Unpacking America’s Racial and Legal Tensions: A Deep Dive

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and welcome to Community Voice. I'm your host, Keith Parris. I want to thank everybody for joining us this morning. Good morning, Clark Kent. Who you with? Hey, man, trying to be down with the people. Apostle. There's some chairman of the board. God bless you. Junior Prey Lake. Right. Deacon and training, God bless you. Deacon and training. Oh, man. What's happening, y'all?

How you doing? Man, listen, Doc. Woo-wee. Been the morning. I mean, from it being hot out to, you know, Michelle tearing the whole new re-in on people on social media, it's been a hell of a morning, Jack. Yeah, that brother.

As you all know, I don't usually get into personalities. You know, certainly on a local level, I don't call names, but but she she was on point. You know, I mean, yeah, I mean, I want that you don't do is mess with a person who has the microphone. And I think it's also one of those things where, OK, we got it, man, you do what you do.

you come down, you know, the thing that people don't always understand in a, in, I'm talking about for elected officials is that there are a lot of different influences and concerns that they have. And, and, you know, so, I mean, and we can be real hard on our electors. Now, sometimes some of our electors were not hard enough on, but I know with this particular individual man, I mean, he just goes after everybody and he wants to be heard.

but it was something that, you know, Michelle was saying to one of our callers, like, we got that, but sometimes it's how you're doing what you're doing. It's not that you're not necessarily right, but it's your tone. It's just so crazy. And like I told him Sunday in church, you know, don't sin talking about the sin. You know, I mean, you know, that, that, that is, you know, it's kind of weird, but no, I mean, she, she, she, she was on point. And, you know,

It's it's it's the world that we live in bros. It's the world that we live in. Yeah, so Anyway, the phone lines open for one four four four four five two five zero four one four four four four five two five zero You know, what's really crazy is that? You know Saturday will mark 250 years of this country

Who you with? Because everybody else with you ain't free. Yeah, I mean, it's complicated. I started watching this piece that they're doing. I know people have been watching this land that CNN is doing. Some days it's just more difficult to really watch how this country was formed.

And, you know, certainly part of us being part of the narrative, us being descendants of Africans, Africans who were enslaved and Africans who were free. And even going back, I was watching a piece on the Civil War, and it was talking about how the British government came in and offered freedom to enslaved Africans and indentured slaves and indentured servants who would join the British army.

doing, I think, the Indian wars and then partly doing the revolution. So African people in America have been part of every war in America. We've been part of every war. And, you know, it's something that Doc Rivers said. He says that, you know, black people love America. America don't always love us back. And I think that that becomes the frustration in terms of living in this country.

and understanding that the contributions that we made to this country. And then, in spite of that, I mean, think about it, you're a World War I veteran, you come back, you're exposed to mustard gas, everything, everybody else is exposed to, you know, obviously post-traumatic stress syndrome, all those things, you come back and you fought for your country, yet your country still wanted to segregate you. They talked about doing

the second world war where they had German prisoners of war who were housed in the south and they could ride in the front of the train or bus and then black people who served in the military in uniforms still had to ride in the back of the bus or the train you know so it's all these indignities and and um yeah it's all these indignities and it's very difficult

And you would think that we probably moved on from that point, but we haven't. As a matter of fact, there are some who are arguing that we see this white lash, you know, that any progress that's been made by people of color, you know, the dominant Europeans in this country still want to take it back. So yeah, and I think, and that's a great segue into the Supreme Court decision on birthright citizenship.

Let's talk about that a little bit because now supposedly part of the part of the motivation on all of this was the was the so-called Burke tourism where people would come from other countries women be pregnant they come have their baby on American soil because they had to be doing American soil then they

their children obviously would be automatic U.S. citizens. That would open up a pathway for immigration for these folks. And then there was the other thing and they don't use this term as much anymore called anchor babies, right? Where you might have, and this was primarily people coming from Central, South America, Mexico would come have children and that again, because of that. And I'm trying to think what

Donald Trump's status would have been based on had that come up because I don't know if his mom and dad came here legally, but if that was the case and then he was born here would have impacted him. It is rooted in a couple things. It's rooted in that there's a segment in this country who are fearful of white folks no longer being the majority, you know, in terms of population.

uh there's also the nativism there's the racism right that that's attached to this and it look it resonates with people if you can convince someone in west virginia that the reason why you don't have a job is because of a hispanic illegal uh you don't have jobs because of economic policies and economic policies directed by the very person said he was running

for you, he wasn't really running for you. They manipulated you, they tempt your emotions. And so then you became vulnerable. Let's talk a little bit about this birthright citizenship because Michelle kind of mentioned it, but there's something, and I heard this term, I heard this term during the Charlottesville marches. I think that would have been back in 18, was it 2018, where Youngaway lost her life.

But there's this phrase that these guys were one, you shall not, you will not replace us. But then they had this other thing, blood and soil. Blood and soil, and let me try to give you the Latin on this. Blood and soil is described as two primary competing doctrines that nations used to grant nationality. Birthplace.

based on citizenship soil, and ancestry based on citizenship. These two legal frameworks define how a country determine who belongs, who can vote, and who has rights. So, and here's the Latin, Jusoli. Jusoli means that citizenship is granted almost anybody born within the physical territory or airspace of a country, regardless of their parents' nationality or legal status.

In the United States, the United States is an outlier for this model. It is enshrined in the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, which guarantees birthright citizenship. The Supreme Court reaffirmed this blocking an executive order that attempted in birthright citizenship for children of undocumented immigrants. Whereas it's used primarily through North and South America, US, Canada, Mexico, Argentina, and then there is the right of blood.

What it means is citizenship is determined by the nationality of one's parents rather than the physical place of birth. Under this system, a child is automatically a citizen if one or both parents are citizens, even if the child is born in another country. And we say that primarily with kids who are born on military bases, US military bases, or born in other parts of the world because their mom and dad is.

is a U.S. citizen, therefore then they would have the rights of a U.S. citizen. So there's a tension between these two legal philosophies shaped moderate immigration policies, national identities, and global disputes over who's entitled to the rights of the nation. So those are the blood and soil. Now for us, it's both, right? You know, our parents were U.S. citizens.

And we were born in America, so we do both blood and soil. But this idea that they were pushing back on, and this policy really came into place because there was another decision based on a Chinese individual who was born. His parents were here illegally and he was born here and he brought a case before the Supreme Court that reaffirmed 14th Amendment.

rights to US citizenship. Now that becomes important if you want to run for president because in order to run for president you have to be 35 or older and then you also have to be a natural born US citizen. You cannot be naturalized and become president. That was the issue when people were talking about Arnold Schwarzenegger running for president.

well, Honors Forza Nager is a nationalized U.S. citizen. He is not a natural born U.S. citizen. So it becomes important and the consequences of people being able to even erode this and there are many people saying it should have been a 9-0 vote but they're you know they're the they're the Reliables, Alito, Thomas and Gorsuch.

who represent this regressive white supremacist piece or so-called conservatives. That's why when Meach asked me yesterday, how would I describe myself? I think sometimes some people don't fit comfortably in labels. When you look at, again, how maybe the sentence of Africans

might vote or if you look at Latinos and how they might vote. Sometimes it would almost seem that it is contradictory. Like we always talk about how African Americans tend to be socially conservative. Yet when it comes to government, they fully support government socialism as it relates to health, human needs. And so it almost seems

like a contradiction. And so I think it's an important decision. I think people need to understand that you have the rights as a US citizen. And the only time that many of those rights can be taken from you is when you become a prisoner, right? You go to prison. Then your rights can be taken away. That's the only time.

