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Johnny Lupinacci, how are you, my friend?
Oh, man, I'm doing well.
You know, it's been getting close to back to school here for me.
So I've been, you know, really organizing and planning and preparing to shift from summer
schedule to you fall full swing next week.
So, you know, it's Thursday.
Excited.
This will be probably one of the, if not the last Thursday, I'll do the show from my home
studio.
Classroom.
Uh-oh.
We're going to have classroom studio maybe next week for sure the week after, but we'll
see.
I was getting concerned there when you said, last, I'm like, wait, wait, hold on, last, last
nothing.
No, it's like, I was going to announce my retirement, and I'm like, whoa, whoa.
Yeah, no, not such thing, just a little shift in venues coming up, because I will be
back in the classroom this fall and in full swing in two weeks and, you know, setting things
up next week.
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You know, speaking of that, listen, Tim and I, we have been going back and forth, back
and forth, and really excited.
Jubilant yesterday with educators amplified, and we've been talking about the excitement
of the Harris Walls ticket.
It doesn't seem to get any less exciting.
So we're going to talk a little bit more about that tonight, and we're going to talk
about that.
On two fronts, one, we've mentioned in the last few shows, an L.A. Tom, one of our regular
callers, listeners out there, you know, you've heard L.A. Tom calling has brought up FDRs,
you know, agenda in the, and it's commitment to, you know, reviving an economy.
And he's brought up FDR-like vibes, says there's a lot of resonance to an FDR era.
And so we're going to talk a little bit about that tonight, we'll do a little social
studies lesson tonight on the economic bill of rights, it's this nerdy official name.
And I like the more colloquial modern version, second bill of rights.
Let's go round to 2.0, baby, second bill of rights.
We'll get into that tonight.
Tim and I, a couple of social studies teachers ourselves, hey, pumped.
So we'll carry that out, but Tim, I got a question for you, man, what we haven't talked
about, and probably you and I and Jess, we've talked off the air about it.
And small talk is an important thing in community.
And this isn't an exactly small talk, I mean, this is, this is social studies talk, this
is geography talk, this is sports talk, when you talk Olympics, and we haven't chopped
it up about the Olympics at all on busted pencils.
And we know Tim, we've said, both of us big sports fans,
both coaches, both interested in, you know, youth programming in this country and really
around the world.
So man, I got to ask you and Jess, like, are you watching the Olympics?
How's it going?
What's your favorite moment or event, Ben, and I got, I got to put it to you this way.
This is the first year that I haven't been able to officially watch because my streaming
service, you know, I don't pay for the peacock, you know,
I just do not pay for the peacock.
So I get my Olympics in news, in spurts, and I got to tell you, I mean, everything,
Simone Biles, you know, watching the field hockey players today, again, going like, how
the heck do they even hit that thing with that tiny little type of, you know, stick?
It doesn't look like the hockey stick I use, Johnny, but man, I got to tell you, you know,
as much as I love all the excitement, all the gold medals, all of this, I love the
little short stories, and I was able to kick catch one of those.
And my favorite one though, I'm telling you is watching Snoop Dogg and Martha Stewart
watching, watching horse dancing.
Yeah, I don't, you know, that's been amazing.
That's so, so joyful.
I know it's just so joyful because I, you just watched this and genuinely watching Snoop
Dogg looking at these dancing horses, which if you watch this, there's an absolute amazement
that a rider with the inner thigh pressures that they put on this to get a horse to do those
different things with their legs, the trotting and stuff like that.
And then him and Martha, it just, it's a wonderful programming bit to just look at, you know,
first of all, two people who you go, Martha Stewart Snoop Dogg, yeah, awesome, awesome
to do, but then truly genuinely appreciating the artistry of horse dancing.
I just feel like that's a moment where I went, yeah, just joyful, joyful again.
There you go, Tim, little known fact, little trivia that I'll just throw out there.
I've terrified horses, I don't really like, I mean, that's what Snoop said, Snoop said
the same thing.
He's like, he's terrified.
I mean, I can watch every time I see a horse, how big they are.
