, you're going to see Freyder. That's because of insurance and building. That's because of insurance and stuff. But ER, you can go to any one. You go to the nearest one, depending on what the diagnosis is, but for your...

incident is, but if you can, it's best to go to the one that your healthcare system, where you go to is at. Right. And also, I was going back to the cholesterol, anything like it's not tolerable, like if you're not able to tolerate it, you know, from the side effect. Of some of the drugs you mean? Yeah, from the

the cholesterol treatment. The medication? The cholesterol medication? The medication, right. What do a person do at that point? I have that crystal. You know, there are a lot of new medications that they have available.

that can help those that were sensitive to the standards. A lot of people had some issues with statins. And even one statin, you might take another statin and might not have those symptoms. But there are other cholesterol lowering drugs now that are available that people tolerate really well. So if you don't work with one class, you talk to your doctor about something different.

but you don't want to have it untreated because then that can lead to strokes and heart attacks and things like that. So you want it to be treated. So there are some that's not steady? Yes. Okay. Okay. Thank you so much. And like I said, I'm so happy to hear y'all. Even when I hear that recording, I can listen to it a thousand times. Oh. Well, you stay healthy now because you know, don't give up.

Oh, no. Okay. Final drug that works for you. Absolutely. I'm, you know, not to say I'm headed here now. All right. Okay. Thank you all so much. Thank you. Bye bye. All right. You're listening to Community Voice. We're inside the Healthy BU. Ms. Julia Meads, Ms. Brenda Buchanan of the Center in Wisconsin. We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back.

As I was said that was my question. How did you all come up with the title be healthy be you? Because you said to her be healthy and I'm going so be you well Nicole came up with that I'm sure Nicole and Mary or maybe or just Nicole I don't know probably Nicole because when we first started Mary wasn't actually running the station yet, so Nicole came up with that I Just was curious. I thought you came up with it

You couldn't have thought that. Because I didn't even know we were doing it until I heard the ad. So you couldn't have been, I came up with it. We actually have a website. Hi, this is Julia Means. You can join me.

What? Who is these people coming to my program? Tell me. Oh, that's terrible, Keith. We didn't know. Isn't that the only time? That's the only time this happened. No wonder he was so who? No, he was. You were always kind to us. No, I mean, I didn't, you know, I, I, I, I just heard the, and literally that is, I'm not making that up. That's a true story. Really? That's terrible.

Yeah, that's how things were communicated. And trust me, I've had some other situations where, you know, such and such as join your program. Oh, okay. It's like, okay, but now I just wonder where it came from. I mean, you know, be healthy, be you. I'll email Nicole. I know she's listening. Well, I don't know. I think she's on vacation this week. So enjoying herself, hopefully. But you know, you are going to be you.

Some people, they just don't be themselves, no matter what we say. So we want you to be you, but on top of that, we want you to be healthy and be you. See, that's how that came about. I just always wondered how Genesis of things are important to me. Always do. My brother was telling me when I was, I was the anniversary speaker at

Galilee Man you did a whole lot of research like going back and I listed every pastor that was there. I mean you For me, I'm always background becomes Real important as a matter of fact that was the the title of the message that you know

The backstory on galley like we can talk about the years But the years don't tell the whole story and everybody has a backstory like how do you how do you get to a place yesterday? I was interviewing mr. Wanda Streeter and she was just lamenting about How she didn't always want to tell her story because it was one of those What might have been a very negative for some folks kind of story, but then she said I started telling the story because

That's how I became who I am. So all those things as part of our story, our life journey, our health issues. My mother, she saw me and my mother would always say this, you know, for someone who was healthy, because when I had the stroke, my mother was just like, I never really spent time in the hospital. I mean, I was a baby, you know, I've been very fortunate.

that not to say that I'm the healthiest person on the planet, but I'm just saying that I didn't have to deal with certain things. So where others might have been usually seeing the doctor for whatever reason. So whenever she would see me get sick, she's like, oh, what's going on? He's sick. He's sick. And so, I mean, I don't know. Did you have a primary care physician? Yes.

