Checking In and Looking Back

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Checking In and Looking Back

Black Convergence · Sat Jul 5, 2025

Okay. Okay. Look. I feel you. Not but like I'm in a club. Hey. Hey. You are two

Zen to 92.7 FM with your girl Brandy Gray said here on the black conversion

show with my special guest Denise Baker Jackson Stevenson. That is not her

whole name, but I get I get a real kick ever say I love it. So anyway prior to

break, we're talking about, you know, the impact really a slavery and the

residual consequences for people known as black on our self esteem and our

ability to see our own worth and our own greatness, which leads to this way of

being in the world where we ask we actually do have opportunities and don't take

advantage of it. And how other people known as black Africans and Caribbean people

will come here and take advantage of the opportunities and the resources and

ways that we may not believe that we can and could, right? But we walk around

with confidence, but lack self esteem and that's based on the history of slavery

and the residual effect about being from being enslaved for 400 years and not

just physically enslaved, but mentally enslaved. Okay. So anyway, let's any

other topic. Y'all want to talk about what came up at the end because we were

kind of wrapping up really quick and I and I cut you off. So Neenie, is there

something I was talking about how to clear, you know, like clearing before you

enter a room, like what's in the way of you showing up as your authentic self?

You know, sometimes we have these thoughts that are clouding our mind of who we

should look like, who we should be, but like, yes, who we are. But if we take the

time to really think about who we really are, you know, have some rebuttals for

ourselves, you know, before and as a way to prepare when you come into the room

and just being able to be outside of yourself. Yeah, being able to observe

yourself. Yes. Yeah. Not worrying about how you look. Not worrying about, do I

have to show up perfect? Do I have to, you know, should my body look like this?

You know, all the different things that we could probably relate about as women.

Yeah. And then we get to walk into the room and we get to just be. Yeah, I like

it. What about you Denise? I like the fact that you say we get to, we get to

yeah, I always think like every day I wake up and I choose to go somewhere and be

in a place I get to. Yeah, yeah, have to. And that's really honest. The guy will

change my whole outlook on the world. I don't have to be stressed out about

the you don't. And we've been talking a lot about this with our urban triage

staff because we do personal development and trauma recovery in the work, which

can be a little, it's a hard balance with people because it's a hard, it's hard to

be accountable for how you're showing up, right? And we like to give excuses. But one

of the things that's come up a lot in the last week for our staff is this already always

listening way of being where you, someone's talking to you in a very nice tone. Maybe

the email is really friendly, but you still take it as aggressive, right? Or someone's

talking to you about something or they're just short. Like, nope, that's not going to

work for me. And now you're like, I don't know why they're talking to me like that.

And it's not them. It's you. It's your tone. It's not your tone. It's your perception

of them. Is there your filter? You're already always listening for them to be a certain

kind of way like a brandy. You're always listening for me to be aggressive. So even when I'm

nice and sweet, you miss it, right? And then you're like, Oh, she's so aggressive. That

was so hard. But it's because of your perception and your filter and not necessarily what's

actually occurring in the now. And it is through your healing and your ability to deal

with your darkness where you find your peace. And when you find peace, then peace shows

up. And this is think about even showing up in a room and just you get to be there, but

you actually don't get to be there until you heal you. Yes. Because even if you walk

in that room without your with your unhealed parts and you don't you affirm yourself, I'm

I'm supposed to be here. I'm worried that I'm enough. It's going to show back up because

you haven't done the work to get into discovery of what your your triggers are and how

your nervous system is programmed to be. Now, this doesn't mean that you stop being

that way because Brandon Grayson has to check herself all the time. But now you're aware

of your way of being. So when you do follow your face, you can say to the people around

you and that you love like, Hey, let me get back in integrity because I know the way

that I showed up wasn't my best self. You know, and that's where the accountability

piece comes in. Yes. I'm not even going to go ahead. I don't want to have you got

to share what you want to share because that's when it's authentic genuine conversation

girl. Just say it. Okay. So it's real. And like we could feel it. So what girl? Go

here. We'll take you back. Okay. So bring your back real quick. When you were saying

triggers. Yes. You just said a lot. Yeah. I'm kind of jumping everywhere. Yes. Okay.

But people don't know I work for urban triad. Yeah. You did. And it was for like a month

and a half. Yeah. She kept me. Look, she jumped in and jumped out. But she's so long

stuff. We don't want this. We got a part too. So you could continue. Just start, girl.

We don't have to come back and talk about this on another level. But seriously, like

triggers. Yeah. Because when I first met you. Yeah. I still think this of you. Yeah.

I think you're just such a brilliant light in the world. I love both people. Yes. I'm

just learning how to be bold. Yeah. And I think my problem was I was like, I was just

going through a lot. Yeah. And I was triggered. And I I received information in the way

I received it. Yes. And then I responded. Yeah. Do you see what I'm saying? And then

like it's it to the outside world. I was like, ooh, mental illness. But when you're not,

I guess it's just so much I want to say. Yeah. But when you're like used to people,

like you say, people just think I'm aggressive. So all the time, I'm going to be aggressive.

Yeah. You just take that and you tell yourself something in your mind and you answer the

questions for the person. Oh, yeah. And you just decide on your own that this person

is not going to care about what. And that's just not the truth. And I just want to piggyback

off what you were saying. Yeah. Why? You could say people do it, but like in a black community.

Yeah. Like we just don't trust each other. Like we don't trust our because we don't trust

ourselves. The emotion. But we don't trust ourselves. Right. So when you get good people that

come in your world, they feel fake. You got to be fake, right? Like people tell me all the time

before they got to know me that you got to be fake because like you can't be this actual person

who cares about people. Like you're actually not going to hold space for this. You're not going

to give me another child. You're not going to give me a break or you're not going to because people

don't do that thing. Okay. I honest to God, that's how I feel. Yeah. Oh, it was. I felt like she's

not going to care about what. And that's crazy. And you know, what's so crazy about that is that

that's all I do is care about our people. Like and we're going to hold space. That's

that's what urban trash is based on. But we're going to continue this this conversation next Saturday

y'all say to them. They're going to be our guests for part two. It is going down. We're going to get

more into the conversation on relationships. I think this was a great start to provide the

content on the dynamics of people known as black because we want to do our best not to cause harm.

So now I think we're ready to move to part two. And let's get into the nitty-gritty of relationships

next Saturday. Tune in next Saturday 11 a.m. 92.7 F E with your girl, Brandy Gracie!