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It is TGIBPF, thank God, Busted Pencils Friday, I got it right, man.
What do we, can't believe it's Friday already though, considering, man, we were just, you
know, pre-show getting ready for tonight's show, you know, between the three of us sharing
back and forth.
What do we do, Monday?
What do we do, Tuesday?
I was like, holy crap, we covered a lot of stuff this week.
So just, Johnny, man, wait a bring it, wait a bring it, listener out there, too.
Wait a hang in there.
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All I can say though is, is that I am, and we're going to talk this, I am thankful on
a Friday that the Republican National Convention is over.
Well, after last night, I mean, what a finale.
I have my own, we're going to talk a little bit about that, but I, I, holy crap, did they
blow it?
I mean, that's, I mean, they were, I mean, they were, they were, they were, they were,
they were kicking, you know, that A double, you know, money symbols and look out, they
invited that dude to come up and finish out the night.
Oh, rough, rough, rough, rough one.
But, you know, you can't make this stuff up.
I mean, there was like eight or nine year old me who would have been pumped, but Hulk Hogan
to give a speech for any electoral candidate.
It was just wild.
I mean, you really can't sort of being on an acid trip, make this stuff up.
I saw, I saw, I saw an ad or a meme or something going like, people outside of America have
no idea what they just witnessed when they saw that kid rock, Hulk Hogan, they know
why the, you know, you name it.
It's just like, wait a minute, what the heck was that?
These are just the people, these are the warm up people to somebody running for president.
Hey, man, you know, if you're running for president of the United States, a perk should
be you get to pick up, like pick your opening act, opening act, yeah, and I think you,
I think we, I think we got to see what happened.
But is there not something to be said for, you know, politics not necessarily being all
about the show?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
Well, speaking of that, before we get too much further into things and there's a lot
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You know what, though, in fact, man, you spurred, we spurred it right away, LA Tom, we're
going to jump in, we got a lot more to say, but LA Tom wants, he wants to jump right
in right away.
LA Tom, what's happening in our friend?
Hey guys, first off, we, the people ultimately are the government and you must never forget
that.
We are democracy warriors.
Start old, broken down, stale, dementia, Don was an embarrassment last night.
And I do want to say that if Kamala Harris becomes the nominee, which I still think Joe
Biden will be the nominee, but if Kamala is, if Kamala is the nominee, I hope she picks
the governor from North Carolina, Roy Cooper, that's 17 electoral college votes and he is
actually, his background is a school, his mother was a school teacher, I believe, his
wife's an attorney, I mean, it's like he'd be perfect in terms of, he was an attorney
general and people of North Carolina love him.
He'd be a really, really great choice if we do have to go down that road.
Running mate for Kamala Harris, hmm, okay, I've seen out there, and I know we want to
get back to because Tim Stryvia teased that out there, we got it ready, that's a Friday
feature, man.
Yeah, it's, but, but L.A. Tom, you know, I saw, um, a comparing that suggested Peabudajage
as a potential running mate for Kamala Harris, um, and I think that's an incredibly strong
ticket.
I see L.A. Tom, I'm going to tell you, when we start having these conversations, that's
why I don't understand how you're keep saying that we need to keep Biden because I get
excited talking about the possibilities of Kamala Harris, the North Carolina, Peabudajage,
Jess's dad saying, Adam Kinzinger, holy crap.
I mean, there's something that lifts me up when we start having this conversation, you
know, in a section, it's democracy in action.
And after last night where it truly was, I mean, the Republicans had disagreed with everything
they said, but they were running a tight ship.
They were delivering, delivering, delivering.
And man, what a disaster with, you know, TFG, that, you know, that F and guy.
And now the opportunity is upon Democrats to move in and take over and say, let's bring
some excitement, some Kamala Harris and who's that new running mate, Adam Kinzinger,
maybe Peabudajage, maybe, I don't know, but it's so inspiring to have that conversation.
But you know who I want, since we're throwing in our, you know, you know, my, my nomination
to run with, with Kamala is Big Gretch.
Oh, absolutely.
Gretch Whitmer up in Michigan, and that's my favorite.