And only time that really the 14th Amendment will allow enslavement. So I couldn't see how the court couldn't do it. I don't know if this was a decision where they allowed the three dissenters to be able to go into dissent. I find it interesting that one of the few times other than when Clarence Thomas was up for confirmation.

and based on allegations that Anita Hill and others made about him and sexual harassment, and he called it a high-tech lynching, you know, for uppity Negroes who dared think for themselves. Dude, it wasn't even about that. And now it was said, now you want to invoke images that usually is applied to black people when you start talking about a lynching, right? And that's one of the things that, you know, Joe Biden didn't really comport himself well.

when it came to that confirmation hearing for Clarence Thomas. And you know what? And this is something a whole lot of black people now get a problem with Clarence Thomas. We're doing that confirmation hearing. There was a whole lot of black people who were supportive of Clarence Thomas. You know that whole thing about, yeah, they trying to bring a black man down. Okay, y'all, really? Sometimes we just really miss place.

We just really misplaced our allegiances. And that one was crazy because again, there were two other women that Biden would not allow to testify. They would have corroborated everything that Anita Hill said. So it wasn't like a real good moment for us. But again, there were a lot of black people who supported Clarence Thomas. And that's the problem sometimes when we get so locked into race, right?

We'll talk about it when we talk about the WNBA. But it's so woven into our society that we can't look at anything without looking at it through the lens of race. And sometimes that's a distorted view. Because race is a construct. It is not real. It's not a biological thing. The only thing is biological is appearance. And that's what it is. So we fall into it.

You know, just for the last few years, I've really been looking at how we even develop this construct of race and their great books out there, the history of white people, which talks about a whole lot of things. It's more complicated and more nuanced than anything. And then let me say something else to some of these descendants of Europeans.

Not all Europeans were granted white status when they got to this country. Asked Jews, asked the Irish, asked Eastern Europeans, asked the Italians, because as they began to come in, those folks who were already here, the nativists, people already here, would be very condescending. In the Boston area where they had a large number of Irish folks, they would have signs of Irish need not apply.

So it is America, but race has been used. Race has been used to justify enslavement, enslavement enriched this country. People work for free, literally work for free, right? And then upon emancipation would even give those people who had worked the land, would not even give them land. And at the same time, compensated,

slave holders for the loss of property. It's hard when you go in and look in at America as we go into celebrating or acknowledging 250 years of existence. We have to talk about the history and there's a movement out there now to sanitize history. But if you're a true historian, you take it blemishes and all. Let me do this other thing about this birth tourism.

I was looking like what countries are the countries that send the most people here or does the they said they average about 36,000 births a year in this country that are people coming from other countries and not surprising it was China and I don't know how much of that when they say China is Taiwan and how much of that is China mainland China but then it's Russia

And then Nigeria. China, Russia, and Nigeria. Not South American countries. China, Russia, and Nigeria. And for people like Nigerians, because basically the Nigerians who are admitted in this country usually come from families of means or they're highly educated, okay?

And that's the other thing, when they sit up and talk about immigration and who are the people in here usually most illegally in this country, that's a bad sentence, is usually people won't stay their visas, right? They legally were able to enter the country and then they basically never went back. So yeah, when you watch that case, that was really rooted in, again, this construct of race.

around race and then and Michelle mentioned it and I think a Chandy Brown kind of mentioned it the only time this Negro wanted to talk about black people To invoke that again, but he's a you didn't talk about new slaves Man come on dude really And again, I asked the question yesterday does he think he's an honorary and Then what's the deal with Clarence Thomas visiting Mike Johnson?

Why would anyone on the Supreme Court be visiting the leadership of Congress? Now, people will tell you that during the time of Richard Nixon was at Rehnquist, he regularly talked to Nixon. He regularly talked to Nixon. There should be a clear separation of powers. We have the executive branch, we have the legislative branch, and then we have the judicial branch.

This should be because Americans should feel that their rights are going to be recognized. And so then we need really independent judiciary. One of the reasons why they give federal judges lifetime appointments is that then they're not under the whims of who's politically in power, even though we do know that those folks usually very beholden to the people who were certainly got them appointed to the Supreme Court.

or got them appointed a judge. There's a judge down in Miami, Judge Cannon, who was a Trump appointed judge. And I'm telling you, with this woman, this woman will do anything to support Donald Trump. That's bad. And she has a lifetime appointment. She has been reprimanded by that circuit in terms of some of her decisions. But what can you do other than impeach her?

Right? I mean, you did. And then that's even a high, high, high bet. So that's where we find ourselves in America as we approach the 250th anniversary of this country. And boy, let me tell you something. You know, I love visiting Washington, DC. I don't know if you all ever do that, but that's a great trip. I mean, there's something about the beauty of that city.

what it represents, and certainly when you get into what they call the federal district, you know, down by the Capitol, the White House, the mall, Lincoln Memorial, the Washington Memorial, and then over on the Potomac where you have the Jefferson Memorial, the King Memorial. I mean, it's just a beautiful city. What Donald Trump has done to the mall is crazy. This whole America State Fair piece that they were doing there, first of all, nobody's showing up.

And now, I think they were predicting that it was going to be like 104 degrees in Washington today. It is going to be hot. And man, just sit up and you think about this dude. They had to close the reflecting pool because he went in and messed up the reflecting pool. He puts a huge replica of this arch that he wants to. I mean, it's just man, it's dude. It's dude. I mean, it's wow.

Anyway, phone lines are open. Someone put in Supreme Court just as need a term limit 15 years. Also packed the court to round the number to 13. I know there have been people out there who've been talking about that, but then it also depends on timing because it's whoever's in power who will put those judges on the Supreme Court.

And I think conceptually, one should not be locked into where I know I got 15 years. I mean, I don't know. You know, in the Catholic Church, if you're a Cardinal, you know, you have to send your retirement letter to the Pope, you know, at the age of 75. It's kind of because, you know, I'm moving in that area now. So how do I feel about age, age limits? No, no, you're listening to Community Boys.

Follow lines open 414-444-525-0. 414-444-525-0. I'm going to take a quick break and we'll be right back.

I don't see Jermaine, so am I back? Welcome back. I'm good. What's happening? I can't hear you. Yes, sir. Okay. Okay. Just make sure I was heard.

Someone put in, I'm looking at the chat. Thank you, Zebra, nor your history. The case in point, New York City's Jeff Riots in 1860s. That is absolutely correct. The Irish could not see themselves going to fight for black people in the South for the Confederacy. And so there were riots in New York.

