This is Busted Pencils, fully-ledded education talk.
Here are your hosts, Dr. Tim Slecker and Dr. Johnny Lupinacci,
educated educators talking education.
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educated educators talking education,
Johnny, live from Seattle, you can see us on the Twitter,
on the Facebook, on the YouTube,
you can see that right there, Johnny's live from Seattle.
Downtown, right outside the Climate Pledge Arena,
excited because, I mean, we've been talking last night,
we had the wonderful, the amazing,
the knowledgeable, dropping wisdom,
Dr. Nancy Carlson Page,
and she was talking about the next generation of voters
and the Gen Z voters and the energy they have.
Well, outside, you can't hear me because I found a quiet spot,
but outside, there's literally 100,000 plus,
maybe not that many, I don't know, probably 20,000,
young women, I saw so many hair signs
and what I meant is the Olivia Rodrigo concert.
My daughter's going to that tonight.
And the vibe is pumping.
I mean, of course, I'm in Seattle.
Seattle Swings, very blue,
very, very Democrat, strong base here,
but so lots of hair signs, lots of energy and Tim,
what a night for educated educators,
talking education because both of our predictions,
oh, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got a lot.
In fact, though, you know what, though, Johnny, more?
No, not more important, but one of the best things
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And Johnny, you just want to get this out there,
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at 5 p.m. Central is the deadline for regular
and permanent overseas voters to request an absentee ballot
this Friday, August 9th at 5 p.m. Central
is the deadline to register to vote in person
before election day at your municipal municipal clerks office.
And if you are unable to register to vote before August 9th,
Wisconsin is a same day register in vote state.
So please register at your polling location
on August 13th.
Absolutely.
Lot, you know, we've got to do that there.
Johnny, you know what, one of the other things
of the two, man, because it is, it's an exciting day.
It's, to me, it's like, it's like Johnny Prediction Day,
people go back and download the New Year's Eve Predictions
and do it.
That's right.
That's right.
I got it.
We got it.
Tim's got it.
He's letting our listeners know if you weren't able
to tune in on New Year's, we made some predictions
on our more wish list kind of stuff for the year
of what we hoped to see.
And we'll tease that, but we'll get to that in a little bit.
And then over the past couple of weeks,
we had, you know, Tim really breaking down his VP favorites.
And I mean, we got some exciting stuff coming through.
I'm sure it's not news at this point,
although we all woke up to it here on the West Coast
to the good news and more energy and excitement.
So obviously, as an educator, as a teacher,
as somebody who cares deeply about democracy,
I am excited about, you know, Harris.
I'm excited about Harris's choice.
And we'll get into that tonight too.
Some exciting stuff.
Hey, Sherry, nice to see you listening and tuning in.
I say, Sherry from HorrorCon says hello.
And, man, Tim, tell me about what's happening.
Yeah, what's happening?
You know what, I'm just expressing
so much happiness, Johnny will let this in,
but man, what a morning, what an announcement.
The best part is producer Jess too,
letting us know right away.
I'm not even sure the announcement was made
truly at the Harris campaign before.
Jess, you had some kind of secret premonition
or knowing what was going to happen, man, right?
I opened up the news at the exact right time.
And I saw it and I waved out my phone
and just sent it off to you immediately.
Because you sent it off and I went to, you know,
not double checking to verify you,
but I pulled up CNN.com.
It still was not even on CNN yet.
So I hadn't even gotten the breaking news alert.
Myself yet, I literally just opened up WAPO
and it was right there.
All right, what are we talking about?
We're talking about, let's just put it out there,
Johnny Lupinotchival, get to how it's connected.
But hey, Kamala Harris put together,
we had been waiting.
We had been waiting.
Who's it going to be?
Josh Shapiro, Tim Waltz, Andy Bashir,
Mark, the other one from Arizona,
just draw a blank on his name for us.
I'm Jess, Jess, thank you.
And today, Tim Waltz, man, and you're sitting there,
people are going like, it's a vice president.
