All right, you're tuned in to 92.7 FM with your girl,

Randy Grayson, on the Black Conversion show with my

cousin, cousin, cousin, and I'm bad. Okay, whatever, I

don't know he's my favorite. He's the one I love to hate.

Huh, people was filling my job, man, and stuff like that.

But April's coming back to, so April could get a shout out to

you for showing up for the no show co-host co-host clad who

don't call in. He's a no-call no show type of host, you

have to wear. I was on vacation y'all. You can't have a job,

and I tell you a job, you going on vacation. That's true.

That's true. I put a look. Luke didn't go on vacation

without us. I did. I told you that I'm almost positive.

I told you that we don't do that. I don't remember. We just

showed up and we was like, where's Luke? I'm like, who is

this? The show got recorded. We were all good. It's not the

same. I know, right? It's not the same. You interact with us.

You know us. I received, I received a compliment saying that I

don't know if the term was like thrown around or not, but me

as the resident white guy. Yeah, yeah, that's that. I got a

compliment about that. Yeah, because we were like, where's our

white guy? Yeah, this isn't the same white guy. I thought the

man, another white guy was going to walk in and say, we have to

let Luke go out. Wait, what? It's true, but we're so happy to be

here with you this morning. Yes, yes, yes. I'm excited to have

Cuzzle Clive back. We have so much to catch up on so much

tea, because you all know we like the tea. And then we like to

talk from a perspective of our opinions, because that's all

that really matters. Oh, I like that. So for if you're new

listener to the black conversion show, I am Brandy Grayson, the

founder and CEO of Urban Triage. Yes, yes, yes, check us out

in Cuzzle Clive. Who the heck are you? I am the founder and CEO

of the House Urban Arts Initiative. Two big bosses in the

building. Big B's. I don't know about big balls. I'm a middle

boss. Man, listen, bring me on the full chain. This is my

mentor. Okay, I'm her mentee. That's how big that don't say a

lot for him. Because we're thriving and striving. But thank

you for tuning in and urban triage is a nonprofit organization

centering vulnerable families. The work that we do is rooted in

homeless work, housing work and transformative education. We

also run a farm and we teach people how to farm. We teach people

how to enter agriculture fields to make money. Because we're

also all about economic empowerment. Clyde, what do you do?

Like what does your house think our mission is to provide

performing art technical classes and trainings to black and

brown youth and adults? We kind of lean in on just what it is

to serve vulnerable family. And that comes with a lot. So a

lot of politics. Yeah, yes. So we are one of a kind together.

And we're also the folks that people love to hate because

y'all love us and hate us at the same time. Like, oh, I love

what you do. And I hate you. I hate that you're always

speaking your truth. I hate that you actually have an opinion.

Yeah. And I hate that you don't fit into the social constructs

that we gave you here in Madison, Wisconsin. So I think

we make a perfect pair. And as long as Clyde shows up for

work, we'll be all right. So what we like to do, what we like

to do to start off our show is to talk about love because love

is so political. And for us, Clyde, as a queer guy, do you

identify as a queer guy? How do you identify a black man first,

a black man first? Oh, a sissy second. I'm not repeating that.

Wait, look, can we say sissy on here? Let's check.

I'm gonna have to double check. I think we're in a I think

we're in okay. I'm a queer man second, I guess. Okay,

because I'm like, I don't know if gay dude, is it politically

correct for you to walk around? Just can say that, right?

They just like black folks in the end. Okay, you could say in

a word, right? But I can say it, right? It depends. I got to

take you to the, to the, to the basement. So we know Luke can't

say. I'm sure I'm definitely not. Luke as your whiteness, you

know, is always first. Obviously. Yeah, what will happen, Luke,

if you caught right, you go cry, you're not your friend anymore.

Yes, like Lucas. I wouldn't do that though. That's something I

would do. Boys get all about that. I would do that. Okay, so

what in black love or love period, are we going to focus on

today? And for our listeners, you are tuned into 92.7 FM, the

black conversion show. Yes, today, we have three topics. One is

interracial relationship. Oh, that is a touchy. I touch you

one, but we're going to touch on it. We about the touch of own

black and white people date. Yeah, you know, that's what we

mean, we're being Asian and black around. We had to educate

you, you know, we had to give you what we got. I'm about to I'm

about to pee off Clyde, though, because you know, we have

different opinions about interracial. We do. Relationships and

what's with these statistics? They don't go ahead. Go ahead.

And the second one we're going to talk about is poly relationships

and monogamous relationships. So let's get right into it.