Zebra also pointed in that Supreme Court justices need a term limit of 15 years. Also packed the courts to around number 13. The problem, as I pointed, that one of the problems would be, whoever had power will be able then to select who those justices or those judges are. Democrats have to learn how to play dirty like the Republicans. They stopped Obama from appointing a judge.

They don't play by the rules, always changing them, but have the nerve to say others cheat. I think that's called projection, where you put on someone else things that in fact you're doing. So it's not surprising. Look, man, folks are in it to win it. And as I get DJ upset, what I say it all the time, but at what the Oakland Raiders used to say, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying.

Yeah, that's where we find ourselves 4144445250414445250. As many of you know, I am a fan of the WNBA. I am a fan of women's sports period. And this has really been, you know, the WNBA is 30 years old. When you look at.

the women who really made this, who really made this league what it is. It was primarily black women, right? And the sacrifices that they really made for people like, let's say Cheryl Miller, who there was no NBA and WNBA. And then when she tore her knee up, you know, she couldn't play anymore. She never had a chance to play the WNBA.

So we were deprived of probably seeing, if not the greatest, one of the greatest women basketball players of all time, not being able to compete at that pro level here in America. But if you go back to people like Lisa Leslie, Cheryl Swoops, one of the first women ever to have her own signature sneaker at Nike.

just on and on and on. And then Black and White Rebecca Lobo, Diana Terrasi. But last year, was it last year or year before last? Whenever Caitlin Clark's rookie year was. Yeah, that was three years ago. She was the great white height. And so when she came into the league and there is no question that the viewership went up

upon her arrival in the WNBA, even though they had had a great product prior to her arriving. What we're discovering now is that she is not the greatest player in the WNBA. She's probably more, more hype than reality. She's a good WNBA player. She's, she has not gotten to the status of great, but I think a whole lot. So even going back to, look, I followed the incident.

women's NCAA tournament. Man, I just go back with her. And when they made the run, when she was at Iowa, and they made the run, when they were able to market her. Remember, we talked about how in America, we have a tendency to view things through race. And so when she got into the league, there were women there, like any rookie. And wow, it made me think about when Pete Marovitch,

came out of LSU and I think he was originally with the Atlanta Hawks and you had people on that team like Lou Hudson and they talked about him coming in making a million dollars a year. We had players like Lou Hudson and the other black players and many white players weren't making that kind of money because he was really the great white hope. Now, in fairness to Pete Maribitch, Pete Maribitch could ball.

They didn't have to hype him. Pete Marovich was a ball. I mean, to the point where you hear Magic Johnson and all those folks going like, man, I'm out of my game after Pete Marovich. But that has always been, and I hate to put it this way, but we got to talk about it, that there's always this tinge of race that's interjected into sports.

right? You can be an above average white player and you will get a height that makes you like, hey, can I give you another name? How about Brian Bosworth, right? You remember the Bos? Oh, he was a beast at Oklahoma. He was just an average linebacker by the time he got to the NFL. And then he was fully exposed when Bo Jackson ran him over.

I think a lot of that leads up to when Caitlyn Clark came into the league. There's no question. The viewership of the WNBA went up. I mean, the viewership went up. So you have to give her credit because all eyes were on her. But then it's also now because all eyes are on her that there's a certain look that there were veteran players and I don't think it had anything to do with Caitlyn.

Clark being white as much as it was. They were trying to figure out why she getting all this hype, you know, and you know, she ain't played a game yet and you had these women out there who had been playing. So I don't know if anybody's familiar with the situation with her and at least Alyssa Thomas over the weekend. Alyssa Thomas received a one day suspension for a Flagret 2 file that wasn't called during the game. So there's a clip where they show that Caitlyn Clark got knocked down.

Alyssa Thomas is standing over and she had a balled up fist and she kind of had it on her throat, but she didn't push down when it was on her throat, kind of used it to balance to get herself up. And oh my God, oh man, white right wing media went crazy. Oh God, you know, this Alyssa Thomas. Now let me say this about Alyssa Thomas. Anybody who watches the WNBA know this is her game. Alyssa Thomas.

is a Rick Mahorn that can shoot. Okay, she's a Rick Mahorn that can shoot. She is limited because one thing she cannot do because I think it's the Librium, she can't lift her arms above her head. So the way she plays, and she's never had the surgery to do the correction because she's been out there playing, but she's always been a rough and tumble player. Angel Reese's rookie year, remember? When she took her down hard, she did a hard foul on her.

So she has a reputation of being a very, very physical player. And that's one of the things I noticed when I watch her. She's trying to really get in the head of the people out there that she's playing against. And one of the things is her physicality. Well, one thing led to another. She received a, she received a one game suspension for Flagrin II file, but then it didn't end there. So now

the racist comes out. There was a guy that saw a great post yesterday on Facebook where the guy comes out and he was saying that you know he didn't watch the WNBA until Caitlyn Clark got there. And so the the person responded well you've been sleeping on all these women out here who are phenomenal talents who you should have watched and it makes it sound like you're racist because the only reason why you watched

was because of Caitlyn Clark. And then now there's another young lady who's actually playing with Caitlyn Clark now, Sophie Cunningham. Sophie Cunningham is this blonde, slender woman, but I'm telling you, Sophie Cunningham is when there's some drama out there, she's usually up in the mix. Now she's not getting the same smoke that Alyssa Thomas is getting.

And that's the racism. And then I was watching Newsmax and the guy was talking about the situation with Alyssa Thomas and Caitlin Clark. And he said, you know, here's the problem. She's white. She has a boyfriend. I'm going, oh, oh, now there's, there, there's, it's, it's open knowledge that Alyssa Thomas is a lesbian. So it's the one of Bonner. That's her partner. So, and look in the WNBA, there are,

a significant number of gay women in the WNBA. So then it turns into now Alyssa Thomas and the one about are receiving death threats. Social media is going out and they do it on racism and it's about race. And so the WNBA has a real problem and they're talking about Engelhardt who is the current commissioner of the WNBA, the player's hater.

Right? The players hate her. She's a person who's come in and she's generated a whole lot of money because here's the reality. How many people would watch the WNBA if Caitlyn Clark wasn't playing? Yeah. 414444525044445250. Someone said, is there a difference between physicality and dirty?