No, for us, it busted pencils.
Well, I mean, besides being Tim,
you know, which is a great name, the idea that,
the year of the Tim's.
Yeah, it's the year of the Tim's.
But, dude, man, a teacher, a teacher.
This is what we're talking about.
A public school teacher, a coach.
That's why, Johnny, a social study teacher.
That's what I was going to say, not just any teacher, right?
Social studies.
And for Lister, who aren't as familiar
with Dr. Tim Slecker and Dr. Johnny Lupinotchee,
both of us, social studies teachers and social studies
educators, I talk a lot about teaching math
because it has high need and I talk more math
than I got to social studies.
But you better believe we were learning social studies
and math together.
But a couple of social studies teachers here
couldn't be more excited because I had one of our guys.
He's one of our guys and maybe, you know, maybe a project's
bigger things for Johnny and Tim to social studies teachers
talking education, educated educators, talking education.
Maybe, you know, hey, Secretary of Education now
is totally open for the busted pen.
I say all three of us, busted pencils gang Jess, Johnny, Tim.
Yeah.
We can handle it.
We can handle it.
We can handle that department of education.
I don't know that I can't, Tim.
I've learned in the last few years to express my limits.
And I think it's far beyond that.
But I feel really good about a teacher and office.
I feel really good about a former teacher
who's done big things in his state, not only
for public education, but for human rights,
for communities, especially children, especially children.
And so I feel really good about somebody like that
in a leadership role.
Because I think they'll make good decisions
in the least voice and expressed interest
in how we teach our children to be democratic citizens.
Because Tim, that's also the exciting thing
about being a social studies teacher.
This is a man who not only knows how to be a democratic
citizen, but teaches future democratic citizens,
all the democratic values in these things.
It's an exciting moment.
I hope it carries into all the way into November.
And like I said before, into the next decade
of strengthening democracy in this country.
So I'm excited.
Yeah, and staying with that excitement.
I see L.A. Tom is on the line.
Jess has the note there, excited to talk about Waltz.
L.A. Tom, what's happened in our friend?
Oh my God, you guys, I feel like today,
the whole teaching profession, public school education
has just elevated today.
I feel that we actually have somebody
that his family was to keep public school teachers.
He gets it.
I hate to say it, but it's the same exact background
that my father had.
He was a history teacher.
He was a football coach for 30 years.
He also worked in local government
and Wisconsin on the county board.
I love the fact one of my biggest lines I love
was when he said that we can compromise
without compromising our values.
And I thought, wow, that just hit me in the most.
It's the thing I've always believed in.
Because everyone says, oh, compromise, compromise, compromise.
Well, he's saying compromise, but don't compromise your values.
And that's exactly what FDR was about.
And I feel like we have FDR in some ways back.
Even though he is the vice president,
it just shows you also that these two people
don't have these huge, large egos.
Exactly.
Exactly, LA Tom, exactly.
I mean, the egos just coming across.
I love Tom's excitement, LA Tom's excitement,
like that Johnny, for him to come across.
Because we have him.
People who've been listening to Busted Pencils
regularly over the last two weeks know
that we've been listening to the President.
Like, you know, this is the station thing.
Tim is going digital on us, but I'm going to jump
and start to cut you off, Tim.
But hey, I'll tell you what he was saying.
What he was getting at is like for the last couple of weeks,
we've been talking about that whoever
was on that short list for Kamala Harris
was going to be pretty strong.
It was going to be great.
And we would get behind it because when it comes down
to it, when we look at contrasting,
the Republican Party candidate and the Trump vans ticket
and Harris, whoever it was going to be,
it was who's going to support democracy
and how will we be able to influence
and make changes in schools?
And one ticket, there's the Department of Ed.
On the other ticket, there's a clear and transparent agenda
to abolish the Department of Education
and really to harm children in this country.
And so this was almost a no-brainer.