Did you go visit them? No. Okay. No, there you go. No, I You know and that's what I'm saying. We ignore And we because you had great insurance. Oh Well, and I think we're getting that out after I had the stroke. Yeah Well, and I hopefully we're getting better especially with men Knowing that you should still go get

annual physical whereas before you know men kind of went to the doctor when they were sick and barely when they were sick they had to be really sick to go whereas us women we had to go every year you know during childbearing years and so we got used to it being in the habit of going to the doctor whereas men never had that once you were 18 off to college you were whatever you just didn't go to the doctor but hopefully now

men are being more educated on the importance of going. Usually men would go with the injuries. Not necessarily sickness would be injuries. I got hurt at work because we're more likely to be doing physical work like your husband probably dealing with back issues. Probably have a lot to do with him working and the kind of work that he was doing. Or men in their...

late teens 20s almost 30s usually it sports right it's something you do in terms of activity and you go out and so then you're not going to the doctor for me though I spent a lot of time with the dermatologist and so that was kind of like but even then I wait until I can get a sister something like that that I had to go in I I had a

had a cyst like right here still got scar tissue and She used a laser To remove the cyst which was kind of cutting edge at that point. Yeah in terms of medicine. So I yeah, I We just and especially if you if you came up in a certain era when it came to Sports, you know, you just tough it out

That's why they say men who are married live longer. It was your wife. Because the wife is going to stay on you and you need to go. Either your mother, your wife, your sister, some woman is going to get you to the doctor because men are in great denial. Yes. Well, you know, and that's kind of, I think that was the genesis of Tom Joyner. Take a loved one.

to the doctor where, you know, I think it was his daughters. That took him? Yeah, well, he still ended up having a stroke though. Yeah. Um, yeah, he sent bad had a stroke. Sinbad had a bad one, but he came back. Jamie Fox had a stroke. He did too. He came back. He was bad shape. Charlie Wilson had a stroke. You know, medicine has

come a long way, even a stroke. If you get to the hospital on time, they have to get you there to be able to make sure it's not a bleed versus a clot. Because if it's not a bleed, but a clot, then they can give you the clot bursting medication. And they won't if it's a bleed, because it'll make you bleed more.

So they have to get you there. We had, like they call a code for when we would get a code call that a potential stroke was coming in. So that we had a specific time that we had to find out what was going on and we knew how to treat it. And that has prevented a lot of long lasting paralyzation.

Yeah, and we just it was just announced at church Sunday. We had two women there who had had strokes Friend of mine. It was it was really fortunate that She actually had a stroke at church So she was around people and they could get to her right away a lot of times people are having strokes that by themselves that that that is true I've

encountered that with people having strokes right in the sanctuary and we we had to come up with a whole stroke plan you know who's going to call 911 because you got everybody running around and you want to you want to

petition off the patient, they should have privacy. People should not see what you're going through. Here's the other piece of it. Then you always have these super saints who want to come over and pray. Get out. We need to do some medical attention. Pray over there. Pray over here. We want you to pray. We want you to pray over there. You don't sit up here thinking that you can lay hands. You're going to kill somebody. No, really. I mean, look, sometimes, hey, I was saying, I know I got super deep Christians out there. Sometimes your superstition will get you in trouble.

Now, if we do everything medically, okay. All right, and pray that we do the right thing. But we don't need you over the person, pray in, and come on, man. I got this, Dr. Jean needs you. Yeah, I'm like, oh, okay, my mama said this about Betty here. My mama said, well, if he can help people, how come he ain't going to the hospitals? And I fell back on that, like, yeah, maybe because he can't. Prayer helps.

it does but I'm just and I don't mind people praying especially y'all y'all pray for me but we still want the medical doctors there but he did give man the intelligence to be able to provide this body that is deteriorating daily the knowledge to be able to care for you

You still, you still can, you know, if I'm being treated, urgently, I'd send up the prayers. And I'm not saying don't pray. That's not what I'm saying. I just say we don't need you in this gaggle right now because we're trying to stabilize this person. We've got a code going on and you're trying to get, yeah, step back. Most people know that. Most people.

Most people do know that. And if they don't, you need to train them to know that. Because wherever you are, your prayers are going to go up. You ain't got to touch them right now. But if mother... The Bible says they're any sick among you. Call in. Call them in. Yeah, call them in. And then go see your doctor. Yes, yes. Now, if you're sick among us and you haven't gone to see your doctor... Hey, nothing I could do. But sometimes...

If you're going through something right now at that particular time and somebody that you know, that you figure is, they might won't, wherever it keeps to come touch them. They might not won't. Would your boy say, your boy used to say all the time, if you passed, I ain't gonna join your church. Like I said, if I was a pastor, I would want you to join my church.