I think it's in the eyes of the beholder. Rick Mahorn had no problem being physical. But then, you know, Rick Mahorn was limited in terms of what he could do when you look physically, when you look at Bill Lanbeer. You know, so what else did they have? So in order, because they might not have had the great athleticism, you use what you got. And so if you're going to be physical,

That's that's what you use. So I don't mean how many of you are watching WNBA. I know I watch it and let me shout out because it was the women in the WNBA who and I talked about this before when they were in the bubble and we had the situation down in Kenosha and and George Floyd where the it was the women in the WNBA who said first they weren't going to play.

the men were on the late show, right? And look, and at this point, they weren't under the current collected bargaining agreement that they have, and they were standing to lose a whole lot of money, but they were able to make that stand. And so those women have been courageous on a lot of different levels. It is what they used to say about Ginger Rogers dancing with Fred Astaire. She did the same steps, but she did them backwards. So the difficulty that women have in this society

you know, as much as we like to make this argument that women are equal, the reality is that women are still in a rather subordinate position, even though it's women who will not only provide care for the children, they'll go out and work. And we have no problem putting that expectation on women, you know. And so, shout out, but going to be really watching what's happening going forward.

with the WNBA. Caller, welcome to the program. Good morning. Good morning, Mr. Pears. Good morning, Mr. Pears. Yes, sir. Mr. Pears, will you just mention in, first of all, I'm going to extend my heartfelt condolences to

The Honorable Minister Lewis Farrakhan on the magnanimous loss of the First Lady of the Nation of Islam, the exemplary woman that she was, and she, how she represented Black womanhood, and extend my condolences to every member of the Nation of Islam.

registered and those who are maybe supporters or who have some support for the nation of Islam. And I wanted to say that because the loss of a mother is so awesome. And then when you come from a family that has the integrity that that family has and has represented, young woman is the little spark and his wife, the first lady, mother Khadija, we're together through

There's all manner of difficulties, one and the other. They were young together, knowing each other, before he started quoting her. And so, to, again, to still have that loss as a mother, and have mother Khadijah, and may Allah be pleased with her example, that she represents you.

for black women and women all over the world and then I wanted to say this about the basketball thing with Caucasian lady and black persons or people other black women um what I've been hearing is that is this is that they think that is not so much more so much about her uh her being Caucasian it's more about that she's not

into a particular lifestyle. She's married and I'm not sure she has children, but she's married and things like that. And so I'm thinking that, well, I'm not necessarily thinking because I don't know too much about it. But what I've been told by some people that they think that this is not is a part of it. This could be the very reason why

This Caucasian lady is having whatever difficulties she's having. I don't necessarily watch the WNBA and I wouldn't let my daughter play basketball. I would try to make her go to a different role, try to convince her to go maybe run track or something like that. Do something that's not as masculine as basketball is. And that's my goal.

But I do think that is not just rooted in the issue of race. It really is rooted around these issues of sexuality. And that's the hard part for a lot of people to kind of accept.

But if we just get out of people's bedrooms and just appreciate them as people and understand that who you love is who you love, it is not for me to say who you love or how you should love who you love. But I think that Christopher, it is not just rooted in race, it's also rooted in a certain homophobia that people have out there as it relates to women and athletics.

general, in general. I do this, I know I gotta go to a break. Before you go to a break, I was watching Sports Center and I see how the young lady is getting death threats for the file, she's committing a... And when you look at it, it wasn't really a... It wasn't even a business call. So it's like for these people to...

For these people to use the file as a luncheon path or for them to to throw Death threats is unbelievable, man Like it's a game. So if we plan and I file you I'm not trying to kill you Right, you know, so it's a game that we plan a game But for you to send death threats at me because I filed your favorite player

It's crazy to me, man. And I'm going to say this. If you watch a women's game, it's a little bit more physical than the men. You know, the way they play, it is just more physical just because some of the things that, you know, just biological differences when it comes to men and women. But yeah, I think it's that in terms of women are very competitive. Yeah. And I don't know if people realize how competitive women are.

uh are they not yeah they were women can be more competitive than that and and when you see them out there man that's the whole thing and that's the thing I really like there's this little sister what is her name uh her last name is uh Kennedy Canada I like her name because she's Kennedy she's a little girl man but this little girl being ballin she'd be putting in work huh she she she got she she's like Skyler Diggins Skyler Diggins weighs 42 pounds

But that woman has so much heart when you look at it. I mean, it is. So I mean, I appreciate that in terms of, you know, like in the NBA, you might have some guys who was all like Michael Jordan, you know, Michael Jordan was obsessed with women. Kobe Bryant, Larry, these dudes, they were obsessed with it. But not every dude in the NBA was that way. Yeah. Right. You know, a lot of dudes have to collect and check. But you watch these women.

they all they play her yeah you know I mean the whole thing and so it's a great product and I'm just sorry but look it's America I have to accept this reality that people gonna bring race into it you know and then you get into what you what you what you get into now I thought you know when you look at

Anyway, all right, I'll come back. I'll pick this up a little bit. I'm gonna have a moment, man. I'm gonna have a moment. You're listening to Community Voice. The phone lines open 414-444-525-0414. 445-250. If I take a quick break, we'll be right back.

I've FM with your host, Keith Parris. All right, welcome back. Caller, welcome to the program. Good morning. Caller. Hang on, Keith. I walked away from the phone. Hang on. Here I come. Sorry about that, man. I have went into the kitchen real quickly. From a distance. Yeah, we call it a whiteout.

I walked away from the board, my bad. You know, Keith, I love watching the WNBA too. I think it's a good product that they got out on the floor too. But in that post I sent you, the great white hope is always alive, Keith. Uh-oh.

And they always going to find a way to keep themselves relevant, even though we put in the hard work. What's that old saying? We got to run faster, jump faster, all that other kind of stuff. They don't have to work as hard as we do now. Has Caitlin won a championship in anything that she's been playing? She has not. Nope. Nope. High school. High school. High school, yeah, yeah. She did in high school. Yeah, yeah, high school she did. On the collegiate level.

No, no. Not in the NBA of WNBA yet either, right? No, right. Who's got the most technicals that you know so far? Caitlin Clark. Okay, so she ain't no, she ain't no, uh, uh, what I want to say, uh, what's the proper words? Correct. There you go. But I was looking for a little bit, but that'll, that'll work. So she'd be out there cussing, fussing, all that kind of stuff. So, you know, you dish it out, you got to take it, right? I agree.

And so that's my feeling on it, but this is what I had called him to say too, because it's really making me mad because I think it was a, I don't know if it was a congressman, a senator or something. And I don't know if that's the guy you were talking about, Keith, that once, um, what's the black lady's name? To me, it looked like she kind of, I don't think she did it on purpose, Keith. I watched that over and over and over, Keith. I don't think she did that on purpose, Keith. Yeah. Because if she would have did that on purpose, trust me.

She would have stayed on that neck a lot longer than that. Oh, man. And like I said, ask Angel Reese, because Angel Reese's rookie year, listen, Thomas, took her out. I mean, like, took her out. That was like the wrong woman file. And I want to be careful about it, because it ain't all white people. But it's going to sound like I condemn it all white people when I say this. I asked you earlier, have you watched this land? And you said you haven't watched it yet.

They have the nerve to call people savages, right? They are the true savages. If you sit down and watch, I think this might have been the third or fourth week of this program. Everybody that's in this country has contributed to this nation. But who do they want to take credit for that built this nation? White.

They are the true savages. They want to take credit for everything. This is stolen land. So for him to talk about this birthright stuff is a joke. Even his people now would bear and fall under that. Well, you know, that was a question because again, his mother's from Scotland and his dad is from Germany. I would think that those two countries didn't have like the quota.

because a lot of people don't realize that there's a quota in terms of the number of people who can come into this country. I think it's like based on 2% of the current population. And so it could have been, I think it's a slippery slope because if you can go in and determine that this group would not be eligible for birthright citizenship, what would be the next group?