I got that much. Okay. So let's start with interracial

relationships and love our bookie whatever. So I have this

stance that I take on interracial relationships. And it might

offend people, but that's what this show is about. It's about

offending you. So if you're listening, keep listening. If I

haven't offended you yet, I will. So part of my analysis, I'm

not going to say believe I haven't really dated outside of my

race, except when I was younger, because when you young you

experiment and I experiment a lot, and that's none of your

business, what I experimented with. However, I did, you know,

data, a couple of white dudes. And I got to say, like, I wasn't

serious about them because when I was 20 years old dating,

everything was for fun. I never. Okay, even though people

would like, I love you. I'd be like, so what? It doesn't matter.

So it really wasn't that serious. But what I think about

interracial relationships, I think the dynamics are different

when it's a black woman and a white man. Okay. And I also think

it's different when it's a white woman and a black man. And the

reason I say this is because when you bear children, when you

have children, the predominant person or the person that does

most of the child rearing and kind of like the values in the,

you know, just the way the kids, you know, interact in a

world from my perspective is the mother. The mother's the one

that's kind of the nurturing one, the one who provides the almost

like the intelligence, because I think science says that you

get your intelligence from your mom. Okay, because women rock.

And then we also provide kind of like the social context we

talk about we're more likely. This isn't an absolute statement

because I know you guys, we're like, there's nothing for

everybody. It's not an absolute statement. I'm just saying

that generally speaking, women are the ones that may talk to

their kids about misogyny, patriarchal, patriotic feminism,

white supremacy, racism, the dynamics. So black women are more

likely to install or direct their children in the pathway of

their identity. So if they have a white father, they're still

going to show up in the world as a most likely, not absolute,

most likely identifying as a black child, because they represent

and reflect their mother, right? I see where you going. And then

if you have a white woman who has black children and by

racial children, they raise them. Those kids grow up to be

white women. So you see how he took it to a string. So what I

was going to say is they will reflect their mother's values. So

they will often interact in the world, even if they say I'm

black, they will often interact in the world, like Clag said,

as a white woman. Yeah. And if there's a if it's a male

identifying child or young adult or whatever, that person will

then identify with white values, right? And not

he's still a white woman. Okay, okay. So I'm gonna let go

headclad your thoughts. So interracial dating and getting the

whole five minutes, because I see where this is going. It makes

sense. It does make sense. And so I get it when you're saying, so

for me, my stance on it is I do value black people. Yes. And I

think that the building up of black families are so important,

especially now, right? Like diversity is a huge thing, but

living in Madison, Wisconsin, what I have found is that

diversity just has not worked for the favor of black people.

Okay. And so I always strongly encourage black men to date,

black women or black women to date black men. My thing here is

all of what Brandy said is correct. But what we have here is

that when folks are dating outside of their race, that person

also becomes that race for some reason. I don't believe all of

that. I don't mean black women are around here becoming white men.

Oh, they become a white women because, baby, I was somewhere

the other day, Hobby Lobby. And this is going to take me 30

seconds. I promise Hobby Lobby. There was a white man and a black

woman. You could tell that they were dating. There was a elder

white woman who had a service dog. And the service dog kind of

walked up to the couple. And the way the sister in this man

treated that dog, I looked at the sister like, wait a minute,

we don't treat dogs like that. But you mean that she let them

go in the mouth? No. The dog just walked up to them. I love

dogs. Baby, this was a little chihuahua. Yes, little tiny

service dogs. They were acting as if it was a lion. Like, oh my

god, I don't let the dog get by us. And the old lady was just

that's weird. And I was just looking at the sister like, what

is she acting like that? So you mean that's a white trait to

not like dogs? Not to not like the white people love dogs

treat a elder person. Yes. But to treat a elder person with a

service dog like that, I just feel like black folks are very way

more compassionate than that. And she was like, ill get your

dog. And I was like, I thought she would have calmed the white

husband down like, relax, baby, it's just a little dog. Okay,

so that doesn't prove your point. It does not point at all

about interracial. It was an example of how when black folks

date white folks, they start to act like they better than

everybody around me because of the dog. Okay, so I would need a

better example of that that that that theory that you're holding

dogs matter. But why people love dogs climb? Why? They will they

will put you in jail and under the boat for a dog. Yeah, you

know, and in for a black person, they will not give the same

attention or treatment as they would or protection as they would

for a dog. So that that theory you have is out the door. Okay,

listeners, I do not concur with cousin Clyde on that. I don't

be treating dogs like that period. Okay, so we're talking about

love here, right? Because love is political. And when we talk

about interracial dating, you know, my perspective is black

women should be able to because I'm biased black women should

be able to date whoever we want, because we only black women

well, I'm talking from black perspective, I ain't got no say

so about brown women Asian women. Anybody in between

so black women should be able to date white men. Yep, we

show should and wait till we get to these statistics because we

about to I'm about to drop some statistics on you because we got

a little bit of time and we're not right now when we know when

we come back because you're going to be mad when it's statistics

show black men can't date white women black men can't date

whoever they want. I'm saying that the impact on rearing

children and having white women rear children who don't have

experiential experience being black usually leads to more

harm to the child. They have identity issues. They don't know

if they black or white. They don't know how to fit in. They

don't know how to calm their hair. They don't know how to take

care of their skin. They don't know how to be in black spaces.

