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Yes, there.

What's happening, my friends?

Hey, Tim, it's good to see you, man.

Hey, like you said, T-G-I-B-P-F.

Oh, my gosh.

Can you believe it?

We blinked.

And a whole week went by.

And to tell you the truth, Tim, we blinked a whole week went by.

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It's still summer.

But it's turning to fall soon.

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And I'm going to start with you guys.

I'm going to start with a few more calls.

If you want to recap the week with Tim and I before we get into that Friday

featured, Tim's trivia.

We want to recap with us.

Give us a call 857524842 or hang on.

Because as we've come to love here on Busted Pencils, my guy Tim,

yeah,

Tim, I can't wait.

I've been waiting since last Friday.

So just spill the beans.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

So a little different here.

This is in the form of a riddle tonight.

Oh, a riddle.

Yes.

In the form of a riddle tonight.

So this is where we're going to be.

So I'm just going to put the riddle out there right now.

What of Oppenheimer was lost in Georgia?

What of Oppenheimer was lost in Georgia?

It's a riddle man.

And there's a really cool trivia.

When you figure this riddle out, we're going to be here.

We're going to put it out there.

But what of Oppenheimer was lost in Georgia?

That's the riddle.

But there's a cool trivia behind their Johnny.

So very, very, very, you know, thought about this one.

And I'm like, okay, I like this idea because it's, again, a cool story.

And it's one of those ones about who knew who knew?

Well, before that, before we leave at the bottom of the half hour,

we're going to know because Johnny, here's the thing too.

I'm going to spend anybody watching.

I'm on location man at a castle.

Yeah, you are.

You are a man on the ground covering education all through the Midwest.

Tim, I think you've been in a different big Midwestern blue collar city.

Every time I've talked to you in the last couple of weeks, it's, you know, it's been a new stop.

So love that you're getting that coverage and getting that temperature.

Figuratively and literally of politics in this country, man.

And what's what's the, what's the situation for teachers?

I tell you what though, beautiful.

So I just let everybody know I'm in Kalamazoo, Michigan.

I'm at the Henderson castle.

Look it up.

A lot of, a lot of American history trivia there.

Henderson Castle and Kalamazoo, Michigan.

Going to be having some conversations with some really, really important people.

One, well, actually both who have been on the show.

Jillian Vasquez.

Jillian Vasquez.

Billian Vasquez.

Highlight.

The Provost at Western Michigan University in Jason Glass.

The Vice President of Teaching and Learning at Western Michigan University.

I am going to be here having some conversation.

Johnny about artificial intelligence and teaching and learning.

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And what a week though.

TGIBPF.

Thank God it's busted pencils Friday.

All week.

I love the,

you know,

great show again.

Looking at everything that we have there.

I love that,

the Dr and Nancy Carols in page went with that whole weird thing.

The fact that you know Tim walsh our new,

but future.

Our new future vice president.

Go ahead, Johnny.

What Tim will let our listeners know because if they listen to on Monday,

they've got a little sneak that too.

Tim, you actually teed that up for both Nancy and I the week before.

Yeah.

You know,

Tim walsh and the others had said, you know,

it's a, it's a bit weird.

And we, we,

we've since then gotten to the root of what the,

what the choice of using the word weird is.

And we looked at it from kind of all angles.

And,

and both Nancy and I were like,

okay, Tim,

Tim brought this up.

All right.

and here's where we're at with it.

And that man was a great conversation.

It's always a great conversation with Dr.

Nancy Carlson page.

But man,

we opened a banger of a week with a fabulous guest.

I mean, yes, she's on monthly.

Yes, listeners.

If you're not familiar once a month,

you got to make sure you at least tune in to what would Matt Damon's mom say.

And it's a great opportunity for the,

for the amazing.

Dr. Nancy Carlson page two,

you know, share wisdom with our listeners and with us, Tim.

And she sure did this week.

