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We begin the first hour with Daybreak with Brian and Jamie.
Brian and Jamie discuss whether there should be an age limit on Congress.
They discuss what the cap should be and how that change would come about.
Fairly solid and better than expected.
It's Daybreak
with Brian and Jamie.
Good morning.
Thank you so much for joining us on this Friday.
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My name is Jamie Martinson.
And good morning.
I'm Brian Noon and you know, there's mandatory retirement ages in a lot of fields.
And yet we do not have them for our politicians.
So do you think there should be an age gap?
Not Gap.
Cap.
Old folks need not apply to...
For our politicians, 8-5-5-7-5-CIVIC, 8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2, I'm going to 100% full-throated say yes.
Absolutely.
There is no reason that Chuck Grassley, and this has nothing to do with party.
I think Joe Biden was too old.
I think Donald Trump is too old.
I think Chuck Grassley is too old twice.
I think, you know, all these guys...
And ladies, Diane, yeah, it was a Diane Feinstein.
She literally died in office.
Yes, they kept her alive just so she could, it's stop, stop with this.
Well, I'm not the only one who thinks that way.
An overwhelming majority of Americans, actually eight in ten, are in favor of setting age caps as well as term limits for members of Congress according to the latest NPR PBS News Marist poll.
Count me as one of those eight.
Yes.
So both ideals are hypothetical because God forbid we actually make significant change.
Neither is being seriously considered by Congress.
One, because...
they don't want to, and two, because maybe they're too old to read them.
Support for each cuts across many backgrounds and party lines.
The poll found 78% of Democrats support both age caps and turn limits, and 83% of Republicans backed maximum age limits, nearly nine in 10 supported term limits.
So, I know it's hypothetical, but why aren't we doing it?
We talk about it all the time.
There's no
If you're, if at 65 and 65 is not old, 65 you could still do a lot of stuff.
But in the private sector, 65 people are being put out to pasture who could still do their job very well.
Why are we having 92 year olds and 84 year olds?
And this is not ageist at all.
Because I'm closer to those ages than I am to Parker's age.
But...
I mean...
It's
time.
There's term limits for the president.
So why aren't there term
limits for the people?
Well, there used to be.
There should be.
There
is
constitutionally.
There is what
we know
as of right now.
But for people in Congress, there should also be.
term limits.
And these people should not be serving for decades.
In some cases, a literal lifetime.
Chuck Grassley, who you mentioned is one of those people, Mitch McConnell, Nancy Pelosi.
I mean, you mentioned Chuck Schumer as well.
The list actually goes on and on.
We have more people right now serving in Congress who have been in their seat for 30 plus years or more than
we
have for less than a decade.
This is not how the system was set up.
And their defense is
Well, the first couple years you're in, you're still getting your footing and you can't really get stuff done.
Well, how about this?
I don't get two years at my job to get my footing.
I get probably, probably, if I'm lucky, 60 days, most likely 30 days.
In some cases, you better hit the ground running that first day or you're out.
So if you're running, you should have plans in place and you should be ready to make a mark because how it was set up, this whole system was
Farmers and everybody came in they did a little time in Congress and then they went back to their real jobs Right Congress was not supposed to be a job where you could make millions and millions of dollars instead of serving the people this was not They and I know things change But the whole system that we operate under was meant as to serve not to profit and it is not
turned out that way at all.
I mean, I would love to see some sort of change in several rules that apply to members of Congress, not only from the term and limits.
I also think, and again, this isn't Aegis, but as we get older, sometimes our brains just aren't as sharp.
We're tired.
I think there should also be a cap on when people can actually throw their hat into the ring to actually
run.
Well, that gets to the cap.
If you decide to run, let's say the cap is 70.
Let's just say sure Senate six year six year term You can't run after 64, right?
You're sorry you you're gonna age out and Unless you want to serve then on your 70th birthday.
We have a sheet cake from Costco as we toss your behind out of the Capitol That's not gonna work.
So yes, you have to you got you got to have that right you got to have the age thing in there and this is just
What was interesting about this, because I know there's some people who are probabilistic, they just don't like old people.
Well, in this poll, it didn't matter.