But the fact that it wasn't nine years ago. How far back would you have to go to claim for a fight citizenship? So would everybody have to clear out? Well, I mean, you know, obviously, per Clarence Thomas, we wouldn't. Because the 14th of November was just written for former enslaved.

individuals and their descendants. That's based on his argument. I think if you have a more expansive view of people who come to America, and look man, every group has come in and made some contribution to this country being what it is. Everybody. And so I think we should be careful not to make one group's contribution more significant than I think it all plays together.

for America being unique and in a lot of ways in world history America is a very unique country you know in terms of what it is you know no country at this size and scale has ever done a participatory citizen democracy as imperfect as it is you know the land of immigrants now people i'm gonna tell you something now if the white man truly thought

that they can win any of these wars that they have without the Native Americans, because they contributed to the wars, we did, the Chinese, you name it. Do you think if they thought they could have won any of those wars without any of them, don't you think they would have excluded us out of that? I think in some instances, that was the case. You know, it was the Union, I don't think it really allowed...

descendants of Africans and African people to fight until what, like 1863. And you know what the trip part about it is, Keith, as bad as this country has done us and everybody else, when you go back and you look at these stories, I would just watch one other day about this, about these brothers. It's called 24 Keith. It's about a battalion, the 24th combat battalion, Keith.

We be one to going to sacrifice our life with this country to prove ourselves, not just us, but everybody here. But when you come back home, the soldiers from Vietnam, from World War Two, you name it, how badly they were treated, even in their uniforms, Keith, they were hung in their uniforms, Keith. So it makes me mad with these death threats. That's cowardly stuff. Cowardly stuff, Keith.

But I think, but it is also, again, and I don't know if I should elevate it to this, but it's also the sickness of racism in this country. And just how, I think I wouldn't use the word perilous. The impact is, and even those who practices those who are the victims of it, there is no winner. I mean, one of the things you talked about Vietnam,

and they had to go to a draft lottery because the draft disproportionately impacted, now here's the thing, and that's why I say you can't always look at things through race. It wasn't just poor black folks, it was a whole lot of poor white men who end up going to fight in Vietnam. And until the lottery, because if you were college educated, your family had means, ask Donald Trump.

you go and get all these deferments whether they call him general uh uh bone spurs keep on to say this because we always talk about Donald Trump but you know who another two presidents who got deferments Bill Clinton yeah and Joe Biden yeah okay okay now it works for bone spurs because if you have means or

I think it was because if you were in college and some Bill Clinton was a perpetual student. I can't remember what the other ones were for because I looked this up, Keith. Oh, he did as much as we talk about it being race. It is. But race is really baked into class. That's why I would suggest that everybody read Isabel Wilkerson's book cast.

Because you get a real understanding that is deeper than race. Yeah. It's deeper than race. And I think that when we have the racial arguments, it divides people who should have a natural affinity because if you're a displaced coal miner in West Virginia, it impacts you the same way if you're a displaced factory worker in Detroit. And like I said to Keith, the other day when I was talking to you and a lot of the coal miners in Kentucky and stuff was

even though he took away the stuff for cancer and all that kind of research and stuff for coal miners along with a black lung and stuff like that. They said they would still vote for him. How crazy is that? But at the same time, some of those very same coal miners had voted for Obama. And that's the little piece that people miss that because in spite of everything they might have had internally in terms of falling back on race, there was a reality here. The affordable health.

the Affordable Care Act, opened up clinics in rural areas. Dentistry was a real issue in rural areas. That's why when you read J.D. Vance's book, Hill Millie Allergy, there's something in there that's called Mountain Dew Teeth because of the bad dental care because people didn't have access to dental care. Well, your dental health impacts your regular physical health. So people began to understand and plus it created jobs.

I just want to say this one other thing too before I get off. Because you watch the WNBA just like I don't know what the other fellas in there watch it. But Keith, and it's some fine women in the WNBA. Yes sir. Fine. Fine. But here's the reason why I said this too, Keith. Because all the fine sisters and stuff, not just sisters, you name it. Guess who they want to make.

as far as beauty, the one that they're displaying, as far as beauty, and you said her name earlier. Okay, LaClare. Sophie Cunningham. Well, Sophie Cunningham, but you know what? Sophie Cunningham, I've been watching her since she was at Missouri. She was like that at Missouri. She's blind. People think, oh, because she's blind and she's slender. No, she sticks her nose in it.

You look at some of those altercations with the fever and see who's in the middle of it. Sophie Cunningham. But I'm saying keep as far as a beauty standard. I think that's the same thing with a whole lot of women who watch the NBA because they think certain basketball players are cute. I mean, that's it. Here's the other thing though. The WNBA is trying to attract that male market, right?

And so how do you appeal to that? And I think that that's one of the problems because of the number of women in the WNBA who are gay, you know, for some men, that's off-putting, right? To me, I think Angel Reese is probably one of the finest ones there, man. Yes, sir. I think she find it in Sophie Cunningham. Yes, sir. And that's a good thing. But here's the thing, Angel Reese can play. Sophie Cunningham can play. She play a little bit, but she's coming off the bench.

Right, right. Okay, y'all. Thanks. Peace. You got another caller, Jack. Caller, welcome to the program. Good morning. Good morning. Yeah, my question for you. I know the Republicans is bringing up all this. I'm gonna call it Black Velvet drama. Well, no, no, no, not Black Velvet. I'm gonna say Whiskey Williams drama, because that's what they usually

Drink when the satay want to tear the whole house upside down A lot of brothers do too Well, yeah, but you know, they're more of the black velvet and parmesan drinkers I know we drink a lot of yak, but I didn't know that people are still drinking parmesan They're still drinking parmesan, yes

Okay. But in the rural town, they get the Williams whiskey. And the question is, don't you think the Republicans need to clean up around their own house? I'm a minority immigrant. Yeah, I think that that's that look, man, hypocrisy is so baked in to politics that the images that you see are not the reality.

Let's talk about the Republican Party. Let's talk about the Southern Baptist Convention. The Southern Baptist Convention right now is dealing with a major sex scandal. But you know what they're focusing on? Whether or not women should be allowed to preach in pastor. That's a diversion from the real issue there. The abuse of women in the Southern Baptist Convention. So will they clean it up?

I don't know. I mean, human beings, you can be confronted with your truth. And that doesn't mean you're going to act on it in a positive way. I don't know. I can't answer that. But as long as we've had political parties, we've had hypocrisies. And then this thing we're here with the LGBT. The dude who hit Eli must in the eye. And he part of the LGBT made to a white man raised in white children. And I don't hear none of these flags.

I don't hear y'all give them no smoke. Y'all really a punk. Not the P-U-N-K, the P-O-N-K. Y'all ain't gave them no smoke. Well, you know what, but you know why I am? Because I'm going to tell you, it is one of the most... Our sexuality is as basic as we are, right? I mean, it's our sexuality. Yet we have...

a very difficult time either understanding it, dealing with it. I mean, so I'm not surprised because when we start to have these issues around sexuality, there are so many things going in. Like I think they missed the boat in that hole, let the states decide on whether or not trans can participate primarily in women's sports because Clarence Thomas never even wanted to deal with the science.