We talked about how important it is to model professional ethics,

which was the theme from 20 lessons from the 20th century from last week.

But man, we were talking about, you know,

how it's important to be different,

how it's important to embrace difference,

the very fabric of democracy,

to value quality and diversity.

But also to just say it's a bit strange.

And I had to even push the little bit harder to say it's,

it's hurtful, harmful, destructive, right?

Vitrio.

There's a whole lot of adjectives that I think I guess we mean by,

by, by weird, we don't have to, you know,

put down difference to do that.

So it was a good show.

And we really talked as, of course,

you have an expert in early childhood add on,

it's going to bring it back to classrooms.

And she was talking about all that great work that teachers do with young people

to really practice democracy,

to really practice how we listen to one another

and be in charge of,

and this links to Wednesday's show where educators amplified,

you know, really connected the dots on joy and regulation.

But Dr. Nancy Carlson,

Paige reminded us that young people are working and practicing and learning

all the time in their classrooms, right,

to listen and to be mindful and choose words,

especially words when we're communicating our needs,

and we're practicing how we disagree with one another

and learn how we agree.

So that was really special.

I mean, it's always great to have Dr. Nancy Carlson,

Paige, on talking about the moment we're in.

And she gives a lot of context to that.

So I was excited.

She also spotlighted Gen Z voters,

who are getting a lot of attention on busted pencils,

because we're inspired by your energy and the message,

your sending, Gen Z here is appreciate that.

But Tim, man, what a banger of a show on Monday.

Woo!

Awesome, awesome stuff.

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Man, Tim's trivia though, Johnny.

Yeah, let's do it again.

Yeah, it's a riddle.

It's a riddle, everybody.

What of Oppenheimer was lost in Georgia?

What of Oppenheimer was lost in Georgia,

putting it in a riddle today?

Awesome kind of things that we're going to be bringing up right now.

And actually just pulled up the text there.

You guys need me.

Yeah, Tim, I was going to ask you,

can you take for our stream viewers and for our listeners,

you take a sound a little bit of a tour,

and we're going to mute you while you relocate.

But I'm going to repeat Tim's trivia for folks.

In case, in case you're getting some background noise

or it's choppy for you, Tim's trivia this week is,

what did Oppenheimer,

what did Oppenheimer lose in Georgia?

I'm so confused.

Did I repeat that correctly, Justin Tim?

I think he put it into the passive.

What of Oppenheimer's was lost in Georgia?

I don't know if that makes a difference.

I think it's a riddle.

So language matters.

Remember, that's a theme of the week.

Language does matter.

These are words wise.

What of Oppenheimer was lost in Georgia?

There it is.

What of Oppenheimer's was lost in Georgia?

I'm taking a stroll on the grounds.

Do I sound better right now, guys?

You sure do.

All right.

So yeah, what of Oppenheimer's was lost in Georgia?

Form of riddle, Tim's trivia.

Good interesting stuff.

It is.

Yeah, busted pencils.

And got a caller Joanne on the phone already.

Yeah.

All right.

Caller Joanne.

What's happening, our friend?

Oh, great.

I got it.

It's not about the riddle yet.

I just got it.

But what I'd like to do is talk just for a minute about the week.

The week was so amazing.

And I was thinking about it all afternoon.

How much you were able to cover in just about politics.

And I was just a little worried because with all the young people thinking about politics now.

And maybe, you know, can I run for office?

You know, whatever they are, if they're black, white, big, strong, short, and tiny, whatever.

Doesn't make any difference anymore that it's open to them.

But what I'm a little worried about is the slining of some of the candidates that's going on right now.

And the picking a part of the amazing 24-year career in the National Guard of some of the candidates.

I know that LA Tom has called in some of the radio shows about this.

I listened to other shows on this wonderful station and stated his dismay about what a downer it is.

Again, we have to vet candidates.

Yeah, we've got to make sure that they're not enhancing resumes.