Old people were just as likely to sport age caps and term limits as younger voters.
So everybody, everybody outside of Congress who is not, you know, bellied up to the trough, making their money, looks at this and says, yeah, this makes sense.
There's no reason this is happening.
If you want to chime in this morning, we'd love to hear from you.
If you think there should be an age cap for politicians, 1-855-752-4842, 1-855-75 Civic, Jim chimes in over on our text line this morning.
He says a money cap needs to be introduced.
I fully agree with that as well.
I believe when I say that there should be several reforms put into place for members of Congress, how much they can actually profit, what they're able to invest in, how they're able to make money while they're in office, all of those
things need to be top to bottom looked at again.
And I know they've tried.
It's actually been the Republicans who have chose to not take those bills up.
And in fact, Wisconsin's old Ron Johnson had many, many words to say about how Congress people should actually be able to profit while in office.
But, you know, a lot
of... And listening to what you just said, and I know Roger loves to make that bag,
Is that going to make it worse or better?
If I know I only have two to three terms in the Senate,
I got to make my money fast.
So I understand.
I would love to see
something where they absolutely, not only is there an age cap, but you can't profit at all.
You, you can't make any sort of money.
You, and the fact that when
we already have that for the presidency and that's, you see how that's not
working well, obviously.
We need reforms.
I truly believe that
there are some
places of government that need major reform.
it makes sense to just pull back a little bit and here's the here's what they say besides the oh it takes us a while to get going well you know who's going to run if we have
If the legislature, if we have to have Congress people run every couple terms or their term limits are up and we gotta find new candidates, how are we gonna find new candidates?
There's probably not these, well, there's probably not really corrupt old people anymore.
So you gotta find maybe less corrupt young people, maybe some fresh ideas, maybe start with the top.
Maybe the president, maybe we need to drop, we definitely need to start.
an age limit on the president.
Sure.
Right, right now.
There's already an
age when, where they
have to be to run,
right?
Right, you gotta be 35 to run.
So if you gotta be 35 to run, I think you gotta retire at, and it's gonna be, see, and I know the other argument, there's going to be some people here who are 75, 80, maybe they're listening to us and they're, I'm still really sharp, I can make decisions.
Yes, you can, but I want you to go and sit with all your friends.
Are all your other 80 year old friends as
able to make those decisions.
I'm going to guarantee no.
So the exception cannot be the rule here.
The rule has to be the rule.
There's also a physical toll that being president of the United States takes on somebody, right?
Yes.
You look at how, like, Barack Obama is a perfect example, OK?
Here's the first one that popped into my mind.
I hate to always bring him up, but you look at how young and vibrant and jovial he looked in 2008 when he was elected, you know, making that big speech from Chicago.
to his very last day in office, and I get it's eight years, but it is a hard job.
It is not easy.
Well, if you're doing it right, it's a hard job.
Well, yes, that's what I was going to say.
So it's supposed to be a hard job, and I think two terms for a president, that's fine.
Yes.
I think when you're doing the Senate, two terms is...
plenty that's still that gives you over a decade if you can win years it's 12 years that's enough now it's time for somebody else to come in you don't get to you don't get to belly up get in a district and then just stay there hoping that you never you know because you spend all your time campaigning
Right.
Well, that's what they do.
Or not.
Because you just
assume that you're just going to be in that role because you've been there for so long.
And here's the thing.
Could it be because your district's been juring me?
Well, there you go.
And
that's exactly what
it
is.
All
right.
And I think what is fascinating about what you just said, Brian, is that this isn't just about their age.
It also becomes about perspective.
I mean, things change when you've been in office for as long as Grassley has, representing Iowa.
Technology, housing, student debt, workforce.
All of those things shape how the people you represent live, and people in Washington don't keep up with that, right?
They're not keeping up
with that.
No, you think Chuck Grassley knows how much a gallon of milk is or how much gas is.
You think Chuck Grassley's ever had to go out and try to, most of them never had to try to find a real job.
Right.
Oh well, unemployment's low, it's only 3%.
Yeah, Chuck, get out there and try to find a job at 3%, no matter how qualified you are, whether it's a minimum wage position or something more advanced.
Try to find a job after you're 50, Chuck.