Yeah.
So that's been fun.
And this is reminding me, my kids always give me a hard time about being, you know, less
invested in streaming and services and being a regular TV guy.
And I'm just, I haven't figured out how to make like the who lose and all the things
work for my sports obsessions.
I mean, and so I have, I'm, I'm slow to the, to the coming around on, on, you know,
different services and streams.
I have like as close to terrestrial TV is exists, you know, so I'm like, wait, you don't
have NBC because I mean, I, you just put on NBC any time of day right now.
And if it's not, you know, local news or, or interruption, it's the, it's a, it's a
Olympics and prime time in Paris has been awesome and had seen.
I love, you know, that the whole SNL class or, or at least a big group of them have joined
the announcing, uh, TV and so they're, they're commentating, they're part of the things
that's been great.
I mean, so many moments, I just love sports, uh, you know, and seeing Serbia almost beat
the United States and basketball today to see the USA men's basketball team be pushed
to come from behind, big victory.
I mean, these are huge moments after, you know, decades of dominating and the Olympics
probably even longer than decades, right, since the dream team.
But, uh, so many big moments, women's water polo today going into a double shootout course
they lost.
But I mean, it's just been to see excellence on the stage like that from, from young people
and I, I even considered, I mean, I'm not that old, but I even considered the older group
of really impressive athletes, like Simone Biles, who's, I think, 37 years old.
I mean, impressive what all these people are doing as experts.
That's like, you know, you can see the hard work that they put in and all around the world.
So I also get stoked Tim because I social studies teachers during the Olympics is when
we get to do so much like real time world geography, world geography right there.
Well, cultures, every six grade social studies teacher out there knows, oh man, that's
the curriculum is world, world cultures, you know, and geography.
And so it's exciting to talk about it.
My kids are about tired of the embedded social studies lesson every single time
when the country comes up.
I said, well, do you know what kind of government that country has?
You happen to know, you know, their history, what their capital is.
And they're just like enough already, but it's bad, dad, stop.
I said, you'll thank me later and their eyes go up like, well, we actually later.
But, you know, I love the Olympics, Tim.
I, that's how much though that we haven't been talking about it as much as I love it.
As much as I know you and I talk about sports, this energy around our democracy.
It's connected to this because forms of government certainly are connected to the Olympics.
But, but it's, it's, it's important to talk about the things we've been hitting on.
I mean, we've been excited.
We've just been so excited, you know, and say just coming off and just put it in there.
Yeah, you know, the horse dancing and snoop and Martha made me joyful,
but it's that joyfulness that keeps carrying through the week of realizing
as you said, joining our democracy.
And again, just the switch from Biden to Harris and then Harris now and all the anticipation
of a vice president and then walls making social studies teaching great again,
which is why we're here tonight just celebrating social studies teachers.
But then the week Nancy Carlson Page, Matt Damon's mom, you guys started talking off with weird
and then Tuesday we actually celebrated Waltz as the pick.
And then last night with educators amplified to watch teacher Halle and teacher Joanna say,
wow, I feel like they can catch what's happening.
Man, and then you say, Johnny, the Olympics, I got put in there for the Olympics.
I am always amazed when I quote, see distance runners.
And I think they're sprinting and they're truly distance running.
And I'm like, are you kidding me?
They've been running that that pace for that long.
Oh, it was the pencils, man.
You see how much longer we can keep running when we come back.
Skies, I try to block them out.
I try to shut them down and I try every night.
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It's like, when are we going to get, you know,
Sherry must be in class late tonight again because we didn't get that.
What's up guys from Sherry and Horacon, we're waiting for you, Sherry.
But we'll let you be in class.
I guess Johnny, though, man, coming in, yeah, the Olympics, everything that's happening, Tim Waltz,
those second, you know, social studies teachers, Johnny, that's what we're celebrating,
celebrating social studies, teaching tonight and saying, we are coming into this episode tonight
with a little bit of a social studies lesson, kind of bringing up LA Tom, LA Tom,
reminding us all the time or wanting this whole idea of an FDR Democrat
and making that connection to potentially Tim Waltz and the thing Tim Waltz has been saying.