Yes, so certain people might that that touch that you give them might give them the courage Oh strength. Okay, that you know, they know that you with them that I didn't go to medical school you didn't but I'm telling you touch means a lot it does and and if I'm you know Going through why they working on me you come over and touch me that could mean so much to that person

okay and they said hearing is the last thing that you hear that you know that that goes yeah you're still so you're saying mother we're praying for you and that they i'm not and mother we call 911 and they're on their way but or as Kennedy said we call 911

That's a special, that's a special one. You think you need that? And I don't even know it. And I will tell you all, Julia Meese has one of the best bedside bedders. But when Julia Meese goes,

Because I see that with this one, with this, and I said, I'm gonna go, I had a doctor, but that blood pressure is high. And then Julie was going, oh, baby, it's just a little high. No, but would Julie look at you and go like? I said, oh, hope it's gone, but it's happened. I got another nurse at the church that I used to go to. And she'll go, move out the way, Julie.

I got this. You're dying. I'm going to put this to you. You're dying. Oh, my God. It was just like when I was talking about Commissioner Berrios and I had my, my bumper soil made that they call 911. I was sitting there and she says, Keith.

Is there anything I can do to stop looking to be like I'm dying? Is she scaring me right now? Is it dead man? You know, you got to keep him calm. Oh, one time I had gotten so sick, I had a lung absence and it burst. So I got these toxins in my system. So I was in bad shape, but you know, I got to show up for work. And I walked in and my buddy, Pastor Russell Yancey, looked at me and he go, damn.

You're like, uh-oh. So when people come in and they got that look on their face, like, I was doing OK until you all did. And oh lord, I think sometimes, you know.

Keep them calm. Keep them calm. Yes. And let them know that that bedside manner is important prayer. It's on the way. It's on the way. And so is so is the ambulance. Yeah. So and the code team. Well, the joke somebody was saying, don't call an ambulance. It's too high. Call me again. Hey, you know what? That's funny because we hear that or I'm just going to drive on. No.

911 is your best bet at having a better outcome. My roommate, Ryan Buxton, has some kind of medical. He got on the bus with his dog. Listen, Mr. Buxton, next time when you call 911, why are you on the bus? He got on the bus. Yeah, they have machines and medications that they can start.

In the ambulance, right? And then the ER is waiting and ready for you if you're having a stroke that Neurologist is waiting and ready for you. So let me And I did it before I'm gonna do it again. Let me shout out bill ambulance Man, I they're not community. Yeah, but the but that level of care I mean over and beyond what they're doing in terms of your vitals, but even how they're told

How reassuring it is you need that right because you do if you're freaked out you don't need the people caring for you freaking out or Not paying you enough. Yes, right You need somebody that you can tell that they genuinely care about you. Yeah, because they transported my mom and the way I mean both taken her to and from I was just I was just real impressed I was like, okay, you need that and that's what I'm saying Reverend Keith they may need you to

lay hands on them and just say, we got you. We're praying for you. And, and, and not wrong with that, but you'll need the whole church doesn't say you have to designate certain people and you should do that before it happens.

And we have a designated cold team. We know who going to open up the door, who's going to bring in the paramedics. And we have all that set up because people get in a frantic and you don't know who's doing what. I don't know what it was about this preacher. And I guess he wanted to show, because we have a lot of influences on our faith. And some people are

really literal when they read certain passages of scripture and So he wanted to show the power of prayer for healing So he went to visit one of his parishioners who was sharing a room and so he came in and she said pass to pray for me and so He he prayed for Two days later she died she called them

Say they were she said pastor the woman in the other bed went home. I'm still here Should have specified it specified bed a And because I'm a black preacher, you know when they tell the story

They said Jesus had to be specific. Only a black preacher.

Come back out here. So I don't want to be the one that I pray for when they get worse. I just don't want that. I don't want that. My legacy. Like, don't call him. Don't call him. Don't call him. But I think you're right in terms of, I think I emphasize in this space the importance, though, of the material.