You're not going to have any luck doing it.
And the weird part about this, another I said that older people and young people both supported, Gen X had the highest level of support for both term and age limits.
And those are, again, if you're not familiar, late 40s to early 60s.
So people who would be
uh affected by this age cap the most are the ones saying yes we everybody can see it everybody knows it you can make all the arguments you want but it just comes down perspective is a great point uh just physical ability is a great point cognitive i don't care how sharp you are there is always some level of cognitive decline some it's very minor some it's very major uh we could we've seen it before
We were seeing it.
I believe a little bit now But it's Come on, right.
It's a hard job.
You shouldn't be dropping somebody in there who?
You know has to worry if they've had their metamucilus
We have several people chiming in on social media and on our text line this morning.
John from Oshkosh listening on WISS says maybe an income limit on who can run.
If you're a multi-millionaire or billionaire, you should be barred from making policy you profit from.
And he also agrees there definitely should be an age cap.
Alicia says she agrees with the age cap and the money cap.
Thank you for texting in on our YouTube chat this morning.
Chad also over on YouTube saying, yes, we should have an age cap.
Keith saying reforms formulated by the very people that need to be reformed.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
clear.
When
I say
reforms, we're probably going to need some sort of commission that is put in by a different administration and perhaps when there are more adults in the room from both sides of the party where they can actually come to some sort of agreement.
I mean, I didn't say reforms are going to happen overnight.
I believe
they
should, but it is going to take...
Where do you put the age?
Where do you put the... What's your cap?
For my cap?
What's your cap for?
Do we have the same cap for president and Congress or do we have floating caps?
I would say it would for me personally I would probably cap it at somewhere between 65 and 70 because as you pointed out if you're 70 you get elected you're done in six years you're 76 you're almost pushing 80 at that point if
you're a
senator.
I would like to see it at around 65 because that still takes you out of office and put somebody with fresh ideas perhaps younger and when you're in still in your early 70s and for a lot of people you could still go out you could still do things you could still work because I get you know some
people in their early 70s.
So I think about it like that, but 65, man, I don't
know.
I'll kick it to 70.
Okay.
Where you have to be, where you have to be, if you're running for Senate, you know, if you're, you know, if you're at that age, you're only going to get to run for one term.
So I'll go 70 is the 70 is the out the door.
Yep.
So, you know, president, you got to be, if you got to run it's 62 is the last one.
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Thank you so much for joining us this morning.
We hope you are having a great start to your Friday.
My name is Jamie Martinson.
And good morning.
I'm Brian Noonan.
Are you getting ready to adopt a Beagle pup?
855-755-CIVIC, 855-755-248-42.
This story now, we've been following it with all the protests at Ridgeland Farms and the agreement that they made last week to sell roughly 1,500 beagles to rescue organizations, shelters and rescues.
Now the new story is all over the country.
People are waiting coast to coast to rescue some of these beagles.
None of them are available for adoption in Wisconsin yet.
Local shelters are saying just be patient.
It's coming.
They're coming.
These dogs will be out there howling at the moons and making all kinds of noise soon enough.
But the Humane Animal Welfare Society of Waukesha County, known as HAWS, expects up to 20 dogs to arrive the week of May 11.
So that's Monday.
So next week, they're going to get there.
The Dane County Humane Society is also preparing.
They're going to get 50 of these.
They're going to help facilitate the transfer, and they're going to get about 50 of the dogs.
The animal shelter pause in Chicago is also taking 25 of the beagles, so they're going to be out there.
Some, or none, as of yesterday, none had been made available for adoption in the Wisconsin area yet because, well...
There's gonna be some rehab, right?
They have to decompress these dogs.
They have to learn to be dogs.
They have to learn to be dogs.
I think that's been my favorite part of watching these beagles be rescued and all of the different facilities across the country because there are some facilities in the south, there's some in Florida on the east coast in California that have taken some of these dogs.
And I think that's my favorite part is
watching them when they have these videos of the first time they
do
hit those play areas or they actually get to interact with one another and
with humans.
Yeah, they're running around.
It is fun to see.
It is fun to see them do
that.
If you have any sort of heart whatsoever, you have to be touched.