And Johnny, you kind of positioned that and saying, okay, in fact,
it was a speech at the 1944 state of the union,
where FDR delivered what then was called the economic bill of rights.
And then, as you said now, got turned more into, and more powerfully, maybe the second bill of rights.
You know what though, Johnny, if you were like Bill of Rights, Bill of Rights,
what was the first bill of rights?
I think we've got to start with a little back on, let's back it up, right?
Right? The political rights guaranteed by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, right?
It's really important, you know, things we have to talk about.
But you know what I want to know though, Tim, is like, how far do we want to back it up?
Like we could go talking about it, talking was an Olympic sport.
Well, the Bill of Rights for a really long time, but should we give the really consents?
Yes, the quick, you know, just to recognize it's the first Bill of Rights, too.
And you know, you think about that.
Yeah, those first 10 amendments, you remember that those first 10 amendments, you know what,
you know what, my favorite of the 10 amendments are, and they're sharing right there.
Thanks, Sherry. Good evening, friends.
They're so glad.
Now I feel complete and continue with the show.
I like amendment 10, you know why I like amendment 10?
Because on Constitution Day in 2004, when they celebrated the first Constitution Day,
I took my social studies method students and staged a protest.
We protested Constitution Day, saying it was unconstitutional.
And you know why we said it was unconstitutional?
Because it says in their amendment 10, read it again.
If it's not covered in this, it falls to the States.
And in the States, there is no such thing as a Constitution Day.
So therefore we could not.
So amendment 10, read it again, amendment 10, read it again.
So there you guys were chanting that, huh?
We were chanting out in front of the chancellor's office on a Penn State campus.
We were protesting Constitution Day.
How much more constitutional democratic can you get than protesting Constitution Day?
Yeah, and it makes sense, right?
So 10th amendment.
And should we, I don't think we need to run through them all, but the first 10.
So for folks, the Bill of Rights are the first 10 amendments of the Constitution.
And this to credit it, you know, to give credit to where credit ought to be due to how I'm,
you know, I say it got later renamed and brought up and analyzed by Cass Sunstein,
sort of an effort of a revival of FDR's unfulfilled, you know, proposition that we needed
an economic bill of rights.
But this is a timely moment and certainly conditions are reminiscent for people in America.
Especially the working class, you know, like dwindling middle class.
And as we don't really joke about it, but we reference it often, you know, in politics and culture,
it is not easy to make ends meet in this country.
And I'm not saying it should be easy, like, hey, you shouldn't have to work hard.
But, you know, I think it's really important to remember that if you don't have a livable
community, an affordable community, you don't have access to employment that allows the right
for the pursuit of happiness, right, and the liberty to live in a safe community and be able
to afford that while working hard, then you've got problems and you've got growing poverty.
And we certainly have an enormous amount of growing poverty in this country.
So FDR, right, you mentioned, gave that state of the union address in January 1944.
And really talked about that, that his, he believed that the Constitution and the Bill of Rights
as it existed, right, proved inadequate to assure equality in the pursuit of happiness.
And he proposed what he called at the time the economic bill of rights, which let's put it out
there and we'll get to calling it the second bill of rights. It didn't ever actually happen,
but it's been a guide for a lot of politicians and bonus out there for a recent more modern politician
for whom this is a stalwart text. But the second bill of rights basically covered an economic
right to work, an adequate income for food, shelter, and recreation, farmers rights to fair income,
freedom from unfair competition and monopolies, decent housing, adequate medical care,
social security, and education. It's like these are the things that Tim Walls
seems to have an amazing record on and seems as me putting up some square
square clothes for people watching the stream. He really does. He's been a champion of these
things. He didn't call them that, but really that's the essence of this. He has a champion of
those things. And the critique of him, and Tim, you brought this up before the show, you were saying,
hey, you know, there is a thoughtful critique of politicians like Tim Walls. The critique of that
is certainly that that coming from, I'll call it a mindful conservative, that saying, hey,
I actually believe it's everyone's individual responsibility to compete for those things.