I've had the most trouble as a nonprofit leader with a

biracial women raised by white women. And I say that because

our organization talks a lot about race and we touch a lot

about accountability and awareness. And they act like white

women. They have they're very fragile. They have breakdowns

they complain like Karen's when it comes to accountability.

And then they go into the world and say, Oh, she did this

thing. And they see us see me as a black dark skinned leader

as the same way as their mother would. They're very intimidated

by me uncomfortable by me. As if I went on with black women

raised by racial women raised by black women. Yeah, their

response to me is different. Do you understand? So we can get

onto this in a minute. You're tuned into the black conversion

show. Your favorite host is with the most is in my favorite

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Right on time.

Lobby, I'm safe bringing back your two that's a 92.7 FM

the black conversion show with your girl, Brandy great

and then cousin Clyde cousin Clyde like to talk when

up. So you just got to excuse him. You know what I'm saying?

But Beyonce got me back excited. I say makes everything

right in sight. Okay, including your abs. Okay, anyway, so

before we went on break, we were talking about interracial

dating. And I want to let y'all be let come on, Luke, just

play the clip. Y'all got to hear the statistics with

interracial dating and marriage, really. It's about marriage

and where do you statistics come from? I don't know, some white

man. So the white man said it got me. Okay, Luke, go ahead

with the statistics. We Google it.

statistic white guys view black women differently than

black guys. And the statistics don't lie. Interracial divorce

rates. This is pretty interesting. A black man and a white

woman are 200% more likely to be divorced. An Asian man in a

white woman are 59% more likely to be divorced. An Asian

woman and a white man are 4% more likely to be divorced. But

this is the crown of the study. A white man and a black woman

are 44% less likely to get divorced. Okay. Hmm. Pretty

interesting, isn't it? Pretty interesting. My sister is an

interesting statistic white guy. Okay, let's let's talk about

this. Okay, because 44% to 59% less likely to get a divorce.

So black women do better marrying or not do better, because

that's a whole jump there. However,

you're like, wait a minute. And that is from an account

called red flag awareness. So we're looking for a

Google. Yeah, Google it. It's a red flag. So black women are

less likely to get a divorce when they marry white men. Now

let's break this down. And this is going to be a opinion

base. I ain't didn't know experiments and ask no surveys

or quantify nothing. Okay, but this is what I think as a

black woman, I think that when black women marry white men,

one, there's not the trauma from the man, right? So black

people generally speaking come with a lot of trauma and a lot

of healing we need to do in order to be in healthy relationship

with each other. And there's a lot of stuff we have to work

through. And when you're with a white man, that white man ain't

got to work through none of that trauma. That white man is

considered the support system. And he's he is the symbol of

malehood and maleness. That is the, that is the reference

point we all use to identify and to demonstrate what man

this is. And it is the prototype of white men. And that's

because we exist in white supremacy. So from this perspective

of the black woman, she's been wanting this prototype of a man

all her life. And a black man could never live up to that

prototype. I don't know about that. Well, because the black man

isn't allowed to, they don't have the privilege to influence

or the power. Even when that black man becomes Jay Z, you

you still can't go in any room and get you and go take a

billion dollars and invest. They will move against you. You

still don't have the respect in the business industry, even

when you're a billionaire, a millionaire. And they've talked

about this. I've watched podcasts with them and how they've

had to have five billion dollars to enter this hedge for

and they would, they would like block them. But you would a

white man, but that's not the black man's fault. No, no, this

isn't about fault. This is just about what it is. And we need

our sisters to be a little bit more sensitive to that. Okay,

we didn't go get in that conversation. Yeah. So what I'm

saying is that when a black woman, we have to get a divorce.

Okay, thank you. Because I mean, you might cousin anyways, I

don't know what's legal for us to be married. Okay, but we

talk about that in a minute. So I think because of that, like

a white man can be the prototype of a male because that's

what's been indoctrinated in our head. Yeah. And that is the

construct that we've been fed through white supremacy. And the

black woman, and my opinion has always, you know, we're

fears, we're confident. And whatever you give to us, we will

multiply. Okay, so if you give us a home, we're going to make it

more than a house. Okay, you give us children, we're going to

give you an army, right? If you give us wealth and success, then

we're going to take something and invest it and do something

really dope and because we're going to build an empire. So I

think for and white women, I don't know who I don't know y'all

like that. I only know y'all from the perspective of working

in politics and carrots, right? And the white gaze and social

words. And in places in industry where y'all caused a lot of

harm. Yeah, excuse me, to black bodies and innocent,

invulnerable people. So how I register and read white

women is y'all always want more, right? You always want more.