I don't care if you love animals, don't love animals.
If you have any sort of heart for living things, you have to be excited to see these beagles actually feel like, see for the first time what it feels like to be a dog.
dog,
right?
Get to walk on grass.
They've only been in cages.
So they're getting, even to walk just on the sidewalk and then to go into grass and go, wow, what is this?
And
like you said, to interact with other dogs who they've only seen through cages and then have people to just play with rather than.
Yeah.
You know
so there's gonna there's from what I've understood and seen from other shelters You mentioned it the rehab process for these dogs is probably for some of them gonna be a little bit more extensive than others depending on age and what their circumstances were But essentially they're learning how to be with people they're learning how to sleep in a house I was watching a video the other day on social media of a foster who got two of these beagles from from
this
facility and they
they wouldn't sleep in their cozy little beds.
They'd never had that before.
They don't know what the cozy fluffy beds are.
So they're still laying on the tile floor and on the hardwood and they're trying to coax them and teach them that these are your toys.
It's okay, you can sleep
in
this bed.
You eat out of this bowl over here now.
There's not just food thrown at you or however, you know, because it's all so new to these
dogs.
So it's
gonna be cool.
It's almost like when you get a brand new puppy, you have to teach them everything, sounds around the house, how to work stairs.
I remember getting, you know, a couple of the dogs we got were very, very young when we adopted them.
And stairs were like, ah, they just stared at either the top or the, and even if they got to the top, then they couldn't figure out how to get to the bottom.
And they just stared at the top of the stairs, whining like, hey, I don't know how to do this.
But yeah, they're
So these are, and these are older, not seniors.
We don't, all different ages, but so they, now they have to learn all that stuff that by now you've probably learned if you have a dog.
If you've listened to
this show before, you've maybe heard me mention that at one point I volunteered at an animal shelter and I got to be part of the off-boarding process, off-boarding meaning as they come into the facility and we literally take them out of their kennels and, and
you know, start the process of checking them in, getting the vets involved.
So I've been involved in those processes and then being in the office as we, as those facilities try to figure out where those animals are going to go, what foster is going to be best for that particular circumstance.
Some of them have medical issues, so you need a different foster.
Some of them are younger, so you need a different foster.
So I've been part of that and
One of the things that I will say is even with dogs coming out of circumstances like this, and I've been part of that off-boarding for beagles out of medical facilities and labs.
The thing that always struck me is, beagles are so loving anyway.
And that's part of the reason why beagles get wrapped up into the science of all of it, because they are so trusting.
They are so loving.
They are very compliant dogs.
But I remember there would be times we'd take them out of their kennels and they're scared and they're shaking and we'd have blankets and we'd wrap them up.
And as soon as they felt that love, they would just melt into your chest, right?
Like they would put
their head- Yeah, they'd finally feel safe.
Yep.
They'd put their heads on our shoulders and they would just melt into us to the point
where it was hard to give them over because you just wanted to continue to hold them because that's all they've ever wanted.
They never felt it.
And all of a sudden they had all this love and people were pouring it onto them.
And it was always just the most amazing feeling.
And so I really have enjoyed the circumstances.
I get it.
I didn't love the circumstances surrounding it.
Watching these dogs though now learn how to be dogs and be part of families is what's really, really awesome.
Cause I've got to see the start of that.
Let's just hope they all get adopted and I know people I know in the immediate aftermath of the story there's a lot of excitement people are oh we gotta yes this is how we gotta do it we're gonna we're gonna adopt all these dogs there's a lot of dogs out there I'm a big adopt don't
shop
guy when it comes to dogs so.
If you're thinking of one of these beagles and you can't get one of these beagles, your shelters are probably full of really cool dogs
that
would be just as good as a beagle and need to be rescued just as much as these beagles.
So that's my little soapbox to say, hey, if you're thinking about a dog, I know there's a nice status when you get this purebred dog.
Muts are really, really cool.
All right, when we come back, it's the top of the hour.
And that means stuff you need to know, and we will get to it.
Big story out of UW Madison.
And so much more.
I'm Brian Noonan.
This is Daybreak.
I'm Jamie Martinson, 659, and you are listening to the Civic Media Network.
