All right, y'all. It is your girl returning to 92.7 and bam, the black conversion show. Brandy Grayson
with my hostess, coastess with the most this client. He's sorry, your favorite cousin. I do. I'm sorry,
y'all. We've been here to all morning. We've been here five minutes. Glad you laid like a
lot. I apologize. Okay, Chad. What you want to talk about our last conversation? We were talking
about the nuances of relationships, not relationships of, you know, gender dynamics and general, you
know, trends that we're seeing in our world in different places and coats that we used to have
values we used to stand for. That's no longer present. Not like the it needs to be in my opinion.
And then we want to transition into another tough and muddy conversation, which is related to what?
We are going to transition into trans women and men attraction. If you have been on social
media, Twitter, Facebook or TikTok, you've probably saw down your timeline a very, very different
conversation between Nini Leaks and T.S. Madison. If you don't know who these individuals are,
they are personnel. Nini Leaks is a very popular woman from Real Housewives of Atlanta.
And T.S. Madison is a prominent trans woman in the LGBTQ community. So the conversation was
Nini Leaks. It was a big conversation, but Nini Leaks had said she could never date a man who dates
trans women because she has just this weird speculation that he might be gay. And so T.S.
jumps in and responds until Nini Leaks that if a man is attracted to a trans woman that doesn't
necessarily make him gay, he is just attracted to women. And so Nini Leaks in so way in so many ways
was just a little confused and was like, what do you mean if he's attracted to a trans woman that
he's attracted to women? And T.S. Madison was trying to tell Nini Leaks like trans women
is women, right? I think sometimes we give men a lot in a way where we actually think they're
really, really smart. And I'm starting to realize like men are actually not that smart. So when
the man see a passable, and this is what we say in the community, passable means very fishy,
very woman like trans, they will just be attracted to the feminization of that person. And so Nini
was still like, wait a minute, I'm still confused because once he finds out or whatever the case
didn't be, and T.S. Madison was just basically like, he doesn't know at that moment. That is a
one. And a lot of times they don't care. Yeah, yeah, exactly. They're their frequency. But
but in so many ways that led to so many conversations and one of the really cool conversations that
it led to was also T.S. Madison said, dark skin women should kind of tone down the transphobia
because once the trans women are knocked off of the totem pole, the next crime is black women.
Yeah, that makes sense. And so a lot of people tried and was like, wait a minute, are you trying
to compare me to trans women because I'm dark? Is this colorism or whatever the case would be?
But T.S. Madison was just basically saying, when you look at the rates of murder and the sling of
black women, a lot of the cases, the man and their this has recently happened killed a black woman
who was a female. And so that told the police because he thought she was trans. And she was just
walking down the street. And it was actually a female. And people might need the court, the
correlation between female and women. So it's really creep. I don't even have a word for it,
but the hate is deep. Yeah. You know, and it's a deep seeded hate of self-first because why would
you need to kill something because someone want because you think it because you think she,
she's a trans person like, I don't I don't understand what kind of level of hate it is. But I will
also say that it has to be self-hate because deep down you're attracted to trans women. And that
upset you. And now you're mad at you. And then become your target for abuse. I often wonder how
that works too. And like, hetero relationships because, you know, like I've mentioned, I've been
an abusive relationships where men have gotten physical not because I did something, but it's like
the need to shrink you. Yeah. And I feel like it's related to insecurity. And I think one of
the things you say is that, like you said, is like some men who really deep down hate women
are normally men who sleep with other men. No, seriously. And in my god, y'all, this is too much for me,
it's not. But we can we we want to make sure we are creating a space for people to understand,
right? And so what we mean by that is like, we do normally see in our community in the LGBT
gay scene that most men who is homophobic or who has this general hate for women normally is
attracted to other men. We need some data on this. Go to church. Okay. I'm going to have to get it.
But I had said two things that I also want to clarify because I think a lot of times in the world,
we get these two things mixed up. So in our eyes and the black LGBTQ community, we see women as a
social construct. Anybody can consider themselves a woman. It doesn't have anything to do with their
actual born sex identity. And then as the word female within our community, that is a woman that
is born with a vagina. So biological terms. Yes. Yes. I get so okay. In in in political spaces,
they say not to call a woman a female because it's disrespectful to honor her by her. What she
wants to be called. Right. And and because you don't call males, men, males, you say men, you say
that's a man or what the men are doing. You don't never you never hear people say males. It's not
something that you do, but you often hear people refer to women as females. And just so you guys know
it's disrespectful because women are more than their genitals. You know, so it's it's to me being a
woman is not just a social construct. It's an embodiment, right? A embodiment of certain types of
energies and vibes and ability to move in the world. So I'll just say that and I won't go to
indefinite. Um, but that's all I got to say about that. And for me with that being said, and
please you guys don't choke me. He said, I do not I do not agree with everything. He said, right?
Yeah. But with what she just said, I totally for me feel like sometimes that can't be duplicated.
Right. Like what the women have and how they move throughout the world and what they bring to the
world that can't always be duplicated by men and males. So yeah, I honor women. And that's why
I say that I honor women. I honor females. I honor women and I honor the things that they bring
to the world. So don't choke me for saying that. But I don't think that a person is not a woman
can do. Okay. My mama. Oh Lord, it's so complicated. See, that's why we need trans person. We're
under the team. This conversation. Yes, we will because I think it's a necessary conversation,
especially for black people because we we're more conservative than you think. Yeah. And we are
problematic. So thank you for joining us here on the black conversion show. Next week is going to
get really juicy. Make sure you tune in with your host is with the most this great great fan. Sorry,
in your favor, cousin Clyde. Peace, love my hair, Grecia.