But our excitement then really comes in because here
we are saying, wow, a teacher, a former teacher,
and somebody with a record, like the, I would say,
that A minus to straight A may be even lean
in towards with some extra credit, potentially,
an A plus for education.
Oh, yeah, real strong.
The stuff real strong.
The stuff that was able to really make happen
for children and communities through public schools
in Minnesota is beyond remarkable.
I would say this is the dream for a lot of teachers.
So LA Tom's excitement, Tim and my excitement,
probably listeners out there might be thinking,
okay, wow, I can get behind this.
We're usually like, hey, education, we'll get to it.
We love to talk about it,
but it's not usually something that swings the boat.
And sadly, it just hasn't always been a top priority
to support children in this country.
We have a politician chosen to be
a vice president candidate who has said flat out,
I will support all children in this country.
He was a champion for transgender rights.
He was a champion for feeding children
because we always talk about the health
of our children's paramount to their performance in schools.
So he was champion at bringing free lunch.
And again, we've had whole shows on this.
So listeners who are with us often, you know
that Dr. Tim and Dr. Johnny have talked a lot
about the importance of children's health
and we have whole shows on free lunch,
because it's not free,
but it's a decision to support children learning
and their healthy development.
Hey, stay with us because we got more, love it.
Man, we're excited.
See you in a bit.
Fight to lose.
I'm a liar, liar, liar, cool, idealist.
It's my right to choose.
Not the relationship, not take to find a natural extremist.
It's their fight to lose.
I'm a liar, because the parkour gets its naturalist.
Who wants to make the whole world coexist?
Let's get to what Tim cut it there.
Tim McElrith, oh, it's the night of Tim's right there.
Tim.
Tim McElrith from Rise Against Tim
and walls to new Vice Presidential candidate
right now, lots of excitement.
Joy, in fact, Jess, can we express that joy in another way?
We can express joy in many ways.
I think you might have an audio clip that really
let's just jump right into it.
Jump in.
Thank you, Madam Vice President, for the trust you could in me,
but maybe more so.
Thank you for bringing back the joy.
That was just minutes ago.
That is what I'm talking about right there.
Joy, do you hear that electricity, man?
Madam, I do.
And to loop it back to yesterday's show, Dr. Nancy Carlson
Page talking about the energy we were just really vibing
on that whole excitement, especially around young voters.
And around people who are like have said enough,
and they for the most part, and I don't agree with this,
because I never would advocate for people
to check out of one of the most important civic duties
we have is voting, right?
But a lot of young people were sending a message saying,
there's no option for me that I see the kind of country
or leadership I want in my future.
And so many Gen Z voters registering this week
and on this energy.
And you know what we were talking about
is the rhetoric, the energy, the vibe.
It was that of joy.
And it wasn't the kind of smoothing over the like,
let's just pretend there aren't issues.
It's hard hitting, it's firm, but it's with this humility
and it's with this unapologetic joy
that you know what, we are going to do this.
We are going to strengthen democracy.
We're going to care about one another.
We're going to smile, we're going to laugh,
but we're also going to be tough on the hard things.
We're going to come down hard on the facts
and those facts are that we have opportunity
to really build something strong here
and we're long overdue for it.
And I'm excited, I love hearing that joy.
And I was even, you know, I've been talking about
how surprised I was by that.
I know, because I had forgotten, I had forgotten
what it was like to have, you know, really direct,
strong conversations around politics,
from political leaders.
I mean, we have them all the time in classrooms,
we have them all the time at places
like Monaco Brewing Company,
or you know, here on Busted Pencils,
the great programming on civic media,
we get to have those conversations.
But by and large, you know, it's usually doom, gloom
and really vitriol dialogue.
And this is a different shift, it has a different tone
and it has real, it's not false hope or optimism.
It really carries weight to it, I'm excited for it.
The way, the way you said that too, Johnny,
is you point out that the way this is gen, you know,
generated energy with Gen Z.
I also hear you and me and Jess expressing that
because you were the one who did say
you were absolutely surprised at how energized
just the switch to Kamala Harris made you feel.