If that's your belief, we can respectfully have a conversation. I understand that this is the
antithesis of that. We are saying that in such a second version of the bill of rights or an addition
to our constitution of bill of rights, adding these in, that we believe it's the responsibility
of a government to provide for its people these things, an education, an opportunity for meaningful
work, and at a wage that makes life housing, you know, recreation, health care, all these things
affordable. So yes, that's sometimes called as like socialist democracy or, you know, a socialist
leaning democracy, not communism, most communist experiments have had a dictator. Absolutely.
From that, although it does put more responsibility on government and government, you know, not giving
to its people, because remember, we're a government from the, for the people by the people,
because we get, but we are the strength of that. But it's those rights, those beliefs that become
infrastructure in our communities and our governments. We'll come back to that. So stay with us
more on Busted Pencils.
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Yeah, everybody's like, we not Busted Pencils for music. Yes, of course, I love the music.
I feel like Tim Johnny and Jesso too, because we are fully-letted education talk, educated
educators talking education, the numbers 8-5-5-7-5-2, 4-8-4-2, share a little bit, text from Jim from
Appleton, referring back to Johnny in the last segment. Johnny, I like and appreciate that you said
most communist experiments had a dictator. In fact, I cannot think of one that that doesn't or
didn't. However, I'm not a social studies expert. Please enlighten me. So we were doing that a
little bit during break in Jim. I think though you're texting, you were probably paying attention
to that. So we're kind of like with you on that one, Jim, right? When it comes to quote,
fully like a state authorized communism, there might be some practices in Jess. I made
reference that saying there are some communities. Is that maybe a better way to say it? Communities
in Israel under the kaboots that has where people would say that's a communism.
Right. And they're for the most part, a lot of the Hebrew team today are not really acting
in a sort of communist society, but at the beginning, they absolutely were, where it was
everything is shared. The communities would have some type of economic production that they had,
and it was from each according to their ability to each according to their need. And like I said,
over break some of them were very much to the far extremes of communism where everything is
shared from housing, sleeping, eating, children, you know, you raised your children in a group.
And then a lot of them were just sort of more like isolated communities.
Okay. Yeah. And I say Tim, I reference it as most is because I think we could say in all instances
where a government or a nation formally, formally identified as communist,
right? It has a dictator. And that's linked to the dictatorship of the proletariat. Is
a is an aspect of, you know, you know, emerging from the communist manifesto and from Karl Marx,
the part of that political pathway is that the organizing of the masses requires a dictatorship
of the proletariat. Problematic for me. Yeah. Most people who are defenders of democracy, not
because we don't think a government should be responsible for its people and that people of
that government should contribute to it. And maybe a social democracy or a socialist sort of
framework. I think that's important to point out for a listener or for learner out there.
We're really kind of comparing decentralized decision making of democracy where everybody's voices
valued and has a responsibility to be participating in the decision making versus a centralized
form of governance, which is decisions are moved really far away from the people and centralized
into either like a few leaders or a leader, a king, a queen, a dictator, that kind of stuff.
And so communist nations that are formally identified as that, I agree with our with our
text in, you know, to my knowledge, those of all had dictators and had functioned under
dictatorship, which is a centralized authority. Right. So that's different than I just throw
most out there because there are experiments around the world all the time in communities that are
influenced by communism for sure. And I don't want to digress too much because just the point
of that being sometimes those aspects that I brought up from an FDR's proposal to work towards
a second bill of rights as Cass Sunstein named it. And then I mentioned a more contemporary
politician who brought that, you know, with him to the White House, I'll spill the beans on
that right now was was Barack Obama and his administration were firm believers and influenced
heavily by FDR's, you know, economic bill of rights or Cass Sunstein's writing of it as the
second bill of rights. But the I brought this up and got on this sort of tangent here because
the critique of it is often that hey, that sounds communist and it's absolutely not although communist
experiments do provide those things, but through a dictatorship. And that's obviously not democracy.
My personal political beliefs on that is it's not the route I would like to see a nation I'm
in go. I like democracy. I believe that people have the capacity to do great for one another.