And I don't know if it is never enough. So I don't know if

they back in their white husbands, like black women are

because we're just excited to have the respect and the access

to influence and power. So I think those that dynamic is

different. Now, I'm not judging it and saying it's right or

wrong. I'm just I'm just simply explaining my analysis around

the dynamic. Okay, cousin clad. Go ahead. What's your what's

your opinion? So speaking back off of that. So were you listening

to black conversion show 92.7 FM with your cousin clad in

Brandy Grayson, we're talking about the statistics that basically

say black women stay married to white men longer than anybody else.

So cousin clad, what's your opinion on that black women

dating white man longer than anybody else? Hmm. You know what, I

don't know. I feel like I agree with what you said. I agree

with what you said. Um, you are correct, right? I do think

that black women because they're just socially, how can I say

program to support being a little bit sometimes been a lot?

We are, we are conditioned to bend a lot. Yeah. And I think

men, yes, we are. And I think that when we win a black, when

a black woman gets with a black man, she has to still do that

work. We do, but it's a different kind of bending. Yeah, we're

bending and we're not getting the support because they're so

broken and damaged. And we've been raised to be the backbone

of our families, our children, everything. And so then when

they, like you said, when they get with a white man, it's really

none of that, right? He comes with that social power. He comes

with that family support system. And the white woman actually

gets to breathe. And I think the black woman actually gets to

breathe. And that takes away those stressors that takes away

those, let's get to the divorce table. It helps her build an

empire. Right, build an empire. And I think too when black men

do have privilege and influence in class and black women, you

know, are part of that development and building that empire,

empire, the statistic show what? Just just assume what do they

show? Once the black man gets to where they are, or drops the

sister and get to white woman, Kanye told y'all that. We see

it. We see it. We see it all the time. And what did Kanye do?

Kanye was went dropped his black woman and got with him a

Kim Kardashian. Yeah, that might have been one of the smartest

moves. So that might not be a good reference point. Cause I

think Kim helped build his empire. She did. Because that was a

very supportive wife. How do you know that? Watching the

Kardashians, girl. I follow the card. I did not listen. I

used to keep it up. Keep it up with the Kardashians. I swear, I

used to like envy them like everybody else, right? And then when

I finally start watching, keeping up with the Kardashians

last year. Uh huh. The girls is actually down the earth. They

down the earth. Yeah. Really? Yes. Like people look at them

wrong. But they actually got a kid. Don't buy racial kid. Don't

be a problem. Mass. The kids going to be in the world doing

all kinds of crazy stuff. I love how the mother has built a

sisterhood. Those girls are tight and they stick together. And

when they go to adversity, oh, they stick together. Like it's

like, nope, we are going to huddle up and leave the world up out

of it. So I like to thought about the Kardashians. Yeah, yeah,

forget the Kardashians back to black people. Hey, I think I

think what we have to really do in our relationships with

each other, black male and black woman, or they are them

together is that we really have to be conscious of our own

pain and our trauma. And we have to do our work individually.

And you have to make a decision because you can't turn a man

a boy into a husband. Yeah. And I think too many black women

are spending too many times. A girl in a white. You cannot and

that's right. You cannot. So I say this to y'all find you

someone who already is committed to doing the work and know

that they have work to do. Yeah. And if they don't have those

attributes, leave them alone. Yeah, because I love my man and I'm

here to support him. But baby, if you don't do the work, I'm

out. Peace, love and hair grease. Okay, you're tuned into the

black conversion show with your girl Brandi Grayson and cousin

Clyde will be back with some moti in the gym. He's

going to be a star for me. All right, y'all, y'all tuned into the

black conversion show on 92.7 FM with your girl Brandi Grayson,

the hostess with the most is in my sidekick. Your favorite cousin

Clyde. I married to my cousin, so we over here live in

dry clean. Okay, so we're just wrapping up on the conversation

regarding interracial dating, black love. I think I won that

conversation. I just want to say, because I'm single, so she

knows my. We gonna let's move into the conversation about

one of our favorite persons that's running for office.

A Kamala here is vice president Kamala here. Is it I say her

name right? You do. I'm happy I didn't have to say Kamala.