I would love to see her run for president, but I mean, let's not get too wild with this
because I do think, I do think Harris is, is in line, and I think she'd be great.
I really do.
I think we, we don't talk often enough about the role she plays about her work.
And I don't agree with all of it.
But again, we've said, like agreeing 100% with somebody is not as important as solidarity
towards a strong democracy.
And I think, I think Harris has what it takes.
And then, and then let's get into the excitement here and the optimism of what that looks
like.
I also will get back to it because we're going to recap the week and we had a guest last
night, really special, and, and offered a really important point to contrast.
And that's something I did today because I really thought that was really fruitful, helpful,
generative suggestion, right, from, from our guest Randy last night.
And she said, Hey, remember, it's really important for us all to contrast.
What are the differences between these two parties?
What are the differences between who's running, whether we get into whether it's Joe or whether
it's Harris and somebody, however we get into this going into the democratic convention,
right?
I think it's a really important moment, but I do think it's really worthwhile to contrast.
And I think that's really important to look at the Trump four years, four years, look
at the Biden Harris four years and do a comparison contrast.
We'll be doing that.
Of course, not all tonight, but I did it on paper today and I was like, I like LA Tom.
I think he's been calling for this.
I really felt like, okay.
And I do that.
I'm less distracted by the show of all this.
And I'm reminded what are my values and what am I voting on?
And so I think it's really important that we do that kind of contrasting.
It's generative and it's productive.
Anyways, Tim, back to it tonight because one of my favorite things about Friday is Tim
trivia.
So Tim, drop the trivia.
So listen, we're going to tease this one here, but I'm going to tease it right now.
This is going to be, this is going to be interesting.
So dealing with breakfast and breakfast, American breakfast and risky behavior, what does
American breakfast and risky behavior have in common maple syrup?
Hmm.
Yes.
I mean, immediately Tim, I think of how often I have breakfast for dinner.
Call it burner.
You've heard that before.
I mean, that's risky behavior.
Well, so let's just put the question out there and it's going to be there.
What American breakfast food had its origins in risky behavior?
What American breakfast food had its origins in risky behavior?
In other words, because of risky behavior, there became an American breakfast food.
Who knew that risky behavior would be the impetus of breakfast food?
That's the question.
More hints to follow throughout the night as we're building up on this.
But yeah, breakfast food that was inspired, inspired by risky behavior or as Jess was saying
pre-show, risqué.
I don't know.
Whoa.
Is risky and risqué, are they different words, or do they like, they're different words?
Okay.
Different words and meanings.
And I'm guessing that trivia question has nothing to do with risky behavior.
But I'm excited because if it does, this is an interesting breakfast.
I was going to say, you never, never, never, never know.
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Yeah.
Talking about, you know, got LA Tom in here quick to kind of come in and talk about the,
you know, horrendous, truly horrendous performance by TFG, that FN guy last night at the convention
that really just opens up a great possibility, I think, for Democrats.
And we were speculating about the possibility of how exciting it is to imagine the
possibilities of Kamala Harris and somebody ticket.
It's exciting.
Johnny, though you reminded too, last night, great guest, Randy Weingart, president of AFT
was on all week, you know, educators amplified teacher Joanna in the House Wednesday, Tuesday,
Wendy Warren, and illusion of equity.
Monday started off with the Wisconsin Public Education Network and Community Schools crew
and the conference.
I mean, I said, there's just so much that this week, we have been, I would say,
to ourselves, we have truly been busting pencils this week, Jess, Johnny, nice way to go.
Hey, eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two.
It is Friday, Tim Stryvia.
The question here, what American breakfast food had its origins in riski, riski, riski
behavior?
How should people submit their answers?
Well, somebody could call or text will take either way, call it in or text, you know,
but I'm going to be like any of these other trivia questions.
It's not going to be a simple, one word answer, you're going to have to come up with the
story.
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Tim Stryvia started off, you know, get it out there.
We said, call, text it in, what American breakfast food had its origins in riski, riski,
riski, riski behavior, I think you probably mean riski, you know, riski, and we'll find
out, but just to throw it out there, I mean, the definition I know or that I have most
of a front in my mind, maybe this is speaking on Friday mind, but riski usually means like
something indecent or shocking, usually sexually suggestive.