We also have capacity to do harm for one another. So governments play, you know, an important role
in providing sort of the infrastructure and opportunity and sort of set in the rules. Like say,
hey, we can co-exist together in community in a way where let's just put it out there. It never
really ought to be falling too far, right? The things you'd have to do to fall, fall pretty far
is to be really harmful towards yourself for those in your community, you know, or, you know,
I can imagine instances of practicing violence or, you know, or use of drugs, which is a form of
self-violence. These things could, you know, put you out of that care government provides. So it's
not a universal hate. This is just for everybody. You get it. You have to work hard. You have to
be part of community. You have to participate. And there's a lot of different ways you can do that.
And that's that piece around equality. So that's a strong democracy. And I got on a little bit of a
tan. I did. But that's great. And that tan took us right to the bell. Well, you know what the bell
signifies every day here on bus depensals, it lets us know that it is time for democracy and
action. Tonight's democracy and action. You know what Tim? It goes to all of those people out
there, especially our athletes, you know, participate in the Olympics are a great example of this.
But all the people in this country who practice the pursuit of happiness and their liberty,
right? Those are core democratic values, pursuit of happiness and liberty. And Tim, you brought up
in this episode, you talked about, you know, when you're supportive of things like the Bill of Rights
and then this notion for a second Bill of Rights, these additional necessary, you know,
like bullet points for a government to be responsible for. And you said, you know, just the right
to be a human. Well, part of core democratic values is the right to life. Each citizen has a right
to the protection of his or her life. That's our education, our access to affordable medical care,
right? That's our housing. That's all food. Yeah, that also exists on the universal declaration
of human rights. Exactly. So if we think about FDR in 1944, this is pre-signing the universal
declaration of human rights, which the United States has not been signatory nor ratifying of,
but the world had said, hey, you know what, as a global community, we can do a lot better. And the
universal declaration of human rights further breaks down what FDR, I think succinctly threw into
some additional bills, some additions to the Bill of Rights. I love it, Tim. But, you know,
that's kind of where I'm at. Tonight's democracy and action goes to all those athletes out there
who, you know, followed their dreams, who worked really hard. I don't think anybody watching
any of these athletes compete from anywhere where they're at in the world. But especially from
the United States can say, man, you know, these people had a free ride the whole way. I mean,
they worked incredibly hard and they followed their dreams. And I think it's a great example of
democracy and action. Their pursuit of happiness, their right to being able to be passionate about
something like, I watched this, this track and field event the other day. I'd never seen it before
my life. And I'm a sports enthusiast. It's called, what's it called? The steeple chase. Is that
right? They jump over hurdles into puddles or what? I'm like, this is insane. This is cool. But I mean,
I watch speed walking the other night. Yeah. What, like, like, how do you do this? And, and,
and it's hard work. It's people who are passionate about that. I watched your rhythmic gymnastics
early for a little bit. And I'm just like, wow, this is not the kind of hula hoop and we day it outside
without. You should see what I do with that little spinny streamer streamer thing when I go out
here, you know, move around. That's some rise against playing. And yeah, we're rising with my
streamer back there doing some cartwheels with a flag trail behind me. That is not something anybody
should have to see. It's busted pencils fully led at education talk 855 7524842, making social
studies teaching great again. That's what we're doing here tonight. We got on the phone though.
Our friend L.A. Tom, L.A. Tom wants to talk a little bit about those second Bill rights.