Kamala. I've been practicing y'all better put the Kamala in the

love. Okay. I write my girl Kamala. So anyway, I so I know

we have this conversation about the legitimacy of her blackness

because we love to like take black women and then talk about

like things about them. But then we have people that can

infiltrate our race anytime. They don't even look black at

all. I mean, she got brown skin. Some of y'all out here giving

white women in our own community. I ain't gonna say no names.

Tell me why I thought she was black. Since we since we black

as she go to the tan and booth and give Botox and got a butt

job and a bee and put a few curls and a few curls. And now y'all

talking about she gets a invite to the barbecue. Yeah. And a

lot of times that's them black men, but we ain't gonna get on

y'all right now. Okay. So let's just stick to our conversation

around Kamala. So Kamala has been showing up. I love her. I

just love how she bounced back. And I just can't wait until

she debate Trump. So there's this quick clip. So she's like

at she's gonna she's speaking in Detroit right on her campaign

trail. And there's some haculus. And she just come. She just

snaps back real black like so. Yeah. Let's go ahead and take a

listen to this clip and let me help y'all understand why I was

so blackity black. The hand.

Look, they hated the background. She's sitting there looking

all poised. She's so cute. And then come the haters. I'm

here because we believe in democracy. Okay. She's like I'm

here. Yeah, but I'm speaking now. But I'm speaking now. I

had to do that to a lot of white folks in my meetings. I'm

speaking now. That's you know what? If you want Donald Trump to

win, then say that. Otherwise, I'm speaking. Okay, let's say

that and move on. Okay, so come on now. Come on, let's let's

break this down. Let's break this down. Look, you can turn

off the clip. So the thing about her is that she didn't give

mad man. But she did get like that black woman on T grandma

energy, right? If you want Trump to win, that's cool. But I'm

speaking now, like say that and move around. And that's all you

need to say, right? You need to bully me. You don't need to be

naive. You don't need to be disrespectful. Just say we want

Trump to win. And she's inviting that right on event, right?

Speak your truth and then shut the heck up, right? Because you

know why you hear, but the disrespect is real. But I thought

that was blackity black. What do you think? I love it. Like it's

what we need, right? It's the American. The American people is a

mess. Okay. Let's be clear about that. And in 2024, we're

ridiculous. So we need a president that is going to meet us

right where we are. Ridiculous. She want to be ridiculous. No,

no, I'm saying we are. American people like you at this

person, even booing and all of that. That's kind of ridiculous.

Like you didn't even have to show up. Right. But she knows how to

deal with that as well. Yeah. Right versus Trump saying punch that

guy in the face, being violent. Come on. We did that, right?

Trump got that man punched out at his, at his rally. But that, but

I feel like that was like, let me make him the president. But I

know, not we. Well, I think, well, some of some American

people are a little ignorant. However, I'm going to say, say

this, I feel like white men, Luke, you let me know because he's

our white translator today. Let me know what you think, because

I feel like white men are bothered that they don't have the

right in any longer. And they do on some, you know, spectrum, a

lot of places, but they don't have the right to just go and punch

people in the face. So when they're given permission to be

violent, and Trump gives them permission to give be violent.

Remember the storming of the Capitol? Yeah. And all the police

that came from across the country to storm the Capitol, right?

Like, I feel like he is not about the politics. It's not even

about morals or values. It's like little children wanting the

right to harm people and get away with it. What's your

thoughts, Luke? Yeah, I mean, the way that Trump ran the first

time he told, he told his supporters that if somebody came and

protested at one of his rally rallies, that he'd pay the legal

fees if they knock them out, stuff like that. And they were

excited. And they were doing it. Folks that want to do stuff

like, well, and I don't, I don't believe Donald Trump has ever

paid for any legal fees or any of those altercations, either

those was kind of a lot of hot air around that. But I see a lot

of folks that really welcome that spirit. And it is disgusting

because they wanted that green light and somebody was giving it

to them. Yeah. And I think it's even more disgusting when we

have black men who support Trump. I was at the mad lit last

Friday. I had a great time at mad lit for folks who are un, you

know, unclear or no mad lit is an event that takes place on

state street. And Madison was concerned. It's a music kind of

fuss. We had they had hip hop and R&B singers and spoken word

it was really, really nice. Posted by you can, you can. Yeah,

I can't fight for my girl. I love Karen. She's a white woman.

See, I told y'all like white people. And that's her real name.