This is not the negate the spiritual, right? But I'm but it starts with material. I mean, that's the world we live in and then We go from there. I got very upset with certain religious folks who Were very against the shutdown initially part of COVID But what was amazing was the number of religious folks who were dying first right

down in Albany, I think Albany, Georgia was something like eight or nine Baptist pastors that died in Michigan. It almost wiped out the entire leadership, right? And that's the other thing that I think that that's why it's important. I'm glad that back to the mobile clinic, you're going to churches because in some ways we might be contributing to some of the bad health and it's usually around the food.

right and our diets and You know because people quit drinking they quit smoking, you know, but then they picked up eating, right? And then can be equally as bad, right? So now you pick up all the ancillary kind of things that happens with it And so I think the importance of talking about that the importance of I know we used to regularly at Metropolitan sister event moral who's a

registered nurse, she would do regular blood pressure screening, you know, like after church, you know, like people come out and get, so it's things like that where we can begin to talk about this whole holistic ministry where we talk about wellness, right? We're not even talking about areas where, you know, counseling, you know, we, you know, like it's important that people talk to someone, especially someone that can help them work through.

You know some of the issues Part of my last message on peace was James talks about you know Why do you quarrel among yourselves? Is it something inside of you? That's causing you to have conflict with others And I think that part of that healing is not only physically where we are But we carry a lot of trauma. Yes, we do we we put it there and we don't always

We're not always able to understand that maybe what's driving this is some type of traumatic experience that I had. Obviously, you know, break up in relationships, all these things and how we handle it, but a lot of times we just bury it.

Yes, and it will surface in one way or another. There's triggers that'll happen, so I think to be able to have those kind of conversations doesn't make you any less spiritual. It doesn't make God any less God. It's just saying that. And there's spiritual counseling, and there's a lot of counseling that's very important that you can't get from a therapist, you know, that spiritual counseling, and then there's counseling from a psychotherapist or, you know,

Together they're wonderful, but they don't negate each other and they don't replace each other one is not better than the other they're just different and Many of actually we all need some spiritual counseling every single person here, but some of us need the other counseling too. So the two of them together is really There are therapists and but there's some people that don't need therapy

And I was trying to figure out, do I need therapy? I mean, is it important? Well, I mean, I think for some things, if things are interfering in your daily life, you know, you're not able to function the way that you want to. You're not enjoying any things. You have extremes, anxiety, depression. You're not able to maintain healthy relationships. All those sorts of things and many more might make you think that maybe you should talk to somebody and see.

could be one session, and some people aren't therapy forever. Some go once a month, some go once a week. But there are certain things that, if it is interfering, if things are interfering in your happiness, your daily life, that you might...

Need to step back and say do I need to speak to someone because we can we can normalize our pathology Oh, absolutely Well, and a lot of times we don't even understand what it is and not all of those things are like for example anxiety depression those can be functions of your thyroid too that you know so they those need to be checked you need to rule out physical reasons for some of this stuff too so but you know therapy is not

Evil it is not bad. Some of us need therapy needs somebody to talk to Sometimes it's just having somebody to talk to that listens and doesn't try to fix Or that you know that that conversations not going anywhere else. Well, I think that that was one of the things behind confession That you had someone there first of all who could not share Which you and so then you could be as open and as honest

as you as you as you needed to be uh and I think that's tough because it's hard going to other people and um not feeling judgment uh condemnation or they're gonna go share it with somebody else because sometimes you know and our black our black pastors are doing a lot of counseling a lot and um I might suggest though that if they are doing it they be trained

Many of them have been. Many of them have not. I know Dr. I mean, yeah, Tipton. Dr. Tipton and his wife, they've done a lot of training with Kojic pastors. And then there's Dr. Taylor. There's a lot of doctors that are now realizing how much pastors are. So that's part of it is to provide guidance and support.

you know to the sheep and here's the thing I said to you all the time that the the thing that Jesus didn't ask and I know in terms of epidemiology we have to ask the question what did you do but Jesus never in effect do what we do what you do you know because that's coming from already

this whole perspective that I did something wrong, where in effect, I might not have done anything wrong. And even if I did do something wrong, it happens. All right. We did something wrong. Oh, I thought he was doing it. We did something wrong. Well, we're being chastised. I'm not sure what's going on. My bad.

Parkette. Thank you, sir. Hey, man. Apostle. Thank you. Welcome back. Thank you. Welcome back. See, there just isn't enough time. We're just running out of time. Ms. Julia means welcome back. Thank you. Ms. Brenda Buchanan, welcome back. Hey, Keith. Yep. Do that stare again. That stare you did. That's what Julia did. Oh. The Julia stare.

I don't know if you made final arrangements. If you made peace with your God. So let me thank everybody for being part of the program. Let me thank all the listeners. I appreciate you. You're being back in studio. Hey, y'all, the good Lord willing Creek. Don't rise. Hope to talk to everybody tomorrow. And as always, go from this place in peace.