Not that you didn't support it and not that you didn't want it,
but this kind of surprisingness.
And who can blame the young Gen Zers?
Actually, maybe doing a civic duty by saying,
we don't see ourselves, we don't see ourselves.
Well, guess what, they were heard.
So their civic duty had some ability to land.
And people said, wait a minute,
we cannot alienate this many people,
not because they didn't want to vote for Joe Biden,
but they didn't feel compelled,
they didn't have that joy.
And that joy now is just reverberating across, you know,
again, students, how about going back as a teacher this fall
to just be having these conversations?
And again, whoever you support, the idea that classrooms
can actually be electric this fall back to school,
talking about what's happening in our American democracy,
because that's what we're witnessing.
We're witnessing real democracy.
Well, and Tim, you know, I just got to remind callers,
you know, call and join the conversation,
855-7524-842, and also got to go back
and I was talking about the excitement I had around
some of the achievements, you know, that Tim Walls has made
happen for young people and for schools and communities
in Minnesota, and I had mentioned the free lunch,
which isn't really free lunch,
it's advocating healthy food to learners, right?
And we had a great text in from our guy Chris,
and Madison, Chris Casper, you know,
sent in a text that's also free breakfast.
This is the key thing.
It's making sure our learners are cared for.
It's making sure they have nourishment
in both nutritional form and in the, you know,
emotional support and the intellectual support
that they have as they're growing.
So important.
So thanks, Chris, for texting in.
We love when listeners, you know,
share their expertise with us too,
because that's what this is all about, man.
Hey, look at that, you know what?
I thought Chris Casper was out offering free breakfast
for me, you and Jess.
I didn't realize.
He was inviting, Chris, you invited Tim to breakfast, man.
We're gonna be at short stack one of the weeks
and we're gonna, we're gonna reach out to you.
Cam from Nina, we hope your stream is unfrozen
and Jess stopped dabbing.
Jess, would you stop dabbing?
It's a really unprofessional of me.
It's amazing.
Geez.
You know what, though, Johnny, too pointing that out,
you know, again, the, the, you say,
and we eat the free lunch.
No such thing as a free lunch.
Okay, well, then let's drop this.
The fact that children in the state of Minnesota
don't ever have to, in parents don't have,
ever have to think about being fed.
And as Chris points out, breakfast and lunch,
the reality, Johnny, that we have always talked about going
like, sorry, you can't teach hungry kids.
You just can't.
So to eliminate that and anybody who comes out
and does mine, we're gonna make kids soft by giving them,
no, we're going to give them the ability to learn
to be energized, to be engaged.
Sorry, that's what feeding does.
Yeah, and we have whole shows on the same.
I'm sure we'll have one coming up again soon
as we look closer at, you know, the Harris Walls ticket
and talk about it in terms of what does it
potentially mean for education.
But, you know, there are a lot of great districts,
even outside of Minnesota, who have made that decision
to, as an equalizer, because we've even had shows
where we talked about sort of the stigma's we experience
being in those lines.
You know, you're going in the morning
and you gotta say, well, who's, who needs lunch today?
And you had to, you know, same kids,
we'd always be up at the front of the room,
kind of doing the walk of shame, getting our coin
or whatever our ticket was, making sure, you know,
our, you know, peanut butter sandwich
or our French toast sticks, you know,
where they're for us at the lunch.
So it was always sort of like a thing that existed.
Mm-hmm.
But as a stickman, and it wasn't always nourishment, man.
No.
So, so the equalizing way we start to talk about this.
And for a listener, you know, this is something
tenman Johnny, we study.
So having done some comparative work around the world,
recognizing that it is not uncommon
to have lunch and breakfast and food
for all the students in schools in most countries.
Right.
That I would say are equivalently organized
as the United States.
And I'm not even talking about,
because it's going to come up.
Oh, these are, this is communism.
It absolutely is.
No.
Democracy is around the world that do this as a no-brainer.