So I mean, breakfast, I mean, there's some directions that could mislead the trivia.
We'll certainly see, but I'm really interested because I have no idea, especially in the context
of history of a breakfast.
I'm guessing American breakfast to stick with the theme here Tim, like breakfast is really
different around the world, but American breakfast rooted in some kind of riski behavior.
I don't know, I love sharing though from work on sharing.
She says bacon and sunny side up eggs for the visual.
Tom says bacon to LA, Tom says bacon, no, that is not it.
Now I'm not saying that some of you might have breakfast foods and engaging yourselves
in some form of risky behavior.
That's not what we're talking about.
We're talking about trivia, history, and it is truly American history when we get to the
true answer of this.
The people are going to be like, what are you kidding me?
Yes, it is absolutely going to be something where you're going like holy crap.
Well, we've got suggestions, right?
We got Mark on the line with the suggestion is this related to, is this related to the
breakfast trivia or is it related to just in general, but let's see up from Mark.
We've got Mark on the line.
I kind of heard the riski and riski and debating those and heard the breakfast we think,
but I'd guess cornflakes and there is the difference between riski and riski.
I think there's an actually time between those two because if you engage in the risky
behavior, I think that the cornflakes are based on the clues that I've been given were
avoiding blindness and supposedly the breakfast wouldn't be here to avoid that.
Oh, look at Mark there.
Mark, it sounds like you're adding a little bit to this without at the same time revealing
potentially there, but boy, Mark is right on target right there pretty quickly and yeah,
look, Jess is like really cornflakes.
Oh, no, I knew this.
Oh, I knew that.
No idea.
And Johnny's like, what?
What do you mean cornflakes and risk cornflakes and riski behavior?
Okay.
Yeah.
The answer.
All right, Mark.
We're going to have to give it to Mark on that one because he got it right away.
Cornflakes is the answer just to let you all know in the late 19th century, a visionary
physician named Dr. John Harvey Kellogg.
Oh, I know about the Kellogg's.
Yeah, it was on a quest to change the world starting with breakfast at his famous battle
creek sanitarium in Michigan.
Dr. Kellogg preached the virtues of a simple bland diet.
He believed that spicy inflavorful foods were dangerous and that they could spark passions
and lead to moral downfall.
And to help people achieve physical mural and moral purity Kellogg invented a revolutionary
new breakfast cereal made from corn cornflakes, but there was more to this than just a crunchy
creation than just its health benefits Kellogg was convinced that a plane diet could curb
sexual desires, including the then scandalous act of master bait masturbation.
We could say that word on the radio.
This is hilarious.
Is this Kellogg's mission to you, Johnny?
I mean, yes.
Oh, I mean, I had all these all these slogan sayings that were missed, you know,
mystication to prevent masturbation.
All these different ways that we could have gone with who knew cornflakes were.
Cornflakes A introduced as this, but it wasn't just that he didn't stop at the diet.
He was a fervent.
This is Kellogg, the founder of Kellogg's.
Think of all the other breakfast cereals, but cornflakes specifically, he was an advocate
of celibacy insisting that abstaining from sex was the key to a pure and healthy life.
He also promoted circumcision, not for religious reasons or hygiene, but as a drastic measure
to prevent that act as Mark reminds us could potentially cause blindness, not really masturbation.
Despite these controversies, you'll believe Kellogg's cornflakes became a breakfast staple.
Beloved for their simplicity and convenience, yet if you who enjoyed the cereal knew the extraordinary
story and motivations behind its creation, there it is an American story cornflakes.
Mr. Kellogg, a physician, the whole reason for their
God awful bland nastiness that needs tons of spoonfuls of sugar and all kinds of added
fruits to make it palatable. Well, that was his intention. If you eat bland, then you'll be bland.
And if you're bland, you won't do those things that put your vision at risk.
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Jess, I love that you were sitting there going like, wait, Johnny, you didn't know that.