I mean, some of these issues is really more about science and not our feelings, not our morality. It's really about science. And we don't want to deal with the science because the science might throw us off our square in terms of how we feel. And I'll say it again, how we feel about an issue. So we feel strongly about an issue. No matter what the facts say, we ain't moving off that square. And we do that for our own detriment.

I mean, I think if we really want the trans issue is a more complicated issue than there are only two genders. That is not science doesn't say that this absolute. Yes, the vast majority of people are probably biologically male and biologically female. But then when we understand our sexuality and our sexual orientation, it's more than physically where we are. It's how we think of a thing.

It's more complicated and I know people don't want to deal with that. So it's real comfortable to come in and say what the Bible says. Don't use the Bible for science. That's a misadvocation of the Bible. And then I know when it comes to the laws and lessons of life, especially when it comes to dope dating and the master set, they mess with anything and everything. Man, woman, cat, dog, she, she, her man for dyke.

They don't talk about all the scandals. They mad about all this. But yeah, they remains one even penis. And don't let them get homeless. Don't let them get homeless. That's not the only thing to it up in the air. Yeah, but I'm going to say this. It's like when we talk about prostitution, people will, if you're simplistic, you think that these women and men

out there because they love having sex so much. That's not the case. You use the word. There's a desperation. I'm using what I got to eat. I'm using what I got to help me deal with my, with my addiction. So when people are so judgmental, not understanding that I used to say this when I was a young preacher and I got in a whole lot of trouble. I said, well, there's a whole lot of women who were married who were prostitutes, right? That's, you know, that was probably in a politic way of saying it. What I'm saying is that people use what they got.

It's certainly in order to survive. Prostitution is for the most part, not in every case. But for the most part, those women you see on the scroll on Lisbon ain't out there because they like sex that much. They're out there because they're either trying to survive or they're trying to deal with a drug issue. So, you know, I think we should be less judgmental, but we don't want to take the time that you're going and try to understand the problem. It's just better to bitch about it and react to it as opposed to saying, well,

One, the conversation, and then it kind of rolls back with me. I don't need to be in your bedroom. And that's the problem. We don't have a problem with being in other people's bedrooms. We have a problem with people being in our bedrooms. I think you need to extend that to everybody. How you get down ain't my business. It ain't my business.

But do you think, do you think the real business is they can't get nobody to go in that bitch room? So it could be a lot of things. It could be a lot of things. I don't, I, you know, I mean, that's what I'm saying. It is more layered and, and, and complicated. What do we focus on with the diddy? Did we focus on diddy just physically abusing a woman?

No, we focused on baby oil because that gets into our whole period interest like, ooh, what they doing? And ooh, I wouldn't do that. Okay, that ain't you. But there's a lot of people that use baby oil. Now people say there's probably a better lubricant. But hey, that's not for me. I'm not out trying. I'm just saying. So when we had the conversation, it's easy to get emotional about the conversation, kind of focus in on things, but a lot of things how, how.

I listen to them, you know, because Jill was pride, but more and more people were out telling their stories. And when you especially hear about people who grew up in the church and how they were so taught to hate themselves because of who they love by a place that should have been based on love and the damage that it did to people emotionally, right? Psychologically, we could care less about that because all we know is the Bible said,

Okay, you did that, but we should never use Bible or scriptures as a weapon. And we have, and we need to step up to that reality. So I agree with you in terms of, no, they're not going to deal with their issue. They prefer to focus on something else. How do you talk about trans people that makes up such an insignificant statistical portion of our society, but it has such an outsize because it plays into our feelings, fears.

when it comes to sex. Yes sir. Quick question. Is it that that they're using the Bible as a weapon or they're using it as a form of correction? Even if I would agree with using it as a form of correction, there's another part of me that says that who am I to correct someone else's sexuality?

That is keep what no no no wait wait wait hold on hold on again Jermaine knows what I said that's key right right right so so I mean so me speaking the key The person key not the person that wears the collar so If you was wearing the collar the collar person would say In that the biblical aspect is correction. I know I said the collar

No, I mean, even though I'm saying even with the college is that you want to do that correction, then we need to fully apply the correction. So if I talk about it all the time, Jesus, Keith, is that because the Baptist? Is that because you're Baptist? No, it has nothing to do with that. It has everything to do with Jesus talked about divorce. Jesus was very strong in his teachings on divorce. Right. Right.

I don't hear people up doing corrections on divorces because context now we can tell or you think about context and time and doing that time. Okay. Why isn't that same rule then apply to people that are gay? Well, Jesus didn't talk about people being gay. No one can show me where Jesus talked about people being gay. Wait, Jesus did talk about people getting divorced and primarily how men during that time use

divorce look I got tired of her I give me a new model I don't do anything to take care of her let her get out there and then what is open the door for opens the door for this woman either to find herself in a more abusive relationship or she's forced to prostitution I haven't heard that level of correction well correction I hear is on people who were gay well I don't know that that ain't a fair application if you're not saying the people

who are unwilling to take care of their kids. Where's the Bible and the correction on that? I don't hear that. Well, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. So are we talking about the human side of being moral or are you talking about the spiritual aspect of your life? Because if you're talking about the spiritual aspect of your life, a correction is all through the Bible.

as far as the stuff that he calls sin. So I'm going to tell you, and you know this in your life, that sin is relative. And what I mean by sin is relative is that people who grew up and very fundamentalists, kind of crossed the homes, could not watch television. It was considered a sin. Going to the movies was considered a sin. I'm not talking about it. People call it sin. That's what I'm saying. When I hear this term sin,

Sin is usually in the eye of the beholder. No, but that's not what the Bible say, Keith. That's not what the word of God says. So what that sin is in the eye of the beholder, I've talked about how it's practically being applied, because obviously what the word of God said is secondary to people's reality. And I'm just saying that if

we're able to pick people up and again that's why you think I think you have to have a conversation around sex and sexuality based on the science and then how you use that sexuality becomes the morality. Do you think that that is based on and then you can kind of take it

where you will but I mean you see different doctrines and or you know the different denominations that that lean a certain way in certain aspects or you think that's why we see so many different denominations or what's what's what's the reasoning for that because there's a lot of different ways that people teach yeah I got that and I think that's that's not surprising because people have their own sense of what revelation is and what that revela that revelatory truth that we have

But again, when I hear this term sin, for example, I just gave you examples, you know, that, you know, smoking, the Bible doesn't say smoking is a sin, but what smoking is, is a bad health issue. No. Exactly. So it, it, it don't say that smoking is a sin. However, if you defile your body, the cost of you defiling your body,

The sickness that comes upon you People will say that you know the sin is they don't say you you can't drink it. They say don't drink and drunkenness, right? Exactly. So So The Bible talks about

The Bible talks about you being in the drunken in state Exactly so Right right right so it's like so it's like the drinking part the drinking part are you casually drink but when you get drunk

you are no longer yourself. So now you're, you're operating out of a totally whole different spirit, which now I understand, and I've been saying this for years now, when you ride past these liquor stores, you see it's a sign that say we have wine, beer, and spirits. Because when you get those spirits inside of you, you are no longer yourself.