But after this joy and the amazing power of this week, we'll be spending the weekend on all the talk shows and all of that.

You know, in the minutia, and there's more to come.

I mean, I know for a fact there's going to be more to come.

Taking apart the voting records or whatever and mischaracterizing various things.

The name calling and whatever.

People who don't know what socialism is and Marxism saying, you know, saying those words.

For me, it's Groucho Marxism. It's always been Groucho.

So, thank you again for the wonderful week.

I mean, you did so much and brought in the luminaries from all over.

Thank you again.

Oh, man.

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We love caller Joanne.

We'll get back to that listener. Stay tuned.

But after this sky, no longer blue.

We bring the dawn on our own.

Until we drown.

And we drown.

And we drown.

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It's G G I B P F.

That's right. Thank goodness it's busted pencils Friday.

This is Dr. Johnny Lupinachi with Dr. Tim Slecker.

And just on the boards.

Dr. Tim Slecker on site over in Kalamazoo, Michigan.

One of our one of our favorite spots.

I mean, I spent some undergraduate years there.

And then also we have some amazing guests from not only to grow your own program,

but just the awesome work that's happening over at Western Michigan University.

And Dr. Tim Slecker's on site there.

Nice.

This Friday to recap the week.

We just had caller Joanne on the phone.

Reminding us as LA Tom does, you know, to be patient through the scrutiny of candidates.

Also as a theme of last week, remember professional ethics, right?

And remember the importance of, you know, being, you know, diligent about scrutiny of candidates,

but also being open with information and actually contrasting, right?

And actually bracing ourselves for a real ugly election.

I mean, we can't expect that because one ticket is very joyful.

It's very matter of fact has a clean record in terms of when we want to look at whether or not they have any criminal elements to their to their leadership that they're bringing.

No, you know, and so I think it's important to contrast honesty and and transparent information is going to always expose things that we may or may not agree with.

That's okay. That's part of politics. That's part of it.

There is no perfect candidate.

So let's brace ourselves for some of those things.

And of course, I think it's pretty low.

And I, and I'm not surprised by it.

By people on the opposition to Harris waltz ticket to bring up some of the perspectives or thoughts against walls, especially around his military service.

Yeah, get into what kind of military service constitute service.

Okay.

That's a different conversation.

For me, matter of fact, and I think for a lot of us, it's important to serve in a number of capacities.

And so his service in the National Guard is honorable to me.

At the transparency he has around some of the, some of the things the aspects of it being brought up.

I think also models good leadership.

Yes.

I chose to retire retire at a particular moment.

That is his liberty and his choice.

He also never has stopped being a supporter or a person in service in a political capacity.

So I'm very optimistic that even as things go low,

what the Harris waltz ticket and that us as supporters of that ticket, remember to embrace facts and contrast and ask ourselves, what kind of leader do we want?

So I'm really hopeful about that. Thank you, Joanne.

Yeah, it was a busy week.

We covered a lot.

And we're on a special Friday.

You know, Fridays are always special.

We got a lot of things that we always hit on Friday.

Besides just recapping the week.

And I'm going to loop us back around to Tim's trivia because it has just a nice stumped repeated for folks.

Tim selectors trivia this week.

Tim's trivia.

Tim said.

What?

Oh, you want to say it for us.

Yeah.

What if I get what of Oppenheimer's was lost in Georgia and maybe we'll throw another hint out there as we're getting close.

Maybe not in Georgia, but maybe off the coast of Georgia.

What of Oppenheimer's was lost off the coast of Georgia?

Putting that out there, Johnny.

There it is.

Johnny and Jess.

I know I've got you stumped.

I can see that somebody's getting close in there by reading the notes that we're getting in there.

Getting close to where it is.

Yeah, there's probably something there.

And I said, you know, kind of piece these together.

Think about Oppenheimer.

Okay.

What does that?

Now off the coast of Georgia.

Okay.