So you knew this one. I didn't know. Just knew it. I didn't. And you think I would, you know,
they didn't teach us this on the field trip to Kellogg's. You know, just say, Johnny,
you had to have gone there, right? Oh, yeah, we'd go there. It was kind of a regular thing,
like to visit Kellogg factory and go on a tour and, you know, battle creeks not far from Detroit.
And it's certainly not far also from our friends at Western Michigan where we talk to, you know,
our friends there about grow your own in the teacher. I'm going to have there. But yeah,
the Kellogg foundation and the Kellogg, you know, complex over there. I didn't know the history.
I didn't know that there was like a mental health kind of sanitarium thing there. And there were
always some stories, but I'd never heard this one. And, and, and here's another thing to him. I
could have missed that bit of information because field trips were kind of a blur to me. As we know,
I didn't get to go on many of them. And when I did go, I was like the ADHD, you know, it's a
whole trip. It's out of routine. It's, I have a feeling this was not probably part of the field trip.
It probably wasn't one of the placards. When you come into this room here, we're going to tell you
kids about the creation of cornflakes. Now, we know some of you 7th and 8th graders right now
are going to be in desperate need of cornflakes because God. No, my God, stop it. That's getting
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Breaking it down truly because it's been a week. And we said, Johnny, just a reminder,
Monday was constant public education network in the house with community schools talking about
their upcoming conference on July 30th and 31st Tuesday. Wendy Warren in to talk about her book,
the illusion of equity, the history of eugenics in the standardized testing movement Wednesday.
Educators amplified teacher Joe Anna in the house. Childhood. What we do to protect childhood.
Thursday last night, truly an honor. The president of AF2, AFT, Randy Winegarden,
largest, second largest union that represents teachers. And as we heard last night, and I didn't
know this, also all of the support workers in education and the second largest nurses working
union. And Johnny, you really made a, you know, a strong connection to their two and just realizing
that, you know, labor represented through AFT now and in the inclusion of nurses.
And the real feminization, though of those professions and then the idea of moving that into a
labor movement, I thought Randy Winegarden was just like, dude, she was, she was feeling your vibe,
man. Well, Tim, I mean, labor is labor and it's really important to be a union. And I give a lot
of credit to the AFT. And I give a lot of credit to all unions, but I also have a pretty strong
critique of the movement to go from being a union or a federation of, of a profession like
teaching to an association. And I know like every state's got it, the W-E-A, the M-E-A, you know,
the, those are strong teacher unions. But I really, I really was frustrated as a teacher
with the way that they distanced themselves from blue collar. And you know, so it was fun to
really talk with Randy last night and to hear the exciting ways that AFT, who as AFT member,
consistently represented labor in the places, a lot of the associations didn't necessarily seem
to want to. So I thought on those fringes and you've taught in those places where it's not only
really difficult to be a teacher, but it's really difficult to be a union representing a teacher.
The AFT has stayed, tried and true to those places. So as a Detroit public school teacher,
through good and through bad, the AFT was with us all the way. So big props to that. But you know,
it is really important in this moment. We think about labor organizing and we think about the way
that feminized work and care work in this country gets devalued, you know, the same way a lot of
things that are feminized are. It's seen as a put down and that's via, you know, systems like
patriarchy and sexism and that's alive and well in 2024, right? And so really it's really,
it's really fantastic and important to be hearing that nurses and teachers
belong to this massive union, the AFT, right? Just American Federation teachers, right? But
but as Randy told us last night, they're really branding as AFT because AFT have such a large
base in healthcare and in education that there's in and in other things, right? I know that there
are bartenders and there are brew pub employees. There are lots of different organized labor that
are represented in the AFT. And so I loved hearing that because I like that Randy reminded us
to contrast, you know, things to pay attention to contrast. And also to remember, this is a
Dickens moment where things are bad, but there's also a lot of good things like best of times,
it's the worst of times. I'm telling you. What? Johnny, did you do that? Tim, I didn't, but you
know what happens every day on busted pencils, right? You know what happens is we have our democracy
in action, right? Democracy in action every day on busted pencils. Well, today's democracy in action,
Tim, right? Right? Today's democracy in action is truth, right? Link to the core democratic values