Tenman, we are chopping it up.
There's just so much energy and excitement.
I love being here with you and with Jess and our listeners.
Stay with us.
We got more.
I can see your smile.
I can see your smile shining brightly through the window.
Whoa.
What a great song, Jess Fostok Pencils fully-led at Education Talk.
Give us a little.
Use that.
This credit goes to Brian Kelly for finding tiny moving parts,
tiny moving cards.
And they're out of mouth.
And they're out of mouth.
Rock band.
Yeah.
Math Rock band.
I love that.
I love that.
I love that.
Hey, it's Fostok Pencils.
It's Tim and Johnny and Jess.
We're back.
We're on.
Yeah.
We're on the Civic Media app.
We're on your radio dial.
We're on X.
We're on Twitter.
Because that's what it should be called.
We're on Facebook.
And all of that.
I love that.
Yeah.
I love that.
And it goes everywhere, Jason.
Jason, Jason, just.
I, the vibe check on tilting today's episode,
I love this.
Has this coming from you?
I mean, At titling today's episode.
Yeah.
Oh.
Never.
Sorry, but.
Same same same same.
Same direction.
I tell you, but
This is you.
I love this.
I
My like, this is when I
Vs getting up and I remember
working with America, joyful again.
Just.
I've been smiling all day.
Oh my, I tell you what,
Harris behind campaign, we know you guys are always
listening to busted pencils, you gotta give Jess some
cred on that, we because she just absolutely
blew this up, make America joyful again.
On the line, it's feeling this caller Joanne, Joanne,
what's happening in our friend?
What's happening to Joanne?
I couldn't be happier.
Just a couple of quick notes about our new friend,
Governor Wolf.
I'm just wanting to note that he is not an attorney.
Attorneys are great, but we've had attorneys all the way down
the line.
The last president we've had or vice president who was not an attorney
was Jimmy Carter and it recognizes the expertise that we have
as educators to say this educator deserves to be promoted
to this top spot and all of that.
So that's that's the first point.
The second point shows from his bio, the governor's bio,
how our social infrastructure works,
how when his father died at age when the governor was 19,
that social security payments were there so that he could go to school
and that the GI bill helped him and all of the folks who are criticizing
our social infrastructure and saying, oh, this is socialists,
and it takes our initiative away, should look at this amazing bio
that Harris provided, so wonderful.
I was going to say president Harris.
President Harris provided so wonderfully in the introduction.
So you hear all of these social infrastructure snapping into place
and supporting people and enhancing their lives and launching them
and I couldn't be happier things are working out well.
And so for busted pencils, you made being a social studies teacher cool.
You put a bunch of people here, so thanks so much.
Joanne, love that making social studies teaching cool again,
busted pencils.
Yeah, and Harris waltz make America joyful again,
loving that Johnny Lupinachi thoughts.
Well, yeah, man, I look thanks Joanne for calling in and sharing that.
I was looking for the exact quote and I'll pull it up.
But you know what really spoke to me from some of the things about Tim Walson
and I can't remember when he said it, it wasn't too long ago,
but he had shared the importance of leveraging political capital
isn't to improve your own status in life,
but it's to improve the life of the people around you
is to make people who are suffering be able to live more comfortably in community.
It's about having that kind of country about that kind of community
and that just stands out to me.
It's just a different, it's a contrast to what we've been dealing with.
And I'm excited about it.
And I think Joanne hits it right on the head with, you know,
like nothing against lawyers.
I mean, nothing against them.
Obviously, we need great people in the justice system and who have experience
from the justice system to come into making policies, you know, and leading.
There's nothing against JD's and lawyers out there.
Love them.
But there's something about a teacher.
There's something about somebody with military service.
I always talk about the importance of veterans,
the perspective they bring to how important democracy is,
to the kinds of leadership we need to keep peace, right?
And I just think Matt, he really has what it takes.
I also think, and I've said this last week, I don't want to shadow her,
Kamala Harris has what it takes to be a strong leader.