Put that together.

There you go.

You know what though?

I wanted to comment to the Johnny on the.

Yeah.

The attack on walls.

Military service.

I was reading today, though, you know, where this attack is coming from.

These are the architects.

I don't have the name right now in front of me.

That put together the swiftboat attack campaign on John Kerry.

Yeah.

That really actually did.

And you know, because at that point, Kerry was winning in the polls.

And that swiftboat controversy really tore him down.

And he started to sink in the polls.

I don't see that happening now.

It is that same type of playing of saying, you know,

again, we're really trying to dishonor something that in this sense is honorable 24 years in the service.

Okay.

This is not this.

And again, you know, you want to contrast it?

Okay.

Let's contrast it to the other guy who's running for president and his bone spurs and Vietnam.

I mean, you know, I even hate to dig into that conversation.

But we might as well put it out there.

Because the reality is, is that Tim Wall served 24 years, retired.

Nothing wrong with that.

As you said, honorable did his time, did his duty and continued to do it.

And did this everything.

So there's no controversy there.

I think people are digging for things.

And again, you know, why though?

Because the joyful democracy warriors, the joy, the celebration, it is palpable.

And I'm sorry, but the other side feels that.

And they are looking for anything to take away that joy that Jess and Johnny and Tim,

they're looking to torpedo our joy because it really is moving in a direction that it continues to build and swell.

And you talked more and more people, man, it is just something to grab a hold of.

And it really enlightens all of our days.

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The question, Tim's trivia.

What of Oppenheimer's was lost off the coast of Georgia?

Man.

Well, yeah, Tim, I'm glad you brought that up.

And I'm stumped.

So hopefully there's a listener out there who can, who can crack this riddle.

But I'm going to, you know, get back on that too with you.

To me, and I'm glad Tim brought this up.

You know, anybody willing to put on uniformed, you know, to, to take that step to be a part of any aspect of service.

And any of the, whether it's, of the army reserve, any of them, right, whether it's ROTC students, whatever path people are doing.

I think that's honorable.

And I'll extend that to both sides.

You're not going to hear me attack advance for his service.

That else.

I mean, that's just something I think is really important to honor in our, in our country is like the way of our life here.

And, and peace on this planet comes at a, at a sacrifice that so many, but thankfully so many people step up and serve.

And that's not only in the context of war and peace.

That's in the context of, you know, health care.

That's in the context of responding to natural disasters.

That's just important work that helps this planet be a better planet.

So even though I'll have big beefs with JD events and others, I will not attack their service.

That's important.

I appreciate that and I have respect for it.

So I'm glad you brought that up, Tim.

I'm glad Collar Joanne brought up.

Let's stick to contrasting politics and policy.

And let's honor the transparency of this.

It's busted pencils fully let it education talk.

We're stumped on Tim's trivia.

We'll make sure that it's solved before the end of the hour.

Stay tuned.

And we are back.

This is just a mental fully-led education box.

This is Collar Joanne.

We had Dr. Tim selector on.

I had to let him go.

It's a 32nd anniversary.

He's in Kalamazoo, Michigan.

And we're all kinds of meetings and reporting and recording.

Exciting conversations about public education around the Midwest.

Appreciate that work that Dr. Tim selector is doing.

And he joined us via his phone from a castle of some sorts.

He's at in Kalamazoo.

And shared with us, Tim's trivia.

That's a Friday feature every week here on busted pencils.

I'm going to give that what Tim said was a riddle.

Right?

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All around TV, too.

Yeah, all around TV, I'm going to give that to him.

Yeah, I'm going to give him an answers to Tim's trivia.

Yeah.

I'm really excited to go this week.

Because there's a hotel, right?

Yeah.

I'm going to give that to him.

Should I vote over using my зайmусis.

What about pushing Tim?

chuckle a little bit cause that's the flavor of him's trivia.

It's a little bit like,

like dad jokes on Friday.