No, wait, wait, but but he just made my point because when I used to drink and my drink was outside of the dark liquor, the Hennessy and Coke and Parmesan,

I used to back in the day, but I stopped But I'm gonna tell you why drinking Paul my son and drinking gin and juice Mm-hmm, man, I would turn into a totally different person man. I mean, I'm a totally whole different person person that I didn't even know

It was in you, but I didn't know what he said old wretched man that I am exactly and he talked about the old man is still there But you don't know wretched until those spirits come up out of you. So I have I'm just saying it's in you your purse You know you don't hear four words from

Let them get a couple drinks in the UK. Shut them up with it. Well, yeah. Well, yeah, that is true because even on the flip side, if you out there with a young lady, I've heard people say, hey, you know, get her drinks in. Then the ones you get are comfortable. Now she's comfortable.

Now she's loose and she's gonna tell me she's gonna I mean she gonna tell every she gonna pillow talk So if you're looking for information between her and somebody who you beefing with that might be with her you get her comfortable You know what you know, you know, you know who alcohol lose it men That's the middle woman and you just confess cuz you in love you confess your whole life you get name pillow talk render Louise all those things

Guess what guess I need to take a break Oh Then it had a BS and BS over

people drink. Cause like I said, when I was a kid, we didn't even drink beer. You know, it was usually brandy or wine. I welcome back somebody put in the chat, MD 2020 is making a comeback. Not the bad dog. Not the bad dog.

While I was while I was Rose I hear now somebody said this the other day that a rich Caucasians are drinking while I was while the Irish Rose as a dinner wine. Yeah, that's what they're saying. That's cool. They just say because it's a sherry. It's a sherry. Yeah. I don't know. I think I've run to sit here, but sherry is also like a palate cleaner.

I think, you know, like if you, I think people use Sherry to like kind of clean your palate. Yeah. Uh, yeah, but it's a, it's a Sherry. Okay. Now I can see why Paul must know that. We drink a lot of brandy here and Paul Masson's a brandy. Okay. Making sense. I think, I think, uh, vodka is the number one in the state of Wisconsin. Well, it used to be, and then brandy held us very strong second. No, I thought it was brandy because they're old fashions.

Mm-hmm vodka cuz of Fleshman's Yeah, but I'm gonna tell you this man one thing about alcohol man When it gets in you You do find yourself doing some things that you never thought that you would do

And speak for yourself. Well, yeah, okay. Well, I'm I know I'm just saying like just from some of the choices of You know that I made like who you woke up in Florida some of that Jesus you like what was I think? Alcohol will make you do some things that

In the morning, you'd be like, what happened? Yeah, I think I thought I thought it was just a great analogy someone put in the chat. It's that it's true with liquor. Liquor just took the dog chain off. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you used the term you less inhibited, you know, when you because for whatever reasons. But no, they said that the most popular drink in Wisconsin is the brand deal fashion.

Okay, but I mean, no, no, no, that's a mixed drink. Yeah. And then it says, okay, Wisconsin replates it with brandy. In fact, the state consumes more brandy than the other 49 states combined brandy. Brandy was in there, but I think flesh and I'm only talking the state of Wisconsin. Again, I believe at the time I was a liquor salesman. Vodka was, was, was like number one and flesh moon was like the number one.

Yeah, but I you know, have you ever been up the foxes and hounds? Foxes and hounds and in a Hubertus. No, no, no, no. Rhonda took me up there one year for my birthday on for a fish fry. Mm hmm. And do it was brandy old fashions and Miller beer. And then the other one they said is a night highlight, right? The highlight beer, Miller Highlight.

And then the other one they said is the, what is it? God. Brandio fashion. No, this is the other one that's not Brandi. It's a Bloody Marys. Yeah, Bloody Marys. Right on 35th and North Avenue when I sold for a particular company, Fletchman's Vodka.

You would have a 30 case deal. Right. This big display. And every week, religiously, you are easily ordering 10 to 15 cases to replenish your display. Really? And that's on 35th and North, flesh and vodka. Yeah, and that probably had a lot to do with, you know, being in the city. But when you think about state-wide, because they say we consume more brandy in Wisconsin than they do in France.

Somebody said Keith introduced me to a liquor Keith introduced him to what? I think he talked about his brother Keith He does have a brother named Keith No, we had um, what do we have we have a

What was it was a ginger beer and Uncle Nierce? Oh Leave my uncle out of this. That's ginger beer and uncle Nierce Hey Uncle Nierce is that he's referring to the uncle as he was referring to the uncle Nierce Yeah, we yeah, we were at um, oh, that's when who was it, you know, no big deal. It was me Keon Stingley and George and and so we

And we were at Elsa's. And it was Uncle Nearest and what was it? I can't think of it now. The Uncle Nearest and what is the ginger beer? Who was it made by? Nuglaeus or who was it? Uncle Nearest was one of them. I don't know Uncle Nearest. I'm talking about Nuglaeus being the local.

up north in Nouglares, Wisconsin. They make the spotted cow. You know, I was wondering if they're burning. And we had had something. What was it? Rhonda, we went to see Stevie Wonder in Chicago. Was that something? Oh, Moscow Mule. And I had never had ginger beer before. And Moscow Mules, they have like ginger beer. And so, yeah, that was the...

And so, but here's the thing I discovered about ginger beer and it's really ginger beer is really popular in the islands is man. It is high in sugar. It is high in sugar. It tastes good. Joe said, no, you fool. I know. I was trying to do some positive. He was deflecting. He was deflecting. Right. I thought it helped that he had a brother named Keith.

Yeah, we we had we've gone out and George George thought it was good opportunity for us to go out and Keon is that when he asked you to if rounder could bake him a chocolate cake. Oh, no, that never came up Here you go start. Oh, I was just asking that we came up welcome to the program Hey, what's going on? Yeah, it was that

I was just listening to Jemaine and y'all talking about liquor and the things that it might have you do and you know that you don't normally do. I wanted to ask everybody and I guess I'll start with Jemaine. Has everybody during the you know the process the part where you're learning what your limit is had that

conversation with the lord. Yeah. You know, it might have been over 12 and you couldn't make it. Yes, sir. What was the drink and I guess I want to ask each one of y'all. What was the drink y'all was drinking and from where it made y'all had that conversation? Black Daniels. My, my was Moet. Now, you know how back in the club days, everybody used to go to the club and you buy two or three bottles of Moet.

just to walk around the club. Oh, yeah, man. We was out. Stupid. And I'm pouring drinks and other, you know, people cups and pouring in my and before the end of the night, both bottles was gone and I was so toe up. I felt sick and I promise God that I would never do that again in my life. And I never did it again because when I woke up that next morning, I felt

Terrible man, I felt like I was still hungover like it was like I wanted to know why the bed wouldn't stop spinning Who's spinning this joint like what's going on man? Like no, I'm the biggest fool you ever seen in your life because At the end I'm reverting back to when I sold liquor for a particular company again We had a new energy drink out so they would give us cases of samples. Oh, so I had a bar at the time So I'm running around letting everybody try that I'm trying it with

with my Kettle One vodka at the time. And I've been drinking this stuff all evening. Man, you talk about the room spinning. I said, Lord, if you just, if I ever, I'll drop you out never. And I think it was an energy drink.