We move on to the last two segments of the first hour of the Civic Media Spotlight.
We stay right here with Daybreak with Brian and Jamie.
No, the US Navy does not have kamikaze dolphins.
And yes, that is an official statement from the military leaders.
But what does the Navy use dolphins for?
Brian and Jamie will tell you all about it.
Good morning.
Thank you so much for joining us today on the Civic Media Network.
It is 8.35 right now.
My name is Jamie Martinson.
And good morning.
I'm Brian Noonan.
In May of 2020, David Crowley became the youngest county executive in the history of Milwaukee County and the first black leader elected to serve in that role.
Then on April 2nd, 2024, county executive Crowley was re-elected to a second term with 85% of the vote.
Well, now he's running for governor in a crowded Democratic field on a platform of what he calls Badger Basics.
David Crowley joins us now to share some details of his plans.
Mr. Crowley, thank you for being here.
We appreciate it.
For people outside of Milwaukee County who are just getting to know you during the campaign, give us a Cliff Notes version of who David Crowley is and why you're running for governor.
Absolutely.
First and foremost, thank you for allowing me to join both of you, Brian and Jamie.
I'm really glad to be here.
But just to give folks a quick background, David Crowley, I am a husband.
I always have to give my better three quarters a shout out.
I am a girl dad times three.
Um, you know, we call them the A-Squad, Alyssa, Ava, and Autumn.
And I've been serving as the county executive for the past six years, but I also spent seven years in the state capital as a staffer and as a state representative and Whisco boy through and through, but also have my share of challenges, right?
I was evicted three times before graduating high school.
Every single year for at least 15 years, we moved
And if it wasn't for our public education system, as well as AmeriCorps and youth development organization, I wouldn't be standing in front of you today.
So it's been an opportunity and a great opportunity to serve the residents here within Milwaukee County and looking forward to serving the entire state of Wisconsin.
So let's take that experience of growing up in Milwaukee and talk about the Badger Basics because it essentially focuses on affordability, care, opportunity.
And when people hear that, it sounds like this broad plan, right?
So what are some of the concrete changes that you would deliver so that families actually feel a difference with life in Wisconsin?
Well, I think it's important that when you have an elected leader that they also understand the issues on the ground and I think about my background my experience It's about how do we create a much better foundation for families?
And if folks are going to say this is too much that we haven't been doing enough for families at all here in the state of Wisconsin And so this is really about how do we become a healthy community and health isn't just
you know, you're meant to in physical health.
Health is more money in your pocket.
Health is having an affordable roof over your head.
Health is having access to public transit, to public education, to health care, child care.
And so we want to make sure that we're bringing that foundation across the entire state so that when the tide rise, the boat rise for every single community member.
Now, again, one of the platforms is affordability and one of the things you've worked hard on in Milwaukee County is safe and affordable housing.
Outside of Milwaukee County, how do you see that as Wisconsin as a whole and how do you see it coming to fruition if you are in fact elected governor?
Well, what's unique in my current position is that, you know, we've been able to build affordable housing all across Milwaukee County.
It was unique.
is that it's all happening in suburban communities, communities that never had these types of projects before.
And that's because we all should understand that affordable housing, attainable housing, isn't just needed in urban centers.
It's needed in suburban communities and rural communities, not just in Wisconsin, but let's face it, across the entire country right now, especially with the rise of housing prices and rents.
And so in order to do this across the entire state, one, we need to make sure that we are right sizing the solutions to fit each community's needs.
There is not a one-size-fits-all for the state of Wisconsin.
And so working with local municipalities to create more zoning flexibility or more accessible dwelling units to have that level of density, but also making sure that there are resources available, you know, first-time homebuyer assistance,
for individuals.
And it's really working with the Wisconsin Housing Economic Development Authority and leveraging those dollars at the state level as well as at the federal level and working with those local municipalities to create more opportunities.
This can help with our aging population.
This can help with many of our students who have left their communities to go to school and looking to move back to be closer to their family.
And so this is a real opportunity for us to focus on making sure that it's not just affordable
attainable because there are individuals who can afford to buy a home yet there's not enough supply in communities where they are looking to actually live.