Remember, listen to him,

a former social studies teacher,

who started all week long,

because both Tim and I teach social studies teachers,

we're social studies educators.

So big, fun week for teachers,

awesome week for social studies teachers.

Biggest week, I would say,

for students and young people,

right, to hear a big shift in the message

that they're mirroring back to politics in this country.

But here it is.

Tim's trivia this week.

Tim's trivia was,

what of Oppenheimers

was lost in Georgia.

And then he offered the clue

off the coast of Georgia.

And I used some deduction and said,

I don't know,

Oppenheimer or something.

I think Oppenheimer,

I think,

a recent big movie.

And I also think,

you know,

unfortunately,

you know, atomic bombs.

And so I'm thinking,

I don't know anything in my trivia of repertoire

or my backpack of random social studies trivia

of Georgia and Oppenheimer.

So this is it.

This is it.

This is in the weeds.

But I will say,

it's not exactly a riddle as Tim offered.

It's more of a,

of a,

do you know a bit of trivia

about what Oppen,

what of Oppenheimers

was lost

off the coast of Georgia.

And so if you have that answer,

text it in or give us a call.

You can call it 8557524842.

And we'll declare you the winner of Tim's trivia this week.

But if not,

we'll reveal the answer later.

But just what a week.

We were a week.

We had Dr. Nancy Carlson,

Paige on Monday.

We got,

we woke up to exciting news.

Oh,

Tuesday was such a good day.

Yeah, right.

And so we were high five

and then breaking down Tim Walls,

you know,

a former educator,

you know,

a human rights champion,

you know,

being named to the,

to the Harris ticket.

So now we have a presidential

and a vice presidential candidate

teamed up

to run for the Democratic Party

against Donald Trump

in JD Vance

and the tone

of everything has shifted.

Yeah.

Things have changed.

And we're in,

we're going to get into a met,

the messiness of this.

And this week's themes was

remember professional ethics.

And I'd like to say,

I think

that Harrison Walls

model really good professional ethics.

And that's something

we've talked about a bit,

especially,

I think,

Collar Joanne,

called in,

it must have been,

even Monday calling in

and talking about how,

oh, no, no, no,

it was Joanna

on Wednesday.

Yeah.

Talking about the modeling

of not just professional ethics,

but modeling how to balance,

joy and seriousness,

but absolutely,

there's such a contrast

that word that we keep coming back to

between the ethics

that we're seeing modeled

on the Republican

ticket and the ethics

that we're now seeing modeled

on the Democratic ticket.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

I mean,

and I,

it really came into focus

with, and as many things do,

with teacher Joanna

and teacher Halley

on Educator's Amplified Wednesday,

when Joanna explained,

you know,

to me,

what I see

is well-regulated leaders.

Yeah.

Amazing.

Yeah.

And I'm just like,

whoa, this is the thing

that Educator's Amplified

is always talking about

is key to good teaching

is listening to young people,

understanding what their needs are

advocating for that,

having confidence

in your experience

and expertise

as a trained teacher

as a public school educator,

you know,

and leading classrooms,

and being leaders in community.

And so that really

brought into focus

the what I was experiencing

in hearing the, you know,

the speeches that

Kamala Harris

and Tim Walls

were giving on their campaign trail this week,

amidst the excitement,

there's also,

I like that you brought it back up,

just contrast.

There's really good,

poignant,

direct,

firm,

clear representation

of important policies

that matter

to any democracy,

but especially,

hopefully,

ought to,

and I think do,

matter to many listeners

out there

and to voters

of all ages.

And so we talked about human rights

and we talked about FDRs,

you know,

economic Bill of Rights

yesterday on the show,

and we talked about the second Bill of Rights,

and how, you know,

these are things

that are not only important to democracy,

but are important to human rights

around the world,

and to have the hope,

right,

that this country

can put its best foot forward

and be among leaders in the world,

that model,

a commitment,

to human rights,

that take very seriously eradicating poverty,

that take very seriously,

that every community

should be a welcoming,

safe community,

no matter who you are,

no matter your race,

no matter your religion,

no matter your identity,

all of those things.