L.A. Tom, what's happening, our friend? Absolutely. FDR was the president, as far as I'm concerned,
the best president ever. I believe in the second Bill of rights. It's what he wanted to do. I wish
that when Bernie Sanders ran, I wish he would have ran as a finishing the job of FDR and going that
route with it. Unfortunately, he got caught up, I think, in the socialist label when I was pushing
back. But I'll tell you what, I know busted pencils are so, so popular around the whole,
really the world, as we know in Finland, places like that through their civic media app,
and the busted pencils, Twitter page and everything like that, that I'm hoping that the Harris
and Wolf campaign are hearing this, but I would like them to be calling themselves joyous
democracy warriors, not just joyous warriors, but joyous democracy warriors. That really,
really excites me, because I think they are all about democracy, and we have got to put the
office, we have got to put it out there. The difference between this election is either democracy
or authoritarian dictatorship. L.A. Tom, there it is. You got it, Johnny. I was going to say too, Tom,
if you have a second and he's still on the line, Tom, you've been following the Olympics at all,
what's your favorite part of the Olympics? Yeah, I had been following the Olympics. I mean,
you can't go wrong when you're watching the gymnastics. To me, it's just amazing how high up,
you know, Simone Biles can get them just off the ground. It's like she's, I mean,
talked about Michael Jordan. My God, she's like right there with him. But I just want to say one
other thing, one thing, one other thing if I could. Two great things, two great things that Coach
Wall said this past week. One is I learned the art of compromise without compromising my values.
And that is so important because we hear all the time, Democrats are the ones that compromise.
If they're the ones that are supposed to compromise, compromise, well, a lot of times they
compromise themselves right out of deals that actually hurt we the people because they're just
compromising to compromise. And I loved what he said, they'll learn the art of compromising my
values. And of course, I love the minor on damn business as well. But yeah, I just think that
that's what we all need to start learning is that you can compromise with people. But you don't
have to compromise your values. And what's happened in this country is that they're great programs,
like Social Security, Medicare and all those different things. And we've compromised
ourselves where all of a sudden the program's not doing as well. And then all of a sudden,
Republicans say the program doesn't work. We need to get rid of it. We need to privatize it,
whatever it might be. And I don't think Tim Wall said that. I think he talks in an FDR type
way without getting Matt Label put on him, which she's going to put on everybody anyway, but he
actually talks policy and long with Kamala Harris. Absolutely. LA Tom right there. I love to
coach walls. You put that in there too. I love that. You know, yeah, let's refer to him as coach
walls, social studies teacher, bringing up, you know, truly digging deep second bill of rights,
economic bill of rights, FDR's state of the union, 1944, bringing this in and Johnny, you know,
when we, I know we're not going yet, but I just what you talked about too, how this the guarantee
of a human and what does it mean to be human? And this goes back to my early, early days. And I know
just loves the way I say human. I'm supposed human. Hey, the H is silent in the phonics classes
that I had. So about those phonics, hey, hey, you know, and I wasn't using context clues,
because well, those are illegal right now. It's busted pencils 8557524842. LA Tom always
love when you call. Yeah. And man, I tell you what, just pointing out that the height
that these gymnasts get, it is absolutely something where you sit there and go, my god, how is
that possible for a human to do that like that? Well, you know what? Maybe we lost that question.
Maybe you can call us. Let's see what happens.
We call that America. We call that America. We call that America. We call that America.
I can see your smile. I can see your smile shine.
We surprised me. I loved seeing that smile just especially yours. And it is awesome. You did
that big smile. It's busted pencils fully-led at education talk, educated educators talking
education, 8557, 524842. Thursday, a little bit of Olympics, but then social studies lesson,
second Bill of Rights, well, actually the economic Bill of Rights, FDR's State of the Union
1944. And Johnny, you know, when you do, when you read through these and it's interesting to see
how there's a debate on this one because as we teach, this is the other thing that you and I
teach Johnny, we teach new teachers getting them ready. You know, it's like education 101 teachers.
What does a child need to be successful? And we bring up and we show them through
Maslow's hierarchy of needs, which lays out saying that you have to have food, you have to have
clothing, you have to have shelter because without those basic needs, those Maslow's hierarchy
of needs, everything else above that is impossible, that self-actualization, critical thinking,
participation. When I look at the second Bill of Rights, I see Maslow's hierarchy of needs
all through this language. And man, that's when I bring it back to my future social studies teachers,
that's how I'm always making the connection to them is saying remember when when you were
first starting out learning to be a teacher and in your ed site class or in your ed foundations class,
you learned about Maslow, Maslow's hierarchy of needs like, hey, dig into these economic Bill of
Rights, this second Bill of Rights. What do you see? And all the time, Johnny, they're able to draw
that comparison, go, oh my god, Dr. Slecker, you're right. Yeah. And it also recenters education
back on his murmur, but this is plus the census fully-led education talk, right?