Together, they bring really different things to the table to make it stronger.
And what are we talking about yesterday?
Diversity.
And an importance of difference to a strong democracy.
So I'm pretty excited about that.
Hey, you know what the bell means?
There it is.
Democracy in action every day here on Busted Pencils.
That bell rings, starts class, the lesson in democracy in action today.
I got to give it to her.
And I had no idea waking up this morning.
We know Tim, Tim was, I'll give him to fight tangent because he got this honor.
And I've seen not only memes, but clips of Kamala Harris and Tim was laughing, smiling.
And you know what, they're strong.
They're tough.
They're not pulling any punches.
They're standing up to bullies.
But at the same time, they're reminding us that laughter, enjoy is important.
And you know what?
So Kamala Harris, you get it because, man, you've been, you've been making that wave.
And Tim was by tangent.
They get today's democracy in action.
And the core democratic value I'm tying to it is pursuit of happiness.
Oh, every citizen can find happiness in his own way.
So long as she or he does not step on the rights of others.
This is a key thing.
They are modeling for us.
They're saying, we can be happy.
But you can't harm and hurt one another.
That is not how we do this.
And so, I mean, I got to also walk back some information I gave up on the show yesterday.
I said, we were going to have our lovely friend, the incredible educator, Tim Marshall,
on a talk about transgender justice in schools today and the rethinking schools publication coming out.
I got the wrong Tuesday.
I was too excited.
It's actually next Tuesday.
And so if you tuned in today to hear that, and it's connected to all this.
Oh, it's connected.
It really is.
But, but tune in.
Keep tuning in because you'll get to hear from the great time, Marshall.
Next Tuesday.
You know, rethinking schools feature transgender justice in schools.
And you know what?
And you know what?
Tim is connected because you know who's been a strong advocate for doing the right thing.
And for honoring pursuit of happiness for everybody, for every child.
Tim Wallace.
Tim Wallace.
You know, there it is.
Man.
Hey, there it is.
There it is.
It's busted pencils fully.
Let it.
Education talk.
Educated educators talking joyfully about education.
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So we love hearing from you and Tim and he goes digital on us every now and then.
You know, I'm I bet you it has something to do with where Tim is.
And possibly that weather because of your listening.
You know that you're probably getting some pretty torrential rainfall.
And there was some hurricane stop sweeping in.
And there's some big weather out that way.
So well, Tim's be digitizing.
You know, I'll start to say like, hey, man, I am feeling that jubilance.
I am feeling that excitement.
I am glad you are excited.
You are probably already energized about the importance of this election.
But in a different way.
And now we're hearing a moment.
Where we still have that that eminence, the importance of an election.
Where we can't really lose sight of the fact that we need to contrast the two tickets.
That we need to really remember that.
You know, especially on especially on the side that most of us probably listening and.
You know, and that we are talking from.
You know, we got to really remember that in terms of education.
One ticket wants to do away with the department of education.
Wants to really hurt public schools.
And beyond that, hurt children.
And I mean, this is not.
It feels like hyperbole.
It feels like I'm slandering.
But this is fact.
This is the sad thing.
And the other ticket.
Well, we might say we have a stronger wish list than maybe what they put out.
We'll see what they put out.
But we know that they have a record.
At least Tim Wallace does.
And I believe Kamala Harris does.
But from a different profession.
Right.
So her background and her work in tangent to education.
Isn't isn't quite an A plus in terms of caring for children.
But I don't hold that against her because I believe at her core as a leader.
She does.
And she can.
Because that's the kind of leadership in country we need.
So.
These are the kinds of contrasts we need to really make sure on the table.
That yes, we're going to have big wish lists.
But when it comes down to it, rarely will you find John Lupinachi talking about an either or.
And in this context, there's an either or.
There's a huge.
Yeah.
It's huge.
Think about that.
Even just the part, Johnny, when you were talking about.
And just put it up there, we might even have some audio about that with them laughing together.