We're talking with David Crawley this morning.
He is currently the Milwaukee County Executive.
He's also a Democratic gubernatorial candidate.
You can check out more about Badger Basics over at crawley4wi.com.
Now, as far as talking about affordability, energy costs, and we were talking about this prior to the show, if anybody
was
listening on the stream, you're asking large users like these data centers that we're hearing so much about across the state to pay for the grid upgrades.
What does that look like in practice, Mr. Crawley?
And how do we actually ensure that everyday folks don't end up covering some of these costs anyway?
Well, we should all one be frustrated that the Wisconsin State Legislature literally left session without actually putting a framework in place Right to protect not just people but to protect our natural resources protect our water our land and making sure that there's a framework But in reality one we just recently seen that there was a PSC rate case with we energies saying that they're going to pay 100% of the tariff right and so you know if they want to be here they have to actually negotiate with us and so if we're going to
to have a framework.
It should be the most strict framework that we have in the entire country.
Not just 100% of the energy uses, but the upgrades to the infrastructure, the upgrades to the grid, but more importantly,
bringing on more clean energy infrastructure.
The best energy is the energy that we don't have to pay for.
And that comes from solar.
It also comes from wind.
And so we want to see how we can leverage this to actually stabilize and make sure that our energy is reliable for every single user across the state of Wisconsin.
But they're also going to pay into focus on energy, which we all pay into to bring on more clean energy infrastructure.
Well, if there is an excess of dollars there, I truly believe that we should be using that to pay down the rates of every single utility rate payer here in the state, because the community benefits shouldn't just be in the communities that these data centers are in.
It should be a community benefit for every single municipality in
Wisconsin.
be remiss if I didn't ask you about this.
There was a lot of news last week about a memo that was leaked reportedly from the Tom Tiffany campaign.
It was referencing one of your opponents in the race.
How do you react to that whole story?
Do we lose audio?
Do we
have you still Mr.
Crawley?
Can you hear me?
We can hear you.
I couldn't hear you,
Brian.
Okay.
So last week, there was a big, big news story about this report, this memo that was reportedly leaked from the Tiffany campaign.
It was about one of your opponents.
How do you react to that whole, that whole thing?
Still kept.
I'm sorry.
I'm having bad connection issues.
Oh, no worries.
Can
you hear us at
all?
Can you hear us now?
Yes?
No?
Uh-oh, bring up the memo and big technology.
It's a big technology taking us out Parker.
What are you?
Oh, we're coming.
Are you back?
No, I was laughing take take mr. Crawley off see if you can see if you can get him
fixed up.
David Crawley is our guest.
Crawley4WI.com.
Another coincidence, Jamie.
It was a weird coincidence.
I don't
believe in coincidences.
You know this.
And it wasn't even, it wasn't, you know, no gotcha.
I do have, I do have the weird question writing.
You do
have the weird
question.
All right.
The things that
sometimes you don't know about your elected officials.
The human question that they have no idea.
Because, you know,
we also have to.
Again, not a gotcha.
Just a fun little thing.
We always
have to remember our
elected officials are also human.
So it's fun to find that human side of them once in a while as well.
Yes.
Girl
dad he is a girl dad.
He
is a little update.
What's going on, buddy?
Looked like he just hopped out of the studio.
I'm trying to get him connected
with our fine.
All right.
All right.
We will be
great.
It will keep padding.
We will.
But yes, it's it is like as I looked at David Crowley's website and looked at his plan, it all seems.
based on what we talk about all the time, and I'm sure a lot of the candidates are going to talk to the people about the issues that mattered to them the most.
I think we have David Crawley back.
Can you hear us now, sir?
No?
No.
No audio.
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right.
It's all right.
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make it work.
I'm going to try this question again, because I think someone is conspiring against us to get this answer.
The memo that was released reportedly from Tom Tiffany's campaign about one of your opponents.
How do you react to that whole story?
What was the story?
I'm sorry.
The story about
the memo about Francesca Hong, that Tom Tiffany's the alleged leak from from that office.
How did you respond to that?
What were your feelings about it when you started hearing this story?
I mean, the way that I respond to that, I think is that, you know, every candidate is going to do everything that they can to focus on who they want to be able to run after.