Yeah, education, your educators talk in education, it is political and government responsibility
to strong education. And let's do some contrast, that's contrast with at least on this ticket,
a Republican party that wants to do away with that government responsibility. They want that fully
privatized and to be individual competition based. That's very different than saying, hey,
a strong education system is a bedrock of our democracy. It is one that is how we underwrite and
ensure and invest in not only the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, but like items like this
second Bill of Rights, or what FDR proposed in 1944, as the economic Bill of Rights.
And as we segue that back into why we are so excited about Harris and Walsh right now,
is we're talking about a fellow social studies teacher, and Tom called him coach Walsh,
and we've been emphasizing those aspects of it. But one of my favorite parts of this week,
Jess, I think we can wrap up the night show sort of ending on this sentiment. We got a lot coming
up and we'll close down. But before we do, I just want to say one of the inspiring moments I had,
listening to the Tim Walsh stuff, was how he was inspired to make that move from the classroom
and coaching in his community role, you know, and his responsibilities as a father and a participant
in the local economy to being a political leader. Jess, you have that clip where he credits
his inspiration. Let's run that clip. My students are the ones who encouraged me to run for office.
I never thought much about it. But they saw, they saw on me what I hope to instill in them,
a commitment to the common good, a true belief that one person truly can make a difference,
can make a difference in their world. Yeah, and I love it because we just talked about it, Tim,
we talked about how we prepare teachers, how we are teachers. We know we have listeners out there
who are teachers. We have educators amplified every week, their teachers. We have guests on who are
teachers or leaders of teachers in some capacity. I mean, this is education talk. Absolutely,
on the ground with the teachers. Well, every teacher, just a reminder, right, our classrooms are
microcosms of democracy. Young people experience that. They believe in it. They see that their
voice matters, that their value, that they have a responsibility to participate, and that everything
is towards the common good, you know, and they lifted up. They pushed and lifted up are now
candidate for vice president, Tim. Well, so every teacher, just a little reminder,
they're not working. You're doing to have a democratic classroom to honor the humans.
I emphasize the explanation of that is, is not only instilling democracy into their futures,
but their belief that it's not only possible, but it's probable and it's worthy of taking action on.
So great work there. I love that clip. Before we part ways, though, hopefully we have plenty of
opportunity to hoist up some brews soon, Tim. Yes, let's just shout out to Monaco Brewing Company.
I mean, Busta Pence is a sponsor by Monaco Brewing Company. So check them out. Monaco Brewing
Company dot com to see where you can maybe grab your own six pack or a couple brews from their
progressive beer lineup. Loving that progressive beer and Johnny, man, I can't believe another show
this quickly. Man, we barely got to everything. Just though, you know, again, just another opportunity
for a did you know? And in fact, there'll be a big did you know tomorrow because you know what tomorrow
is Friday. Tim's trivia. Did you know? Okay, but another did you know that you put in here and
it made me think about this is this is that within somebody you might say, there is no second bill
of rights. Okay. Well, you're right. But when you say a right to, you know, points out that in
education and people are like, Hey, you know what? So amendment 10 says if it's not here,
refer to the state constitution and all 50 state constitutions absolutely say that an education
is the responsibility of that government. And so anyone who tries to talk about these things as
these aren't really covered. Sorry, education is and that's sorry, that's what we do here all the time
or educated educators talking education. And we got to bring this stuff up all the time so that
people don't forget. And Johnny, you again, reminding people too, I just love that
those kindergarteners that are going into those public schools, you're like, oh, they're learning
their phonics, they're learning this, they're learning democracy. That's their first engagement
to practice being democratic citizens. First grade, second grade, third grade, all the way up. Yes,
it's about the academics, but it's that democracy in action. Man, tomorrow night, TGI, BPF,
and Tim's trivia. And oh, just so much more. See y'all tomorrow night.