So this is,

this is kind of,

to me,

a model of professional ethics,

which is one of our lessons

from last week's theme,

that we brought into this week,

professional ethics,

and that's one of the things

that Timothy Snyder talks about

in his 20 lessons

from the 20th century,

to be mindful of,

when faced with possible,

rise of authoritarian governments,

and of,

tyranny.

So,

but, you know,

just,

every day,

there it is.

Because every day,

here on Blessed Independence,

we always have a democracy in action,

and Friday can't be any different,

we've got to have a democracy.

We don't know,

we've got to have it.

That's right.

Tonight's democracy in action, though.

It really is going out to everybody,

who is scrutinizing,

you know,

and contrasting these candidates.

And I say that,

reminding folks of professional ethics,

like, you got to do that,

but also,

don't get pulled into the,

you know,

the false arguments

or the distractions around it,

but to value justice.

So, today's democracy in action goes to,

someone like Joanne,

who called in today,

and said,

hey, I'm excited that we're digging into the weeds

on all these candidates.

I love the transparency,

but let's not lose sight of things.

And I really hope that,

that everybody,

even future politicians,

listening and watching,

you know, this race,

this summer,

and into the fall,

you know,

they aren't,

they aren't deterred

from their civic engagement,

because part of being

in a democracy is valuing justice.

All people should be treated fairly

in getting advantages and disadvantages of our country.

No group or person should be favored.

And I think that's really important,

especially with,

with the generation of us

and younger generations,

who are very mindful of the fact that,

we absolutely have a patriarchy problem.

We absolutely have deeply rooted racism in this country.

We have staunch sexism.

That's part of the patriarchy problem.

We have real,

dangerous homophobia

and things like this,

that we need to overcome,

that we need to be better about.

And so,

we should take no candidate at face value, right?

We should be remembering that a core value

of any democracy is justice.

Everybody should be treated fairly.

And so,

I'm excited because I'm going to do my best

to apply professional ethics

and do diligence

be fair about my critique of Trump advance.

Likewise,

I'd be fair about my excitement of Harris and Walls.

Absolutely.

And when I start to do that, though, Jess,

when I really list out

that's back to that important contrast,

I see,

okay,

vice presidential candidates both served.

I appreciate it.

I think that's,

that's a me signifies some capacity for leadership.

Absolutely.

Okay.

Now, I start to look at all the records

and all of the things

and the policies

and the beliefs

that have not only been spoken

but an act been enacted by these candidates.

And so,

I think that's really important.

When I start looking at that,

it's a very different

ticket

when I look at the Trump advance ticket

versus the Harris Walls ticket.

I do see one that supports human rights and humanity.

I see one that,

I see a lot of attention

and support of public education,

potential there.

And the other,

I don't.

I see a lot of destructive,

hurtful,

harmful,

vitriol,

kinds of behaviors

and words.

And those two things are really hard to separate.

So, I'm sticking to that theme,

professional ethics from last week,

carrying it in

because I love a new theme shortly.

But I'm also

it's coming up,

but I also really want to honor

like that importance of justice to a democracy.

Like everybody should be,

no matter who they are,

they should be treated fairly and equally.

And so,

I'm open to that.

And I hope all of us

remember that, especially people who are saying,

well,

I want to run for something someday.

But I can't,

I can't imagine,

you know,

that we would ever have,

you know,

and fill in the blank of that kind of leader.

You betcha we can.

If you're a citizen who's contributing to democracy,

then you're a future candidate for any office in this country.

So, keep up the good work.

Keep representing your community

and sharing your voice

because it's ever important and a democracy.

I don't know.

Just what are you thinking?

Well, I'm thinking more about professional ethics.