But also, you know, they have always been focused on
different types of candidates.
They've attacked me in different types of ways.
They've attacked other candidates in many different types of ways.
But my focus is really running my campaign.
This is about how we talk to voters all across the state of Wisconsin.
Not just about the promises that we want to deliver for them, but it's also about making sure that we can actually do the work.
And when I think about me being in this race, it's about focusing on the results that we have delivered for every single community.
And David what are the I mean along those lines?
This is a really crowded primary right for on the Democratic side Tom Tiffany obviously been the frontrunner for the Republicans for a while now And with so many undecided voters, I'm going to assume that it's going to You know be more crossing the state talking to more people But how do how do you really reach out to those undecided voters right now as as the
his primary approaches?
Well, I mean, as you pointed out, the only person leading in the polls are undecided voters.
And we have to go and really reach and talk to people.
And it's not, you know, when people say, you know, I want to be there for it's not just about physically being there.
It's about making sure that people actually have a seat at the table to lend their voices to the solution is going to work for their communities.
I've always been told, especially as an organizer that
If you're not at the table, then you're on the menu.
And there are many communities all across the state of Wisconsin that feel like they've been dictated to versus giving them a seat.
to be able to talk about the issues that are directly impacting them.
And so the way that we do this is, you know, I still have my day job running Milwaukee County, but we are crisscrossing all over the state, taking the scenic route to talk to as many people as possible, doing different town halls, talking to different party members.
And quite frankly, you know, the message is absolutely catching fire.
And as we talk and engage with more voters, more and more people are paying attention to the Crowley campaign.
And if you want to learn more about David Crowley's
Campaign the bad badger basics and all the rest.
It's crawly for wisconsin.com.
All right, David before we let you go We got about a minute left a question that came up on the show yesterday not political at all or is it?
What's your most hated sports franchise?
My most aerial Your most hated sports franchise.
Who do you say my most what hated sports franchise?
My most hated sports franchise.
Well, you know, I am I am a packer
And so, I can't stand the Chicago
Bears.
All right,
fair
enough.
That answer came up a lot yesterday
on the show.
Thank you
for being honest.
No hard feelings.
David Crowley is a current Milwaukee County executive.
He is running for governor of the state of Wisconsin on the Democratic ticket.
Go to Crowley4WI.com to get all his information.
David, thanks for joining us this morning.
Have a great rest of your day.
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Lake Superior to Lake Michigan.
This is Wisconsin's morning conversation.
Daybreak with Brian and
Jamie.
It's 8.52 right now.
Thank you so much for joining us this morning.
We do appreciate it.
That's a great song, Parker.
Nicely done.
I feel like a dolphin when I hear this.
We'll surf music.
Yeah.
I feel like, why does it make you feel like a dolphin?
Do I want to know?
Yeah, you do.
Okay.
Gives dolphin
vibes.
If you don't, I do,
so.
Okay,
all right.
I feel like I'm jumping out of the waves.
There you
go, there you go.
Really?
Yeah,
right?
Yeah.
Nice tie-in.
I always feel like I'm in Pulp Fiction.
There
you go.
That's true.
It's a good song.
It's a good song.
So here's the question.
Are military dolphins working in the Strait of Hormuz?
There was a movie back in the day about bombs being strapped to dolphins and stuff.
So it's not far-fetched.
And the answer is, well, probably not.
But the US Navy has been using dolphins
Oh, we've enlisted Flipper.
He also doesn't have an exit strategy for this war, but we've been using them for decades.
So yesterday our Secretary of Defense, Whiskey Pete Hankseth, was asked whether Iran might turn to dolphins to help confront the US Navy.
Now, I don't know if dolphins have nationalities.
I don't know if dolphins
would be loyal to Iran over the US.
I don't know anything about that, but according to, according to whiskey Pete, he said he could confirm that Iran did not have dolphins.
Oh, this is the most serious administration ever.
How do you confirm that they don't have dolphins to deploy as part of the operations?
He said he would neither confirm nor deny whether we have kamikaze dolphins.
This is true, folks.
I wish I was making this up.
Because I'd sell this script and it would be great.