But that I mean that much of that. Yeah, she ate that kind of

Karen, you know what I'm saying? But we love Karen and Rob

D's is also part of that. So shout out to one. Yeah, shout out

to pain one and Rob D's. We appreciate y'all. And again,

you're tuned into 92.7 FM, the black conversion show. So

anyway, I was at this event mad lit and there was this black

dude. And I'm about to, I'm about to say something that might

be offensive. But he was dingy looking. And he had this pink

short set on with a jacket and people who are looking y'all

probably know who he is now. I'm not saying his name, but I

am scared. But this dude basically was like brandy, you know

that I'm intelligent. And I know that I'm going to vote for

Trump because Trump donated millions of dollars to historical

black and Kamala has never done anything for the black

population or community, but arrest us in jail us. And I'm

like, you are going to vote for a man who wants to take away

your daughter's rights and follow her to the doctor because

they have this whole thing about following kids to the doctor

to the OVGYN. You want to vote for a man that has no sense of

humanity or poise or doesn't have, I don't know, he just

doesn't represent, I don't know, humanist to me. He's like

the anti human person. He's not the person that has a

emotional intelligence like he lacks the ability to not man we

Hitler character. Yeah, like you want to vote for him and you

think you're more safe under this white man than Kamala, do

are they the same wings to the same? Are they different wings

to the same bird? Absolutely. The system is the system.

However, what we have to start doing in my opinion is playing

strategically, you have an opportunity to vote for and put in

office, first of all, a woman, right? And I don't care what

people say, we are entering in and return of the matriarchal

power. And we can get into that, but we don't need to get into

that, that history, new, new, not today, but it is the return

of the matriarch, matriarchal power. I mean, you can see it in

our sports, you can see it everywhere like black women, we're

dominating. And not only that, you should want to support a

different way, and especially something that's not so

disgusting as Trump. And yes, does she arrest people and jail

people? Yeah, that was her job. Absolutely. She did that. And

did she make some mistakes along the way? Absolutely. She

absolutely did that. The real hate, especially from black man

towards Hamala is, I just think that in some cases, black man

hate women. No, all men hate women. I mean, that's the basics

of patriarchy and misogyny. But sometimes black man hate black

women is a real thing. Yeah. It's a lot of the time. Like we

represent for them. Because there's no reason for some of that

outcry to then to address you. Yeah. But like walking walk

because he walked up to me and he was like, you blocked me

off Facebook, you right? I did because I'm crazy to stupidity

on my on my feed. And then he wanted to continue to explain

himself. And I was just ignoring him. And then he kept talking

to people around me so that I could hear him. So I just had to

like, I was joking. I was like, I don't want to do like a

mortal combat and finish him right now, right? Because I'll be

the one that you think we're service. Because I'll be the one

that people video record. And now I'm all on Facebook. Checking

this dude and dragging him down the street. And then y'all

like I told y'all she was an aggressive black woman and can't

be trusted. And look how she did that black man, right? Like

she's just going to do that to him. He deserves to get done

because I can see Brandi. And people rallying around her like

come down. So I was just like, let me go ahead, man, my black,

my black job business. And that's not right. It's not anyway, we

for we for a common little round here. And moving on to

politics, we are in Madison, Wisconsin. And our primaries are

coming up for the Dane County, the state elections, all that

good stuff. So who are you? Well, who are we going on the

balance? Well, we got data, similarly on the balance. I think

Luke got a list for us. What we got going on? Yeah. So this

August 13th primary 13th. So get y'all butts out and vote.

If you can vote, please vote. Go vote. Please vote is local.

You have more power in local politics than you ever do when

you vote for the president of the United States. So get your

black, up your white, up and go vote. Okay. Okay. Go ahead,

Luke. Go ahead. You can say ass. You can say ass. He didn't

send me so I don't know. We are in Carson at all. That's fine.

We leave it in like that though. But there are state assembly

races around Dane County that are all contested since it is a

more democratic meeting area. This is kind of the general

election almost for these seats because there's a lot of

Democrats running. And whoever wins these democratic primaries

are going to be more or less the likely winner come November

because of the districts do favor Democrats here in Dane County.

Oh, that's right. So if you if you're looking to make like you

said, a large impact and who represents you come next year, now

is the time to be looking at these races. So we got state

assembly races, state Senate races. We have a Dane County

executive race. And there's two really important ballot

initiative questions on the balance. Yep. So there's two

constitutional referendum questions that will change the

constitution. They're worded really, really strangely, it

kind of acts like a checks and balance saying, well, the

legislature should get a little bit more insight on how

emergency funds are operated. It goes back to the pandemic.

Republican lawmakers were really upset that Governor Tony

Evers was the individual that got to disperse the federal

funds from from both Trump and from Biden because both

both presidencies gave out emergency relief funds. But

Evers and the governor's office gets to disperse them. So

they want to take that power away. There's a there's a lot

of interesting stuff that you can read about this. So vote

no, there's a there's an op-ed over at civic media. US, you can

check that out. Matt Rothschild, the Wisconsin democracy

campaign explains why he's voting no, you can learn about

those, but those two questions will be on the ballot as well.