of the importance of being truthful and the government should not lie to its citizens. And I
emphasize that because because democracy in action, right, are all of, and there's not a lot of
them. And I hope that as we move into future weeks, there's more of it, but all of the media people
out there who are committing to the truth regardless of accusations that they're not being sensitive
enough to current, you know, politics and moments and politics, we can be honest and truthful
without being incendiary or without being offensive, right? You can report on the truth. And
that's especially important when we're talking about contrasting because there's a lot of
smoking mirrors around, well, this is what the Trump campaign is going to do. And this is what the Biden
campaign hasn't done. And here's the reason why we're in an economic recession is all these kinds
of statements being flown. So today's democracy in action is staying honest to the truth because
the American people in democracy, right? Any people in a democracy deserve the truth not only
from its government, but from all the people who are part of that democracy. And so media folks,
stay true and honest to the truth. But you can do that without being incendiary. We can do that
without without adding rhetoric of political violence. And I know this week was difficult to
report on like the Republican National Convention and things because there were really important
things to be said that are close to the truth. And we can't be afraid to say, hey, Project 2025,
is dangerous for democracy. That is a matter of fact. That is not an attack. That is not, you know,
an hyperbole. That is not incendiary. That is not a rhetoric of political violence. That is just
fact and truthful. But I will say it was uncomfortable and difficult to do especially on the heels
of an assassination. And that does not mean we're condoning that kind of violence. An assassination
attempt is a low moment in any history, especially American democracy. But I give democracy an
action recognition to every person who had to deal with that sometimes uncomfortable, right? Sometimes
unpopular position they were in to report truth to report fact. And that's really important
that we continue to do that, especially as we carry into next week, Tim, and in future weeks,
as we have the Democratic National Convention coming up, we've certainly got everyone in this
country is glued to the next installment. The next chapter of what both parties are doing as we
lead into this election. So that's a big one today. Tim, truth. And that might be an action-elected
picture. Oh, man. Oh, boy. Here we go.
Oh, man, Tim. One of my favorite things about Friday. One of my favorite things about Friday.
Gonna be that sound leading. We've been talking about it almost every day, Tim. We talk about it
weekly. We have a weekly feature. We announce at the end of each week. Only lessons from the 20th
century. Timothy Snyder gives us 20 lessons from the 20th century. Little correction.
Yeah, there you go. Well, last couple of weeks I've been saying it's 20 from the 21st. I mean,
that technically does apply because this is the 21st century and these are 20 lessons that certainly
apply that apply in the 21st century. But we're drawing them directly from my directly from my
man, Timothy Snyder and his book titled 20 lessons from the 20th century. So 20 lessons from
the 20th century. The theme last week was stand up, stand out. Stand up, stand out. So we have a theme
this week, Tim. We have a theme this week. And really it's going to be a tough one. It's going
to be a tough one, but we're going to stick with it. And Tim, it shouldn't be a tough one.
Okay, come on. It's going to be tough because this agreement is at all time high,
but I'm going to make it simple next week's 20 from the 20th. It's going to be to remember
the importance of small talk and connection remembering. I know this is some this is the introverts
nightmare. I know I'm not saying this is just for all my extroverts out there because small talk
can look different. It doesn't have to be like, hey, so how about that weather today? The weather
if you're an extrovert like me, this is like you you live on at least five times a day engaging in
small talk with strangers, but that's not everybody, but the equivalent. That's why I say small talk
and connection. We need to remember, especially in this time where we will disagree and we are
divided and that is in every way a healthy part of a democracy, but a way we can engage in being
healthier together and strengthening the the value of that disagreement is by engaging and
connecting with one another in small talk. Hey, how are you doing? Hey, great to see you. Hey,
it's wonderful to share a coffee today at the coffee shop, right? Or it's great to see or just
thank you for your service because every single one of us, whether we're getting fuel for our car
or getting a meal somewhere or getting checked out at the grocery store or even if you used all
yourself, check out. There's still someone who's got to come over and like, you know, make sure
I can walk over and be like, I see you're getting cornflakes. I mean, just engage in the small
things and the connections. That is a lesson to the Snyder details, you know, in his book offers.