This feels like something that should be on the front page of the Enquirer.
Like does it not like
Pete Hexeth cannot confirm or deny the existence of kamikaze dolphins
what it feels like
This is a real
story though.
We're having a real conversation this morning, which I don't know Maybe that should scare me even more.
I'm not sure but
no you should be this is from CNN so Depending on your frame of reference a reputable news source RIP Ted Turner, but yeah the So first of all
Like, could we just say, if we don't have kamikaze dolphins, are you really tipping your hand in military strategy to go, no, of course we don't have kamikaze dolphins.
No.
We have sniper gorillas, but we do not have kamikaze dolphins.
Well.
One source familiar with U.S.
operations in the Strait of Hormuz told CNN that the U.S.
military is not using dolphins as part of its efforts on the Strait, but they are cute as hell.
No, wait, that was me editorializing.
The U.S.
Navy does, in fact, have a decades-old program to train dolphins to help detect mines.
It's called the Marine Mammal Program.
It's part of the Intelligence Surveillance and Reconnaissance Department within Naval Information Warfare Center Pacific.
Which I think is fascinating.
I
think that part is
fascinating.
What I love about this is that the department though,
It had to be made clear that these dolphins are not actually kamikaze dolphins, in that they do not sacrifice their lives to go out and detonate mines.
Instead, they're focused on detection.
They had to make this clear after Pete Higseth's comments yesterday, and they
had to make sure that
this was put out in an official release that they are not kamikaze dolphins.
We're not strapping a bomb vest.
to flipper and after he comes up and jumps through the hoop and does a couple of flips and splashes.
And he talks in
echolocation.
No, we're not actually.
What I also love is that a senior engineer at Rand, who previously worked in the now decommissioned US Navy mine warfare command, told CNN this quote.
We use marine mammals to help detect objects underwater and to protect ports by detecting intruders So it's not the day of the dolphin
That's the film that I was referencing where they did strap bombs to dolphins and they were now Porpoises on the other hand we will sacrifice all the porpoises dolphins no
porpoises because porpoises let's be honest more streamlined more in keeping with a torpedo so you could shoot a porpoise out of a uh out of a warship with a bomb and it would go and then boom and the great thing about porpoise bombs they flip right up onto the deck so they do the optimal amount of damage when you shoot them at an enemy.
Does it make you feel better though?
And I know the answer to this.
Does it make you feel better though that we have to put out an official statement on kamikaze dolphins because our Department of Defense, our Secretary of the Department of Defense says that we for sure have kamikaze dolphins.
Does it make
you feel better?
Well, he won't confirm nor, he will neither confirm nor deny Jamie.
So yeah, I'm glad we have responsible scientists.
Once again, these scientists ruining everybody's fun by saying, take a, take a vaccine.
or no, we don't strap bombs to dolphins.
And by the way, this program with dolphins has been around since 1959, and it's focused on training bottlenose dolphins and California sea lions to detect and recover objects underwater.
Now, according to the Marine Mammal Program's webpage, dolphins quote, possess the most sophisticated sonar known to science.
Well, yeah, you have to find your way around underwater
and you use
echolocation to do so.
That's pretty, that's pretty kick butt, let's be honest.
And underwater drones, this is also on the page, are no match for the animal's efforts to open the straight.
So that has to
be put
right on the homepage.
No matter how much cloak and dagger intrigue the Secretary of Defense wants to add to this question, not confirming or denying the existence of kamikaze dolphins, we do not have them.
Sometimes things are just cool and they are what they are.
Yeah, they're just they're just out there.
They can be looking but they're not using them now That's the thing and Iranian dolphins are the same as us dolphins or any dolphin.
They're just out right I've had I've been lucky enough to be on a boat when a pot of dolphin is swimming next to the boat It is the coolest thing in the
world very
cool
All right, listen, on that note, I am going to go work on a kamikaze dolphin program, so I cannot stay here and talk to you any longer.
Your undercover operation.
The show is over.
I am done.
Thank you for listening.
Thanks for being a part of the show.
It's daybreak.
I'm Brian Noonan.
I'm Jamie Martenson.
Thank you so much.
Have a wonderful Thursday.
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