No, because every time they put something on a referendum,

they always worded in a very confusing right, right? And

they always worded in a way that, you know, average voter in a

person doesn't understand the language. So we sometimes

be like, oh yeah, more power. Yeah, you should, you should,

you should make sure the money is spent right. But it's an

illusion. So folks, make sure August 13th, you go to your

polling booth and you vote and you vote no, so I'm going to

tell you who else. I'm going to tell you what the vote for

no, no, no, no, no, they gotta, they gotta pay for that. You

go, you vote no. And then let's talk about state assembly. So

we got my girl, my peer sent.

My, my period, period, period, and she's going against Sheila

Stubbs, which is also a black woman in our community. She's

been holding her seat for a long time. I don't know how many

years, but long enough for her to get up. Okay, and the reason I

say that is because sometimes we get so, especially, no,

it's yeah, and then sometimes in Madison, we get comfortable

with comfortable and we like to keep people in status quo,

people who don't push the push to envelope. And I'm about the

appeal of some of our elders with this, but I think you should

vote for my appearance and because she's innovative, she's

young, she's part of the community, she's in the community,

she's not, she's not rooted in her, like rooted in the

politics of whiteness, where Sheila Stubbs is, if you see a

resolution for her and her, whatever she, what are the things

they write in state assembly resolutions? Resolutions and laws

and resolutions and laws. She never wrote a law about black

people, but she do write a lot of resolutions about our

hair, because that's easy. That's the easy conversation, right?

And it's, it doesn't matter. So we need folks that are going to

make resolutions and in community and in community, create

laws that matter and directly impact us also vote for Dana

Pelamon for county exec. And the reason being is because she

has the management skills, the history, she's connected to

all kind of communities, not just black communities, but

she's been in Madison for over 30 years, doing the work of

communities, doing the work of social work, the community

doesn't have to call me because I'm already in the

community. Melissa Argard, she spent a lot of money. I know

y'all love her. That lady hates my guts. I don't know why she

said, no, she told somebody that she doesn't like me because I

ran against the revamping of the jail that's spending $200

million and I made her mad. Like girl, I am the community in

the sense of if you want to connect to the people you say you

out to serve, you shouldn't be out here communicating. But

anyway, forget you, Melissa Argard, vote for Dana Pelabon,

because that's how we're rolling for our local goodwill,

goodwill is running for in some first assembly vote for that

black man. He's a really good dude. He's out here doing

positive things. And I don't know anybody else on the ballot,

I don't think so. But listen, look up people. Okay, and we'll be

back in a minute. You're tuned into the black conversion show

with your girl Brandi Grayson or 92 FM with my cousin.

Oh, it's so soft coming in. I feel like taking a nap. Okay.

I thought that was the song she was doing. You're the city tonight

with 2.7 FM, the black conversion show with your girl Brandi

Grayson and my cousin. Look at us over here, sleep life. Look,

say yeah, let's comment down. So prior to break, we were talking

about local elections. So get out and vote August 13th for

the primaries. As Luke identified, this is a democratic

leaning ballot really. So whoever you vote for, it's

super important. Well, if you're listening in Dink County,

this is it's very similar though. There's a lot of Republican

areas around the state to the farmers. You got contested

Republican primaries there where those those candidates will

likely go on to win. Yeah, so vote black trust black women and

vote no to the referendum. That's my conclusion on that. Let's

move on to the rep the Olympics. So anyway, I don't know if

you guys have been watching the US in the in Paris. We've been

killing the game. We have. And I was just saying is the first,

you know, you know, people known as black, you know, we

question our commitment to America a lot of times seeing that

a lot of things are built on the back of black people along

with racism. OK. So often I'm like, I'm moving to a different

country. I'm about to find get a new dual citizenship until

the Olympics. And when the Olympics happen, I'm over here

ran a American flag. I'm watching the Olympics. I'm about US

USA. I love my freedom. And can we talk about how many black

people are in the Olympics and how many of us have one gold

metal silver metals broken world records. I mean, we're in

every category, any categories that we thought black people

would never be in like what you say Clyde Fencing. Fencing, we

are breaking some records, some world record black people

are missing. Our sister over there, one second, I am getting

her name. Her name is Lauren. Lauren. She is, she has one gold

in silver or just gold. I don't know if it's in gold and silver.