And I think it goes a long way, especially in these moments where we're going to be divided,
we're going to be faced with having difficult conversations. And it's really important that in the
face of really, we're staring down the barrel of a converging on a one party system.
That's not even me saying, oh boy, watch out for the Republicans or old geez, what are the
Democrats going to do? It's like we're converging on kind of this tit for tat angry,
firing back and forth at each other kind of politics. And the result usually is kind of a monolithic
platform. And that's dangerous. So what are the one, what are some of the ways we can, as everyday
folks engage in really generative actions, small talk conversations, simple, hello, simple,
hey, glad to see you and nice to see you this morning. Thanks for delivering my mail mail,
carrier. What is that? I've heard this referred to them potentially. You know, you're just,
it's the way you carry yourself, though, and you say the grocery store, right? Walking into the
grocery store with a forward face that kind of greets people with a smile. And even a smile
can be that opening to small talk because the reality is it's so often we're just like head down.
I got to get my cornflakes. I got to get out of here. No, I mean, whatever. But the whole idea of
just repositioning your head and your eyes and the idea of creating a kind of connection with
people face to face. And then saying, yeah, like the potential like, hey, amazingly hot day out here.
I mean, you can use the weather to engage in small talk. That's one of the best ways to start
that conversation, you know, especially the way it's been lately where if, you know, and now I'm
just imagining myself all the little trips I run down to the grocery store here, holy crap,
you get out of the car. It's a hundred degrees outside. Guess what? You got something to talk about
when you get into the air conditioning of the grocery store. You got something to talk about.
Well, I'm going to be a little bit more, um, how it says utilitarian or practical about this even
even instrumentalize the action of small talk, right? Make an eye contact, make in small talk. It's
not just about being polite, right? It's about being a responsible member of society. It's also a way
for those of you out here might, this might resonate with you for you to stay in touch with what's
happening around us. It's a way to break down social barriers. It's also a way it's a litmus test
of learning who we can and can't trust, right? As we enter, enter this era and we're deep in it,
right? There's a culture, a culture of denunciation, a culture of like I'm not with this and you're
with that, right? You'll want to know the psychological landscapes of your everyday life, right? And so
knowing that like when you say, well, what are we going to do the day after the election? What's
going to be a lot like the day before the election or the election? Because you have a routine of
human connection, right? Where you walk and you already know your people and you'll strengthen one
another and you'll make each other stronger because as L.A. Tom reminds us and court democratic value
popular sovereignty, we the people are the government. All right, we know electoral politics doesn't
always reflect that. That's that's a bigger fish to fry in an important point. But in the wake of
this moment, it's really important for us to know our surroundings and to have connections, right?
And equally important, because I'm not saying it always goes well, but then knowing spaces where
it's not going well, right? So that we have a good understanding of the landscape that we're in.
Busted pencils fully, let it education talk, educated educators talking education, you can jump
into 8557524842 democracy and action 20 from the 20th century, getting that right. And we can
apply them, Johnny. Let's add our own to apply them in the 21st century as you're listening to
busted pencils. So we do every Friday. Stay tuned for more.
Oh, that's the pencils fully, let it education talk, educated educators talking, education.
You can talk to with us 8557524842 LA Tom jumped in really quickly with this. Yeah, it's been a
week TGI BPF. Thank God, it's busted pencils Friday. Last segment of the show, man, lot going on. We
are cramming so much content into every week, every day of the week. And now is I'm even now thinking
of tonight's show, my goodness, the amount of things that are going on.
Amazing, amazing, amazing, again, great week Wisconsin Public Education Network on Monday,
last Tuesday, Wendy Warren, the illusion of equity, eugenics and standardized testing Wednesday,
educators, amplified teacher Joanna. Last night, AFT's president Randy Winegarden and tonight,
Tim Strivia, democracy in action, 20 from the 20th. Wow, we just keep putting it and pouring it on
Johnny's are coming in though too. We're heading into the weekend though, as we think about, you know,
the transition from the Republican National Convention now to this weekend of what's going to
happen. We hear right now, too, all of the discussion on will it be president Biden or will
president Biden pass the torch, which right now there's an organization out there called pass the
torch that have funded a multi million dollar commercial of kids, well, not kids, but you know,
the youth of America, Jess, your crowd out there saying, come on, president Biden, pass the
torch. Jess, if you've seen the ad, I haven't seen the ad, but I have seen people my age and
frankly, a lot of people significantly older than me are going that statement.