We've talked about what it looks like in politics.

We've talked about what it looks like in various other sectors.

But you're an educated educator.

Let's come back to this idea of what do professional ethics

look like in teaching?

We started to touch on it a little bit on Wednesday.

But I want to hear from you some specifics.

What do you think?

What are some general professional ethics of teaching?

Well, I love that.

I love that question, Jess.

And I love that turning the attention to the classroom

and to being a teacher.

Because when we think about the lesson,

20 lessons from the 20th century

from Timothy Snyder's book on on tyranny,

remembering professional ethics

are really focused on leaders setting a good example.

And in particular,

what to do when leaders set a negative example?

To remember that it is our job

in leadership positions to set a positive example.

I think that's one of the most important aspects

or one of the benefits and features of becoming a teacher

is your job all of the time

is to set a great example for future adults in our community.

No matter what age young people are.

And I like to say,

even though there isn't really a Hippocratic oath of teaching,

a lot of teachers listen and this will resonate

with some of the ethics you have in your profession.

We share this.

We sort of take an oath to do no harm,

like medical professionals do.

And in a formal way,

the Hippocratic oath,

but really we take an oath professionally

to be listeners, the children,

to value their experiences,

their differences, their voices,

their learning needs,

to be advocates for them,

to leverage our adult privileges and powers,

to help lift up the next generation

of citizens in our community.

And so that's my description

of professional ethics in the classroom,

of really considering that learning isn't about

knowing and putting it into kids head.

We've talked about that on past show,

the banking model.

It's resisting that, right?

And being present at being a facilitator of learning,

helping to lead spaces, right,

to be a leader in spaces where young people come into knowing

and always both their academic content

and their social experiences.

And so to me,

professional ethics,

then get outlined by democracy.

What are those?

What are those?

What are the ways?

What are the values that we have

in a democratic community,

or microcosms of that,

in a democratic classroom,

which teacher Joanna,

teacher Holly,

teacher educator extraordinaire,

Dr. Nancy Carlson,

page talked about classrooms,

mattering,

and then Tim Walls himself,

saying,

I was inspired to go into politics

because I was listening to my students, right?

That's to me modeling professional ethics as a teacher.

So that's my overarching response to that, Jess.

We got a great conversation going here.

We capped in the week.

We got Tim's trivia.

We got all kinds of stuff.

20 lessons from the 20th century,

all when we come back.

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We have,

on the line, Tim's trivia.

Which is,

what of Oppenheimers was lost in Georgia?

The clue being off the coast of Georgia that Tim added.

So what of Oppenheimers was lost off the coast of Georgia?

I'll leave that open just for a few more minutes.

And I'll close tonight's show with the answer.

Right?

Because I think it's, you know,

it's, it's Tim's trivia.

It's Tim's trivia.

It's Tim's trivia.

It's Tim's trivia.

It's Tim's trivia.

It's Tim's trivia.

It's Tim's trivia.

It is what it is.

I was like, I was overthinking it.

Right?

So listen, if you're overthinking it,

just go with your gut and shoot us a response.

And we'll see where you land.

But just,

we do have a first stab at an answer

from Susan,

texting in from the Madison area.

Susan had sent in nuclear bomb.

No, Susan,

I need you to be a little bit more specific.

Or tell us.

Yeah.

How?

How did a nuclear bomb get lost?

I think it's pretty close there.

So we'll get, we can leave it open for Susan.

Susan's like on the fence here,

because this kind of where I was to,

I was like, I hear Oppenheimer here two things,

a movie,

and nuclear bombs are atomic bombs.

And so I'm,

I'm,

I'm,

I'm,

I like the response.

Thanks, listen to Susan for shooting us that.

But be more specific.

And we'll hold that open just a little bit longer.

But just.

Yeah.

Before we lose any more time.

Every week here.

Every Friday.

We set a theme for the following week.

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Spired by our job.

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What's this?

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