Just do we have.
Oh, I don't know.
Okay.
We didn't.
But the fact that they're celebrating laughing.
That is in and of itself.
The reality of saying that this is serious stuff this.
We said, you know, this is somebody.
A threat to democracy.
Well, guess what?
We can take on the threat to democracy with joy and laughter.
But yet.
We can take on the threat to democracy with joy and laughter.
But yet the intensity.
The intensity to come at this from the standpoint of saying, man, especially when it comes
like you said, Johnny, to education and children.
The idea to I loved where color Joanne went specifically with the idea that here is an example
of a man who actually the social programs that we had in place.
How they acts absolutely.
Not a handout, not a give out.
But the ability to have a ladder to grab on to to step up to move over to keep going.
The that.
Sorry.
That's just what good neighbors do for each other.
We reach out when we see somebody in a place where they need a little bit of help.
We give it to them.
And so as a country, as a democracy, providing supports for our community members,
for our neighbors, when things go sideways, that's not socialism.
That's called being a compassionate human being that lives up to the responsibility
you take on when you come to this earth and get the opportunity to be in community
with other humans.
Man, I'm sorry.
Went a little bit kind of haywire on that one.
Just laughing.
It's okay.
I'm giggling it.
You been.
Oh.
And you share.
We share that kind of altruism and we're motivated by it.
You know, it's common characteristic in educators.
It's it's not a flaw.
It's part of just who we are.
We're going to hear.
I'm sure similar sentiments from teacher Joanna and teacher.
Howie tomorrow from educators amplified.
But I'm going to just take a position for a moment before we go to break.
And I'm just going to say, even if you're not as altruistic as Tim and Johnny
and you're not as excited about, hey, caring about one another.
You're like, caring about people.
You know, I understand that.
I'm just going to present the instrumentals argument that actually this is an investment.
This kind of the kinds of policies and the kinds of ways we talk about public education
and that we're excited for this ticket is because when you invest in young people,
you make it less costly in the long run.
You strengthen the economy.
You build opportunities.
So these these kinds of programs that Joanna was bringing up.
They aren't like they aren't soft landings for folks.
They're investments and and all of us having to spend less in the future.
Because you're just moving around.
You're constantly robbing teeter to pay Paul.
If you don't have a strong social security system.
And I'm not just talking about social security checks.
I'm talking about the whole thing that L.A. Tom brought up when he was talking about
the second Bill of Rights in an FDR kind of ticket.
I'm excited about that Tim.
The energy is flowing the night.
And we're going to keep it flowing.
So stay with us.
We've lost to keep talking about.
Tons.
A portion would make me feel I was worth something.
I want to exist in your heart just a little bit.
A small portion would make me feel I was worth something.
I want to exist in your heart just a little bit.
A small portion would make me feel I was worth something.
I want to exist in your heart just a little bit.
A small portion would make me feel I was worth something.
I want to exist in your heart just a little bit.
I want to exist in your heart just a little bit.
He's just in your heart just a little bit.
What?
What?
Where?
Clone?
The parts that made it was sky.
I tried to block the moultz.
I tried to stop the calories.
I tried to stop the calories.
I tried to stop the calories.
I tried to stop the calories.
What?
What?
What?
What on earth's treated aim?
And already we're falling.
We're falling.
So if you think that you really feel it
In the music tonight, most depending
Regardless if you think that you really feel it
In the music tonight, most depends on what you read
So if you think that you really feel it
In the music tonight, most depending on what you read
In the music tonight, most dependent on what you read
In the music tonight, most dependent on what you read
I'm telling you.
If it woulda been Josh throughout
There would have been a lot of joyless people
But I don't think as a public education
Advocate it the way I am
Sure.