But there is something about your age, though, too, that really when I watched that commercial
today, there was something because I saw you, I saw my son, I saw my daughter in that kind of
making that statement of going like, like, dude, you were great, but you're not talking to us.
And right now, we are really concerned. We're really feeling the caution in the project 2025.
And this is a consequential election. And for us who are just, you know, we're 20 something,
we're 30 something. Hey, we're 50 something. And we've got a lot more to go.
And in some ambitions, it's like, come on, man, give us the opening to make this truly a race.
And I just go back to the beginning of the show when LA Tom called in and we just started that
all that idea. Gee, if Kamala Harris was the candidate, who could be the running mate,
just between LA Tom, Johnny, Jess, me, we just started engaging with excitement about wondering who
the possibilities. And just feeling that I got to hope right now, the Biden campaign, I know when
you're listening on the civic media app to busted pencils that you're hearing us tonight,
hear that excitement that we got right there. Take it back. Tell Joe, you know, hey, Joe, turn
off the civic media app for a second. Just for a second. Just for a second, though, we want to pass,
let's pass that torch because man, we's heard excitement when people started imagining. And they
loved what has happened in the last three and a half years. And they just imagine the possibilities
of what can happen in the next four years with that kind of saying, passing the torch, handing it
over Kamala Harris. Let's pick another running mate. And maybe it's not even Kamala Harris.
Maybe there's another one. But the whole idea that that brings us back to an inspired sense of
going, man, because I tell you, we have an opening. And I hate saying the we as if I'm on a team
because I guess I am, but the opening last night, I was feeling doomy and gloomy all week
this week because I kept watching. And I said, I disagree with nothing about what they say makes
any sense, but they were on message. They were delivering a really tight convention with a lot of
like holy crap that came off of that assassination attempt on President Trump and really put forward
this, this messaging machine. Or it's like, man, we are truly, we, those of us who would like to not
see the effing guy get reelected again. I was feeling like I was on the ropes, man. I was feeling
like it's on the ropes. And then he got up there last night and just rambled for like 90 minutes
about 93 minutes. I mean, oh, but during those 93 minutes, he opened the door again
to make the opportunity to come in and go, first of all, he let us know everything he was about
master, the master deportation. Okay. This is, this is a guy who in his acceptance speech literally
went out there to talk about, hey, we're not going to allow men to compete in women's sports
as transient. I mean, this is the content of who the character of what they're standing for.
It came out bold. No, it didn't come out bold. It came out kind of sloppy and kind of like
garbled and rambled. Yeah, garbled. And there were a couple of times. I was like, man, the dude
sweating a lot. He looked, he looked rough. But come on there, the Democratic party, not the
Democrat party. See that L.A. Tom, I've been listening to you. We're out there, though. We've got
a real opportunity here, though. And we do this all the time. Exciting opportunity. Yeah.
It's exciting. A lot of colors today who are all calling in with their best picks. People are
excited and engaged. My goodness, we can do that said Biden campaign. We know you're out there.
We know you all have downloaded the civic media app and we know you're paying attention.
You know, to all of the shows on civic media, but we know you're always listening to
Boston pencils. And typically too, some of you might even be at that fabled place. The
Monacoa brewery tap room in Madison, Johnny Lupinati, because you know what happens at the
Monacoa Brewing tap room is great conversation about making America with great beer again. I
wasn't going to do it. You thought you thought I was going there, right? No, making beer great
again in America, making Wisconsin great again. You could check out at the at the tap room in
Madison up north at the Monacoa Brewing at the home location. Hey, online at Monacoa Brewing
company dot com. Check it out. You can order their swag, order their beer, order their wine,
order their coffee. Johnny, it has been a week, my friend. And I would say just we have busted
pencils. See y'all next week.