But we won gold and silver. It was it was a US match in the gold

metal match. And so it was two fences in the foil round for

because there's three different types of swords that you

fence with different types. And in the foil, it was US versus

US. And so we won both the gold and the silver metal in the

individual women. And then because those two are so good, they

also won the team for women's foil. And that was the first

every time that the women's team fencing for foil won a gold

metal foil. I don't even know what none of that are good

to grow some on bios and gymnastics. She killing a game. She

better. Yep. Y'all mad at her. Then we got Jordan, who also

won in gymnastics. I think Jordan was the one in the middle of

the stand where all of the contestants are. Oh yeah, they're all

black women. Folk black, trust black, love black women.

Folk black, trust black, love black women. I love that.

Love black, trust black, love black, love black. Black Black

I learned that we have no allials winning track and field T1 gold

for track and field. So we just the fastest on earth. That's

the thing about people known as black, too. It's like we, you

know, grown up in the hood, we always hear things like you

don't black people don't swim, black people don't golf, black

people don't do hockey, black people, there's black people

that. And the funny part is is that over the last 20 years,

black people have entered all these sport arenas. And we are

Ming is one and we want silver and swimming. So just a reminder

to my people known as black that you are magnificent, you can

accomplish any and everything. And don't let the social

constructs of this world limit your ability to see your

greatness. Okay, as I worked in arts just saying that I see a

lot of youth getting in gymnastics. Oh, yes. And at the

Olympics, a guy by the name of Frederick Richard one bronze

in gymnastics, who is a black man. So yeah, that representation

is so important. As we see black, you're getting into

gymnastics. Oh, and just as a plug, my grandbaby, Nala, who's

in the, yeah, I can't see her. You can't see her, but we she

on the media release, right? She's at a radio station. She

does gymnastics. And she loves to flip and all kind of stuff.

And she's so desperate. Wait, okay, we say the word suit tap

waves spectacular. Yes, yeah, I was mixing super inspect

whatever it's almost 10 years ago, you would not have ran in

Madison, you would not have run into a black youth gymnastics

10 years ago. Yeah, you right. We didn't have the access privilege

or resources. Yeah, so that's so important. I think we're also

winning in rugby, Naya, taper, Ariana Ramsey. Yeah, we

want bronze. Okay, the conclusion for Olympics is that black

people are winning. We are. And we are representing US like we

always do in ways that you can't even comprehend because we

the stuff. And then we had our basketball game yesterday in the

Olympics and we killed it. They came back. They come back.

They won. Yeah, they we won. They were losing in the fourth

quarter down by 13. And they came back. I think it's important.

There's several black women leading the US women's soccer team.

They're gonna be playing in the gold medal match this weekend.

The women's basketball, I believe, is still in contention for gold.

Blacked out, blacked out, blacked out, blacked out. And then you got

your boy, Yoke, what's his name?

Nikolai Yoke. No, Nikolai Yoke. He's playing. Look, he over there

playing for his country. What's his country? Serbia. That's where they

beat. Right. And he tried to beat us and come over. I think that's

doing a pretty good job. I'm sure he was. I'm sure he wasn't.

That's why I should be illegal for you to play an NBA and then go

back to your country to fight against us. Don't play what I don't

matter because the US have won so far, 2655 medals in the history

of summer Olympics. Okay. Cause we ain't going to

know what's in it. It's just black earned. Okay. We're going to learn.

We're going to look into that. What's gold? And 1,070 of those

medals are gold. Okay. USA. USA. USA. So good job. USA. Like, we're so

proud of you over here. Because we're so proud of you. I was

thinking when I was watching this, I'm like, now I've Russian trying to

want to go to world. Hope they looking at the Olympics and

realize we've got pretty strong people on play. That's why we need

as a president of the United States of America. Okay. Because if they

won't be, you get you put a black person in lead. And Angon won't no

mom. Okay. Amen. Angon won no mom. Okay. Anyway, you're listening to

the black conversion show on 92.75 WMDX with your girl, Brandy Grayson

and cousin, cousin Clyde. All right. Quickly, I want to tell y'all

about some local events. Our harvest fest is coming up September

No, September 7th. Oh my god. It's on a Saturday from 3 to 8 at the

Farley Center, which is where our farm is located. Everything's

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free wine, free beer. We will have shuttle service from our park

street location to Verona because we don't want y'all drinking

and driving. Okay. Free shuttle service. So check out our

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We do need donations money. We have no sponsors. I think we have

one sponsor and that's UW. And people I was on Facebook the other day and

someone says you get all the corporate sponsors y'all. We don't get

sponsors. People don't even mess with us. I can't even keep a director of

development who's in charge of getting sponsors because

they'd be white and other and can't stand my black self. Okay. But at this

harvest fest, you should be coming in Cowboy. Yes. We're going to have so much fun.

Cowboy. Cowgirl. Have free food, juguilers,

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