That's what it was. Yeah, cuz you know know cuz the you know energy drink was keeping me up Yeah, absolutely man was the worst situation I've ever seen for me anyway, you know my conditioning

Yeah, I had the last single go because I was waking up the place that I know where I was at. I was just sitting up here thinking there's the throne of grace and then the throne of waste. Yeah, the throne of waste. Oh, but yeah, it was Jack Daniels for me. That was the one man. Jack Daniels was. And you know,

It'd be like cowboy drinking, you know, lead the bottle. You don't remember in the Western, they say lead the bottle. Yeah. And I had a buddy after I pretty much just fell back from using drinking Jack Daniels. They had a buddy come by one day and he was drinking like he was drinking Kool-Aid. I'm like, Negro, you know you had to get home, right? Man. So. Yeah. Speaking of Kool-Aid, I would say keep my first one word.

a punchbowl that probably had Kool-Aid in it. You know how you go to the party and everybody pouring in high school, everything in it. And I never forget me and my cousin. We don't now know how we got back to my house. But all I know is my mother, that was the first time my mother knew I was drinking, I was still in high school. And we had to get up when she came home to get her bath on the floor together. So that's the way we did it. But one more thing I want to mention that I wish was back on the market.

And Debo, you might be able to speak to this one. Do you remember the Bacardi Breezer? Oh, yeah. Yeah. But all the mixed drinks, man, that was my favorite, you know, anything similar to a wine cooler, man. I mean, the juice in it seemed like it was real and it had enough Bacardi, but not too much. Have you seen these cut waters? I have seen them. Give it a try. I will.

Yeah, that's my liquor conversation except for the long I was a son. He's, you know, I was a man. I was there. I was talking to me about another man. That's another girl. Yeah. I was a man. Everybody started drinking Alizadeh when Tupac was cool late. Yeah. Yeah. But it didn't make you feel that way. And chasing it with Hennessy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just make it.

I had I never back in the day we were playing ball on the Sunday and we thought man we played ball week let's go and get some refreshing and I guess we were drinking the Long Island's like it was real iced tea wow and found out it wasn't real iced tea because I think they put seven liquors in the Long Island yes there's seven in there

Yeah and that's that's like man so I think I got to one and a half and to this day I don't know how I got home so I'm just saying you know it you know and I think that when you're younger your body your recovery is different yeah man you know that when you're older

you know, but dude, I mean, and you know, sometimes it was never like I set out like, like, like, like, like, like, like the white dudes I went to college with, they set out with one intention, one intention in mind, they gonna get. Yeah. I mean, that for me, it was just kind of one thing led to another led to another led to another, it is like, damn, how did this happen? Because one thing I never did when I got depressed or something like that, I wouldn't drink.

You know, so it wasn't but man, you just get out and and you know, I'll give you another one of My senior year in college We elected a new president and they had a like you obviously no champagne fountain Yeah, yeah, yeah, but instead of champagne they had I speak it was the first time my life ever had I speak dude I was drinking that man. It was so

I don't know. I ended up 17 miles away from Emmysburg, Maryland. How I got to where I got to. And then I got sick as a dog, man. I had eaten. Oh, it was like, phenomenal. I've had some pretty bad experiences. You know, most of them have not been bad, but I've had some bad ones. But Robin and I, when we were in Puerto Rico, we went to the Bacardi factory and we had an eight year old rum. Oh my God.

Rod even thought that Rod is not a drinker. That's good. It was it was really smooth. You got to be careful of those smooth ones. Yeah. After a while. Yeah. They creep up on you. Yeah. Yeah. They creep up on you. That was the slow jib, right? Yeah. Yeah. Slow jib. You get up and you in the car and then it was like, cause you drink it like, oh, oh, oh. Keep that home like that. Here come.

129 points some odd Uncle nearest than the other one is a hundred proof Then then there's the 97 proof they've got like four different levels of this stuff man And I don't even understand why I'd need to be any more than the 97 way hold up. Hold up. Wait, so you said it's a it's a hundred and I got a hundred and twenty-nine proof at the house 229 there's a hundred percent proof and it's 97 so

Like what's the highest it can go? Well that that that 129 when that is like the the That's definitely what what do you call it the the master? What's his name Keith? The distiller Yeah, well, it's it's his bike premium. Yeah, that's his top of the line Well, yeah, somebody bought it from out it. I do not invest that kind of money in that kind of stuff. Oh, so wait, so the 129

is more expensive than 100. Oh, absolutely. Oh, yeah. But you know, but here's the thing, though. Those are just for you to set. Yeah, for a night out on the town. But you you better be at the house if you decide to do that. There are people out there that really enjoy the taste of a good brandy, you know, or a good cornyag or a good bourbon.

you know, but it's not like taking it to the head because you take it to the head with that level on the rocks man, if you, you know, in a rock glass, you know, a couple double shot or something like that and let that do you might do two of those sit back with a nice guard, you know, and just kick it. Oh yeah, I mean that because that's kind of how it's supposed to be. Now look, there's some people up there I had to do, you know, you would just sit you talk about Fleshman's but he was drinking like a quart.

of a fifth of what is that? Secrets vodka? Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he had a whole lot of health issues. And you know, people that drink, drink flesh and will look down on somebody that drinks cold stuff like that, you know, like, let me let me do this, man. Yeah.

Only got a minute for this last caller because they gotta get out the way for Kweku and Alicia. Call the one to the program. Let me help you fellas out. You're talking about proof and alcohol content. A hundred and ninety-four is equivalent as the purest you can get for pure alcohol.

When I was a youngster in the 50s and the early 60s, we had golden grain. It was cheap. And that's what you were spiked up with. Golden grain. A few of the alcohol, they had some other names. But golden grain was one. Two alcohols. 180 proof or 190 proof. You may drink rubbing alcohol. So when you take the proof and have it,

So y'all write that on a book so so so the higher the amount the drunker you get so when you read a bottle and it says 45% alcohol that makes it 90 proof you always double it. Oh, yeah, 25% don't make 90 that ain't doubling that's good to prove

I'm just talking about was the ingredient that you use in jungle juice? That's one thing. Proof is half of that is the percentage back off. And y'all have a good one, Dr. Right. So yeah, they used to do something called jungle juice on black campuses was in Wakatumi. But you start off with grain alcohol. That's just pure alcohol.

And then they start pouring in other alcohols. I'm going to tell you the quietest time ever on Mount St. Mary's campus was the day after a jungle juice party. Folks would be so hungover and so sick in the cafeteria. Dude. Dude. I didn't mess with it. I didn't mess with it. Wow. All right, y'all. Hey, man, let me appreciate it. The program didn't kind of go where I thought it was going to go, but that's how it is sometimes. Clark Kent, thank you.

Thank you. Debo, thank you. Yes, sir. Apostle, thank you, Carlos. Welcome. We thank you. And the good Lord, Will and Creek, don't rise. Hope to talk to everybody tomorrow. And as always, go from this place in peace.