I would not be nearly as pumped as I am today
Because we said it's like he's done a lot of
Great work in Pennsylvania
But man he just came at the vouchers
You know on accountable private school vouchers
And it was like dude we don't need
We got somebody like Tim Walts
Hey, you know what Shapiro if he's great
Well, maybe he also then has a cabinet
Position to be taking on or maybe he needs to
Stay the governor of Pennsylvania to keep
Bring it at home for the Pennsylvania's
The way he seems to be doing 90
At 80 to 90 percent support rate in
In Pennsylvania maybe he just
Needs to keep on being a darn good leader
Right there for PA Johnny
You know Tim I'm with you
I get the excitement that educators
Would feel I'm excited about Tim Walts
Because again, social studies, educator, teacher
We'll get into it and we're going to
Dive into it because I don't want to be
The like won't want the downer on this
I would actually have been happy with both
And I honestly don't and one of the reasons is
I'm excited about this because man
I'm going to cheer for a teacher every day of the week
You know and then on extra days that don't even exist
But I'm just saying I also don't know how
Much he'll be able to do more education
I'm excited about what he's going to do for children
And by default I think he will advocate
For the right thing in education
But it means we got work to do
There's always work to do
And I'm going to bring it back to
Remember Tim this you'll rarely catch
Johnny Lupinachi talking about an either or
But this is one ticket that you just couldn't go wrong on
I mean we are talking about abolishing
We're talking about a wave of politics
That is decades of potentially fascism
And then people who might not be our perfect ticket
But care about democracy
Care about human rights
You know care about something like public education
And I actually thought you know
You really can't go wrong with her short list
I'm of course really excited
But again I'm going to get into it
Because I thought remember I was pumped
And I still am I really love President Obama
But Arnie Slam Dunkin
They let us down on education man
Big time
So we won't do all that right now
Let's experience the joy
Let's be jubilant
But let's also follow suit of the professional ethics
Remember that's 20 lessons from the 20th century
That Kamala and Tim
Walls are going to model for us
And I'm sort of nudged in a bit
They're going to model that you put people
Into positions of political power
I'm kind of bending a quote that Tim Walls used
To improve the lives of others
Not your own
And so let's see what happens
I really have hope
And on that note a hope
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When you were just talking about this
Talking to me
There's a
Again, wherever you find my religion
But there's something that one of the great
Kind of, you know, they give tribute to Jesus for saying
What you do to the least of these
You do to me and man
That one has always stuck with me
Is saying if I could model that
And boy, I feel like right now
That man we're saying
Look, if you're out there
We see you, we hear you
We got you on this one
It's time in America to say
We see you again
We see you again
And it is not something to be ashamed of to see you again
And Johnny, you pointed this out earlier in the show
Yeah, you know what?
I went to that free lunch line
At a point in time growing up
And I'm telling you, it was
It was embarrassing, it was shameful
But we did it
And I'm telling you right right now
There should be no embarrassment, no shame
To feel and in fact
Let's come, let's
Man, lift some people up, Johnny go
Yeah, man, I just got to say
Before we close out
Stay with us
Educators amplified tomorrow
And stay tuned all afternoon tomorrow
I mean, you're always tuned in to Civic Media
But special coverage tomorrow afternoon
Harris Walls campaign appearance
And all clear
That's right, in Wisconsin
Let's make it happen
Special coverage tomorrow
All afternoon on Civic Media
Man, educators amplified
So we know you're tuning in
But extra make sure you tune in tomorrow
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Civic Media app
Easy way to do it
Just putting it out there
You know, if you're sitting there going
Where, where, where, when?
Civic Media app
Just and I hit the Wisconsin
Wisconsin Public Education Network summit
Man, we were showing people how to drop and download
That Civic Media app
And they were like, whoa
It just, you point out it is so clear
The sound is awesome
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Man, I tell you what, we just keep moving this forward, moving this
It's just bringing back joy
Again, man, Jess, tell me
You got point
Jess, put that out on Twitter and own that
Because that's yours
It came out of busted pencils
But that's you, Jess
Hey, man, you say, Johnny, Jess
Educator's amplified tomorrow
Looking forward to seriously rocking it
See y'all tomorrow night
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